Taseko Mines Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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March 8, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning. My name is Ina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the CECO's 2023 4th Quarter and Year End Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. Mr. Bergo, you may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Ina. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining Taseko's Q4 and full year 2023 conference call. The news release and regulatory filing announcing our financial and operational results was issued yesterday after market close. It is available on our website at tasekomines.com as well as on SEDAR. I am joined today in Vancouver by Taseko's President and CEO, Stuart McDonald Taseko's Chief Financial Officer, Bryce Hamming and our COO, Richard Tremblay.

Speaker 1

As usual, before we get into opening remarks by management, I would like to remind our listeners that our comments and answers to your questions will contain forward looking information. This information by its nature is subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause the stated outcome to differ materially from the actual outcome. For further information on these risks and uncertainties, I encourage you to read the cautionary note that accompanies our Q4 MD and A and the related news release as well as the risk factors particular to our company. I would also like to point out that we will use various non GAAP measures during the call. You can find explanations and reconciliations regarding these measures in the related news release.

Speaker 1

And finally, all dollar amounts we will discuss today are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise specified. Following opening remarks, we will open the phone lines to analysts and investors for questions. I would now turn the call over to Stuart for his remarks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brian. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us for Taseko's year end and Q4 earnings call. It's definitely an exciting and busy time for our company. And today, I can provide an update on recent Gibraltar results and also Florence construction activities. I'll then pass the call over to Bryce for some additional detail on the financials and financial results and our recent financing initiatives at Florence.

Speaker 2

But let's start with Gibraltar as Q4 was another strong production quarter and a great finish to the year. The mine produced £34,000,000 of copper on average grades of 0.27%. It's a great result and we definitely benefited from the higher grade, higher quality ore in the bottom of the Gibraltar pit. Actually the result could have even been better if not for slightly lower mill throughput, which averaged 83,000 tonnes per day, a slightly below plan due to lower mill availabilities in the quarter as we prepared for the scheduled maintenance in January. With a strong production and a higher capital strip allocation led to lower unit operating costs.

Speaker 2

C1 cash costs for the 4th quarter were $1.91 a pound. Looking at the year as a whole, Gibraltar produced £123,000,000 at a C1 cost of £2.37 a pound. That production number is a significant increase over 2022 and also above our annual guidance. Certainly, 2023 was a tale of 2 halves with lower grades in the first half and higher production in the second half. But for the full year, Copperhead grade averaged 0.25%, which is right in line with our reserve grade.

Speaker 2

And with that, we're able to generate $190,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. That's indicative of what the mine can achieve in an average year with a realized copper price of $3.84 per pound. And it really bodes well for the coming years where we expect higher pricing. For 2024, the Gibraltar pit will continue to be the main source of mill feed until the middle of the year when we transition to the connector pit where we've been stripping now for over a year. We expect a smooth transition to the new connector pit, which will then be the main source of mill feed for the next 5 years.

Speaker 2

We previously disclosed 2 mill downtimes that are going to impact production in 2024. We've already completed one of those, a major component replacement of Mill Number 2, which was planned to be a 2 week down and we successfully completed that ahead of schedule in January. The capital cost of the new mill equipment should be covered by insurance and we're also pursuing an insurance claim for the lost production. Lowe's discussions are ongoing, but it could be a significant insurance recovery in the range of $20,000,000 or higher, and we're aiming to finalize that claim in the next few months. The second mill downtime will occur in the Q2 this year when Mill number 1 will be shut down for about 3 weeks to allow for the relocation of the in pit crusher and other maintenance.

Speaker 2

That crusher currently sits on top of the Connect ore zone and we've got about $10,000,000 of CapEx left to complete the move. That's a project that we've been working on now for nearly 2 years at a total cost of $50,000,000 dollars These 2 mill downtimes result in about £7,000,000 to £8,000,000 of lost copper production in 2024. And after taking that into account, we expect to produce about £115,000,000 of copper for this year. So that's very similar to last year's annual guidance, although we expect a more stable quarterly production profile this year. 2025 should be a much better production year as we won't have the mill downtime and grades will also increase as we get deeper into the connector pit.

Speaker 2

So moving on to Florence now, and it was certainly a major permitting milestone that we achieved in Q4 with permits now in hand, the project has transitioned into the construction phase. In recent months, the focus has been on-site prep and civil work to prepare for well field drilling as well as procurement and negotiation of key contracts. There are 2 key aspects to the development of the commercial facility. We need to drill the initial well field for the ramp up and that's about 90 wells to be drilled during the construction phase. And we need to build the SXEW plant and surface infrastructure.

Speaker 2

The well field drilling is already underway and the plant construction will begin in the Q2. We'll be using 4 drill rigs for the initial well field, which should be complete and ready for injection in the Q3 of 2025, about 3 months ahead of the SXEW plant commissioning. This allows time for pre leaching of the initial ore blocks, so that when the SXEW plant is ready, we have pregnant leach solution to begin plating copper in the Q4 next year. As we announced in January, we've added a few months to the original 18 month schedule, which we believe reduces execution risk and allows us to spread our spending over an extra quarter where we can benefit from Gibraltar cash flow in 2025, which as I said, is going to be a strong production year. So we're not racing here.

Speaker 2

It's a disciplined approach with a focus on delivering an on budget project and maintaining a strong balance sheet. We recently signed a fixed price contract for the construction of the plant and surface infrastructure and that cost represents roughly 40% of the remaining spend and it's now locked in. We continue to see some inflationary pressure and it's possible we'll see some modest escalation on our published CapEx number, but we think that will be very manageable. In the rest of our business and at our other projects, we remain disciplined and we're not planning any other significant CapEx this year. At Yellowhead, we continue to advance important community discussions ahead of permitting.

Speaker 2

At the New Prosperity, we've recently extended our standstill agreement again. And the dialogue continues with the goal of finalizing a resolution this year. So we have lots on the go, but the key focus is on execution of Florence. It's an exciting time for the company and in less than 2 years, we'll be adding £85,000,000 of low cost copper production. That's 80% production growth in the near term.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn it over to Bryce now for some additional finance commentary.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Stuart. I'll now expand on the financial performance for the Q4 year as well as some financing updates for Florence. As Stuart mentioned, strong 4th quarter copper production and sales resulted in an overall great finish to the 2023 year. Revenue for the quarter was $154,000,000 and for 2023, annual revenue was $525,000,000 was the highest quarterly and annual revenue we've ever reported as a company. This was due to a steady copper price around $3.85 per pound, good sales volumes at £121,000,000 of copper and increasing our ownership in Gibraltar by 17% with the acquisition of Caribou last March from SoGES.

Speaker 3

Total site costs in the Q4 were $111,000,000 a slight increase from the Q3. For the year, total site costs were $431,000,000 and were higher than in 2022, mainly due to increased repairs and maintenance costs, labor costs and partially offset by lower diesel costs and input costs like grinding media. On a cost per pound basis, costs in 2023 were $2.37 per pound, a 20% decrease from last year, mainly due to higher copper production. Adjusted EBITDA of $190,000,000 and cash flow from operations of 1 $151,000,000 were also significantly higher than in 2022, 74% and 86%, respectively. Adjusted net income of $44,000,000 or $0.15 per share and GAAP earnings of $83,000,000 or $0.29 per share were also dramatically higher than the previous year.

Speaker 3

GAAP earnings included a $46,000,000 gain that we recognized on the purchase of Cariboo for the difference in the fair value of assets we acquired from Sogits being that 12.5% of Gibraltar and the present value of what we estimate the consideration payable will be, which has a contingent element. The contingent payments to SOGITs are based on Gibraltar's copper revenues over the next 5 years and none of their payments bear any interest and total payments are capped at $117,000,000 So we believe this will be a very accretive transaction to CECO. The accounting gain is not included in adjusted earnings or adjusted EBITDA. From an operational, financial and growth perspective, it was a very successful year for Taseko from Gibraltar. As Stuart already mentioned, the in pit crusher relocation project will be completed by mid-twenty 24 at a cost of approximately $10,000,000 remaining.

Speaker 3

There are no other major capital projects planned at Gibraltar for this year. We ended 2023 with a healthy $176,000,000 of available liquidity, dollars 26,000,000 higher than at the end of the 3rd quarter, and this includes $97,000,000 of cash. We closed our SXEW equipment facility with Bank of America in the quarter and subsequent to year end, we closed 2 of the previously announced financing transactions for Florence. In late January, we closed the Mitsui Copper Stream and they funded the first $10,000,000 of their $50,000,000 transaction with us, with the remaining amounts due on a quarterly basis. Last month, we also closed the $50,000,000 royalty with Taurus, a well known credit fund moving into the royalty space, and the entirety of those funds were received by Taseko in early February.

Speaker 3

With US175 $1,000,000 now committed from 4 different parties plus our $80,000,000 revolving credit facility, financing is well in hand for the Florence construction, plus the addition of future cash flows from Gibraltar over the next 2 years. In the near term, cash flows remain protected at Gibraltar with copper puts of $3.25 per pound and they're in place to the end of June this year. And as copper prices rise, we continue to watch the market and look for opportunities to extend our price protection into the back half of this year and into 2025. The price of copper has held up well considering the backdrop of macro news and global events and seems to be gathering the most interest in the industry at the moment. Where the price of copper is today at around $3.90 per pounder Gibraltar mine should generate strong cash flow and the medium to long term fundamentals remain exceptionally bullish and point to much higher copper pricing in the years ahead.

Speaker 3

With that, I'll now turn it back to the operator for any questions. Thank

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Craig Hutchinson from TD. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Hi, good morning. My first question is regards to Gibraltar. I guess I wasn't expecting a level of capitalized stripping in Q4.

Speaker 4

I know you guys are still doing some stripping with regards to the connector pick. Can you give us any sense on what type of capitalized stripping we should assume for 2024 and I assume it will be mostly front end weighted?

Speaker 3

Yes. Hey, Craig, it's Bryce. Yes, that's right. We did have a higher level in Q4. And part of that was due to the fact that we started stripping activities again in connector.

Speaker 3

We were quite slow there in the summer months. So I think as far as this year, we still are obviously doing a fair bit of capitalized stripping to open up the connector zone. And I think it should be generally in line with what we saw last year as we begin mining in the upper benches there of connector. So that's sort of in the range of sort of $50,000,000 is kind of our run rate on capitalized strip.

Speaker 4

$50,000,000 and weighted for the front half of the year. Okay. How about sustaining?

Speaker 3

Yes, we don't have a lot of sustaining. I think that's also going to be kind of ordinary. Last year, we had, of course, the station work on the for the crusher move. That's a $50,000,000 project that we spent about $40,000,000 As I mentioned, we've got about $10,000,000 to go. So that'll be mostly in Q2 leading up to June when it's actually moved.

Speaker 3

Other than that, it's just ordinary component.

Speaker 4

And you guys are putting some stockpiles ahead of a potential restart of the SX EW plant. Any kind of context in terms of how meaningful that would be and how many kind of pounds a year, £1,000,000 a year you'd be targeting when that restarts?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, something in the range of £5,000,000 a year of SXEW plant might be what we're looking at. Current expectation is that would restart in 2026.

Speaker 4

And of

Speaker 2

course, it's a seasonal operation there. It doesn't run through the winter months. So kind of Q2, Q3. Yes, so we're stacking oxide ore from the upper benches of the connector pit and need to build up a critical mass of ore on the pad in order to justify the restart, but it's coming.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. If I could just gear the floor. And just curious how the staffing is going, obviously it's very tight labor markets. And then maybe a follow-up question. Can you give us a sense of how much of the original CapEx budget is still remaining?

Speaker 4

I know you mentioned that you are seeing some inflationary pressures, but if you just give us a sense of as of the end of 2023, how much of the budget still remains to be spent on a cash basis? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Richard, do you want to address staffing? Yes.

Speaker 5

So Craig, Richard here. On the staffing side, things have gone actually quite well, continue to get significant interest in the market given the location of the operation and the new commercial operation that's being put together. So quite happy with the level of interest as we go out in the market and recruit the team for commercial operations. So we've had great success so far and everything shows and indicates that that will continue for us. So we're quite happy with that.

Speaker 2

So on your second part of your question there, Craig, on the CapEx, it's Stuart here. Yes. The 2 $32,000,000 number that we published last March, we haven't really spent much of that yet. I think most of the spending that we did on CapEx last year was final installments on the long lead items that we committed to previous to the technical report. So that $232,000,000 remaining number is still a reasonable number.

Speaker 2

We have obviously in the last 2 months started a little bit of spending against that budget, but it's still pretty close. As I mentioned in my opening remarks there, there's some potential for a little bit of inflation on that number. It's something we're watching closely. Obviously, the fixed price contract with the general contractor mitigates some of that risk. But yes, something we're keeping a close eye on.

Speaker 2

And as we get later into the year, 2024 year, I think we'll probably provide a little more color on where we're at. But at this stage, kind of no nothing material to report in terms of a new CapEx estimate or anything like that. So that's kind of where we are.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thanks guys. Lots of luck.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you very much everyone for joining our call and we will talk to you in May for our Q1 earnings call. And in the meantime, if there are questions, feel free to reach out to any of us. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.

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Key Takeaways

  • Gibraltar Q4 & full‐year 2023 performance: Q4 copper production of 34 M lbs at C1 cash costs of C$1.91/lb and record full‐year output of 123 M lbs at C1 costs of C$2.37/lb generated C$190 M of adjusted EBITDA.
  • 2024 guidance & transition: Management expects ~115 M lbs of copper production in 2024 despite two scheduled mill downtimes (7–8 M lbs lost), with a smooth mid‐year shift to the connector pit supporting a more stable quarterly profile and higher grades in 2025.
  • Insurance recovery pursuit: The early replacement of Mill 2 is covered by insurance and Taseko is pursuing a potential C$20 M+ claim for lost production, aiming to finalize the recovery in the coming months.
  • Florence construction underway: Permits are in hand, well‐field drilling has begun, and SX–EW plant construction starts in Q2 under a fixed‐price contract locking in ~40% of remaining CapEx, with the schedule extended slightly to reduce execution risk.
  • Strong financial & liquidity position: Q4 revenue was C$154 M and 2023 revenue C$525 M (company records), ending the year with C$176 M of liquidity (including C$97 M cash) and over C$175 M of committed project financing for Florence.
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