Modiv Industrial Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Rental income increased 15.4% year‐over‐year to $11.9 M, driving a 6.6% rise in AFFO to $3.3 M despite dilutive share growth.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Portfolio comprises 42 properties with a 13.9-year weighted average lease term, $39.9 M annualized base rent and 34% investment-grade tenants across industrial, office and retail sectors.
  • Positive Sentiment: Balance sheet remains strong with $18.4 M cash, $281 M debt—100% fixed at 4.52%—and no maturities until January 2027 at a 48% leverage ratio.
  • Positive Sentiment: Board declared a $0.095 monthly dividend through June, an annualized $1.15 per share yield of 7.72% based on a $14.90 stock price.
  • Negative Sentiment: The Clara, St. Paul asset tenant is in bankruptcy, not paying rent, and the company is evaluating sale, lease or equipment disposition once the tenant formally rejects.
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Earnings Conference Call
Modiv Industrial Q1 2024
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There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Modiv Industrial, Inc. 1st Quarter 24 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks and then we will open up the call for your questions. Please note, this event is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to John Rainey, Chief Operating Officer and General Counsel. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us for Motive Industrial's Q1 2024 earnings call. We issued our earnings release before market opened this morning, and it's available on our website at motive.com. I'm here today with Aaron Halfacre, Chief Executive Officer and Ray Pagini, Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks and then we

Speaker 2

will open up the call

Speaker 1

for your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's comments will include forward looking statements under the federal securities laws. Forward looking statements are identified by words such as will be, intend, believe, expect, anticipate or other comparable words and phrases. Statements that are not historical facts, such as statements about our expected acquisitions or dispositions, potential strategic partner discussions are also forward looking statements. Our actual financial condition and results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from these forward looking statements are contained in our SEC filings, including our reports on Form 10 ks and 10 Q. With that said, I would like to turn the call over to Aaron Haffigan. Aaron?

Speaker 3

Thanks, John. Hello, everyone. Hope you're doing well. 1st quarter right around the corner from 4th quarter results. In the tradition I've done in the last couple of quarters, I've put it all out there in the earnings release for the most part.

Speaker 3

So instead of me jabbing away, first, let's go to Ray and then I'll catch up at the end. Ray?

Speaker 4

Thank you, Aaron. I'll begin with an overview of our Q1 operating results. Rental income for the Q1 was $11,900,000 compared with $10,300,000 in the prior year period. This 15.4% increase reflects the impact of 12 industrial manufacturing property acquisitions during 2023, partially offset by 14 non core property dispositions in August 2023 and 2 additional non core dispositions during the 1st 2 months of 2024. 1st quarter adjusted funds from operations or AFFO was $3,300,000 up 6.6% when compared with $3,100,000 in the year ago quarter.

Speaker 4

The increase in AFFO primarily reflects the increase in rental income and a decrease in property expenses, which were partially offset by increases in straight line rents and interest expense. On a per share basis, AFFO was $0.29 per diluted share for this quarter, which reflects an increase of 1,000,000 shares in the weighted average number of fully diluted common shares outstanding, compared to $0.30 per diluted share in the year ago quarter. The increase in fully diluted shares is attributable to performance shares earned by management during 2023 and shares issued during April 2023 in connection with the property acquisition through an UPREIT transaction. Property expenses decreased $723,000 compared with the year ago quarter, primarily reflecting the disposition of properties with modified gross leases and double net leases in August 2023. Excluding the impact of swap valuations, cash interest expense increased by approximately $1,300,000 reflecting greater borrowings outstanding during 2024, given that during the year ago quarter, we only had an average of $157,000,000 outstanding on our credit facility.

Speaker 4

While G and A increased by $91,000 compared to the year ago quarter, the increase was entirely due to non recurring costs for our transfer agent and legal fees related to the distribution of GIPR's common stock to our stockholders in January. We expect general and administrative expenses to be lower in future quarters since the Q1 of each year includes higher costs for audit and tax professionals along with higher Social Security taxes for employees who reached the Social Security maximum tax during the Q1. Now turning to our portfolio. Following the January February dispositions of 2 non core assets, our forty two property portfolio has an attractive weighted average lease term of 13.9 years and approximately 34% of our tenants or their parent companies have an investment grade credit rating from a recognized credit rating agency of BBB- or better. Annualized base rent for our 42 properties totals $39,900,000 as of March 31, 2024, with 38 industrial properties representing 75 percent of ABR, 3 office properties representing 14% of ABR and one retail property representing 11% of ABR.

Speaker 4

With respect to our balance sheet and liquidity, as of March 31, 2024, total cash and cash equivalents was $18,400,000 and we had $281,000,000 of debt outstanding. Our debt consists of $31,000,000 of mortgages on 2 properties and a $250,000,000 term loan outstanding on our $400,000,000 credit facility. And we do not have any debt maturities until January of 2027. Based on interest rate swap agreements that we entered into during 2022, 100% of our indebtedness as of March 31, 2024 while the fixed interest rate with a weighted average interest rate of 4.52% based on our leverage ratio of 48% at quarter end. We are exploring various alternatives to extend or restructure the December 31, 2024 cancellation options on our existing swaps.

Speaker 4

As previously announced, our Board of Directors declared a cash dividend for common share of approximately $0.095 for the months of April, May June 2024, representing an annualized dividend rate of $1.15 per share of common stock. This represents a yield of 7.72% based on the $14.90 closing price of our common stock as of May 1, 2024. I'll now turn the call back over to Aaron.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Ray. I'd say pretty straightforward quarter. I think if we look at a lot of REITs coming out, very similar theme, a lot of volatility, doesn't make sense to be actively acquiring too much. Those who have distressed assets seem to be disposing of them. For us, it was mainly a quarter of patients, sort of like a duck on the surface of the water, it may look calm, but furiously sort of kicking the legs.

Speaker 3

The bulk of that time being spent on the aforementioned strategic partner conversations. These take a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of thinking, but primarily a lot of patience. I think we feel constructive on the company. It's probably the best we've ever been in a position. We feel like we have no gun to our head.

Speaker 3

We don't have to do anything. We'd love the capital markets to open back up, but everyone on this call would love the same. It's been a long trough. Our entire public existence has been eating nuts and berries and never having a steak. So we're keeping the faith and doing quite fine.

Speaker 3

It's a crazy time now for people to make decisions. Was it 3 weeks ago, we had 300 missiles coming over into the Middle East. We've got campus riots. We've got I think it was December at the end of December, the market was pricing 6 cuts in. We've had a lot of volatility.

Speaker 3

And I think the stability that we've shown is worth something. I think we're still massively undervalued. That's why I'm I have a big, big personal position. I'm very comfortable with that and about closing that gap. The NAV that we came out with, look, some people may have disdain for appraisals, but they're a legitimate part of the real estate space.

Speaker 3

We chose 2 very high profile legitimate appraisers to go out and appraise our portfolio of assets as well as our fixed rate mortgages. And we use that information to come up with NAV. I think if you look at the history of NAV, you could find along a lot of them in our S11 that we did 2 years ago, but obviously we came out with an NAV last year. I think directionally they show the right trend, right, unlike say B REIT or S REIT out there. And then on trade space, our valuations have gone down from last year.

Speaker 3

So that passes the smell test in my perspective because we have had wider cap rates and higher rates. So you should see that in your appraisals. But I think it just clearly shows that our lack of float, the fact that the vast majority of our legacy investors do not even pay attention to the share price, do not even remotely consider trading it. If you look at a percentage of our shares outstanding, it is what trades, Ours is like a tenth of what a normal read is. So we have very thin volume and we understand that we have to address that.

Speaker 3

We've had many conversations with people of the institutional space who really like what we're doing, like our theme, but there's no way right now for them to find a way to get in. And so we just have to be patient. We don't have our ATM open right now. We're not looking at that. We did try it out in prior quarter just to try to grease the skids.

Speaker 3

But we're just being patient, operating with what we have, mining Ps and Qs, saving every penny that we can to get something done and we're optimistic that we can get something done. We just don't know when it will happen. This environment again to say this like for the 5th time requires patience. But that said optimism is high, focus is strong and ready for some Q and A. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question is from the line of Robert Stevenson with Janney Montgomery Scott. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning, guys. Aaron, where are you on the Clara asset in St. Paul? Is that looking like a sale or a release at this point?

Speaker 3

It's a great question. I think we're we've been actively exploring both of those. Candidly, the reason why I don't have enough progress on that yet is we still haven't got it fully rejected from Calera. They we've been in contact with them. We're waiting for them.

Speaker 3

We presume that they will fully reject it, but they haven't yet. And until such time that they do, it kind of hogties us on the margin. That said, we've been proactive speaking to brokers in that market. We have in developing strategies. We've spoken to other growers as well who know the property and expressed interest.

Speaker 3

A little and interesting fact is U. S. Foods has a significant presence there. And in the original context, they were going to be providing microgreens to U. S.

Speaker 3

Foods. And so that has spurred a lot of what seems to be some interest. That said, it's a that's a very unique space and in terms of vertical growers. The building itself is a great box. I mean they over improved it.

Speaker 3

I think upwards of $15,000,000 of capital improvements they put into this property. There's also equipment that we had purchased from them originally that's in there. So we're in addition to looking at sell lease as a vertical grower, we're also contemplating the concept of sell lease as an empty box. And then that part would require us to sell off the equipment. So we're actively exploring all those things.

Speaker 3

We're a bit of a holding pattern. We're waiting for them to reject. And then after that, we'll probably be able to get a little bit more momentum.

Speaker 5

Are they currently paying you? No. So they haven't gotten out and they haven't paid?

Speaker 3

They're not in it. They're not in it. So they're not occupying it, but they're not paying. It's just stuck up in the bankruptcy proceedings.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then the I believe the window just opened for the tenant purchase option on the State of California asset in Rancho Cordova. What's the likely, play there at this point?

Speaker 4

Do you have

Speaker 5

a sense whether or not they're going to

Operator

take it?

Speaker 3

Yes. We reached out to them about last week. They said they're they haven't met the meeting scheduled to discuss it. So we probably won't hear back if they're going to start their option process for a little bit more time, call it this quarter, Q2 probably. Our view is a couple of things on our calculus, which may or may not be their calculus candidly, but from ours when they originally did it, they California had a big budget surplus.

Speaker 3

That's not the case now. The purchase price isn't going to move the needle in terms of their budget, but we think about those things in terms of there's a political element in terms of when do they do this. Our view is when we talk to them, I guess it was probably late last year and they indicated that they were likely to start the process in May. We called them again and he said it's on the docket for the discussion. How it has to they have to go through their real estate department, which has very finite resources in terms of people who can do acquisitions like that.

Speaker 3

It goes to their acquisitions department and then they come up with a valuation mechanism, which we have one embedded and basically there's a price in lease that if it's plus or minus 10% of that, they can just move forward. If it's outside of that price range, then they have to make we have a back and forth process between us if we want to agree to this different price. I don't see any issues with that mechanism. From there, it then goes to the various state departments to get approval. And then once it's approved, it's put on the budget.

Speaker 3

And then the budget would not get approved until next year. So they clearly told us the process would take at least 12 months to 14 months, whenever they did initiate it. Our view is if they tell us they're going to initiate it, we'll be patient. If they say that they're not sure they're going

Speaker 6

to initiate it because they have

Speaker 3

a couple of year window to do it, then we're probably just going to take it to market because it does have it's a AAA rated credit or at least a AA plus rated credit and it's got term and so no sense in holding it, particularly if we get rid of the Costco property because then we're down to the last bits. But so I guess we'll I assume we'll have a better update for the next on second quarter earnings.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then last one for me. How significant are the acquisition opportunities at similar rates to the Tampa acquisition, if you had access to more decently priced capital at this point? I mean is it a low like we're seeing in other asset classes or is there a lot of opportunity and it's just a matter of the capital for you guys?

Speaker 3

So I think there is a lull. There is less being shown than there was a year ago. But there is like I saw a great it was a great opportunity probably going to be an ACAP, but it was $100,000,000 It was a multi site portfolio, not anything that we're talking about, just a straight up brand new sale leaseback. So you could definitely put money to work. I think the ones the logic for us when you think about industrial manufacturing sale leaseback, which is really what you're seeing, you're not seeing hardly any existing leased properties be put on the market right now, occasionally, but not much.

Speaker 3

And they're more like HVAC guys and things like that, which to me is not necessarily that strategic. But on the strategic sale leasebacks, the genesis to decide that you want to move this off balance sheet and take money is a lengthy one, right? If it was assuming that we haven't had much in the way of private equity transactions that take out the small middle market companies in the last 18 months because it doesn't paper for them. They're not a catalyst because typically when a PE shop gets it, that's one of the first things they'll do. And if you have an owner operator who decides they want to free it up, it's a lengthy process to say, hey, wait a minute, this is my goose that lays a golden egg, why would I sell this, right?

Speaker 3

And it's a concept believe it or not that's pretty foreign for some people, even in the day and age where we've had sell leasebacks for generations. So that journey probably takes upwards of at least 12 months, probably 24 months for them to make the decision. And so when we were acquiring assets last year, those were decisions made in 2021 or 2022. And a When you have deals coming out now, I think it's suggestive of they have a real need for the capital. In the case of the Photonics one we did, they are doing an actual they're doing an international And so they found this as a better source of capital than trying to get bank lending, so they could get scale.

Speaker 3

And so that's why it worked, right? If it's somewhere where someone's wanting to do this and they just want to cash it out and they're trying to do a dividend out or do something like that, then those are red flags because to us in this environment. So we expect a low in the volume, but that said, are they all 8s? No, but north of 7.5 percent, I think you could I could replicate the size of the company probably if I had the capital.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's helpful. Appreciate the time this morning, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Thanks. My first question was just answered in kind of how deep the acquisition pipeline kind of could be. But when we look at your release this morning and you talk about the 3 ships scenario, Can you assign any probability as to how you think it plays out? I mean, I know you discussed it, kind of the yin and the yang of it, but where is your head thinking that this ends up?

Speaker 3

Well, attorneys won't let me give you any probabilities, So I won't. I think the 4 scenarios that are laid out are kind of like I don't have any neither do I or do these other two participants have any forced deadlines. So I think that's the right environment to be in is that we're all on our own regards capable of weathering the storm. And so there's no need to do something that is detrimental to one party and the beneficial to the other. I think if that were the case, then it would be far easier to do a deal.

Speaker 3

So I'd say to start off with that. So I think the dialogues with these parties has been didn't just start in the last few months. We know these portfolios quite well. We have had on and off dialogues with these portfolios since we've been public. I think the dialogue that we've had in the last call it 4 months or so, 3 months or so have been really specifically about okay, yes, let's roll up our sleeves.

Speaker 3

I can tell you that the parties have shared information about their portfolios. The part that we have a working model that allows us to see the impact to the combined enterprise. We have actively spoken about cap rates and share prices and governance mechanics. And so I can tell you that there has been some legal dollars spent. So I would say this isn't a wet finger in the wind.

Speaker 3

But if you can tell me the probability of geopolitical risk and economic risk and the election cycle, then I could probably dial it in better for you. But it's just a really it's I literally had a CEO of another REIT text me yesterday and goes, this must be what quicksand feels like, because it's just been a unique market. That said, we're all very constructive. I think the portfolios are very complementary. There's one portfolio is a little bit lumpier, but it's got some real great sort of center of excellence assets in it.

Speaker 3

The other portfolio is smaller in size, but similar to us has more diversification. I think from an industry component, they make sense. I think from a they're both candidly, they're both shorter waltz, they're existing portfolios, but they have good leases. So look, we're going to keep working at this. And candidly speaking to one of the attorneys, this probably this quarter, this what we said here is, well, we're going to be able to say until next quarter.

Speaker 3

And in fact, we're not actually going to go to NAREIT just because we're in the throes of discussions and we don't want to be openly talking about it much. But again, I can't give you a probability just because the market is just I mean, in the last 60 days, our share price has been north of 16, in the 14, in the 15, it's a fucking yo yo. So we'll keep at it and hopefully we'll come up with something.

Speaker 6

All right. That's helpful. But buried in that commentary, I don't think I heard anything regarding kind of the size of these portfolios. I mean, can you give us some aspect? Is it 50?

Speaker 6

Is it 100? Is it 500? I mean what zip code are we talking about the size of these two entities?

Speaker 3

That's a very great question. Can't give you an answer.

Speaker 6

All right. Thanks. Appreciate it, Aaron.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Yes, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to follow-up on the partnership discussion. As you think about these looking at different partnerships, do you anticipate the quality of the assets in the partnership to be comparable to what you would have in your wholly owned portfolio?

Speaker 3

I would say that the quality is very comparable. If you think about manufacturing, sometimes you have rated credits, sometimes you don't. I'd say, I think the thing so I wouldn't I can't really discern one being lower quality. Well, if it was, I wouldn't be talking to them candidly. I'd say they're all comparable quality.

Speaker 3

Some might be stronger tenants, but with shorter leases, some might be stronger tenants with that are lumpier, bigger assets, Some might be perfectly fine tenants, but more diversification. I would say that the best thing that I see from it, if it were to come about in either one direction or the three way direction, is it they're very complementary. I think there's to me I could sleep well at night on any combination. I think they think the same. I think the fact that we're having this conversation is really related to the fact that people are besides the political rhetoric, people understand that manufacturing is a viable asset class.

Speaker 3

I don't think we no one at until Tier 4 really had done it in a truly dedicated space. There are certainly people who have been buyers of it for a long time, but have not gone pure play, at least not as of yet. And so I think they see motive as a natural end state because these portfolios if they they would eventually be selling them anyway. It's just a matter of time. And so I think there's a complementary fit there.

Speaker 3

And I think it is conducive to getting to that more scale and index inclusion and institutional ownership, less equity volatility as a result. And so I think there's a lot of different benefits. But I think the portfolios are very complementary. They're very it seems very strategic and I think it would open the door to others. I mean, there was a 4th Battleship that we've talked to at length and just given where they're at in their cap stack, stack, they just couldn't be a participant at this time.

Speaker 3

And so that's a someday maybe. If we're successful here, God willing, and we've gotten more size, and I wouldn't be surprised that we wouldn't have a conversation with that other portfolio, that 4th battleship down the road. So there is opportunities out there uniquely enough about manufacturing most of the manufacturing portfolios with the exception of what STORE owns and what O Now owns from what it acquired from whatever they were, I can't even think of the name, then Spirit, excuse me. Besides those, there's a most of the portfolios are in private hands. And so having a public currency longer term, I think is something to be looked at strategically.

Speaker 2

Okay. And you talk about exchange of your equity possible for this portfolio. So are we talking like common stock or like OP units?

Speaker 3

I look at those ubiquitously, candidly. One provides tax protection, but these are institutional players. So, generally speaking, and I would I'm not ruling it out, but generally speaking, they're less tax sensitive by the nature of their money. But to be clear, we're talking about sort of that common equity element.

Speaker 2

Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all I have.

Speaker 3

Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now hand the conference over to Alan Halfacre for his closing comments. Alan?

Speaker 3

Thanks, operator. Thanks, everyone. Trying to be candid as best we can, trying to get you guys real dialed in on what we're doing. We think that I think a lot of environments or operators are uncomfortable with transparency. If you don't like what you hear, you're going to make a decision either way.

Speaker 3

If you I think we're delivering results. We're being transparent, so you can try the best you can understand where we're headed, what we're thinking. I'm very confident that we have the right team to get things done. I have no ability to predict the markets. And so like you, we're rolling with the punches.

Speaker 3

But I think we're on to something in this company and look forward to talking to you again at the next earnings release. Thanks everyone.

Operator

Thank you. The conference of Motive Industrial has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.