PureCycle Technologies Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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March 6, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Pure Cycle Technologies 4th Quarter 20 23 Corporate Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Christian Breuwie, Corporate Communications Manager. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

All right. Thank you, Didi. Welcome to Pure Cycle Technologies' 4th quarter fiscal year ended 2023 corporate update conference call. I am Christian Bruey, Manager of Corporate Communications for Pure Cycle. And joining me on the call today are Dustin Olson, our Chief Executive Officer and Jamie Vasquez, our Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker 1

This morning, we will be highlighting our corporate developments for the Q4 fiscal year ended 2023. The presentation we'll be going through on this call can also be found on the Investors tab at our website at purecycle.com. Many of the statements made today will be forward looking and are based on management's beliefs and assumptions and information currently available to management at this time. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, many of which may be beyond our control, including those set forth in our Safe Harbor provisions and forward looking statements that can be found at the end of our Q4 2023 corporate update press release filed yesterday and our annual report on Form 10 ks filed this morning, as well as in other reports on file with the SEC that provides further detail about the risks related to our business. Additionally, please note that the company's actual results may differ materially from those anticipated, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statement.

Speaker 1

Our remarks today may also include preliminary non GAAP estimates and are subject to risks and uncertainties, including among other things, changes in connection with quarter end and year end adjustments. Any variation between Pure Cycle's actual results and the preliminary financial data set for year end may be material. You are welcome to follow along with our slide deck or joining us by phone, you can access it at any time on purecycle.com. We are excited to share updates from the previous quarter with you. I will now turn it over to Dustin Olson, Pure Cycle's Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker 1

Dustin?

Speaker 2

It's a pleasure to join you today. We are in Ironton, Ohio this morning and excited to share our results. However, I would like start the call by introducing our new CFO, Jamie Baskins. Jamie's resume is deep. He comes with a lot of relevant experience and he is already adding value.

Speaker 2

Jamie, if you'd like to introduce yourself, the floor is yours.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Justin. Well, I'm certainly excited to be here and working with a very talented and dedicated team.

Speaker 2

And I've been very impressed with the collaboration,

Speaker 3

the thought processes and the execution of critical items that I've seen in

Speaker 2

my 1st 3 weeks of Pure Cycle.

Speaker 3

And I believe that my 30 years of experience in various financial roles, public and industrial companies will complement this talented team. And I look forward to talking with many of you on the phone near term.

Speaker 2

Thank you for the introduction, Jamie. But more importantly, thank you for putting the jersey on and joining our team. I can tell you that I'm very excited to have Jamie on our team. He comes to Pure Cycle with years of experience, a wealth of core financial expertise and has navigated multiple dynamic business environments in prior services. Jamie will bring a balanced point of view to our core decision making process that will help us deliver strong business results.

Speaker 2

It's been a pleasure getting to know Jamie over the last few weeks and I'm looking forward to the next years of partnership. This was a busy quarter for Ironton operations. After the screen changer installation, for the first time, we've been able to establish greater end to end production where we can monitor the entire process working together. We are starting to see tangible progress across all operations. We have focused exclusively on PCR grade feedstock since the November outage, which has enabled us to final commission all aspects of the operation.

Speaker 2

While it has only been 2 months of running without bead contaminations, we've already achieved numerous production milestones up to approximately £8,000 per hour of end to end processing, successful production of co product 12, pelletizing that reached rates between £9,000 10,000 per hour and successful loading of numerous railcars with pellets. And we have done all of this while consuming significantly less utilities than originally estimated. The most important metric is our end to end production. This means that we run feed extruders at £8,000 an hour, process the feed through the entire plant, produce both co product 1 and co product 2 and pelletize the resulting product at the end of the plant. Is previously not possible as we ran into lengthy B plugging issues.

Speaker 2

The best part of the new phase was watching the production of co product 12. I still believe there is no greater example of our process working than by seeing the production of these co products. Remember, while our job is to make ultra pure recycled resin, we do it by removing contaminants. Therefore, it is in fact critical to remove CP1 and CP2 in order for us to make our final product. On the commercial front, we're also starting to see momentum.

Speaker 2

We achieved our first revenue through sales in Q4 and began sampling our product to customers for final application approval. Initial results are positive and we expect this progress to continue. As we prepare for the rest of 2024, we intend to execute a 2 to 4 week outage in early Q2 to advance several reliability improvements. This small pause in production should help position the facility for stronger reliability. We're now entering a new phase for Pure Cycle.

Speaker 2

We've commissioned the plant, identified areas where we have opportunities and are now transitioning into traditional manufacturing processes, improving reliability, optimizing the process and driving day to day improvements. We will focus on our core operations in order to achieve higher continuous plant rates and drive more consistent product quality so we can deliver a superior product to customers. While our progress was good over the past 6 to 12 months, the pace of progress was limited by 2 critical challenges, seal failures and absorbent bed leaks. Both of these events took significant time to diagnose and solve, but more importantly, it lengthened our learning curve. There were certain aspects of the operation that remained untested until we could establish continuous end to end operations.

Speaker 2

The last 2 months have been different. Running in this operational mode allowed us to test a wider range of PCR feedstocks, each of which had its own unique characteristics, rate test the plant to operational boundaries of each feedstock. Feedstocks have widely varied characteristics that require process optimization. These include differences like high and low melt flow indices, high and low concentrations of co product 12 and many other minor behaviors that impact the optimization of the plant. It also allowed us to develop better solvent purification expertise.

Speaker 2

While we learn how to run this commercial scale facility, we are also proving our ability to solve new challenges every day. And in doing so, we're learning how to operate this plant more and more reliably every day. Ultimately, our success has been defined by how quickly we integrate learnings into our operations. There is no doubt that we will face new challenges with each new operational tier, but this is normal with normal manufacturing operations and we have the right team in place to solve the next challenge and achieve our goals. Our metrics are not where we want them to be today, but they are getting better.

Speaker 2

We've seen quarter over quarter progress on many of our key metrics. Our pellet production has increased 5 times from £200,000 to £1,300,000 with a single day feed record of £102,000 and a single day pelletization record of £144,000 Our purge rates are 1 third of last quarter from 70% to 22%. Purging is a technical term that means our intruders are not running efficiently. We steady and reliable increases in CP1 and CP2 production levels. In fact, after implementing reliability improvements in January, our CP2 production increased from £16,000 to £48,000 from January to February.

Speaker 2

We've now exclusively run on PCR since November outage and we've tested numerous new feedstocks, both produced internally and produced externally. And our core support operations are reaching stronger reliability levels. Steam availability is at 99.8% in Q1 and our solvent circulation reliability has increased from 71% to 98% in Q1. Our overall uptime has been variable, but our daily production performance when not impacted by reliability problems has been stronger. We continue to focus on implementing incremental reliability improvements as well as expect a stepwise improvement when following the planned outage.

Speaker 2

The metrics are improving every day and we let data guide our actions, shape our behaviors and help us get better. We aren't satisfied with where we are, but our team will not slow down. Our team is excited about the future, not just because of the tangible progress, but also because of the learned enhancements that we are applying to our base design. We are planning a small 2 to 4 week outage in Q2 that we expect will make significant impact positive impact to our operational performance. During this outage, we intend to tackle several key areas.

Speaker 2

During the July November outages, we implemented several key improvements. During this upcoming outage, we will make further improvements to improve the extraction efficiency and therefore also to improve the recovery of co product 1. The co product 2 discussion has already been disclosed publicly and we will discuss more later, but our efforts here are important work toward improving the settling performance and set the stage for CP2 removal. Our filtration has been a reliability challenge. During Q1, it limited uptime, which impacted rates.

Speaker 2

It forced us to stop and start operations many times. However, we were able to install bypass line which improved uptime, but we will need to spend more time during the outage cleaning the system in order to reset operations back to baseline. Seals have been a consistent discussion and consistent challenge. We have already implemented several system upgrades and improved operational monitoring, which are providing improved performance. But in order to achieve the desired long term results, we will need to continue to upgrade key seals across our facility.

Speaker 2

This process will not be completed during the outage and will likely require additional activity in the future. Our digital foundation is very good. We have a platform that should enable us to reap long term benefits across the entire digital ecosystem. However, it has also been temperamental. We've worked through hundreds of improved programming glitches and while it doesn't cost much to fix and is still getting better, still the impact to uptime has been a challenge.

Speaker 2

We have a talented digital team and we will continue to learn and improve and all of the learnings are directly applicable to future growth projects. Co product 2 is the principal limitation at the current time. We can run feed through the system, purified through extraction and make co product 1, settle in the process and make co product 2 and pelletize the product. These fundamental processes work. However, the capacity to remove CP2 out of the system is limited.

Speaker 2

It's not impacting our ability to make CP2, it's limiting our ability to purge CP2 from the system. And ultimately, this limitation restricts the amount of rate we can push through the facility. We originally expected to only make the granular variety of CP2, but over the last 2 months as we begun to run the plant with a variety of feedstocks, we started making lower density foam and higher density logs, which we call dinosaur bones in the process. This variation ultimately conflicts with the original design and limits our ability to remove it from the system efficiently. We have several short term solutions in mind.

Speaker 2

1st, we will continue to remove CP2 manually through the trades at approximately £3,000 to £7,000 per day. 2nd, we will continue to purchase lower CP2 feedstocks, so we can raise feed rates in the current removal capacity. And third, we are investigating a small project to flake sort the material produced from the prep wet line so more post consumer curbside material can be processed. For the longer term solution, we are using commercial data to design a more robust continuous operational asset. We have already started the early stage construction and design work and intend to make critical tie ins during the Q2 outage.

Speaker 2

Ultimately, our team is working to optimize the short term options in order to bridge to a longer term solution. The change will take time and the final implementation should occur just after the Q2 outage is completed. We do not expect the final implementation to impact plant production as the critical time points will be installed during the outage. Our operations are improving. It is a grind at times, but our team is unwavering in their pursuit to run the facility efficiently, reliably and consistently.

Speaker 2

It will take time, but we are making positive strides every day. We are driven by the mission. We have purpose in our every effort and we feel good about the impact that we're making around the world. As we build to strong operations, we also see key unit economics trending positively. Granted, there are both positives and negatives when comparing our unit economics to earlier estimates 3 to 5 years ago, but we believe the net impact is positive.

Speaker 2

For revenue, we see stronger demand for our product than we originally expected and a shorter supply of good quality competition. This is true for both Pure5 as well as other higher color variants. For energy, we see lower consumption of energy than originally expected. For what we used to call waste, we now call co products. There is genuine interest in the alternative applications for this product, which is shifting a former $0.04 per pound cost into a current revenue stream.

Speaker 2

Offsetting the positives, we also have higher than expected feedstock logistics cost and higher than expected SG and A cost. But the net impact is positive and as reliability continues to improve, the economics will follow. We are so proud of our energy performance. It serves the business and shareholders with 2 key messages. 1, our overall variable cost should be lower and is expected to reduce electricity and natural gas usage.

Speaker 2

This should result in a $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 per year utility savings to the business. But what we're even more excited about is the impact on the environment. The improved energy performance should reduce our overall carbon footprint. This means, 1, it should take less than half of the carbon to make our product as opposed to other produced fossil based equivalents. Our customers can show their sustainable product more confidently can showcase their sustainable product more confidently to the market.

Speaker 2

And finally, final customers can feel good again about the plastic that they are purchasing. We still have more work to do and these are early estimates that should be validated externally soon, but the early data looks really good. This is important for our customer base. It further differentiates us from the competition and ultimately improves the value proposition for sales. The net result is very positive for our business, for our customers, but most importantly for our planet.

Speaker 2

The market feedback for our product is positive because we are producing a true plastic to plastic solution with benefits that other technology do not provide. Remember, most chemical recycling technologies deliver a plastic to fuel solution with low yield. And most mechanical recycling technologies blend the feedstock into the process with limited ability to remove internal contaminants. Our technology is the only commercial option that has the ability to offer customers a true plastic to plastic solution with high yield, high quality and a low carbon footprint. We have made product out of both PIR and PCR and while various pellet productions have varied with color, even the higher color variants have strong demand due to superior mechanical processing properties.

Speaker 2

While our goal will always be to improve the product consistency and quality across the feedstock slate, the reality is the end customer appetite for recycled material coupled with a significant undersupply of quality product is creating strong demand for PureCycle's product. The initial product testing is truly exciting for our team. We are testing commercial products across many customers to gain approval for the long term commercial supply. I want to highlight one specific application, fiber. Fiber is produced when polypropylene is melted and stretched into long strands.

Speaker 2

You can visually imagine it like it's dental floss. This is used in many, many, many applications, textiles, apparel like watch bands, rugs, carpet, clothing. It can even be molded into semi rigid parts to provide additional strength. That's all very good, but it's not the best part of the story. Making fiber from fossil based PP is among the most difficult manufacturing applications in the polypropylene industry.

Speaker 2

You can imagine 100 of continuous yards of individual long strands of this product flying through the facility at high rates and through many highly sophisticated pieces of equipment. And then you can also imagine the challenges that emerge when a single strand breaks during the production process. This application is extremely difficult for traditional polypropylene recycling products because most of these products still have CP1 and CP2 in the mixture. The varying levels of contaminants when stretched to the surface caused the strands to break. The industry has not been successful when running PP fiber with a recycled feedstock.

Speaker 2

I'm very proud to show a school of polypropylene fiber that was successfully made from our purified material and applications that will come from this production. This is yet another strong proof point that our product quality is superior and even in the most difficult applications and is a reasonable replacement for fossil based alternatives. Another exciting step with the respect to the product development involves the collaboration between PureZero program and our relationship with Churchill Containers. Churchill Containers is a leader in manufactured service where and a key application lane involves the production of stadium cups to venues all over the nation. Through the partnership, Churchill has manufactured stadium cups out of our commercially produced EPR resin at the Ironton facility.

Speaker 2

We expect our PureZero partners to have these cups serving beverages of choice in the stadiums in the future. This is true circularity. The opportunity to partner the opportunity to team with our PureZero partners and Churchill to create a true plastic to plastic circularity change is exactly what the world is looking for in our industry. The path for Ironton is clear and we believe we are on the right path. We will continue to focus on our operations here to achieve higher continuous plant rates, drive more consistent product quality, continue to improve our product to customers to make final commercial qualifications and efficiently execute the Q2 outage.

Speaker 2

While today's focus is mostly Ironton, we want you to know that we are still working diligently with our partners to prepare our growth path. Each project is in a slightly different position, but also have the primary focus, integrate Ironton learnings into the CapEx plan, find efficiencies to reduce the overall project stack, prepare the engineering to ensure strong project deliveries. These efforts combined with the improved unit economics should result in strong projects with reliable cost and scheduled performance and excellent returns. At this point, I turn over the presentation to Jamie Vasquez to provide a financial update.

Speaker 3

Well, thank you, Justin. We have a few financial highlights starting on Slide 16, which shows the change in unrestricted and restricted cash from the end of the Q3 to the end of the Q4. As you can see, unrestricted cash declined by just under $90,000,000 during that period. The single largest driver of the change was a $50,000,000 increase in the general liquidity reserve. This was required as part of the 2nd amendment to the Ironton revenue bond indenture that was executed in early November of 2023.

Speaker 3

Operating and corporate related expenses were $27,500,000 for the 4th quarter and adjusted for severance, which was associated with our previously announced December reduction in force and the timing of certain payments, this level of expense was in line with expectations and the 3rd quarter. Turning to Slide 17, which is not a 4th quarter event, but a very important action that occurred this week and the reason we are highlighting it in our Q4 discussion. On March 5, we purchased just around 99% of the $249,000,000 Southern Ohio Port Authority Revenue Bonds. This was an important step as it virtually removed all restrictive covenants, which allows us to better focus on working through operational startup challenges by finding solutions that are best long term for the Ironton operations as opposed to running the plant to meet short term volume goals and other short term milestones. Additionally, the purchase of the bond should provide accrued cash cycles for the company as we become commercialized through the termination of the operating revenue escrow account.

Speaker 3

And we do not retire the revenue bonds, so that gives us the potential to remarket revenue bonds opportunistically, which we believe remain attractive given its tax free status and first priority lien on a valuable asset. On Slide 18, we show a pro form a change in liquidity as a result of the bond purchase using our year end 'twenty three liquidity position. You can see that the purchase included the use of $74,500,000 of unrestricted cash and just under $185,000,000 of restricted funds or nearly 75% of the total issue that were in revenue bond escrow accounts. And again, we have the opportunity to improve liquidity through the remarketing of the revenue bonds. In addition, we're also working to obtain the release of funds still held in escrow, including a pro rata share of the debt service fund for the bonds that were purchased.

Speaker 3

This could potentially free up about $20,000,000 of liquidity. Lastly, we increased the line of credit from $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 to rebuild some of the liquidity post the bond repurchase. Now I'll turn it back to Dustin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jamie. We are excited about the progress we have achieved this quarter. We successfully produced end to end production runs across the core purification assets and achieved £8,000 per hour rates. We produced significant quantities of Coproduct 1 and Coproduct 2 at the commercial scale and successfully implemented a series of small projects to improve our month over month production of Coproduct 2. We have delivered commercial grade samples to our customers for final application approval and received strong feedback on the product quality.

Speaker 2

We repurchased almost all of their irons in revenue bonds, which should provide a mechanism for additional liquidity. And we are prepping for a Q2 outage that we expect to transform the reliability of our operations. At this time, I would like to hand over to our moderator for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. And our first question comes from Gerry Sweeney of Roth MKM.

Speaker 4

Good morning, Justin and Jamie. Jamie, welcome aboard. Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Jerry. Thanks for the call. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 4

Hey, listen, just starting with CP2, obviously, this sounds like this is the sort of the bigger bottleneck that you're working on. On. As you're looking at the engineering challenges around this, how difficult is it to engineer around this? I know you went into a little bit of detail on the call, but it sounds like as though it's a multi step process. But overall, how challenging do you think it will be to complete this?

Speaker 2

Yes, that's a good question, Jerry. I mean, look, the good news is that we are producing CP1 CP2 in the process. I mean, the very fact that we're producing the CP2 and it's getting to the bottom of our system is a proof positive that the core technology works. We've had several challenges like this across other areas. We've always successfully been able to work through them.

Speaker 2

This is not unique when bringing new tech to the market. With respect to the CP2 in particular, it's a challenging technical problem, but we think that we have a good design solution in place. And we think that we'll have a good development of that in Q2.

Speaker 4

Got it. And then alternatively, you discussed getting pursuing, I think, some feedstock that had less of a CP2 content to it. Admittedly, I'm not sure exactly what the co product 2 is, but does that sort of supply chain or ability to go out and get material PCR waste with lower CP2 content, is that a challenge, more expensive or how do we think about that?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, so the CP2 that we're primarily discussing is polyethylene. When you are harvesting polypropylene feedstocks from the market, the bales will come with varying levels of polyethylene contamination inside. And so the higher the polyethylene in the bale, then the higher the CP2 removal required. And so what we're doing now is really attacking it from multiple angles.

Speaker 2

One is looking for already available products that are out there that we can purchase and they come at various price points. We think they all still make sense inside of our purification economics. But we're also improving the operation of the current CP2 removal and we're looking to a small project to effectively sort the polyethylene out of our process prep material, so that we can reduce the amount of CP2 that we put into the feed.

Speaker 4

Got it. I mean, but suffice to say there's enough raw material CP2 waste with CP2 characteristics that are good for you out there that you can obtain?

Speaker 2

We believe so. I mean, we've got a pretty good feedstock network now. We're always turning over new rocks to find new supply sources. And as we tested through the purification plant, we find newer and newer opportunities to bring new feedstocks in. So we don't expect this to be a long term constraint.

Speaker 4

Got it. Super helpful. And then just what should we be thinking about SG and A? The one thing that caught me off a little bit off guard and I'm just not sure if it's a change in reporting it. R and D was up.

Speaker 4

I think SG and A was something like $29,000,000 don't hold me to that for the quarter. But just and obviously lots of noise in the Q4. What would be a good type of idea of run rate for SG and A, if you would? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So when we're talking about SG and A around the unit economics, we're specifically talking about the portion of corporate overhead that is specifically used to support Ironton operations. And we show that to be a bit higher than the estimates that we had 3 to 5 years ago. You can understand why that happened given the volatility and inflation across the world over the last several years. That's the primary reason.

Speaker 2

With respect to the overall corporate SG and A, this is an area consistent focus. We're always looking for ways to optimize our overall cost position. That's just good business sense and something that we pay attention to routinely.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's it. I'll jump back in line. I'm sure there's a bunch of other questions. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4

I'll see you guys tomorrow as well.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Jerry. We look forward to seeing you tomorrow.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Eric Stine of Craig Hallum.

Speaker 5

Hi, Dustin. Hi, Jamie.

Speaker 2

Hey, Eric. How are you doing?

Speaker 5

Hey, doing well. Doing well. Thanks. So I'm curious, could you just talk a little bit about the off takers at Ironton? I know you in the past and I get it, don't disclose a lot about specific contracts.

Speaker 5

But just curious, are there dates embedded in these offtake agreements that if you don't reach them, either the customers can get out of the contract or renegotiate the contract? Just trying to get at kind of where the customer or the ultimate off takers' patience levels are, given that Ironton has taken longer than you would have liked, certainly longer than the customers would have liked as well?

Speaker 2

Yes, look, we don't see any concern there. We've got very strong demand for the product and all of our core customers are still there testing commercial scale products right now for the final application and ready to receive the volume at scale. Additionally, remember, we've got a pretty good portfolio of customers with the Augusta project and many of them are also interested in taking early material from Ironton in order to jump start the sales process for them out of Augusta.

Speaker 5

Got it. So I guess the follow-up there is it really hasn't impacted prospects at future plants as well. I mean, I know you're obviously planned for it to help you in terms of building those plants, but it's not hurting you at all with potential customers?

Speaker 2

No, no. In fact, I would say it is just the opposite. I mean, the commercial product that we produce off of Viretind has accelerated the appetite for our product. We have a lot of new customers that are testing our product through the Formera contract and through our distribution channel. And the results that they see are very positive.

Speaker 2

And so that brings them back to us very quickly for, let's say, new customer sales inside of the already strong portfolio.

Speaker 5

Got it. Good to hear on that. And maybe just to confirm something and then a question. So did you say so I know in Q4 you produced £200,000 of pellets. And did you say, I think it was £1,300,000 Just curious is that quarter to date, I mean, is that a cumulative number?

Speaker 5

I guess that would be first.

Speaker 2

Yes. The production number is quarter to date. I believe it is let me grab a number here. It's quarter to date. Yes, the $1,200,000 is quarter to date.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then I guess the follow-up, great news that you no longer have to meet the milestones as dictated.

Speaker 2

Eric, just to clarify one portion of your question. You mentioned 1.3, but the slide showed 1.1. So it's £1,900,000 quarter to date.

Speaker 5

Okay, got it. All right. And I guess I was just going to say that the it's good that you don't have to meet the milestones by specific dates that were dictated under the bondholder agreement. But just curious, I mean, where you stand now, how you feel in terms of, I mean, you're still obviously shooting for those milestones on the way to ultimate commercial production or at levels that would be at scale. So maybe, I mean, do you have or are you willing to share when you think you might be at that, I think, 4,500,000 pound level on the way to the 9,000,000?

Speaker 5

And I think in there, you've also got that a 7 day continuous production goal as part of that?

Speaker 2

Yes. As you can imagine, when you're starting up a new technology, running the equipment for the first time, predicting the S curve for the production is very difficult, okay. Our focus is less about hitting specific milestones and more about incrementally getting better every day. We will see continued improvement across the production every day and at times we'll see step change improvements. We view the outage that we had planned in Q2 as a pretty important moment for us because as we've run continuously over the last couple of months, we found new items that we need to address.

Speaker 2

We've engineered them, we're ready to implement them and we know that they'll make improvements to our operation after the outage. So one of the things with the bond that was challenging was so focused on the milestone that sometimes you took your focus off of the fundamentals that gets you there. We're now very focused on building the right foundation for the plant, so we can build the long term productivity of the facility.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.

Speaker 1

We did invite questions in our press releases. This is Christian Rui again. Via our email investorquestionspurecycle.com and we wanted to to a few of those. The first one is from Vishal Baxi at Morgan Stanley. Dustin, on your previous updates, you mentioned that you ran various feedstocks to test the limits of your technology.

Speaker 1

Following the co product toothpick, you're planning in Q2, how confident are you that you can run many different feedstocks? Or do you anticipate long term challenges on availability if you will be limited in your inputs?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you for the question, Vishal. I think it's really important to remember the scale of the opportunity that we are engaging in here. There are literally 1,000,000,000 of pounds of feeds available. We've already run the key feeds for Iritan, which is traditionally raffia as well as post consumer curbside rigids and they've run successfully.

Speaker 2

So I'm not at all concerned about the availability of feed. There's plenty of feed to fill Ironton with those 2 key streams alone. But I also think it's important to remind you that our technology gives us the ability to buy what others cannot because we have a fundamental process that washes the molecule from the inside out, we can buy things that others can't. And so I think there's always going to be a cycle of testing around the feedstocks, so we can find newer and newer feeds that provide newer economic opportunities for us. But in terms of the base load for Ironton and Augusta in our early projects, I think we have ample feed to

Speaker 1

do what we need to do. The next question we received was from James Graham. You mentioned sampling, but have any actual products been made from the resin produced at the commercial plant? And if so, what are they?

Speaker 2

Yes. So I think it's important to walk through the process for qualifying projects across plants like this. We have made actual products. You can see those in the earnings packet. They have not been made at commercial scale yet because the first step is to test them in the operations to see how they run before we start allocating larger volumes to that operation.

Speaker 2

Once they pass the initial testing, then they'll get scaled up for commercial sales. And we're doing this across a number of fronts with a number of customers.

Speaker 1

The next one is from Spencer Moore. Is the screen changer still necessary if you've successfully purged the beads from the system?

Speaker 2

Yes, probably not, but maybe a little. Remember, there are really 2 purposes for the screen changer. The first is to remove the initial beads that contaminated the system. And I must say that following the outage in November, we were able to do that, do it successfully. It did take longer than we expected because there are higher number of beads in the system than what we thought, but that allowed us to get back on our feet.

Speaker 2

But once the beads are gone, there's still going to be an opportunity for us to use the screen changer to as like a final filtration step for the product and that very often has a positive impact on color and opacity.

Speaker 1

There were two questions that came in from John David. The first one, what is the latest on the Augusta site?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, we're really excited about our path for Augusta. We've really taken a step back and reset our base engineering through the collaboration with KBR. They are turning out to be a really good thought partner for us on how to better engineer our base facilities. We're also integrating the learnings that we've taken from Ironton into that design.

Speaker 2

And don't forget, we've already spent a sizable amount of money around $85,000,000 in pre construction engineering and long lead purchases. So that project is very much still moving forward. Second question from John was, has

Speaker 1

the expected market price for Pure Cycles resin changed since it was discussed in 2023?

Speaker 2

Yes. Look, I think that the market pricing is a very dynamic discussion. We'll probably not talk too specifically about pricing levels for the Pure Cycle product. I think what's important to note is that there's very strong customer demand across many application lanes. Even with Ironton and Augusta at max rates, it still only represents a small fraction of production and a small portion of sustainability commitments from even just our core customers.

Speaker 2

So we see a lot of runway here. We haven't tested the full market. We will do so as we continue to test new applications to our process.

Speaker 1

Final e mail question comes from Michael Grasso. Given the increased production and the commentary around high demand for the product, what is the revenue outlook for Q1 2020? Well,

Speaker 3

we're very optimistic about the future fundamentals of the business. And I think coming out of the Q2 outage, that optimism is going to continue. But we don't want to set the precedent right now of providing mid quarter guidance. But I think the important thing is, as Dustin said in the presentation, the original economics, we feel very good about.

Speaker 1

That is all of the e mail questions. I will toss it back over

Operator

to Actually, I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to hand it back to Dustin Olson.

Speaker 2

Look, thank you for everyone's time today and dedicating your special time to our business and to our operations. This is a very important week for Pure Cycle and quite frankly, I've never been more excited about our progress, our potential and our future. Thank you for your time today, for believing in the mission of Pure Cycle and our team. We look forward to seeing you tomorrow at our Ironton Showcase Day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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