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Earnings HistoryForecast Sweetgreen EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.24Consensus EPS -$0.23Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPS-$0.44Sweetgreen Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$153.00 millionExpected Revenue$152.04 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$960.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+29.00%Sweetgreen Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/29/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, February 29, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsSweetgreen's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Sweetgreen Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 29, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Sweetgreen Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:26I will now hand today's call over to Rebecca Noonu, VP, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Here with me today are Jonathan Niemann, Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer and Mitch Reback, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we have a couple of reminders. Our earnings release is available on our website at investor. Sweetgreen.com. Speaker 100:00:53During this call, we will be making comments of a forward looking nature. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks and uncertainties. For more information about some of these risks, please review the company's SEC filings, including the section titled Risk Factors in our latest Annual Report on Form 10 ks filings. These forward looking statements are based on information as of today, and we assume no obligation to publicly update or revise our forward looking statements. Additionally, we will be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which are in addition to and not a substitute for measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Speaker 100:01:31A reconciliation of these items to the nearest U. S. GAAP measure can be found in this afternoon's press release available on our IR website. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Jonathan to kick things off. Speaker 200:01:43Thank you, Rebecca, and good afternoon, everyone. My passion to connect people to real food is why I started Sweetgreen with my cofounders, Nathaniel and Nicholas. In 2007, we began our journey to build a category defining brand with the goal of serving delicious meals to local communities. What started as a single restaurant in Washington, D. C. Speaker 200:02:03Now has 225 restaurants in 18 states across the country as well as D. C. We are creating and defining the category of better for you fast casual dining, while remaining acutely focused on building an innovative and enduring business that drives both growth and profitability. In 2023, we were aggressive with initiatives that we believe will benefit us for years to come, such as menu innovation, SuitePass and the Infinite Kitchen. We ended the year with increasing momentum that gives me optimism for the year ahead. Speaker 200:02:35We reported sales of $584,000,000 representing 24% year over year growth. Total digital sales represented 59% of our total fiscal year revenue with over 60% of those sales coming via our own digital channels. Restaurant level margin for the fiscal year was 17.5 percent. On a full year basis, our adjusted EBITDA loss was $2,800,000 representing a $47,000,000 improvement over the same period in 2022. For 2024, we are guiding adjusted EBITDA profitability. Speaker 200:03:08This profitability milestone will allow us to reinvest into the business with the goal of accelerating our growth. Our focus remains on building a category defining brand that has tremendous value for our customers, team members and our shareholders. Our strategic priorities are quite simple. 1, continue building our brand by creating great products and guest experiences and 2, expand our connection to guests by building and operating great restaurants. If we do both of these things well, aided by best in class technology, we should continue to amplify our already strong brand, widen our customer reach, drive customer traffic and in turn continue to drive margin expansion. Speaker 200:03:49Our brand has significantly greater reach than our current physical footprint of 225 restaurants. In 2023, we entered 3 new markets, Milwaukee, Tampa and Rhode Island, and we are pleased with how our 2023 class is tracking towards our financial targets. So far this year, we've opened 4 restaurants, including our first of many in Seattle, Washington. Totem Lake, a suburb of Seattle, has been performing in line with our top urban restaurants in recent weeks. Openings like these reinforce our confidence that our brand resonates across the country. Speaker 200:04:21Corda's Sweetgreen's culture is innovation. We have been consistently ahead of the market in culinary and supply chain development as well as introducing new technology to drive a better customer experience, both online and in our restaurants. In the Q4, we opened our 2nd Infinite Kitchen in Huntington Beach. The Infinite Kitchen continues to deliver many benefits to our operating model, such as higher throughput, better order accuracy, portioning consistency and substantially lower team member turnover. In addition to these benefits, we've also seen the average ticket at both locations more than 10% higher than their respective markets. Speaker 200:04:57As a result, we are seeing the Infinite Kitchen continuing to deliver margins well ahead of our internal production. We are proud that we have built the industry leader in restaurant automation with the Infinite Kitchen. We are confident that it will unlock revenue growth and restaurant level margin expansion and drive increasing returns for our shareholders. To be clear, we have a clear path to 20% plus 4 wall margins with our current operating model, and we believe restaurants with the Infinite Kitchen will be accretive to restaurant level sales and margins. We remain focused on traffic driving initiatives to drive positive same store sales growth. Speaker 200:05:34Our multifaceted approach to driving traffic includes accelerating culinary innovation, continuing to activate our rewards program, improving throughput, focusing on running great restaurants, as well as increasing advertising spend in 2024, while maintaining G and A leverage. We see menu and culinary innovation as a key lever to expand customer reach, positively impact seasonality and drive traffic. While Sweetgreen has historically been known as a salad company, we're broadening our menu while remaining committed to our ethos of building healthier communities by connecting people to real food. On October 24, we launched Protein Plates featuring new protein such as herb roasted chicken and meato glazed salmon. While early, plates have exceeded internal expectations. Speaker 200:06:21Our plates category with the tagline, you don't have to be a salad person to be a sweetgreen person was designed to appeal to a wide audience. We are pleased with the early data points to broaden our brand appeal. In the 1st 60 days after introducing Protein Plate, we've seen our dinner daypart grow with plate. Plate sales are over indexing in markets such as Texas and the Southeast. On February 6, we launched our test of caramelized garlic steak, a slow roasted marinated tender cut of grass fed grass finished tri chip steak, finished with slow roasted caramelized garlic and onion in Boston. Speaker 200:06:56If steak passes our market test process, we will look to roll this out later this year. We've made great strides in marrying customer insights with menu innovation and we have a multiyear menu innovation roadmap. I'm pleased with the operational strides we have made over the last few quarters and in particular how it has translated into frontline growth. There is still opportunity to capture additional demand, particularly at peak periods and we've identified additional areas to drive throughput including improving labor deployment. Our average head coach tenure continues to improve and stability in restaurants for both our coaches and team members is the highest it's been in recent years. Speaker 200:07:34This, coupled with our decision to adjust head coach schedule to spend more time on the floor is translating into improved operations and margin. Additionally, launching shipping last year has supplemented team member wages by nearly $2 an hour. I want to take a moment to welcome our new Chief Operating Officer, Ross Anne Williams. Ross Anne is an accomplished global operations executive, bringing more than 30 years of experience leading international retail businesses. She brings a proven track record in driving sustainable growth of global iconic brands. Speaker 200:08:07Ross Anne's passion for Sweetgreen's mission will further our work of bettering the communities we serve. I look forward to partnering with Ross Anne and bringing her incredible skill set to our leadership team as we embark on the next phase of our growth journey. In the Q4, we delivered our 11th consecutive quarter of over 20% sales growth and significantly expanded our restaurant level margins year over year. We continue to demonstrate operationally and financially our commitment to building a sustainable business with a category defining brand known for quality and transparency. What gets me excited today is the innovation you're seeing from the company. Speaker 200:08:45The Infinite Kitchen and our expanded menu offerings are just two powerful examples that when coupled with the significant improvements we have made to our operations have the potential to unlock significant value in the years ahead. My gratitude to all of our team members who continue to deliver a win win win for our customers, communities and stakeholders. Because of our team, we had a great 2023 and achieved several milestones, including launching Protein Plate, launching 2 Infinite Kitchens and expanding our unit economics. I couldn't be more optimistic and excited for the year ahead. And now, I'll turn it over to Mitch to walk through the financials. Speaker 300:09:23Thank you, Jonathan, and good afternoon, everyone. In 2023, we set out to strengthen our financial model as we guide towards adjusted EBITDA profitability in 2024. Total revenue for the Q4 was $153,000,000 up from $118,600,000 in the Q4 of 2022, growing 29% year over year, our 11th consecutive quarter of over 20% year over year sales growth. For the quarter, same store sales grew 6% year over year. This consisted of a 5% benefit from menu prices and a 1% benefit from traffic and mix. Speaker 300:10:03After a sluggish October, our momentum increased each month in the quarter. Our average unit volume in the Q4 was $2,900,000 Restaurant level profit margin in the 4th quarter was 16.2% a more than 500 basis point improvement from the Q4 of 2022. Restaurant level profit for the Q4 was 25,000,000 nearly double from a year ago. Our restaurant level profit margin for the year was 17.5%. For a reconciliation of restaurant level margins to comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the earnings release. Speaker 300:10:41This year, we've opened 35 net new restaurants, including 1 new restaurant in the 4th quarter for a total of 221 restaurants at the end of 2023. In the Q1 of 2024, we opened 4 restaurants including Totem Lake, a Seattle suburb. In 2024, we anticipate opening between 2327 new restaurants. Approximately 7 new restaurants will contain the Infinite Kitchen. Our restaurant openings will be weighted towards the back half of the year, but approximately 40% of the openings in the second half containing the Infinite Kitchen. Speaker 300:11:19In 2025, we plan to reaccelerate our unit growth. Food, beverage and packaging costs were 28 percent of revenue for the quarter, a 100 basis point improvement from the Q4 of 2022. This improvement was primarily due to menu price increases and a decrease in both chicken and fish costs. Labor related expenses were 29% of revenue for the 4th quarter, a 300 basis point improvement from the comparable period in 2022. This improvement is primarily attributable to head coach schedule optimization we began implementing in the spring. Speaker 300:11:58Occupancy and related expenses were 9% of revenue, down 100 basis points from the Q4 of 2022. General and administrative expense was $35,500,000 or 23 percent of revenue for the Q4 of 2023 as compared to $43,500,000 or 37 percent of revenue in the prior year period. This decrease in general and administrative expenses was primarily due to a $6,400,000 decrease in stock based compensation expense. Stock based compensation for fiscal year 2023 was $49,500,000 down from $78,700,000 in 2022. We anticipate it declining to the mid $30,000,000 range in 2024 and mid teens in 2025. Speaker 300:12:49The significant reduction is primarily related to the accounting treatment of pre IPO related grants. Our net loss for the quarter was $27,000,000 compared to a loss of $49,000,000 in the prior year period. The $22,000,000 improvement in net loss is primarily due to a $12,000,000 increase in our restaurant level profit, a $6,400,000 decrease in stock based compensation expense as previously discussed, partially offset by an increase in depreciation and amortization associated with additional restaurants. Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock based compensation and certain other adjustments, was a loss of $1,800,000 for the 4th quarter, an improvement of $16,100,000 from the Q4 of 2022 loss of $17,900,000 This $16,100,000 improvement was primarily due to an increase in restaurant level profit and a decrease in general and administrative expenses as described previously. Adjusted EBITDA for the fiscal year 2023 was a loss of $2,800,000 representing a $47,100,000 improvement over the same period in 2022. Speaker 300:14:04We ended the year with a cash balance of $257,000,000 Now turning to our 2024 outlook. For the fiscal year 2024, we anticipate the following: 23 to 27 net new restaurant openings revenue ranging from $655,000,000 to $670,000,000 same store sales growth between 3% 5%, restaurant level margins of 18% to 19.5% and adjusted EBITDA between $8,000,000 to 15,000,000 Our guidance is based on new restaurant opening pipeline being weighted to the back half of the year. Additionally, we plan to renovate 3 to 4 large urban restaurants with the Infinite Kitchen. These restaurants will be offline for some period of time and we have built this revenue adjustment into our guidance. We expect these stores to grow significantly in revenue and margin in 2025 through higher throughput as well as provide significant second order benefits, including better customer satisfaction with accuracy and lower team member turnover. Speaker 300:15:12Based on what we know today, we expect the Infinite Kitchen to cost between $450,000 $550,000 and generate at least 7 points of margin improvement as well as deliver significant second order benefits previously described. For the Q1, we anticipate 5 to 6 net new restaurant openings, revenue ranging from $150,000,000 to 154,000,000 dollars same store sales growth of approximately 3 percent restaurant level margins of 16% to 17% and an adjusted EBITDA loss between $4,000,000 to a loss of $2,000,000 Our same store sales guidance reflects timing shifts for New Year's and Easter, both of which did not fall into comparable base of Q1 2023. Additionally, January was impacted by weather throughout much of the country. As weather has normalized, our sales trends have strengthened. I am pleased with the progress we've made strengthening our financial model in 2023. Speaker 300:16:16We're committed to building a durable company that balances both growth and profitability. In 2023, we grew revenue 24%, expanded 4 wall margins nearly 300 basis points and improved adjusted EBITDA by $47,000,000 as we remain committed to disciplined capital efficient growth. We're guiding 2024 to be our 1st year of adjusted EBITDA profitability. We believe this profitability milestone coupled with a healthy balance sheet will set us up for growth and expansion in the years to come. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator to start Q and A. Operator00:17:01Your first question is from the line of Brian Bittner with Oppenheimer. Speaker 400:17:07Thanks. Good afternoon. Congratulations. The traffic mix was positive in this quarter after being slightly negative last quarter. And I know you rolled out protein plates at the beginning of quarter. Speaker 400:17:21Was that kind of the biggest driver of that underlying traffic improvement? And if so, how does the performance of that innovation inform you about your strategies to continue to drive sales in 2024, particularly as you are testing this new stake item? Speaker 300:17:42Hey, Brian, thank you very much. I would say in the Q4, our traffic mix was together about a one point positive, so both pretty small numbers. We are very happy with the protein plates and seen great reception of them. I think as we alluded to in the script, that's particularly been true in the new markets in the Southeast. And we think it will continue to be a source of traffic growth for us in 2024. Speaker 400:18:12And just on the margins, the expansion in those restaurant margins in 2023 was pretty strong, up almost 300 basis points. And your 2024 restaurant margin guidance suggests more than 100 basis points at its midpoint of expansion. So we can obviously see what's happened in 2023 and how you drove margins. But how do you continue this margin momentum in 2024? Can you maybe unpack some of the buckets where you see the greatest opportunity to continue to improve margins on top of a really strong year in 2023? Speaker 300:18:50Yes. Thanks, Brian. I think I would say at a high level, we see the margin improvement in 2024 coming from 3 big sources. 1, continuing to gain benefit from our labor schedule optimization, much of which was started in 2023 Q1. We see strong improvement coming out of our new markets. Speaker 300:19:10They continue to grow and improve significantly from a profit standpoint. And there is some price leverage built into the model where we see approximately 4 points of price rolling through 2024 and we see inflation pressures in really low single digits in COGS and labor. Operator00:19:37Your next question is from the line of Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Speaker 500:19:42Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I guess I wanted to come back to Infinite Kitchen and then maybe ask a question about SuitePass. But on IK, the $450,000 to $550,000 is that the cost of a retrofit? And would it be fair to assume that, that would be the incremental cost on a new build as well? Speaker 500:20:04And if you could tell us kind of where your new build cost is running these days, that would be helpful. Speaker 200:20:10Sure. Hi, Sharon. So on the IK cost, what we're guiding to is $450,000,000 to $550,000,000 incremental build out for a new restaurant. I would like to say that is the current cost in this current fleet. We do expect that number to come down as we continue to scale this and see some economies of scale as well as engineer some of the costs down. Speaker 200:20:31So expect that to come down over time. Here in terms of retrofits, retrofits will have the cost of the machine plus some renovations. It really depends how invasive it has to be. So it will be slightly more than that and it really depends on the restaurant, plus there will be some downtime, which we have modeled into the into our guide as we close some of those stores. We will be choosing some of the stores we're retrofitting will be stores with very high demand real big throughput unlocks. Speaker 200:21:01And so we're excited to see what that does, especially in some of those urban environments where we are capacity constrained. Anything else on does that answer your IK question before I move on to SuitePass? Speaker 500:21:13Yes. And actually, let me ask my CPaaS question. I guess, I was just curious, I remember last spring when you rolled it out, I mean, clearly, your most frequent users were the ones who signed up right away. And I know at the end of September, I think you started to implement sign ups in brick and mortar. So I'm just curious if you've seen SuitePass kind of neutralize or even start to benefit mix somewhat and how you're thinking about that as you go throughout 2024? Speaker 200:21:41Yes. So on SuitePath, I'd say, like most loyalty programs, it's a very iterative process. And I think what we've done is we built a lot of good technology capabilities to enable a great loyalty program. We have not yet seen the benefit of that program. So something that we're actively working on are optimizations and simplifications of the program to make it simpler, better for the customer and better for the company to drive more transactions. Speaker 200:22:07So the bad news is it hasn't had a huge impact on our business so far. The good news is there's a lot of upside to be gained and the investments have largely been made. And so that is a big priority for us, as we look forward this year. Operator00:22:23Your next question is from the line of Chris Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 600:22:30Hi, thanks and good afternoon. So, Mitch, you noted the improvement in sales following, I think, a softer October. Can you maybe provide any more detail on what you saw in terms of sales or comp trends over the course of the last couple of months of the year? And maybe a little bit more detail on what you're seeing quarter to date relative to the guide you provided for the 1Q? I think you also mentioned some improvement following some of the weather impact earlier in the quarter. Speaker 600:22:57Any detail would be great. Speaker 300:23:02Thank you, Chris. What I would say is in the Q4, what we saw was kind of a sluggish October that began to pick up momentum in November and a really relatively strong December, which gave us great outlook as we headed into 2024. January and has been reported by many companies, what we saw was some very strong days offset by weather days and ended up being a relatively weak January. The business has been building pretty steadily as weather has normalized. Speaker 600:23:42Got it. Thank you. And then Jonathan, you mentioned that I think performance in newer markets is tracking in line with your expectations. Could you expand maybe a bit more on how you're thinking about the balance of new and existing markets here from the development picture here going forward? Speaker 200:24:02Sure. So in terms of the newer markets, what's been good to see recently is a lot of those newer markets we're seeing a lot of momentum in. Places where we had talked before had been opened historically a little bit lower than we expected in the Southeast and Texas. Some of our fastest growing markets today gives us a lot of optimism and confidence as we think about our longer term TAM. In terms of new markets, this year we look to open 3 new markets. Speaker 200:24:31We opened Seattle, we're going to be opening in Charlotte and we're going to be opening in Columbus. So those three markets expect a pretty similar cadence as we go forward, kind of 2 to 3 new markets. And there's just so much opportunity still in our existing markets to continue to densify and extend. So just a lot of runway for us and we'd like to balance our risk between new and existing. So expect a very similar cadence between the 2. Speaker 200:25:00One thing that I mean, just to add, sorry, Mitch mentioned a reacceleration of our pipeline. We very intentionally slowed down this year to better integrate the Infinite Kitchen, but we do expect a significant uptick next year in our pipeline and longer term do expect to get back to at least 15% unit growth each year. And hopefully, we can as we get some confidence, we can begin to expand that. One of the ways in which we're doing that is we've developed some smaller format unit, lower cost, can go more places. And with that smaller format unit, we think there's a lot of opportunity to continue to accelerate building out our building out our footprint. Operator00:25:47Your next question is from the line of John Ivankoe with JPMorgan. Speaker 700:25:53Hi, thank you. So thank you for just mentioning the reacceleration in growth in fiscal 2025. Is it just because most of us probably have our models anchored on this, is there at least a loose range that we should be thinking at fiscal 2025 that you'd be comfortable seeing in the models at this point when we talk about significant? Speaker 200:26:18I mean, what I could say is really what I just said is we'd like to be at that at least 15% unit growth per year number. So that kind of gives you an idea of where we should be landing. Speaker 700:26:28Alright. And that obviously, and that that's just not a long term number. That's also a 25 number. So that's helpful. Right. Speaker 200:26:35Yeah. Speaker 700:26:35And okay. Perfect. Alright. I got got that. Maybe I missed it. Speaker 700:26:38And then secondly, if 40% of units to open in the second half will have Infinite Kitchen, is it fair to assume that a number like that would be the mix going forward? Do you expect it to kind of tick up even higher? Speaker 200:26:55We'd expect over time for it to tick up higher, especially as we're able to bring down the cost of those units. So over time, we'd like them to be as many restaurants as possible. We've seen such benefits in terms of lower turnover, more consistent customer experience in many places, much higher throughput. And so we hope that we can get it, we can eventually put it as many places possible, but we want to make sure it makes sense from a capital allocation perspective. So the answer is, hopefully yes. Operator00:27:32Your next question is from the line of Andrew Charles with TD Cowen. Speaker 800:27:37Hi. Congrats on the hiring of Roxanne. I'm curious, can you help me understand what her priority is going to be? Speaker 400:27:43Is it more on Speaker 800:27:43the throughput side? Is it on Infinite Kitchen? Margin improvements? Just love your thoughts. Speaker 200:27:50Sure. So, Ross Anne, we're really pleased to have her join us. She's, the role she's taken on is a COO. And so she will be leading our field operations, our operations services team, our development our store development team and our supply chain team. So really giving her a lot of ownership around the four walls of our business. Speaker 200:28:10Key priorities for her will be driving transaction growth through great operations and great customer experiences in restaurants. It's probably number 1. Number 2 would be reaccelerating our pipeline with great unit economics. So driving down the CapEx of our stores, figuring out the smaller kind of smaller format units that we can that can help us with that acceleration. And of course, with in all of that also driving margins is a huge part of it between both owning supply chain as well as the in store experience. Speaker 200:28:41We think there's a lot of opportunity for margin expansion at the restaurant level. Got it. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:50Your next question is from the line of Jon Tower with Citigroup. Speaker 800:28:54Great, thanks. I appreciate taking the questions. 1st, maybe circling back to the conversation on Infinite Kitchens. Just curious, you mentioned you're seeing so far a 10% or so bump on checks at stores, a couple of stores that you have, the Infinite Kitchen. And I'm just curious, is that kind of when you think about the AUV potential of these new stores with the Infinite Kitchen, like how are you penciling those out or targeted returns? Speaker 300:29:26Hey, John, thank you for the question. We are seeing about a 10% bump in the 2 stores that have DIK. We believe that that's largely coming from our kiosk ordering that those stores have. We have not modeled that into any of our IK calculations at this point. We kind of consider that more or less a second order benefit. Speaker 800:29:49Got it. Thank you. I appreciate that. And then in terms of you mentioned, John, the idea of getting into smaller format units and such. Can you just talk about the opportunity you believe there is for driving down the new build costs? Speaker 800:30:04Obviously, you'll be adding infinite kitchens to a number of these, which will bring them up relative to the historic base. But I think that you targeted historically about $1,200,000 in build out costs, net of TI. So how much further lower do you feel like you can get that? Speaker 200:30:24Yes. So historic pre IPO, pre all the inflation that we saw, we were targeting about 1 $200,000 per store for a classic restaurant net of TI. Today, we're seeing that number closer to $1,500,000 We are working very aggressively to bring that number down. I'm not going to guide to exactly what that is, but it's a very big priority for us to bring that CapEx number down partially through smaller units, partially through other value engineering and optimizations. And of course, with any of those, if it's an Infinite Kitchen store, you have to add the incremental cost of the Infinite Kitchen, which again with scale costs will come down from that $450,000,000 to $550,000,000 level we described. Operator00:31:10Your next question is from the line of Catherine Griffin with Bank of America. Speaker 900:31:16Hi, thanks for the question. I wanted to ask just like a clarifying question on the retrofitting restaurants with IK. How should we think about what that means for throughput and a lift to sales at those stores? Speaker 200:31:36It's one of the things we're really looking to test in those restaurants. The Infinite Kitchen can handle about 500 bowls per hour. So it is very, very fast, in the stores that are today they're in 2 suburban deployments, so we're not seeing that level of demand. But some of the places that we're going to be testing it this year are going to be those heavy urban environments where it does have that. So we do expect a sales lift in those restaurants. Speaker 200:32:02We're not ready to say exactly what, but that's one of the key things we're trying to understand. As we mentioned, we've been able to learn a lot about customer experience, savings on labor, savings on getting things more accurate, lower turnover costs, less hiring because the teams are just smaller, but the throughput and the greater capture of revenue is something that we'll be able to talk a lot more about later this year. Speaker 900:32:29Okay. Thank you. And then just another question on IK. Just on the margin benefits that you're seeing, I think, yes, clear definitely on the labor side sort of where you're getting the benefits. But I'm curious if there is anywhere else in the restaurant operating costs where you're seeing some benefits from IKEA versus the traditional stores, whether it's COGS or anywhere else, yes. Speaker 300:32:55Thanks, Catherine. The majority of it, of course, is labor, but there is an improvement of COGS that comes from perfect portioning. Operator00:33:22Our next question is from Brian Harbour with Morgan Stanley. Speaker 1000:33:28Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. John, could you elaborate maybe just on your comments about SuitePass? Is the reason there hasn't been an impact yet just because sort of the cost of it isn't yet offset by the benefits or have sort of frequency what you've seen with frequency been different than what you might have expected? Speaker 1000:33:50And what do you think kind of needs to change with that to see more of those benefits over time? Speaker 200:33:57Yes. So when we talk about SpeedPass, we're talking about the overall program, both the membership, the SpeedPass Plus and the core SpeedPass program. The Plus program, we are seeing some incrementality out of those guests, but it's not a huge member base. So it's not really driving the overall transaction growth in a big way. When I speak to the overall optimization of SuitePass, I'm talking about the core rewards program. Speaker 200:34:23And I think there's a lot of things we can do to improve it. Rewards that are simpler, the better experience in the app, more one to one personalization of a lot of that. And I think there's a lot we can do around CRM and campaign to drive that incremental visit. So look for some pretty significant changes and optimizations coming that we will be working on. We do think it can be a really big transaction driver for us as well as the customer acquisition driver for us. Speaker 200:34:51So the good news, as I mentioned, is we've built the technology, the tech stack is there and there's a pretty long time in investment in order to get that and we're able to use the foundation in order to improve this program to work for us. Speaker 1000:35:08Okay. Thanks. And then your comments about sort of Infinite Kitchen can do 500 bowls per hour. What do you have a lot of stores that you think are in fact kind of throughput constraints? And I guess my question is, does it make sense to put that in the majority of stores or are some suburban stores, for example, maybe it's not warranted, right? Speaker 1000:35:35I guess I'm just curious where you think it's kind of more impactful versus perhaps less impactful to a given store. Speaker 200:35:44Yes. So the technology obviously works best in higher volume, high throughput locations. That's where you see the most leverage. But it also I mean the two places that we've been testing it in are kind of average for our fleet average locations in suburban neighborhoods. And it's we intentionally tested it there because we wanted to make sure that it would work not just in these urban locations, but really all over the country. Speaker 200:36:08So the throughput is an extra benefit in those super high volume, the stores think about the Midtown New York type of restaurants, but we also have a lot of confidence that it will work in suburban neighborhoods. You may not hit that $500 per hour peak, but you still get all of the other benefits around less labor, less turnover, less CX costs, better portioning. I mean the food quality is better. Many of you have been there and tried it, but we think that there's a ton of opportunity for this over time. Operator00:36:40Your next question is from the line of Brian Mulan with Piper Sandler. Speaker 1100:36:47Sattler. Just another question in the prepared remarks, Mitch, I think you said it would be a 7% benefit to margins. But just a clarification, what is that 7% lift related to? Is that related to your current store margins or is that lift relative to maybe the 20% target that you have for the existing base stores? Speaker 300:37:11That 7% 7 points is relative to the current fleet. Speaker 1100:37:17Okay. Thank you for that. And then, could you just talk about how things are progressing with your manufacturing partner? Are there complicating factors that come up along the way? Are things going smoothly, generally speaking? Speaker 1100:37:29And then just as it stands today, what kind of lead time do they require from you if you wanted to order new units? Speaker 200:37:37So, been a very smooth process. We feel very good about the manufacturing and the supply and we're excited to get these new units up and deployed. There is a bit of a lead time for new units, but we do have supply lasting us for quite a while. And we do have confidence that we can we will be able to put in the orders to be able to scale this in the way we need. So we don't see manufacturing being a huge issue for us at this point. Speaker 200:38:06A lot of it has been de risked in our mind. 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There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Sweetgreen Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:26I will now hand today's call over to Rebecca Noonu, VP, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Here with me today are Jonathan Niemann, Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer and Mitch Reback, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we have a couple of reminders. Our earnings release is available on our website at investor. Sweetgreen.com. Speaker 100:00:53During this call, we will be making comments of a forward looking nature. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks and uncertainties. For more information about some of these risks, please review the company's SEC filings, including the section titled Risk Factors in our latest Annual Report on Form 10 ks filings. These forward looking statements are based on information as of today, and we assume no obligation to publicly update or revise our forward looking statements. Additionally, we will be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which are in addition to and not a substitute for measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Speaker 100:01:31A reconciliation of these items to the nearest U. S. GAAP measure can be found in this afternoon's press release available on our IR website. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Jonathan to kick things off. Speaker 200:01:43Thank you, Rebecca, and good afternoon, everyone. My passion to connect people to real food is why I started Sweetgreen with my cofounders, Nathaniel and Nicholas. In 2007, we began our journey to build a category defining brand with the goal of serving delicious meals to local communities. What started as a single restaurant in Washington, D. C. Speaker 200:02:03Now has 225 restaurants in 18 states across the country as well as D. C. We are creating and defining the category of better for you fast casual dining, while remaining acutely focused on building an innovative and enduring business that drives both growth and profitability. In 2023, we were aggressive with initiatives that we believe will benefit us for years to come, such as menu innovation, SuitePass and the Infinite Kitchen. We ended the year with increasing momentum that gives me optimism for the year ahead. Speaker 200:02:35We reported sales of $584,000,000 representing 24% year over year growth. Total digital sales represented 59% of our total fiscal year revenue with over 60% of those sales coming via our own digital channels. Restaurant level margin for the fiscal year was 17.5 percent. On a full year basis, our adjusted EBITDA loss was $2,800,000 representing a $47,000,000 improvement over the same period in 2022. For 2024, we are guiding adjusted EBITDA profitability. Speaker 200:03:08This profitability milestone will allow us to reinvest into the business with the goal of accelerating our growth. Our focus remains on building a category defining brand that has tremendous value for our customers, team members and our shareholders. Our strategic priorities are quite simple. 1, continue building our brand by creating great products and guest experiences and 2, expand our connection to guests by building and operating great restaurants. If we do both of these things well, aided by best in class technology, we should continue to amplify our already strong brand, widen our customer reach, drive customer traffic and in turn continue to drive margin expansion. Speaker 200:03:49Our brand has significantly greater reach than our current physical footprint of 225 restaurants. In 2023, we entered 3 new markets, Milwaukee, Tampa and Rhode Island, and we are pleased with how our 2023 class is tracking towards our financial targets. So far this year, we've opened 4 restaurants, including our first of many in Seattle, Washington. Totem Lake, a suburb of Seattle, has been performing in line with our top urban restaurants in recent weeks. Openings like these reinforce our confidence that our brand resonates across the country. Speaker 200:04:21Corda's Sweetgreen's culture is innovation. We have been consistently ahead of the market in culinary and supply chain development as well as introducing new technology to drive a better customer experience, both online and in our restaurants. In the Q4, we opened our 2nd Infinite Kitchen in Huntington Beach. The Infinite Kitchen continues to deliver many benefits to our operating model, such as higher throughput, better order accuracy, portioning consistency and substantially lower team member turnover. In addition to these benefits, we've also seen the average ticket at both locations more than 10% higher than their respective markets. Speaker 200:04:57As a result, we are seeing the Infinite Kitchen continuing to deliver margins well ahead of our internal production. We are proud that we have built the industry leader in restaurant automation with the Infinite Kitchen. We are confident that it will unlock revenue growth and restaurant level margin expansion and drive increasing returns for our shareholders. To be clear, we have a clear path to 20% plus 4 wall margins with our current operating model, and we believe restaurants with the Infinite Kitchen will be accretive to restaurant level sales and margins. We remain focused on traffic driving initiatives to drive positive same store sales growth. Speaker 200:05:34Our multifaceted approach to driving traffic includes accelerating culinary innovation, continuing to activate our rewards program, improving throughput, focusing on running great restaurants, as well as increasing advertising spend in 2024, while maintaining G and A leverage. We see menu and culinary innovation as a key lever to expand customer reach, positively impact seasonality and drive traffic. While Sweetgreen has historically been known as a salad company, we're broadening our menu while remaining committed to our ethos of building healthier communities by connecting people to real food. On October 24, we launched Protein Plates featuring new protein such as herb roasted chicken and meato glazed salmon. While early, plates have exceeded internal expectations. Speaker 200:06:21Our plates category with the tagline, you don't have to be a salad person to be a sweetgreen person was designed to appeal to a wide audience. We are pleased with the early data points to broaden our brand appeal. In the 1st 60 days after introducing Protein Plate, we've seen our dinner daypart grow with plate. Plate sales are over indexing in markets such as Texas and the Southeast. On February 6, we launched our test of caramelized garlic steak, a slow roasted marinated tender cut of grass fed grass finished tri chip steak, finished with slow roasted caramelized garlic and onion in Boston. Speaker 200:06:56If steak passes our market test process, we will look to roll this out later this year. We've made great strides in marrying customer insights with menu innovation and we have a multiyear menu innovation roadmap. I'm pleased with the operational strides we have made over the last few quarters and in particular how it has translated into frontline growth. There is still opportunity to capture additional demand, particularly at peak periods and we've identified additional areas to drive throughput including improving labor deployment. Our average head coach tenure continues to improve and stability in restaurants for both our coaches and team members is the highest it's been in recent years. Speaker 200:07:34This, coupled with our decision to adjust head coach schedule to spend more time on the floor is translating into improved operations and margin. Additionally, launching shipping last year has supplemented team member wages by nearly $2 an hour. I want to take a moment to welcome our new Chief Operating Officer, Ross Anne Williams. Ross Anne is an accomplished global operations executive, bringing more than 30 years of experience leading international retail businesses. She brings a proven track record in driving sustainable growth of global iconic brands. Speaker 200:08:07Ross Anne's passion for Sweetgreen's mission will further our work of bettering the communities we serve. I look forward to partnering with Ross Anne and bringing her incredible skill set to our leadership team as we embark on the next phase of our growth journey. In the Q4, we delivered our 11th consecutive quarter of over 20% sales growth and significantly expanded our restaurant level margins year over year. We continue to demonstrate operationally and financially our commitment to building a sustainable business with a category defining brand known for quality and transparency. What gets me excited today is the innovation you're seeing from the company. Speaker 200:08:45The Infinite Kitchen and our expanded menu offerings are just two powerful examples that when coupled with the significant improvements we have made to our operations have the potential to unlock significant value in the years ahead. My gratitude to all of our team members who continue to deliver a win win win for our customers, communities and stakeholders. Because of our team, we had a great 2023 and achieved several milestones, including launching Protein Plate, launching 2 Infinite Kitchens and expanding our unit economics. I couldn't be more optimistic and excited for the year ahead. And now, I'll turn it over to Mitch to walk through the financials. Speaker 300:09:23Thank you, Jonathan, and good afternoon, everyone. In 2023, we set out to strengthen our financial model as we guide towards adjusted EBITDA profitability in 2024. Total revenue for the Q4 was $153,000,000 up from $118,600,000 in the Q4 of 2022, growing 29% year over year, our 11th consecutive quarter of over 20% year over year sales growth. For the quarter, same store sales grew 6% year over year. This consisted of a 5% benefit from menu prices and a 1% benefit from traffic and mix. Speaker 300:10:03After a sluggish October, our momentum increased each month in the quarter. Our average unit volume in the Q4 was $2,900,000 Restaurant level profit margin in the 4th quarter was 16.2% a more than 500 basis point improvement from the Q4 of 2022. Restaurant level profit for the Q4 was 25,000,000 nearly double from a year ago. Our restaurant level profit margin for the year was 17.5%. For a reconciliation of restaurant level margins to comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the earnings release. Speaker 300:10:41This year, we've opened 35 net new restaurants, including 1 new restaurant in the 4th quarter for a total of 221 restaurants at the end of 2023. In the Q1 of 2024, we opened 4 restaurants including Totem Lake, a Seattle suburb. In 2024, we anticipate opening between 2327 new restaurants. Approximately 7 new restaurants will contain the Infinite Kitchen. Our restaurant openings will be weighted towards the back half of the year, but approximately 40% of the openings in the second half containing the Infinite Kitchen. Speaker 300:11:19In 2025, we plan to reaccelerate our unit growth. Food, beverage and packaging costs were 28 percent of revenue for the quarter, a 100 basis point improvement from the Q4 of 2022. This improvement was primarily due to menu price increases and a decrease in both chicken and fish costs. Labor related expenses were 29% of revenue for the 4th quarter, a 300 basis point improvement from the comparable period in 2022. This improvement is primarily attributable to head coach schedule optimization we began implementing in the spring. Speaker 300:11:58Occupancy and related expenses were 9% of revenue, down 100 basis points from the Q4 of 2022. General and administrative expense was $35,500,000 or 23 percent of revenue for the Q4 of 2023 as compared to $43,500,000 or 37 percent of revenue in the prior year period. This decrease in general and administrative expenses was primarily due to a $6,400,000 decrease in stock based compensation expense. Stock based compensation for fiscal year 2023 was $49,500,000 down from $78,700,000 in 2022. We anticipate it declining to the mid $30,000,000 range in 2024 and mid teens in 2025. Speaker 300:12:49The significant reduction is primarily related to the accounting treatment of pre IPO related grants. Our net loss for the quarter was $27,000,000 compared to a loss of $49,000,000 in the prior year period. The $22,000,000 improvement in net loss is primarily due to a $12,000,000 increase in our restaurant level profit, a $6,400,000 decrease in stock based compensation expense as previously discussed, partially offset by an increase in depreciation and amortization associated with additional restaurants. Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock based compensation and certain other adjustments, was a loss of $1,800,000 for the 4th quarter, an improvement of $16,100,000 from the Q4 of 2022 loss of $17,900,000 This $16,100,000 improvement was primarily due to an increase in restaurant level profit and a decrease in general and administrative expenses as described previously. Adjusted EBITDA for the fiscal year 2023 was a loss of $2,800,000 representing a $47,100,000 improvement over the same period in 2022. Speaker 300:14:04We ended the year with a cash balance of $257,000,000 Now turning to our 2024 outlook. For the fiscal year 2024, we anticipate the following: 23 to 27 net new restaurant openings revenue ranging from $655,000,000 to $670,000,000 same store sales growth between 3% 5%, restaurant level margins of 18% to 19.5% and adjusted EBITDA between $8,000,000 to 15,000,000 Our guidance is based on new restaurant opening pipeline being weighted to the back half of the year. Additionally, we plan to renovate 3 to 4 large urban restaurants with the Infinite Kitchen. These restaurants will be offline for some period of time and we have built this revenue adjustment into our guidance. We expect these stores to grow significantly in revenue and margin in 2025 through higher throughput as well as provide significant second order benefits, including better customer satisfaction with accuracy and lower team member turnover. Speaker 300:15:12Based on what we know today, we expect the Infinite Kitchen to cost between $450,000 $550,000 and generate at least 7 points of margin improvement as well as deliver significant second order benefits previously described. For the Q1, we anticipate 5 to 6 net new restaurant openings, revenue ranging from $150,000,000 to 154,000,000 dollars same store sales growth of approximately 3 percent restaurant level margins of 16% to 17% and an adjusted EBITDA loss between $4,000,000 to a loss of $2,000,000 Our same store sales guidance reflects timing shifts for New Year's and Easter, both of which did not fall into comparable base of Q1 2023. Additionally, January was impacted by weather throughout much of the country. As weather has normalized, our sales trends have strengthened. I am pleased with the progress we've made strengthening our financial model in 2023. Speaker 300:16:16We're committed to building a durable company that balances both growth and profitability. In 2023, we grew revenue 24%, expanded 4 wall margins nearly 300 basis points and improved adjusted EBITDA by $47,000,000 as we remain committed to disciplined capital efficient growth. We're guiding 2024 to be our 1st year of adjusted EBITDA profitability. We believe this profitability milestone coupled with a healthy balance sheet will set us up for growth and expansion in the years to come. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator to start Q and A. Operator00:17:01Your first question is from the line of Brian Bittner with Oppenheimer. Speaker 400:17:07Thanks. Good afternoon. Congratulations. The traffic mix was positive in this quarter after being slightly negative last quarter. And I know you rolled out protein plates at the beginning of quarter. Speaker 400:17:21Was that kind of the biggest driver of that underlying traffic improvement? And if so, how does the performance of that innovation inform you about your strategies to continue to drive sales in 2024, particularly as you are testing this new stake item? Speaker 300:17:42Hey, Brian, thank you very much. I would say in the Q4, our traffic mix was together about a one point positive, so both pretty small numbers. We are very happy with the protein plates and seen great reception of them. I think as we alluded to in the script, that's particularly been true in the new markets in the Southeast. And we think it will continue to be a source of traffic growth for us in 2024. Speaker 400:18:12And just on the margins, the expansion in those restaurant margins in 2023 was pretty strong, up almost 300 basis points. And your 2024 restaurant margin guidance suggests more than 100 basis points at its midpoint of expansion. So we can obviously see what's happened in 2023 and how you drove margins. But how do you continue this margin momentum in 2024? Can you maybe unpack some of the buckets where you see the greatest opportunity to continue to improve margins on top of a really strong year in 2023? Speaker 300:18:50Yes. Thanks, Brian. I think I would say at a high level, we see the margin improvement in 2024 coming from 3 big sources. 1, continuing to gain benefit from our labor schedule optimization, much of which was started in 2023 Q1. We see strong improvement coming out of our new markets. Speaker 300:19:10They continue to grow and improve significantly from a profit standpoint. And there is some price leverage built into the model where we see approximately 4 points of price rolling through 2024 and we see inflation pressures in really low single digits in COGS and labor. Operator00:19:37Your next question is from the line of Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Speaker 500:19:42Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I guess I wanted to come back to Infinite Kitchen and then maybe ask a question about SuitePass. But on IK, the $450,000 to $550,000 is that the cost of a retrofit? And would it be fair to assume that, that would be the incremental cost on a new build as well? Speaker 500:20:04And if you could tell us kind of where your new build cost is running these days, that would be helpful. Speaker 200:20:10Sure. Hi, Sharon. So on the IK cost, what we're guiding to is $450,000,000 to $550,000,000 incremental build out for a new restaurant. I would like to say that is the current cost in this current fleet. We do expect that number to come down as we continue to scale this and see some economies of scale as well as engineer some of the costs down. Speaker 200:20:31So expect that to come down over time. Here in terms of retrofits, retrofits will have the cost of the machine plus some renovations. It really depends how invasive it has to be. So it will be slightly more than that and it really depends on the restaurant, plus there will be some downtime, which we have modeled into the into our guide as we close some of those stores. We will be choosing some of the stores we're retrofitting will be stores with very high demand real big throughput unlocks. Speaker 200:21:01And so we're excited to see what that does, especially in some of those urban environments where we are capacity constrained. Anything else on does that answer your IK question before I move on to SuitePass? Speaker 500:21:13Yes. And actually, let me ask my CPaaS question. I guess, I was just curious, I remember last spring when you rolled it out, I mean, clearly, your most frequent users were the ones who signed up right away. And I know at the end of September, I think you started to implement sign ups in brick and mortar. So I'm just curious if you've seen SuitePass kind of neutralize or even start to benefit mix somewhat and how you're thinking about that as you go throughout 2024? Speaker 200:21:41Yes. So on SuitePath, I'd say, like most loyalty programs, it's a very iterative process. And I think what we've done is we built a lot of good technology capabilities to enable a great loyalty program. We have not yet seen the benefit of that program. So something that we're actively working on are optimizations and simplifications of the program to make it simpler, better for the customer and better for the company to drive more transactions. Speaker 200:22:07So the bad news is it hasn't had a huge impact on our business so far. The good news is there's a lot of upside to be gained and the investments have largely been made. And so that is a big priority for us, as we look forward this year. Operator00:22:23Your next question is from the line of Chris Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 600:22:30Hi, thanks and good afternoon. So, Mitch, you noted the improvement in sales following, I think, a softer October. Can you maybe provide any more detail on what you saw in terms of sales or comp trends over the course of the last couple of months of the year? And maybe a little bit more detail on what you're seeing quarter to date relative to the guide you provided for the 1Q? I think you also mentioned some improvement following some of the weather impact earlier in the quarter. Speaker 600:22:57Any detail would be great. Speaker 300:23:02Thank you, Chris. What I would say is in the Q4, what we saw was kind of a sluggish October that began to pick up momentum in November and a really relatively strong December, which gave us great outlook as we headed into 2024. January and has been reported by many companies, what we saw was some very strong days offset by weather days and ended up being a relatively weak January. The business has been building pretty steadily as weather has normalized. Speaker 600:23:42Got it. Thank you. And then Jonathan, you mentioned that I think performance in newer markets is tracking in line with your expectations. Could you expand maybe a bit more on how you're thinking about the balance of new and existing markets here from the development picture here going forward? Speaker 200:24:02Sure. So in terms of the newer markets, what's been good to see recently is a lot of those newer markets we're seeing a lot of momentum in. Places where we had talked before had been opened historically a little bit lower than we expected in the Southeast and Texas. Some of our fastest growing markets today gives us a lot of optimism and confidence as we think about our longer term TAM. In terms of new markets, this year we look to open 3 new markets. Speaker 200:24:31We opened Seattle, we're going to be opening in Charlotte and we're going to be opening in Columbus. So those three markets expect a pretty similar cadence as we go forward, kind of 2 to 3 new markets. And there's just so much opportunity still in our existing markets to continue to densify and extend. So just a lot of runway for us and we'd like to balance our risk between new and existing. So expect a very similar cadence between the 2. Speaker 200:25:00One thing that I mean, just to add, sorry, Mitch mentioned a reacceleration of our pipeline. We very intentionally slowed down this year to better integrate the Infinite Kitchen, but we do expect a significant uptick next year in our pipeline and longer term do expect to get back to at least 15% unit growth each year. And hopefully, we can as we get some confidence, we can begin to expand that. One of the ways in which we're doing that is we've developed some smaller format unit, lower cost, can go more places. And with that smaller format unit, we think there's a lot of opportunity to continue to accelerate building out our building out our footprint. Operator00:25:47Your next question is from the line of John Ivankoe with JPMorgan. Speaker 700:25:53Hi, thank you. So thank you for just mentioning the reacceleration in growth in fiscal 2025. Is it just because most of us probably have our models anchored on this, is there at least a loose range that we should be thinking at fiscal 2025 that you'd be comfortable seeing in the models at this point when we talk about significant? Speaker 200:26:18I mean, what I could say is really what I just said is we'd like to be at that at least 15% unit growth per year number. So that kind of gives you an idea of where we should be landing. Speaker 700:26:28Alright. And that obviously, and that that's just not a long term number. That's also a 25 number. So that's helpful. Right. Speaker 200:26:35Yeah. Speaker 700:26:35And okay. Perfect. Alright. I got got that. Maybe I missed it. Speaker 700:26:38And then secondly, if 40% of units to open in the second half will have Infinite Kitchen, is it fair to assume that a number like that would be the mix going forward? Do you expect it to kind of tick up even higher? Speaker 200:26:55We'd expect over time for it to tick up higher, especially as we're able to bring down the cost of those units. So over time, we'd like them to be as many restaurants as possible. We've seen such benefits in terms of lower turnover, more consistent customer experience in many places, much higher throughput. And so we hope that we can get it, we can eventually put it as many places possible, but we want to make sure it makes sense from a capital allocation perspective. So the answer is, hopefully yes. Operator00:27:32Your next question is from the line of Andrew Charles with TD Cowen. Speaker 800:27:37Hi. Congrats on the hiring of Roxanne. I'm curious, can you help me understand what her priority is going to be? Speaker 400:27:43Is it more on Speaker 800:27:43the throughput side? Is it on Infinite Kitchen? Margin improvements? Just love your thoughts. Speaker 200:27:50Sure. So, Ross Anne, we're really pleased to have her join us. She's, the role she's taken on is a COO. And so she will be leading our field operations, our operations services team, our development our store development team and our supply chain team. So really giving her a lot of ownership around the four walls of our business. Speaker 200:28:10Key priorities for her will be driving transaction growth through great operations and great customer experiences in restaurants. It's probably number 1. Number 2 would be reaccelerating our pipeline with great unit economics. So driving down the CapEx of our stores, figuring out the smaller kind of smaller format units that we can that can help us with that acceleration. And of course, with in all of that also driving margins is a huge part of it between both owning supply chain as well as the in store experience. Speaker 200:28:41We think there's a lot of opportunity for margin expansion at the restaurant level. Got it. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:50Your next question is from the line of Jon Tower with Citigroup. Speaker 800:28:54Great, thanks. I appreciate taking the questions. 1st, maybe circling back to the conversation on Infinite Kitchens. Just curious, you mentioned you're seeing so far a 10% or so bump on checks at stores, a couple of stores that you have, the Infinite Kitchen. And I'm just curious, is that kind of when you think about the AUV potential of these new stores with the Infinite Kitchen, like how are you penciling those out or targeted returns? Speaker 300:29:26Hey, John, thank you for the question. We are seeing about a 10% bump in the 2 stores that have DIK. We believe that that's largely coming from our kiosk ordering that those stores have. We have not modeled that into any of our IK calculations at this point. We kind of consider that more or less a second order benefit. Speaker 800:29:49Got it. Thank you. I appreciate that. And then in terms of you mentioned, John, the idea of getting into smaller format units and such. Can you just talk about the opportunity you believe there is for driving down the new build costs? Speaker 800:30:04Obviously, you'll be adding infinite kitchens to a number of these, which will bring them up relative to the historic base. But I think that you targeted historically about $1,200,000 in build out costs, net of TI. So how much further lower do you feel like you can get that? Speaker 200:30:24Yes. So historic pre IPO, pre all the inflation that we saw, we were targeting about 1 $200,000 per store for a classic restaurant net of TI. Today, we're seeing that number closer to $1,500,000 We are working very aggressively to bring that number down. I'm not going to guide to exactly what that is, but it's a very big priority for us to bring that CapEx number down partially through smaller units, partially through other value engineering and optimizations. And of course, with any of those, if it's an Infinite Kitchen store, you have to add the incremental cost of the Infinite Kitchen, which again with scale costs will come down from that $450,000,000 to $550,000,000 level we described. Operator00:31:10Your next question is from the line of Catherine Griffin with Bank of America. Speaker 900:31:16Hi, thanks for the question. I wanted to ask just like a clarifying question on the retrofitting restaurants with IK. How should we think about what that means for throughput and a lift to sales at those stores? Speaker 200:31:36It's one of the things we're really looking to test in those restaurants. The Infinite Kitchen can handle about 500 bowls per hour. So it is very, very fast, in the stores that are today they're in 2 suburban deployments, so we're not seeing that level of demand. But some of the places that we're going to be testing it this year are going to be those heavy urban environments where it does have that. So we do expect a sales lift in those restaurants. Speaker 200:32:02We're not ready to say exactly what, but that's one of the key things we're trying to understand. As we mentioned, we've been able to learn a lot about customer experience, savings on labor, savings on getting things more accurate, lower turnover costs, less hiring because the teams are just smaller, but the throughput and the greater capture of revenue is something that we'll be able to talk a lot more about later this year. Speaker 900:32:29Okay. Thank you. And then just another question on IK. Just on the margin benefits that you're seeing, I think, yes, clear definitely on the labor side sort of where you're getting the benefits. But I'm curious if there is anywhere else in the restaurant operating costs where you're seeing some benefits from IKEA versus the traditional stores, whether it's COGS or anywhere else, yes. Speaker 300:32:55Thanks, Catherine. The majority of it, of course, is labor, but there is an improvement of COGS that comes from perfect portioning. Operator00:33:22Our next question is from Brian Harbour with Morgan Stanley. Speaker 1000:33:28Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. John, could you elaborate maybe just on your comments about SuitePass? Is the reason there hasn't been an impact yet just because sort of the cost of it isn't yet offset by the benefits or have sort of frequency what you've seen with frequency been different than what you might have expected? Speaker 1000:33:50And what do you think kind of needs to change with that to see more of those benefits over time? Speaker 200:33:57Yes. So when we talk about SpeedPass, we're talking about the overall program, both the membership, the SpeedPass Plus and the core SpeedPass program. The Plus program, we are seeing some incrementality out of those guests, but it's not a huge member base. So it's not really driving the overall transaction growth in a big way. When I speak to the overall optimization of SuitePass, I'm talking about the core rewards program. Speaker 200:34:23And I think there's a lot of things we can do to improve it. Rewards that are simpler, the better experience in the app, more one to one personalization of a lot of that. And I think there's a lot we can do around CRM and campaign to drive that incremental visit. So look for some pretty significant changes and optimizations coming that we will be working on. We do think it can be a really big transaction driver for us as well as the customer acquisition driver for us. Speaker 200:34:51So the good news, as I mentioned, is we've built the technology, the tech stack is there and there's a pretty long time in investment in order to get that and we're able to use the foundation in order to improve this program to work for us. Speaker 1000:35:08Okay. Thanks. And then your comments about sort of Infinite Kitchen can do 500 bowls per hour. What do you have a lot of stores that you think are in fact kind of throughput constraints? And I guess my question is, does it make sense to put that in the majority of stores or are some suburban stores, for example, maybe it's not warranted, right? Speaker 1000:35:35I guess I'm just curious where you think it's kind of more impactful versus perhaps less impactful to a given store. Speaker 200:35:44Yes. So the technology obviously works best in higher volume, high throughput locations. That's where you see the most leverage. But it also I mean the two places that we've been testing it in are kind of average for our fleet average locations in suburban neighborhoods. And it's we intentionally tested it there because we wanted to make sure that it would work not just in these urban locations, but really all over the country. Speaker 200:36:08So the throughput is an extra benefit in those super high volume, the stores think about the Midtown New York type of restaurants, but we also have a lot of confidence that it will work in suburban neighborhoods. You may not hit that $500 per hour peak, but you still get all of the other benefits around less labor, less turnover, less CX costs, better portioning. I mean the food quality is better. Many of you have been there and tried it, but we think that there's a ton of opportunity for this over time. Operator00:36:40Your next question is from the line of Brian Mulan with Piper Sandler. Speaker 1100:36:47Sattler. Just another question in the prepared remarks, Mitch, I think you said it would be a 7% benefit to margins. But just a clarification, what is that 7% lift related to? Is that related to your current store margins or is that lift relative to maybe the 20% target that you have for the existing base stores? Speaker 300:37:11That 7% 7 points is relative to the current fleet. Speaker 1100:37:17Okay. Thank you for that. And then, could you just talk about how things are progressing with your manufacturing partner? Are there complicating factors that come up along the way? Are things going smoothly, generally speaking? Speaker 1100:37:29And then just as it stands today, what kind of lead time do they require from you if you wanted to order new units? Speaker 200:37:37So, been a very smooth process. We feel very good about the manufacturing and the supply and we're excited to get these new units up and deployed. There is a bit of a lead time for new units, but we do have supply lasting us for quite a while. And we do have confidence that we can we will be able to put in the orders to be able to scale this in the way we need. So we don't see manufacturing being a huge issue for us at this point. Speaker 200:38:06A lot of it has been de risked in our mind. And as I mentioned, we do see a lot of cost savings as we're able to build more units. We do see economies of scale in order to in our ability to bring the cost down. Operator00:38:22This does conclude today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by