GSI Technology Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 25, 2024

Key Takeaways

  • Q1 fiscal 2025 revenue of $4.7 million was within guidance but declined due to lower SigmaQuad and military prime contractor sales, pushing gross margin to the low end of the forecast.
  • The new GXL platform built on Gemini 1 will target fast vector search with cloud-based and on-premise solutions, aiming to establish recurring revenue in AI and e-commerce markets.
  • First silicon for Gemini 2 has no showstopper bugs, is mounted for firmware/software development, and the company plans a >10× 1-bit/2-bit performance demo by year-end to attract strategic partners.
  • The SBIR pipeline now includes Phase 1 & 2 awards totaling ~$2.35 million, plus proposals up to $6 million, to validate APU performance and help fund Gemini 2 development.
  • Cash rose to $21.8 million after a $5.7 million sale-leaseback, working capital improved, and a strategic review with Needham & Co. is underway to explore partnerships and other alternatives.
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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the GSI Technology's first quarter fiscal 2025 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. At this time, we will provide instructions for those interested in entering the queue for Q&A. Before we begin today's call, the company has requested that I read the following safe harbor statement. The matters discussed in this conference call may include forward-looking statements regarding future events and the future performance of GSI Technology that involves risks and uncertainties that would cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. These risks and uncertainties are described in the company's Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Operator

Additionally, I have also been asked to advise you that this conference call is being recorded today, July 25th, 2024, at the request of GSI Technology. Hosting the call today is Lee-Lean Shu, the company's Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer. With him are Douglas Schirle, Chief Financial Officer, and Didier Lasserre, Vice President of Sales. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Shu. Please go ahead, sir.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

Good day, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter FY 2025 earnings call. Let's start with the Q1 result. Our first quarter revenue of $4.7 million was within our guidance range despite lower SigmaQuad cross-sales and lower sales to our military plant contractors. Additionally, the mix of our products we saw affected our gross margin, causing gross margin to come in at a low end of our guidance range. Right now, our team is focused on generating new revenue from our Gemini APU to address the expected decline in our legacy SM business. Our main goal this year is to launch a new business line with Gemini-I and secure more SBIR contracts with Gemini-II. This will help us reverse the revenue decline, achieve financial stability, and ultimately return to growth when we bring Gemini-II online. Let me explain how we are working toward this goal.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

We are preparing to launch our new GXL platform for fast vector search built on Gemini-I, which will be available as a cloud-based or on-premise solution. Our groundbreaking technology significantly reduces the time needed to create and update large vector database index, increasingly using GenAI and e-commerce, providing a critical advantage for companies that rely on timely data updates. Didier will provide more detail on this. Additionally, we are expanding our Department of Defense small business innovation research, or SBIR, proposal pipeline for the Gemini APU. This contract can range from $75,000 to over $2 million, typically paid out over 9-18 months. So far, we have launched phase I and phase II SBIR contracts, where we are meeting our milestones and are on track to complete them in calendar 2025. Didier will expand further on these SBIR opportunities in his comments.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

We are also on track to begin customer sampling Gemini-II software in early calendar 2025. The chip has been successfully mounted onto a board, allowing our software team to work with it. Our goal is to finalize the firmware and complete the software library by December 2024. We have uncovered minor bugs on the first silicon. The good news is that there are workarounds for all of those to continue firmware and software development without much change, thanks to our success in working with the chip at multiple levels. We are actively seeking a strategic partner to scale resources, funding, and expertise for future development. To increase our chances of successful engagement, the team is preparing to demonstrate more than 10 times improvement in 1-bit and 2-bit processing with Gemini-II. We aim to validate this concept by the December quarter with a 1B and 2B compute memory demo.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

Successfully showcasing this breakthrough will enable us to have a more productive discussion with potential strategic partners. As I stated earlier, we are diligently working to launch and monetize the Gemini-I and Gemini-II platforms. We are preparing to launch the GXL platform to establish a recurring revenue stream in the fast vector search market. In addition, we are actively writing multiple SBIR proposals to build a pipeline of future revenue streams and offset the remaining development costs of Gemini-II. With these unique compute memory capabilities, our compute memory APU promises to deliver essential power and time-saving solutions to the rapidly expanding AI market. Now, I hand the call over to Didier, who will discuss our business development and sales activities. Please go ahead, Didier.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Thank you, Lee-Lean. I want to expand on two topics that Lee-Lean highlighted: the pending launch of GXL and the building of our SBIR pipeline. Let's start with the fast vector search and our new platform for this market called GXL. First, let me explain the problem GXL solves and why it's important. The size of vector bases is growing fast, especially with GenAI and vector similarity search for e-commerce. Many of these databases use the HNSW algorithm to build indexes because it provides quick and accurate search results. However, building an HNSW index takes a long time, which is a problem for databases needing fast and accurate information. One way to fix this is by speeding up the calculations needed to build or refresh the index by running them in parallel. These calculations take most of the time, so making them faster is crucial.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Our in-compute memory APU technology is designed for this. It enables massive parallel processing, solving the slow index building issue. The APU processes data directly in memory at the bit level, with millions of bit processors working simultaneously. This means it can handle large amounts of data quickly, reducing the index build time by about 85% compared to traditional CPU-based solutions. The three main benefits of our GXL solution are scalability. It provides fast access to information for GenAI and e-commerce recommendations, even as these applications grow to billions of vectors. The second benefit is lower operational cost. By using computational resources for less time, especially in cloud computing, where costs are billed hourly, it saves money. The last benefit is faster updates. New products can be added or deleted into the index more quickly in e-commerce applications, leading to timely recommendations and increased revenue opportunities.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

We recently published a white paper and a blog on Medium about efficient HNSW indexing. Be sure to check those out for more information. The GXL platform is being prepared for launch, and we aim to begin connecting with the vector database companies that we have identified and then expand to larger e-commerce players. Switching to the build-out of our SBIR pipeline and our focus on landing these phase I and phase II contracts from the Department of Defense or DOD. We view the strategy as a highly efficient and effective way of increasing awareness of GSI's APU within the DOD. These SBIR awards validate our statements regarding the APU's performance and benefits with many large divisions within the DOD and can bring a significant multiplier effect for future opportunities, as many of these applications will have dual use for defense and commercial.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

This is why we have focused resources on submitting proposals and then prioritizing the execution of these contracts. We are working on a phase I, excuse me, we are working on a Phase 2 SBIR contract with the Air Force worth $1.1 million, which we started in 2023 and are now over 25% complete. Additionally, we have a phase II SBIR contract with the Space Development Agency valued at $1.25 million, and we are over 50% complete on this project. We recently secured a new phase I SBIR with one of the largest divisions of the DOD, a division that's new to GSI's APU technology. It has a value of up to $250,000. We will give more details on this latest win once the contract is signed. We are currently preparing several other SBIR proposals, adding up to a total pipeline of $6 million.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Our next submission will be for a phase II SAR space-level onboard contract worth $1.25 million. In addition to SBIRs, we have initiated the process of seeking additional government funding to enhance the resources we could dedicate to further developing G2. This funding will enable us to expand the Gemini-II product line by creating a version for advanced edge AI applications. On a final note regarding APU opportunities, we sold a Gemini-I LiDAR card to a major aerospace and defense contractor who will evaluate this technology for various unclassified applications. We shipped the card in June quarter, and the PO also provides GSI software training in the September quarter. Although these sales generate minor revenue, this opportunity is valuable for prospecting engagement with this prominent contractor. We are excited to see this customer using our technology.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Regarding the two SRAM prospects we've mentioned in previous calls, one is on hold as we finalize some documentation with that customer. The other is looking to expand the scope of our services that we can provide in different areas of their operation where they could possibly use the APU. Our team is actively investigating how to accelerate the delivery of these additional services. Now, let me switch to the first quarter's customers and product breakdown. In the first quarter of fiscal 2025, sales to Nokia were $998,000, or 21.4% of net revenues, compared to $1.9 million, or 33.5% of net revenues the same period a year ago, and $694,000, or 13.5% of revenues in the prior quarter. Military defense sales were 31.9% of first quarter shipments, compared to 33.8% of shipments in the comparable period a year ago, and 35.5% of shipments in the prior quarter.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

SigmaQuad sales were 36.3% of first quarter shipments, compared to 58.6% in the first quarter of fiscal 2024 and 42.4% in the prior quarter. Regarding our SRAM business outlook, while our largest customer has announced some business challenges, our current expectations for orders from them remain stable for the remainder of the calendar year. Several other SRAM customers are currently managing their inventory levels, and we anticipate they will resume placing orders before the end of the calendar year. Additionally, we believe that the customers who were previously reducing their use of SRAMs have now stabilized. I'd now like to hand the call over to Doug. Doug, go ahead, please.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Thank you, Didier. The company reported net revenues of $4.7 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2025, compared to $5.6 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2024 and $5.2 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. The decline in revenue was due to lower Sigma Quad sales and lower sales for military prime contractors. Gross margin was 46.3% in the first quarter of fiscal 2025, compared to 54.9% a year ago, first quarter of fiscal 2024 and 51.6% in the preceding fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. The decrease in gross margin in the first quarter of fiscal 2025 was primarily due to product mix and the effect of lower revenue on fixed costs and our cost of revenues.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Total operating expenses in the first quarter of fiscal 2025 were $6.8 million, compared to $8.2 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2024 and $7.2 million in the prior quarter. Research and development expenses were $4.2 million, compared to $5.2 million in the prior period and $4.8 million in the prior quarter. Selling general and administrative expenses were $2.6 million in the quarter end of June 30, 2024, compared to $3 million in the prior year quarter and $2.4 million in the previous quarter. First quarter of fiscal 2025 operating loss was $4.7 million, compared to an operating loss of $5.1 million in the prior year period and an operating loss of $4.5 million in the prior quarter.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

First quarter fiscal 2025 net income included interest and other income of $55,000 and a tax provision of $57,000, compared to $80,000 in interest and other income and a tax provision of $51,000 for the same period a year ago. In the preceding fourth quarter, net loss included other income of $108,000 and a tax benefit of $85,000. Net income in the first quarter of fiscal 2025 was $1.1 million, or $0.04 per diluted share, reflecting a one-time gain of $5.7 million on the sale and leaseback transaction related to the sale of the company's headquarters, compared to a net loss of $5.1 million, or $0.21 per diluted share for the first quarter of fiscal 2024, and a net loss of $4.3 million, or $0.17 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Total first quarter pre-tax stock-based compensation expense was $658,000, compared to $820,000 in the comparable quarter a year ago and $693,000 in the prior quarter. At June 30, 2024, the company had $21.8 million in cash and cash equivalents, compared to $14.4 million at March 31, 2024. Working capital was $25.7 million as of June 30, 2024, compared to $19.1 million at March 31, 2024. Stockholders' equity as of June 30, 2024, was $38 million, compared to $36 million as of the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024. During our fourth quarter earnings call in May, we announced that the company had initiated a comprehensive strategic review and established a special committee of the board to evaluate various strategic alternatives. We have engaged Needham & Company as our strategic and financial advisor to assist in this process.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Currently, we are in discussions regarding potential strategic opportunities and are encouraged by the direction of these preliminary discussions. Operator, at this point, we will open the call to Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Luke Bohns. Please proceed with your question.

Analyst

Hi. I'm wondering if y'all could do a brief kind of skim over the cost-benefit and contemplations about potential leasing or sale or going this more diverse route, which it seems like you were laying out in this call, as well as potential for a key partnership, if you could give kind of a succinct current refinement of all those prospects and your leading direction. Thanks.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

What exactly are you asking? You're asking about how we decided to sell the building?

Analyst

Oh, no, not the building. I'm referring to the GPU or the APU, sorry, Gemini APU project. Since the last call and prior calls, we're building up to, hopefully, a decision on a route for funding and development to progress into Gemini-III. Yeah, just wondering if you had kind of a way of succinctly describing what your current leading prospects are for either the major funding or leasing of that technology.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

Yes. We have still continued discussion on Gemini-III with the hyperscaler and HPE and vendors. But the key is really we need to demonstrate our Gemini APU capability on the 1-bit and 2-bit processing. So that's why we are focused on doing this. And we want to prove it on the G2 by the end of this year, the calendar year.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Yeah. So there's definitely interest, but they'd like to see the capabilities of the parts where we can show them some benchmarks. So we're working on that now.

Analyst

Okay. Excellent. Yeah, that's definitely my only question. Thanks.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Thanks, Luke.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Cooper. Please proceed with your question.

Analyst

Hi, guys. Can you tell me, with these benchmarks, have you validated these benchmarks in-house, and now you have to formalize the process for outside clients and then start showing them? Do you know the answers to these questions that are coming down the pipe?

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

Yeah. We have a calculation, but it's just a calculation. And right now, we are trying to get the G2 working so we can run it on the actual device. That's what we are doing, basically, right now.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Yeah. We're actually working with the first silicon, and the first silicon has turned out to be very solid for first silicon. And I think, as we've mentioned before, there are no major bugs, nothing that we can't work around. And we're right now accessing the part. They've been mounted on boards and trying to gather as much data and information as we can, working with what we have.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Right. And in order to be able to run those benchmarks, we just need all of the algorithms and the libraries on the software side complete. So on the hardware side, as Lee-Lean said in his section, there have been no bugs that are a showstopper at this point. And so it's just getting the libraries completed so we can run those benchmarks.

Analyst

In those libraries and the algorithms, there's less critical pinch points, if you will?

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Well, it's just different, right? With the hardware, you have a lot of moving parts, and you have a lot of potential bugs. With the software and the libraries, it's just time. It's just the folks that's being done by our Israeli facility, and it's just a matter of time to complete those libraries.

Analyst

If I could just extend one more question about, okay, let's say you achieve all this. What does the market look like, how large potentially within your channels, and what's the gross margin? And is it like the hyperscalers might buy hundreds or thousands of a $30,000 system, or what does that proportion look like?

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Sure. So Gemini-II is a little different going to market than Gemini-I. So Gemini-I, if you recall, we have some cloud-based usage models, and then we also sold some board/systems. Gemini-II is a little different. I shouldn't say a little different. We can expand to that. So some of the models we're looking at will be cloud-based usage kind of revenue. We will be selling some boards and some systems, but we also have, which is very key to some of the markets we're looking at, the opportunity to sell actual chips. So with Gemini-I, a chip sale was not viable. And we've talked about the dependence on an FPGA that was on the original LiDAR board with Gemini-I. With Gemini-II, there's not that restriction. So we can sell the chip as well.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

And so depending on the customer, they may want to buy a chip. They may want to buy a board. They may want to buy a server that has multiple boards. And then in some of our revenue streams, it'll be, like I said, the cloud-based kind of revenue.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

Yeah. Gemini-II is targeting at the edge AI processing market. Okay. We are not targeting at a cloud basis. But anyway, the edge AI market, I read the research report, the whole edge AI computing is like a mid-$20 billion market right now in 2024, and growing at mid-20%-mid-30%, depending on who is publishing the data capable. So I think it's a fastest-pacing market, and that's where the market we are targeting.

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Thanks, Michael.

Operator

Our next question comes from Greg Greenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Analyst

Yes. Can you give us an update on the radiation hardening programs? Anything that's happened in the last quarter and what you see for 1, 2, 3 years from now? Thank you.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Sure. So we shipped a prototype order this past quarter to a customer, actually out of Europe. And so that's going to be for their ongoing testing. There's still some active programs that we have sent some samples into over the last couple of years. And so those are just waiting to go into production. And then there are a few others that we're still targeting. Hard to say. We've always said that we kind of are looking for kind of the $10 million a year kind of run rate. And again, we talked about this is north of 90% gross margin on this product. So we're still seeing that in the years ahead. It's just been, as you know, if you've been on these calls in the past, it's just been a much slower process than we had ever anticipated.

Analyst

I think you mentioned maybe a few quarters ago that you didn't need it to go up in space, or has it been already up in space? What's the status there?

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

No. So yeah, you're referring to Heritage. Yeah. So as far as I know, we don't have Heritage yet. And so we're waiting for some of these launches. And I know that we're also seeing what we can do about possibly getting some parts into space just for the Heritage only. This is going to sound a little strange. It's not associated with the program we're working on now. It would just be a way to exercise the parts in space just to prove that they actually work in those environments. I mean, all the testing we've done, which simulates that environment, is done on Earth. And so we certainly all the tests are done tells you that it'll work, but these folks want actual proof.

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

So we're looking for a mechanism now to try and get the parts up so we can have that official Heritage stamp on our parts.

Analyst

Okay. And then back to APU. So you're still expecting a second spin. When would you expect that back?

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Yeah. So we're not actively spinning the part yet. So as we discussed, first silicon looks very solid. There are some minor bugs. They've all had software workarounds at this point. And so as we continue to finish up these libraries and algorithms we talked about, we'll be able to determine whether or not there are any other bugs. And once that's done, then we'll do the spin. So as of now, we're holding off on any spin until we can identify any other minor bugs.

Analyst

I can read into that that strategic alternatives doesn't require a partner to be able to see a second spin to know what you guys have so far, correct?

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

Correct. Yeah. The strategic partnership is more for the next generation part and also just to expand our business in general. But we won't need that just for the second spin. That's correct.

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Christian. Please proceed with your question.

Analyst

Yeah. Have you guys identified any possible companies that are interested in licensing your technology?

Didier Lasserre
Didier Lasserre
VP of Sales at GSI Technology

So we are actually working with right now. So this is on a customer side. I'm not sure if you're talking about potential competitors or customers. So on a customer side, we do have a major networking telecom customer that is looking at our technology to be able to incorporate some of the IP into their ASIC. And those are conversations we've been having for some time now, and it looks like it's getting further along. We actually started the conversations before we had Gemini-II. And obviously, Gemini-I wasn't what they're looking for. It had to be Gemini-I technology. And now that it's out, and once we get some of the benchmarks, then that'll progress even faster.

Analyst

Okay. Good. And is there any other companies out there, competitors, that's interested in buying the company as it is right now?

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Well, we've been having a lot of discussions with Needham, and things are encouraging, but there's nothing to talk about yet.

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Douglas Schirle
Douglas Schirle
CFO at GSI Technology

Thanks, Robert.

Operator

It appears that there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Shu for closing comments.

Lee-Lean Shu
Lee-Lean Shu
Chairman, President and CEO at GSI Technology

Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you again when we report our second quarter fiscal 2024 results. Thank you.

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      Didier Lasserre
      VP of Sales
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      Douglas Schirle
      CFO
    • Lee-Lean Shu
      Lee-Lean Shu
      Chairman, President and CEO
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