NASDAQ:KPLT Katapult Q4 2023 Earnings Report $8.93 -0.07 (-0.78%) Closing price 05/28/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$8.93 0.00 (0.00%) As of 05/28/2025 04:04 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Katapult EPS ResultsActual EPS-$4.46Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AKatapult Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$56.71 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AKatapult Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date3/14/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, March 14, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsKatapult's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, August 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Katapult Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 14, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the Catapult Holdings 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jennifer Cole, Vice President of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:31Thank you, Jennifer. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, and welcome to Catapult's 4th quarter 2023 conference call. On the call with me today are Orlando Zayas, Chief Executive Officer Nancy Walsh, Chief Financial Officer and Derek Medlin, Chief Operating Officer. For your reference, we have posted materials from today's call on the Investor Relations section of the Catapult website, which can be found at ir. Catapultholdings.com. I would like to remind everyone that this call will contain forward looking statements based on our current assumptions, expectations and beliefs, which are subject to significant risks and uncertainties and which include our future financial performance and financial results for the quarter year, our relationships with merchants, growth from new partnerships and our ability to acquire and retain existing customers and use of generative AI to optimize our processes. Speaker 100:01:29These forward looking statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements contained in the earnings release and on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, that we intend to file in the coming days, as well as the subsequent periodic and current reports the company files with the SEC. These statements reflect management's current beliefs, assumptions and expectations and are subject to a number of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. The information contained in this call is accurate only as of the date discussed. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of these statements, whether as a result of any new information, future events or otherwise. During today's discussion, the company will provide certain financial information that constitute non GAAP financial measures under SEC rules. Speaker 100:02:25These non GAAP financial measures should not be considered replacements for and should be read together with our GAAP results. A reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included with today's earnings release and is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Finally, all comparisons are year over year unless stated otherwise. With that, I will turn the call over to Orlando. Speaker 200:02:56Thank you, Jennifer, and thank you to everyone joining us this morning. We're excited to discuss our 4th quarter performance, which greatly exceeded our top line expectations. We achieved gross originations of $67,500,000 representing growth of 13 percent year over year. Revenue of $56,700,000 which represented 16% growth and just below breakeven adjusted EBITDA. Not only did we record our 2nd highest quarter for gross originations volume ever, we also delivered double digit revenue growth and positive adjusted EBITDA that improved by $4,900,000 year over year. Speaker 200:03:36Today, my comments will focus on the drivers of our outperformance during the Q4, progress on our merchant and customer strategies and a brief update on our tech position. And finally, I'll give you a brief overview of our top focus areas for 2024 and the initiatives we intend to prioritize to drive growth this year. I'll then turn the call over to Nancy, who will provide you with more insights on our Q4 financial performance, our outlook for performance in the Q4 and full year 2024 and what we're seeing in the macro environment in our competitive landscape so far this year. Before I jump into Q4 performance, I want to take a quick step back and reflect on the very strong year we've had. First, we delivered strong gross originations and revenue growth during the period in which most of our competitors saw their business contract. Speaker 200:04:29This underscores our belief that we are not only offering the right product to the market, but we are offering a highly differentiated for both merchants and consumers. 2nd, we changed the trajectory of our path forward by significantly enhancing Catapult Pay during 2023. Catapult Pay accounted for approximately 19% of our total gross originations in 2023, and we are very excited about the future of this game changing application. Finally, we accomplished all this within the rigor of our disciplined expense strategy, which allows us to improve adjusted EBITDA substantially as we grew the top line. We are proud of the strong year we had and of our future potential, neither of which would be possible without the hard work of our Catapult team. Speaker 200:05:18I am so grateful for their contributions and on behalf of the entire management team, I want to thank them for their dedication to our success. With that backdrop, let's talk about our strong performance during the quarter. As we ended the Q4, we believe the uncertain macro environment could have an impact on our core non prime consumer. While inflation had come down, student loan repayments had resumed, savings rates were low and credit card balances were high, creating an uncertain macro environment. Despite this, we saw strong and steady growth in gross originations during the Q4. Speaker 200:05:54And importantly, gross originations volume growth was achieved during the year in which our dynamic underwriting model, risk and controls led to an approval rate that was more than 400 basis points below our 2022 approval rate. This strength was driven by originations coming from our direct integrations as well as Catapult Pay. Within our direct channel, we believe we benefited from merchant advertising and discounting, which we leverage in our own marketing campaigns, driving better than expected increase in demand. This strength extended across our core retail categories included automotive, electronics, furniture and tires. In addition, we benefited from performance of new direct merchants such as Grown Brilliance and Exotic PC. Speaker 200:06:41Catapult Pay was an important driver as well during the quarter. 1st, customers continue to leverage the feature to originate new leases with more than 20 merchants that were available in our marketplace heading into the Q4. 2nd, this was a big driver of our performance. We added Walmart to our Catapult Pay marketplace sooner than we anticipated. We saw a very robust response from our customers and approximately 6% of the leases that originated in the Q4 were durable goods from Walmart. Speaker 200:07:12We believe this demonstrated our ability to drive demand by offering merchants our customer that our customers really want, and we are one step closer to transforming Catapult into a true shopping destination. Overall, we are reaping the benefits of our investments in our direct integration capabilities in Catapult Pay. Our goal is to leverage both these channels to grow our merchant base and overall consumer reach. Let's now dive into the progress we've made executing our merchant strategy, which are rooted in 3 key areas. 1, growing gross originations by integrating with new merchants 2, growing our market share with our anchor merchants and 3, offering ensuring that we offer the variety of durable goods our customers are looking to drive sustainable customer demand. Speaker 200:08:00I'll start with a few updates on direct integration. We are very pleased with the quality of the merchants that we've integrated during the quarter. To highlight a few merchants, 1st, Lenovo. While we've had the relationship with Lenovo since 2017, they opted to pursue a waterfall only process in 2021. Since that time, we worked with them to demonstrate that having a direct LTO option as well as a waterfall process fills a meaningful gap for consumer. Speaker 200:08:29As a result, we've added Lenovo back as a direct merchant during the Q4. They are already supporting us with marketing on their financing page, which includes Catapult as their only LTO option. We also launched Grown Brilliance during the quarter, as we announced in November last year. Customers have been embracing the brand and we are excited to have them on board during the engagement season. While some of you may not be familiar with ExoticPC, they are a PC company that crafts custom PCs and laptops for creators, gamers and professionals. Speaker 200:09:03They integrated our LTO option in the 4th quarter and so far our customers have been very engaged with their good. And finally, we also kicked off a direct relationship with Medmark, one of the most trusted names in medical equipment nationwide. Medmark has both online presence as well as brick and mortar stores, and we're excited to recognize them as one of our top 25 merchants during the Q4. Beyond our 4th quarter success stories, we believe we have a robust pipeline of direct integration opportunities that we can continue to steadily convert throughout 2024. But bringing on new direct merchants is only one part of our merchant growth strategy. Speaker 200:09:42We are focused on leveraging ways in which we can deepen relationships with merchants that are already on our platform. And we've successfully done it with Lenovo and are working with other merchants to market Catapult on their website and to get Catapult into the lead position versus other LTO operator. In addition, we're exploring new ways to leverage our data to help our merchants with their marketing efforts. For example, we piloting ways in which we can share the least amount that a customer has been preapproved to spend with our merchants. While protecting the data privacy of our consumers, we believe we can allow merchants to create a more targeted marketing effort to drive conversion. Speaker 200:10:24We have already seen these types of initiatives work well with our largest merchant partner Wayfair. Throughout 2023, we completed multiple rounds of testing to better understand how it can enhance the parts of our customer journey we directly control within the Wayfair's checkout flow. Our focus was on making sure we are doing a good job educating our consumers about our product and trying to ensure, for example, that customers fully understand pricing and terms and in an effort to remove friction, increase transparency and make their customer journey an even better experience. Our hard work with Wayfair paid off in 2023. For the full year, we grew Wayfair gross originations by 5.6%, which was faster than Wayfair's U. Speaker 200:11:08S. Sales growth for the full year, indicating we are continuing to take share with this important merchant partner. During 2023 applications for Wayfair leases grew by more than 4%, 5%. Further, same day take rate increased by approximately 2 10 basis points in 2023 and overall take rates expanded by 4.50 basis points. During our Q4, however, we saw some softness in our Wayfair gross originations and they are down slightly compared to 2022. Speaker 200:11:41We believe this softness was driven by a few factors, including seasonality. While furniture sales have not been historically a driver of Q4 holiday performance for us, we were able to improve our Wayfair business across several key metrics. Same day take rate at Wayfair grew 3.40 basis points in the Q4 and their overall take rate grew 3.70 basis points, which we believe shows that customers who receive a lease offer from us are engaged and ready to convert and that our efforts to provide customers with even more transparencies on their lease terms are bearing fruit. There is one more positive result that I'd like to highlight within our furniture category. Excluding Wayfair, gross originations grew 30% in the 4th quarter. Speaker 200:12:26This was driven in large part by the success we're seeing with 1 Stop Bedrooms, which we launched as a direct merchant in December 2022. Since then, we've also added a key user feature key user features such as a price calculator, which allow our customers to not only see the full price for the durable goods they are viewing, but also their weekly, monthly, etcetera payments would be if they use the LTO product. This tool also shows customers pricing should they choose to exercise an early purchase option. This has had a meaningful impact on volumes in the Q4. We are pleased with our traction in the furniture category generally and with our Wayfair partnership specifically. Speaker 200:13:10Wayfair and Catapult have mutually a mutually valued partnership and we're working hard to grow together by improving marketing and take rates while enhancing the technology behind our product to deliver an even better customer journey. As we look out into 2024, we believe we can leverage the lessons we learned from tailoring our product to fit the needs of Wayfair and its customers to drive growth again this year. And equally as important, we can take these lessons and continue to deploy them across the rest of our merchant base to drive growth. To complement the work we are doing with our merchants, we are also focused on attracting new customers and enhancing our product experience so that we can capture more wallet share from our existing customers. I'll talk about how we're doing this in a moment. Speaker 200:13:56The bottom line is our strategy is working. During 2023, total application volume grew 13% and we approved more than 600,000 new leases. This translated into about a 23% increase in the number of lease originations, approximately 15% growth in new customers. And as of December 31, 2023, we had approximately 19% more active customers than we did at the same time in 2022. At the same time, we continue to offer an experience that our customers love, resulting in 4th quarter customer repeat rate of almost 60%, which is an all time high for us. Speaker 200:14:36And with an NPS score of 52 as of December 31, we feel confident these data points underscore we are delivering a lease to own product that meets the needs of our customers across the U. S. So how are we doing this? We've already talked about how our robust portfolio directly integrated merchants is driving customer demand and how this is a steady part of our business that we expect to to continue to grow. But let's also talk about Catapult Pay. Speaker 200:15:04Catapult Pay is a feature on our app that leverages our virtual credit card technology, which is fueled by our proprietary AI and machine learning that allow us to determine what is leasable and what is not. This unique capability allows us to use Catapult Pay to conveniently shop for more than 20 merchants directly from our marketplace. Like our direct integration, Catapult Pay is a great business driver for merchants that gives them access to new and non prime customer population who, if not for our lease to own solution, might not have had the financial resources to purchase their durable goods. But unlike our direct integration, Catapult Pay allows us to onboard new merchants like Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, Home Depot and Target among others without requiring merchants to invest in a direct integration. In addition, Catapult Pay has allowed to create a consumer journey that starts in the Catapult mobile app. Speaker 200:16:02This means that consumers can start their transaction with Catapult specifically, and we have more visibility into our customer shopping habits and more control over our destiny. Currently, it's a tool that our existing customers are using most, but we can envision a future where Catapult Pay becomes a low cost customer acquisition channel for us. Our confidence is driven by several data points. First, Catapult Pay has become a trusted channel for customers to start a lease with us. As of December 31, more than 15 percent of our current leases were initiated through Catapult Pay. Speaker 200:16:382nd, this strong usage led to December being the best month ever for Catapult Pay. Nearly $10,000,000 in gross originations came through the feature during the month and $20,000,000 in gross originations came through Catapult Pay for the 4th quarter, representing 30% of our total originations for the quarter. For the full year 2023, $42,000,000 of gross originations were generated through Catapult Pay. 3rd, 14% of the leases that were initiated through Catapult Pay were from actually brand new customers in 2023. And finally, our app itself has become a terrific engagement tool and is the most used channel for our customers to access their lease information. Speaker 200:17:22In December, 63% of customer interactions with Catapult began in the app. Whether through Catapult Pay Merchant or a directly integrated merchant, these interactions started in our app. We ended 2020 with more than 500,000 app downloads, up from roughly 125,000 downloads in 2022. And we also had more than 200,000 unique users interact with the app. In short, we believe our app has created a customer experience that sets us apart from the competitive landscape. Speaker 200:17:55In addition to Catapult Pay, we continue to do a lot of testing and learning within marketing during the Q4. Similar to Catapult Pay, we believe marketing can help us drive customer demand independent of and in concert with our merchants. Throughout 2023, we put the structure and resources in place to allow us to begin scaling and marketing strategy focused on ROI positive consumer acquisition and reactivation. We grew our communication volume significantly with a 500% increase in the number of emails we sent in addition of SMS and push notification capability. As we increased our touch points with consumers, we also saw our open rates and click rates increase and we believe this indicates that our marketing campaigns are resonating. Speaker 200:18:42While we're being very prudent with our marketing spend, we continue to believe that our opportunity to build our market share within the underserved LTO industry is considerable. We will continue to test and learn and tie our marketing investment to strict ROI requirements. As a summary about our opportunity to grow our customer base, we feel good about the strong ecosystem we've built. We have direct merchant partners that deliver a steady stream of new and repeat customers. Catapult Pay is an important contributor to our strong repeat customer rates and has potential to blossom into a reliable low cost consumer acquisition channel. Speaker 200:19:21And finally, we have an emerging market strategy that can prudently scale to amplify growth in both of these channels over time. All this progress we're making is supported by the fundamental strength of our technology platform from our seamless direct integrations to get a decision back to a customer in an average of 5 seconds or less, to our underwriting algorithms that use personal information a customer has top of mind to our ability to autonomously onboard new merchants into Catapult Pay to testing and learning we're doing within our marketing strategy. All of this progress sits on the bedrock of our technology. We believe that our direct LTO option in Catapult Pay are creating sustainable competitive advantage that will help support our continued growth and keep us at the forefront of technology in our industry. In addition, our tech advantage has been built upon low cost, lean, nimble tech infrastructure that allows us to move quickly to scale new solutions and capitalize on growth opportunities that require tech ingenuity. Speaker 200:20:25For example, Catapult Pay is powered by proprietary models that determine if a durable good is leasable. These models allow us to onboard retailers like Walmart, which has a broad spectrum of products available for purchase, including many that are not eligible for an LTO transaction. Given the breadth and depth of their SKUs, without these technology driven models, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to bring market leading retailers like this to our customers. Looking across our competitive landscape, we believe our technology is unique and cutting edge. Last quarter, we talked a bit about generative AI and our opportunities to deploy it within our tech stack. Speaker 200:21:05We are excited to launch our first use case of generative AI in the Q4 to help us automate address validation. We created this tool to address the friction some customers were experiencing if there are minor differences in their addresses they provided and what was listed the merchant database. We can now use generative AI to quickly address what was previously a manual process to update eliminating a source of customer frustration. Beyond this, we're exploring ways to integrate generative AI further in Catapult Pay, marketing and other areas. Before I turn it over to Nancy, I want to provide a few thoughts on our focus areas for 2024. Speaker 200:21:44On the customer front, we understand that our customers are deal seekers, which is why we continue to focus on offering the best and transparent pricing and passing those savings on to our customers. We believe we offer the lowest pricing in the industry and we'll remain focused on giving our customers the value they need and the experience they deserve. As you know by now, our application process is the best in our competitive landscape. We make it easy for the customers to apply. We don't require bank account information, a lengthy credit history, and we never charge late fees ever. Speaker 200:22:19So in 2024, we expect to see our strategy continue to reflect our commitment to delivering value while fostering long term customer relationships. This approach not only sets us apart in the market, it also drives better performance for our business and significantly increases our retention rate. We are also dedicating effort to making it easier for customers to shop with us. We think that enhancing the shopping journey in our marketplace is another way we can control our destiny and help drive demand. One big area we're exploring is product based research, but product based search. Speaker 200:22:57Right now, customers have to start their searches at the retail level and we believe we can create options that consumers for consumers to shop directly for the actual durable goods they'd like to lease. We can make their experiences even better. In turn, this will help us better understand where the customer is in their journey and while they're shopping for what they're shopping for and eventually unlock our ability to do more targeted marketing. Regarding Catapult Pay, we are very pleased with the adoption rates and customer engagement. In 2024, we'll be exploring opportunities to both bring our new merchants that our customers want and further personalize the user experience with the aim of increasing conversion. Speaker 200:23:38To round out our customer focus in 2024, we believe we are well positioned to grow our customer base. There are multiple levers we believe we can pull, including continuing to execute our ROI focused marketing strategy, build out our other customer referral channels, including strategic partnerships and sustaining high customer repeat rates. Within our marketing strategy, we will continue to focus on making sure our customers can use our market leading LTO product to shop for all the durable goods they want and need. This means we'll focus on onboarding direct merchants that can help round out our shopping experience. We believe that our high repeat rate is a hallmark of a loyal and engaged customer base and we'll continue to look for ways to sustain this differentiator, which is compelling piece of our merchant value proposition. Speaker 200:24:28In 2024, we'll continue to look for opportunities to leverage our unique platform to solve merchant problems, opening up new growth channels for both Catapult and our merchant partners. We will also continue to look for opportunities to build new merchant referral pipelines such as the one we created in 2023 with Synchrony. And finally, we will also be looking at opportunities to further leverage our technology and proprietary data to grow our business. 1st, our technology and data insights will continue to be fundamental drivers of the customer and merchant focus areas I've outlined. 2nd, we want to look for ways that we can extend our data lead by integrating new resources that will allow us to capture even more underwriting and fraud signals that allow us to offer more leases to underserved customers. Speaker 200:25:16And while I won't go into too many specifics today, while from a big picture perspective, we are also exploring ways to leverage these competitive advantages to better monetize our growing customer base and create new revenue streams. With that, I'll turn it over to Nancy to discuss our 4th quarter results. Nancy? Speaker 300:25:34Thank you, Orlando. I'm excited to talk to you today about our strong 4th quarter results, which have added to our track record of growth. For 5 consecutive quarters, we have grown our gross originations year over year. And in the Q4, our revenue growth was 16.1%, which accelerated from the revenue growth rate we achieved in the 3rd quarter. We also reduced our write offs as a percent of revenue and with our focus on disciplined expense management, we delivered a $4,900,000 year over year improvement to adjusted EBITDA during the Q4. Speaker 300:26:06With that as context, let me provide you with some financial highlights for the Q4 and full year 2023. Before I discuss the rest of our P and L, I wanted to mention that we made out of period adjustments to correct immaterial errors related to cost of revenues and rental revenue in our P and L. This also impacted property held for lease and sales tax payable on our balance sheet. There will also be a $1,200,000 cash impact associated with sales tax payable. We have reflected these out of period adjustments in the adjusted EBITDA reconciliation table in our press release for your reference. Speaker 300:26:43The revenue write offs as a percent of revenue and adjusted EBITDA data that I'm about to present also reflect these adjustments. As I mentioned, we have now grown gross originations for 5 consecutive quarters. And as Orlando touched upon, our 4th quarter results came in significantly better than what we were expecting. Gross originations increased 13% to $67,500,000 Our performance was driven by strength with our existing merchants and our ability to onboard Walmart into Catapult Pay during the Q4 sooner than we expected. New and existing customers engaged with Walmart through Catapult Pay during the quarter, resulting in higher than expected gross originations. Speaker 300:27:27In addition to this driver, we also saw strong performance during the Cyber 5 period of the holiday season. Gross originations during this period grew double digits compared to the same period of 2022 and Catapult Pay was a key driver of this growth. For the full year 2023, we achieved gross originations of $226,600,000 up approximately 15%. While this headline number is a result we are very proud of, our business excluding Wayfair grew even faster during 2023. Excluding Wayfair, gross originations grew nearly 28%. Speaker 300:28:05While we are very pleased with our partnership with Wayfair, we are also pleased with our progress toward diversifying our sources of gross originations and revenue. For 2023, non Wayfair gross originations were 48 percent of our base, up from 43% in 2022. We believe this demonstrates that we can continue to leverage Wayfair to drive growth even as we diversify our gross origination base. During the quarter, 59.9% of our originations came from existing customers. This is an all time high for us and we believe this reflects our obsession with striving to give our customers the best experience we can at all times. Speaker 300:28:45For the full year, 54.2 percent of our originations came from existing customers. As we have discussed, we are continuing to see a large number of repeat approximately 29% of the time, these customers will generate a lease through Catapult Pay, be it their first, second or third, approximately 29% of the time, these customers will generate another lease within 60 days. We continue to believe that engagement with the app and our targeted marketing efforts are helping us drive our very strong repeat customer growth rate. Q4 revenue increased 16.1% to $56,700,000 exceeding the 13% to 15% growth outlook we provided last quarter. This performance reflects the trends driving gross originations, the volume performance we saw in the 1st 3 quarters of the year and strong collection efforts. Speaker 300:29:37For full year 2023, revenue grew about 5% compared with 2022. Write offs as a percent of lease revenue continued to improve and remained within our 8% to 10% target range. For the Q4, this metric was 9.6%, 10 basis points lower compared with 9.7% in Q4 2022. Moving on to profitability. Our disciplined approach to expense management coupled with our top line growth allowed us to deliver another quarter of substantial adjusted EBITDA growth. Speaker 300:30:12As a reminder, late in 2022, we instituted a number of cost savings measures and we are now at the tail end of anniversarying these benefits. Our 4th quarter total operating expenses were impacted by a $7,000,000 net expense we reported in connection with our negotiations to settle the 2 class action lawsuits that have been pending in New York and Delaware since 2021 2022 respectively. This may be satisfied with the combination of cash and shares. In addition, we have reported a $5,000,000 receivable for our insurance policy payment. In total, we reported a $12,000,000 liability in connection with a potential settlement. Speaker 300:30:54I should note that we have not yet and may not reach a settlement for these parties on these terms or at all. Further, any settlement agreement is subject to court approval by the Delaware and New York courts. Although the settlement negotiations are ongoing and not final, given the status of settlement talks, we are required under GAAP to accrue for the potential settlement. We will provide additional updates as appropriate in the future. During the Q4, our total operating expenses increased by 14.5%, primarily driven by the $7,000,000 net one time estimated litigation settlement expense. Speaker 300:31:32Excluding this expense, total OpEx for Q4 would have decreased by 27.8% year over year. For the full year, we reduced our total operating expenses by 8.5% year over year and excluding the one time estimated litigation settlement expense, full year 2023 op ed have decreased by 19%. Excluding underwriting fees and servicing costs, which are variable, the one time expenses related to our estimated legal settlement and depreciation and non cash stock compensation expense, our fixed cash operating expenses were $8,500,000 down 35.6% compared to last year. Based on our top line performance and the structural and sustainable benefits we are realizing from our operating efficiencies, were able to improve our year over year adjusted EBITDA performance for the 4th consecutive quarter. For the Q4, we recorded just below breakeven adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $4,900,000 compared to the $5,000,000 loss we reported in the Q4 of last year. Speaker 300:32:36As a reminder, expenses related to our estimated legal settlement are an add back to our adjusted EBITDA. For the full year 2023, our adjusted EBITDA loss was approximately $1,900,000 Excluding approximately $1,800,000 for immaterial out of period adjustment, we delivered adjusted EBITDA that was slightly below breakeven. This means that we delivered approximately $16,600,000 more in adjusted EBITDA compared to full year 2022. As of December 1, 2023, we had total cash and cash equivalents of $28,800,000 which includes $7,400,000 of restricted cash. We also had $60,700,000 of credit facility debt. Speaker 300:33:23During the Q4, we identified an issue with our 3rd party lease verification vendor. This issue led to Catapult over funding $9,600,000 in leases during the Q4 that should have been funded by our lending partner. This meant that our cash use should have been about $9,600,000 lower during the quarter and our debt should have been $9,600,000 higher. We corrected the issue in early 2024, recovered the cash and normalized our cash and debt levels. On an adjusted basis excluding this issue, we would have ended the quarter with total cash and cash equivalents of $38,400,000 which includes $7,400,000 of restricted cash. Speaker 300:34:04We would also have reflected $70,400,000 in outstanding debt on our credit facility on an adjusted basis. Let me explain the issue in more detail. We have a 3rd party lease verification vendor that verifies and then approves the new leases to be included in our borrowing base. In December 2023, this vendor had a timing error in their validation processes. This created a situation where a number of new leases each day were not validated and therefore were not added to our borrowing base. Speaker 300:34:35This in turn led to us funding these specific leases at 100% with our own cash instead of a 10%, which is our normal practice. Our credit facility provides a 90% advance rate for funding each valid lease. This issue only impacted Q4 and as I mentioned, we've already received the cash from the underfunding. In addition, once we alerted our lease verification vendor, together we implemented enhanced controls and processes to prevent this from recurring in the future. We are continuing to navigate an evolving macro environment. Speaker 300:35:08While inflation remains stable, it is still having an impact on the spending habits and budgets of our core target consumers. U. S. Retail traffic is down, interest rates while stable remain elevated, saving rates are low and credit card usage is high. Currently, it is unclear what impact these dynamics will have on prime lending standards and how they will affect the U. Speaker 300:35:29S. Consumers access to credit. We continue to believe that we have a large addressable market of underserved non prime consumers it's important to note that lease to own solutions have historically benefited when prime credit options become less available. Based on these dynamics and the operating plan in place for the full year 2024, we expect the following for the Q1. Year over year gross origination growth that is about flat compared with the Q1 of 2023, a 12% to 14% year over year increase in revenue, meaningful improvement in our adjusted EBITDA performance compared with the Q1 of last year, reflecting our revenue growth expectation and a sustained reduction of fixed cash operating expenses. Speaker 300:36:13Fixed cash operating expenses are expected to be down approximately 15% year over year in the Q1. As I mentioned earlier, we will anniversary the cost reduction activities we put in place last year and see a full year benefit in Q1 2024 versus only a partial benefit in Q1 2023. For full year 2024, we expect to continue to expand our customer base and acquire new customers, another year of gross originations growth. For the full year, we expect gross originations to grow at a rate of at least 10% and our Q1 performance should be the low point for the year. We also expect gross originations to improve sequentially in the second half of twenty twenty four compared to the first half of twenty twenty four, driven by growth in direct merchant originations and originations coming through Catapult Pay. Speaker 300:37:06Our outlook does not include any material impact from prime creditors tightening or loosening above us and it assumes that the macro environment does not change significantly. We also expect to maintain strong credit quality in our portfolio. This will be driven by ongoing enhancements to our risk modeling, onboarding high quality new merchants through direct integration and repeat customer engaging with Catapult Pay. Revenue growth is expected to be 10%, at least 10%. Finally, with the continued execution of our disciplined expense strategy combined with our growing top line, we expect to deliver another year of adjusted EBITDA growth. Speaker 300:37:46We also expect adjusted EBITDA to follow the seasonal patterns that we have seen historically. We delivered strong results during 2023 and we believe we are positioning the company for sustainable and profitable growth. Have multiple levers that we can pull to drive both gross originations and revenue, and we have built a lean infrastructure that does not require significant investment to support continued growth. Our strategy is clear and we believe our focus on providing our customers with the best in class LTO experience where terms are transparent and fair and our approach is human and compassionate will allow us to build market share and continue to expand the business. We are very proud of our 2023 performance. Speaker 300:38:29And with that, I'll turn it over to the operator for Q and A. Operator? Operator00:38:35Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Josh Sigler with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:39:14Yes. Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Nice to see the strong gross originations this quarter. Speaker 400:39:20I first wanted to touch on your guidance. So your guidance implies acceleration in originations as we progress through 2024. So to that end, I was wondering if you could comment a bit on your merchant pipeline and if you expect that acceleration can really be driven by new merchant adds or deepening penetration with existing merchants? Thanks. Speaker 200:39:41Hi, Josh. Thanks for the question. Our merchant pipeline continues to be robust. We're looking and we're having more meaningful conversations, obviously, with the retail environment, especially in January being what it was, obviously bringing incremental customers to these merchants is becoming more and more important than some of the issues that we had in the past like shipping constraints and things like that have gone away. So we're going to I would say we're in more of a normal operating standpoint with our merchants. Speaker 200:40:15The issue with the merchants is really getting through their tech stack and getting the integration completed. So we expect that some of the growth is going to come from new merchants that we've already identified in the pipeline. And but that most of the growth is coming from the growth in Catapult Pay as well as our current merchants and really continue to do what we've done with Wayfair with our other merchants to grow the business. Speaker 400:40:42Got it. That's helpful color. Thank you. And then I wanted to talk a little bit about reinvestment. So as we're progressing through 2024, how are you thinking about allocating incremental dollars towards either Catapult pay app or your more traditional lease to own model either integrated into the company's website or in store? Speaker 300:41:04So we continue to evaluate all investments based on the return that it's going to provide and deploying those investments where we think it will have the biggest and quickest impact. So whether that be continuing our marketing testing, whether that means continuing to invest in our technology, All of those are things that we're incorporating into the plan, but really using the return on investment as our basis for what we do and how quickly. We do have a scalable low cost tech stack that really gives us an advantage to be able to not have to make huge investments to continue to drive the business forward. Speaker 200:41:42Yes. And Josh, this is Orlando. I'll add. One of the things that we see in Catapult Pay is a strong customer performance from a returns perspective. And so obviously that we want to continue to grow that business. Speaker 200:41:56It doesn't mean we're not going to focus on direct. We really want to do both. And we think that we'll put investment dollars where we think it's important, but what's going to bring us the best return. Speaker 400:42:08Got it. Makes sense. Thank you. Operator00:42:14Our next question comes from the line of Anthony Chukumba with Loop Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:42:22Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a strong end to the year as well. I guess my first question, I was just a little confused. I thought you had preannounced your revenues and the revenue number that I saw today was I mean, unless I'm going crazy, which is entirely possible, was different from what I saw in your pre announcement. Speaker 500:42:41So I was just wondering if you can reconcile that? Speaker 300:42:44Sure. Hi, Anthony. It's Nancy. Thank you for the question. You are absolutely correct. Speaker 300:42:49We did preannounce 19% as a result of those one time out of period adjustments we needed to make, that impacted revenue as we indicated and that's purely the difference between what we pre announced and what we announced today. But still very pleased overall with not only the gross origination growth, but the revenue growth and with our continued outlook into 2024. Speaker 500:43:13Okay. Great to hear that. I'm not crazy. Speaker 300:43:16No, I'm not crazy. Speaker 500:43:18Okay. First off, do you think that there's going to be litigation? I mean, are you building into your guidance at all? And I guess most importantly, if let's just say that it holds up and late fees do get reduced, like what would be the impact on you, if any? Speaker 300:43:50Nothing. Speaker 600:43:51Yes. Hi, Anthony. This is Derek. I'll take that question. So what we see in terms of the changes to what's happening in the credit stack above us with prime credit cards and near prime credit cards and other financial products is that, anytime that there's a reduction in their financial returns that could create opportunity for us in terms of a change in their underwriting criteria or in change of their approval rates. Speaker 600:44:21So there is a potential there. However, we have not built that into any of our planning. In general, what we see is that consumers are savvy. They're looking for financial products and payment plans that are very transparent to them that they can understand the total cost. And so we take all of these insights and learnings as to what's happening and we implement them into our stance in terms of how we serve our customers. Speaker 600:44:48And we think we stand up well in terms of being very transparent and clear. And in general, we'll have to see how this all shrivels out. The last thing I'd say though is that consumer these partnerships in the prime space that we have have certainly heightened as different credit providers are looking for ways to increase their overall approval rate by having a waterfall partnership with someone like Catapult. So we saw that last year with partnerships that we already announced and we think that there's continued interest in partnering with Catapult to improve the overall options for merchants. Speaker 200:45:26And Anthony, this is Orlando. Thanks for the question. I just want to reiterate, we don't and we haven't for a number of years, we don't charge late fees. And so we're pretty proud of that because we try to work with our customers and they see that as advantage. I think that helps our repeat rate, but we're kind of ahead of the curve from a regulatory perspective if they start going down to lease to own. Speaker 500:45:49Right. And I was aware you guys didn't charge lease fees. I was just thinking more about the impact on the guys above you. But that's helpful. And then I guess just my last question. Speaker 500:46:01I just want to make sure Speaker 200:46:02I heard that Walmart number correctly. Speaker 500:46:04So you said Walmart accounted for 6% of your Q4. Was that total leases? Is that gross originations? Speaker 200:46:13What was that number exactly? Speaker 300:46:15It's total leases, not the gross origination dollars, total leases. Speaker 500:46:20Got it. Okay. Well, I mean that is a very Speaker 200:46:305. We had expected the tech team was trying to get it done before Cyber they were anticipating it to get done after Cyber 5. They exceeded expectations, got it done right before Cyber 5. And so really it's about 6 weeks worth of business in the Q4. And we were very, very happily surprised at the responses by our customers. Speaker 500:46:52Okay. And Orlando, just one last thing, because I am a boomer. Cyberfib, we're talking about the week before Thanksgiving, right? Speaker 200:47:03Yes. That's the Thanksgiving, the 5 days. Speaker 300:47:07Starting Thanksgiving. Speaker 200:47:07Starting Thanksgiving. So it's Speaker 300:47:08Thursday, Friday going through Cyber Monday. Speaker 500:47:12Got it. You learn something new every day when you're a boomer. Thanks, Scott. Speaker 300:47:17Thank you. Operator00:47:23Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to CEO, Orlando Zayas for closing comments. Speaker 200:47:34I just want to reiterate how proud I am of our team. We had a great year. We delivered top line growth during a time when our competitors declined. We grew while adhering to our disciplined expense management philosophy. We believe we are well positioned to build on the success of 2023 and we are looking forward to extending our track record of growth this year. Speaker 200:47:54To everyone listening, thank you very much for tuning in to hear about the progress we've made over the past year. We are proving our ability to grow while providing our customers with fair, transparent and accessible lease to own products and our merchants with a growth channel that has much potential. Thank you again for your support and the interest in our story. Operator00:48:18This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Catapult reported Q4 gross originations of $67.5 million (up 13% YoY) and revenue of $56.7 million (up 16.1% YoY), with adjusted EBITDA nearly breakeven and a $4.9 million improvement from a year earlier. The Catapult Pay feature drove 30% of Q4 originations (≈$20 million) and enabled rapid onboarding of merchants like Walmart, accounting for 6% of total leases in the quarter and generating $42 million in gross originations for full-year 2023. Direct integrations expanded with notable additions—Lenovo reinstated as a direct merchant, plus new partners Grown Brilliance, Exotic PC and Medmark—while deepening relationships with anchors such as Wayfair to diversify originations (non-Wayfair share rose to 48%). Customer engagement hit all-time highs with a Q4 repeat rate of almost 60%, an NPS of 52, 19% more active customers than a year ago, and 15% growth in new customers, underscoring loyalty to Catapult’s transparent lease-to-own model. Through disciplined cost management (fixed cash operating expenses down ~35.6% ex-litigation), Catapult cut full-year operating expenses by 19% (ex-adjustments) and improved full-year adjusted EBITDA by ~$16.6 million, positioning for profitable growth in 2024. AI Generated. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the Catapult Holdings 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jennifer Cole, Vice President of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:31Thank you, Jennifer. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, and welcome to Catapult's 4th quarter 2023 conference call. On the call with me today are Orlando Zayas, Chief Executive Officer Nancy Walsh, Chief Financial Officer and Derek Medlin, Chief Operating Officer. For your reference, we have posted materials from today's call on the Investor Relations section of the Catapult website, which can be found at ir. Catapultholdings.com. I would like to remind everyone that this call will contain forward looking statements based on our current assumptions, expectations and beliefs, which are subject to significant risks and uncertainties and which include our future financial performance and financial results for the quarter year, our relationships with merchants, growth from new partnerships and our ability to acquire and retain existing customers and use of generative AI to optimize our processes. Speaker 100:01:29These forward looking statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements contained in the earnings release and on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, that we intend to file in the coming days, as well as the subsequent periodic and current reports the company files with the SEC. These statements reflect management's current beliefs, assumptions and expectations and are subject to a number of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. The information contained in this call is accurate only as of the date discussed. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of these statements, whether as a result of any new information, future events or otherwise. During today's discussion, the company will provide certain financial information that constitute non GAAP financial measures under SEC rules. Speaker 100:02:25These non GAAP financial measures should not be considered replacements for and should be read together with our GAAP results. A reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included with today's earnings release and is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Finally, all comparisons are year over year unless stated otherwise. With that, I will turn the call over to Orlando. Speaker 200:02:56Thank you, Jennifer, and thank you to everyone joining us this morning. We're excited to discuss our 4th quarter performance, which greatly exceeded our top line expectations. We achieved gross originations of $67,500,000 representing growth of 13 percent year over year. Revenue of $56,700,000 which represented 16% growth and just below breakeven adjusted EBITDA. Not only did we record our 2nd highest quarter for gross originations volume ever, we also delivered double digit revenue growth and positive adjusted EBITDA that improved by $4,900,000 year over year. Speaker 200:03:36Today, my comments will focus on the drivers of our outperformance during the Q4, progress on our merchant and customer strategies and a brief update on our tech position. And finally, I'll give you a brief overview of our top focus areas for 2024 and the initiatives we intend to prioritize to drive growth this year. I'll then turn the call over to Nancy, who will provide you with more insights on our Q4 financial performance, our outlook for performance in the Q4 and full year 2024 and what we're seeing in the macro environment in our competitive landscape so far this year. Before I jump into Q4 performance, I want to take a quick step back and reflect on the very strong year we've had. First, we delivered strong gross originations and revenue growth during the period in which most of our competitors saw their business contract. Speaker 200:04:29This underscores our belief that we are not only offering the right product to the market, but we are offering a highly differentiated for both merchants and consumers. 2nd, we changed the trajectory of our path forward by significantly enhancing Catapult Pay during 2023. Catapult Pay accounted for approximately 19% of our total gross originations in 2023, and we are very excited about the future of this game changing application. Finally, we accomplished all this within the rigor of our disciplined expense strategy, which allows us to improve adjusted EBITDA substantially as we grew the top line. We are proud of the strong year we had and of our future potential, neither of which would be possible without the hard work of our Catapult team. Speaker 200:05:18I am so grateful for their contributions and on behalf of the entire management team, I want to thank them for their dedication to our success. With that backdrop, let's talk about our strong performance during the quarter. As we ended the Q4, we believe the uncertain macro environment could have an impact on our core non prime consumer. While inflation had come down, student loan repayments had resumed, savings rates were low and credit card balances were high, creating an uncertain macro environment. Despite this, we saw strong and steady growth in gross originations during the Q4. Speaker 200:05:54And importantly, gross originations volume growth was achieved during the year in which our dynamic underwriting model, risk and controls led to an approval rate that was more than 400 basis points below our 2022 approval rate. This strength was driven by originations coming from our direct integrations as well as Catapult Pay. Within our direct channel, we believe we benefited from merchant advertising and discounting, which we leverage in our own marketing campaigns, driving better than expected increase in demand. This strength extended across our core retail categories included automotive, electronics, furniture and tires. In addition, we benefited from performance of new direct merchants such as Grown Brilliance and Exotic PC. Speaker 200:06:41Catapult Pay was an important driver as well during the quarter. 1st, customers continue to leverage the feature to originate new leases with more than 20 merchants that were available in our marketplace heading into the Q4. 2nd, this was a big driver of our performance. We added Walmart to our Catapult Pay marketplace sooner than we anticipated. We saw a very robust response from our customers and approximately 6% of the leases that originated in the Q4 were durable goods from Walmart. Speaker 200:07:12We believe this demonstrated our ability to drive demand by offering merchants our customer that our customers really want, and we are one step closer to transforming Catapult into a true shopping destination. Overall, we are reaping the benefits of our investments in our direct integration capabilities in Catapult Pay. Our goal is to leverage both these channels to grow our merchant base and overall consumer reach. Let's now dive into the progress we've made executing our merchant strategy, which are rooted in 3 key areas. 1, growing gross originations by integrating with new merchants 2, growing our market share with our anchor merchants and 3, offering ensuring that we offer the variety of durable goods our customers are looking to drive sustainable customer demand. Speaker 200:08:00I'll start with a few updates on direct integration. We are very pleased with the quality of the merchants that we've integrated during the quarter. To highlight a few merchants, 1st, Lenovo. While we've had the relationship with Lenovo since 2017, they opted to pursue a waterfall only process in 2021. Since that time, we worked with them to demonstrate that having a direct LTO option as well as a waterfall process fills a meaningful gap for consumer. Speaker 200:08:29As a result, we've added Lenovo back as a direct merchant during the Q4. They are already supporting us with marketing on their financing page, which includes Catapult as their only LTO option. We also launched Grown Brilliance during the quarter, as we announced in November last year. Customers have been embracing the brand and we are excited to have them on board during the engagement season. While some of you may not be familiar with ExoticPC, they are a PC company that crafts custom PCs and laptops for creators, gamers and professionals. Speaker 200:09:03They integrated our LTO option in the 4th quarter and so far our customers have been very engaged with their good. And finally, we also kicked off a direct relationship with Medmark, one of the most trusted names in medical equipment nationwide. Medmark has both online presence as well as brick and mortar stores, and we're excited to recognize them as one of our top 25 merchants during the Q4. Beyond our 4th quarter success stories, we believe we have a robust pipeline of direct integration opportunities that we can continue to steadily convert throughout 2024. But bringing on new direct merchants is only one part of our merchant growth strategy. Speaker 200:09:42We are focused on leveraging ways in which we can deepen relationships with merchants that are already on our platform. And we've successfully done it with Lenovo and are working with other merchants to market Catapult on their website and to get Catapult into the lead position versus other LTO operator. In addition, we're exploring new ways to leverage our data to help our merchants with their marketing efforts. For example, we piloting ways in which we can share the least amount that a customer has been preapproved to spend with our merchants. While protecting the data privacy of our consumers, we believe we can allow merchants to create a more targeted marketing effort to drive conversion. Speaker 200:10:24We have already seen these types of initiatives work well with our largest merchant partner Wayfair. Throughout 2023, we completed multiple rounds of testing to better understand how it can enhance the parts of our customer journey we directly control within the Wayfair's checkout flow. Our focus was on making sure we are doing a good job educating our consumers about our product and trying to ensure, for example, that customers fully understand pricing and terms and in an effort to remove friction, increase transparency and make their customer journey an even better experience. Our hard work with Wayfair paid off in 2023. For the full year, we grew Wayfair gross originations by 5.6%, which was faster than Wayfair's U. Speaker 200:11:08S. Sales growth for the full year, indicating we are continuing to take share with this important merchant partner. During 2023 applications for Wayfair leases grew by more than 4%, 5%. Further, same day take rate increased by approximately 2 10 basis points in 2023 and overall take rates expanded by 4.50 basis points. During our Q4, however, we saw some softness in our Wayfair gross originations and they are down slightly compared to 2022. Speaker 200:11:41We believe this softness was driven by a few factors, including seasonality. While furniture sales have not been historically a driver of Q4 holiday performance for us, we were able to improve our Wayfair business across several key metrics. Same day take rate at Wayfair grew 3.40 basis points in the Q4 and their overall take rate grew 3.70 basis points, which we believe shows that customers who receive a lease offer from us are engaged and ready to convert and that our efforts to provide customers with even more transparencies on their lease terms are bearing fruit. There is one more positive result that I'd like to highlight within our furniture category. Excluding Wayfair, gross originations grew 30% in the 4th quarter. Speaker 200:12:26This was driven in large part by the success we're seeing with 1 Stop Bedrooms, which we launched as a direct merchant in December 2022. Since then, we've also added a key user feature key user features such as a price calculator, which allow our customers to not only see the full price for the durable goods they are viewing, but also their weekly, monthly, etcetera payments would be if they use the LTO product. This tool also shows customers pricing should they choose to exercise an early purchase option. This has had a meaningful impact on volumes in the Q4. We are pleased with our traction in the furniture category generally and with our Wayfair partnership specifically. Speaker 200:13:10Wayfair and Catapult have mutually a mutually valued partnership and we're working hard to grow together by improving marketing and take rates while enhancing the technology behind our product to deliver an even better customer journey. As we look out into 2024, we believe we can leverage the lessons we learned from tailoring our product to fit the needs of Wayfair and its customers to drive growth again this year. And equally as important, we can take these lessons and continue to deploy them across the rest of our merchant base to drive growth. To complement the work we are doing with our merchants, we are also focused on attracting new customers and enhancing our product experience so that we can capture more wallet share from our existing customers. I'll talk about how we're doing this in a moment. Speaker 200:13:56The bottom line is our strategy is working. During 2023, total application volume grew 13% and we approved more than 600,000 new leases. This translated into about a 23% increase in the number of lease originations, approximately 15% growth in new customers. And as of December 31, 2023, we had approximately 19% more active customers than we did at the same time in 2022. At the same time, we continue to offer an experience that our customers love, resulting in 4th quarter customer repeat rate of almost 60%, which is an all time high for us. Speaker 200:14:36And with an NPS score of 52 as of December 31, we feel confident these data points underscore we are delivering a lease to own product that meets the needs of our customers across the U. S. So how are we doing this? We've already talked about how our robust portfolio directly integrated merchants is driving customer demand and how this is a steady part of our business that we expect to to continue to grow. But let's also talk about Catapult Pay. Speaker 200:15:04Catapult Pay is a feature on our app that leverages our virtual credit card technology, which is fueled by our proprietary AI and machine learning that allow us to determine what is leasable and what is not. This unique capability allows us to use Catapult Pay to conveniently shop for more than 20 merchants directly from our marketplace. Like our direct integration, Catapult Pay is a great business driver for merchants that gives them access to new and non prime customer population who, if not for our lease to own solution, might not have had the financial resources to purchase their durable goods. But unlike our direct integration, Catapult Pay allows us to onboard new merchants like Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, Home Depot and Target among others without requiring merchants to invest in a direct integration. In addition, Catapult Pay has allowed to create a consumer journey that starts in the Catapult mobile app. Speaker 200:16:02This means that consumers can start their transaction with Catapult specifically, and we have more visibility into our customer shopping habits and more control over our destiny. Currently, it's a tool that our existing customers are using most, but we can envision a future where Catapult Pay becomes a low cost customer acquisition channel for us. Our confidence is driven by several data points. First, Catapult Pay has become a trusted channel for customers to start a lease with us. As of December 31, more than 15 percent of our current leases were initiated through Catapult Pay. Speaker 200:16:382nd, this strong usage led to December being the best month ever for Catapult Pay. Nearly $10,000,000 in gross originations came through the feature during the month and $20,000,000 in gross originations came through Catapult Pay for the 4th quarter, representing 30% of our total originations for the quarter. For the full year 2023, $42,000,000 of gross originations were generated through Catapult Pay. 3rd, 14% of the leases that were initiated through Catapult Pay were from actually brand new customers in 2023. And finally, our app itself has become a terrific engagement tool and is the most used channel for our customers to access their lease information. Speaker 200:17:22In December, 63% of customer interactions with Catapult began in the app. Whether through Catapult Pay Merchant or a directly integrated merchant, these interactions started in our app. We ended 2020 with more than 500,000 app downloads, up from roughly 125,000 downloads in 2022. And we also had more than 200,000 unique users interact with the app. In short, we believe our app has created a customer experience that sets us apart from the competitive landscape. Speaker 200:17:55In addition to Catapult Pay, we continue to do a lot of testing and learning within marketing during the Q4. Similar to Catapult Pay, we believe marketing can help us drive customer demand independent of and in concert with our merchants. Throughout 2023, we put the structure and resources in place to allow us to begin scaling and marketing strategy focused on ROI positive consumer acquisition and reactivation. We grew our communication volume significantly with a 500% increase in the number of emails we sent in addition of SMS and push notification capability. As we increased our touch points with consumers, we also saw our open rates and click rates increase and we believe this indicates that our marketing campaigns are resonating. Speaker 200:18:42While we're being very prudent with our marketing spend, we continue to believe that our opportunity to build our market share within the underserved LTO industry is considerable. We will continue to test and learn and tie our marketing investment to strict ROI requirements. As a summary about our opportunity to grow our customer base, we feel good about the strong ecosystem we've built. We have direct merchant partners that deliver a steady stream of new and repeat customers. Catapult Pay is an important contributor to our strong repeat customer rates and has potential to blossom into a reliable low cost consumer acquisition channel. Speaker 200:19:21And finally, we have an emerging market strategy that can prudently scale to amplify growth in both of these channels over time. All this progress we're making is supported by the fundamental strength of our technology platform from our seamless direct integrations to get a decision back to a customer in an average of 5 seconds or less, to our underwriting algorithms that use personal information a customer has top of mind to our ability to autonomously onboard new merchants into Catapult Pay to testing and learning we're doing within our marketing strategy. All of this progress sits on the bedrock of our technology. We believe that our direct LTO option in Catapult Pay are creating sustainable competitive advantage that will help support our continued growth and keep us at the forefront of technology in our industry. In addition, our tech advantage has been built upon low cost, lean, nimble tech infrastructure that allows us to move quickly to scale new solutions and capitalize on growth opportunities that require tech ingenuity. Speaker 200:20:25For example, Catapult Pay is powered by proprietary models that determine if a durable good is leasable. These models allow us to onboard retailers like Walmart, which has a broad spectrum of products available for purchase, including many that are not eligible for an LTO transaction. Given the breadth and depth of their SKUs, without these technology driven models, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to bring market leading retailers like this to our customers. Looking across our competitive landscape, we believe our technology is unique and cutting edge. Last quarter, we talked a bit about generative AI and our opportunities to deploy it within our tech stack. Speaker 200:21:05We are excited to launch our first use case of generative AI in the Q4 to help us automate address validation. We created this tool to address the friction some customers were experiencing if there are minor differences in their addresses they provided and what was listed the merchant database. We can now use generative AI to quickly address what was previously a manual process to update eliminating a source of customer frustration. Beyond this, we're exploring ways to integrate generative AI further in Catapult Pay, marketing and other areas. Before I turn it over to Nancy, I want to provide a few thoughts on our focus areas for 2024. Speaker 200:21:44On the customer front, we understand that our customers are deal seekers, which is why we continue to focus on offering the best and transparent pricing and passing those savings on to our customers. We believe we offer the lowest pricing in the industry and we'll remain focused on giving our customers the value they need and the experience they deserve. As you know by now, our application process is the best in our competitive landscape. We make it easy for the customers to apply. We don't require bank account information, a lengthy credit history, and we never charge late fees ever. Speaker 200:22:19So in 2024, we expect to see our strategy continue to reflect our commitment to delivering value while fostering long term customer relationships. This approach not only sets us apart in the market, it also drives better performance for our business and significantly increases our retention rate. We are also dedicating effort to making it easier for customers to shop with us. We think that enhancing the shopping journey in our marketplace is another way we can control our destiny and help drive demand. One big area we're exploring is product based research, but product based search. Speaker 200:22:57Right now, customers have to start their searches at the retail level and we believe we can create options that consumers for consumers to shop directly for the actual durable goods they'd like to lease. We can make their experiences even better. In turn, this will help us better understand where the customer is in their journey and while they're shopping for what they're shopping for and eventually unlock our ability to do more targeted marketing. Regarding Catapult Pay, we are very pleased with the adoption rates and customer engagement. In 2024, we'll be exploring opportunities to both bring our new merchants that our customers want and further personalize the user experience with the aim of increasing conversion. Speaker 200:23:38To round out our customer focus in 2024, we believe we are well positioned to grow our customer base. There are multiple levers we believe we can pull, including continuing to execute our ROI focused marketing strategy, build out our other customer referral channels, including strategic partnerships and sustaining high customer repeat rates. Within our marketing strategy, we will continue to focus on making sure our customers can use our market leading LTO product to shop for all the durable goods they want and need. This means we'll focus on onboarding direct merchants that can help round out our shopping experience. We believe that our high repeat rate is a hallmark of a loyal and engaged customer base and we'll continue to look for ways to sustain this differentiator, which is compelling piece of our merchant value proposition. Speaker 200:24:28In 2024, we'll continue to look for opportunities to leverage our unique platform to solve merchant problems, opening up new growth channels for both Catapult and our merchant partners. We will also continue to look for opportunities to build new merchant referral pipelines such as the one we created in 2023 with Synchrony. And finally, we will also be looking at opportunities to further leverage our technology and proprietary data to grow our business. 1st, our technology and data insights will continue to be fundamental drivers of the customer and merchant focus areas I've outlined. 2nd, we want to look for ways that we can extend our data lead by integrating new resources that will allow us to capture even more underwriting and fraud signals that allow us to offer more leases to underserved customers. Speaker 200:25:16And while I won't go into too many specifics today, while from a big picture perspective, we are also exploring ways to leverage these competitive advantages to better monetize our growing customer base and create new revenue streams. With that, I'll turn it over to Nancy to discuss our 4th quarter results. Nancy? Speaker 300:25:34Thank you, Orlando. I'm excited to talk to you today about our strong 4th quarter results, which have added to our track record of growth. For 5 consecutive quarters, we have grown our gross originations year over year. And in the Q4, our revenue growth was 16.1%, which accelerated from the revenue growth rate we achieved in the 3rd quarter. We also reduced our write offs as a percent of revenue and with our focus on disciplined expense management, we delivered a $4,900,000 year over year improvement to adjusted EBITDA during the Q4. Speaker 300:26:06With that as context, let me provide you with some financial highlights for the Q4 and full year 2023. Before I discuss the rest of our P and L, I wanted to mention that we made out of period adjustments to correct immaterial errors related to cost of revenues and rental revenue in our P and L. This also impacted property held for lease and sales tax payable on our balance sheet. There will also be a $1,200,000 cash impact associated with sales tax payable. We have reflected these out of period adjustments in the adjusted EBITDA reconciliation table in our press release for your reference. Speaker 300:26:43The revenue write offs as a percent of revenue and adjusted EBITDA data that I'm about to present also reflect these adjustments. As I mentioned, we have now grown gross originations for 5 consecutive quarters. And as Orlando touched upon, our 4th quarter results came in significantly better than what we were expecting. Gross originations increased 13% to $67,500,000 Our performance was driven by strength with our existing merchants and our ability to onboard Walmart into Catapult Pay during the Q4 sooner than we expected. New and existing customers engaged with Walmart through Catapult Pay during the quarter, resulting in higher than expected gross originations. Speaker 300:27:27In addition to this driver, we also saw strong performance during the Cyber 5 period of the holiday season. Gross originations during this period grew double digits compared to the same period of 2022 and Catapult Pay was a key driver of this growth. For the full year 2023, we achieved gross originations of $226,600,000 up approximately 15%. While this headline number is a result we are very proud of, our business excluding Wayfair grew even faster during 2023. Excluding Wayfair, gross originations grew nearly 28%. Speaker 300:28:05While we are very pleased with our partnership with Wayfair, we are also pleased with our progress toward diversifying our sources of gross originations and revenue. For 2023, non Wayfair gross originations were 48 percent of our base, up from 43% in 2022. We believe this demonstrates that we can continue to leverage Wayfair to drive growth even as we diversify our gross origination base. During the quarter, 59.9% of our originations came from existing customers. This is an all time high for us and we believe this reflects our obsession with striving to give our customers the best experience we can at all times. Speaker 300:28:45For the full year, 54.2 percent of our originations came from existing customers. As we have discussed, we are continuing to see a large number of repeat approximately 29% of the time, these customers will generate a lease through Catapult Pay, be it their first, second or third, approximately 29% of the time, these customers will generate another lease within 60 days. We continue to believe that engagement with the app and our targeted marketing efforts are helping us drive our very strong repeat customer growth rate. Q4 revenue increased 16.1% to $56,700,000 exceeding the 13% to 15% growth outlook we provided last quarter. This performance reflects the trends driving gross originations, the volume performance we saw in the 1st 3 quarters of the year and strong collection efforts. Speaker 300:29:37For full year 2023, revenue grew about 5% compared with 2022. Write offs as a percent of lease revenue continued to improve and remained within our 8% to 10% target range. For the Q4, this metric was 9.6%, 10 basis points lower compared with 9.7% in Q4 2022. Moving on to profitability. Our disciplined approach to expense management coupled with our top line growth allowed us to deliver another quarter of substantial adjusted EBITDA growth. Speaker 300:30:12As a reminder, late in 2022, we instituted a number of cost savings measures and we are now at the tail end of anniversarying these benefits. Our 4th quarter total operating expenses were impacted by a $7,000,000 net expense we reported in connection with our negotiations to settle the 2 class action lawsuits that have been pending in New York and Delaware since 2021 2022 respectively. This may be satisfied with the combination of cash and shares. In addition, we have reported a $5,000,000 receivable for our insurance policy payment. In total, we reported a $12,000,000 liability in connection with a potential settlement. Speaker 300:30:54I should note that we have not yet and may not reach a settlement for these parties on these terms or at all. Further, any settlement agreement is subject to court approval by the Delaware and New York courts. Although the settlement negotiations are ongoing and not final, given the status of settlement talks, we are required under GAAP to accrue for the potential settlement. We will provide additional updates as appropriate in the future. During the Q4, our total operating expenses increased by 14.5%, primarily driven by the $7,000,000 net one time estimated litigation settlement expense. Speaker 300:31:32Excluding this expense, total OpEx for Q4 would have decreased by 27.8% year over year. For the full year, we reduced our total operating expenses by 8.5% year over year and excluding the one time estimated litigation settlement expense, full year 2023 op ed have decreased by 19%. Excluding underwriting fees and servicing costs, which are variable, the one time expenses related to our estimated legal settlement and depreciation and non cash stock compensation expense, our fixed cash operating expenses were $8,500,000 down 35.6% compared to last year. Based on our top line performance and the structural and sustainable benefits we are realizing from our operating efficiencies, were able to improve our year over year adjusted EBITDA performance for the 4th consecutive quarter. For the Q4, we recorded just below breakeven adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $4,900,000 compared to the $5,000,000 loss we reported in the Q4 of last year. Speaker 300:32:36As a reminder, expenses related to our estimated legal settlement are an add back to our adjusted EBITDA. For the full year 2023, our adjusted EBITDA loss was approximately $1,900,000 Excluding approximately $1,800,000 for immaterial out of period adjustment, we delivered adjusted EBITDA that was slightly below breakeven. This means that we delivered approximately $16,600,000 more in adjusted EBITDA compared to full year 2022. As of December 1, 2023, we had total cash and cash equivalents of $28,800,000 which includes $7,400,000 of restricted cash. We also had $60,700,000 of credit facility debt. Speaker 300:33:23During the Q4, we identified an issue with our 3rd party lease verification vendor. This issue led to Catapult over funding $9,600,000 in leases during the Q4 that should have been funded by our lending partner. This meant that our cash use should have been about $9,600,000 lower during the quarter and our debt should have been $9,600,000 higher. We corrected the issue in early 2024, recovered the cash and normalized our cash and debt levels. On an adjusted basis excluding this issue, we would have ended the quarter with total cash and cash equivalents of $38,400,000 which includes $7,400,000 of restricted cash. Speaker 300:34:04We would also have reflected $70,400,000 in outstanding debt on our credit facility on an adjusted basis. Let me explain the issue in more detail. We have a 3rd party lease verification vendor that verifies and then approves the new leases to be included in our borrowing base. In December 2023, this vendor had a timing error in their validation processes. This created a situation where a number of new leases each day were not validated and therefore were not added to our borrowing base. Speaker 300:34:35This in turn led to us funding these specific leases at 100% with our own cash instead of a 10%, which is our normal practice. Our credit facility provides a 90% advance rate for funding each valid lease. This issue only impacted Q4 and as I mentioned, we've already received the cash from the underfunding. In addition, once we alerted our lease verification vendor, together we implemented enhanced controls and processes to prevent this from recurring in the future. We are continuing to navigate an evolving macro environment. Speaker 300:35:08While inflation remains stable, it is still having an impact on the spending habits and budgets of our core target consumers. U. S. Retail traffic is down, interest rates while stable remain elevated, saving rates are low and credit card usage is high. Currently, it is unclear what impact these dynamics will have on prime lending standards and how they will affect the U. Speaker 300:35:29S. Consumers access to credit. We continue to believe that we have a large addressable market of underserved non prime consumers it's important to note that lease to own solutions have historically benefited when prime credit options become less available. Based on these dynamics and the operating plan in place for the full year 2024, we expect the following for the Q1. Year over year gross origination growth that is about flat compared with the Q1 of 2023, a 12% to 14% year over year increase in revenue, meaningful improvement in our adjusted EBITDA performance compared with the Q1 of last year, reflecting our revenue growth expectation and a sustained reduction of fixed cash operating expenses. Speaker 300:36:13Fixed cash operating expenses are expected to be down approximately 15% year over year in the Q1. As I mentioned earlier, we will anniversary the cost reduction activities we put in place last year and see a full year benefit in Q1 2024 versus only a partial benefit in Q1 2023. For full year 2024, we expect to continue to expand our customer base and acquire new customers, another year of gross originations growth. For the full year, we expect gross originations to grow at a rate of at least 10% and our Q1 performance should be the low point for the year. We also expect gross originations to improve sequentially in the second half of twenty twenty four compared to the first half of twenty twenty four, driven by growth in direct merchant originations and originations coming through Catapult Pay. Speaker 300:37:06Our outlook does not include any material impact from prime creditors tightening or loosening above us and it assumes that the macro environment does not change significantly. We also expect to maintain strong credit quality in our portfolio. This will be driven by ongoing enhancements to our risk modeling, onboarding high quality new merchants through direct integration and repeat customer engaging with Catapult Pay. Revenue growth is expected to be 10%, at least 10%. Finally, with the continued execution of our disciplined expense strategy combined with our growing top line, we expect to deliver another year of adjusted EBITDA growth. Speaker 300:37:46We also expect adjusted EBITDA to follow the seasonal patterns that we have seen historically. We delivered strong results during 2023 and we believe we are positioning the company for sustainable and profitable growth. Have multiple levers that we can pull to drive both gross originations and revenue, and we have built a lean infrastructure that does not require significant investment to support continued growth. Our strategy is clear and we believe our focus on providing our customers with the best in class LTO experience where terms are transparent and fair and our approach is human and compassionate will allow us to build market share and continue to expand the business. We are very proud of our 2023 performance. Speaker 300:38:29And with that, I'll turn it over to the operator for Q and A. Operator? Operator00:38:35Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Josh Sigler with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:39:14Yes. Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Nice to see the strong gross originations this quarter. Speaker 400:39:20I first wanted to touch on your guidance. So your guidance implies acceleration in originations as we progress through 2024. So to that end, I was wondering if you could comment a bit on your merchant pipeline and if you expect that acceleration can really be driven by new merchant adds or deepening penetration with existing merchants? Thanks. Speaker 200:39:41Hi, Josh. Thanks for the question. Our merchant pipeline continues to be robust. We're looking and we're having more meaningful conversations, obviously, with the retail environment, especially in January being what it was, obviously bringing incremental customers to these merchants is becoming more and more important than some of the issues that we had in the past like shipping constraints and things like that have gone away. So we're going to I would say we're in more of a normal operating standpoint with our merchants. Speaker 200:40:15The issue with the merchants is really getting through their tech stack and getting the integration completed. So we expect that some of the growth is going to come from new merchants that we've already identified in the pipeline. And but that most of the growth is coming from the growth in Catapult Pay as well as our current merchants and really continue to do what we've done with Wayfair with our other merchants to grow the business. Speaker 400:40:42Got it. That's helpful color. Thank you. And then I wanted to talk a little bit about reinvestment. So as we're progressing through 2024, how are you thinking about allocating incremental dollars towards either Catapult pay app or your more traditional lease to own model either integrated into the company's website or in store? Speaker 300:41:04So we continue to evaluate all investments based on the return that it's going to provide and deploying those investments where we think it will have the biggest and quickest impact. So whether that be continuing our marketing testing, whether that means continuing to invest in our technology, All of those are things that we're incorporating into the plan, but really using the return on investment as our basis for what we do and how quickly. We do have a scalable low cost tech stack that really gives us an advantage to be able to not have to make huge investments to continue to drive the business forward. Speaker 200:41:42Yes. And Josh, this is Orlando. I'll add. One of the things that we see in Catapult Pay is a strong customer performance from a returns perspective. And so obviously that we want to continue to grow that business. Speaker 200:41:56It doesn't mean we're not going to focus on direct. We really want to do both. And we think that we'll put investment dollars where we think it's important, but what's going to bring us the best return. Speaker 400:42:08Got it. Makes sense. Thank you. Operator00:42:14Our next question comes from the line of Anthony Chukumba with Loop Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:42:22Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a strong end to the year as well. I guess my first question, I was just a little confused. I thought you had preannounced your revenues and the revenue number that I saw today was I mean, unless I'm going crazy, which is entirely possible, was different from what I saw in your pre announcement. Speaker 500:42:41So I was just wondering if you can reconcile that? Speaker 300:42:44Sure. Hi, Anthony. It's Nancy. Thank you for the question. You are absolutely correct. Speaker 300:42:49We did preannounce 19% as a result of those one time out of period adjustments we needed to make, that impacted revenue as we indicated and that's purely the difference between what we pre announced and what we announced today. But still very pleased overall with not only the gross origination growth, but the revenue growth and with our continued outlook into 2024. Speaker 500:43:13Okay. Great to hear that. I'm not crazy. Speaker 300:43:16No, I'm not crazy. Speaker 500:43:18Okay. First off, do you think that there's going to be litigation? I mean, are you building into your guidance at all? And I guess most importantly, if let's just say that it holds up and late fees do get reduced, like what would be the impact on you, if any? Speaker 300:43:50Nothing. Speaker 600:43:51Yes. Hi, Anthony. This is Derek. I'll take that question. So what we see in terms of the changes to what's happening in the credit stack above us with prime credit cards and near prime credit cards and other financial products is that, anytime that there's a reduction in their financial returns that could create opportunity for us in terms of a change in their underwriting criteria or in change of their approval rates. Speaker 600:44:21So there is a potential there. However, we have not built that into any of our planning. In general, what we see is that consumers are savvy. They're looking for financial products and payment plans that are very transparent to them that they can understand the total cost. And so we take all of these insights and learnings as to what's happening and we implement them into our stance in terms of how we serve our customers. Speaker 600:44:48And we think we stand up well in terms of being very transparent and clear. And in general, we'll have to see how this all shrivels out. The last thing I'd say though is that consumer these partnerships in the prime space that we have have certainly heightened as different credit providers are looking for ways to increase their overall approval rate by having a waterfall partnership with someone like Catapult. So we saw that last year with partnerships that we already announced and we think that there's continued interest in partnering with Catapult to improve the overall options for merchants. Speaker 200:45:26And Anthony, this is Orlando. Thanks for the question. I just want to reiterate, we don't and we haven't for a number of years, we don't charge late fees. And so we're pretty proud of that because we try to work with our customers and they see that as advantage. I think that helps our repeat rate, but we're kind of ahead of the curve from a regulatory perspective if they start going down to lease to own. Speaker 500:45:49Right. And I was aware you guys didn't charge lease fees. I was just thinking more about the impact on the guys above you. But that's helpful. And then I guess just my last question. Speaker 500:46:01I just want to make sure Speaker 200:46:02I heard that Walmart number correctly. Speaker 500:46:04So you said Walmart accounted for 6% of your Q4. Was that total leases? Is that gross originations? Speaker 200:46:13What was that number exactly? Speaker 300:46:15It's total leases, not the gross origination dollars, total leases. Speaker 500:46:20Got it. Okay. Well, I mean that is a very Speaker 200:46:305. We had expected the tech team was trying to get it done before Cyber they were anticipating it to get done after Cyber 5. They exceeded expectations, got it done right before Cyber 5. And so really it's about 6 weeks worth of business in the Q4. And we were very, very happily surprised at the responses by our customers. Speaker 500:46:52Okay. And Orlando, just one last thing, because I am a boomer. Cyberfib, we're talking about the week before Thanksgiving, right? Speaker 200:47:03Yes. That's the Thanksgiving, the 5 days. Speaker 300:47:07Starting Thanksgiving. Speaker 200:47:07Starting Thanksgiving. So it's Speaker 300:47:08Thursday, Friday going through Cyber Monday. Speaker 500:47:12Got it. You learn something new every day when you're a boomer. Thanks, Scott. Speaker 300:47:17Thank you. Operator00:47:23Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to CEO, Orlando Zayas for closing comments. Speaker 200:47:34I just want to reiterate how proud I am of our team. We had a great year. We delivered top line growth during a time when our competitors declined. We grew while adhering to our disciplined expense management philosophy. We believe we are well positioned to build on the success of 2023 and we are looking forward to extending our track record of growth this year. Speaker 200:47:54To everyone listening, thank you very much for tuning in to hear about the progress we've made over the past year. We are proving our ability to grow while providing our customers with fair, transparent and accessible lease to own products and our merchants with a growth channel that has much potential. Thank you again for your support and the interest in our story. Operator00:48:18This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by