Spin Master Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 31, 2024

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Spin Master Corp. 2nd Quarter 2024 Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Wednesday, July 31, 2024.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Sofia Vasukas. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Joelle, and good morning. Welcome to Spin Master's financial results conference call for the Q2 20 24. I'm joined this morning by Max Rangel, Spin Master's Global President and CEO and Mark Siegel, Spin Master's Chief Financial Officer. For your convenience, the press release, MD and A and interim consolidated financial statements are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at spinmaster.com and on SEDAR Plus. Before we begin, please note that remarks on this conference call may contain forward looking statements about Spin Master's current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, level of activity, performance, goals or achievements and any other future events or developments.

Speaker 1

Forward looking statements are based on information currently available to management and on estimates and assumptions made based on factors that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that certain estimates or assumptions will prove to be correct. Many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those expected or implied by the forward looking statements. As a result, Spin Master cannot guarantee that any forward looking statements will materialize and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. Except as may be required by law, Spin Master has no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements whether because of new information, future events or otherwise.

Speaker 1

For additional info on these assumptions and risks, please consult our cautionary statements regarding forward looking information and our earnings release dated July 30, 2024. Please note that Spin Master reports in U. S. Dollars and all other amounts to lead today are expressed in U. S.

Speaker 1

Currency unless otherwise noted. I would like to turn the call over to Max.

Speaker 2

Good morning and thank you, Sofia. Thanks for joining us today. We are pleased to report that our Q2 financial results were within our expectations and we are maintaining our full year guidance. As expected, our Q2 revenue declined 2.1% to $412,000,000 due to continued pressure on consumer spending, which impacted toy gross product sales and in game purchases within digital games. Toy gross product sales were down to $384,700,000 a decrease of 1.4% versus 2023.

Speaker 2

Sales were lower for 2 primary reasons. 1st, due to shipments moving from Q2 to Q3 and second, as a result of us lapping the initial shipments in Q2 last year related to the launch of the 2nd PAW Patrol movie. Bliss and Doug had a strong quarter with revenue of $43,300,000 dollars as we invested in in store programs and marketing support. We're pleased with the pace of our integration efforts and are realizing cost synergy opportunities across many different areas. Our commercial teams continue to collaborate to help drive penetration of Melissa and Doug products at retail primarily in Mexico, Canada and Europe where the brand is significantly underrepresented.

Speaker 2

Consumer spending across discretionary categories remains challenged. According to Sarcana, G11 POS was down 4.7% in Q2, while Spin Master was down 8.1% and Spin Master combined with MISTEN DUC in 2024 was up 11.9%. We maintain our position as the 4th largest manufacturer globally in Q2. Our retail inventory excluding Melissa and Doug is down just over 5%. The average selling price of our U.

Speaker 2

S. Retail inventory is down 8% compared to 2023 as we have increased the mix of lower price items. Many more of this inventory is in our key brands with Trunk's POS as well as new brands. All in all, U. S.

Speaker 2

Inventory is in much healthier state than last year. In Europe, retail inventory is down nearly 7% and in an equally healthy position. Bliss and Dove retail inventory in the U. S. Is down double digits versus 2023.

Speaker 2

All these bodes well for toy sales in the back half of twenty twenty four. Let me review performance by category. Beginning with infant, toddler and preschool, we finished Q2 as a number 2 corporate manufacturer in the G11 per Surcana, offering number 3 previously and owing to the inclusion of Melissa and Doug. We have 2 of the top 10 items for Q2 and year to date for SIRKANA. The lower price point items within our line are performing the best reflecting current consumer shopping trends.

Speaker 2

Our PAW Patrol Jungle Pups vehicle line was the number one new item in the infant toddler preschool super category for Q2 of 2024. Spin Master was a number one corporate manufacturer and property in the preschool toys segment year to year in Q2 year to date. PAW Patrol is the number one preschool toy property in the G11 for the 14th straight quarter dating back to the Q1 in 2021. We anticipated some softness in PAW this year following the second movie and are making incremental investments in retail programs and marketing in Q3 and Q4. We are also continuing our efforts to grow viewing minutes across traditional and non traditional platforms to further drive toy demand.

Speaker 2

We are seeing strong international growth for Gabbie's Dollhouse. DreamWorks has a number of experiential events planned in the U. S. Combined with more content releases on Netflix in advance of the Gavi movie launch on September of 2025. Bliss and Dog had a strong quarter in shipments and saw improved POS performance.

Speaker 2

Low retail inventory levels at major U. S. Retailers are helping to drive replenishment orders for M and D earlier in the cycle which bodes well for the back half of twenty twenty four. Bliss and Dog gained market share in the arts and crafts category in G11 in the Q2 year to date, driven by the Sticker Wow! Launch and Melissa and Doug also grew share in puzzles in the U.

Speaker 2

S. After the quarter, Melissa and Doug had a strong organic sales growth over last year during Amazon Prime Day with the U. S. POS up 40%. This performance was driven by a focus on lower price point items in the range, which resonated well in the current environment.

Speaker 2

MND is launching Blockables in the fall, an exciting new line of wood based construction toys that allows multi sensory play and which fits well into the growth of the construction and building sets category. Finally, Melissa and Doug will have 2 items within our total Ms. Rachel assortment, which has just started shipping for this fall. And speaking of Ms. Rachel, we continue to strengthen our presence in early childhood toys with the launch of the new Spin Master and as I just said, Melissa and Doug toy line set to launch in October.

Speaker 2

This is one of the most anticipated toy launches of the fall with pent up demand for the property continuing to grow as evidenced by the strong early performance of the Ms. Rachel book presale and initial pajama launch earlier in the year. With our huge YouTube viewership, Ms. Rachel has captivated and connected with children and parents. Our toy collection is inspired by the learning approach loved by parents in her show.

Speaker 2

We are thrilled with the line and retailers have responded very positively. In those and interactive, we have a host of new introductions leading into the fall. We released our teaser for our latest innovation in Hatchimals. Something magical is coming on Hatchimals Day, which is October 4, when we will have the full reveal of our reimagining Hatchimals with new features and expanded interactions for a new generation of kids. Since first launching Hatchimals in 2016, over 14,000,000 of the Big X have been sold.

Speaker 2

The Unicorn Academy toy line hits shelves in June, time with the new content of Netflix and early POS reads show very encouraging performance. We have gained share in the youth electronics category with the continued popularity of Bitsy and the introduction of 2 new iterations, Bitsy Magicals and Disney Bitsy. Adding to our growth is Petarums, the squishy digital pet from Japan in partnership with Takara Tomy. While these items just started to set in June, they are each off to a very strong start. We increased our market share in arts and craft in the Q2 year to date.

Speaker 2

According to Sarcana, Kinetic Sand grew POS 6.6% in the 2nd quarter compared to a 12% decline in the arts and crafts super category. Kinetic Sand was a number 2 brand up from number 3 in 2023. Monster Jam continues to have an excellent year and our POS grew over 33% in the Q2 and over 32% year to date for Surcana. Monster Jam was a number one license in the Q2 year to date in the super category and overall was a number 2 property year to date in the vehicles super category. With families prioritizing experiences, the Monster Jam live shows are creating a core of loyal fans.

Speaker 2

This fall, a new line of monster trucks from Marvel featuring popular superheroes including Spider Man and a new RC vehicles collection and playsets will launch and this will help the brand tap into an expanded fan base and encourage them to grow their collection. Our entertainment creative center had another solid quarter with revenue increasing by over 7%. We released chapter 2 of Unicorn Academy season 1 on Netflix globally. It quickly shut to the top spot for kids and families in over 90 countries. In addition to the content on Netflix and off platform on YouTube and TikTok, our team is also rolling out licensed consumer products for the franchise which now has over 35 licensed partners across lifestyle goods, publishing and accessories with many more to be announced this fall.

Speaker 2

I am very pleased to announce that we just completed our deal with Netflix for further 16 episodes, which will give us 2 more seasons in 2026. PAW Patrol continues to reign as a top preschool show. Total gross viewing minutes for the PAW universe were up 24.5% in the quarter. In May, we launched a PAW Patrol short form content series on YouTube as part of our strategic alliance with Moon Buck to capture additional viewing minutes and deepen engagement with preschoolers. This August, we have several exciting premieres planned for the PAW universe, including a special episode of Rubble and Crew with Aaron Judge as well as a PAW Patrol Rubble and Crew crossover event.

Speaker 2

In addition to short form content, the team is in production of season 11. For 2025, the team is producing several TV specials including a holiday special which will give families a chance to co view during the season with their favorite pups leading to the reimagined 3rd movie in the fall of 2026. Within our digital games creative center, mobile gaming spending slowed at the industry level in Q2 and in app purchases within Toka Life World experienced a similar decline. Overall, Q2 digital games revenue declined by just over 14%. Picnic subscriptions grew in the quarter driving higher subscription revenue validating that our model of bundling together multiple apps in an appealing offering for parents is working.

Speaker 2

PAW Patrol Academy will become part of the business subscriptions bundle in Q1 of next year. We should help grow further business subscriptions as well as expand the user base. Despite a decline in in app purchases in the Toka Life World brand engagement remains near our all time high. Monthly active users were at 61,000,000 at the end of Q2, up 3% and fans are responding positively to content drops including our first ever artist collaboration with global superstar Conan Gray, which launched in June. If you recall last year we released SpongeBob and we saw a halo effect throughout the summer.

Speaker 2

We are seeing similar trends with these strategic collaboration. Rubik's Match, our new Match 3 game leveraging the brand awareness of the Rubik's Cube continues to rollout in select markets leading up to the full global release in September. The game is now available for preorder on both the App Store and Google Play. Toca Days, our multiplayer mobile game continues to rollout on a targeted country by country basis and we are gathering the learnings and feedback from players to enhance and fine tune the experience as we ramp up to a global release. This space of engaged players provides us with real time KPIs and learnings to help us refine the game and maximize results when we launch on a global scale.

Speaker 2

In closing, the quarter met our expectations from a revenue perspective and we are confident that our innovation across toys, entertainment, digital games has positioned us well for the second half. We are capturing, we are encouraged that consumer sentiment appears to be improving and that families intend to prioritize purchases that bring both joy and value for their family including toys. Even though the consumer continues to face many financial headwinds particularly in the U. S, there are reasons to believe that the back half of the year will be positive for the toy category. Our innovations and the introduction of new licensed brands such as Ms.

Speaker 2

Rachel will positively impact volume in the fall. Beyond this year, we have a strong growth potential in 2025 with new licensed properties with a full year of Ms. Rachel and the reintroduction of Dora the Explorer, the new theatrical toy lines planned for 2025 including Superman, Dragons and Gabbi's Dollhouse as well as disruptive innovation in our toy line together with expanding digital games experiences to attract new players. We are in a strong financial position and combined with our diversified portfolio and leadership in the children's entertainment industry, we will deliver our long term strategic and financial goals. Before I turn it over, we announced that Mark Siegel, our Chief Financial Officer has made the decision to retire in the first half of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2

Mark originally joined Spin Master in 2 1,001 and spent 10 years as CFO. This was an unprecedented time of expansion for Spin Master and due to that time, Mark helped to build the infrastructure to enable Spin Master to continue to grow profitably through international expansion, acquisitions, partnerships and innovation. Mark left for a while, but he could not stay away and rejoined Spin Master in 2015 to lead our IPO and help build Spin Master's internal and external capabilities as a public company. Mark has steadfastly guided us forward by applying his exceptional financial leadership to preserve a strong balance sheet and generate cash flow, which in turn has helped the company to provide a platform for our future growth ambitions. He has been an invaluable adviser to me during my time at the company consistently demonstrating his integrity, financial discipline and commitment to our strategic goals, while also establishing a strong finance team.

Speaker 2

We are fortunate to have Mark with us as CFO into the first half of twenty twenty five and following the transition to a new CFO, I look forward to working with Mark as a strategic advisor to Spin Master. On behalf of Vernon, Anton, Ben and the entire team, I want to thank Mark for his incredible contributions that have further our leadership within the children's entertainment industry. And now with that, I will turn it over to Mark.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Max, and good morning. Spin Master is a truly remarkable Canadian and global success story, and it's really been my privilege to have been part of its evolution and growth journey. As Max mentioned, I will remain a CFO throughout the 2024 year end and help onboard a new CFO in the first half of twenty twenty five and then look forward to continuing to contribute to Spin Master as a strategic advisor. Let me now review our consolidated and creative center results with you briefly. We delivered $412,000,000 in revenue in Q2 across all three creative centers, including just over $43,000,000 from Melissa and Doug.

Speaker 3

As expected, Q2 revenue declined 2.1% in comparison to 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was 53,600,000 and expected decline from last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 13% compared to 21% due to the increased proportion of revenue from the Toys Creative Center and margin dilution from M and D, where profitability is fully weighted to H2. Our Q2 gross profit decreased by $31,400,000 to $199,600,000 and gross margin declined to 48.4 percent from 54.9%, primarily due to the impact of the Melissa and Doug inventory fair market value adjustment. As we explained in Q1, as part of the acquisition of Melissa and Doug, we acquired just under $180,000,000 of inventory, of which approximately $66,000,000 relates to the required fair market value step up adjustment, representing the difference between inventory cost and naturalizable value.

Speaker 3

As this inventory is sold, a fair market value increment is then recognized in cost of sales. In Q2, this inventory fair market value adjustments included in toy cost of sales was $24,200,000 $44,000,000 year to date. At the end of Q2, dollars 21,500,000 of stepped up inventory remains on hand, which we expect to sell through in Q3. Adjusted gross profit, which removes the impact of the M and D inventory fair market value increment, decreased by $7,200,000 to 223,800,000 dollars Adjusted gross margin was 54.3 percent, down 60 basis points from 54.9%, mainly due to product mix in the toy creative center, partially offset by an increase in distribution revenue from the PAW Patrol movies and series in entertainment. Let's review each creative center's performance in a little more detail.

Speaker 3

Toy gross product sales in Q2 were down 1.4%, including Miller Sundag, and down 14.6%, excluding Miller Sundag. As Max described, toy gross product sales excluding M and D were lower than Q2 'twenty three for 2 primary reasons. Firstly, approximately $32,000,000 of customer orders shifted from Q2 into early Q3, most of which has already shipped. In addition, Q2 'twenty three included approximately $35,000,000 of initial shipments from the launch of the 2nd PAW Patrol movie. Melissa and Doug performed well in Q2, delivering toy gross product sales of $51,700,000 a double digit growth rate over the same quarter in 2023.

Speaker 3

Preschool, infant and toddler and plush gross product sales were flat with the positive impact of including Melissa and Doug, offset by the shift of customer orders into Q3 and the impact of lapping the $35,000,000 of PAW Patrol movie shipments from Q2 last year. Activities, games and puzzles and dolls and interactive grew 19,600,000 dollars or 17.9 percent led by Unicorn Academy, Bitsy and Kinetic Sand. Wheels in Action declined 25,400,000 dollars or 25% due to the declines in Bakugan, DC and Tech Deck, partially offset by Monster Jam. Outdoor was up 2.8 percent to $14,700,000 Sales allowances in Q2 were 11.9% of toy gross product sales, slightly elevated compared to 11.2% as we invested in M and D retail trade promotions and marketing. Excluding Melissa and Doug, sales allowances were 11.2%, flat to 2023.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EBITDA in Q2 for toys was 20,900,000 dollars or 6.1% margin compared to 13.8%. The decrease in adjusted EBITDA margin was driven by the inclusion of Melissa and Doug, a higher proportion of administrative and marketing spend in relation to toy revenue and lower gross margins, partially offset by lower selling expenses. In Q2, entertainment revenue increased by $2,500,000 or 7.4%. We continue to see higher revenue from the distribution of the PAW Patrol movies and series. Offsetting this was a decline in production revenue from fewer content deliveries as we were lapping the delivery of Unicorn Academy and VIDA the Vets in 2023.

Speaker 3

Adjusted operating income increased by $3,700,000 or 22.7 percent, and adjusted operating margin increased to 54.9% from 48.1%. The improved margin was due to higher movie distribution revenue and fewer lower margin content deliveries this year. Digital games revenue declined by $5,800,000 or 14.3 percent to $34,700,000 primarily due to lower in game purchases in Toka Life World, partially offset by higher subscription revenue for the Picnic Bundle and Paw Patrol Academy. As Max mentioned, industry level mobile gaming spending has slowed, which has led to lower spending per monthly active user in our business. Engagement remains very high and the number of monthly active users for Toka Life World was approximately $61,000,000 a 3% increase sequentially and up 6% compared to 2023.

Speaker 3

Our focus is to both increase in app revenue conversion levels in Toka Life World and increase monthly recurring revenue from our active subscriber base. On this point, subscription monthly recurring revenue or MRR hit a new high in June. Since we launched Picnic, we focused on getting customers to choose the bundle over individual apps. Currently, 90% of new 90% of new activations are for the bundle and these subscribers are staying longer, which is a big driver of the MRR increase. We are now starting to focus on getting more customers to choose annual plans over monthly plans.

Speaker 3

Our medium term goal is to get 40% of our subscribers on annual plans, up from 15% currently. Digital Games adjusted operating margin was 17% compared to 31.6% last year, driven by the decline in revenue and higher user acquisition costs for PAW Patrol Academy and Technic. We have seen a pickup in digital games revenue in July in what is typically the seasonally strongest engagement period when kids are on summer holidays. Turning back to consolidated results, adjusted SG and A increased by $24,000,000 or 14.7 percent to $187,500,000 As a percentage of revenue, adjusted SG and A increased to 45.5% from 38.9%, primarily from the inclusion of Melissa and Doug. This has resulted in deleveraging in Q2 due to the seasonality of Melissa and Doug's revenue profile, which is heavily weighted to the second half.

Speaker 3

Excluding Melissa and Doug, adjusted SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 42.6% compared to just under 39%. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for Q2 was $53,600,000 compared to $88,400,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin was 13% compared to 21%. The decrease in adjusted EBITDA was primarily from the toy and digital game segments. Adjusted EBITDA excluding MillerSindug was $60,600,000 compared to $88,400,000 a decline of $27,800,000 Adjusted EBITDA margin, excluding Millicent Doug, was 16.4% compared to 21%. Adjusted net income was $9,600,000 or $0.09 per share compared to adjusted net income of $48,800,000 or $0.47 per share.

Speaker 3

Looking at our balance sheet, we continue to improve our inventory position. Inventory excluding Willis and Doug was $145,000,000 down $7,000,000 compared to 2023. We are continuing to reduce overall M and D inventory levels and flush the inventory subject to the fair market value step up adjustment through the P and L. Free cash flow in Q2 was negative $3,600,000 compared to negative $5,900,000 last year. Free cash flow increased due to higher cash generated from working capital, partially offset by higher interest paid and lower adjusted operating income.

Speaker 3

We ended Q2 with $154,600,000 in cash. Our plan to create shareholder value remains consistent. In Q2, we maintained our strong cash flow and executed our planned capital allocation initiatives. Our higher dividend was implemented and our share buyback program continued, reflecting our commitment to returning value to shareholders. At the end of Q2, we had repurchased over 1,100,000 shares for approximately $25,900,000 And after the quarter, we repurchased a further 318,200 shares for $6,900,000 Please note that these dollar values for the NCIB I just discussed are in U.

Speaker 3

S. Dollars, but the Canadian dollar equivalent is in the press release. We repaid $15,000,000 of debt in Q2 and on a year to date basis, we have reduced our borrowings by $65,000,000 to $460,000,000 Turning now to our outlook. We are maintaining our full year guidance. We expect toy gross product sales for 2024, excluding Melissa and Doug, to be in line with 2023.

Speaker 3

As a result of the order shift I referred to earlier, we expect Q3 to represent approximately 40% of full year gross product sales compared to 38% in 2023. As a reminder, at this point in the year, we typically have a significant portion of our Q3 orders locked in. The outlook for 2024 reflects our view that Spin Master retail inventories are in good shape and we have a strong, innovative, deep and value focused line, of course, tempered by the reality that consumer behavior is likely to continue to be volatile with 5 fewer shopping days leading into Christmas 2024. We continue to expect sales allowances to be approximately 13% of gross product sales. Total revenue excluding Melissa and Doug is also expected to be in line with 2023 with lower revenue from entertainment offset by higher digital games revenue for 2024.

Speaker 3

In digital games, we have a large amount of fresh content in Toka Life World planned for the second half of twenty twenty four, a growing recurring revenue base in our subscriptions business and the full introduction of Rubik's Match in September. Note that Rubik's Match will require upfront marketing investment spend and amortization of the capitalized development costs will dilute Digital Games EBIT margin until they are fully recouped. From a cost perspective, we are seeing some inflationary pressures on certain lines of ocean freight due to the Red Sea and a pull forward in shipments in certain industrial sectors in advance of planned U. S. Tariffs on China.

Speaker 3

However, we are managing our cost base very tightly, and we continue to expect adjusted EBITDA margin, excluding Melissa and Doug to be in line with 2023. In connection with Melissa and Doug, for 2024, we continue to expect gross product sales of between $420,000,000 $430,000,000 with revenue of 370 dollars to $375,000,000 Melissa and Doug retail inventory is in a very healthy position. From a seasonality perspective, second half revenues for Melissa and Doug will be split roughly equally between Q3 and Q4. For 2024, we continue to expect Melissa and Doug's adjusted EBITDA margin to be approximately 19.5%. The integration activities with Melissa and Doug are progressing well.

Speaker 3

We are successfully identifying cost synergies with $1,400,000 in net cost synergies realized year to date. We continue to expect $6,000,000 of net cost synergies to be generated in 2024. A few specific outlook call outs for 2024. Marketing will remain between 9% 10% of revenue. Cash interest paid will be around $25,000,000 Our consolidated effective tax rate estimate remains at approximately 26%.

Speaker 3

CapEx is expected to be just under 6% of revenue. Depreciation and amortization, excluding Melissa and Doug, is expected to be approximately $105,000,000 of which $65,000,000 will hit COGS. Melissa and Doug depreciation and amortization is expected to be approximately $27,000,000 In conclusion, we will continue to focus our capital allocation strategy on innovation, entertainment content, digital games and M and A. We will then return cash to shareholders through both share buybacks and dividends and will continue to pay down debt with residual cash. We expect to end 2024 with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of approximately 0.8x.

Speaker 3

Overall, we remain on track to achieve our financial targets for 2024 and are confident in our ability to manage our capital effectively. We remain well positioned strategically, financially and operationally and are fully committed to continue to execute our strategy for long term growth and shareholder value creation. That concludes our prepared remarks. We will now be pleased to take questions. Operator, please open the line.

Speaker 1

Thank

Operator

Your first question comes from Martin Landry with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning guys.

Speaker 3

Good morning. Good morning, Mohan.

Speaker 4

There's a lot of noise in your results with the shipments going into Q3 with the Millicent Doug acquisition as well. So I was wondering if maybe we can take a step back and look at things a bit more higher level. And Max, in your opening remarks, you're talking about your capabilities in toys, entertainment and digital games, that it will allow you to deliver on your long term financial goals. So I was wondering if you could expand a little bit on what are the company's long term financial goals?

Speaker 2

Martin, good morning. First of all, before we get to the financial goals for the future, we are very committed and confident to deliver this year's guidance. Okay, so let me start with that. And have started Q3 with a really positive tone. So that's the start of my answer.

Speaker 2

The second thing is we want to continue to basically grow our toy business and beat industry growth rates. That's what we've been doing and that's what we will continue to do. And we will lean into innovation, building brands and our great and expanding license portfolio that we continue to gain from key licensors. When it comes to entertainment, we have now created 2 new IPs and we will continue to basically bring new IPs to the company while nurturing the IP we just launched and let's not forget having PAW Patrol forever. When it turns into our digital games, we are very, very committed and have great confidence in continuing to build both our Toca Boca property into a very large franchise including multiplayer game and including novel concepts for children that come into a digital ecosystem as social broadcasting and our subscription business which is accelerating its subscribers from just over 300,000 about a year ago, now closing on 500,000 and on our way to a 1,000,000 by next year.

Speaker 2

So we're very confident that we have all the tools in place. And let's not forget, we've brought a beautiful brand like Melissa and Doug, which has responded very well to marketing and in store programming. And we have already started Q3 with a very, very, very positive foot forward. Prime Day was a great, great example of supporting the brand fully and he has responded beautifully. So we have a bright future and I hope that helps answer the question.

Speaker 4

Yes. Well, maybe just a follow-up on that. In the past, I believe it was the company communicated that the targets for organic growth was aspirationally to grow in the mid single digit range and to complement that with M and A, so to bring your revenue growth in the high single digits and also for your EBITDA margin to expand annually as digital gains would become a larger portion of revenues. Is that still achievable and is that still aspirationally your goals?

Speaker 2

That is. Nothing has changed versus what you stated. I will have Mark expand, but that is what we're planning against.

Speaker 3

Yes. So Martin, as you described, if you actually look since our IPO, our gross product sales CAGR has been around 8%. And as we said at the IPO and have continued to say, we expect our organic gross product sales growth to be in the mid single digits range. We will supplement that with acquisitions over time. Obviously, there will be some years of higher growth and some years of more modest growth.

Speaker 3

And the other point that we've said publicly, which we continue to drive towards, is that we want 20% of our total revenue to come from the digital games area as well. And that's a big part of our margin goals. And our gross margin goals are to be north of 50% on gross margin and to be north of 20% on adjusted EBITDA margins.

Speaker 4

Okay. That's helpful. And then you alluded to Q3 a little bit and then maybe I was wondering if you could share some color. You talked about Amazon Prime being strong for Melissa and Doug. But is there any other color you can talk about in terms of shelf space heading into Q3, point of sale for July, any tidbits you could share would be helpful?

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. We started Q3 obviously with a well over double digit GPS growth versus year ago, a lot of that obviously part of the shipments moving forward. But importantly, when you think about Q2 POS into June July, the Q2 POS industry down 5% was down 8%. And you look at it sequentially, May was better than April June was better than May. And in fact, in June, we were in line with the industry and in Europe, we were well ahead of industry.

Speaker 2

And so we beat from we actually grew 3.2%, industry was down 2.7%. Into July that trend continues and we feel very confident.

Speaker 3

I just want to add, Martin, to your point. As we called out in the guidance, we expect our Q3 to represent a bigger proportion of sales this year than we did than we saw in Q3 last year. And that's also good news in the sense that it actually puts less pressure on Q4 for us because a lot of the shipments come in earlier, it gives us more opportunity to get replenishment orders. So we feel good about that.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you. And Mark, congrats on your accomplishments and good luck in your future endeavors. Thanks, Martin.

Speaker 3

Operator, do you want to move to the next question, please?

Operator

One moment, please. There are no questions at this time. Please proceed.

Speaker 3

Yes. Operator, I think, Sofia has indicated that some of the questions that were lined up appear to have dropped. I'm not sure if that's if you can see anything on your end.

Operator

Yes. That's what I see as well. If you

Speaker 3

Maybe we'll just give the participants a minute or 2 to actually log in again. And if not, we'll wrap it up.

Operator

Okay. Your next question comes from Luke Cannon with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. Good morning and I'll echo that congratulations as well, Mark. Towards the end of your prepared remarks, you talked about the pull forward of some orders as it relates to tariffs. It sounds like folks in the industry want to get ahead of some tariff implementations.

Speaker 5

And if I recall correctly, that is something similar experience that we had witnessed about 4 or 5 years ago. So can you just give us a sense, maybe a high level overview of, 1, if that is the case, if it is a similar setup to around this time 5 years ago? And if so, how much better prepared are you for that sort of scenario compared to back then?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Luke. I'm glad you asked the question, because my reference to tariffs actually has nothing to do with the toy industry. There is no impact on tariffs for the toy industry. The reference was to the tariffs that the U. S.

Speaker 3

Government put on electronic components and solar panels that impacted various technology industries in the U. S, I think effective August 1. And as a result of that, those industries were pulling forward orders into the U. S. And a lot of containers were actually on their way to the U.

Speaker 3

S. And not where they needed to be in China. As a result of that, that caused a little bit of volatility in the ocean freight pricing market. And that actually caused some of our retail customers to delay some of their deliveries from Q2 into Q3 with the expectation that the rates would then decline again when things settled down. So I just want to be clear, that had nothing to do whatsoever with tariffs on toys, but simply was an industry wide issue that affected ocean freight rates in general for the market.

Speaker 3

I hope that's clear now.

Speaker 5

It is. That's very helpful. If we can maybe switch gears to digital games, I'm curious to know when it comes to specifically Toka Days and Rubik's Match, how are you doing so far in the markets where these properties are deployed? How are you doing as far as KPIs go across acquisition engagement and monetization, notwithstanding the fact that as you called out earlier, the macro seems to be affecting the monetization element of things?

Speaker 2

Good morning, Luke. Let's start with our Rubik's Match. We are achieving good soft launch KPIs and strong app stability, specifically on the KPIs day 1, day 3 retention are quite healthy. Our store conversion is also very healthy and we're getting closer to our final monetization soft launch KPIs. So we feel good about that.

Speaker 2

And we're basically still scheduled to launch in September broadly. So that's basically the sequence on Rubik's Match. When you get to total days, actually very positive as well. We have short term engagement, which is performing to our expectations. So the one retention, first time user experience, the session lens is outstanding.

Speaker 2

And then we're now basically into the long term retention and app stability and monetization. I'll just give you some things that are very encouraging from where we sit. One of the most impressive stats is and I'm happy to share with you our MAU on Toca days organically has already crossed 400,000 MAU in Q2 and is climbing. And this is simply just by us basically getting into these markets and there are no big markets we've gotten into. We're being very cautious.

Speaker 2

And as we look ahead, we're basically working on content, social features, retention features and building towards a monetization level we feel very confident with. So that's where we are on both games and making strong progress and keeping our commitments to launch.

Speaker 5

Great. And in that 400,000 has there been a big migration from Toka Life World into Toka Days or are these net new organic users?

Speaker 2

They're mostly organic users. So there is some obviously there are some people who are playing both and as we stated our MAU on Toka Life World actually climbed to an all time high at the same time we're launching in these markets. So obviously we have KPI at the market level and we're encouraged with any cannibalization that we would have expected.

Speaker 5

Great. Okay. Last question for me and then I'll pass the line. For Toka Life World, I'm curious to know amongst your player cohorts, where is it exactly that you're seeing fewer in app purchases? Is it with those players that have been part of the player base for a while?

Speaker 5

Or is it some of those newer players?

Speaker 2

So we actually have increasing ARPU with some of our current players and we needed to get more people to come in. So we actually have released some free content, which is driving engagement and this is more towards June, Luke. So we're now beginning to see the effect of that in July. And so we're seeing a halo effect of players coming into the game and purchasing reach catalog of content, that's number 1. And then second, as we look to the back half beyond that, we have a lot of interventions to continue to drive the monetization.

Speaker 2

One of the more exciting things about the second half on Toka Life World is we have 37% more content dropping this year than last year and that is very important. 2nd, we secured a strategic collaboration that is going to launch in Q4. Recall we did SpongeBob last year and the year before with the Hello Kitty. We have a super exciting new co lab for Q4. We look forward to that and we have 2 new features set to launch in Q4.

Speaker 2

We haven't had a new feature on Toka Life World in quite some time and that will give players an opportunity and value to basically showcase what they're paying for.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from Drew McReynolds with RBC. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Yes, thanks very much and congrats, Mark. So just a couple of high level ones. Just curious just to see from your perspective just how the macro environment is evolving. I think, Max, in your prepared remarks, you talked about kind of improving consumer sentiment, but just overall, the consumer being volatile, yet kind of retailers are cautiously optimistic about kind of the back half of the year here. So kind of it all sounds very confusing to me on this side.

Speaker 6

So just would love to get an update on just how things have evolved. And then secondly, just with respect, and I guess, Max, for you on the setup for 2025. Obviously, on the macro side, there's things you can't control overall. But it does seem like across each of your three segments, the pipeline of whether it's new toys, new IP is building. I'd love to get your thoughts on the strength of that pipeline across all three segments relative to where you think you've been in prior years and whether you actually do see it as potentially a much stronger setup here looking forward?

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Great. Really, really good question and very complex question. So I'm going to decompose it for you. From a retail perspective, right, retailers have gone over their inventory situations, inventories as we get to the back half are cleaner and that's a really positive thing. It's both retail inventory, our owned inventory.

Speaker 2

That's number 1. Number 2, they've gotten retailers that is from a profitability graph and just making sure to have their fundamentals cleaned to now looking for growth. And so there's an impetus to grow the category and that's really positive too. So there's a lot of enthusiasm to invest in the category. 3rd, now getting to the consumer.

Speaker 2

From a consumer perspective, the consumer continues to look for deals, continues to look for opportunities to actually get into the new items as well. We have in our line address price points and the breadth of our line across different price points to be very competitive and actually we're seeing success. And Prime Day was an example from Liz and Doug and for us as well where we actually had well priced items, how well that did for the company. And as we get into the back half, not only do we have the promotional support for our brands and the key price points, we also have an entry into the value channel in the U. S, which is going to give us a broader access to the consumer who's looking for that deal.

Speaker 2

So we feel very good about that. And then importantly from the consumer, we're still seeing the consumer truly engage with new items in the category. And this year we have more new GPS percent of our total toy business, both across Melissa and Doug and Spin Master than we did a year ago. And on Melissa and Doug specifically, we have 2 great innovations in the second half of this year, which they would have not had last year. And so we feel really good about that.

Speaker 2

I mentioned blockables as brand new and the Wow innovation platform is doing incredibly well. Beyond that, we have a PlayGM that just launched and just on the initial launch period is doing incredibly well. We talked Rachel, we talked Betsy, all those things are now set and gives us confidence because of the early POS that we will have something to chase as we get to the Q4 with replenishment as Mark alluded to. As we get into the future and I'm sticking with TOI, we have an incredible portfolio both of innovation, we have full year effects of Ms. Rachel, a full year effect of Hatchimals.

Speaker 2

We have a full year effect. Some of the big things we're having just launched this year, which is really positive. But on top of that, we have the full year effect of channel expansion into the value channel, for example. And on top of that, we also have a great, great set of theatricals that is complementing our brand, our core brands and our basically franchises as well as everything we're doing with a channel perspective. So we feel very strongly about 2025 for Toy, both in List and Duck and Spin Master.

Speaker 2

So when it goes beyond that, we have a full year effect of Unicorn Academy, which then gets into licensing and merchandising for the entertainment business. And when we're launching the games full out in 2025, right, we're just in soft launch mode as we basically get into the year. And a lot of the interventions I mentioned on Toka Live World are just now rolling into markets, so you get the full year effect of that, as well as a subscription business, which from a monthly recurring revenue as Mark alluded to in his remarks, is doing incredibly well. So all that bodes well for us in 2025, a year we feel very confident about. The last piece on the acquisition of Melissa and Doug is we're going to have the full year effect of the expansion into Canada and Mexico, which is happening here.

Speaker 2

But we're going to have the 1st year effect of our full international expansion, which I think adds another building block and a key component for the Millicentog growth. So I hope that gives you a better picture and we're quite confident.

Speaker 6

Yes, that's great. Max, very thorough. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Drew.

Operator

Your next question comes from Brian Morrison with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thanks very much. Call providers had some issues today, so I apologize if there's some repeat here. So Matt, I want to talk about Melissa and Doug a little bit more. So see some sequential improvement in Q2 relative to Q1.

Speaker 7

You've mentioned some notable success on Amazon Prime. I understand the seasonality. I'm hoping you can go a little deeper with data points as we move into the second half that convey confidence in the outlook for M and D. I think Mark said orders were up double digits in Q2. Is that correct?

Speaker 7

Maybe repeat that data point. And then perhaps color on the level of the Q3 order book relative to last year, How much ballpark inventory catch up in the channel is required to normalize? And I think your guidance this year is not far off last year's revenue from the bar report. So how are you tracking relative to last year through Q2 on Melissa and Doug?

Speaker 2

Great. We're going to this is great. Let me get Mark to clarify the first question you asked and then I'll pick it up from there. Mark?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. So Brian, what I actually referred to in my prepared remarks was the fact that Melissa and Doug shipments in Q2 were up double digits relative to Q2 last year. On a year to date basis, actually Melissa and Doug for 2024 year to date is actually flat with Melissa and Doug 23 year to date. But what all the growth initiatives that Max has referred to actually come in the second half of the year. So let me hand it back to him to go over those points again.

Speaker 2

So Brian, I think on Melissa and Doug, we saw significant improvement in Q2. We also invest to get that improvement. And the good news is that the brand is super strong and responded, both at retail and in consumption through the increased marketing. So that's the first thing. So we have a proof point on the investment and the return on that investment.

Speaker 2

So we'll continue to invest as we now started to in Q3. Q3's order book is very strong. One thing that will give that has given us confidence and should give you confidence is the fact that some the orders have now turned into direct import orders. So the retailer also got more confident as they saw the consumption improved. And so from an order that we would have brought historically, now they're bringing because they basically want to get behind it.

Speaker 2

Okay, that's really important too. Number 3, from an order book and into Q4, as we've told you from the day we actually began to talk about the brand, Q4 is massively critical for Melissa and Doug. The good news is that we have Q3 order books reflecting the planning for Q4. Why? Because we have more innovation in Q4 than we would have had a year ago.

Speaker 2

A year ago, we didn't have blockables. A year ago, we didn't have the play gym. And a year ago, we would have not had the broad expansion of the sticker Wow launch. And so on top of that, we have Ms. Rachel as a synergy play for Melissa and Doug as well.

Speaker 2

So from an innovation perspective, and you know how important innovation is to the category, we feel very strongly about the fact that we have those building blocks which we didn't have a year ago. Number 4, we basically have now Canada shipping with our commercial team at Spin Master, which is actually great. And we have Mexico starting as we speak. So we're going to have 2 countries that would have basically just been under distributors at very low levels owned by Spin Master through our own sales force that also will give us new revenue. So for all those reasons, we feel very confident that Melissa and Doug in the second half will deliver according to what we've guided and hopefully we'll push beyond that.

Speaker 7

Okay. Matt, thank you. That's very thorough. I want to go into the digital game segment for a minute. I know there was a question

Speaker 5

on it, but can you

Speaker 7

just maybe go into more detail upon the year over year softness? Is this simply industry specific? Is there a delay in terms of global launch of TOKA Days or Mubix? And then I do have one small follow-up in terms of timing, if that's okay.

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. I think it's a very fair question. It comes down to Talk Alive World and it comes down to basically less in app purchases for the consumer segment we play with, right. And so but on top of that, we basically see that as we began to activate, we have had conversion improvements on Toka Life World. So we have great engagement, Brian.

Speaker 2

We just have to drive conversion so that we can get the ARPU the levels we know produces the revenue that we need. So it comes down to specifically Total Life World. By the way, subscriptions is doing better than we had planned. So that's a really positive thing. And from a games new games perspective, they were never intended to be launched and monetized immediately in Q4.

Speaker 2

We always plan for this to be a long we want to launch them right. And we actually had in our planning more of a back half component to the revenue. So it's really Talk Alive World and it's really player monetization conversion specifically.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then my follow-up is the timing for a global launch of Toka Days, I don't know if you know that yet, but also merchandise for Ms. Rachel, Unicorn Academy entering the value chain, should that all show up in the GPS in Q3? And Mark, you did say that you expect the GPS to be higher in Q3 in the second half this year than it was last year. I think it was 57% last year.

Speaker 7

Any color on that number?

Speaker 2

I'll start and then I'll turn it over to Mark with the numbers. So the answer to your question on what has already said in June specifically, the answer is no. Ms. Rachel was not in the 2nd quarter numbers. What was in the 2nd quarter numbers, Brian, is a bit of Unicorn Academy, a bit of Bitsys and a bit of not Hatchimals yet, puny rooms, all those things give us confidence from a POS early days, right, but those already began to ship.

Speaker 2

The majority of the shipments for new is Q3 including Ms. Rachel, we have not yet said Ms. Rachel to be clear. So there's a lot ahead of us and from a Q3 versus year ago, we are well positioned to exceed year ago nicely.

Speaker 7

And the value chain?

Speaker 2

Value chain is not setting until Q3, starting in Q3. So that has not yet come into effect.

Speaker 3

So Brian, just in connection with your question on seasonality, I'm not sure what numbers you're referencing. Let me repeat again. For Spin Master, we expect Q3 to represent approximately 40% of the full year guidance that we've given you compared to 38% last year. And then for Melissa and Doug, Q3 to be about 50% of the year. Sorry, let me repeat.

Speaker 3

This Q3 and Q4 will be roughly equal in size in relation to each other. But Melissa and Doug overall seasonality is around 80% in the second half. So it would represent around 4040 at Q3, Q4. I hope that clarifies.

Speaker 7

I'll take it offline, Ed. I had one more, but I'll offline. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Okay. I think we have 2 more questions.

Operator

Your next question comes from Adam Shine with National Bank. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Thanks a lot. Good morning. Most of my questions were asked after I had to re queue up. But maybe one for you, Mark. Can you give us the split like you often did in the past in terms of FOB versus direct, especially given some of the moving pieces that you alluded to today?

Speaker 3

Yes. Historically, Adam, if you go back to earlier days, it was typically around 60% FOB, 40% domestic. In the last few years, that shifted down to the mid-50s as Europe has grown, which is much more of a domestic market. And now increasingly more so with Melissa and Doug because a lot of Melissa and Doug's Q4 volume is actually domestic. So overall, our FOB versus domestic split for 2024 is estimated to be around 52% FOB, 48% domestic.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. And I guess going back to the prior answers, a lot of confidence around Q3, as Max alluded to and outlined. Obviously, some help just in terms of some of the delayed shipments from Q3 sorry Q2 into Q3. But we think about some of the been sort of the early part of Q4, been sort of the early part of Q4 showing some signs of slowdown. And I'm not so much talking about Melissa and Doug, Max, because I think you already explained that very clearly.

Speaker 8

But as it relates to the core business, particularly going into Q4, can you maybe just elaborate a little bit further on some of the confidence? Is it significantly related to the state of inventories and the anticipation of replenishment going into Q4 that may have been absent in prior years? Maybe there's 1 or 2 other things that you could allude to.

Speaker 2

Yes. I will start and then I'll pass it on to Mark from a numbers perspective. But the confidence Adam and good morning is driven by 3 things. Number 1, the percent of new for us this year in Spin Master is higher and some of that has not set yet. And as we get into Q4, we've also got more marketing for us into late Q3, Q4 than we did a year ago.

Speaker 2

So we have new with a lot more marketing support, which actually bodes well for us, number 1. Why? Because on some of those, we already begin to see some early POS signs of we're going to chase and that's really positive. Number 2 is, we basically have the expansion into new channels that is going to help us get more revenue as well. And so that's very, very important.

Speaker 2

And number 3, unlike last year where people were not reordering because they had inventory, our inventory positions are better. And you actually stated that in your question and you're correct. Not only for replenishment in Q4, but as actually we said the Q1 of 2025. And because we have new things coming in 2025, for those things to set, we have to ship in November, December. And therefore, we see Q4 from a GPS perspective as also having something we didn't have last year.

Speaker 3

Yes. So just Max, I think you've covered mostly all of it. I will say we are confident in our outlook, Adam, for all the reasons we've discussed on the call and we've alluded to in the Q and A afterwards. Obviously, if you look at it by creative center, in the toy area, there is the element of replenishment, which is very tough to call well ahead of the actual season. So there's always the element of replenishment potentially providing upside or downside depending on what's happening in the market.

Speaker 3

So just keep that in mind as you well know. But on the entertainment side, we have good visibility into what's happening. And on the digital game side, as Max described, we have a lot of activity in the second half of the year. And for all the reasons, when you put that all together, together with our cost control, we feel confident in our outlook for the second half and for the full year.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Speaker 3

I think we'll have to take our last question on the line of please.

Operator

Your next question comes from David McFadgen with Cormark Securities. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thank you. So I don't know if you provided this on the call. I may have missed it. But if you look at your Q1 presentation on Slide 12, I don't know if you have it handy.

Speaker 9

But you provided us point of sale metrics for some of the key properties. And I was wondering if you could provide that for Q2 specifically PAW Patrol would be really helpful.

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. So on PAW Patrol, we were just slightly below the and I alluded to in my remarks, slightly below the infant preschool category, which was down. So we were down a little bit more than that and that is really more because we last year in Q2 had began to ship and began to see consumption for movie items. So when you exclude that, you would basically find that we were just in line.

Speaker 3

And David, if there's anything else specific that you want, maybe Sofia can be in touch with you after the call on any particular item. Okay.

Speaker 9

Okay. That would be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Okay. Well, I think we're going to wrap it up at that point. Thank you so much for participating. And we'll talk to you again after Q3 results in early November. So thanks, everyone.

Speaker 3

Have a good day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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Key Takeaways

  • Q2 revenue declined 2.1% year-over-year to $412 million and toy gross product sales fell 1.4%, reflecting the lapping of strong Paw Patrol movie shipments and ongoing consumer spending pressures.
  • Spin Master maintained full-year guidance and expects Q3 to represent approximately 40% of the year’s toy gross product sales, up from 38% in 2023.
  • Integration of Melissa & Doug is on track, with $1.4 million of net cost synergies realized year-to-date and $6 million expected for 2024.
  • Digital games revenue declined just over 14% in Q2 due to lower in-app purchases in Toca Life World amid an industry-wide slowdown in mobile gaming.
  • Subscriptions gained momentum, with 90% of new activations for the Picnic bundle, monthly active users up 3% to 61 million, and record monthly recurring revenue achieved.
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