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Earnings HistoryForecast Verona Pharma EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.16Consensus EPS -$0.23Beat/MissBeat by +$0.07One Year Ago EPSN/AVerona Pharma Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AVerona Pharma Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/29/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, February 29, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Verona Pharma Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 29, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to Verona Pharma's 4th Quarter and Full Year Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Operating Highlights Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Earlier this morning, Verona Pharma issued a press release announcing its financial results for the 3 months and full year ended December 31, 2023. A copy can be found in the Investor Relations tab on the corporate website, www.veronapharma.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during today's call, statements about the company's future expectations, plans and prospects are forward looking statements. Operator00:00:43These forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other important factors that may cause our actual results, performance or achievements to be materially different from our expectations expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Any such forward looking statements represent management's estimates as of the date of this conference call. While the company may elect to update such forward looking statements at some point in the future, it disclaims any obligation to do so, even if subsequent events cause its views to change. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will remain available for 90 days. Operator00:01:33I'd now like to turn the call over to Doctor. David Zaccardelli, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:43Thank you, and welcome everyone to today's call. With me today are Mark Hahn, our Chief Financial Officer Doctor. Kathy Rickard, our Chief Medical Officer Chris Martin, our Chief Commercial Officer and Doctor. Tara Rowe, our Chief Development Officer. 2023 was a pivotal year for Verona Pharma and importantly for millions of patients suffering from COPD. Speaker 100:02:09Following a very positive data from our Phase 3 ENHANCE program, we submitted a new drug application to the FDA seeking U. S. Approval of ensifentrine for the maintenance treatment of patients with COPD. As you know, the FDA accepted our NDA for review and assigned a PDUFA target action date of June 26, 2024 and indicated they are not planning to hold an advisory committee meeting to discuss the NDA. We continue to advance our preparations for the planned commercial launch of ensifentrine in the U. Speaker 100:02:45S. And look forward to continuing our work with the FDA during the review. If approved, ensifentrine is expected to be the 1st novel inhaled mechanism available for the treatment of COPD in over 20 years. We believe its dual mechanism providing bronchodilator and non steroidal anti inflammatory activity has the potential to change the treatment paradigm for COPD. Currently, more than 390,000,000 patients suffer from COPD worldwide, and it is the 3rd leading cause of death globally. Speaker 100:03:25Despite the availability of existing COPD treatments in the U. S, approximately 50% of patients experience persistent symptoms for more than 24 days per month. In addition, approximately 60% of patients who could be considered maximally treated on dual bronchodilators or triple therapy are dissatisfied. This highlights HCP's continued need for new and effective COPD therapies to provide relief to their patients. In October, we hosted an investor event where we presented a comprehensive update on our commercial launch preparation. Speaker 100:04:06We continue to make excellent progress on this front, including strengthening our commercial and sales team and continuing to finalize key tactics, including our distribution and patient service programs, our branded HCP and patient engagement plans, and our internal data infrastructure capabilities to allow quick and actionable insights during launch. We have also continued the rollout of our disease awareness campaign, unspoken COPD, which launched at the CHEST meeting. The campaign is actively highlighting the severe impact of COPD on patients' lives and encourages HCPs to engage patients in a better dialogue to help optimize their care. Overall, we believe we are in a strong position to successfully launch ensifentrine pending approval in June. This confidence is based on the novel profile of ensifentrine, the significant unmet need in COPD, our commercial preparation and the deep experience and capabilities of the VIRONA team. Speaker 100:05:17In addition to the planned U. S. Launch of ensifentrine, we progressed development of 2 new Phase 2 programs. First, we are developing a fixed dose combination formulation with ensifentrine and glycopyrrolate, Allama, for the treatment for the maintenance treatment of COPD delivered via nebulizer. 6 dose combination therapies are commonly used in the treatment of COPD, historically in DPI and PMDI formulations. Speaker 100:05:48Based on market research, an unmet need exists for a nebulized fixed dose combination therapy. We believe the combination of ensifentrine with a LAMA could provide COPD patients with the 1st nebulized fixed dose combination that provides bronchodilation through 2 complementary mechanisms and also non steroidal anti inflammatory effects. This combination was assessed in the ENHANZE program where ensifentrine added on to a LAMA demonstrated robust efficacy and safety compared with placebo added on to Allama. Upon confirmation of an adequate fixed dose combination formulation, we plan to submit an investigational new drug application to the FDA in the second half of twenty twenty four and plan to start a Phase 2b clinical program intending to support dose selection for Phase 3. In this program, we anticipate a dose ranging trial in patients with COPD to identify the appropriate dose of nebulized glycopyrrolate in the fixed dose combination and a second dose ranging trial with a fixed dose combination versus individual components using a factorial design. Speaker 100:07:07Both trials are planned as randomized double blind crossover trials in approximately 50 patients, each with lung function endpoints. Additionally, based on the clinical profile of ensifentrine observed in COPD patients, including a reduction in exacerbation rate and risk and improvement in symptoms of cough and sputum, we believe ensifentrine could potentially be an effective treatment for non cystic fibrosis bronchiectasis. This is a severe chronic condition where the airways of the lung become abnormally wide, leading to a cycle of infection, inflammation and exacerbations that cause lung tissue damage. The condition affects up to 500,000 patients in the U. S. Speaker 100:07:57And there is currently no approved therapy. Despite the lack of approved treatments, ACPs use bronchodilators, antibiotics, steroids, mucus thinners and surgery to treat patients. We plan to commence a Phase 2 clinical trial to assess the efficacy and safety of nebulized ensifentrine in patients with non CF bronchiectasis in the second half of twenty twenty four. The trial is planned as a randomized double blind placebo controlled trial in approximately 180 patients with non CF bronchiectasis over approximately 24 weeks. Endpoints including exacerbations, symptoms and lung function will be assessed in this trial. Speaker 100:08:45Moving on to our finances, I am pleased to report on our strong balance sheet. In support of our commercialization activities, as well as our continued pipeline expansion, in December, we enhanced our financial flexibility through a debt financing facility providing access to up to $400,000,000 We borrowed $50,000,000 at the closing and may draw an additional $100,000,000 upon approval of ensifentrine. Future draws are available upon certain commercial milestones and other conditions. With our current cash balance and the expected proceeds available under this debt facility, we believe we are in a strong financial position as we prepare to launch ensifentrine in the U. S. Speaker 100:09:34And advance new clinical programs. Turning to our global partnering strategy, our development partner Nuance Pharma is continuing enrollment in a pivotal Phase 3 trial of ensifentrine for the maintenance treatment of COPD in China. As a reminder, Nuance Pharma has exclusive right to develop and commercialize ensifentrine in Greater China, and as such will play a key role in addressing the global need for a novel treatment for COPD. We look forward to providing updates as Nuance's trial progresses. We are pleased with our progress in important areas, including regulatory accomplishments, commercial preparation and new program development. Speaker 100:10:20I will now turn the call over to Mark to review our financial results for 2023. Speaker 200:10:27Thank you, Dave. We ended 2023 with $271,800,000 in cash and equivalents. We believe our balance sheet remains strong and with the cash currently on hand and funding anticipated to be available under the recently closed $400,000,000 debt facility, we expect to have sufficient runway at least through the end of 2026, including the planned commercialization of NC Pension in the U. S, if approved, and the 2 Phase 2 development programs Dave discussed a few moments ago. For the year ended December 31, 2023, net loss after tax was $54,400,000 compared to a net loss after tax of $68,700,000 for the prior year. Speaker 200:11:15This represents a loss of $0.09 per ordinary share or $0.69 per ADS for the year compared to a loss of $0.13 per ordinary share or $1.04 per ADS in 2022. Research and development costs were $17,200,000 for the year ended December 31, 2023, compared to the $49,300,000 reported for 20.22. This decrease was driven by incurred on the ENHANZE Phase 3 program, which completed study conduct and analysis early in 2023, whereas in 2022, significant costs were incurred associated with the then ongoing study conduct. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $50,400,000 for the year ended December 31, 2023, compared to $26,600,000 reported for the prior year. This increase was driven primarily by a $15,600,000 increase in people related costs as we expanded our headcount with key hires in medical affairs and commercial positions, inclusive of share based compensation, as well as an increase of $9,700,000 related to the build out of the commercial and information technology infrastructures, marketing and market development expenses and costs associated with our medical affairs team's increased presence at local, regional and national medical conferences. Speaker 200:12:51I'll now turn the call back to the operator for the Q and A. Operator00:12:57We will now begin the question and answer The first question today comes from Andrew Tsai with Jefferies. Please go Speaker 300:13:38ahead. Hey, thanks. Good morning. Appreciate the updates. Thanks for taking our questions. Speaker 300:13:44So a couple on our side. And I guess for the first one for the ongoing NDA review, I know the FDA continues to indicate no AdCom. But since we're basically 3 to 4 months away from the PDUFA, I'm just curious how realistic is this scenario at this juncture? Is it fair to essentially rule out a potential AdCom or not yet? And secondly, how has the FDA dialogue been? Speaker 300:14:13Have they finished with CMC inspections? And if there seems to be no real issues with the review, could an early approval be a possibility? And would you be ready to launch if that were the case? Thanks. Speaker 100:14:28Hi. Good morning, Andrew. Thanks for the questions. Good. So let me talk about the adcom. Speaker 100:14:35I think, of course, anything is possible, but as you sort of outlined, time continues to move forward. And the FDA has communicated to us twice that they're not planning to have an AdCom. So that's our operating philosophy on that. But again, let's be aware that anything can happen. With regard to the review, I mean, I think I would just say it continues and is ongoing. Speaker 100:15:06And I think that with regard to inspections, we've had clinical inspections. I think that both our API and drug product manufacturer are facilities that are known to the agency. And so how they're managing inspections is in the court. And with regard to early approvals, I would just say that the PDUFA is June 26. That's how we think about it, and we'll adjust accordingly. Speaker 100:15:41Are we prepared to launch? In many ways, yes. I think that some of the things that affect that timing always at the end are the label, the final artwork, packaging, labeling, distribution aspects that happen no matter when an approval occurs. So, but overall, we're very pleased with where we are with our supply chain. Speaker 300:16:08Okay, very good. Thanks. And maybe just one more is, let's just say you guys are approved and are launching in second half. Hypothetically speaking, if the launch trajectory doesn't ramp up immediately, it doesn't look strong right off the bat, why would that be the case? Just curious how you think what could go wrong and how you're thinking about these potential risks? Speaker 300:16:32Thank you. Speaker 100:16:34Yes. So I'll make a general statement. I think that I think based on all our work we've done to date, all the market research, the work that we have done with HCPs, we feel confident that the need is there and that the launch will go well in our view. But I'll ask Chris to comment on anything that is on his mind with regard to risk. Speaker 400:17:05Yes. Thank you, Dave. And Andrew, I appreciate the question as well. If we think about launches, what you typically see in a lot of launches that are slower challenges with market access, I think we've been able to mitigate that risk partly due to the channel that ensifentrine will flow through being that it is primarily a Medicare Part B medical reimbursement pathway. Of ensifentrine. Speaker 400:17:40And I think internally, we've done a very good job of ensuring that we understand that pathway. Our limited distribution network that we talked about in the October meeting allows for those specialty DME accredited pharmacies to really understand and adjudicate prescriptions the appropriate way. And we think when we think about how ncifentrine launch would be versus potentially other launches that people are familiar with, that market access dynamic is something that always is in the back of your mind. But because of the reimbursement channel, we believe that ensifentrine will flow through the channel in an appropriate fashion and in a fashion that meets what we've seen in market research, which is physicians' willingness to add ensifentrine across the spectrum in a variety of patients who remain persistently symptomatic. That dynamic, I think, is very favorable for us as we move forward into launch. Speaker 300:18:38Great. Thanks again. Operator00:18:43The next question comes from Yasmeen Rami with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:18:50Good morning, team, and thank you so much for all your thoughtful comments. Few questions for you. I guess the first question is, have you started the discussion with the agency in regards to label negotiations. What is your perspective on what your ask is in regards to the label? That's part 1. Speaker 500:19:15Part 2 is, as we go into June 26, obviously, once the label is available, you'll host a call. Could you tell us if you're going to be able to be in a position to also share pricing at that junction? And maybe the pricing range that you guys have given us has been quite wide. So, would love to give your perspective how you're thinking about it and how payers are perceiving that range. And then the third question is for Mark, which is how should we be thinking about OpEx over this year and next year as you're building a commercial infrastructure? Speaker 500:20:00And thank you again team for allowing me to ask these 3 part questions. Speaker 100:20:05Good morning, Ed. Thanks for that. I'll start with the first one with regard to labeling. Again, we won't really comment on all the review back and forth with the agency. I would point out that it's fairly early still in the process with maybe around 4 months or so to go. Speaker 100:20:27And so I think that from my experience in past reviews, we're about where we need to be. But of course, they're all different in their own right. But I think that it is a little early in the process right now on the labeling end of things. And with regard to what's in the label, I mean, I think that we put forward many of the aspects that I think everyone knows with regard to the indication for the maintenance treatment of COPD. And of course, we represented comprehensively the results from the clinical trials, of course, with the emphasis from the ENHANCE program and of course, all the other important elements that you'd expect in the label from CMC to non clinical that are included. Speaker 100:21:17So I think our submission was comprehensive in nature. With regard to pricing, yes, I think that with approval, we'll have our we'll be well versed in how we're pricing NC500. But I'll ask Chris just to comment on the range of pricing. Speaker 400:21:40Yes. Thanks, Dave. And Yazz, appreciate the question as well. When it comes to pricing, we have provided a fairly large range there. I think when we think about the market today, we know that the current nebulized products like YUPELRI are somewhere in the $100 a month range. Speaker 400:22:01And then we also use Dupixent upwards of $3,800 a month as kind of an upper bound of pricing. The other thing that we have done from a work standpoint is understand kind of the value that Pentrin brings to the marketplace to patients, to physicians in the system. We believe that value is substantial. When we think about exacerbation data, lung function data, symptom improvement data and a benefit risk profile that Dave's described numerous times, we believe that value is very high. And so when we've had discussions with primarily on the Medicare Advantage side, with those payers, what they've told us is they expect ensifentrine to be a premium to the current nebulized products. Speaker 400:22:53Remember, the current nebulized products are single LAMAs or LABAs. So the profile of ensifentrine with bronchodilation, non steroidal anti marketplace. I think we are also looking at other dynamics that are in play, including IR Inflation Reduction Act to ensure that we're pricing ensifentrine appropriate to the value that it provides the patients and the physicians and the system. And as Dave said, we'll be in a very good place come PDUFA to be able to provide specifics around that. Mark, I think Mark, Speaker 600:23:36OpEx was Speaker 200:23:37Yes. I'll take the OpEx question. So yes, the OpEx for Q4 was about $19,000,000 a little over $19,000,000 I think you can expect that over the course of 2024 to tick up sequentially with a couple of caveats and get to maybe a little bit more than double where it is today by the end of the year. Along the way, there will be a couple of bumps in spend. One is, upon approval, we have a £5,000,000 milestone payment that's due to Ligand. Speaker 200:24:15So that will be an incremental one time expense in Q2 presumably. And then upon launch, we have a $15,000,000 milestone payment due to Ligand as well. So another one time payment expense in the period of launch. Speaker 500:24:35Thank you so much, Mark. Speaker 100:24:37Thanks, Yaz. Operator00:24:41The next question comes from Caroline Poser with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:49Hi, good morning. This is Caroline on for Andreas, and thanks for taking our questions. So just one for us. We noticed the Dupixent SPLA for COPD has a PDUFA date of June 27, which happens to be the day after ensifentrine's PDUFA date. Even though Dupixent can only be used in the subset of COPD patients and ensifentrine more broadly, does this proximity and potential approval and launch change anything about your commercial strategy? Speaker 100:25:20I think hi, good morning, Caroline. I think the short answer is no. I think also we noted that and I think it's good for COPD in general and the attention this severe disease is getting. And I think it's great for the patients that Dupixent applies to as well, as you mentioned, is a fairly small subset of the entire COPD population in the U. S. Speaker 100:25:48That's under treatment. But it doesn't change our view of ensifentrine, how ensifentrine would be utilized in patients who are symptomatic across the spectrum of the disease. And for that matter, I don't know if there's anything that really conflicts with ensifentrine and Dupixent from a pharmacology basis as well. So, we see ensifentrine's application the same as we did before. Speaker 700:26:19Okay, awesome. Thank you so much and congrats on all the progress. Speaker 100:26:23Great. Thanks so much. Speaker 500:26:28The next question comes from Xin Wei An with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning. This is Xingwei on for Edward. Sort of a follow-up question after the Dupixent one. Speaker 500:26:45We would like to ask about your physicians' mind share. So based on your feedbacks that you have collected from prescribers, do you maybe project or do you foresee if they would have a preference in how they would use different therapies? Thank you. Speaker 100:27:07Yes. Thank you so much for the question. Maybe I'll have Chris comment on that in general. Speaker 400:27:15Thanks, Dave. When we look at our market research, I mean, the market research that we've done is extraordinarily extensive. I think we're close well over 1,000 physicians surveyed across all specialties, both pulmonology, primary care. We've also spent a lot of focus on nurse practitioners and PAs. What we see in that market research is, I'm going to boil it down to really two things. Speaker 400:27:441 is we see consistency in the unmet need that exists. And we see this both from patients and physicians. We see that patients are complaining, as Dave described in his opening comments, of persistent symptoms. At least half of these patients are having persistent symptoms regardless of therapy. And then we also hear from the physicians when a patient is persistently symptomatic, they lack options or new ways to treat these patients. Speaker 400:28:11What they're excited about in our market research is how broad of a utilization ensifentrine can have. They see this drug in a very wide variety of places, and they see it as potentially as an add on to all therapeutic classes that exist today when a patient remains persistently symptomatic. But they also continue to express to us why this drug couldn't be potentially used on its own and maybe push ICS and the steroids to a later line therapy. Across all of our research, what we see is that the adoption and the willingness to try ensifentrine is very high. I think when we did represent it in October, we talked about almost 90% of the physicians surveyed talking about adopting ensifentrine within the 1st 12 months. Speaker 400:29:04That doesn't change with entry of Dupixent or even potentially either other products that are in the pipeline. Because foundationally, what ensifentrine provides them is the first novel mechanism that works broadly across all their patient populations regardless of background therapy, regardless of eosinophil counts. It allows them really a new foundational therapy that their patients and the doctors desire to have within their practice. Speaker 500:29:34Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:29:40The next question comes from Julie with True Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:29:47Hi, good day and congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking our question. What are your expectations for this fixed dose nebulized ensifentrine plus lama in COPD space. Are there any specific subpopulations being unlocked with this combo? Any color would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 100:30:13Thanks so much for the question. I'll just make a brief comment and then ask Doctor. Terreiro to comment as well. I think that our view is that it's a natural combination products are very commonly used in combining different bronchodilators, anti inflammatories together and combining ensifentrine with a LAMA, I think makes natural sense. I think our view is that it would address a fairly broad population in COPD as well as this is a typical treatment. Speaker 100:30:57And with that, I'll turn it over to Tara to make any comments. Speaker 900:31:02Sure. I think one of the real important features of fixed dose combination that we're preparing is that, you've got ensifentrine with bronchodilatory and anti inflammatory pharmacology combined with another bronchodilator. So you have essentially 2 bronchodilator mechanisms and an anti inflammatory mechanism that's non steroidal, essentially giving you the profile of a triple in this fixed dose combination. So we think it will be a very important alternative to triple therapy for quite a few patients. Speaker 800:31:38Thank you. And sorry, I forgot to mention this was Medi on for June. Thanks for taking our question. Speaker 100:31:46Thanks so much. Operator00:31:58The next question comes from Tom Schroeder with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:32:03Good morning. Good luck on the PDUFA date. We've been waiting for this forever. Speaker 100:32:10Good morning, Tom. I have Speaker 600:32:13a follow-up on the mixed product. You're doing an awful lot of dosing when you've already shown it safe and efficacious at doses. Are you trying to is the hope that this would really be a different product than the combination that you would maybe get at some of the synergies that you saw in your early data? Speaker 100:32:37Thanks so much, Tom, for that question. Tara, if you'd like to comment on our strategy on dose selection and exploring that in these trials? Speaker 900:32:46Sure. Yes. So this is a new product. It's a new formulation. That's the requirement in order to feasibly combine ensifentrine and Allama. Speaker 900:33:02And so Speaker 300:33:04let's see. Speaker 900:33:07What was the second part of your question again? I am sorry. Speaker 600:33:09Well, there is some interesting synergies between ensifentrine and LAMAs in the early preclinical data about rapidity of action. And the question is, are you hoping to capture some Speaker 800:33:20of that? Speaker 900:33:22Of course. That early data did show some synergistic effects with ensifentrine and glycopyrrolate and other muscarinic antagonists and that certainly was mirrored in the Phase 3 data we saw on top of long acting muscarinic antagonists. Speaker 600:33:38Okay. And if I could follow-up quickly on bronchiectasis, would that would you try to develop a second product? Would it look different than the COPD product? Because you are kind of in an orphan indication, so the price points might be very different. Speaker 100:33:57Yes. No, I think, Tom, our strategy is actually to progress with the current formulation. Of course, that's very efficient, as you can imagine. And I think as an incremental indication, while it's not technically an orphan, I appreciate that if the number is closer to orphan than we're addressing just another indication, which is great in helping patients that ensifentrine in its current formulation. Speaker 600:34:32Okay, great. And again, good luck. Speaker 100:34:35Thanks so much. Operator00:34:38This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to David Zaccardelli for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:34:47Great. Thank you everyone for your questions today. And in addition, I'd like to thank our shareholders for their continued support and the dedicated and talented team at Verona for their work and commitment. And we look forward to updating you on our progress over the next few months. Have a great day. Operator00:35:08The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallVerona Pharma Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Verona Pharma Earnings HeadlinesRoth Capital Has Weak Outlook for Verona Pharma Q2 EarningsMay 4 at 1:19 AM | americanbankingnews.comQ4 EPS Estimates for Verona Pharma Lowered by HC WainwrightMay 3 at 4:53 AM | americanbankingnews.comThink NVDA’s run was epic? You ain’t seen nothin’ yetAsk most investors and they’ll probably tell you Nvidia is the undisputed AI stock of the decade. In 2023, it surged 239%. 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Email Address About Verona PharmaVerona Pharma (NASDAQ:VRNA), a clinical stage biopharmaceutical company, focuses on development and commercialization of therapies for the treatment of respiratory diseases with unmet medical needs. The company's product candidate is ensifentrine, an inhaled and dual inhibitor of the phosphodiesterase (PDE) 3 and PDE4 enzymes that acts as both a bronchodilator and an anti-inflammatory agent in a single compound, which is in Phase 3 clinical trials for the treatment of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, asthma, and cystic fibrosis. It is developing ensifentrine in three formulations, including nebulizer, dry powder inhaler, and pressurized metered-dose inhaler. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Welcome to Verona Pharma's 4th Quarter and Full Year Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Operating Highlights Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Earlier this morning, Verona Pharma issued a press release announcing its financial results for the 3 months and full year ended December 31, 2023. A copy can be found in the Investor Relations tab on the corporate website, www.veronapharma.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during today's call, statements about the company's future expectations, plans and prospects are forward looking statements. Operator00:00:43These forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other important factors that may cause our actual results, performance or achievements to be materially different from our expectations expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Any such forward looking statements represent management's estimates as of the date of this conference call. While the company may elect to update such forward looking statements at some point in the future, it disclaims any obligation to do so, even if subsequent events cause its views to change. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will remain available for 90 days. Operator00:01:33I'd now like to turn the call over to Doctor. David Zaccardelli, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:43Thank you, and welcome everyone to today's call. With me today are Mark Hahn, our Chief Financial Officer Doctor. Kathy Rickard, our Chief Medical Officer Chris Martin, our Chief Commercial Officer and Doctor. Tara Rowe, our Chief Development Officer. 2023 was a pivotal year for Verona Pharma and importantly for millions of patients suffering from COPD. Speaker 100:02:09Following a very positive data from our Phase 3 ENHANCE program, we submitted a new drug application to the FDA seeking U. S. Approval of ensifentrine for the maintenance treatment of patients with COPD. As you know, the FDA accepted our NDA for review and assigned a PDUFA target action date of June 26, 2024 and indicated they are not planning to hold an advisory committee meeting to discuss the NDA. We continue to advance our preparations for the planned commercial launch of ensifentrine in the U. Speaker 100:02:45S. And look forward to continuing our work with the FDA during the review. If approved, ensifentrine is expected to be the 1st novel inhaled mechanism available for the treatment of COPD in over 20 years. We believe its dual mechanism providing bronchodilator and non steroidal anti inflammatory activity has the potential to change the treatment paradigm for COPD. Currently, more than 390,000,000 patients suffer from COPD worldwide, and it is the 3rd leading cause of death globally. Speaker 100:03:25Despite the availability of existing COPD treatments in the U. S, approximately 50% of patients experience persistent symptoms for more than 24 days per month. In addition, approximately 60% of patients who could be considered maximally treated on dual bronchodilators or triple therapy are dissatisfied. This highlights HCP's continued need for new and effective COPD therapies to provide relief to their patients. In October, we hosted an investor event where we presented a comprehensive update on our commercial launch preparation. Speaker 100:04:06We continue to make excellent progress on this front, including strengthening our commercial and sales team and continuing to finalize key tactics, including our distribution and patient service programs, our branded HCP and patient engagement plans, and our internal data infrastructure capabilities to allow quick and actionable insights during launch. We have also continued the rollout of our disease awareness campaign, unspoken COPD, which launched at the CHEST meeting. The campaign is actively highlighting the severe impact of COPD on patients' lives and encourages HCPs to engage patients in a better dialogue to help optimize their care. Overall, we believe we are in a strong position to successfully launch ensifentrine pending approval in June. This confidence is based on the novel profile of ensifentrine, the significant unmet need in COPD, our commercial preparation and the deep experience and capabilities of the VIRONA team. Speaker 100:05:17In addition to the planned U. S. Launch of ensifentrine, we progressed development of 2 new Phase 2 programs. First, we are developing a fixed dose combination formulation with ensifentrine and glycopyrrolate, Allama, for the treatment for the maintenance treatment of COPD delivered via nebulizer. 6 dose combination therapies are commonly used in the treatment of COPD, historically in DPI and PMDI formulations. Speaker 100:05:48Based on market research, an unmet need exists for a nebulized fixed dose combination therapy. We believe the combination of ensifentrine with a LAMA could provide COPD patients with the 1st nebulized fixed dose combination that provides bronchodilation through 2 complementary mechanisms and also non steroidal anti inflammatory effects. This combination was assessed in the ENHANZE program where ensifentrine added on to a LAMA demonstrated robust efficacy and safety compared with placebo added on to Allama. Upon confirmation of an adequate fixed dose combination formulation, we plan to submit an investigational new drug application to the FDA in the second half of twenty twenty four and plan to start a Phase 2b clinical program intending to support dose selection for Phase 3. In this program, we anticipate a dose ranging trial in patients with COPD to identify the appropriate dose of nebulized glycopyrrolate in the fixed dose combination and a second dose ranging trial with a fixed dose combination versus individual components using a factorial design. Speaker 100:07:07Both trials are planned as randomized double blind crossover trials in approximately 50 patients, each with lung function endpoints. Additionally, based on the clinical profile of ensifentrine observed in COPD patients, including a reduction in exacerbation rate and risk and improvement in symptoms of cough and sputum, we believe ensifentrine could potentially be an effective treatment for non cystic fibrosis bronchiectasis. This is a severe chronic condition where the airways of the lung become abnormally wide, leading to a cycle of infection, inflammation and exacerbations that cause lung tissue damage. The condition affects up to 500,000 patients in the U. S. Speaker 100:07:57And there is currently no approved therapy. Despite the lack of approved treatments, ACPs use bronchodilators, antibiotics, steroids, mucus thinners and surgery to treat patients. We plan to commence a Phase 2 clinical trial to assess the efficacy and safety of nebulized ensifentrine in patients with non CF bronchiectasis in the second half of twenty twenty four. The trial is planned as a randomized double blind placebo controlled trial in approximately 180 patients with non CF bronchiectasis over approximately 24 weeks. Endpoints including exacerbations, symptoms and lung function will be assessed in this trial. Speaker 100:08:45Moving on to our finances, I am pleased to report on our strong balance sheet. In support of our commercialization activities, as well as our continued pipeline expansion, in December, we enhanced our financial flexibility through a debt financing facility providing access to up to $400,000,000 We borrowed $50,000,000 at the closing and may draw an additional $100,000,000 upon approval of ensifentrine. Future draws are available upon certain commercial milestones and other conditions. With our current cash balance and the expected proceeds available under this debt facility, we believe we are in a strong financial position as we prepare to launch ensifentrine in the U. S. Speaker 100:09:34And advance new clinical programs. Turning to our global partnering strategy, our development partner Nuance Pharma is continuing enrollment in a pivotal Phase 3 trial of ensifentrine for the maintenance treatment of COPD in China. As a reminder, Nuance Pharma has exclusive right to develop and commercialize ensifentrine in Greater China, and as such will play a key role in addressing the global need for a novel treatment for COPD. We look forward to providing updates as Nuance's trial progresses. We are pleased with our progress in important areas, including regulatory accomplishments, commercial preparation and new program development. Speaker 100:10:20I will now turn the call over to Mark to review our financial results for 2023. Speaker 200:10:27Thank you, Dave. We ended 2023 with $271,800,000 in cash and equivalents. We believe our balance sheet remains strong and with the cash currently on hand and funding anticipated to be available under the recently closed $400,000,000 debt facility, we expect to have sufficient runway at least through the end of 2026, including the planned commercialization of NC Pension in the U. S, if approved, and the 2 Phase 2 development programs Dave discussed a few moments ago. For the year ended December 31, 2023, net loss after tax was $54,400,000 compared to a net loss after tax of $68,700,000 for the prior year. Speaker 200:11:15This represents a loss of $0.09 per ordinary share or $0.69 per ADS for the year compared to a loss of $0.13 per ordinary share or $1.04 per ADS in 2022. Research and development costs were $17,200,000 for the year ended December 31, 2023, compared to the $49,300,000 reported for 20.22. This decrease was driven by incurred on the ENHANZE Phase 3 program, which completed study conduct and analysis early in 2023, whereas in 2022, significant costs were incurred associated with the then ongoing study conduct. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $50,400,000 for the year ended December 31, 2023, compared to $26,600,000 reported for the prior year. This increase was driven primarily by a $15,600,000 increase in people related costs as we expanded our headcount with key hires in medical affairs and commercial positions, inclusive of share based compensation, as well as an increase of $9,700,000 related to the build out of the commercial and information technology infrastructures, marketing and market development expenses and costs associated with our medical affairs team's increased presence at local, regional and national medical conferences. Speaker 200:12:51I'll now turn the call back to the operator for the Q and A. Operator00:12:57We will now begin the question and answer The first question today comes from Andrew Tsai with Jefferies. Please go Speaker 300:13:38ahead. Hey, thanks. Good morning. Appreciate the updates. Thanks for taking our questions. Speaker 300:13:44So a couple on our side. And I guess for the first one for the ongoing NDA review, I know the FDA continues to indicate no AdCom. But since we're basically 3 to 4 months away from the PDUFA, I'm just curious how realistic is this scenario at this juncture? Is it fair to essentially rule out a potential AdCom or not yet? And secondly, how has the FDA dialogue been? Speaker 300:14:13Have they finished with CMC inspections? And if there seems to be no real issues with the review, could an early approval be a possibility? And would you be ready to launch if that were the case? Thanks. Speaker 100:14:28Hi. Good morning, Andrew. Thanks for the questions. Good. So let me talk about the adcom. Speaker 100:14:35I think, of course, anything is possible, but as you sort of outlined, time continues to move forward. And the FDA has communicated to us twice that they're not planning to have an AdCom. So that's our operating philosophy on that. But again, let's be aware that anything can happen. With regard to the review, I mean, I think I would just say it continues and is ongoing. Speaker 100:15:06And I think that with regard to inspections, we've had clinical inspections. I think that both our API and drug product manufacturer are facilities that are known to the agency. And so how they're managing inspections is in the court. And with regard to early approvals, I would just say that the PDUFA is June 26. That's how we think about it, and we'll adjust accordingly. Speaker 100:15:41Are we prepared to launch? In many ways, yes. I think that some of the things that affect that timing always at the end are the label, the final artwork, packaging, labeling, distribution aspects that happen no matter when an approval occurs. So, but overall, we're very pleased with where we are with our supply chain. Speaker 300:16:08Okay, very good. Thanks. And maybe just one more is, let's just say you guys are approved and are launching in second half. Hypothetically speaking, if the launch trajectory doesn't ramp up immediately, it doesn't look strong right off the bat, why would that be the case? Just curious how you think what could go wrong and how you're thinking about these potential risks? Speaker 300:16:32Thank you. Speaker 100:16:34Yes. So I'll make a general statement. I think that I think based on all our work we've done to date, all the market research, the work that we have done with HCPs, we feel confident that the need is there and that the launch will go well in our view. But I'll ask Chris to comment on anything that is on his mind with regard to risk. Speaker 400:17:05Yes. Thank you, Dave. And Andrew, I appreciate the question as well. If we think about launches, what you typically see in a lot of launches that are slower challenges with market access, I think we've been able to mitigate that risk partly due to the channel that ensifentrine will flow through being that it is primarily a Medicare Part B medical reimbursement pathway. Of ensifentrine. Speaker 400:17:40And I think internally, we've done a very good job of ensuring that we understand that pathway. Our limited distribution network that we talked about in the October meeting allows for those specialty DME accredited pharmacies to really understand and adjudicate prescriptions the appropriate way. And we think when we think about how ncifentrine launch would be versus potentially other launches that people are familiar with, that market access dynamic is something that always is in the back of your mind. But because of the reimbursement channel, we believe that ensifentrine will flow through the channel in an appropriate fashion and in a fashion that meets what we've seen in market research, which is physicians' willingness to add ensifentrine across the spectrum in a variety of patients who remain persistently symptomatic. That dynamic, I think, is very favorable for us as we move forward into launch. Speaker 300:18:38Great. Thanks again. Operator00:18:43The next question comes from Yasmeen Rami with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:18:50Good morning, team, and thank you so much for all your thoughtful comments. Few questions for you. I guess the first question is, have you started the discussion with the agency in regards to label negotiations. What is your perspective on what your ask is in regards to the label? That's part 1. Speaker 500:19:15Part 2 is, as we go into June 26, obviously, once the label is available, you'll host a call. Could you tell us if you're going to be able to be in a position to also share pricing at that junction? And maybe the pricing range that you guys have given us has been quite wide. So, would love to give your perspective how you're thinking about it and how payers are perceiving that range. And then the third question is for Mark, which is how should we be thinking about OpEx over this year and next year as you're building a commercial infrastructure? Speaker 500:20:00And thank you again team for allowing me to ask these 3 part questions. Speaker 100:20:05Good morning, Ed. Thanks for that. I'll start with the first one with regard to labeling. Again, we won't really comment on all the review back and forth with the agency. I would point out that it's fairly early still in the process with maybe around 4 months or so to go. Speaker 100:20:27And so I think that from my experience in past reviews, we're about where we need to be. But of course, they're all different in their own right. But I think that it is a little early in the process right now on the labeling end of things. And with regard to what's in the label, I mean, I think that we put forward many of the aspects that I think everyone knows with regard to the indication for the maintenance treatment of COPD. And of course, we represented comprehensively the results from the clinical trials, of course, with the emphasis from the ENHANCE program and of course, all the other important elements that you'd expect in the label from CMC to non clinical that are included. Speaker 100:21:17So I think our submission was comprehensive in nature. With regard to pricing, yes, I think that with approval, we'll have our we'll be well versed in how we're pricing NC500. But I'll ask Chris just to comment on the range of pricing. Speaker 400:21:40Yes. Thanks, Dave. And Yazz, appreciate the question as well. When it comes to pricing, we have provided a fairly large range there. I think when we think about the market today, we know that the current nebulized products like YUPELRI are somewhere in the $100 a month range. Speaker 400:22:01And then we also use Dupixent upwards of $3,800 a month as kind of an upper bound of pricing. The other thing that we have done from a work standpoint is understand kind of the value that Pentrin brings to the marketplace to patients, to physicians in the system. We believe that value is substantial. When we think about exacerbation data, lung function data, symptom improvement data and a benefit risk profile that Dave's described numerous times, we believe that value is very high. And so when we've had discussions with primarily on the Medicare Advantage side, with those payers, what they've told us is they expect ensifentrine to be a premium to the current nebulized products. Speaker 400:22:53Remember, the current nebulized products are single LAMAs or LABAs. So the profile of ensifentrine with bronchodilation, non steroidal anti marketplace. I think we are also looking at other dynamics that are in play, including IR Inflation Reduction Act to ensure that we're pricing ensifentrine appropriate to the value that it provides the patients and the physicians and the system. And as Dave said, we'll be in a very good place come PDUFA to be able to provide specifics around that. Mark, I think Mark, Speaker 600:23:36OpEx was Speaker 200:23:37Yes. I'll take the OpEx question. So yes, the OpEx for Q4 was about $19,000,000 a little over $19,000,000 I think you can expect that over the course of 2024 to tick up sequentially with a couple of caveats and get to maybe a little bit more than double where it is today by the end of the year. Along the way, there will be a couple of bumps in spend. One is, upon approval, we have a £5,000,000 milestone payment that's due to Ligand. Speaker 200:24:15So that will be an incremental one time expense in Q2 presumably. And then upon launch, we have a $15,000,000 milestone payment due to Ligand as well. So another one time payment expense in the period of launch. Speaker 500:24:35Thank you so much, Mark. Speaker 100:24:37Thanks, Yaz. Operator00:24:41The next question comes from Caroline Poser with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:49Hi, good morning. This is Caroline on for Andreas, and thanks for taking our questions. So just one for us. We noticed the Dupixent SPLA for COPD has a PDUFA date of June 27, which happens to be the day after ensifentrine's PDUFA date. Even though Dupixent can only be used in the subset of COPD patients and ensifentrine more broadly, does this proximity and potential approval and launch change anything about your commercial strategy? Speaker 100:25:20I think hi, good morning, Caroline. I think the short answer is no. I think also we noted that and I think it's good for COPD in general and the attention this severe disease is getting. And I think it's great for the patients that Dupixent applies to as well, as you mentioned, is a fairly small subset of the entire COPD population in the U. S. Speaker 100:25:48That's under treatment. But it doesn't change our view of ensifentrine, how ensifentrine would be utilized in patients who are symptomatic across the spectrum of the disease. And for that matter, I don't know if there's anything that really conflicts with ensifentrine and Dupixent from a pharmacology basis as well. So, we see ensifentrine's application the same as we did before. Speaker 700:26:19Okay, awesome. Thank you so much and congrats on all the progress. Speaker 100:26:23Great. Thanks so much. Speaker 500:26:28The next question comes from Xin Wei An with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning. This is Xingwei on for Edward. Sort of a follow-up question after the Dupixent one. Speaker 500:26:45We would like to ask about your physicians' mind share. So based on your feedbacks that you have collected from prescribers, do you maybe project or do you foresee if they would have a preference in how they would use different therapies? Thank you. Speaker 100:27:07Yes. Thank you so much for the question. Maybe I'll have Chris comment on that in general. Speaker 400:27:15Thanks, Dave. When we look at our market research, I mean, the market research that we've done is extraordinarily extensive. I think we're close well over 1,000 physicians surveyed across all specialties, both pulmonology, primary care. We've also spent a lot of focus on nurse practitioners and PAs. What we see in that market research is, I'm going to boil it down to really two things. Speaker 400:27:441 is we see consistency in the unmet need that exists. And we see this both from patients and physicians. We see that patients are complaining, as Dave described in his opening comments, of persistent symptoms. At least half of these patients are having persistent symptoms regardless of therapy. And then we also hear from the physicians when a patient is persistently symptomatic, they lack options or new ways to treat these patients. Speaker 400:28:11What they're excited about in our market research is how broad of a utilization ensifentrine can have. They see this drug in a very wide variety of places, and they see it as potentially as an add on to all therapeutic classes that exist today when a patient remains persistently symptomatic. But they also continue to express to us why this drug couldn't be potentially used on its own and maybe push ICS and the steroids to a later line therapy. Across all of our research, what we see is that the adoption and the willingness to try ensifentrine is very high. I think when we did represent it in October, we talked about almost 90% of the physicians surveyed talking about adopting ensifentrine within the 1st 12 months. Speaker 400:29:04That doesn't change with entry of Dupixent or even potentially either other products that are in the pipeline. Because foundationally, what ensifentrine provides them is the first novel mechanism that works broadly across all their patient populations regardless of background therapy, regardless of eosinophil counts. It allows them really a new foundational therapy that their patients and the doctors desire to have within their practice. Speaker 500:29:34Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:29:40The next question comes from Julie with True Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:29:47Hi, good day and congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking our question. What are your expectations for this fixed dose nebulized ensifentrine plus lama in COPD space. Are there any specific subpopulations being unlocked with this combo? Any color would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 100:30:13Thanks so much for the question. I'll just make a brief comment and then ask Doctor. Terreiro to comment as well. I think that our view is that it's a natural combination products are very commonly used in combining different bronchodilators, anti inflammatories together and combining ensifentrine with a LAMA, I think makes natural sense. I think our view is that it would address a fairly broad population in COPD as well as this is a typical treatment. Speaker 100:30:57And with that, I'll turn it over to Tara to make any comments. Speaker 900:31:02Sure. I think one of the real important features of fixed dose combination that we're preparing is that, you've got ensifentrine with bronchodilatory and anti inflammatory pharmacology combined with another bronchodilator. So you have essentially 2 bronchodilator mechanisms and an anti inflammatory mechanism that's non steroidal, essentially giving you the profile of a triple in this fixed dose combination. So we think it will be a very important alternative to triple therapy for quite a few patients. Speaker 800:31:38Thank you. And sorry, I forgot to mention this was Medi on for June. Thanks for taking our question. Speaker 100:31:46Thanks so much. Operator00:31:58The next question comes from Tom Schroeder with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:32:03Good morning. Good luck on the PDUFA date. We've been waiting for this forever. Speaker 100:32:10Good morning, Tom. I have Speaker 600:32:13a follow-up on the mixed product. You're doing an awful lot of dosing when you've already shown it safe and efficacious at doses. Are you trying to is the hope that this would really be a different product than the combination that you would maybe get at some of the synergies that you saw in your early data? Speaker 100:32:37Thanks so much, Tom, for that question. Tara, if you'd like to comment on our strategy on dose selection and exploring that in these trials? Speaker 900:32:46Sure. Yes. So this is a new product. It's a new formulation. That's the requirement in order to feasibly combine ensifentrine and Allama. Speaker 900:33:02And so Speaker 300:33:04let's see. Speaker 900:33:07What was the second part of your question again? I am sorry. Speaker 600:33:09Well, there is some interesting synergies between ensifentrine and LAMAs in the early preclinical data about rapidity of action. And the question is, are you hoping to capture some Speaker 800:33:20of that? Speaker 900:33:22Of course. That early data did show some synergistic effects with ensifentrine and glycopyrrolate and other muscarinic antagonists and that certainly was mirrored in the Phase 3 data we saw on top of long acting muscarinic antagonists. Speaker 600:33:38Okay. And if I could follow-up quickly on bronchiectasis, would that would you try to develop a second product? Would it look different than the COPD product? Because you are kind of in an orphan indication, so the price points might be very different. Speaker 100:33:57Yes. No, I think, Tom, our strategy is actually to progress with the current formulation. Of course, that's very efficient, as you can imagine. And I think as an incremental indication, while it's not technically an orphan, I appreciate that if the number is closer to orphan than we're addressing just another indication, which is great in helping patients that ensifentrine in its current formulation. Speaker 600:34:32Okay, great. And again, good luck. Speaker 100:34:35Thanks so much. Operator00:34:38This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to David Zaccardelli for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:34:47Great. Thank you everyone for your questions today. And in addition, I'd like to thank our shareholders for their continued support and the dedicated and talented team at Verona for their work and commitment. And we look forward to updating you on our progress over the next few months. Have a great day. Operator00:35:08The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation.Read morePowered by