Fuel Tech Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Q1 revenues declined to $5.0 M from $7.3 M in Q1 2023 due to customer-driven delays in APC and warm weather-related dispatch declines in FUEL CHEM, but the company ended the quarter with a $32 M in cash, cash equivalents and investments and no long-term debt.
  • The APC segment has a $5 M–$10 M pipeline of contract opportunities expected to close by end of Q2, and potential regulatory catalysts—EPA’s Good Neighbor Rule, municipal waste combustor rule and new GHG standards—could drive additional NOₓ control demand.
  • In FUEL CHEM, a new demonstration order at a Western U.S. coal-fired site is expected to generate $1.5 M–$2 M in annualized revenue at historic margins, with additional coal and biomass boiler demos under discussion for H2 024 and beyond.
  • The Dissolved Gas Infusion initiative gained traction with a municipal wastewater demo to reduce H₂S corrosion and a pending commercial proposal for a shrimp-farm system, where full-scale DGI installations could range from $500 K to $1 M per sale.
  • Despite a consolidated gross margin increase to 41% and Q1 net income of $281 K (including a $1.7 M employee retention credit), 2024 guidance excludes material contributions from DGI and regulatory-driven APC growth, indicating upside potential as commercialization and rulemaking progress.
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Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Fuel Tech, Inc.'s First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Devin Sullivan, Managing Director of The Equity Group. Thank you. You may begin.

Devin Sullivan
Managing Director at The Equity Group

Thank you, Sherry. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Fuel Tech's 2024 First Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. Yesterday, after the close, we issued a press release, a copy of which is available at the company's website, www.ftek.com. Our speakers for today will be Vincent Arnone, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Ellen Albrecht, the company's Chief Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions from our analysts and investors.

Devin Sullivan
Managing Director at The Equity Group

Before turning things over to Vince, I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed on this call, except for historical information, are forward-looking statements as defined in Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and reflect Fuel Tech's current expectations regarding future growth, results of operations, cash flows, performance in business prospects and opportunities, as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to our company's management. Fuel Tech has tried to identify forward-looking statements by using words such as anticipate, believe, plan, expect, estimate, intend, will, and similar expressions, but these words are not the exclusive means of identifying forward-looking statements.

Devin Sullivan
Managing Director at The Equity Group

These statements are based on information currently available to Fuel Tech and are subject to various risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including, but not limited to, those discussed in Fuel Tech's annual report on Form 10-K in Item 1A under the caption of Risk Factors and Subsequent Filings under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which could cause Fuel Tech's actual growth, results of operations, financial condition, cash flows, performance, and business prospects and opportunities to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these statements. Fuel Tech undertakes no obligation to update such factors or to publicly announce the results of any forward-looking statements contained herein to reflect future events, developments, or changed circumstances, or for any other reason. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including those detailed in the company's filings with the SEC.

Devin Sullivan
Managing Director at The Equity Group

With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Vince Arnone. Vince, please go ahead.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Thank you, Devin. Good morning, and I'd like to thank everyone for joining us on the call today. Given that we last spoke not that long ago in connection with our year-end results, I'll keep my commentary brief today. Although we've begun the year more slowly than anticipated in our APC and FUEL CHEM business segments, we expect that our performance for these businesses will show steady improvement as we move through 2024. In addition, we are very encouraged by the progress we are making at our dissolved gas infusion, or DGI business initiative, and we ended the quarter in a very strong financial position with cash, cash equivalents, and investments of over $32 million and no long-term debt. Now, let's discuss our results for the Q1 in more detail.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

As a general statement, our results reflected the impact of customer-driven delays in the execution of existing contracts in our APC business segment, while our performance in FUEL CHEM was impacted detrimentally by historic warm weather across the US that affected unit dispatch and by unscheduled plant outages. For the APC segment, I remain pleased with our ongoing execution of existing projects and our team's current business development activities, which continue to reflect an increased focus on global emissions protocols across a variety of fuel sources. In 2023, we benefited from the continued adoption of our ULTRA, SCR, SNCR, and FGC emissions control solutions at natural gas and coal-fired units in the US, Europe, South Africa, and the Pacific Rim, and I expect this to continue into 2024 and beyond.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Independent of the potential impact of favorable regulatory outcomes, which I will discuss shortly, we are well positioned to take advantage of current industrial market trends, which include plant capacity expansion across several industries, the incentivized use of small turbines to replace traditional, less clean power generation, the development of the biocarbon industry, the continued emphasis on decarbonization on a global basis, and the focus on using our ULTRA systems as the safe source of ammonia for SCRs at hospitals and universities across the US We are providing proposals to customers for both near and longer-term needs, regardless of regulatory drivers, and we are currently watching the progress of $5 million to 10 million in APC contract opportunities that could close in our favor before the end of the second quarter or shortly thereafter.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Now, on the regulatory front, we continue to monitor progress related to the adoption of the US EPA's Cross-State Air Pollution Control regulation to meet the Good Neighbor requirements of the Clean Air Act, which we believe can be a potential catalyst for APC growth in 2024 and for the remainder of this decade, as utility and industrial customers explore ways to further reduce NOx emissions. Over the past several months, we have received and responded to multiple requests for budgetary proposals as customers prepare to address the upcoming compliance requirements as part of their capital budget planning for this year and beyond. As discussed on previous calls, the rule currently obligates 23 states to reduce emissions of nitrogen oxides from power plants and certain industrial facilities to limit their impact on downwind states.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

The ultimate timing of the effectiveness of the rule is uncertain, because several upwind affected states and sources have challenged the efficacy of EPA's proposed regulation in multiple courts, and stays of the effectiveness of the rule have been issued for many upwind states. In February of this year, oral arguments were presented to the Supreme Court by both sides, and we are closely monitoring the potential impact of the Supreme Court's ruling on whether to stay the rule for all states when it is issued later this year. In addition to the Good Neighbor Rule, we are also watching the progress of EPA's rule for large municipal waste combustor units, which is independent of the Good Neighbor Rule. This rule reduces the nitrogen oxide emissions requirements for large municipal waste combustor units.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Fuel Tech has had a long history of assisting this industry in meeting its compliance requirements, and we have had discussions with customers in this segment to support them in their compliance planning. The municipal waste combustor rule is currently in a public comment period, with compliance deadlines expected sometime in the next three years. Lastly, within the past two weeks, EPA has issued new stringent greenhouse gas emission standards that require 90% reductions for most new gas-fired plants and existing coal units by 2032. This same proposed rule tightens the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards requirements by 2028, wastewater discharge limits for coal-fired power plants by 2029, and ash handling and disposal from coal-fired power plants over the next several years.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

This combined rule comes at a time when there are projections of potential shortfalls in power generation over the next five to seven years in certain geographic regions in this country, due to data center power demands and increases in computing power requirements resulting from the adoption of artificial intelligence. And we are in the process of evaluating the potential impact of these rules across our technologies in the power generation market. Now for the Fuel Chem segment. Revenues declined from the prior year Q1, due to a decrease in operational demand from our client base, resulting from warm weather across the US and, to a lesser extent, unscheduled plant outages and closures compared to the same period in 2023.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

As mentioned on our last conference call, we have been pursuing multiple additional Fuel Chem development opportunities, which could provide incremental revenue contribution in the H2 of 2024 for both coal and biomass-fired boilers. I'm very pleased to say that we have received an order for our Fuel Chem demonstration at a new coal-fired power generation site in the Western US The demonstration is expected to commence later this month, and if it becomes a commercial account, is expected to generate annualized revenue of approximately $1.5 million to 2 million at historic Fuel Chem, Fuel Chem gross margins.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

In addition to this domestic opportunity, we are in discussions with one additional coal-fired power generation facility regarding a demonstration later this year, also in the Western US, and we are also pursuing an opportunity to address the concerns of a biomass-fired boiler operator. With respect to international Fuel Chem opportunities, we remain in discussions with our partner in Mexico to expand the provision of our chemical technology in that country. We expect that the nation's upcoming presidential election in June will provide us with additional clarity on the likelihood of this opportunity, as the favored candidate is an environmental engineer by background and could take a favorable position on the implementation of environmental policy. We will provide more color on this opportunity on our next conference call.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

As we move into the H2 of 2024, we expect Fuel Chem revenue to improve due to the increased power demand and associated unit dispatch that comes during the summer months, and to contributions from the new coal-fired unit demonstration that will commence later this month. With our DGI initiative, our momentum continues. Last month, we executed an agreement to commence and complete a demonstration of DGI at a municipal wastewater site. In this instance, our DGI solution will be used to reduce hydrogen sulfide in the wastewater via oxygenation to reduce corrosion inside the wastewater lines. This application will demonstrate DGI's capability to extend the life cycle of aging infrastructure and eliminate the need for costly maintenance activities. Following the successful demonstration of our technology at a US shrimp farming facility last year......

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

We are in discussions with the owners of that same facility to incorporate DGI into their commercial scale planned stacked raceway system. The client is expecting to have their aquaculture system functional by the end of the year, and we are in the process of providing a proposal for a DGI system that will meet the precise needs of this aquaculture environment. Additionally, for aquaculture, we are in discussions with a potential new aquaculture client in the US that is considering incorporating DGI into a greenfield fish hatchery site in the western states. There are many other target markets of interest for DGI, including pulp and paper, food and beverage, chemical, petrochemical, and horticulture, and we look forward to addressing these markets prospectively.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

On the marketing front, we have been increasing our efforts to communicate the benefits of DGI to targeted end markets and customers, and we will be present at additional conferences later this year. Based on our effective backlog today, the business development activities we are pursuing, and our previously noted expectations for FUEL CHEM, we expect that total revenues for 2024 will exceed the total revenues recognized in 2023 of $27.1 million, and we will provide further guidance as we move throughout 2024. This base case outlook excludes any material contributions from DGI, as we are still in the early stages of commercialization. Any significant contributions to APC from the above-referenced EPA regulations and the impact of material business development activities for FUEL CHEM.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

In closing, I want to thank the Fuel Tech team for their continued contributions to our business. It is their hard work, passion, and dedication that drive our ability to be successful as a company. Additionally, I thank our shareholders for their continued support. We continue to expect that 2024 will be an important year in the growth and development and evolution of Fuel Tech, and we look forward to keeping you apprised of our progress. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Ellen.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

Thank you, Vince, and good morning, everyone. For the quarter, consolidated revenues declined to $5 million from $7.3 million in last year's Q1, reflecting declines in both the APC and FUEL CHEM segments from the prior year period. APC segment revenue decreased to $2.3 million from $3.6 million in the Q1 of 2023, primarily related to customer-related delays and project execution. FUEL CHEM segment revenue declined to $2.6 million from $3.7 million in the Q1 of 2023, due to a decline in electrical generation demand and unscheduled plant outages.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

Consolidated gross margins for the Q1 were 41% of revenues, an increase from 38% in the Q1 of 2023, reflecting an increase in APC segment gross margin to 38% of segment revenues from 27% in the prior year period, due in large part to the mix of projects and services executed during the quarter. FUEL CHEM segment gross margin declined to 43% from 49% in the Q1 of 2023, as a direct result of lower segment revenue. We expect FUEL CHEM segment margins to return to historical levels as we continue throughout the year. Consolidated APC segment backlog on March 31st was $6.2 million, down from a backlog of $7.5 million at 31 December 2023.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

Backlog at 31 March 2024, included $1.8 million of domestically delivered project backlog and $4.4 million of foreign delivered project backlog, compared to $2.6 million of domestically delivered project backlog and $4.9 million of foreign delivered project backlog at December 31. We expect that $6 million of current consolidated backlog for the APC segment will be recognized in the next twelve months. SG&A expenses increased slightly to $3.3 million from $3.2 million in Q1 of 2023, reflecting higher employee-related expenditures. Given the decline in revenue, SG&A, as a percentage of revenue in the 2024 Q1, increased to 68% from 45% in the same prior year period.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

Research and development expenses for the Q1 rose to $376,000 from $218,000 in the same period a year ago, mainly reflecting our ongoing investment in the development of new technologies to expand our product offerings into the water and wastewater treatment markets, and more specifically, our DGI systems. Our operating loss was $1.7 million, compared to a loss of $658,000 in last year's Q1, reflecting a reduction in overall revenue, a shift in margin contribution from product mix, and slightly higher operating expenses for the quarter. We continue to take advantage of the favorable interest rate environment, and as of March 31st, have invested more than $30 million in held-to-maturity debt securities and money market funds.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

This generated $311,000 of interest income in the Q1, compared to $339,000 in the prior year period. Our net income for the quarter was $281,000, or $0.01 per share, compared to a net loss of $414,000, or a loss of $0.01 per share in the same period one year ago. Net income for the Q1 of 2024 included an extraordinary other income amount of $1.7 million, related to the recording of income associated with the expected receipt of the Employee Retention Credit during the quarter, as compared to an other expense of $90,000 in last year's Q1.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

For those of you not familiar with the employee retention credit, the CARES Act, established by the US government, was enacted to provide certain relief as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. This tax relief, along with other stimulus measures, allowed for employers to claim a refundable tax credit against the employer's share of Social Security tax for qualifying periods in 2020 and 2021, subject to certain criteria. Under the provision of the CARES Act, the company was eligible for a refundable employee retention credit, which was claimed in Q1 of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA loss was $1.5 million, compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $569,000 in the same period last year. Lastly, moving to the balance sheet, our financial condition remains very strong.

Ellen Albrecht
Ellen Albrecht
CFO at Fuel Tech

As of March 31, we had cash and cash equivalents of $11.4 million and short- and long-term investments totaling $20.7 million. Working capital was $27.7 million, or $0.90 per share. Stockholders' equity was $44 million, or $1.43 per share, and the company continues to have no outstanding debt. To reiterate Vince's earlier comments, we remain confident in our ability to fuel our growth initiatives, pursue new product and market opportunities, and maintain our strong financial position, which we view as an important competitive advantage, given ongoing macroeconomic uncertainties. We have a pipeline of significant growth opportunities across business segments that position us for positive growth in 2024. I'll now turn the call back over to Vince.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Thanks very much, Ellen. I would like now to turn the call back to Operator for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Good morning, Amit.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

Hey, hey, good morning. So with respect to, you know, I know weather-related issues, et cetera, you know, caused a little bit of weakness in 1Q, but overall, have you been adding new customers? It looks like in the FUEL CHEM segment, you may have added new customers. Just, Vince, maybe if you could give us some color on, you know, how that part of the business is holding up in terms of new customer additions, et cetera.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Right. I would say, in terms of adding new customers, this year is really, in terms of those types of opportunities, we're seeing more of them this year than we have in a little while, which is great for us to see at this point in time. As I mentioned, as part of my script, we just signed an order for a demonstration that will literally be starting in about two weeks time. So we're encouraged about that opportunity. It's a large coal-fired unit in the Western US. We're in discussions with a second coal-fired unit, similar geographic location, coal-fired, as I said, and also a large unit, and that possibly could start sometime in Q3.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

And then on top of that, we, we've had some discussions with some owners of biomass-fired boiler units as well, that also could be new business opportunities. So I would say this year is really the first year in a while that we're seeing a larger scale of new business opportunity. We have not seen that in the past couple of years. So it's a new outlook for us. It's driven by pressures for those remaining coal-fired utilities to reduce their cost structure. It's driven by the need for some units to be available to run as support power for certain regions of the country and other drivers as well. So I'm very pleased that we're seeing the Fuel Chem opportunities come in our direction.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

They are very solid gross margin-generating business opportunities, and I would love to be able to see total revenue from Fuel Chem kick back up to it was four or five years ago. I'm not saying it's going to get there, but and any addition that we can bring on board right now, particularly in a coal-fired unit, is a nice benefit for us. So long answer to your question.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

I appreciate that, Vince. You also mentioned, you know, sort of the increase in electricity demand stemming from AI and data needs, et cetera, that is underway at a macro level.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Yes.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

You have a balance sheet. You know, I know your immediate products may not directly cater to those opportunities, but are you thinking about, you know, any, acquisition opportunities that brings you closer to those types of opportunities going forward?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Nothing that we're looking at right now, Amit. When we talk about some of those macroeconomic trends, it ultimately is supporting some of the, call it, lengthening of the life of the utilization of a lot of the coal-fired units. That in its own right is going to hopefully mean additional business for Fuel Tech in our current technology suite. So we're looking at that macroeconomic trend in a favorable light as we sit here today. But we aren't necessarily pursuing any acquisitions that would, you know, provide us the ability to address other needs, if you will, that are driven by additional power demand, whether it be AI or data centers and the like.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Those trends are generally favorable for Fuel Tech, as are the trends in support of some additional environmental regulation.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

Understood. Thank you. Just last one for me. On the DGI side, it looks like you potentially could convert the pilot, right, shrimp farm into a customer. Like, how big should we think, you know, these order sizes can be when you deploy, you know, sort of a full system or a full-scale offering for these types of customers?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

To answer your question, yes, we are hopeful that we're able to go ahead and convert that demonstration, which was indeed successful, to a commercial sale. We're looking at putting the configuration together for a DGI system that will meet the needs of a commercial scale system for this shrimp farm owner, if you will. Right now, I probably see this as a capital sale, and I'm just going to give you a ballpark in terms of what this system would be offered at, and I'd say $500,000 to 1 million in terms of a capital sale of a DGI system, just to give you a ballpark range.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

Okay. And when these are deployed, Vince, do they also... Do you attach sort of maintenance type of, contracts or, you know, additional revenues?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Yeah. To the extent we're able to build in support, after-market contracts, we will. I still think we have a little bit to learn relative to the deployment of these systems at sites and the ongoing necessary maintenance that's going to be required. We're not expecting that it's going to be extensive at customer sites once it's up and running. But to the extent that we can provide ongoing support on a quarterly basis or whatever is needed via contracts that support that activity, we'll definitely look to do so.

Amit Dayal
Amit Dayal
Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

Okay. So that's all I have, Vince. Thank you so much.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Okay, Amit, thank you so much.

Operator

As a reminder, it is star one on your telephone keypad if you would like to ask a question. Our next question is from Mark Silk, with Silk Investment Advisors. Please proceed.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

Hi, Vince. Thanks for taking my questions.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Hi, Mark. No problem. How are you?

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

I'm doing fine, thank you. On the APC delays, is that really basically because of the court issues, or this is just a regular delay?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

I would say more regular delays. Yeah, not necessarily related to court issues. Because with the business that we were expecting to pull into 2024, we really didn't factor in anything that was going to be regulatory-driven. That would be what I would call incremental business opportunity for us, and we'll know more about that a little bit later on this year. So I would call the delays just normal delays in both project execution and in coming to contract with certain potential customers.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

Okay. That's encouraging. And then, in your guidance, you're basically not putting in there any positive court rulings, correct? So that could be-

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

That is correct.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

Surprisingly upside? Okay.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Correct.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

Great. On the FUEL CHEM, that's actually exciting that it's coming to life a little bit. You know, you laid out really the reasons, but another one I want to know is, is it because also there's not many other competitors anymore, but just because it's not a growing industry?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Actually, for this particular technology application market, there really aren't any competitors for what we do specifically with FUEL CHEM. But it requires a specific customer need for us to be utilized and our program is not inexpensive. But if we offer a client the ability to keep their units running during high-demand times, and by perhaps using a lesser quality coal or a difficult-to-burn coal, they recover the cost of our program very, very quickly. So no one else does what we do with this technology, but the very specific need isn't necessarily out there at all coal-fired units.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

Okay, that's great. And then, the... I'm intrigued by this municipal wastewater site. Can you talk more of this? Like, what are they looking for? What are you bringing to the table? That's the first question, and then we'll go from there.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Yeah. So the site we're looking to demonstrate at is, it's again, it's a municipal plant. And in certain stages of the treatment process, there are areas whereby the wastewater becomes less than oxygenated, or it has less oxygen than it needs to go ahead and maintain what I would call good quality water. And when in this part of the application, when it doesn't have the oxygen it needs, it actually creates hydrogen sulfide, and over time, hydrogen sulfide is going to erode the insides of those lines.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

So the application we're working on is specifically attempting to keep these feed lines, as part of the wastewater treatment plant, oxygenated at specific levels whereby they don't create any detrimental effects to that piping system.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

... So how do they find you, by the way?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

How do these guys find us? That's a good question. Actually, these folks were a contact of Bill Decker. Bill is the gentleman we hired last year to help us support the development of DGI. So these folks that we're working with are well-established in the water and wastewater treatment industry, and hopefully, they will turn out to be a good partner of Fuel Tech prospectively.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

So the interesting thing is, you know, with municipalities versus private industry, it's not a competitive, let's say, competition, right? So are you able to kind of work with them and say, "Listen, we want other municipalities to watch this," so it's more of an open trial, just 'cause it's gonna benefit really any water, I mean, so any municipality in the country?

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Yeah, we're really taking this step by step, right? But what we need is a first success, and once we have the first success, then we'll be able to work with that documented, science-based, data-driven result. And then we can expand on that documentation, if you will, with other municipalities. So I think we need to take the first step here and ensure we have a successful demonstration, and then we move forward from there.

Marc Silk
President at Silk Investment Advisors

Okay. And then I know last call, someone was asking about insider buying. So, hopefully, it sounds like, you, you're getting your ducks lined up, so hopefully we see some more insider buying. And, good luck going forward.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Okay, Mark. Thank you very much.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Arnone for closing comments.

Vincent Arnone
Vincent Arnone
Chairman, President and CEO at Fuel Tech

Thank you, operator. I'd like to thank everyone that joined the call today. I'd like to thank the entirety of the Fuel Tech team for their support on Fuel Tech's activities, and as usual, thank all of our stakeholders, shareholders for their continued support of Fuel Tech. Everyone, have a great day, and we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.

Executives
    • Ellen Albrecht
      Ellen Albrecht
      CFO
    • Vincent Arnone
      Vincent Arnone
      Chairman, President and CEO
Analysts
    • Amit Dayal
      Managing Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright
    • Devin Sullivan
      Managing Director at The Equity Group
    • Marc Silk
      President at Silk Investment Advisors
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