NASDAQ:DHC Diversified Healthcare Trust Q3 2024 Earnings Report $3.26 +0.04 (+1.24%) Closing price 05/29/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$3.40 +0.14 (+4.14%) As of 05/29/2025 07:51 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Diversified Healthcare Trust EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.41Consensus EPS $0.05Beat/MissMissed by -$0.46One Year Ago EPS$0.03Diversified Healthcare Trust Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$373.64 millionExpected Revenue$376.80 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.16 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADiversified Healthcare Trust Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/4/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, November 5, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsDiversified Healthcare Trust's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, August 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, August 1, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Diversified Healthcare Trust Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 5, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Diversified Healthcare Trust Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Melissa McCarthy, Manager of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, Drew. Good morning. Joining me on today's call are Chris Bellotto, President and Chief Executive Officer and Matt Brown, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Today's call includes a presentation by management followed by a question and answer session with sell side analysts. Please note that the recording retransmission of today's conference call is strictly prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Speaker 100:01:09Today's conference call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward looking statements are based upon DHC's beliefs and expectations as of today, Tuesday, November 5, 2024. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to the forward looking statements made in today's conference call other than through filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC. In addition, this call may contain non GAAP numbers, including normalized funds from operations or normalized FFO, net operating income or NOI and cash basis net operating income or cash basis NOI. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to net income is available in our financial results package, which can be found in our website at www.bhcbreit.com. Speaker 100:02:13Actual results may differ materially from those projected in any forward looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause those differences is contained in our filings with the SEC. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward looking statements. And finally, we will be providing guidance on this call, including SHOP net operating income or SHOP NOI. We are not providing a reconciliation of these non GAAP measures as part of our guidance because certain information required for such reconciliation is not available without unreasonable efforts or at all such as gains and losses or impairment charges related to the disposition of real estate. Speaker 100:02:59With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Chris. Speaker 200:03:03Thank you, Melissa. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. On today's call, I will provide a high level overview of DAC's Q3 financial and operating results, along with an update on key strategic initiatives for the remainder of 2024 and then next year. Later, Matt will provide more detail on our Q3 financial results and an update on our full year guidance. DHC delivered mixed financial results in the Q3, primarily attributed to our SHOP segment, including a sequential 40 basis point improvement in same store occupancy and moderate revenue growth, which was offset by cost increases resulting from higher seasonal expenses, salaries and wages and certain one time items. Speaker 200:03:50Compared to the prior year, our consolidated SHOP NOI increased 32.6%, supported by operational improvements and a favorable market trends in our senior housing portfolio. Turning to our medical office and life science portfolio performance. During the quarter, we completed 83,000 square feet of new and renewal leasing activity with a rent roll up of 4.8% and a weighted average lease term of 7.4 years. Same store occupancy decreased by 150 basis points to 87.8 percent largely due to the previously communicated known vacate of a building in Raleigh Durham, North Carolina, reflecting 126,000 square feet. As we look ahead, roughly 9% of our annualized revenue is scheduled to expire through year end 2025. Speaker 200:04:39Our largest known vacate during this period is with a tenant whose expiration is in the Q1 of 2025 and located in St. Louis, Missouri, occupying close to 233,000 square feet or 2.2 percent of annualized revenue. We have various initiatives underway to address vacancies and leasing of our properties, which includes select dispositions along with active asset management. Complementing our retention and absorption outlook, we maintain an active leasing pipeline with close to 400,000 square feet of activity, including potential absorption of 117,000 square feet and an overall double digit rent roll up. Turning to our shop performance. Speaker 200:05:20While we are pleased with our year over year revenue and NOI growth of 6.4% and 32.6%, respectively, quarterly progress remains subdued in part due to slower occupancy growth and varying expense impacts that fluctuate quarter to quarter. RevPOR increased by 80 basis points sequentially, primarily driven by growth within IL, skilled nursing and levels of care, along with an overall decline in move in incentives. Expense for increased 140 basis points largely due to an increase in salaries and wages, seasonal utilities and certain one time items. These costs along with muted shop occupancy growth resulted in NOI of $27,400,000 for the quarter, representing a 32% 32.6% increase over Q3 of last year, but it declined sequentially. We remain committed to our portfolio transition strategy and the initial progress we are making reinforces our belief that we are taking the right steps to drive sustainable long term growth. Speaker 200:06:23That said, we recognize that this process will require additional time to unfold and as a result, we are lowering our guidance range for the year. We are conducting a top to bottom analysis of our portfolio considering various factors such as performance metric benchmarks, densification of communities, synergy opportunities and operator relationships in key markets, a process which will include the expansion of certain key initiatives over the next several quarters. The goal of this work is to ensure that our strategy and the broader market the strategy in the broader market evolves, our portfolio continues to comprise the right assets that will position DHC to benefit from embedded NOI upside. As part of this process, we transitioned 13 communities earlier this year and have over 20 renovations scheduled for completion in Q4 2024. Further, we are expanding our disposition program to include a total of 32 shop communities comprised of 2,422 units, including 3 under agreement or LOI to sell and 29 communities in various stages of marketing. Speaker 200:07:31Collectively for the quarter, these communities generated negative NOIs of $2,000,000 with occupancy of 75.2 percent and we are assuming a valuation range from $55,000 to $65,000 per unit. The decreased range of per unit value from our prior call is due to the additional community selected for sale, which includes smaller unit counts, negative NOI and that are generally located in more tertiary markets. Removing these properties from our portfolio will also enable us to focus our strategic CapEx into our highest ROI communities, creating positive earnings momentum for our remaining portfolio. In fact, removing the 32 SHOP assets that we are in the process of selling would improve our 3rd quarter NOI margin by 170 basis points and occupancy by 50 basis points. Outside of SHOP, DAC is currently under agreements with letters of intent to sell 25 properties for gross proceeds of $333,000,000 This includes our previously announced agreement to sell 18 triple net leased senior living communities, which is currently scheduled to close in the Q4 of 2024. Speaker 200:08:42This opportunistic sale monetizes this portfolio and highlights our ability to achieve premium valuations, reflected by a valuation of more than $150,000 per unit and an attractive in place cap rate of 7.3%. Proceeds generated from the sale and certain of our other properties, including our Life Science campus in San Diego, California will allow us to reduce our leverage as we accretively pay down our 0 coupon senior secured notes due in 2026 with up to $300,000,000 of potential proceeds from the sale of these collateral properties. We also wanted to provide an update in our refinancing strategy to address $440,000,000 of maturities we have due in June 2025. We are actively engaged with GSE agencies to refinance this debt. However, given the size of the financing and a more thorough understanding of the overall execution and timeline with the agencies, we have broadened our strategy to include financing of smaller tranches, tapping diversified financing sources from institutional real estate lenders along with the agencies. Speaker 200:09:48I will let Matt provide more details. However, the key takeaway is that we believe this change will provide for a more favorable financing outcome. Despite our mix performance results for the quarter, we remain focused on advancing initiatives to increase occupancy and improve community performance in support of our shop turnaround. As highlighted earlier, our top to bottom evaluation of the portfolio, including certain initiatives undertaken by our operators, are key pillars that will position DAC to benefit from embedded NOI upside. Now I'd like to turn the call over Speaker 300:10:23to Matt. Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Normalized FFO for the Q3 was $4,000,000 or $0.02 per share. Our same property cash basis NOI was $65,800,000 representing a 16.1% improvement year over year and a 1.5% decline sequentially. The sequential decline was mainly caused by our Medical Office and Life Science segment that saw same property occupancy drop 150 basis points to 87.8%. Speaker 300:10:53SHOP highlights for our same property portfolio include a 5.4% increase in average monthly rate year over year, occupancy growth of 130 basis points year over year and 40 basis points sequentially and margin expansion of 240 basis points year over year. These factors combined to deliver the 6.4% year over year revenue growth Chris touched on earlier. Despite this strong progress on the top line, we experienced certain expense increases negatively impacting results that totaled $2,500,000 and included an insurance deductible related to a fire at a community and water intrusion remediation that we did not factor into our quarterly SHOP guidance. On a positive note on expense management, we successfully renewed our annual insurance program effective July 1, resulting in a $6,800,000 or 26 percent reduction in our premiums, a benefit we anticipate to realize in the upcoming quarters. Lastly, as it relates to this quarter's earnings, G and A expense includes a 6 $900,000 estimated business management incentive fee. Speaker 300:12:00Excluding estimated incentive fees, G and A expense would have been $7,000,000 in line with Q2 results. We do not include incentive fee expense in normalized FFO or adjusted EBITDAre until the Q4 when the final incentive fee amount is determined, if any. The incentive fee accrual may increase or decrease over the remainder of the year depending on how DHC performs relative to the index. Turning to liquidity financing activities and CapEx. We ended the quarter with over $256,000,000 of cash. Speaker 300:12:32As discussed on prior earnings calls, our financing strategy to address the remaining $440,000,000 of unsecured senior notes maturing in June of 2025 was to do a large single issuance of agency financing on certain SHOP communities. As we have progressed through this process, we have realized that the pace of agency financing is slower than anticipated and the limited new financings the agencies have closed this year are at smaller scale either single property or smaller pool financings. As a result of this, we have quickly pivoted to engage with multiple lenders and based on dialogue to date, we expect the terms to be in line with those the agencies are willing to provide. This expanded outreach, which given the current environment, best positions the HC to accretively address our 2025 maturity as soon as possible with the most competitive terms available. To date, we have received a formal quote with 1 government agency for approximately $106,000,000 in loan proceeds and are in active negotiations with 2 other lenders to finance certain of the initial targeted communities. Speaker 300:13:39If our financing strategy does not produce our target proceeds to repay our June 2025 bonds, we can use a portion of our $256,000,000 cash position and proceeds from property dispositions that are in various stages. We are currently under agreements or letters of intent to sell 28 properties for an aggregate estimated gross sales price of $348,000,000 and have other properties in various stages of marketing. Approximately $300,000,000 of these proceeds relate to properties that secure our 0 coupon bond and as a result are required to be used to partially redeem our $940,000,000 senior secured notes due in January 2026, highlighting significant progress towards the refinancing of this bond. During the quarter, we invested over $50,000,000 of capital, including nearly $40,000,000 into our SHOP communities. We also advanced 23 refresh projects in the quarter by investing $6,400,000 and expect these projects to be completed by year end. Speaker 300:14:43Regarding our full year guidance, our CapEx guidance for the full year 2024 is reduced to $180,000,000 to $190,000,000 with $118,000,000 spent through September 30. Our full year CapEx guidance includes shop CapEx of $130,000,000 to $140,000,000 Based on our Q3 SHOP results falling short of guidance, we are lowering our full year SHOP NOI guidance to $102,000,000 to $107,000,000 This revised guidance takes into account additional insurance and remediation costs from the recent hurricanes negatively impacting Q4 results and a new target occupancy slightly below 80% at year end as a result of our Q3 and peak selling season not yielding the occupancy lift we expected. As we communicated in February, our full year SHOP NOI guidance assumed occupancy rates increasing by approximately 400 basis points and that our NOI growth would ramp up in the second half of twenty twenty four. Certain communities have negatively impacted our initial guidance targets and as Chris noted, we are advancing our disposition program by targeting communities that are weighing down improved results in line with our initial forecast. In summary, we are continuing to make progress on our SHOP turnaround despite bottom line results that were below our expectations. Speaker 300:16:04As we look ahead, we remain bullish on the senior living industry given the tailwinds supporting it. We will continue to leverage the strength of our portfolio and opportunistically pursue property dispositions, transitions and refinancing strategies to fuel NOI growth and value creation for all of our stakeholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 200:16:24Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:16:27We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:03Thank you. Good morning. Quite a lot to unpack there. Maybe starting with the GSE Agency debt issuances. Can you give us a little more color? Speaker 400:17:15I think you said that you're in the market on 1 $106,000,000 I think I might have that right of proceeds with the agencies. How many property? How much more do you think you go down with the road with agency debt versus other lenders? And maybe you can also share with us what kind of terms we're looking at here? Speaker 300:17:37Hey, Brian, good morning. Yes, you're right. It was about $106,000,000 in proceeds. We're at the phase of a formal quote receipt that we're currently negotiating based off the terms that were put in that. That is a financing on 8 of our communities. Speaker 300:17:56And we are also looking at another government agency to do a financing on a handful of communities or so as well as expanding our pool of lenders to achieve the maximum proceeds available. So that's where we are currently. As it relates to terms, because we're still in a negotiation phase, I don't want to go into too much detail, but a lot of the Speaker 200:18:20terms are similar to what Speaker 300:18:21we've talked about previously including a loan to value somewhere around 60% as well as for interest rates still in that 6% to 6.5% range. Speaker 400:18:34Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And you're sitting on a lot of cash, dollars 250 ish million, dollars 100,000,000 coming in here, dollars 50,000,000 that you can bring in from other asset sales aside from the three zero $2,000,000 or so that's going over to the 0. So you're kind of in the $400,000,000 zip code, you need $440,000,000 Is there a thought process given the cash that you have and the cash that's coming in near term to start chipping away at buying in some of those 9.75s? Speaker 400:19:04Or are you going to wait till you have the whole bucket and do it all at once? Speaker 300:19:10Yes, Brian, we're advancing our financing strategy here. So we're 1st focused on bringing in proceeds there. But you're right, we have adequate cash and likely we'll start chipping away at that. Speaker 400:19:28Okay. I think the big frustration here today and with the stock in particular is the SHOP NOI slowness of recovery. I mean, we all agree that there is recovery, but I think that there's some disappointment. Can you drill down a little bit further on why the costs have persisted to increase so much that it's an environment where we're generally hearing that costs are becoming not quite the headwind that they had over the past couple of years? Speaker 300:20:05Yes, Brian, I think a real impact of the cost increase this quarter was really driven by certain kind of non recurring expenses that I highlighted in the prepared remarks, totaling about $2,500,000 mainly due to a fire we had at a community, resulting in an insurance deductible as well as certain remediation costs from damage from the hurricanes that occurred in Q3. Beyond that, I would say our costs have really moderated and we were negatively impacted by that. I will also add in Q3 of every year, we generally see an increase in utilities as a result of seasonal cooling and that will kind of moderate, come down slightly in Q4 for that. Speaker 200:20:48Yes. And I would add, Brian, the slowness here is in the top line. I mean, as Matt mentioned, we do have certain costs that are unexpected and that can kind of ebb and flow between quarter as we understand that. But really, I think kind of not getting to the overall net move ins and the occupancy is probably a larger factor impacting some of these results. So that's really kind of what we're focused on. Speaker 200:21:19And I think it's important as we highlighted that we recognize in some cases, it's just kind of overall operational things that we need to work through, which I think we have a good pulse on. We have a larger presence in some of these markets where there has been kind of impacted weather events, which just slows the process outside of any occupancy impact with sales and marketing and other things. But I think equally important is kind of our view on how we're getting in front of some of the known cash drags with the expansion of dispositions and certain transitions, which is just a process that is going to take a little bit more time to unfold. Speaker 400:21:58Okay. Maybe just 2 more for me and I'll hop back in the queue. When you talked about the hurricanes, I guess, Milton and Helene, Was there any properties closed during those storms and any material damage that's noteworthy to discuss? Speaker 200:22:16We had one property specifically that was more broadly impacting hitting our insurance deductible where it required kind of the temporary relocation of residents with respect to the hurricane. And then certainly a handful of properties that require dislocation temporarily just until kind of the warning subsided. And then something else to note is also we did have damage at a community due to a fire event, which also required a temporary move out on a portion of that community impacting the results there. Speaker 400:22:57Okay. And last for me and I'll hop back in the queue. So look, we've got the Brookdale properties being sold at over 150,000 in Key. You've got some other properties in the shop community segment that are I think you talked about 55,000, 65,000 a key. You have a ton of keys, right? Speaker 400:23:15You've got whatever 25,000 units. And I think that the big question that not only I have, but I think a lot on the buy side is what are these things worth? Can you share what you think if you had to liquidate the SHOP portfolio today, the whole portfolio would go for? Is it $100,000 $110,000 I can you give us any color there? Because I think that that's kind of the big bogey that everybody is making their investment decisions on at the moment. Speaker 200:23:45Yes. Look, I mean, it's we want to be sensitive to where we are in the overall turnaround of the portfolio. And so I think where value could be today isn't necessarily indicative of where we're going. What I would guide is, let's look at some of the transactions we're talking about, right, for kind of smaller tertiary communities that are stabilized, looking at the Brookdale event, you're talking about $150,000 per unit. If you kind of step back and look at more challenged assets and also in tertiary markets of similar size with NOI drag, you're looking at $50,000 to $60,000 per unit. Speaker 200:24:28And so that's kind of in my view on some of the smaller side. And then obviously on the other side of the equation where we have kind of those better communities, the 100 unit plus and more primary and secondary markets, we think that there's outsized potential value with those specific communities. And so I think what we're hopeful as we continue to work through this portfolio and communicate more on these updates, you're going to see kind of more natural progression towards value as we talk about certain financing events where we're getting valuations on those assets in addition to select sales, whether they be opportunities to kind of monetize value or just kind of cut short on areas we don't see that there's value. And that's really, I think, the best way to kind of tease out valuation as some of these transactions mature. Speaker 500:25:21Okay. Thank you. Operator00:25:30The next question comes from Justin Hasbik with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:37Yes, thanks for taking the question. Just doing the math on the total SHOP guidance you guys just gave, it implies that the SHOP NOI, total SHOP NOI is going to drop to roughly $24,000,000 in 4Q. Is that correct? And then can you just provide some color if it is correct on why we're going to see that drop? And then also just on some more color on occupancy. Speaker 500:26:03Can you provide why occupancy didn't meet your guys' expectation in the quarter? Speaker 300:26:14Sure. So on Q4 NOI, your estimate is within our guidance range. We are expecting that Q4 results are going to be negatively impacted by the October hurricane that came through and impacted certain communities. We're expecting approximately $4,000,000 of costs related to that with remediation and insurance premiums or insurance deductibles. And as it relates to occupancy, we ended September 30 at 79.4% and we're currently expecting to end the year just shy of 80% as we go into generally a little bit of a softer selling season. Speaker 500:26:59Okay. And then on the 29 communities with negative $2,000,000 of NOI, what is the total value of those communities? Timeline should we expect for closing on those? Speaker 200:27:15Yes. I mean, we provided kind of the range of $55,000 to $65,000 per unit. So let's just call it and this includes the $29,000,000 plus the 3 that are more advanced. And so that's kind of on the low end, dollars 135,000,000 on the high end, just above 155,000,000 dollars I think kind of holistically, we wouldn't expect that any of these transactions would be completed prior to year end. So the more advanced stuff would be kind of in the earlier part of the quarter of Q1 and then the stuff that's hitting Speaker 500:27:50the market now likely thereafter. Speaker 200:27:51Okay. And then market now likely thereafter. Speaker 500:27:58Okay. And then on the wellness center NOI, just is there a reason why NOI ticked up roughly around 700,000? Speaker 300:28:12Yes. We had a couple of wellness centers that were previously leased by one tenant that we transitioned to be leased by Lifetime and one of those leases commenced during the year resulting in that NOI increase. Speaker 500:28:27Okay. And then the last one for me. Just on the Muse, where are you guys at on the marketing process? And then is occupancy still around 50%? Speaker 200:28:38Yes. Occupancy is just below 50%. We've kind of commenced the marketing process. We're in advanced stages of working through that transaction. We may be in a position to potentially close on that in 2024. Speaker 500:28:59Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:29:03This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Chris Bellotto, President and Chief Executive Officer for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:29:15Thank you for joining our call today and we look forward to speaking with many of you at the upcoming Navy convention. Operator00:29:28The conference has concluded. You may now disconnect your line. Thank you for attending today's presentation.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Mixed Q3 SHOP segment results: same-store NOI rose 32.6% year-over-year but declined sequentially as expenses increased by 140bps, prompting a cut to full-year SHOP NOI guidance to $102–107 million. Expanded disposition program for 32 underperforming SHOP communities (2,422 units; negative $2 million NOI) at $55–65K/unit, expected to boost SHOP NOI margin by 170bps and occupancy by 50bps, alongside LOIs for 25 other non-SHOP properties totaling $333 million. Medical Office & Life Science leasing activity of 83K sq ft with a 4.8% rent roll-up and 7.4-year weighted lease term; same-store occupancy down 150bps to 87.8%, but a 400K sq ft active pipeline supports renewals and expansions. Broadened refinancing strategy to address $440 million of June 2025 maturities: secured a <$106 million> agency loan on eight communities (~60% LTV, 6–6.5% rate), engaging multiple lenders, and plans to use ~$256 million cash plus sale proceeds. 2024 capital expenditure guidance reduced to $180–190 million (SHOP $130–140 million), factoring in higher seasonal utilities and hurricane/insurance expenses; year-end SHOP occupancy targeted just below 80%. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallDiversified Healthcare Trust Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Diversified Healthcare Trust Earnings HeadlinesU.S. REIT Same-Store Net Operating Income Growth Slips In Q1May 29 at 7:48 AM | seekingalpha.comQ1 Earnings Estimate for DHC Issued By B. 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Email Address About Diversified Healthcare TrustDiversified Healthcare Trust (NASDAQ:DHC) is a real estate investment trust, which engages in the ownership of senior living communities, medical office buildings, and wellness centers. It operates through the following segments: Office Portfolio, Senior Housing Operating Portfolio (SHOP), and Non-Segment. The Office Portfolio segment consists of medical office properties leased to medical providers and other medical related businesses, as well as life science properties leased to biotech laboratories and other similar tenants. The SHOP segment manages senior living communities that offers short term and long term residential care, and other services for residents where it pay fees to the operator to manage the communities for its account. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Diversified Healthcare Trust Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Melissa McCarthy, Manager of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, Drew. Good morning. Joining me on today's call are Chris Bellotto, President and Chief Executive Officer and Matt Brown, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Today's call includes a presentation by management followed by a question and answer session with sell side analysts. Please note that the recording retransmission of today's conference call is strictly prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Speaker 100:01:09Today's conference call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward looking statements are based upon DHC's beliefs and expectations as of today, Tuesday, November 5, 2024. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to the forward looking statements made in today's conference call other than through filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC. In addition, this call may contain non GAAP numbers, including normalized funds from operations or normalized FFO, net operating income or NOI and cash basis net operating income or cash basis NOI. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to net income is available in our financial results package, which can be found in our website at www.bhcbreit.com. Speaker 100:02:13Actual results may differ materially from those projected in any forward looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause those differences is contained in our filings with the SEC. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward looking statements. And finally, we will be providing guidance on this call, including SHOP net operating income or SHOP NOI. We are not providing a reconciliation of these non GAAP measures as part of our guidance because certain information required for such reconciliation is not available without unreasonable efforts or at all such as gains and losses or impairment charges related to the disposition of real estate. Speaker 100:02:59With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Chris. Speaker 200:03:03Thank you, Melissa. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. On today's call, I will provide a high level overview of DAC's Q3 financial and operating results, along with an update on key strategic initiatives for the remainder of 2024 and then next year. Later, Matt will provide more detail on our Q3 financial results and an update on our full year guidance. DHC delivered mixed financial results in the Q3, primarily attributed to our SHOP segment, including a sequential 40 basis point improvement in same store occupancy and moderate revenue growth, which was offset by cost increases resulting from higher seasonal expenses, salaries and wages and certain one time items. Speaker 200:03:50Compared to the prior year, our consolidated SHOP NOI increased 32.6%, supported by operational improvements and a favorable market trends in our senior housing portfolio. Turning to our medical office and life science portfolio performance. During the quarter, we completed 83,000 square feet of new and renewal leasing activity with a rent roll up of 4.8% and a weighted average lease term of 7.4 years. Same store occupancy decreased by 150 basis points to 87.8 percent largely due to the previously communicated known vacate of a building in Raleigh Durham, North Carolina, reflecting 126,000 square feet. As we look ahead, roughly 9% of our annualized revenue is scheduled to expire through year end 2025. Speaker 200:04:39Our largest known vacate during this period is with a tenant whose expiration is in the Q1 of 2025 and located in St. Louis, Missouri, occupying close to 233,000 square feet or 2.2 percent of annualized revenue. We have various initiatives underway to address vacancies and leasing of our properties, which includes select dispositions along with active asset management. Complementing our retention and absorption outlook, we maintain an active leasing pipeline with close to 400,000 square feet of activity, including potential absorption of 117,000 square feet and an overall double digit rent roll up. Turning to our shop performance. Speaker 200:05:20While we are pleased with our year over year revenue and NOI growth of 6.4% and 32.6%, respectively, quarterly progress remains subdued in part due to slower occupancy growth and varying expense impacts that fluctuate quarter to quarter. RevPOR increased by 80 basis points sequentially, primarily driven by growth within IL, skilled nursing and levels of care, along with an overall decline in move in incentives. Expense for increased 140 basis points largely due to an increase in salaries and wages, seasonal utilities and certain one time items. These costs along with muted shop occupancy growth resulted in NOI of $27,400,000 for the quarter, representing a 32% 32.6% increase over Q3 of last year, but it declined sequentially. We remain committed to our portfolio transition strategy and the initial progress we are making reinforces our belief that we are taking the right steps to drive sustainable long term growth. Speaker 200:06:23That said, we recognize that this process will require additional time to unfold and as a result, we are lowering our guidance range for the year. We are conducting a top to bottom analysis of our portfolio considering various factors such as performance metric benchmarks, densification of communities, synergy opportunities and operator relationships in key markets, a process which will include the expansion of certain key initiatives over the next several quarters. The goal of this work is to ensure that our strategy and the broader market the strategy in the broader market evolves, our portfolio continues to comprise the right assets that will position DHC to benefit from embedded NOI upside. As part of this process, we transitioned 13 communities earlier this year and have over 20 renovations scheduled for completion in Q4 2024. Further, we are expanding our disposition program to include a total of 32 shop communities comprised of 2,422 units, including 3 under agreement or LOI to sell and 29 communities in various stages of marketing. Speaker 200:07:31Collectively for the quarter, these communities generated negative NOIs of $2,000,000 with occupancy of 75.2 percent and we are assuming a valuation range from $55,000 to $65,000 per unit. The decreased range of per unit value from our prior call is due to the additional community selected for sale, which includes smaller unit counts, negative NOI and that are generally located in more tertiary markets. Removing these properties from our portfolio will also enable us to focus our strategic CapEx into our highest ROI communities, creating positive earnings momentum for our remaining portfolio. In fact, removing the 32 SHOP assets that we are in the process of selling would improve our 3rd quarter NOI margin by 170 basis points and occupancy by 50 basis points. Outside of SHOP, DAC is currently under agreements with letters of intent to sell 25 properties for gross proceeds of $333,000,000 This includes our previously announced agreement to sell 18 triple net leased senior living communities, which is currently scheduled to close in the Q4 of 2024. Speaker 200:08:42This opportunistic sale monetizes this portfolio and highlights our ability to achieve premium valuations, reflected by a valuation of more than $150,000 per unit and an attractive in place cap rate of 7.3%. Proceeds generated from the sale and certain of our other properties, including our Life Science campus in San Diego, California will allow us to reduce our leverage as we accretively pay down our 0 coupon senior secured notes due in 2026 with up to $300,000,000 of potential proceeds from the sale of these collateral properties. We also wanted to provide an update in our refinancing strategy to address $440,000,000 of maturities we have due in June 2025. We are actively engaged with GSE agencies to refinance this debt. However, given the size of the financing and a more thorough understanding of the overall execution and timeline with the agencies, we have broadened our strategy to include financing of smaller tranches, tapping diversified financing sources from institutional real estate lenders along with the agencies. Speaker 200:09:48I will let Matt provide more details. However, the key takeaway is that we believe this change will provide for a more favorable financing outcome. Despite our mix performance results for the quarter, we remain focused on advancing initiatives to increase occupancy and improve community performance in support of our shop turnaround. As highlighted earlier, our top to bottom evaluation of the portfolio, including certain initiatives undertaken by our operators, are key pillars that will position DAC to benefit from embedded NOI upside. Now I'd like to turn the call over Speaker 300:10:23to Matt. Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Normalized FFO for the Q3 was $4,000,000 or $0.02 per share. Our same property cash basis NOI was $65,800,000 representing a 16.1% improvement year over year and a 1.5% decline sequentially. The sequential decline was mainly caused by our Medical Office and Life Science segment that saw same property occupancy drop 150 basis points to 87.8%. Speaker 300:10:53SHOP highlights for our same property portfolio include a 5.4% increase in average monthly rate year over year, occupancy growth of 130 basis points year over year and 40 basis points sequentially and margin expansion of 240 basis points year over year. These factors combined to deliver the 6.4% year over year revenue growth Chris touched on earlier. Despite this strong progress on the top line, we experienced certain expense increases negatively impacting results that totaled $2,500,000 and included an insurance deductible related to a fire at a community and water intrusion remediation that we did not factor into our quarterly SHOP guidance. On a positive note on expense management, we successfully renewed our annual insurance program effective July 1, resulting in a $6,800,000 or 26 percent reduction in our premiums, a benefit we anticipate to realize in the upcoming quarters. Lastly, as it relates to this quarter's earnings, G and A expense includes a 6 $900,000 estimated business management incentive fee. Speaker 300:12:00Excluding estimated incentive fees, G and A expense would have been $7,000,000 in line with Q2 results. We do not include incentive fee expense in normalized FFO or adjusted EBITDAre until the Q4 when the final incentive fee amount is determined, if any. The incentive fee accrual may increase or decrease over the remainder of the year depending on how DHC performs relative to the index. Turning to liquidity financing activities and CapEx. We ended the quarter with over $256,000,000 of cash. Speaker 300:12:32As discussed on prior earnings calls, our financing strategy to address the remaining $440,000,000 of unsecured senior notes maturing in June of 2025 was to do a large single issuance of agency financing on certain SHOP communities. As we have progressed through this process, we have realized that the pace of agency financing is slower than anticipated and the limited new financings the agencies have closed this year are at smaller scale either single property or smaller pool financings. As a result of this, we have quickly pivoted to engage with multiple lenders and based on dialogue to date, we expect the terms to be in line with those the agencies are willing to provide. This expanded outreach, which given the current environment, best positions the HC to accretively address our 2025 maturity as soon as possible with the most competitive terms available. To date, we have received a formal quote with 1 government agency for approximately $106,000,000 in loan proceeds and are in active negotiations with 2 other lenders to finance certain of the initial targeted communities. Speaker 300:13:39If our financing strategy does not produce our target proceeds to repay our June 2025 bonds, we can use a portion of our $256,000,000 cash position and proceeds from property dispositions that are in various stages. We are currently under agreements or letters of intent to sell 28 properties for an aggregate estimated gross sales price of $348,000,000 and have other properties in various stages of marketing. Approximately $300,000,000 of these proceeds relate to properties that secure our 0 coupon bond and as a result are required to be used to partially redeem our $940,000,000 senior secured notes due in January 2026, highlighting significant progress towards the refinancing of this bond. During the quarter, we invested over $50,000,000 of capital, including nearly $40,000,000 into our SHOP communities. We also advanced 23 refresh projects in the quarter by investing $6,400,000 and expect these projects to be completed by year end. Speaker 300:14:43Regarding our full year guidance, our CapEx guidance for the full year 2024 is reduced to $180,000,000 to $190,000,000 with $118,000,000 spent through September 30. Our full year CapEx guidance includes shop CapEx of $130,000,000 to $140,000,000 Based on our Q3 SHOP results falling short of guidance, we are lowering our full year SHOP NOI guidance to $102,000,000 to $107,000,000 This revised guidance takes into account additional insurance and remediation costs from the recent hurricanes negatively impacting Q4 results and a new target occupancy slightly below 80% at year end as a result of our Q3 and peak selling season not yielding the occupancy lift we expected. As we communicated in February, our full year SHOP NOI guidance assumed occupancy rates increasing by approximately 400 basis points and that our NOI growth would ramp up in the second half of twenty twenty four. Certain communities have negatively impacted our initial guidance targets and as Chris noted, we are advancing our disposition program by targeting communities that are weighing down improved results in line with our initial forecast. In summary, we are continuing to make progress on our SHOP turnaround despite bottom line results that were below our expectations. Speaker 300:16:04As we look ahead, we remain bullish on the senior living industry given the tailwinds supporting it. We will continue to leverage the strength of our portfolio and opportunistically pursue property dispositions, transitions and refinancing strategies to fuel NOI growth and value creation for all of our stakeholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 200:16:24Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:16:27We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:03Thank you. Good morning. Quite a lot to unpack there. Maybe starting with the GSE Agency debt issuances. Can you give us a little more color? Speaker 400:17:15I think you said that you're in the market on 1 $106,000,000 I think I might have that right of proceeds with the agencies. How many property? How much more do you think you go down with the road with agency debt versus other lenders? And maybe you can also share with us what kind of terms we're looking at here? Speaker 300:17:37Hey, Brian, good morning. Yes, you're right. It was about $106,000,000 in proceeds. We're at the phase of a formal quote receipt that we're currently negotiating based off the terms that were put in that. That is a financing on 8 of our communities. Speaker 300:17:56And we are also looking at another government agency to do a financing on a handful of communities or so as well as expanding our pool of lenders to achieve the maximum proceeds available. So that's where we are currently. As it relates to terms, because we're still in a negotiation phase, I don't want to go into too much detail, but a lot of the Speaker 200:18:20terms are similar to what Speaker 300:18:21we've talked about previously including a loan to value somewhere around 60% as well as for interest rates still in that 6% to 6.5% range. Speaker 400:18:34Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And you're sitting on a lot of cash, dollars 250 ish million, dollars 100,000,000 coming in here, dollars 50,000,000 that you can bring in from other asset sales aside from the three zero $2,000,000 or so that's going over to the 0. So you're kind of in the $400,000,000 zip code, you need $440,000,000 Is there a thought process given the cash that you have and the cash that's coming in near term to start chipping away at buying in some of those 9.75s? Speaker 400:19:04Or are you going to wait till you have the whole bucket and do it all at once? Speaker 300:19:10Yes, Brian, we're advancing our financing strategy here. So we're 1st focused on bringing in proceeds there. But you're right, we have adequate cash and likely we'll start chipping away at that. Speaker 400:19:28Okay. I think the big frustration here today and with the stock in particular is the SHOP NOI slowness of recovery. I mean, we all agree that there is recovery, but I think that there's some disappointment. Can you drill down a little bit further on why the costs have persisted to increase so much that it's an environment where we're generally hearing that costs are becoming not quite the headwind that they had over the past couple of years? Speaker 300:20:05Yes, Brian, I think a real impact of the cost increase this quarter was really driven by certain kind of non recurring expenses that I highlighted in the prepared remarks, totaling about $2,500,000 mainly due to a fire we had at a community, resulting in an insurance deductible as well as certain remediation costs from damage from the hurricanes that occurred in Q3. Beyond that, I would say our costs have really moderated and we were negatively impacted by that. I will also add in Q3 of every year, we generally see an increase in utilities as a result of seasonal cooling and that will kind of moderate, come down slightly in Q4 for that. Speaker 200:20:48Yes. And I would add, Brian, the slowness here is in the top line. I mean, as Matt mentioned, we do have certain costs that are unexpected and that can kind of ebb and flow between quarter as we understand that. But really, I think kind of not getting to the overall net move ins and the occupancy is probably a larger factor impacting some of these results. So that's really kind of what we're focused on. Speaker 200:21:19And I think it's important as we highlighted that we recognize in some cases, it's just kind of overall operational things that we need to work through, which I think we have a good pulse on. We have a larger presence in some of these markets where there has been kind of impacted weather events, which just slows the process outside of any occupancy impact with sales and marketing and other things. But I think equally important is kind of our view on how we're getting in front of some of the known cash drags with the expansion of dispositions and certain transitions, which is just a process that is going to take a little bit more time to unfold. Speaker 400:21:58Okay. Maybe just 2 more for me and I'll hop back in the queue. When you talked about the hurricanes, I guess, Milton and Helene, Was there any properties closed during those storms and any material damage that's noteworthy to discuss? Speaker 200:22:16We had one property specifically that was more broadly impacting hitting our insurance deductible where it required kind of the temporary relocation of residents with respect to the hurricane. And then certainly a handful of properties that require dislocation temporarily just until kind of the warning subsided. And then something else to note is also we did have damage at a community due to a fire event, which also required a temporary move out on a portion of that community impacting the results there. Speaker 400:22:57Okay. And last for me and I'll hop back in the queue. So look, we've got the Brookdale properties being sold at over 150,000 in Key. You've got some other properties in the shop community segment that are I think you talked about 55,000, 65,000 a key. You have a ton of keys, right? Speaker 400:23:15You've got whatever 25,000 units. And I think that the big question that not only I have, but I think a lot on the buy side is what are these things worth? Can you share what you think if you had to liquidate the SHOP portfolio today, the whole portfolio would go for? Is it $100,000 $110,000 I can you give us any color there? Because I think that that's kind of the big bogey that everybody is making their investment decisions on at the moment. Speaker 200:23:45Yes. Look, I mean, it's we want to be sensitive to where we are in the overall turnaround of the portfolio. And so I think where value could be today isn't necessarily indicative of where we're going. What I would guide is, let's look at some of the transactions we're talking about, right, for kind of smaller tertiary communities that are stabilized, looking at the Brookdale event, you're talking about $150,000 per unit. If you kind of step back and look at more challenged assets and also in tertiary markets of similar size with NOI drag, you're looking at $50,000 to $60,000 per unit. Speaker 200:24:28And so that's kind of in my view on some of the smaller side. And then obviously on the other side of the equation where we have kind of those better communities, the 100 unit plus and more primary and secondary markets, we think that there's outsized potential value with those specific communities. And so I think what we're hopeful as we continue to work through this portfolio and communicate more on these updates, you're going to see kind of more natural progression towards value as we talk about certain financing events where we're getting valuations on those assets in addition to select sales, whether they be opportunities to kind of monetize value or just kind of cut short on areas we don't see that there's value. And that's really, I think, the best way to kind of tease out valuation as some of these transactions mature. Speaker 500:25:21Okay. Thank you. Operator00:25:30The next question comes from Justin Hasbik with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:37Yes, thanks for taking the question. Just doing the math on the total SHOP guidance you guys just gave, it implies that the SHOP NOI, total SHOP NOI is going to drop to roughly $24,000,000 in 4Q. Is that correct? And then can you just provide some color if it is correct on why we're going to see that drop? And then also just on some more color on occupancy. Speaker 500:26:03Can you provide why occupancy didn't meet your guys' expectation in the quarter? Speaker 300:26:14Sure. So on Q4 NOI, your estimate is within our guidance range. We are expecting that Q4 results are going to be negatively impacted by the October hurricane that came through and impacted certain communities. We're expecting approximately $4,000,000 of costs related to that with remediation and insurance premiums or insurance deductibles. And as it relates to occupancy, we ended September 30 at 79.4% and we're currently expecting to end the year just shy of 80% as we go into generally a little bit of a softer selling season. Speaker 500:26:59Okay. And then on the 29 communities with negative $2,000,000 of NOI, what is the total value of those communities? Timeline should we expect for closing on those? Speaker 200:27:15Yes. I mean, we provided kind of the range of $55,000 to $65,000 per unit. So let's just call it and this includes the $29,000,000 plus the 3 that are more advanced. And so that's kind of on the low end, dollars 135,000,000 on the high end, just above 155,000,000 dollars I think kind of holistically, we wouldn't expect that any of these transactions would be completed prior to year end. So the more advanced stuff would be kind of in the earlier part of the quarter of Q1 and then the stuff that's hitting Speaker 500:27:50the market now likely thereafter. Speaker 200:27:51Okay. And then market now likely thereafter. Speaker 500:27:58Okay. And then on the wellness center NOI, just is there a reason why NOI ticked up roughly around 700,000? Speaker 300:28:12Yes. We had a couple of wellness centers that were previously leased by one tenant that we transitioned to be leased by Lifetime and one of those leases commenced during the year resulting in that NOI increase. Speaker 500:28:27Okay. And then the last one for me. Just on the Muse, where are you guys at on the marketing process? And then is occupancy still around 50%? Speaker 200:28:38Yes. Occupancy is just below 50%. We've kind of commenced the marketing process. We're in advanced stages of working through that transaction. We may be in a position to potentially close on that in 2024. Speaker 500:28:59Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:29:03This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Chris Bellotto, President and Chief Executive Officer for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:29:15Thank you for joining our call today and we look forward to speaking with many of you at the upcoming Navy convention. 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