NASDAQ:INVZ Innoviz Technologies Q1 2024 Earnings Report $0.89 -0.01 (-1.33%) As of 02:02 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Innoviz Technologies EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.18Consensus EPS -$0.13Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/AInnoviz Technologies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$7.06 millionExpected Revenue$5.99 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.07 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AInnoviz Technologies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/8/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, May 8, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsInnoviz Technologies' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, August 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, July 30, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Innoviz Technologies Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. I would like to welcome you to our Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining us today are Omar Khailov, Chief Executive Officer and Eldar Segla, Chief Financial Officer. Following their opening remarks, we will open the call to your questions. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir. Operator00:00:30Innovis. Tech. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our discussion today will include forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties relating to future events and the future financial performance of Innovis. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in the forward looking statements. Forward looking statements made today speak only to our expectations as of today, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise them. Operator00:01:07For a discussion of some important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward looking statements, please see the Risk Factors section of our Form 20 F filed with the SEC on March 12, 2024. Omer, please? Speaker 100:01:29Thank you, Maja, Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. 1st quarter was a strong start for the fiscal year for Innovis. We achieved revenues above our guidance range for the 2nd consecutive quarter, once again expanded our relationships with key partners and customers, made significant progress on our strategic realignment and continue to build on our RFI and RFQ pipeline. We had another basic quarter full of activity with our teams traveling globally throughout Japan, China, Korea, Europe and the U. Speaker 100:02:02S. To meet with existing and potential new customers. Meanwhile, we've been super focused on supporting RFQs across multiple programs. The team also made significant progress in continuing to develop and test our technology in line with our commitment to provide best in class technology to our customers. Beginning with our top line performance, we delivered revenues of $7,100,000 up from $1,000,000 in Q1 2023 and above the guidance range of $5,000,000 to $6,000,000 we provided last quarter. Speaker 100:02:38Driven by a combination of NREs, samples and product shipments, these results demonstrate the potential power of this 3 pronged approach to growing future revenue streams. I'll now pivot to a new a few customer and partner updates. As we shared last quarter, the BMW I7 has launched in Germany, and we expect BMW to share user experience feedback in the coming weeks. While other LiDAR companies have reached SOP allowing level 2, we believe that as of today, we're the only pure play LiDAR company to reach SOP with level 3, with vehicles already on the road using our lighters and perception software. During the quarter, we continued supporting software development specific to the deployment of Innovis 1 on BMW 5 series vehicles in China. Speaker 100:03:29We continue to see China as a catalyst to accelerate the use of ladders in the move towards level 3 autonomy. And we are working closely with the BMW and Magna teams, which are performing the on road testing specific to the Chinese market. We believe once China approves Level 3 autonomy, the reaction will be similar to what we saw happen with EVs. In fact, at least 12 global and local brands including BMW have Level 3 testing licenses across 7 locations in China. With Volkswagen. Speaker 100:04:01As you know, we secured the Series Production Award in 2022 for carryout for different VW brands, which is a passenger vehicle level 3 high volume program based on Qualcomm platform. We also previously disclosed that our 2nd program with the VW Group is the ID Bus, light commercial vehicle program. It will be a level 4 program with multiple long range LIDARs per vehicle planned to launch in 2026. In previous quarters, we discussed additional opportunities for expansions. I'm pleased to share that we are working on yet another expansion through our collaboration with In parallel, we continue commercial discussions with VW Group. Speaker 100:04:51This progress may add significant additional volume with more developed platforms and sample shipments, which will help fund our efforts to volume ramp up. Meanwhile, we are actively working on several exciting new opportunities within the Volkswagen Group, in addition to the 3 opportunities I just mentioned. Regarding Mobileye, during the quarter, Mobileye announced another win with our future customer Volkswagen. Specifically, they announced that they will offer certain production ready functions for the new Level 3 software platform. Mobileye also announced that they will supply their software in Harvard to Volkswagen for the implementation into the Level 4 drive platform ID Buzz. Speaker 100:05:37Their goal is to bring self driving ID Buzz vehicles for ride hailing services to series production in 26. We have a close relationship with both Mobileye and Volkswagen Group. Our products are already integrated into both of their platforms through the ID BaaS program, which we believe allows us faster integration into additional opportunities such as the Level 3 program mentioned earlier. Overall, we are pleased to see one of our key partners and one of our key customers deepen their relationship. We continue to see long potential runways for growth with both Volkswagen, Brooke and Mobil. Speaker 100:06:18And as I said earlier, we are working with the Qualcomm platform for the VW carrier program and we are working with the Mobileye platform for the ID Bus and the additional Level 3 program. We are hopeful that we will benefit from these collaborations across other programs with additional OEMs. And I would like also to update that we are making progress on our collaboration with NVIDIA. And we are working with OEMs on several NVIDIA based RFQs in our pipeline. We believe that our collaboration with NVIDIA and these OEMs could present another opportunity for growth and expansions. Speaker 100:06:53I'll now touch on our RFI and RFQ pipeline. Our pipeline is very active, and we are continuing to mature 10 to 15 programs in the pipeline. Most of these are level 3 passenger vehicles. I'm happy to share that about 50% of our pipeline is in the RFQ stage. We're deepening relationships with existing customers while working towards additional programs with potential new customers. Speaker 100:07:18Last quarter, we shared that there were 2 programs for a global deployment of Level 3 vehicles, where the decision timelines were pushed into 2024. We continue to work closely with these OEMs and are confident in our position within these RFQs. In addition to the level 3 opportunities, we would like to highlight 2 Level 4 opportunities in the pipeline that progressed well during the quarter. Those opportunities are with 2 leading Level 4 platform companies in the tracking and ride hailing spaces who are working with various OEMs. Certainly, there is a lot to be excited about. Speaker 100:07:51Importantly, for each potential program we are quoting, whether it's with a new customer or an expansion with an existing one or quoting with an ORIS. This is significant because with the cash we have on hand, together with these potential new business opportunities, we feel confident in our ability to execute our strategy within the remainder of the market capture window. I'll now share a few recent observations on the driver sector. We're very optimistic as we are seeing continuous progress with various platforms and programs. As a result, we believe that the meaningful percentage of vehicles in the market will be a quick multiplier by 2,030. Speaker 100:08:33To that end, according to the S&P Global Research, in 2,030, approximately 10,000,000 LiDAR scanners across various autonomy levels are expected to be sold globally in the automotive market. They also expect the number of LiDAR scanners sold in 2,035 to be more than double that. Now pivoting to a recent industry development. At the end of last month, the U. S. Speaker 100:08:57National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, VITSA, announced a new motor vehicle safety standard that will require all new light vehicles to have automatic emergency braking system as of September, 2029. This requirement standardizes a crucial safety feature. It is intended to save lives and prevent injuries by automatically breaking a vehicle when a crash with another vehicle and pedestrian or pedestrian is imminent. What is important to highlight here about the new publication is the fact that NHTSA rule adopts testing requirements of emergency braking systems, which should include compliance in both daylight and dark conditions. As part of the commentary received by NHTSA, the other coalition stated that the Insurance Institute For Highway Safety found that in darkest conditions, camera and radar based pedestrian emergency braking system fail in every instant to detect pedestrians. Speaker 100:09:57Automatic emergency braking systems use sensors to detect objects in front of the vehicle, and we believe LiDAR could provide the technical capabilities to successfully meet this requirement in any weather and lighting conditions. We believe that OEMs work to comply with new regulations. And as the entire automotive industry raises its standards, OEMs will move to implement new capabilities and features, many of which would probably be supported only by LIDAR. At Innovies, we are optimistic about our ability to position ourselves to capitalize on future opportunities for LIDAR. Now moving to the latest update from our winter testing of the Innovis 2b sample with our 2nd generation custom ASIC and our computer vision AI software in Europe. Speaker 100:10:45As we recently announced, we reached a key milestone after our team successfully completed the winter testing for Innovis 2. The test spent 18 days of driving across 10 countries, demonstrating the robustness and reliability of our technology in the harshest winter conditions. Inovis 2 is reaching maturity and is approaching its design 3 stage for automotive grade applications as supported by the results of this winter testing. We believe only the most mature and well developed technologies are able to perform safely and effectively in such strenuous testing. Innovis 2 showed resilience in different weather conditions and to potential blockages including rain, snow and dirt. Speaker 100:11:29We believe that this could be a distinct competitive advantage for us in the industry. The data and insights accumulated during the testing are being used to improve Innovac's proprietary AI backed software and hardware solutions. With the successful completion of the advanced winter testing, we've overcome a big hurdle that is challenging for any automotive component producer. We're excited to move our technology to the next stage of development. I want to briefly touch on the progress we've made on the strategic realignment of our operations announced last quarter, And I will provide more color on this shortly as well. Speaker 100:12:10As of today, we implemented nearly all of our initiatives of our realignment plan. In line with our plan, we have reduced our investment in the development of Innovis 1 and are reallocating part of the savings to the development of the Innovis 2 sensor, and perception software platform. This includes different configurations of the Inovis 2, such as the level 3 long range, short range and trucks, and as well as the implementation of our sensors at lower height and behind the windshield with the Inovis 2 slim. We've also integrated our hardware and software development units into a combined R and D department. Taken together, we delivered a decrease in cash burn compared to the Q1 of 2023. Speaker 100:12:58Wrapping up with our guidance for the Q2 of 2024. As a reminder, we have reverted to providing quarterly revenue guidance instead of annual revenue guidance. We expect Q2 of 2024 revenue in the range of $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 compared to $1,500,000 for Q2 2023. We continue to expect full year 2024 revenues to be more back half weighted based on channel fill and customer activity. We also expect there will be continued lumpiness due to the typical cadence of NREs. Speaker 100:13:30Last quarter, we were also guided to 2 to 3 additional programs from both existing and new customers and $20,000,000 to $70,000,000 of new NRE bookings in 2024. Given our strong start to the fiscal year and the momentum we're building in our pipeline, we continue to believe that we are on track to meet those targets this year. With that, I'll turn the call over to Hidalgo to review our Q1 2024 Speaker 200:13:54Financials. Thank you, Omer, and good morning, everyone. Starting with cash, we ended Q1 2024 with approximately $128,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, bank deposit, marketable securities and short term restricted cash on the balance sheet. As Omar mentioned, our continued solid revenue performance plus the efficiencies achieved from our operational realignment led to a decreased level of cash burn compared to Q1 2023, with cash used in operations and capital expenditure coming in at $23,000,000 compared to $29,000,000 in Q1 'twenty three. And with Innovis 1 now in serious production, all quoting and bidding activities in our RFI and RFQ pipeline are focused on Enovese 2 platform. Speaker 200:14:54As we remain in this critical market capture windows you have heard us talk about in the past, we are maintaining the appropriate level of flexibility to demonstrate we can meet customer evolving needs. The realignment has made Innovis a more efficient company, and we are laser focused on the Innovis 2 platform. Moving to the income statement, revenues in Q1 2024 were $7,100,000 which is approximately 18% higher than our guidance range. This is a significant increase compared to Q1 2023 revenue of $1,000,000 demonstrating the positive financial trajectory we are delivering. Our operating expenses for Q1 2024 were $31,700,000 a decrease of 5% from $33,300,000 in Q1 2023. Speaker 200:15:54This quarter's operating expenses included $5,900,000 of share based compensation compared to $5,200,000 in Q1 2023. Research and development expenses for Q1 2024 were $23,800,000 a decrease from $26,100,000 in Q1 2023. The quarter's R and D expenses included $3,800,000 attributable to share based compensation compared to $3,500,000 in Q1 2023. As you can see, we have maintained decreased levels of operating and R and D expenses. We expect to keep our expenses at these levels in the coming months. Speaker 200:16:41To summarize, we are pleased by the continued strength of our financial performance. And moving forward, we will remain disciplined and run an efficient organization with the goal of optimizing our competitive positioning while maintaining a healthy cash position. And with that, I'll hand it back to Omar before we open up the calls for Q and A. Speaker 100:17:07Thank you, Eldar. Before I conclude, I'm pleased to share that Innovis was selected by the EcoMotion community to host the EcoMotion Assembly at Innovis headquarters on the 4th June. The EcoMotion Assembly is an auto technology conference hosted in Israel that brings together many OEMs, auto and technology companies from across the global mobility ecosystem to learn, share knowledge and developments and look ahead towards shaping the future of mobility. We are honored to host this prestigious conference this year and look forward to continuing to support and strengthen the international mobility ecosystem. We encourage you to visit the EcoMotion website for additional information and hope that you will join us. Speaker 100:17:53To wrap up my remarks. As you've heard, Q1 was another busy and productive quarter for Innovis, with many engagements with existing and potential customers in different regions. We are already in the middle of the Q2, and we are continuing to advance opportunities across different programs, and we look forward to sharing more positive updates going forward. We believe that we are well positioned with our customers and partners to win additional programs and cement our place as a leading ladder supplier during the market capture phase. As the market comes to appreciate this positioning and understands the growing importance of lighter across various applications with tailwinds coming from new regulatory requirements, we believe that the perception of the LIDAR sector by the capital markets will increasingly reflect the sector's opportunity. Speaker 100:18:40And with that, operator, then turn it on to the Q and A. Quinney. Thank you. Speaker 300:19:01Our first question today comes from the line of Mark Delaney of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:19:11Yes. Good morning and good afternoon. Thank you very much for taking the questions. I'm hoping for more details on how Innovus progressing with its RFQ opportunities. The company reiterated its goal of winning 2 to 3 more programs this year. Speaker 400:19:23Could you please speak to what may need to happen for this to be realized and your confidence in getting there? Moreover, I'd like to better understand if the types of programs Innovus expects to win this year has shifted given the commentary on potential L4 wins as I thought many of the key RFQ opportunities were for L2 and L3 ADAS applications. And said another way, have your opportunities for consumer ADAS awards changed at all? Or is it more about an expansion of what you could win in L4? Speaker 100:19:45Okay. Actually, thank you, Mark, and thanks for joining us. No, actually, I want to start with the last question. We're highlighting the Level 4 opportunities because those actually made very significant progress in the last quarter. And in a way, we're expecting them to converge. Speaker 100:20:03And we wanted to highlight as not to surprise when things might happen. Levels most of as we said, most of our RFQ and RFI pipeline are focused on level 3, and that's where we see most of the activity. In terms of the 2 to 3 opportunities that we're expected to get this year, So I just talked about another opportunity within the VW program with the Mobileye Level 3. It's quite a big program that we're very happy to step into, which will provide us additional volumes. And obviously, we're very happy about that. Speaker 100:20:41And we said that there are actually additional opportunities with VW. It's really exciting to see how VW as a group can offer so many opportunities for Alpha growth. But other than that, we talked about the 2 other Level 3 programs that we were expected to convert by end of last year, And we're still working with those customers very closely. What needs to happen in order to conclude this process, It's basically still in many discussions that are related to design and manufacturing. And we are supporting the customers in order to allow them to converge the process as early as they can. Speaker 400:21:22That's helpful. Thank you for that. My other question was to better understand your expectations for cash use this year. And what would happen to cash flow over the next 6 to 12 months if the company has success converting on some of those NRE bookings opportunities you're guiding for? Speaker 200:21:37So we have completed our realignment program and we expect to see some benefits from this cost reduction. And as I mentioned, we are expecting to see the cash or the expenditures to be similar to what we saw until now and maybe even better if we are available to show that in the next few months. So all in all, I would expect that this year we will be very disciplined and we will be able to keep our budget as we planned. And as said before, obviously, we have enough on our hands in order to capture the market or use the opportunity and execute on the strategic plans we have and hopefully able to secure additional wins. Speaker 100:22:40By the way, maybe I can add something that you might find interesting. While some of those decisions are taking longer, some of the NREs that we're able to collect are coming from programs that we are asked to continue working on them in order not to allow any delay in our work to support those programs. Speaker 400:23:03Thank you. I'll pass it on. Speaker 300:23:06Thank you. Our next question today comes from the line of Andreas Sheppard of Cantor. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:23:15Hey, Omar. Hey, Eldar. Good afternoon. Great to see you both again and congratulations on the quarter and thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to maybe just confirm the timeline for some of your OEM agreements, obviously both BMW being the maybe the more near term, but just can you just remind us what is the timeline for the ramp up in revenues in Volkswagen, the Asian OEM and then the robo taxi? Speaker 500:23:49Just wanted to not sure if those have changed or just wanted to maybe confirm those real quick. Thank you. Speaker 100:23:55So we didn't give a definite time line for each one separately. We gave only for those that were communicated by the customer online. Obviously, BMW launch was communicated, and we're expecting to get more insight from the I would say, the feedback from the ground. We're obviously excited to see our product already out in the wild. And being the only pure play ladder company that already managed to get to deployment on SOP of a Level 3 program. Speaker 100:24:27I think it's a very significant milestone for us as a company, as a leading company in this category. In terms of VWs, we talked about the 2026 timeline for the ID Buzz. We said similar timeline for the Level 3 program. We didn't disclose additional timelines for the rest. Speaker 500:24:50Got it. Okay. No, that's helpful. I appreciate that. And maybe a question for Eldar. Speaker 500:24:57How should we think about gross margins, OpEx and CapEx for this year? As it pertains to gross margins, what does the path to positive gross margins look like? I understand, obviously, it's a combination of volume, but just curious if you have maybe some color that you can share? And then on OpEx, should we expect that number to be lower now or maybe even significantly lower than last year given the realignment? And then just lastly is the just the CapEx, looks like this quarter was a little bit lower than Q1 last year. Speaker 500:25:40Just curious how we should think about that for this year as well? Thank you. Speaker 200:25:44So obviously, I'm expecting the realignment impacting our OpEx expenditures. So this is definitely part of what we would project for this year. In terms of margins, a significant part of our revenues comes from NRE. And NRE at Innovis are positively affecting our gross margins. So we are expecting to have additional NREs and additional positive contribution to our gross margins as we gain more and more NREs. Speaker 200:26:33And I'm not sure what was CapEx, the last one. Yeah, yeah. CapEx CapEx will be stable. We are not expecting a huge CapEx for this year increase from last year as we are relatively CapEx light. We are using contract manufacturers. Speaker 100:26:56So this should be stable. Our strategy related to working with contract manufacturing has been very strong for us. It allows us to be very flexible with different customers who want us to be able to serve them from different locations without making a huge investment on each one separately, working with contract manufacturers as partners with the right expertise and the existing facilities that are already automotive grade, allowing us to save CapEx, as Ildar mentioned, but also get faster to the market. Speaker 500:27:36All right. That's helpful. And just to clarify, so you said you expect CapEx this year to be lower than last year or flat? Speaker 200:27:45No, it's similar. Speaker 500:27:46Oh, similar. Okay, got it. Okay, that's helpful. Thanks guys. Congratulations again. Speaker 500:27:51I'll pass it on. Speaker 100:27:52Thank you. Speaker 300:27:54Thank you. Our next question today comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy of Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:28:04Yes. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on the results. Just for the new ruling from the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, automatic emergency braking, would the cars that you're in today, so the BMW and VW, would those qualify? Speaker 100:28:25Definitely. Obviously, with the use of LiDAR enables this functionality in different weather conditions and lighting conditions. So definitely, it should supply fulfill the needs. Speaker 600:28:38Okay. So do you see this type of ruling moving into other countries? Speaker 100:28:45I believe that's a trend that I'll expect to see growing, also new ruling on new features. I think that the benefit of using life saving technologies is a proof of the capabilities. And I'm sure that the desire to improve and reduce the challenges related to unnecessary accidents is something that will continue to improve. I believe that basically that's why we're here. Eventually, there's no need for car accidents that can be avoided and technologies are already available. Speaker 100:29:24And I'm sure that those willing would only continue. Speaker 600:29:28Okay, great. And can you break out the revenue for the $7,100,000 for March from NRE to production and same with the for your outlook for June? Speaker 200:29:45So a significant part is NRE. We didn't break it down. Significant part is NRE, but it consists of 3 elements: a) the Innovis 1 components that we provide Magna for BMW, samples that we are selling in ever growing numbers and NREs, which are the most significant part of our revenues. And this is our expectation going forward. 3 elements with at least this year NRE leading the most part of the revenues. Speaker 600:30:24Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 300:30:36Our next question today comes from the line of Kevin Garrigan of Westpark Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:30:45Hi, Kevin. Yes. Hey, Omer. Hey, Alder. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 700:30:49Let me echo my congrats on the progress. On the successful winter test, did you guys get a lot more interest from OEMs after you completed the test? Speaker 100:30:58I think that the results that we're able to show to customers is getting, I would say, applause. We are very much aware on the challenges that might happen when you go into those extreme conditions. I think that for a very sensitive and complex system like a LIDAR, going through winter testing in these conditions is a very challenging task. And being able to show the results in such a positive way definitely get a lot of interest. I'm aware of many challenges that others have gone through, not even being able to start those tests in one time. Speaker 100:31:41I think that us being able to go and I mean, one of the challenges of winter testing is that you actually need to meet winter. You can't do that in the summer. And if you miss winter testing, your program might be delayed by a year. And being able to meet the timeline and successfully and not need to wait another year to do that again is super important. And I think that as I mentioned on the earlier, one of the key issues with riders when you go into such conditions is blockages. Speaker 100:32:16And I emphasize that because I don't think that people are aware on that challenge. Whenever there is a blockage that can come from snow, dirt, sometimes even drop of water, Some lidars might be blocked, even if it's partially their field of view, and that completely invalid the availability of the system. And it means that the driver needs to take control back for anything that might happen. If the system is highly sensitive to those situations, it means the availability of level 3 is at very low probability. Very statistically, it means that the driver needs to engage too many times, and it's a very poor user experience. Speaker 100:32:58Our ability to work in those conditions, even when our window is covered by almost 25% to 50% and still provide very well, very good visibility without any holes in the field of view It's quite remarkable. And these are things that we're very happy to show to our customers and give them the understanding that using our LIDAR will give them very high availability of the system in those conditions. I think it's something that definitely will help us going forward this year. Speaker 700:33:31Yes, that makes perfect sense. And congrats again on leading that test. On a separate question, can you guys kind of give us a sense of the breakdown between EVs and ICE platforms that are within the 10 to 15 RFIs and RFQs? Are most of those programs kind of geared more towards electric vehicles? Speaker 100:33:50I don't think there is any major bucket in those programs. Of course, the system is very agnostic to which type of driving, if it's combustion or engine or EV. So we don't really care which car is used. And specifically, with the programs that we already have with our customers, some of them are combustion and some of them are EVs. And definitely, I don't think there is a very clear majority between 1 or another. Speaker 300:34:37That does conclude our question and answer sessions for today. Please proceed. Okay. Speaker 100:34:44Thank you very much, everyone. We look forward for the next quarter to share with you our updates. Thank you very Speaker 200:34:50much. Thank you.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Innovis delivered $7.1 million in Q1 2024 revenue, up from $1 million in Q1 2023 and exceeding its $5–6 million guidance, driven by a blend of NREs, sample shipments and product sales. The company achieved start of production with Level 3 LiDAR on the BMW i7 in Germany and is supporting deployments on BMW 5-series vehicles in China, making it the only pure-play LiDAR provider at SOP for Level 3 autonomy. Its RFQ/RFI pipeline includes 10–15 programs—about 50% in RFQ stage—with multiple Level 3 passenger vehicle bids and two advancing Level 4 opportunities, in collaboration with partners such as VW (including a 2026 Level 4 ID Buzz), Mobileye, Qualcomm and NVIDIA. Innovis completed an 18-day winter test of its second-generation Innovis 2 sensor across 10 European countries, demonstrating resilience in rain, snow and sensor blockages, and is progressing toward automotive-grade certification. Following a strategic realignment, the company reduced R&D expenses and cash burn, ended Q1 with approximately $128 million in cash, and reaffirmed Q2 2024 revenue guidance of $4–5 million while targeting $20–70 million in new NRE bookings and 2–3 program wins for the year. A.I. generated. 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Email Address About Innoviz TechnologiesInnoviz Technologies (NASDAQ:INVZ) manufactures and sells automotive grade LiDAR sensors and perception software to enable safe autonomous driving at a mass scale. The company offers InnovizOne, a solid-state LiDAR sensor designed for automakers and robotaxis, shuttles, trucks, and delivery companies requiring an automotive-grade and mass-producible solution to achieve autonomy. It also provides InnovizTwo, an automotive-grade LiDAR sensor that offers a solution for all levels of autonomous driving, as well as an option to integrate the perception application in the LiDAR sensor; and perception application, a software application that raw point cloud data from Innoviz LiDAR products into perception outputs. The company operates in Europe, Asia Pacific, the Middle East, Africa, and North America. It markets and sells its products through a direct sales organization, as well as through distribution channels. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. I would like to welcome you to our Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining us today are Omar Khailov, Chief Executive Officer and Eldar Segla, Chief Financial Officer. Following their opening remarks, we will open the call to your questions. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir. Operator00:00:30Innovis. Tech. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our discussion today will include forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties relating to future events and the future financial performance of Innovis. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in the forward looking statements. Forward looking statements made today speak only to our expectations as of today, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise them. Operator00:01:07For a discussion of some important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward looking statements, please see the Risk Factors section of our Form 20 F filed with the SEC on March 12, 2024. Omer, please? Speaker 100:01:29Thank you, Maja, Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. 1st quarter was a strong start for the fiscal year for Innovis. We achieved revenues above our guidance range for the 2nd consecutive quarter, once again expanded our relationships with key partners and customers, made significant progress on our strategic realignment and continue to build on our RFI and RFQ pipeline. We had another basic quarter full of activity with our teams traveling globally throughout Japan, China, Korea, Europe and the U. Speaker 100:02:02S. To meet with existing and potential new customers. Meanwhile, we've been super focused on supporting RFQs across multiple programs. The team also made significant progress in continuing to develop and test our technology in line with our commitment to provide best in class technology to our customers. Beginning with our top line performance, we delivered revenues of $7,100,000 up from $1,000,000 in Q1 2023 and above the guidance range of $5,000,000 to $6,000,000 we provided last quarter. Speaker 100:02:38Driven by a combination of NREs, samples and product shipments, these results demonstrate the potential power of this 3 pronged approach to growing future revenue streams. I'll now pivot to a new a few customer and partner updates. As we shared last quarter, the BMW I7 has launched in Germany, and we expect BMW to share user experience feedback in the coming weeks. While other LiDAR companies have reached SOP allowing level 2, we believe that as of today, we're the only pure play LiDAR company to reach SOP with level 3, with vehicles already on the road using our lighters and perception software. During the quarter, we continued supporting software development specific to the deployment of Innovis 1 on BMW 5 series vehicles in China. Speaker 100:03:29We continue to see China as a catalyst to accelerate the use of ladders in the move towards level 3 autonomy. And we are working closely with the BMW and Magna teams, which are performing the on road testing specific to the Chinese market. We believe once China approves Level 3 autonomy, the reaction will be similar to what we saw happen with EVs. In fact, at least 12 global and local brands including BMW have Level 3 testing licenses across 7 locations in China. With Volkswagen. Speaker 100:04:01As you know, we secured the Series Production Award in 2022 for carryout for different VW brands, which is a passenger vehicle level 3 high volume program based on Qualcomm platform. We also previously disclosed that our 2nd program with the VW Group is the ID Bus, light commercial vehicle program. It will be a level 4 program with multiple long range LIDARs per vehicle planned to launch in 2026. In previous quarters, we discussed additional opportunities for expansions. I'm pleased to share that we are working on yet another expansion through our collaboration with In parallel, we continue commercial discussions with VW Group. Speaker 100:04:51This progress may add significant additional volume with more developed platforms and sample shipments, which will help fund our efforts to volume ramp up. Meanwhile, we are actively working on several exciting new opportunities within the Volkswagen Group, in addition to the 3 opportunities I just mentioned. Regarding Mobileye, during the quarter, Mobileye announced another win with our future customer Volkswagen. Specifically, they announced that they will offer certain production ready functions for the new Level 3 software platform. Mobileye also announced that they will supply their software in Harvard to Volkswagen for the implementation into the Level 4 drive platform ID Buzz. Speaker 100:05:37Their goal is to bring self driving ID Buzz vehicles for ride hailing services to series production in 26. We have a close relationship with both Mobileye and Volkswagen Group. Our products are already integrated into both of their platforms through the ID BaaS program, which we believe allows us faster integration into additional opportunities such as the Level 3 program mentioned earlier. Overall, we are pleased to see one of our key partners and one of our key customers deepen their relationship. We continue to see long potential runways for growth with both Volkswagen, Brooke and Mobil. Speaker 100:06:18And as I said earlier, we are working with the Qualcomm platform for the VW carrier program and we are working with the Mobileye platform for the ID Bus and the additional Level 3 program. We are hopeful that we will benefit from these collaborations across other programs with additional OEMs. And I would like also to update that we are making progress on our collaboration with NVIDIA. And we are working with OEMs on several NVIDIA based RFQs in our pipeline. We believe that our collaboration with NVIDIA and these OEMs could present another opportunity for growth and expansions. Speaker 100:06:53I'll now touch on our RFI and RFQ pipeline. Our pipeline is very active, and we are continuing to mature 10 to 15 programs in the pipeline. Most of these are level 3 passenger vehicles. I'm happy to share that about 50% of our pipeline is in the RFQ stage. We're deepening relationships with existing customers while working towards additional programs with potential new customers. Speaker 100:07:18Last quarter, we shared that there were 2 programs for a global deployment of Level 3 vehicles, where the decision timelines were pushed into 2024. We continue to work closely with these OEMs and are confident in our position within these RFQs. In addition to the level 3 opportunities, we would like to highlight 2 Level 4 opportunities in the pipeline that progressed well during the quarter. Those opportunities are with 2 leading Level 4 platform companies in the tracking and ride hailing spaces who are working with various OEMs. Certainly, there is a lot to be excited about. Speaker 100:07:51Importantly, for each potential program we are quoting, whether it's with a new customer or an expansion with an existing one or quoting with an ORIS. This is significant because with the cash we have on hand, together with these potential new business opportunities, we feel confident in our ability to execute our strategy within the remainder of the market capture window. I'll now share a few recent observations on the driver sector. We're very optimistic as we are seeing continuous progress with various platforms and programs. As a result, we believe that the meaningful percentage of vehicles in the market will be a quick multiplier by 2,030. Speaker 100:08:33To that end, according to the S&P Global Research, in 2,030, approximately 10,000,000 LiDAR scanners across various autonomy levels are expected to be sold globally in the automotive market. They also expect the number of LiDAR scanners sold in 2,035 to be more than double that. Now pivoting to a recent industry development. At the end of last month, the U. S. Speaker 100:08:57National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, VITSA, announced a new motor vehicle safety standard that will require all new light vehicles to have automatic emergency braking system as of September, 2029. This requirement standardizes a crucial safety feature. It is intended to save lives and prevent injuries by automatically breaking a vehicle when a crash with another vehicle and pedestrian or pedestrian is imminent. What is important to highlight here about the new publication is the fact that NHTSA rule adopts testing requirements of emergency braking systems, which should include compliance in both daylight and dark conditions. As part of the commentary received by NHTSA, the other coalition stated that the Insurance Institute For Highway Safety found that in darkest conditions, camera and radar based pedestrian emergency braking system fail in every instant to detect pedestrians. Speaker 100:09:57Automatic emergency braking systems use sensors to detect objects in front of the vehicle, and we believe LiDAR could provide the technical capabilities to successfully meet this requirement in any weather and lighting conditions. We believe that OEMs work to comply with new regulations. And as the entire automotive industry raises its standards, OEMs will move to implement new capabilities and features, many of which would probably be supported only by LIDAR. At Innovies, we are optimistic about our ability to position ourselves to capitalize on future opportunities for LIDAR. Now moving to the latest update from our winter testing of the Innovis 2b sample with our 2nd generation custom ASIC and our computer vision AI software in Europe. Speaker 100:10:45As we recently announced, we reached a key milestone after our team successfully completed the winter testing for Innovis 2. The test spent 18 days of driving across 10 countries, demonstrating the robustness and reliability of our technology in the harshest winter conditions. Inovis 2 is reaching maturity and is approaching its design 3 stage for automotive grade applications as supported by the results of this winter testing. We believe only the most mature and well developed technologies are able to perform safely and effectively in such strenuous testing. Innovis 2 showed resilience in different weather conditions and to potential blockages including rain, snow and dirt. Speaker 100:11:29We believe that this could be a distinct competitive advantage for us in the industry. The data and insights accumulated during the testing are being used to improve Innovac's proprietary AI backed software and hardware solutions. With the successful completion of the advanced winter testing, we've overcome a big hurdle that is challenging for any automotive component producer. We're excited to move our technology to the next stage of development. I want to briefly touch on the progress we've made on the strategic realignment of our operations announced last quarter, And I will provide more color on this shortly as well. Speaker 100:12:10As of today, we implemented nearly all of our initiatives of our realignment plan. In line with our plan, we have reduced our investment in the development of Innovis 1 and are reallocating part of the savings to the development of the Innovis 2 sensor, and perception software platform. This includes different configurations of the Inovis 2, such as the level 3 long range, short range and trucks, and as well as the implementation of our sensors at lower height and behind the windshield with the Inovis 2 slim. We've also integrated our hardware and software development units into a combined R and D department. Taken together, we delivered a decrease in cash burn compared to the Q1 of 2023. Speaker 100:12:58Wrapping up with our guidance for the Q2 of 2024. As a reminder, we have reverted to providing quarterly revenue guidance instead of annual revenue guidance. We expect Q2 of 2024 revenue in the range of $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 compared to $1,500,000 for Q2 2023. We continue to expect full year 2024 revenues to be more back half weighted based on channel fill and customer activity. We also expect there will be continued lumpiness due to the typical cadence of NREs. Speaker 100:13:30Last quarter, we were also guided to 2 to 3 additional programs from both existing and new customers and $20,000,000 to $70,000,000 of new NRE bookings in 2024. Given our strong start to the fiscal year and the momentum we're building in our pipeline, we continue to believe that we are on track to meet those targets this year. With that, I'll turn the call over to Hidalgo to review our Q1 2024 Speaker 200:13:54Financials. Thank you, Omer, and good morning, everyone. Starting with cash, we ended Q1 2024 with approximately $128,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, bank deposit, marketable securities and short term restricted cash on the balance sheet. As Omar mentioned, our continued solid revenue performance plus the efficiencies achieved from our operational realignment led to a decreased level of cash burn compared to Q1 2023, with cash used in operations and capital expenditure coming in at $23,000,000 compared to $29,000,000 in Q1 'twenty three. And with Innovis 1 now in serious production, all quoting and bidding activities in our RFI and RFQ pipeline are focused on Enovese 2 platform. Speaker 200:14:54As we remain in this critical market capture windows you have heard us talk about in the past, we are maintaining the appropriate level of flexibility to demonstrate we can meet customer evolving needs. The realignment has made Innovis a more efficient company, and we are laser focused on the Innovis 2 platform. Moving to the income statement, revenues in Q1 2024 were $7,100,000 which is approximately 18% higher than our guidance range. This is a significant increase compared to Q1 2023 revenue of $1,000,000 demonstrating the positive financial trajectory we are delivering. Our operating expenses for Q1 2024 were $31,700,000 a decrease of 5% from $33,300,000 in Q1 2023. Speaker 200:15:54This quarter's operating expenses included $5,900,000 of share based compensation compared to $5,200,000 in Q1 2023. Research and development expenses for Q1 2024 were $23,800,000 a decrease from $26,100,000 in Q1 2023. The quarter's R and D expenses included $3,800,000 attributable to share based compensation compared to $3,500,000 in Q1 2023. As you can see, we have maintained decreased levels of operating and R and D expenses. We expect to keep our expenses at these levels in the coming months. Speaker 200:16:41To summarize, we are pleased by the continued strength of our financial performance. And moving forward, we will remain disciplined and run an efficient organization with the goal of optimizing our competitive positioning while maintaining a healthy cash position. And with that, I'll hand it back to Omar before we open up the calls for Q and A. Speaker 100:17:07Thank you, Eldar. Before I conclude, I'm pleased to share that Innovis was selected by the EcoMotion community to host the EcoMotion Assembly at Innovis headquarters on the 4th June. The EcoMotion Assembly is an auto technology conference hosted in Israel that brings together many OEMs, auto and technology companies from across the global mobility ecosystem to learn, share knowledge and developments and look ahead towards shaping the future of mobility. We are honored to host this prestigious conference this year and look forward to continuing to support and strengthen the international mobility ecosystem. We encourage you to visit the EcoMotion website for additional information and hope that you will join us. Speaker 100:17:53To wrap up my remarks. As you've heard, Q1 was another busy and productive quarter for Innovis, with many engagements with existing and potential customers in different regions. We are already in the middle of the Q2, and we are continuing to advance opportunities across different programs, and we look forward to sharing more positive updates going forward. We believe that we are well positioned with our customers and partners to win additional programs and cement our place as a leading ladder supplier during the market capture phase. As the market comes to appreciate this positioning and understands the growing importance of lighter across various applications with tailwinds coming from new regulatory requirements, we believe that the perception of the LIDAR sector by the capital markets will increasingly reflect the sector's opportunity. Speaker 100:18:40And with that, operator, then turn it on to the Q and A. Quinney. Thank you. Speaker 300:19:01Our first question today comes from the line of Mark Delaney of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:19:11Yes. Good morning and good afternoon. Thank you very much for taking the questions. I'm hoping for more details on how Innovus progressing with its RFQ opportunities. The company reiterated its goal of winning 2 to 3 more programs this year. Speaker 400:19:23Could you please speak to what may need to happen for this to be realized and your confidence in getting there? Moreover, I'd like to better understand if the types of programs Innovus expects to win this year has shifted given the commentary on potential L4 wins as I thought many of the key RFQ opportunities were for L2 and L3 ADAS applications. And said another way, have your opportunities for consumer ADAS awards changed at all? Or is it more about an expansion of what you could win in L4? Speaker 100:19:45Okay. Actually, thank you, Mark, and thanks for joining us. No, actually, I want to start with the last question. We're highlighting the Level 4 opportunities because those actually made very significant progress in the last quarter. And in a way, we're expecting them to converge. Speaker 100:20:03And we wanted to highlight as not to surprise when things might happen. Levels most of as we said, most of our RFQ and RFI pipeline are focused on level 3, and that's where we see most of the activity. In terms of the 2 to 3 opportunities that we're expected to get this year, So I just talked about another opportunity within the VW program with the Mobileye Level 3. It's quite a big program that we're very happy to step into, which will provide us additional volumes. And obviously, we're very happy about that. Speaker 100:20:41And we said that there are actually additional opportunities with VW. It's really exciting to see how VW as a group can offer so many opportunities for Alpha growth. But other than that, we talked about the 2 other Level 3 programs that we were expected to convert by end of last year, And we're still working with those customers very closely. What needs to happen in order to conclude this process, It's basically still in many discussions that are related to design and manufacturing. And we are supporting the customers in order to allow them to converge the process as early as they can. Speaker 400:21:22That's helpful. Thank you for that. My other question was to better understand your expectations for cash use this year. And what would happen to cash flow over the next 6 to 12 months if the company has success converting on some of those NRE bookings opportunities you're guiding for? Speaker 200:21:37So we have completed our realignment program and we expect to see some benefits from this cost reduction. And as I mentioned, we are expecting to see the cash or the expenditures to be similar to what we saw until now and maybe even better if we are available to show that in the next few months. So all in all, I would expect that this year we will be very disciplined and we will be able to keep our budget as we planned. And as said before, obviously, we have enough on our hands in order to capture the market or use the opportunity and execute on the strategic plans we have and hopefully able to secure additional wins. Speaker 100:22:40By the way, maybe I can add something that you might find interesting. While some of those decisions are taking longer, some of the NREs that we're able to collect are coming from programs that we are asked to continue working on them in order not to allow any delay in our work to support those programs. Speaker 400:23:03Thank you. I'll pass it on. Speaker 300:23:06Thank you. Our next question today comes from the line of Andreas Sheppard of Cantor. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:23:15Hey, Omar. Hey, Eldar. Good afternoon. Great to see you both again and congratulations on the quarter and thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to maybe just confirm the timeline for some of your OEM agreements, obviously both BMW being the maybe the more near term, but just can you just remind us what is the timeline for the ramp up in revenues in Volkswagen, the Asian OEM and then the robo taxi? Speaker 500:23:49Just wanted to not sure if those have changed or just wanted to maybe confirm those real quick. Thank you. Speaker 100:23:55So we didn't give a definite time line for each one separately. We gave only for those that were communicated by the customer online. Obviously, BMW launch was communicated, and we're expecting to get more insight from the I would say, the feedback from the ground. We're obviously excited to see our product already out in the wild. And being the only pure play ladder company that already managed to get to deployment on SOP of a Level 3 program. Speaker 100:24:27I think it's a very significant milestone for us as a company, as a leading company in this category. In terms of VWs, we talked about the 2026 timeline for the ID Buzz. We said similar timeline for the Level 3 program. We didn't disclose additional timelines for the rest. Speaker 500:24:50Got it. Okay. No, that's helpful. I appreciate that. And maybe a question for Eldar. Speaker 500:24:57How should we think about gross margins, OpEx and CapEx for this year? As it pertains to gross margins, what does the path to positive gross margins look like? I understand, obviously, it's a combination of volume, but just curious if you have maybe some color that you can share? And then on OpEx, should we expect that number to be lower now or maybe even significantly lower than last year given the realignment? And then just lastly is the just the CapEx, looks like this quarter was a little bit lower than Q1 last year. Speaker 500:25:40Just curious how we should think about that for this year as well? Thank you. Speaker 200:25:44So obviously, I'm expecting the realignment impacting our OpEx expenditures. So this is definitely part of what we would project for this year. In terms of margins, a significant part of our revenues comes from NRE. And NRE at Innovis are positively affecting our gross margins. So we are expecting to have additional NREs and additional positive contribution to our gross margins as we gain more and more NREs. Speaker 200:26:33And I'm not sure what was CapEx, the last one. Yeah, yeah. CapEx CapEx will be stable. We are not expecting a huge CapEx for this year increase from last year as we are relatively CapEx light. We are using contract manufacturers. Speaker 100:26:56So this should be stable. Our strategy related to working with contract manufacturing has been very strong for us. It allows us to be very flexible with different customers who want us to be able to serve them from different locations without making a huge investment on each one separately, working with contract manufacturers as partners with the right expertise and the existing facilities that are already automotive grade, allowing us to save CapEx, as Ildar mentioned, but also get faster to the market. Speaker 500:27:36All right. That's helpful. And just to clarify, so you said you expect CapEx this year to be lower than last year or flat? Speaker 200:27:45No, it's similar. Speaker 500:27:46Oh, similar. Okay, got it. Okay, that's helpful. Thanks guys. Congratulations again. Speaker 500:27:51I'll pass it on. Speaker 100:27:52Thank you. Speaker 300:27:54Thank you. Our next question today comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy of Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:28:04Yes. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on the results. Just for the new ruling from the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, automatic emergency braking, would the cars that you're in today, so the BMW and VW, would those qualify? Speaker 100:28:25Definitely. Obviously, with the use of LiDAR enables this functionality in different weather conditions and lighting conditions. So definitely, it should supply fulfill the needs. Speaker 600:28:38Okay. So do you see this type of ruling moving into other countries? Speaker 100:28:45I believe that's a trend that I'll expect to see growing, also new ruling on new features. I think that the benefit of using life saving technologies is a proof of the capabilities. And I'm sure that the desire to improve and reduce the challenges related to unnecessary accidents is something that will continue to improve. I believe that basically that's why we're here. Eventually, there's no need for car accidents that can be avoided and technologies are already available. Speaker 100:29:24And I'm sure that those willing would only continue. Speaker 600:29:28Okay, great. And can you break out the revenue for the $7,100,000 for March from NRE to production and same with the for your outlook for June? Speaker 200:29:45So a significant part is NRE. We didn't break it down. Significant part is NRE, but it consists of 3 elements: a) the Innovis 1 components that we provide Magna for BMW, samples that we are selling in ever growing numbers and NREs, which are the most significant part of our revenues. And this is our expectation going forward. 3 elements with at least this year NRE leading the most part of the revenues. Speaker 600:30:24Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 300:30:36Our next question today comes from the line of Kevin Garrigan of Westpark Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:30:45Hi, Kevin. Yes. Hey, Omer. Hey, Alder. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 700:30:49Let me echo my congrats on the progress. On the successful winter test, did you guys get a lot more interest from OEMs after you completed the test? Speaker 100:30:58I think that the results that we're able to show to customers is getting, I would say, applause. We are very much aware on the challenges that might happen when you go into those extreme conditions. I think that for a very sensitive and complex system like a LIDAR, going through winter testing in these conditions is a very challenging task. And being able to show the results in such a positive way definitely get a lot of interest. I'm aware of many challenges that others have gone through, not even being able to start those tests in one time. Speaker 100:31:41I think that us being able to go and I mean, one of the challenges of winter testing is that you actually need to meet winter. You can't do that in the summer. And if you miss winter testing, your program might be delayed by a year. And being able to meet the timeline and successfully and not need to wait another year to do that again is super important. And I think that as I mentioned on the earlier, one of the key issues with riders when you go into such conditions is blockages. Speaker 100:32:16And I emphasize that because I don't think that people are aware on that challenge. Whenever there is a blockage that can come from snow, dirt, sometimes even drop of water, Some lidars might be blocked, even if it's partially their field of view, and that completely invalid the availability of the system. And it means that the driver needs to take control back for anything that might happen. If the system is highly sensitive to those situations, it means the availability of level 3 is at very low probability. Very statistically, it means that the driver needs to engage too many times, and it's a very poor user experience. Speaker 100:32:58Our ability to work in those conditions, even when our window is covered by almost 25% to 50% and still provide very well, very good visibility without any holes in the field of view It's quite remarkable. And these are things that we're very happy to show to our customers and give them the understanding that using our LIDAR will give them very high availability of the system in those conditions. I think it's something that definitely will help us going forward this year. Speaker 700:33:31Yes, that makes perfect sense. And congrats again on leading that test. On a separate question, can you guys kind of give us a sense of the breakdown between EVs and ICE platforms that are within the 10 to 15 RFIs and RFQs? Are most of those programs kind of geared more towards electric vehicles? Speaker 100:33:50I don't think there is any major bucket in those programs. Of course, the system is very agnostic to which type of driving, if it's combustion or engine or EV. So we don't really care which car is used. And specifically, with the programs that we already have with our customers, some of them are combustion and some of them are EVs. And definitely, I don't think there is a very clear majority between 1 or another. Speaker 300:34:37That does conclude our question and answer sessions for today. Please proceed. Okay. Speaker 100:34:44Thank you very much, everyone. We look forward for the next quarter to share with you our updates. Thank you very Speaker 200:34:50much. Thank you.Read morePowered by