NYSE:BBAR BBVA Banco Frances Q1 2024 Earnings Report $14.47 +0.66 (+4.78%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$14.72 +0.25 (+1.76%) As of 07:52 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast BBVA Banco Frances EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.20Consensus EPS $0.25Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/ABBVA Banco Frances Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.01 billionExpected Revenue$684.47 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$320.62 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABBVA Banco Frances Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/22/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateMonday, May 20, 2024Conference Call Time3:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsBBVA Banco Frances' Q1 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, May 26, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Press ReleaseInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by BBVA Banco Frances Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 20, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways New Argentine government’s fiscal and monetary adjustment measures are moderating monthly inflation but it remains elevated, with BBVA Research forecasting ~155% annual inflation and a ~4% GDP contraction in 2024. BBVA Argentina’s digital transformation accelerated as retail digital client penetration reached 62% and digital sales accounted for 93.6% of unit sales in Q1, boosting new digital customer acquisitions to 81%. Q1 2024 net income was ARS 34.2 billion, down 41% quarter-on-quarter, resulting in a quarterly ROE of 6.6% and operating income falling 13% due to lower FX and gold gains. The bank maintained strong solvency and funding metrics with a capital ratio of 35.6%, a liquidity ratio of 92%, and a stable asset quality with an NPL ratio of 1.23%. Management expects further declines in interest rates to drive loan growth and anticipates sustaining a mid-teens ROE for 2024 as net interest income and market share continue to improve. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBBVA Banco Frances Q1 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for waiting. At this time, we would like to welcome everyone to BBVA Argentina's first quarter 2024 results conference call. We would like to inform you that this event is being recorded, and all participants will be in listen-only mode during the company presentation. After company remarks are completed, there will be a question and answer section. At that time, further instructions will be given. Should any participant need assistance during this call, please press star zero to reach the operator. First of all, let me point out that some of the statements made during this conference call may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions found in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 under U.S. Federal Securities Law. Operator00:00:54These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning these factors is contained in BBVA Argentina's annual report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year 2023, filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Today with us, we have Mrs. Inés Lanusse, IRO. Mrs. Lanusse, you may begin your conference. MarÃa Belén FourcadeCEO at BBVA Argentina00:01:24Good morning, and welcome to BBVA Argentina's first quarter 2024 result conference call. Today's webinar will be supported by a slide presentation available on our investor relations website on the financial information section. Speaking during today's call will be Inés Lanusse, our Investor Relations Officer, and Carmen Morillo Arroyo, our Chief Financial Officer, who will be available for the Q&A session. Please note that starting January 1, 2020, as per Central Bank regulation, we have begun reporting results applying hyperinflation accounting pursuant to IFRS Rule IAS 29. For ease of comparability, 2023 and 2024 figures have been restated to reflect the accumulated effect of inflation adjustment for each period through March 31, 2024. Now, let me turn the call over to Inés. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:02:20Thank you, Belén, and thank you all for joining us today. 2024 starts with the new Milei government substantially modifying the economic policy framework and focusing its efforts on a strong fiscal and monetary adjustment to reduce inflation. The reduction of fiscal deficit in the first months of the year, the relative currency stability observed after the significant depreciation of the Argentine peso in December 2023, the accumulation of international reserves, and the contraction of economic activity have allowed a recent moderation of the monthly inflation, which however, still remains high. In spite of the uncertainty and related risks, according to BBVA Research, it is likely that these factors could set the basis for an inflation slowdown in the following months. These would eventually be completed by additional measures in the context of the release of a more integrated stabilization program. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:03:26BBVA Research estimates annual inflation will end close to 155%, and that GDP will drop around 4% this year. It is important to mention that interest rates have fallen quicker than expected, and it is expected that these should drop further as inflation continues to decline. Now, moving into business dynamics, as you can see on Slide 3 of our webcast presentation, our service offering has evolved in such a way that by the end of March 2024, retail digital clients penetration reached 62%, while retail mobile clients reached 58%. The response on the side of customers has been satisfactory, and we are convinced this is the path to pursue in the aim of sustaining and expanding our competitive position in the financial system. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:04:25Retail digital sales, measured in units, reached 93.6% in the first quarter of 2024 and represent 73.6% of the bank's total sales, measured in monetary value. New customer acquisitions through digital channels reached 81% in the first quarter of 2024, from 76% in the first quarter of 2023. The bank actively monitors its business, financial conditions, and operating results in the aim of keeping a competitive position to face contextual challenges. Moving to a Slide 4, I will now comment on the bank's first quarter 2024 financial results. BBVA Argentina's inflation-adjusted net income in the first quarter of 2024 was ARS 34.2 billion, falling 41% than the net income in the fourth quarter of 2023. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:05:29This implies a quarterly ROE of 6.6% and a quarterly ROA of 1.6%. Quarterly operating income in the first quarter of 2024 was ARS 631.2 billion, 13% lower than in the fourth quarter of 2023. Quarterly operating results are mainly explained by a lower operating income, mainly due to lower income from foreign exchange and gold gains... particularly in contrast with the fourth quarter 2023 extraordinary results, which were impacted by the devaluation of the Argentine pesos versus the US dollar. This was offset by, one, better results from income from measurement of financial instrument at fair value to P&L. Also, by contrast with the results in the fourth quarter 2023, where a loss was recorded due to the dual bonds value valuation. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:06:302, better net income from write-down of assets at amortized cost and at fair value through OCI, mainly due to the sale of inflation-linked bonds. And 3, lower personnel benefits and other operating expenses. Net income for the period was highly impacted by income from net monetary position. In spite of inflation being slightly lower in the first quarter of 2024 than in the fourth quarter of 2023, the increase in the monetary position in the first quarter of 2024 versus fourth quarter of 2023, more than proportionally offset the mentioned decrease in inflation. That increment was impacted by a higher value of public securities in the fourth quarter of 2023, especially under the fair value through OCI valuation criteria. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:07:29Turning into the P&L lines in Slide 5, net interest income for the first quarter of 2024 was ARS 787.8 billion, increasing 4.8% quarter-over-quarter. In the first quarter of 2024, interest income decreased less than interest expenses in monetary terms. The former, due to lower income from public securities, and the latter, due to lower expenses on time deposits and investment accounts. In the first quarter of 2024, quarterly decrease in interest income is mainly driven by, one, lower income from government securities, explained by the termination of the issuance of LELIQ by the Central Bank in December 2023, reducing its volume on year-end. And two, lower income from loans, mainly discounted instruments, credit cards, and other loans, the latter affected by the fall in floor planning. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:08:29This was partially offset by, one, a better income from repo at lower rates than they accrued by LELIQ, and two, income from inflation-linked bonds. On the other hand, interest expenses decreased 16% due to lower time deposits and investment account expenses, lower volume, and the deregulation of the minimum rate by the end of the quarter. Interest from time deposits, including investment accounts, explain 47% of interest expenses versus 71.2% of the previous quarter. Net fee income as of the first quarter of 2024 totaled ARS 50.5 billion, falling 6.4% quarter-over-quarter. In the first quarter of 2024, fee income totaled ARS 91.1 billion, falling 15.1% quarter-over-quarter. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:09:28In spite of the general quarterly decline on all lines, the decrease is mainly explained by fees from credit cards, which falls 17.3%, and fees linked to liability, which fell 14.4%. Regarding the former, apart from being impacted by expenses related to Puntos BBVA loyalty program, it was also affected by a decrease in activity and consumption. Regarding fees linked to liability, an increase in fees from account maintenance and bundle did not compensate for the fall in activity. On the side of fee expenses, these totaled ARS 40.6 billion, falling 23.9% quarter over quarter. Lower expenses are explained by lower activity, plus the contrast with high seasonal fees expenses in the fourth quarter of 2023. Additionally, there was a decrease in fees linked to payroll marketing campaigns. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:10:31In the first quarter of 2024, loan loss allowances decreased 14.3%, explained by the good behavior of the loan portfolio. During the first quarter of 2024, total operating expenses were ARS 209.6 billion, decreasing 3.5% quarter-over-quarter, of which 29% were personnel benefitss costs. Personal benefits decreased 11.2% quarter-over-quarter. The quarterly change is mainly explained by the contrast with the inflation adjustment of vacation stock provisions and variable compensations recorded in the fourth quarter of 2023, plus wage negotiations with the unions that matched inflation during the first quarter of 2024. As of the first quarter of 2024, administrative expenses grew 33.1% quarter-over-quarter. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:11:29This is mainly explained by an increase in the amount of price of foreign currency services contracted with the parent company. The quarterly efficiency ratio as of the first quarter of 2024 was 65.4%, above the 46.4% reported in the fourth quarter of 2023. The quarterly increase explained by an increase in expenses contrasted with a decrease in income, especially due to lower interest income and the impact of inflation on the monetary position. In terms of activity, on Slide 6, private sector loans as of the first quarter of 2024 total ARS 2.7 trillion, decreasing 12.7%. Loans to the private sector in pesos fell 16.2% in the first quarter of 2024. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:12:22During the quarter, the decrease was especially driven by a lower generalized seasonality in practically all products. The decrease was partially offset by a 20.9% increase in overdraft, mostly due to their short duration. Loans to the private sector denominated in foreign currency increased 18.4%, explained by a 26% growth in financing and pre-financing of exports. Loans to the private sector in foreign currency, measured in U.S. dollars, increased 69.3% quarter-over-quarter. During the quarter, the retail portfolio fell 16.2%, and the commercial portfolio decreased 9.4%. As observed in previous quarters, loan portfolio were impacted by the effect of inflation in the first quarter of 2024, which reached 61.6%. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:13:21In nominal terms, BBVA Argentina managed to increase the retail, commercial, and total loan portfolio by 27.1%, 37.4%, and 32.1%, respectively, during the quarter. In no cases so far seeing quarterly inflation levels. BBVA's Argentina consolidated market share of private sector loans reached 10.08% as of the first quarter of 2024, improving from 9.33% a year ago and surpassing two-digit figure. As of the first quarter of 2024, asset quality ratio keeps a very good performance at 1.23%, in line with the good behavior of the commercial portfolio. On the retail portfolio, there is a slight increase in NPL portfolio due to credit cards, but with no significant impact on the NPL ratio. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:14:22On the funding side, as seen on Slide 7, private non-financial sector deposits in the first quarter of 2024 totaled ARS 4.6 trillion, falling 15.6%. The bank's consolidated market share of private deposits reached 7.37% as of the first quarter of 2024. Private non-financial sector deposits in pesos totaled ARS 3.2 trillion, decreasing 9.3% compared to the fourth quarter of 2023. The quarter change is mainly affected by a 21.2% decline in savings accounts and an 8% fall in checking accounts, especially non-interest-bearing checking accounts. Private non-financial sector deposits in foreign currency, expressed in pesos, fell 27.3% quarter-over-quarter, mainly explained by seasonal factors in the fourth quarter of 2023. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:15:25In terms of capitalization, BBVA Argentina continues to show strong solvency indicators as of the first quarter of 2024. Capital ratio reached 35.6%. Growth in the ratio was mainly driven by a fall in risk-weighted assets. Exposure to the public sector in the first quarter of 2024, excluding central bank instruments, represent 13.9% of total assets, below the 15.9% in the fourth quarter of 2023, and below the last ratio reported by the system of 26.5% as of February 2024. The bank's total liquidity ratio remained healthy at 92% of total deposit as of March 31, 2024. Last but not least, as of the date of this report, the bank has announced the payment of dividends in three installments in cash or kind. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:16:24The total amount due will be ARS 264.2 billion, inflation-adjusted as of December 31, 2023, and pursuant to Central Bank law, it must be updated to the current currency value of each payment date. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now take your questions. Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:16:50We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question is from Carlos Gomez with HSBC. Please go ahead. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:17:29Hello, Inés, and good morning. I would like to know if you can go through as slowly as to why the net interest income declines so much in your case, compared to your peer banks in Argentina this quarter. I'm afraid I was not able to follow it closely. Thank you. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:17:48Hi, Carlos. Good morning. Yes. Basically, one of the main factors that affects our net income this quarter is the fact that the model we use—the different valuation model, the banks have to value securities in the PNL, no? We believe the portfolio strategy should be analyzed based not only one quarter, but in more quarters. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:18:13... Now, being that said, our valuation criteria for securities compared to peers affects more negatively our PNL in the first quarter, and this is particularly because of the extraordinary result we gave in the OCI line in the previous quarter. Remember that last year, our equity grew 25% in real terms. Now, why net income is very affected by this fact that passed in the past? Because of that extraordinary result, my equity grew much more than probably the peers, which not recognize this valuation in the equity, and that generates a higher loss by inflation adjustment. And that's why we are seeing a higher effect, a negative effect in the PNL. So it's quite different, you know, to compare banks with different models. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:19:14If you would do a proxy, for example, if we would have the model of cost instead of fair value, for example, you should analyze our figures by discounting from the equity around ARS 260 million. To that, you should have applied the approximately 52% inflation that we had in the quarter, and if you do your math, the ROE would be around the mid-20s. So basically, the problem is the comparisons between the two models, no? In our case, it's probably a little bit more transparent because we reflect not only what we gain from the securities, but also the valuation of those securities and the effect of inflation in the PNL every quarter. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:20:01On the model that is at cost, you don't reflect that valuation, so your equity doesn't grow that much, and you do not record that extra loss affected by inflation. On the trading model, in the trading model, probably it is comparable, but it's a different way on how you manage portfolios, no? They are more supposedly with trading, it's more short-term criteria. It's another way of managing your securities, while the model we use as a bank, the bank, and it's the same model that BBVA as a holding use, is to protect the assets. That's why we have this model that shows results on PNL and valuation on the OCI line. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:20:48So basically, that is a key factor that affected our net income, and as I was mentioning, if you would do the math or a proxy, if we would have the model of at cost, our ROE would be around the mid-twenties. Then, yes, we had also, despite expenses decreased quarter-over-quarter, we have administrative expenses that grew, and those are mainly tied to FX, which are mainly costs related to the parent company. So that also affected our results, no? I don't know if that answers your question. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:21:27Well, more or less. Let's go one by one. On the valuation at cost. So you had a big gain in the OCI line last year, last quarter in particular. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:21:39Correct. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:21:39Yeah. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:21:39Correct. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:21:40That... And that does not flow through the income statement now, as it gets realized, that's already in your results? Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:21:47Is that the fact is that your equity, when you start the first quarter of this year, is much higher. And the line of inflation adjustment were recognized is the loss for your equity exposure to inflation. As my equity was so big because we recognized the valuation of securities, we have a higher loss because of inflation. Because our monetary assets are the monetary assets, the securities, are at the value of the securities. In the amortized in the other model, you don't recognize that valuation in the PNL. You only recognize when you go selling or when you go getting the selling the bond. Correct? So by not recognizing that higher value of securities, your equity is lower, and by consequence, your exposure to inflation is less. That's why it's not comparable. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:22:50When you compare PNLs, you don't only need to compare figures but also different business models. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:23:00Okay. Now, this was this particular quarter, so how does that reflect into the, the rest of the year when, you know, inflation should be lower and, and rates will also be lower? Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:23:11Going forward, we're still believing we can, despite this quarter, we have a lower ROE. Our strategy of regarding our securities, basically, as you know, LELIQs no longer exist. Most of our liquidity first went to repos, and now it's already placed in LECAP. From our security portfolio, we have more or less 24% of our portfolio in CPI bonds and 67% are LECAP. We have a 9% of Bonte also. So moving forward, we're changing our, the yield of, we are turning to a fixed rate, which is LECAP. We still believe we can sustain a mid-teens ROE for 2024. Also, we are seeing an increase in demand. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:24:04We are starting to see, according to our research department, loan growth for the system should grow positive this year, around 22%. We are starting to see an increase, higher increase on commercial lending, which is part of the strategy of the bank. And that should reflect in the results of the bank, no? Always intending to gain market share. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:24:31Thank you so much. Operator00:24:36Again, if you have a question, please press Star, then one. Please stand by as we poll for questions. Showing no further questions, this concludes the question and answer section. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back to, to Mrs. Lanusse for any closing remarks. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:25:03Okay, thank you for your time, and let us know if you have further questions. Have a good day. Operator00:25:08Thank you. This concludes today's presentation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for waiting. At this time, we would like to welcome everyone to BBVA Argentina's first quarter 2024 results conference call. We would like to inform you that this event is being recorded, and all participants will be in listen-only mode during the company presentation. After company remarks are completed, there will be a question and answer section. At that time, further instructions will be given. Should any participant need assistance during this call, please press star zero to reach the operator. First of all, let me point out that some of the statements made during this conference call may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions found in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 under U.S. Federal Securities Law. Operator00:00:54These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning these factors is contained in BBVA Argentina's annual report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year 2023, filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Today with us, we have Mrs. Inés Lanusse, IRO. Mrs. Lanusse, you may begin your conference. MarÃa Belén FourcadeCEO at BBVA Argentina00:01:24Good morning, and welcome to BBVA Argentina's first quarter 2024 result conference call. Today's webinar will be supported by a slide presentation available on our investor relations website on the financial information section. Speaking during today's call will be Inés Lanusse, our Investor Relations Officer, and Carmen Morillo Arroyo, our Chief Financial Officer, who will be available for the Q&A session. Please note that starting January 1, 2020, as per Central Bank regulation, we have begun reporting results applying hyperinflation accounting pursuant to IFRS Rule IAS 29. For ease of comparability, 2023 and 2024 figures have been restated to reflect the accumulated effect of inflation adjustment for each period through March 31, 2024. Now, let me turn the call over to Inés. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:02:20Thank you, Belén, and thank you all for joining us today. 2024 starts with the new Milei government substantially modifying the economic policy framework and focusing its efforts on a strong fiscal and monetary adjustment to reduce inflation. The reduction of fiscal deficit in the first months of the year, the relative currency stability observed after the significant depreciation of the Argentine peso in December 2023, the accumulation of international reserves, and the contraction of economic activity have allowed a recent moderation of the monthly inflation, which however, still remains high. In spite of the uncertainty and related risks, according to BBVA Research, it is likely that these factors could set the basis for an inflation slowdown in the following months. These would eventually be completed by additional measures in the context of the release of a more integrated stabilization program. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:03:26BBVA Research estimates annual inflation will end close to 155%, and that GDP will drop around 4% this year. It is important to mention that interest rates have fallen quicker than expected, and it is expected that these should drop further as inflation continues to decline. Now, moving into business dynamics, as you can see on Slide 3 of our webcast presentation, our service offering has evolved in such a way that by the end of March 2024, retail digital clients penetration reached 62%, while retail mobile clients reached 58%. The response on the side of customers has been satisfactory, and we are convinced this is the path to pursue in the aim of sustaining and expanding our competitive position in the financial system. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:04:25Retail digital sales, measured in units, reached 93.6% in the first quarter of 2024 and represent 73.6% of the bank's total sales, measured in monetary value. New customer acquisitions through digital channels reached 81% in the first quarter of 2024, from 76% in the first quarter of 2023. The bank actively monitors its business, financial conditions, and operating results in the aim of keeping a competitive position to face contextual challenges. Moving to a Slide 4, I will now comment on the bank's first quarter 2024 financial results. BBVA Argentina's inflation-adjusted net income in the first quarter of 2024 was ARS 34.2 billion, falling 41% than the net income in the fourth quarter of 2023. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:05:29This implies a quarterly ROE of 6.6% and a quarterly ROA of 1.6%. Quarterly operating income in the first quarter of 2024 was ARS 631.2 billion, 13% lower than in the fourth quarter of 2023. Quarterly operating results are mainly explained by a lower operating income, mainly due to lower income from foreign exchange and gold gains... particularly in contrast with the fourth quarter 2023 extraordinary results, which were impacted by the devaluation of the Argentine pesos versus the US dollar. This was offset by, one, better results from income from measurement of financial instrument at fair value to P&L. Also, by contrast with the results in the fourth quarter 2023, where a loss was recorded due to the dual bonds value valuation. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:06:302, better net income from write-down of assets at amortized cost and at fair value through OCI, mainly due to the sale of inflation-linked bonds. And 3, lower personnel benefits and other operating expenses. Net income for the period was highly impacted by income from net monetary position. In spite of inflation being slightly lower in the first quarter of 2024 than in the fourth quarter of 2023, the increase in the monetary position in the first quarter of 2024 versus fourth quarter of 2023, more than proportionally offset the mentioned decrease in inflation. That increment was impacted by a higher value of public securities in the fourth quarter of 2023, especially under the fair value through OCI valuation criteria. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:07:29Turning into the P&L lines in Slide 5, net interest income for the first quarter of 2024 was ARS 787.8 billion, increasing 4.8% quarter-over-quarter. In the first quarter of 2024, interest income decreased less than interest expenses in monetary terms. The former, due to lower income from public securities, and the latter, due to lower expenses on time deposits and investment accounts. In the first quarter of 2024, quarterly decrease in interest income is mainly driven by, one, lower income from government securities, explained by the termination of the issuance of LELIQ by the Central Bank in December 2023, reducing its volume on year-end. And two, lower income from loans, mainly discounted instruments, credit cards, and other loans, the latter affected by the fall in floor planning. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:08:29This was partially offset by, one, a better income from repo at lower rates than they accrued by LELIQ, and two, income from inflation-linked bonds. On the other hand, interest expenses decreased 16% due to lower time deposits and investment account expenses, lower volume, and the deregulation of the minimum rate by the end of the quarter. Interest from time deposits, including investment accounts, explain 47% of interest expenses versus 71.2% of the previous quarter. Net fee income as of the first quarter of 2024 totaled ARS 50.5 billion, falling 6.4% quarter-over-quarter. In the first quarter of 2024, fee income totaled ARS 91.1 billion, falling 15.1% quarter-over-quarter. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:09:28In spite of the general quarterly decline on all lines, the decrease is mainly explained by fees from credit cards, which falls 17.3%, and fees linked to liability, which fell 14.4%. Regarding the former, apart from being impacted by expenses related to Puntos BBVA loyalty program, it was also affected by a decrease in activity and consumption. Regarding fees linked to liability, an increase in fees from account maintenance and bundle did not compensate for the fall in activity. On the side of fee expenses, these totaled ARS 40.6 billion, falling 23.9% quarter over quarter. Lower expenses are explained by lower activity, plus the contrast with high seasonal fees expenses in the fourth quarter of 2023. Additionally, there was a decrease in fees linked to payroll marketing campaigns. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:10:31In the first quarter of 2024, loan loss allowances decreased 14.3%, explained by the good behavior of the loan portfolio. During the first quarter of 2024, total operating expenses were ARS 209.6 billion, decreasing 3.5% quarter-over-quarter, of which 29% were personnel benefitss costs. Personal benefits decreased 11.2% quarter-over-quarter. The quarterly change is mainly explained by the contrast with the inflation adjustment of vacation stock provisions and variable compensations recorded in the fourth quarter of 2023, plus wage negotiations with the unions that matched inflation during the first quarter of 2024. As of the first quarter of 2024, administrative expenses grew 33.1% quarter-over-quarter. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:11:29This is mainly explained by an increase in the amount of price of foreign currency services contracted with the parent company. The quarterly efficiency ratio as of the first quarter of 2024 was 65.4%, above the 46.4% reported in the fourth quarter of 2023. The quarterly increase explained by an increase in expenses contrasted with a decrease in income, especially due to lower interest income and the impact of inflation on the monetary position. In terms of activity, on Slide 6, private sector loans as of the first quarter of 2024 total ARS 2.7 trillion, decreasing 12.7%. Loans to the private sector in pesos fell 16.2% in the first quarter of 2024. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:12:22During the quarter, the decrease was especially driven by a lower generalized seasonality in practically all products. The decrease was partially offset by a 20.9% increase in overdraft, mostly due to their short duration. Loans to the private sector denominated in foreign currency increased 18.4%, explained by a 26% growth in financing and pre-financing of exports. Loans to the private sector in foreign currency, measured in U.S. dollars, increased 69.3% quarter-over-quarter. During the quarter, the retail portfolio fell 16.2%, and the commercial portfolio decreased 9.4%. As observed in previous quarters, loan portfolio were impacted by the effect of inflation in the first quarter of 2024, which reached 61.6%. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:13:21In nominal terms, BBVA Argentina managed to increase the retail, commercial, and total loan portfolio by 27.1%, 37.4%, and 32.1%, respectively, during the quarter. In no cases so far seeing quarterly inflation levels. BBVA's Argentina consolidated market share of private sector loans reached 10.08% as of the first quarter of 2024, improving from 9.33% a year ago and surpassing two-digit figure. As of the first quarter of 2024, asset quality ratio keeps a very good performance at 1.23%, in line with the good behavior of the commercial portfolio. On the retail portfolio, there is a slight increase in NPL portfolio due to credit cards, but with no significant impact on the NPL ratio. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:14:22On the funding side, as seen on Slide 7, private non-financial sector deposits in the first quarter of 2024 totaled ARS 4.6 trillion, falling 15.6%. The bank's consolidated market share of private deposits reached 7.37% as of the first quarter of 2024. Private non-financial sector deposits in pesos totaled ARS 3.2 trillion, decreasing 9.3% compared to the fourth quarter of 2023. The quarter change is mainly affected by a 21.2% decline in savings accounts and an 8% fall in checking accounts, especially non-interest-bearing checking accounts. Private non-financial sector deposits in foreign currency, expressed in pesos, fell 27.3% quarter-over-quarter, mainly explained by seasonal factors in the fourth quarter of 2023. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:15:25In terms of capitalization, BBVA Argentina continues to show strong solvency indicators as of the first quarter of 2024. Capital ratio reached 35.6%. Growth in the ratio was mainly driven by a fall in risk-weighted assets. Exposure to the public sector in the first quarter of 2024, excluding central bank instruments, represent 13.9% of total assets, below the 15.9% in the fourth quarter of 2023, and below the last ratio reported by the system of 26.5% as of February 2024. The bank's total liquidity ratio remained healthy at 92% of total deposit as of March 31, 2024. Last but not least, as of the date of this report, the bank has announced the payment of dividends in three installments in cash or kind. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:16:24The total amount due will be ARS 264.2 billion, inflation-adjusted as of December 31, 2023, and pursuant to Central Bank law, it must be updated to the current currency value of each payment date. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now take your questions. Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:16:50We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question is from Carlos Gomez with HSBC. Please go ahead. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:17:29Hello, Inés, and good morning. I would like to know if you can go through as slowly as to why the net interest income declines so much in your case, compared to your peer banks in Argentina this quarter. I'm afraid I was not able to follow it closely. Thank you. Inés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA Argentina00:17:48Hi, Carlos. Good morning. Yes. Basically, one of the main factors that affects our net income this quarter is the fact that the model we use—the different valuation model, the banks have to value securities in the PNL, no? We believe the portfolio strategy should be analyzed based not only one quarter, but in more quarters. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:18:13... Now, being that said, our valuation criteria for securities compared to peers affects more negatively our PNL in the first quarter, and this is particularly because of the extraordinary result we gave in the OCI line in the previous quarter. Remember that last year, our equity grew 25% in real terms. Now, why net income is very affected by this fact that passed in the past? Because of that extraordinary result, my equity grew much more than probably the peers, which not recognize this valuation in the equity, and that generates a higher loss by inflation adjustment. And that's why we are seeing a higher effect, a negative effect in the PNL. So it's quite different, you know, to compare banks with different models. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:19:14If you would do a proxy, for example, if we would have the model of cost instead of fair value, for example, you should analyze our figures by discounting from the equity around ARS 260 million. To that, you should have applied the approximately 52% inflation that we had in the quarter, and if you do your math, the ROE would be around the mid-20s. So basically, the problem is the comparisons between the two models, no? In our case, it's probably a little bit more transparent because we reflect not only what we gain from the securities, but also the valuation of those securities and the effect of inflation in the PNL every quarter. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:20:01On the model that is at cost, you don't reflect that valuation, so your equity doesn't grow that much, and you do not record that extra loss affected by inflation. On the trading model, in the trading model, probably it is comparable, but it's a different way on how you manage portfolios, no? They are more supposedly with trading, it's more short-term criteria. It's another way of managing your securities, while the model we use as a bank, the bank, and it's the same model that BBVA as a holding use, is to protect the assets. That's why we have this model that shows results on PNL and valuation on the OCI line. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:20:48So basically, that is a key factor that affected our net income, and as I was mentioning, if you would do the math or a proxy, if we would have the model of at cost, our ROE would be around the mid-twenties. Then, yes, we had also, despite expenses decreased quarter-over-quarter, we have administrative expenses that grew, and those are mainly tied to FX, which are mainly costs related to the parent company. So that also affected our results, no? I don't know if that answers your question. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:21:27Well, more or less. Let's go one by one. On the valuation at cost. So you had a big gain in the OCI line last year, last quarter in particular. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:21:39Correct. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:21:39Yeah. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:21:39Correct. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:21:40That... And that does not flow through the income statement now, as it gets realized, that's already in your results? Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:21:47Is that the fact is that your equity, when you start the first quarter of this year, is much higher. And the line of inflation adjustment were recognized is the loss for your equity exposure to inflation. As my equity was so big because we recognized the valuation of securities, we have a higher loss because of inflation. Because our monetary assets are the monetary assets, the securities, are at the value of the securities. In the amortized in the other model, you don't recognize that valuation in the PNL. You only recognize when you go selling or when you go getting the selling the bond. Correct? So by not recognizing that higher value of securities, your equity is lower, and by consequence, your exposure to inflation is less. That's why it's not comparable. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:22:50When you compare PNLs, you don't only need to compare figures but also different business models. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:23:00Okay. Now, this was this particular quarter, so how does that reflect into the, the rest of the year when, you know, inflation should be lower and, and rates will also be lower? Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:23:11Going forward, we're still believing we can, despite this quarter, we have a lower ROE. Our strategy of regarding our securities, basically, as you know, LELIQs no longer exist. Most of our liquidity first went to repos, and now it's already placed in LECAP. From our security portfolio, we have more or less 24% of our portfolio in CPI bonds and 67% are LECAP. We have a 9% of Bonte also. So moving forward, we're changing our, the yield of, we are turning to a fixed rate, which is LECAP. We still believe we can sustain a mid-teens ROE for 2024. Also, we are seeing an increase in demand. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:24:04We are starting to see, according to our research department, loan growth for the system should grow positive this year, around 22%. We are starting to see an increase, higher increase on commercial lending, which is part of the strategy of the bank. And that should reflect in the results of the bank, no? Always intending to gain market share. Carlos GomezAnalyst at HSBC00:24:31Thank you so much. Operator00:24:36Again, if you have a question, please press Star, then one. Please stand by as we poll for questions. Showing no further questions, this concludes the question and answer section. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back to, to Mrs. Lanusse for any closing remarks. Carmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA Argentina00:25:03Okay, thank you for your time, and let us know if you have further questions. Have a good day. Operator00:25:08Thank you. This concludes today's presentation. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a nice day.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsCarlos GomezAnalyst at HSBCCarmen Morillo ArroyoCFO at BBVA ArgentinaInés LanusseInvestor Relations Officer at BBVA ArgentinaMarÃa Belén FourcadeCEO at BBVA ArgentinaPowered by