Finance of America Companies Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 6, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Finance of America Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Fant, Senior Vice President of Finance. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Finance of America's Q3 2024 Earnings Call. With me today are Graham Fleming, Chief Executive Officer Kristin Seifert, President and Matt Engel, Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this call is being recorded, and you can find the earnings release and presentation on our Investor Relations website at www.financeofamericacompanies.com. In addition, we will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures on this call. You can find reconciliations of non GAAP to GAAP financial measures discussed on today's call in our earnings press release and presentation on the Investor Relations page of our website to the extent available without unbreakable efforts.

Speaker 1

Also, I would like to remind everyone that comments on this conference call may be forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding the company's expected operating and financial performance for future periods. These statements are based on the company's current expectations and are subject to the Safe Harbor statement for forward looking statements that you will find in today's earnings release. Actual results for future periods may differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward looking statements due to a number of risks or other factors, including those that are described in the Risk Factors section of Finance of America's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, filed with the SEC on March 15, 2024. As such, risk factors may be amended and updated in our subsequent filings with the SEC. We are not undertaking any commitment to update these statements if conditions change.

Speaker 1

Please note that we will be discussing interim period financials for our continuing operations, which are unaudited. Now I would like to turn the call over to Finance of America's Chief Executive Officer, Graham Fleming. Graham?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Michael. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Our performance this quarter is the culmination of a number of strategic and operational initiatives we've undertaken over the last year to strengthen the business. These efforts are now paying off as we focus on continued execution of our strategic plan. Finance of America generated improved financial results with $204,000,000 in net income or $8.48 in basic earnings per share, $15,000,000 in adjusted net income or $0.67 in adjusted earnings per share and $32,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker 2

Our performance in Q3 brought our net income, adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA all positive on a year to date basis. Volume in the quarter reached $513,000,000 exceeded the high end of our guidance range of $475,000,000 to $500,000,000 This demonstrates our ability to execute on our strategic initiatives and continue delivering value to our customers. Notably during the quarter, we completed a reverse stock split and finalized the exchange offer and consent solicitation of our 2025 unsecured notes, which significantly enhances our balance sheet and financial flexibility of business. This exchange was completed on October 31st and we look forward to continuing our partnership with our note holders. Overall, we are executing and delivering on everything we set out to Our team has been focused and the results speak for themselves.

Speaker 2

Our continued momentum and improved profitability driven by strong execution across the board have positioned us for sustained growth and success. With approximately $14,000,000,000,000 of home equity held by older homeowners, we are uniquely positioned to meet the evolving financial needs of this growing demographic through our innovative home equity based retirement products. We are focusing on market segments where we see the most growth potentials, such as consumers 55 and older seeking 2nd lien mortgage loans as a way to access their home equity without refinancing away from low rate conventional mortgages. Our HomeSafe second product could be a valuable solution for this population. To discuss this opportunity and more, I'll turn it over to Christa.

Speaker 2

Christa?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Graham, and good afternoon, everyone. In the Q2, we talked about our significant progress in transforming operations through a consolidated platform and improved efficiency. We focused on the unification of the Finance of America Reverse and AAG brands under the single name of Finance of America as well as the streamlining of our workflows and adjustments to our sales processes. I'm pleased to share that our Q3 results indicate that these ROI maximization initiatives are having the intended impact. We surpassed our volume expectations and continued optimizing operations while staying dedicated to enhancing the customer experience and expanding our market presence.

Speaker 3

Our retail channel saw 38 percent productivity improvement measured by fundings per loan officer compared to the prior quarter. Additionally, October experienced our largest submission and funding month of 2024. The consolidation of our brand in July was highly successful, marking a critical milestone. Being unified under one brand sets the stage for modernizing our approach to customer experience and acquisition. Developing a digital first channel with a modern advertising strategy is vital for mainstreaming our products and enhancing production efficiency.

Speaker 3

This means building a channel to supplement our existing lines of business that prioritizes online experiences over traditional methods and leverages automated digital tools to improve efficiency and the overall ease of transacting. We believe this will result in materially lower costs of origination and an overall better customer experience. Our digital innovation strategy is designed to deliver financial services to seniors in a way that is both modern and user friendly. We launched a new HomeSafe 2nd focused digital marketing campaign at quarter end to identify strategies that attract new customers and are in the process of building out a dedicated team to support these efforts. As the campaigns and team mature, Insights gained will inform our growth strategy and investments for a digital first channel for next year and beyond.

Speaker 3

We are also focused on improving our overall marketing strategy with a new advertising agency by introducing regional and local programs to build our brand profile and drive business in strategic markets starting in 2025. Regarding product innovation, we recently expanded our HomeSafe 2nd product to additional states and materially lowered the loan interest rate. HomeSafe 2nd allows homeowners aged 55 and older to access their home equity without their traditional low rate 1st lien mortgage. In the Q3, we saw an 89% increase in home safe second loans compared to Q2 and we anticipate further growth in this area as we intentionally invest more capital and resources to the products. While home equity lending nationwide is on the rise, recent HMDA data shows people 55 and older face denial rates eclipsing 35%.

Speaker 3

Many have considerable home equity but struggle with tighter credit conditions affecting qualification. This represents a significant opportunity for us as our products are specifically designed to serve this demographic. If rates stay higher longer, our 2nd lien home equity loan will continue to be a better option for many borrowers 55 and older. When rates start to fall, the traditional home equity conversion mortgages and our 1st lien proprietary suite may offer more attractive outcomes as well as increased refinance opportunities to our borrower base. By harnessing the power of digital innovation and leveraging a modernized approach to advertising, we're poised to transform how we deliver our services to our customers and help empower more of them to unlock the full potential of retirement through the power of their home's equity.

Speaker 3

Now I'll turn it over to Matt to discuss our financials.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Kristen, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me start with a brief overview of our financial results before I dive into specifics on the quarter. As Graham noted, we delivered $204,000,000 in net income or $8.48 in basic earnings per share with adjusted net income reaching $15,000,000 or $0.67 in adjusted earnings per share, adjusted EBITDA hitting $32,000,000 Our funded volume for the quarter was $513,000,000 which exceeded our guidance range of $475,000,000 to 500,000,000 dollars Tangible net worth rose to $231,000,000 or approximately $10 per share. Comparing our performance to the previous quarter, we saw notable improvements across the board. Revenue increased from $79,000,000 in Q2 to $290,000,000 in Q3, driven by higher origination volumes and significant fair value gains on our residual assets.

Speaker 4

Net income rose to $204,000,000 in Q3 from a loss of $5,000,000 in Q2, largely due to favorable fair value adjustments from improving market inputs and model assumptions combined with increased operational efficiencies. Adjusted EBITDA also saw an uptick, growing from $10,000,000 last quarter to $32,000,000 in Q3. This reflects a combination of higher revenue from increasing volumes and improved margins along with continued reductions in operating expenses, particularly in the salaries and benefits as well as the general and administrative expense lines. Continuing to look at our quarter over quarter performance, we see solid progress across several financial metrics as outlined in the income statement slides in the earnings supplement. First, net portfolio interest income saw a slight decline, primarily due to the higher interest expense from our new non agency financing facilities as we discussed last quarter.

Speaker 4

This was, however, more than offset by a reduction in fair value changes from model amortization, which led to a higher accretive yield on our portfolio compared to last quarter. On the originations front, net originations gains increased notably from $40,000,000 to $57,000,000 as our originations platform grew both in volumes by 15% and margins by 19%. On the expense side, total expenses continued to decrease as a result of the company's cost saving initiatives. Salaries and benefits saw the largest reduction, driven by the impact of our rightsizing efforts. This was the 1st full quarter in which we realized the full benefits of these operational efficiencies.

Speaker 4

This quarter over quarter improvement highlights the strength of our business model, our ability to adapt to market conditions and the operational discipline that has positioned us for sustained profitability. Looking at our year to date performance, we've made significant progress across several key financial metrics. Through the Q3 of 2024, we generated $444,000,000 in total revenue. Net income year to date has reached $183,000,000 while adjusted net income stands at 9,000,000 dollars Additionally, adjusted EBITDA for the 1st 9 months of the year totaled $42,000,000 demonstrating the strong momentum we built throughout 2024. These results reflect the success of our strategic initiatives, improved operational efficiencies and disciplined cost management, which have all contributed to enhanced profitability and long term growth potential.

Speaker 4

Our adjusted earnings per share came in at $0.67 for the quarter, underscoring our ability to drive both top line growth and operational improvements. As we continue executing our plan, we expect to achieve sustained profitability by investing in growth opportunities in our origination platform and maintaining an optimized fixed cost structure. For 2025, we expect to deliver adjusted earnings per share between $2.60 to $3 and remain confident in our trajectory and our ability to meet our financial targets. Turning to the balance sheet. With the completion of the unsecured note exchange, which has bolstered our capital structure and extended our debt maturities, we've greatly enhanced our ability to focus on growth.

Speaker 4

Recently, our team has executed several transactions that were critical to supporting our long term objectives and maintaining financial flexibility. During the Q3, we completed another quarterly securitization of our HomeSafe product totaling $794,000,000 our 3rd such securitization of 2024, which provided us with enhanced liquidity. In the month of October, we completed the call on a reissue of our HECM buyout securitizations totaling $705,000,000 running long term financing for this asset class and generating positive cash flow over the business. Looking ahead, we are encouraged by the favorable trends in the reverse mortgage market and the strength of our proprietary product offerings. Our ability to adapt to changing market conditions combined with a strong balance sheet following the successful debt exchange and improving liquidity position provides a solid foundation for future growth.

Speaker 4

We expect to continue generating positive cash flow and building on our financial successes as we progress into the Q4 and 2025. With that, let me hand it back to Graham for closing remarks. Yes. Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 2

As we conclude a successful Q3, I want to express my gratitude for the dedication and resilience of our team. Their efforts are central to Finance of America's strong performance, and I'm proud of the results we've delivered. Looking ahead, as Matt noted, we expect to deliver adjusted earnings per share between $2.60 $3 in 2025 as we continue to execute our plan and achieve sustained profitability. With the senior population expected to nearly double by 2,050, we are excited about our pipeline of submission volumes, and we see a massive total addressable market over the long term, which we are well positioned to capture as the market grows. When you consider the record number of seniors who are financially well prepared for retirement, while simultaneously holding a record amount of home equity will be poised to meet their needs with our home equity based retirement products.

Speaker 2

And with that, we'll open

Speaker 1

the call up for some questions.

Operator

Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Douglas Harter with UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hi, thanks. It's actually Marissa Lobel on for Doug. Thanks for taking my question. I was hoping you could give us an outlook for volume given this backup in rates?

Speaker 4

For which time period?

Speaker 5

For 20 25.

Speaker 4

So the number we have, we did over $500,000,000 in our Q3. We expect to see something in that same ballpark here in the Q4.

Speaker 2

For next year, we're starting

Speaker 4

to see some sequential growth. As you pointed out, the rates are up a little bit. We'll see where the rates settle out here over the long term. But some of the growth initiatives we have grown into 2025, least to believe we'll be able to increase that number a bit. So probably looking more in the range for 2025 full year, kind of neighborhood of about $2,700,000,000 somewhere in that ballpark.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 2

And Marisa, I'll take a question. Sorry, I'm going to jump in. I'll take a question on the rates though, right? One of the reasons we introduced more HomeSafe 2nd program and our 2nd lien reverse mortgage is exactly because of that reason. So we feel if rates are going up, a 2nd lien product will be ideal for our borrowers.

Speaker 2

If rates come down, they can refinance out of their forward mortgage into a reverse. So we think we're positioned to grow that volume kind of I don't say regardless of rates, but the rates staying around the zip code and we think that we could continue to increase our volume on a monthly basis.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. And also could you give us an update on the timing and your thoughts on the impact of HMBS 2.0?

Speaker 2

Yes. So we were in Denver last week in the NBA. We met with Ginnie Mae. Their latest feedback to us was sometime around the middle of November. So we're still waiting to see that letter, but that was their communication just last week.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you. That's all

Operator

for me. Your next question comes from Stephen Laws with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Great volumes in Q3 and appreciate the guidance. I'm sitting at 263, so nice to be on the low end of what you put out. I wanted to follow-up to your comments about volumes. You mentioned Q4, you kind of expect similar to Q3, a little surprised by that.

Speaker 6

So I'm curious kind of the pipelines, I guess, seems somewhat immune to the rate volatility? Or is it more that maybe it would have grown sequentially had we not seen the vol in rates? And then to follow-up on that, as I think about Q1, is there any seasonality there kind of just coming after the year where maybe it tends to be a lighter quarter or maybe you don't expect to see that?

Speaker 4

So good question, Stephen. I'll start and then kick it around my team here. But as Kristen mentioned in her comments, October this year was our highest month this year for both funding volume and submission volume. So we had a pretty strong start to the funding volume for the quarter and also we have a good strong start to our pipeline heading into the rest of Q4. So that's very favorable.

Speaker 4

Now but November, December, you start to get into holiday periods, right, which will depend on the number of business days, may curtail your funding ability a little bit and also curtail your lead generation in your new pipeline a little bit. So we're thinking about it that for Q4, even though we have a strong start, probably going to be in the same context of Q3. And then the seasonality, if there is some, will probably be reflected in the Q1 volumes, right, because you'll have the lower lead generation in the November December timeframe. And then after Q1, that's when you start to see the real uptick.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I'd just add, we have such low market penetration that as rates stay higher for longer, we continue to get more interest from traditional mortgage bankers and loan officers, which can then go out and tap more of that available market that isn't being educated on the product opportunity today. So we see that as a potential growth opportunity for 2025 as well.

Speaker 6

Great. I appreciate those comments. And then around the rate volatility, fair value marks got a big gain in Q3. How do we think about any reversal since given the move in October and where we are today? Or how should we think about the impact on fair value marks from the rate move?

Speaker 4

So I think as always, there's multiple factors that go into our fair value analysis, interest rates being 1 and they were down in Q3, they're up here in October, early November. We'll see where it settles out over the course of the full quarter. But you also have to think about what's going on with the spreads, right, and home price appreciation among other factors. So rates are up, but we've seen some spread tightening in the market. Our last HomeSafe deal was pretty strong.

Speaker 4

We did the NAVO securitization collapse and reissue here just a couple of weeks ago, saw very good spreads. So that will mute and offset some of the interest rate increase. We'll get to the end of the quarter and see where some of the other factors like home price appreciation settle out on a market by market basis. So it's hard to pin down exactly, but so it will be down somewhat because interest rate moves, but then we'll bring it back a little bit because of the spread tightening.

Speaker 6

Great. Appreciate the comments this afternoon. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I will turn the call to Graeme Fleming for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you everybody for your time today and we look forward to updating our Q4 and full year results in March of next year. So thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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