FTC Solar Q1 2024 Earnings Report

FTC Solar EPS Results

• Actual EPS: -$1.00
• Consensus EPS: -$1.10
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.10
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

FTC Solar Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $12.59 million
• Expected Revenue: $12.54 million
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$50.00 thousand
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

FTC Solar Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q1 2024
• Date: 5/10/2024
• Time: N/A
• Conference Call Date: Friday, May 10, 2024
• Conference Call Time: 8:30AM ET

FTC Solar (NASDAQ:FTCI) (NASDAQ:FTCI) specializes in the design, manufacturing and deployment of solar tracker systems for utility-scale photovoltaic power plants. The company’s tracker solutions are engineered to follow the sun’s path and optimize energy capture, helping customers maximize the performance of their solar assets. In addition to its core mechanical tracker products, FTC Solar offers advanced supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) software that enables remote monitoring, predictive maintenance and performance analytics.

Headquartered in Austin, Texas, FTC Solar supports large-scale solar projects across multiple regions, including North America, Latin America, Europe and the Middle East. The company provides end-to-end services spanning project engineering, procurement support, commissioning and ongoing operations and maintenance. Its systems have been selected for a variety of ground-mounted solar installations, ranging from smaller community solar arrays to multi-hundred-megawatt utility farms.

FTC Solar’s management team brings together professionals with backgrounds in renewable energy, engineering and technology development. The company maintains regional service centers and field operations teams to ensure timely installation and on-site support. Ongoing investment in research and development underpins FTC Solar’s commitment to improving tracker reliability, reducing balance-of-system costs and advancing next-generation control algorithms for solar energy projects worldwide.

FTC Solar Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Q1 revenue came in at $12.6 M, down 45.7% sequentially and 69.2% year-over-year, resulting in a GAAP gross loss of 16.7% of revenue and a non-GAAP gross loss of 13.7%.
• Bookings accelerated to $50 M per month over the past ten months, with total backlog reaching $1.8 B and $485 M of that amount contracted.
• The company is targeting adjusted EBITDA breakeven in Q3 and full profitability in Q4, supported by a reduced breakeven revenue level of roughly $50–60 M per quarter.
• Ongoing cost‐optimization initiatives—such as reduced steel content and design-to-value improvements—are expected to drive long-term gross margins above 20% as revenue scales.
• The product portfolio was enhanced with the first high-wind version of the Pioneer 1P tracker and a comprehensive 1P/2P solution set, enabling technology-agnostic project optimization.

Presentation

[Operator]

Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the FTC Solar First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising you your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Bill Michalek, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

[Bill Michalek, VP of Investor Relations at FTC Solar]

Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to FTC Solar's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Before today's call, you may have reviewed our earnings release and supplemental financial information, which were posted earlier today. If you've not reviewed these documents, they're available on the Investor Relations section of our website at ftcsolar.com. I'm joined today by Ahmad Chatila, a member of the Board of Directors and a company founder, Cathy Behnen, the company's chief financial officer, and Patrick Cook, the company's chief commercial officer. Before we begin, I remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements based on our assumptions and beliefs in the current environment and speaks only as of the current date. As such, these forward-looking statements include risks and uncertainties, and actual results and events could differ materially from our current expectations.

[Bill Michalek, VP of Investor Relations at FTC Solar]

Please refer to our press release and other SEC filings for more information on the specific risk factors. We assume no obligation to update such information, except as required by law. As you'd expect, we'll discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures today. Please note that the earnings release issued this morning includes a full reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure to the nearest applicable GAAP measure. In addition, we'll discuss our backlog, and our definition of this metric is also included in our press release. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ahmad.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone. It's been a relatively short time since our last call, so our remarks today will be fairly brief. The key takeaways from my perspective are, one, first quarter financial results were in line with the targets we provided. Two, the company continues to focus on advancing key initiatives that will support future growth and profitability. And three, we continue to target being break even on an Adjusted EBITDA basis in the third quarter and crossing into profitability in the fourth quarter. Last quarter, we reviewed some of the issues that the company has faced and the progress that has been made recently. I'll briefly review those and note some additional progress.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

First, we discussed how the company has seen an acceleration of contracted projects or signed purchase orders from what has been about $6 million per month in 2022 and early 2023 to about $50 million per month for the last 10 months. Our bookings remain healthy, and the sustained booking success we've seen lays the foundation for revenue recovery that will start in the second half of the year. We remain laser focused on customers, spending as much time with them as possible in a cross-functional effort to improve engagement and best support the full range of customer needs with a robust product roadmap. We also continue to enhance our product portfolio, and we recently awarded our first purchase order for a high-wind version of our Pioneer 1P tracker.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Our contracted and awarded total increased by $70 million to $1.8 billion, with contracted projects representing approximately $485 million of the total. Second, the market for 2P trackers has improved, and we have our strongest and most comprehensive product portfolio to date. With module availability improved from where it was, we've seen a more normalized market for 2P with good pipeline activity. With strong 1P and 2P solutions, along with software, we can be truly technology agnostic and optimize each individual project site to maximize the benefits for our customers. While most of our new awards are 1P, we now have several examples of project awards that combine 1P and 2P technologies with more in the pipeline. Third, we continue to improve business properties.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Customer visits, which have increased tenfold, remain elevated with a broad cross-functional approach to accelerate the feedback loop on quality, product roadmap, and future needs, and enhance overall customer experience. And we continue to roll out our Net Promoter Score system to help us better measure and drive engagement and satisfaction. Fourth, we continue to further improve our cost roadmap to enable higher, sustainable long-term growth margins. After making great strides reducing steel content and bringing manufacturing costs in line with those of our leading competitors, we continue to further optimize our design to value and design to manufacturing initiatives and expect cost improvements to continue over the next 15 months. We are confident that these improvements and the strength of our average new project margin will enable greater than 20% gross margins in the future as our revenue level scales.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Finally, our break-even cost has greatly improved, driven by higher direct margins, as well as a reduction and keen focus on OpEx and overhead costs, including adding an incremental labor in low-cost countries. Our break-even revenue level has historically been well over $100 million per quarter. Last quarter, we discussed how we have now brought that down to approximately $50 million-$60 million, depending on whether or not we pay a bonus. Our margins on new U.S. bookings, which are higher than international, have been very healthy and may enable us to achieve Adjusted EBITDA break even below $50 million. So that's the latest on our key profitability initiatives. As it relates to the CEO search, we have been very deliberate in our approach to finding the right candidate and not wanting to disrupt progress on key initiatives.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

We continue to focus on candidates with significant industry knowledge, and we have seen strong interest. I expect we could be in a position to make an announcement on or before our next earnings call in August. So in summary, we continue to make good progress in positioning the company for a healthy recovery. We have a strong and expanding product portfolio that is well-regarded in the industry and can optimize our customers' project portfolios. Customer engagement is the top priority, and we continue to see healthy bookings. The market for 2P trackers is improving, and we are improving our systems and processes across the board, including pricing. We have a product cost structure to enable 20%+ long-term gross margins and a company cost structure, which has been reduced to enable quarterly profitability in 2024.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

As revenue levels improve, the profitability and cash flows potential of the business can show through. With that, I'll turn it over to Cathy.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

Thanks, Ahmad, and good morning, everyone. I'll provide some additional color on our first quarter performance and our outlook. Beginning with a discussion of the first quarter, revenue came in at $12.6 million, which was at the midpoint of our target range. This revenue level represents a decrease of 45.7% compared to the prior quarter, and a decrease of 69.2% compared to the quarter last year on both lower product and logistics volume. GAAP gross loss was $2.1 million, or 16.7% of revenue, compared to gross profit of $0.7 million or 3% of revenue in the prior quarter. On a non-GAAP basis, gross loss was $1.7 million, or 13.7% of revenue, toward the higher or better end of our target range.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

This compares to a gross profit of $1.1 million or +4.8% in the prior quarter. While our project margins remain healthy and our costs are much improved, as represented by our last four consecutive quarters of positive margin, the revenue level in the first quarter was not high enough to absorb the indirect costs. We continue to believe that we have significant margin upside when our revenue level recovers. Our GAAP operating expenses were $10.4 million. On a non-GAAP basis, excluding stock-based compensation and certain other costs, operating expenses were $8.7 million, which includes a $0.7 million credit loss provision relating to a specific customer account that was not included in our guidance ranges.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

Excluding this charge, our non-GAAP operating expenses would have been $8.1 million at the better end of our guidance range and representing some of the lowest levels in more than two years, as we have found efficiencies across the company while continuing to invest to support growth. That normalized $8.1 million would compare to a normalized $7.8 million in the prior quarter and $10.1 million in the year-ago quarter. GAAP net loss was $8.8 million, or 7 cents per share, compared to a loss of $11.2 million, or 9 cents per share in the prior quarter, and a net loss of $11.8 million, or 11 cents per share in the year-ago quarter.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

Adjusted EBITDA loss, which excludes an approximate $1.9 million net benefit from an earn-out on a previously sold investment, less stock-based compensation expense and other non-cash items, was $10.7 million, compared to losses of $10.1 million in the prior quarter and $7.2 million in the year-ago quarter. Even including the $0.7 million charge, Adjusted EBITDA loss was better than the midpoint of our guidance range. Finally, regarding liquidity, we ended the quarter with $60 million in cash and restricted cash on the balance sheet. Our receivables ended the quarter at about 3.5x our payables, and subsequent to the end of the quarter, we received payment on $9 million in outstanding receivables that we were previously expecting by the end of the first quarter.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

We currently expect to end the second quarter with about $20 million-$25 million in cash. We continue to hold no debt on the balance sheet and have about $65 million remaining under the ATM program at the end of the quarter. As previewed on the last call, we did not utilize the ATM in Q4 or Q1, and we similarly don't plan to utilize it in Q2. With all of those factors, we are actively managing customer deposits and supplier payments. Our backlog is $1.8 billion, and as Ahmad mentioned, the contracted portion of that is $485 million. With that, let us turn our focus to the outlook.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

Our targets for the second quarter call for the following: Revenue between $10.5 million and $15.5 million, which at the midpoint, would represent slight sequential growth from the first quarter. Along with this revenue level, we expect non-GAAP growth loss between $3.1 million and $1.1 million, or between -29.5% and 7.1% of revenue. As you might expect, the percentage ranges vary greatly at these lower revenue levels. Non-GAAP operating expenses between $8.6 million and $9.2 million, and finally, Adjusted EBITDA loss between $12.6 million and $9.8 million.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

We continue to expect revenue to be weighted toward the second half of the year, with the company being approximately break even on an Adjusted EBITDA basis in the third quarter before moving squarely profitable in the fourth quarter. With that, we conclude our prepared remarks, and I will turn it over to the operator for any questions. Operator?

[Operator]

Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment while we compile our Q&A roster.

[Operator]

Our first question is going to come from the line of Philip Shen with Roth MKM. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Philip Shen, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Roth MKM]

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. First one is on the back half. You talked about hitting breakeven in Q3 and then profitability in Q4. As it relates to the Southeast Asia AD/CVD, and the challenges that might come from that, to what degree is there risk from those projects that you need to hit in Q3 and four, that they could get delayed by the new tariffs?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you, Phil. Patrick, can you give a color on what we see in the market on AD/CVD?

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, holistically, I think it's too early to assess, you know, some of the potential impacts. You know, customers are assessing, and doing some scenario playing. So it hasn't been fully kind of vetted or taken up yet. But I will say, you know, the projects that we have, in the back half of the year, you know, been really focused on, you know, getting their security around the modules, and we've been working with them, and they've got clarity and line of sight on, on the modules. And so we hope that little to no impact, for those projects.

[Philip Shen, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Roth MKM]

Great. In terms of the bookings, I think I saw about $118 million of bookings. Can you—you know, Array talked about yesterday, $35 million of U.S. bookings getting de-booked. I think Shoals had some de-bookings as well, or cancellations. Is your 118, I gotta imagine it's a net bookings number, so was curious if you've had any projects de-book in a similar way, given some of the challenges out there beyond AD/CVD, but also with long lead time, high voltage equipment, and interconnection queues and so forth. Thanks.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you, for this question again. Cathy, why don't you give some color?

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

Yeah, so we are giving, you know, net booking numbers, but we are not; we don't really break that out. But we are. We have never had any, you know, significant contracts pulled out. Sometimes, you know, small ones, but not. We've not had anything significant drop out of our backlog.

[Philip Shen, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Roth MKM]

Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions, guys. I'll pass it on.

[Operator]

Thank you, and we'll move on to our next question. One moment, please. Our next question will come from the line of Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Pavel Molchanov, Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James]

Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Let's zoom in on Q3, when you anticipate EBITDA approaching breakeven. What kind of gross margin does that assume?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Hi, Pavel. This is Ahmad. Let me think through. It will be... It will be around 16%-17%, something like that, in that range. We can dig that up for you and let you know later, but I think it's going to be in that range, Pavel.

[Pavel Molchanov, Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James]

Same thing for Q4 with positive EBITDA. Is that going to be the kind of 20% number that you have targeted?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

I cannot. I think it'll be lower by a little bit. It might touch 20%, but I think it will be lower than 20%.

[Pavel Molchanov, Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James]

Okay. Geographic mix, you just talked about some of the risks in the, you know, in the U.S. in terms of, you know, protectionism. What's the roadmap for continuing to expand your footprint in Australia and Latin America?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Yes, I will get Patrick to answer that.

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

Yeah, no. So thanks for the question, Pavel. You know, obviously our business has predominantly been in the U.S., but we have seen and continue to grow our pipeline and backlog in areas, you know, such as Australia, South Africa, Europe, and Latin America. And we expect, you know, that to grow in the back half of the year as well and contribute to the overall revenue, for the back half of the year.

[Pavel Molchanov, Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James]

And of the $1.8 billion total backlog, how much is international?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Patrick?

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

Yeah, Pavel, we haven't broken out the domestic versus international. You know, obviously the majority of our pipeline and backlog is in the U.S., but we are seeing the international piece as we've planted flags and grown our team footprint out there. That's been a growing portion of the backlog, and we expect it to grow in the future as well.

[Pavel Molchanov, Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James]

Okay. Thanks very much.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you, and one moment as we move on to our next question. Our next question is gonna come from the line of Sameer Joshi with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Sameer Joshi, Senior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright]

Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Good morning.

[Sameer Joshi, Senior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright]

Just a little bit on the backlog. I know you're not giving the geographic breakdown, but do you have 1P versus 2P breakdown there?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Patrick, why don't you give some color on the backlog? Give a little bit of geographic, although we don't show exact numbers and 1P, 2P.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

As well, color?

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

Yeah. So I'd say if you look at the geographic breakdown, you know, the majority of it is in the U.S. Then if you kind of look at what are the subportions, Australia, South Africa, and then also, you know, Europe as we've. That was the most recent country that we've or continent that we've entered and, you know, have been able to expand our backlog and pipeline there. As it relates to the one and 2P kind of breakdown, we've had the 2P longer, so naturally, our contracts and awarded is gonna skew towards the 2P. As Ahmad said in his opening remarks, we're seeing a recovery in our two-in-portrait market.

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

But a lot of the bookings that we've had recently are tied to our 1P and around, you know, some of the excitement that they've seen in the constructability and just, you know, overall, 1P market. So, you know, more of the new projects have been signed up with our 1P system.

[Sameer Joshi, Senior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright]

Understood. Thanks for that. On your path towards improving gross margins over the last several quarters and going forward, is the focus more on lowering the fixed costs, or are you trying to control the contribution margin of each additional unit produced? Or is the gross margin being driven also by some kind of a mix, either geographic or 1P, 2P?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Yeah, let me. I'll take this one. This is Ahmad. Thank you, Samir. So the... There's two ways. One is to control the overhead costs, not reduce it, but control it. And as volumes expand, to be careful of how we expand that overhead cost, like services in the field and so on and so forth. But the vast majority of that gross margin improvement comes from unit cost reduction, like bill of materials, value-added manufacturing, and logistics.

[Sameer Joshi, Senior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright]

Great, great. Thanks for that color. And then just one last question. In the income statement, there is a $4.1 million gain from disposal of investment. Can you give us, tell us what it is?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Cathy?

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

Yes, we previously had an investment in a subsidiary that we disposed of back in 2021, and we had an earn-out on that. And as that earn-out gets earned, then we recognize the revenue at that point in time.

[Sameer Joshi, Senior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright]

Got it. Thanks for that clarification. Thanks for taking my questions, and good luck.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you, and one moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Osborne with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Jeff Osborne, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen]

Thank you. Good morning. Just a couple quick ones. I was wondering if you could categorize, either Patrick or Ahmad, the growth in the second half. I assume that's in the U.S. Would you say it's with, you know, larger developers, smaller developers? Any context would be helpful.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you, Jeff. This is Ahmad. So it is in the U.S. It is with smaller developers. I mean, just to give you some color, our stock price, you know, being where it is, we are not as successful yet in penetrating 2 to 1 accounts, and that's something that I think will change as we break even in Q3 and become profitable in Q4. So that's the color on the growth.

[Jeff Osborne, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen]

That's helpful. Just going back six-nine months ago, Patrick and the team were a bit maybe overly specific, but I think there was reference to, like, the Cat Creek project in Idaho, and then some agri-photovoltaics in Italy and some potential projects in Spain. I was just wondering if you could update us on where those stand. And then specifically in Italy, I think the government is looking to, to possibly shut down the agri PV sector as a whole, and so I wasn't sure if there's any notable backlog in that vertical, just given that that was a focus of the prior-

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

So, Jeff, I will give you color on Europe, and then Patrick can talk about Cat Creek. Look, the Italian potential business is not material to the company. I would say that Spain is gonna become very interesting for us and international, especially with expanding our team and adding senior executives. So we're gonna see some nice progress in the next 12 months. And Patrick, why don't you give color on Cat Creek?

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

Yeah, as it relates to the Cat Creek project, obviously, it's one that we're, you know, really excited about. And just as a lot of other projects have seen, you know, there's been, you know, some kind of inherent, yet small delays that are going on with that project. But we expect it to start here in the short term and, you know, really kind of carry into the back half of the year and into 2025.

[Jeff Osborne, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen]

Great. Then two other just rapid fire ones. Ahmad, how do you define high wind? Is it 120 or 140 miles an hour for the-

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

I define it as 100, 135 and 150.

[Jeff Osborne, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen]

Got it. That's helpful. And then, is there a bias to pay bonuses in Q3 or Q4, or have you accrued for either period?

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

I'll get Cathy to answer that.

[Cathy Behnen, CFO at FTC Solar]

No, we have not. We have not accrued for either period at this point in time. But do anticipate that there would be an opportunity to pay bonuses in Q4.

[Jeff Osborne, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen]

Got it. Thank you.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you, Jeff.

[Operator]

Thank you, and one moment for our next question. Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Kashy Harrison with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Kashy Harrison, Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler]

Good morning, everybody, and thank you for taking my questions. So just a few ones for me. Can you first off remind us on the definition of the contracted backlog? And then can you also give us a sense of what proportion of this backlog you would say is fully de-risked from a permitting perspective, interconnection, financing, high-voltage critical equipment panels? Just trying to make sure that the customers have what they need, you know, to move forward with these projects.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

All right. Patrick, why don't you answer this question?

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

Yeah. So as it relates to our backlog, our contract and awarded, you know, we haven't changed the definition since the IPO. So it encompasses, you know, signed purchase orders, you know, MOU, LOIs, and as well as verbal awards, and I think we've spelled that out, you know, in our filings as well. As it relates to de-risking, you know, we have $485 million worth of signed POs of that $1.8 billion that sits out there today. But, you know, we're not guiding to, on an individual project basis, you know, who's got financing and inverters.

[Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer at FTC Solar]

You know, once you get a signed purchase order, you know, the projects are moving along in accordance with kind of the time that they've laid out.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Yeah, and Jeff... Sorry, Kashy, let me give you a color as well. While there's chatter in the industry about the high-voltage equipment and the lead times on those, specifically, we have not seen any of our projects being impacted yet with that. And on module, I wanna circle back to a prior question. We went through and we talked to all our customers, at least from the second half of projects, and to a large extent, a lot of them already have procured modules. They either have them in inventory, or they have them with First Solar or with someone who's gonna be able to ship. So that's the second half of the year. I cannot tell you about 2025 right now and what's the impact of AD/CVD or the high-voltage equipment.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

From the second half of the year, at this moment in time, we have not heard anything from our customers.

[Kashy Harrison, Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler]

Appreciate the color. That's all I have. Thank you.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you, and I'm showing no further questions, and I'd like to hand it back to management for any further or closing remarks.

[Ahmad Chatila, Board Member at FTC Solar]

Uh, Bill?

[Bill Michalek, VP of Investor Relations at FTC Solar]

Great. Well, thanks, everybody, for joining today. We look forward to giving you an update next quarter, and, and thanks for joining.

[Operator]

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Ahmad Chatila, Board Member
• Bill Michalek, VP of Investor Relations
• Cathy Behnen, CFO
• Patrick Cook, Chief Commercial Officer

Analysts

• Jeff Osborne, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at TD Cowen
• Kashy Harrison, Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler
• Pavel Molchanov, Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James
• Philip Shen, Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Roth MKM
• Sameer Joshi, Senior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright