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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Lexicon Pharmaceuticals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.17Consensus EPS -$0.18Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS-$0.22Lexicon Pharmaceuticals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.65 millionExpected Revenue$2.74 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.09 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ALexicon Pharmaceuticals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/1/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 1, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsLexicon Pharmaceuticals' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, May 7, 2026, based on past reporting schedulesConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Lexicon Pharmaceuticals Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Empefa Q2 net sales were $1.6 million and commercial access ticked up to 48%, but heavy step‐through requirements and underpenetrated SGLT use in heart failure continue to limit growth. Lexicon resubmitted the NDA for Zynquista as an oral adjunct to insulin in Type 1 diabetes with chronic kidney disease and received a PDUFA date of December 20, 2024, positioning it for a potential early 2025 launch in an estimated 400,000-patient market. The pivotal Phase 3 SONATA HCM trial of sotagliflozin has launched with sites enrolling 500 patients using KCCQ as the primary endpoint, aiming for data by late 2026/early 2027 and the first SGLT therapy indication in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. The Phase 2b dose‐optimization study of LX9211 for diabetic peripheral neuropathic pain remains on track for topline data in Q2 2025 and could become the first new non-opioid DPNP therapy in over 20 years. The novel ACSL5 inhibitor LX9851 entered IND-enabling studies as an oral obesity and weight management candidate, showing preclinical reductions in body fat, preserved lean mass and favorable metabolic effects. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallLexicon Pharmaceuticals Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to Lexicon Pharmaceuticals' second quarter 2024 financial results conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa DeFrancesco, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Strategy. Please go ahead. Lisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor Relations at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:00:45Thank you, Betsy. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Lexicon Pharmaceuticals second quarter 2024 financial results conference call. Joining me today are Dr. Mike Exton, Lexicon's new Chief Executive Officer and Director; Jeff Wade, President and Chief Operating Officer; Tom Garner, Senior Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer; Dr. Craig Granowitz, Senior Vice President and Chief Medical Officer; and Dr. Alan Main, Executive Vice President, Innovation and Chemical Sciences. Earlier this afternoon, Lexicon issued a press release announcing our financial results for the second quarter of 2024, which is available on our website at www.lexpharma.com and through our SEC filing. A webcast of this call, along with a slide presentation, is also available on our website. Lisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor Relations at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:01:30During this call, we will review the information provided in the release, provide a corporate update, and then use the remainder of our time to answer your questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that we will be making forward-looking statements relating to the safety, efficacy, clinical development, regulatory status, and therapeutic and commercial potential of INPEFA, ZYNQUISTA, LX9211, LX9851, and our other drug programs, as well as our business generally. These statements may include characterizations and projections relating to our commercial launch of INPEFA and heart failure, as well as the clinical development, regulatory status, and market opportunity for all of our drug programs. This call may also contain forward-looking statements relating to our growth and future operating results, discovery and development of our drug candidates, strategic alliances and intellectual property, as well as other matters that are not historical facts or information. Lisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor Relations at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:02:23Various risks that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward-looking statements. Let me refer you to our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and other SEC filings for detailed information describing such risks. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Exton. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:02:40Thanks, Lisa, and good day, everyone. Thanks for joining us on the call. Before we begin our discussion on Lexicon's results for the second quarter of 2024, let me start by saying that even in my first few weeks here as CEO, I can already see what a tremendous opportunity we have to bring innovative new therapies to patients, transform the treatment landscape of multiple therapeutic areas, and indeed transform Lexicon as a company. Now, moving on to our accomplishments for the year, which are indeed incredibly significant. First of all, our INPEFA business continued to grow modestly, and we saw progress across all areas of focus in this highly competitive market. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:03:24Importantly, we also resubmitted our NDA for ZYNQUISTA and have received a PDUFA goal date of December 20, 2024, setting us up for a potential commercial launch in this untapped market in early 2025. Furthermore, our phase III study for sotagliflozin in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy or HCM, is underway, with sites already open and beginning to enroll patients. In addition, our phase IIB study for LX9211 in diabetic peripheral neuropathic pain or DPNP, is on track to meet its timelines and its objectives, with top-line data anticipated second quarter of 2025. And finally, our exciting novel drug candidate, LX9851, an oral therapy for obesity and weight management, which we believe has the potential to become an innovative next-gen treatment in this large market, is progressing into preclinical development. These are all really solid opportunities for Lexicon, not only for next year, but well beyond. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:04:31So let's take a look at sotagliflozin in particular. We see a significant opportunity for value and growth with this compound across additional indications where sotagliflozin's unique mechanism of action has potential for beneficial effect. Lexicon has taken a purposeful approach in each one of the areas that we're exploring, and as a result, we're now preparing for the next near-term opportunity to commercially launch ZYNQUISTA for glycemic control in adults with type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease, while working towards a longer-term goal of expanding sotagliflozin into HCM. Now, in both of these areas, there are no SGLT therapies indicated, and we believe that the dual inhibition of SGLT1 and SGLT2 offers unique advantages. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:05:20These areas of unmet need are also highly concentrated in terms of treatment landscape, and they're very different from the competitive environment we're experiencing in heart failure, which currently is dominated by two larger players within a complex treatment and reimbursement environment. These are really very exciting near and long-term opportunities for Lexicon, and as we advance this pipeline of current and potential indications for sotagliflozin, we'll continue to weigh and consider where this unique innovation can have the most impact for patients. Now, as we then go and look holistically at our pipeline, we see similar pipeline and appeal opportunities for our other candidates as well. We have the ability to potentially address unmet medical needs within large markets, with development opportunities beyond their initial indications, whether pursued by Lexicon alone or with a strategic partner. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:06:13I'm truly thrilled to have joined Lexicon at this pivotal time, when we can focus on unlocking the significant value that these opportunities represent. With that overview, I'd like to now turn it over to Jeff Wade, President and COO, to discuss in detail the business and financial results. Over to you, Jeff. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:06:32Thank you, Mike. I'd like to begin with our INPEFA results. Net sales for the second quarter of 2024 were $1.6 million, and $2.7 million for the first half of 2024. We saw improvements in billed TRx and number of new prescribers, a modest expansion in access, and greater pull-through. This progress is due to the strong efforts of the team assembled by and aligned under Tom Garner since he joined the company last year. Achieving better market access remains the key to more significant growth for INPEFA and heart failure. Our goal has been and remains to achieve formulary access that is favorable for patients and equitable in light of INPEFA's value, and we are continuing to have discussions with payers driven by INPEFA's value and differentiating data. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:07:30Payer coverage improved slightly in the second quarter to 48%, although most of this coverage still requires step-through of competing therapies, an obstacle that we're focused on eliminating. Some payers have been taking longer to make coverage decisions due to uncertainties associated with the IRA, particularly around the prices to be announced by CMS on September first for the first group of products selected for negotiation, a group that includes three major heart failure medications. We expect improvements in coverage as these uncertainties are resolved and as we continue to demonstrate the value of INPEFA for patients, providers, and payers. It's important to note that SGLT use remains highly underpenetrated in heart failure, with significant room for growth, despite strong recommendations within the ACC treatment guidelines and consensus statements for both HFrEF and HFpEF. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:08:29Recommendations that are based in substantial part on INPEFA data, especially as it relates to initiation of therapy after a hospitalization. I'd now like to move to ZYNQUISTA, which has the opportunity to be the first-ever oral adjunct to insulin therapy indicated to improve glycemic control in adults with type 1 diabetes. Our approach with ZYNQUISTA is part of our overall strategy to expand the use of sotagliflozin beyond the competitive heart failure market into high-value opportunities where other SGLT inhibitors are not indicated, and in which we believe sotagliflozin's unique SGLT1 mechanism offers advantages. We've made a lot of progress this past quarter and in the time since. We resubmitted our NDA for ZYNQUISTA in June as an adjunct to insulin in adults with type 1 diabetes and CKD. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:09:25The FDA notified us in July that they considered our resubmission to be a complete response to their 2019 action letter, and they gave us a PDUFA goal date of December 20th, 2024. Based on our recent communications with FDA, it is likely we will have the opportunity for an advisory committee meeting. We look forward to the chance to present and discuss with the committee and key stakeholders, including, importantly, the patient community, the opportunity for ZYNQUISTA to address the significant unmet need for adjunctive glycemic control in this population. From our preliminary market research, we expect more than 400,000 adults in the U.S. with type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease could be eligible for treatment. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:10:15We've seen strong enthusiasm for an approved adjunct to insulin among the concentrated group of endocrinologists who manage treatment decisions in type 1 diabetes. From our payer research, we expect the market access environment to be considerably more favorable in type 1 diabetes than in heart failure. Our opportunity to be the first adjunct to insulin therapy in a market in which patients are highly engaged, and an indication that is not subject to extensive management, are all important factors for achieving favorable and timely market access. We believe that sotagliflozin's unique dual SGLT1 and SGLT2 mechanism offers advantages in addressing the challenges in people who have type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease. Both are relevant to type 1 diabetes, but the inhibition of SGLT1, the primary transporter for glucose uptake from the GI tract, offers particular benefits. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:11:19SGLT1 inhibition slows the uptake of glucose from meals, blunting postprandial glucose peaks and reducing glycemic variability. Unlike SGLT2 inhibition, the effects of SGLT1 inhibition do not decline with the reduced renal function that characterizes chronic kidney disease. The focus of our NDA resubmission on people with type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease aligns then both with a population in which a better glycemic control is more important, and also with sotagliflozin's unique mechanism of action. We believe that the greater benefit in this population weighs favorably against the increased risk of diabetic ketoacidosis, or DKA, that has been observed in clinical studies of all SGLT inhibitors, including sotagliflozin and type 1 diabetes, and that drove the complete response letter that our resubmission addresses. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:12:17We are pleased to say that we have initiated our pivotal phase III SONATA trial for HCM, with the opportunity to transform the standard of care in this area of high unmet need. We are leveraging outcomes data from our SCORED trial in heart failure, KCCQ data from SOLOIST, and other evidence providing a strong scientific rationale for the potential of sotagliflozin in this indication. This slide shows the design of SONATA-HCM, a pivotal phase III placebo-controlled study with a targeted enrollment of 500 patients with obstructive or non-obstructive HCM. We have sites up and running and have commenced patient recruitment in the study. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:13:05The primary endpoint of the study is change from baseline in KCCQ score, an endpoint that has been accepted by the FDA as the primary endpoint in this and other label-enabling HCM trials, and with which we have previously achieved success in our SOLOIST heart failure trial. Importantly, SONATA-HCM is studying a broader patient population than that studied in other ongoing trials in HCM, as we are allowing patients to be on cardiac myosin inhibitors, as well as allowing the use of beta blockers and calcium channel blockers. We are also enrolling patients with an ejection fraction down to 50%, which is lower than the studies of cardiac myosin inhibitors for which heart failure is a risk. Of course, sotagliflozin is already indicated as INPEFA to reduce heart failure, which is the major risk for these patients. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:14:00We have obtained feedback from FDA that success in this single study could support a broad label for sotagliflozin in HCM. Once again, an indication in an important area of unmet need that would be unique to sotagliflozin among SGLT inhibitors. Current estimates suggest that around 1 million patients in the United States today have HCM. Many are not diagnosed, in part because of the nonspecific nature of HCM symptoms, but diagnostic rates have been rising rapidly, a trend which is expected to continue over the next decade with an increased focus on the disease. Looking further into our pipeline, we have in LX9211, another opportunity to redefine the standard of care in an important area of need, in this case, in neuropathic pain. LX9211 has the potential to be the first new non-opioid treatment for neuropathic pain in over two decades. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:15:01Our PROGRESS phase IIB dose optimization study began enrolling towards the end of 2023, and is well on track for top-line data in the first half of 2025. It is important to note that this study, like our proof of concept studies, is placebo-controlled and allows patients to remain on stable dose standard of care therapy rather than removing all pain medications, consistent with how DPNP drugs are likely to be used in real-world practice. We learned a great deal in our phase II RELIEF-DPN study, which we are applying to this phase IIB PROGRESS study, with a key hypothesis being that we can improve tolerability by eliminating the 10x first-day loading dose in the prior study. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:15:50At this point, we feel quite confident about where we are in this study and are very much looking forward to the results next year. Approximately 20 million patients in the United States are suffering with some type of neuropathic pain, of which about 5 million have DPNP, with significant growth predicted in the future. We believe LX9211 could offer a real benefit to patients and to the clinical community who are looking for better options to improve outcomes for patients with DPNP. Our newest drug candidate to emerge from our Genome5000 platform is LX9851 in the exciting area of obesity and weight management. We believe that LX9851 has the potential, like our other assets, to be developed in additional indications and to be used as a combination therapy as well. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:16:45LX9851 is a small molecule inhibitor of the target acyl-CoA synthetase 5, or ACSL5, that we believe could be given orally for chronic weight management, with a target product profile that reduces body fat, spares lean body mass, and favorably affects overall metabolic profile. In preclinical studies, it has reduced cholesterol and triglycerides, improved insulin sensitivity, and demonstrated potential in additional related indications such as metabolic syndrome and MASH. The obesity and weight management space is an area of tremendous interest, and we're very excited about the potential for an oral once-daily therapy with these mechanisms that complement and enhance current therapies. We've moved into IND-enabling studies, and we are very focused on submitting data to upcoming medical meetings. Now we will review some of the key elements of our second quarter of 2024 financial results. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:17:49You can find more financial details in the press release that we issued earlier today and in our 10-Q that will be filed shortly with the SEC. We ended the quarter with $310 million in cash and investments. As indicated in our press release this afternoon, we had $1.6 million in revenues in the second quarter of 2024, almost all from net sales of INPEFA and had minimal revenues for the same period in 2023. R&D expenses for the second quarter of 2024 increased to $17.6 million from $14.5 million for the corresponding period in 2023, primarily due to higher external R&D expenses as our development programs PROGRESS. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:18:38SG&A expenses for the second quarter of 2024 increased to $39.2 million from $30 million for the corresponding period in 2023, reflecting the investment in the commercial launch of INPEFA. In total, net loss for the second quarter of 2024 was $53.4 million, or $0.17 per share, as compared to a net loss of $44.9 million, or $0.22 per share, in the corresponding period in 2023. For the second quarters of 2024 and 2023, net loss included non-cash stock-based compensation expense of $4.9 million and $3.8 million, respectively. Now I'll turn it back over to Mike for some closing remarks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:19:26Yeah, thanks, Jeff. Look, in summary, the next 18 months for Lexicon includes several important planned catalysts. First of all, we've got the potential to launch ZYNQUISTA in the early part of next year, which for us is an exclusive opportunity and importantly, a much needed additional treatment option for the type 1 diabetes community. Secondly, we've initiated our SONATA phase III study of sotagliflozin in HCM, and that presents a new and promising area of focus. Thirdly, our phase IIb study of LX9211 in DPNP is on track, with top line data in Q2 of next year. And then finally, we've commenced IND enabling studies of LX9851 in the rapidly evolving area of obesity and weight management, where current treatments are primed for next-gen and combination therapies. So each of these opportunities have a lot in common. They're all in large markets. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:20:25There are significant areas of unmet need, where there's wide space with the true need for new innovative therapies. And which within each of these areas, we have the potential to be the first or only truly exclusive in our approach, unlike what we're experiencing in heart failure currently. And each of these opportunities is supported by thoughtful clinical development, that is informed by discussions with the FDA and designed to incorporate real-world elements of how the drug would actually be used in the market. So as we enter the back half of the year, we're currently evaluating our strategy and our resourcing in order to ensure that we are optimized for success across these programs. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:21:06We believe that we'll have the opportunity over the next 18 months to significantly improve treatment paradigms, transform Lexicon as a company, and create significant value for all of our stakeholders, most importantly, including the patients that we serve. So with that, I'd like to turn it back to the operator to open up the Q&A. Operator00:21:28We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Yasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper Sandler00:22:06Great. Thank you so much, team, for all the updates. A few questions on ZYNQUISTA. Did you mention. I think it sounded like in the prepared remarks that you guys were preparing for an AdCom. I guess if you could maybe talk about whether an AdCom is expected, when it could occur, what could be possible topics? That's sort of like big bucket one, and then bucket two is if you could talk about commercially, how you're thinking about, sort of, do you need to add more salespeople? Is there any, you know, as you will be focused on patients that are under the care of endocrinologists, what would the launch trajectory look like in a more endocrinology focused setting versus a cardiovascular focus? Yasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper Sandler00:22:54Would appreciate any color around that as well, and I'll jump back into the queue for any other questions. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:23:01Okay. Thanks a lot, Yasmeen. I heard two big buckets. Not sure if you had a third, but let me, let me pass the first one to Craig for the AdCom and what we're thinking of timing and expectations, et cetera. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:23:16Yeah, thank you for the question, Yas. And, you know, at this point, we expect that we will get an AdCom from the FDA, and it really would focus on the risk-benefit of treatment. As I think we've shared at prior calls and at other meetings and communications, you know, we've really worked hard to find a population where the risk-benefit is more favorable. We currently are committed, and the FDA has been committed to our target action date of December 20th of this year. I think I'll just take a moment on the risk-benefit, in that, you know, we believe that this group of patients with chronic kidney disease are at much higher rate of disease progression to end-stage disease across a range of underlying diseases such as end-stage kidney disease, heart failure, stroke, myocardial infarction, severe retinopathy, and other diseases. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:24:12So glycemia is actually a marker for that, and the indication we're seeking, as a reminder, is a glycemic control indication with that group of patients with underlying chronic kidney disease. So we're not seeking an indication right now for preventing necessarily progression of the chronic kidney disease, but that is a marker of patients that are gonna have much more rapidly progressive disease across a range of complications of type 1 diabetes. So I think in that regard, you know, we've gotten great feedback from the patient and physician community, and on the need for this therapy. I think in prior communications from FDA, some which publicly, that they acknowledge that insulin alone is not enough in type 1 diabetes patients. They've acknowledged that those that don't have tight glycemic control are at risk of progression of more rapidly progressive disease. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:25:07You know, we look forward to the opportunity if there is an AdCom that we'll be able to share all of this with both the FDA and the medical community. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:25:17Yeah, great. Thanks, Craig. We feel very confident going into that at AdCom, and look forward to presenting all of our and independent data at that time. So, I'll throw it, the second question, the second big bucket to, to Tom, the Chief Commercial Officer, which really focusing on the commercial footprint for ZYNQUISTA and particularly around field force. Tom, if you could take that question? Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:25:42Absolutely. Yep. Thanks, Mike, and thanks for the question, yeah. So, I think as you're well aware, we've spent significant amounts of time and effort really building a highly capable commercial infrastructure, and that crosses field sales, access, and going as deep as kind of patient scope programs as well. I've taken some time since I joined the company as well, just to make sure that we're focusing all of our efforts in the right place with eyes on INPEFA, but kind of with knowing that ZYNQUISTA is probably gonna be coming down the track at some point in the future as well. I think as you're very well aware, and Jeff mentioned this, you know, this is gonna be a somewhat more concentrated marketplace than what we see for heart failure. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:26:27So we estimate that there's gonna be between 3,000 to 4,000 endocrinologists who treat the lion's share of these patients. So given that existing infrastructure that we have in terms of commercial, and as you know, we have around 150 representatives for INPEFA at the moment. Our plan is that we're gonna try and leverage that team as far as possible, to make sure that we can kind of really deliver on the value that we know we can unlock with ZYNQUISTA very quickly, just given the unmet needs that I think are very clear here. While at the same time, making sure that, you know, for INPEFA as well, we continue to support where needed as well. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:27:07Thanks, Tom. Yasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper Sandler00:27:07Thank you so much. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:27:10Thanks. Operator00:27:12The next question comes from Andrew Tsai with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:27:18Hey, thanks. Appreciate you taking my questions. Maybe, just on the AdCom, actually, going back to the AdCom, would it be safe to presume that you're preparing for hypothetical voting decisions or questions around the risk-benefit and as well as a risk mitigation strategy of ZYNQUISTA, or is there anything else you're specifically preparing for? And then secondly, do you think then, based on the comments, so far today, that ZYNQUISTA's launch could be stronger than what you're seeing with INPEFA right now? Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:27:56Great. Same order. I'll throw to you first with Craig, then Tom. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:28:01Great. Thank you, Andrew. Again, we really feel strongly that based on all of the discussions that we've had with the FDA over this past number of months, that they really are gonna focus on the risk benefit. You know, I think what we've talked about is that in this subgroup, which has much higher risk of progression to the complications of diabetes, that tight glycemic control is even more important. And the data has shown convincingly, both overall in the entire inTandem program, nearly 3,000 patients, but also in that renal subgroup, that you have similar and highly significant control of glycemia, whether on baseline insulin or optimized insulin therapy, and that that tight glycemic control will be associated with less progressive disease. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:28:49We've also shown and published that the risk of diabetic ketoacidosis seems to be similar in that subgroup of patients with underlying CKD than in the overall population. We feel quite strongly that the primary questions that FDA will ask is about overall risk-benefit. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:29:08Great. Thanks, Craig. And, Tom, to you. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:29:13Absolutely. Thanks for the question, Andrew. So as we think about ZYNQUISTA for T1D versus INPEFA for heart failure, I mean, the first thing I would say is that this is gonna be a very, very different space to what we encountered with heart failure. You know, as, as Mike mentioned during his remarks, this is gonna be a space that's, that's basically untapped. We know there is some small amount of off, off-label usage of SGLTs at the moment, but largely speaking, this is not a market that has really been brought to the fore. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:29:46So we believe that given the unmet need, given the fact that we know we have a group of endocrinologists who have been kind of at the starting line of being wanting to be able to use these products for quite some time, there is clearly, you know, untapped potential there that we think we're gonna be able to capture very quickly. The other thing that I would point out to you that is gonna be markedly different from heart failure is just the payer dynamics. The challenge that we faced with INPEFA is the fact that heart failure is a tightly managed category, and we are up against, you know, some very big competitors who have some very significant rebate dollars that they're paying. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:30:25We're continuing to push very hard, but as we've started the same dialogue with those payers as it relates to ZYNQUISTA, I can tell you that the feedback that we're already getting on the profile, on the potential utilization management, and how they view just the general management of this category, in particular for T1D patients, is gonna look and feel very, very different to what we face with heart failure. So I think, yes, is the answer to your question. We do see that this will potentially be a space where we can make a very meaningful impact pretty quickly, just given the concentrated market that we're going into. Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:31:03Yeah. Makes sense. Thank you. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:31:04Thanks, Tom, and- Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:31:05Yeah. Okay. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:31:07Just if you'll allow me, Andrew, to just add to that, in fact, that's how we see the rest of the pipeline. I think, you know, as we go through this strategic review, I think we see that each of our assets offers this opportunity for a pipeline in a pill, which is multiple indications. And those indications are in spaces where, like ZYNQUISTA, we will be the first and only player, either as an adjunct or standalone therapy. And as you're aware, that provides, as Tom explained, very different payer dynamics, very different dynamics at the provider interaction. And so we feel very, very confident that ZYNQUISTA has the opportunity to be a very significant medicine for Lexicon. So thank you. Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:31:59Right. Congratulations on executing on that front as well as everything else. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:32:05Thanks so much. Operator00:32:10As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star then one to enter the question queue. The next question comes from Joe Pantginis with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:32:23Hey, everybody. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. First, I wanted to focus on the HCM program. It's good, the program's up and running, and I wanted to sort of talk about your views about the evolution of the space. So when you recently had your R&D day, you know, you positioned sotagliflozin, sort of in between, you know, the beta blockers, et cetera, on the front end and the CMIs on the back end. And your current study, you're gonna be also including for the CMIs, but I guess, how do you envision sotagliflozin fitting in as of this point, since you can also include the CMI, population? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:33:05Yeah, great question. Over to you again, Craig. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:33:09Yeah. So, you know, again, I think they have different mechanisms of action that are complementary, and since we are enrolling patients that are symptomatic, they're symptomatic regardless of their underlying therapy. So whether they're on nothing or a beta blocker, calcium channel blocker or CMI, or all combinations thereof, the inclusion criteria is those with a KCCQ score of less than 80. So we think that it provides the maximum flexibility to providers to manage the symptomatic relief in these patients, which is the key reason why patients with HCM present in general, and why they require treatment and the goal of treatment. And as a reminder, the other agents that are in development right now, particularly in non-obstructive disease, FDA has also allowed KCCQ as the primary endpoint, just like the endpoint, primary endpoint of the SONATA-HCM trial. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:10That's very helpful. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:34:11Thanks, Craig. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:12Thank you. And then, just curious about the potential timelines. I don't know if, you know, you're ready to think about that now since it's just started and disclosure. And the second, question, maybe for Mike. You know, you mentioned in the prepared comments and in the press release and in one of your answers, you know, talking about strategy and resources and strategic review. Obviously, you're not prepared now to show your hand, but wanted to sort of get a sense of, you know, what potential outcomes or, you know, goals are you looking for as part of that? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:34:44Yeah. No, fantastic. Craig, firstly, for the timeline of HCM. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:34:49Yeah, I think we've shared in general some of the timelines, previously. And again, as a reminder, we got this study up and running extraordinarily quickly, and we're really looking at having a final data towards the end of 2026 or early 2027. So I think that's the timeline that we're looking at. As a reminder, and as Jeff Wade showed in his slides, we really have a treatment duration that's quite, quite a bit shorter because the drug has already been proven in a number of heart failure-related indications. So we're looking at a 26-week treatment duration, not a 52-week treatment duration, which will accelerate timelines quite a bit. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:35:29Great. And, and maybe, Joe, if you allow me just to, pile on a little on to the first question, because, yes, while we foresee sotagliflozin potentially being a adjunct to all, indicated therapies for HCM, clearly there's a huge timeline gap, between initiation of basal therapies, CCBs or beta blockers, through to CMIs, just because of the complexity and the logistics that, the centers face in initiating those later therapies. And where we have a demonstrated safety profile and easy oral therapy, we see that it can be, form a place within that, position in the treatment paradigm, as the team has explained previously, but not exclusively so. And I think that gives us a unique position, actually, across the HCM. Now, I appreciate the question on the, strategic review. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:36:31We're well into it. I've started that with my team pretty much immediately when I started, and, and we're getting great insights as a, as a part of that. What, what are we looking to achieve? It's overall a very simple equation, and that is, we have a lot of opportunities, actually. More, more than what a company our size probably, you know, deserves or, or, or has. And yet, we need to be very thoughtful at how we deploy our resources across those opportunities to maximize them all, because they're all fantastic medicines and unique indications. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:37:15And so that's really the answer that we're searching for, is across the sort of current therapies, across our pipeline therapies, you know, where do we place our resources and effort to maximize the return for the organization? And that's where we're at. And you're right, I'm not going to deal my hand quite yet. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:37:39Absolutely. No. Thank you very much for all the details. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:37:43No, I appreciate it. Thanks. Operator00:37:47The next question comes from Roanna Ruiz with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:37:55Great. Afternoon, everyone. So maybe continuing with questions about the phase III SONATA trial in HCM. I was curious, what has the feedback been from trial sites and investigators so far as you're kicking it off? And could you remind us about what standards you plan to use to ensure tight execution of that trial as well? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:38:18Right. Another one for you, Craig. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:38:20Yeah, Roanna, it's a great question, and, you know, the feedback, I, I have to say, has been really positive. We've identified all of the sites that we need for the trial, in a number of countries around the world. I think you've seen, or can see on clinicaltrials.gov, that the trial activated around the end of June, and that we're operating in a, in a large number of countries. But the single largest contributor of sites will be the United States, and we really have a, a top-notch group of HCM centers around the country that are participating. And I think the things I really like about the trial are many of the topics that Jeff already covered, is that it's a therapy that is has very little friction to get patients on, can be used either alone or on top of existing therapies. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:39:11It's oral, once daily, has an ejection fraction down to 50%. You don't require all the echos. It has a pragmatic and straightforward, and relatively easy-to-administer endpoint of a KCCQ. You don't have all the CPET and all the other things. So the feedback on trial execution from a study site standpoint has been very positive because it's a whole lot easier to include patients on. I think there's also a general expectation that there's this sort of understanding that, yeah, I think the stroke's gonna work. I mean, the most common thing I hear from investigators is, "Yeah, it makes sense. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:39:49It's gonna work." Especially because many of them in obstructive disease, where they said, "Well, gee, you know, if you remove the obstruction, does that solve the problem?" But when they think about it, many of those patients, in a few years, are back with symptomatic disease again, and that's why we included both obstructive and non-obstructive, is the underlying genetic default and pathophysiology between the two is far more similar than dissimilar. So that's really where including both obstructive and non-obstructive on top of, or instead of other therapies, with an EF down to 50, KCCQ score as the primary endpoint, a relatively shorter duration of therapy with an agent and class that they're familiar, I think really all stack up in a very favorable way. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:40:40And Roanna, Roanna, you know, you talked about what controls or mechanisms do we have to, to see that it gets executed appropriately. I think, in fact, Craig and his team has shown their execution excellence in clinical trials with 9211. And have really been able to demonstrate in a, in a study that obviously was coming from, another study that had some issues. But here, we're on track with, with recruitment and, you know, that's powering along. And the timeline that Craig and his team met to get SONATA up and running was incredibly tight. And so the ability to recruit the number of sites that they have, ever since the protocol was finalized, is pretty amazing. So we are running with this very, very fast, and look forward to updating, on PROGRESS in the near future. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:41:38Got it. And a quick follow-up for me. I wanted to ask about the obesity program as well. Could you just elaborate a bit more what excites you about LX9851, and how this product profile could layer into the treatment paradigm in the future, assuming that there could be more products approved by then and more combo regimens? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:41:59Yeah, absolutely. So I'll turn it over to Alan in the first instance, to give a little bit of background on his baby. I mean, LX9851. So, Alan, why don't you take us through, and then a couple of others may lay some other opinions on top. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:42:16Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, obviously, the weight management field is incredibly exciting. Treatment is evolving. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:42:26But despite the success of the GLP-1 agonist, I think there's still some important questions. Cost and ease of use, reduction of lean body mass and, tolerability. And, you know, with LX9851, we think we're addressing all of those issues. You know, it's a small molecule, relatively easy to manufacture. It's an oral product. In our preclinical studies, in our knockout studies, we've seen a very nice reduction in fat only, with no change in lean body mass. And, tolerability, in our preclinical studies, so far, we've never seen any evidence of diarrhea, and that includes our knockout mice. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:13And if you think about it, they, the enzyme is inhibited 100% for their entire lives, and we haven't seen any diarrhea or anything like that in mice or any of the other preclinical species we've looked at. So we're very excited about this agent. It's a totally new mechanism that was discovered by our gene knockout work. To our knowledge, nobody else is working on this, and we think it really addresses a lot of the current issues in terms of treatment of weight management. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:49Maybe I'll ask- Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:43:50Got it. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:50Craig to just throw some comments from a clinical perspective, what he views with LX9851. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:58I think the other important point, and Alan touched on it, but just to put a finer point on it, this enzyme is expressed really in only two tissues. It's in the apical, part of the GI tract, particularly the ileum and in the liver. And I think all the effects that we're seeing, is really related to the weight management and this ileal brake concept, which is really driven by the gut. And then also, some of the data that Alan has previously shared, looking at favorable effects on lipid profile and, progression of plaque in, the coronary arteries of susceptible animals, and also in liver fat overall, I think are indicative and reflective of the narrow distribution of the expression of this enzyme. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:44:49So, you know, we're excited that it is a unique mechanism, but also one that's really tailored in the tissues where a lot of these disease processes are taking place. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:45:01Roanna, you can tell that we're excited by this asset because we all want to have a say, including myself. Just commercially, of course, we don't know where the obesity weight management space will be in the years to come. However, I think it's reasonably easy to predict that there'll be combination therapies beyond the incretins. And as you know, a lot of the new medicines that are being developed are incretin-based, different formulations, et cetera. And other somewhat similar metabolic conditions have shown us that new mechanisms of action are always appreciated as combination therapies, diabetes being an obvious choice here. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:45:48So we're pretty, pretty excited by it, and we're going to learn a lot more about the clinical development, a lot more about the biology over the coming years, and yeah, look forward to continuing to update you all. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:46:04Yep. Sounds good. Looking forward to more updates. Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:46:08Thanks. Operator00:46:11The next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz with Citi. Please go ahead. Analyst at Citi00:46:19Hi, guys. This is Ashiq Mubarack on for Yigal. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to ask a follow-up on the last questions related to the obesity program. It sounds like on the safety front, you believe that this program might be differentiated on diarrhea, but I'm curious if you have any sense of what maybe the nausea profile might look like. And on a similar question on safety, you know, I think one of the things we're wondering about is that the these obesity drugs seem to be it may be necessary to dose very chronically for long periods of time. Analyst at Citi00:46:52So I'm curious how long in terms of duration of therapy you've explored in these sort of preclinical models, especially on the safety side. Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:47:01Great. Yeah. Thanks, thanks very much. So, Alan, over to you for the question on nausea, and then duration of therapy, particularly from a safety perspective. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:47:13Sure. Thank you. So nausea, as you probably know, is. That's rather difficult to look at in preclinical studies. But what I would say is, you know, it's important to note that the inhibition of this enzyme doesn't completely reduce the absorption of free fatty acids. What it does is it delays absorption so that it can go further down, the fatty acids can go further down in the GI and then trigger, you know, what Craig mentioned, the ileal brake mechanism. So, you know, obviously to really look at nausea, you would have to do, you know, we'd have to look to the studies in phase I. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:47:56So far, I think most of our studies have been only about one-month duration, and we'll be doing the IND-enabling tox studies, which will also be a one-month duration in two species. But we do have plans on the preclinical side, exactly as it's suggested, to do studies of a much longer duration for three and six months, so. Analyst at Citi00:48:23Got it. Thank you. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:48:24Thanks, Alan. If you'd allow us also, Yigal, to elaborate a little bit more. There's also some evidence beyond our group that might suggest that nausea is not an issue. Craig, maybe you want to talk a little bit about that? Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:48:41Yeah, it's a great question, and the beautiful thing is we have the knockout mouse models and the tolerability and safety of those over the life of both the mice. But also there is more recently some limited human genetics data of knockdown and knockout variants of ACSL5, and those individuals seem to live a full and normal life without any issues. It's the only issues you see is very early in life there is a modification of diet that is needed for the first couple weeks, but after that, these children seem to grow on and develop normally into normal adults. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:49:23So, you know, I think we feel that both from the knockout side on with the animals and some of the human genetics that have been identified, that we have something that is probably gonna be able to be dosed for very, very long periods of time, comfortably. And again, as Alan said, we need to do all the long-term toxicology in the animals, and then the actual human clinical program with this particular inhibitor will need to be done. But I think we have a high degree of confidence based on what we know, that they can be dosed safely for long periods of time. Analyst at Citi00:50:02Got it. That's super helpful. And if I could ask one more quick one on the same topic. I'm just really thinking about how this mechanism—if this mechanism has applicability in areas outside of diabetes, but maybe in related areas. You know, we know the GLP-1s are in diabetes as well, but I—And I think more recently, some of the larger players have even talked about heart failure. I'm just wondering if this mechanism has any relevance there as well, for maybe obvious reasons. Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:50:29Yeah, the answer is yes, and I could turn to Alan, where we've actually shown data in a number of metabolic conditions, as you would assume, from reducing body weight and obesity. Some of it is incredibly exciting, and we're looking to present that data at medical conferences in the near future. So yeah, the short answer is yes, there's opportunity within lipidology, opportunity within other metabolic conditions as well. So looking very interesting mechanism here. Analyst at Citi00:51:08Got it. Thank you very much. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:51:13Thanks a lot. Operator00:51:15This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:51:23I'd just like to thank you all for attending today's Q2 earnings call. We're incredibly pleased with the PROGRESS that has been made to date. We've got a busy back half of the year and into 2025, but that provides us many, many opportunities that we're really looking forward to. So look forward to continued dialogue and we'll speak to you all soon. Operator00:51:51The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAlan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical SciencesCraig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical OfficerJeff WadePresident and COOLisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor RelationsMike ExtonCEO and DirectorTom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial OfficerAnalystsAndrew TsaiManaging Director at JefferiesJoe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to Lexicon Pharmaceuticals' second quarter 2024 financial results conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa DeFrancesco, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Strategy. Please go ahead. Lisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor Relations at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:00:45Thank you, Betsy. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Lexicon Pharmaceuticals second quarter 2024 financial results conference call. Joining me today are Dr. Mike Exton, Lexicon's new Chief Executive Officer and Director; Jeff Wade, President and Chief Operating Officer; Tom Garner, Senior Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer; Dr. Craig Granowitz, Senior Vice President and Chief Medical Officer; and Dr. Alan Main, Executive Vice President, Innovation and Chemical Sciences. Earlier this afternoon, Lexicon issued a press release announcing our financial results for the second quarter of 2024, which is available on our website at www.lexpharma.com and through our SEC filing. A webcast of this call, along with a slide presentation, is also available on our website. Lisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor Relations at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:01:30During this call, we will review the information provided in the release, provide a corporate update, and then use the remainder of our time to answer your questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that we will be making forward-looking statements relating to the safety, efficacy, clinical development, regulatory status, and therapeutic and commercial potential of INPEFA, ZYNQUISTA, LX9211, LX9851, and our other drug programs, as well as our business generally. These statements may include characterizations and projections relating to our commercial launch of INPEFA and heart failure, as well as the clinical development, regulatory status, and market opportunity for all of our drug programs. This call may also contain forward-looking statements relating to our growth and future operating results, discovery and development of our drug candidates, strategic alliances and intellectual property, as well as other matters that are not historical facts or information. Lisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor Relations at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:02:23Various risks that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward-looking statements. Let me refer you to our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and other SEC filings for detailed information describing such risks. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Exton. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:02:40Thanks, Lisa, and good day, everyone. Thanks for joining us on the call. Before we begin our discussion on Lexicon's results for the second quarter of 2024, let me start by saying that even in my first few weeks here as CEO, I can already see what a tremendous opportunity we have to bring innovative new therapies to patients, transform the treatment landscape of multiple therapeutic areas, and indeed transform Lexicon as a company. Now, moving on to our accomplishments for the year, which are indeed incredibly significant. First of all, our INPEFA business continued to grow modestly, and we saw progress across all areas of focus in this highly competitive market. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:03:24Importantly, we also resubmitted our NDA for ZYNQUISTA and have received a PDUFA goal date of December 20, 2024, setting us up for a potential commercial launch in this untapped market in early 2025. Furthermore, our phase III study for sotagliflozin in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy or HCM, is underway, with sites already open and beginning to enroll patients. In addition, our phase IIB study for LX9211 in diabetic peripheral neuropathic pain or DPNP, is on track to meet its timelines and its objectives, with top-line data anticipated second quarter of 2025. And finally, our exciting novel drug candidate, LX9851, an oral therapy for obesity and weight management, which we believe has the potential to become an innovative next-gen treatment in this large market, is progressing into preclinical development. These are all really solid opportunities for Lexicon, not only for next year, but well beyond. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:04:31So let's take a look at sotagliflozin in particular. We see a significant opportunity for value and growth with this compound across additional indications where sotagliflozin's unique mechanism of action has potential for beneficial effect. Lexicon has taken a purposeful approach in each one of the areas that we're exploring, and as a result, we're now preparing for the next near-term opportunity to commercially launch ZYNQUISTA for glycemic control in adults with type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease, while working towards a longer-term goal of expanding sotagliflozin into HCM. Now, in both of these areas, there are no SGLT therapies indicated, and we believe that the dual inhibition of SGLT1 and SGLT2 offers unique advantages. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:05:20These areas of unmet need are also highly concentrated in terms of treatment landscape, and they're very different from the competitive environment we're experiencing in heart failure, which currently is dominated by two larger players within a complex treatment and reimbursement environment. These are really very exciting near and long-term opportunities for Lexicon, and as we advance this pipeline of current and potential indications for sotagliflozin, we'll continue to weigh and consider where this unique innovation can have the most impact for patients. Now, as we then go and look holistically at our pipeline, we see similar pipeline and appeal opportunities for our other candidates as well. We have the ability to potentially address unmet medical needs within large markets, with development opportunities beyond their initial indications, whether pursued by Lexicon alone or with a strategic partner. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:06:13I'm truly thrilled to have joined Lexicon at this pivotal time, when we can focus on unlocking the significant value that these opportunities represent. With that overview, I'd like to now turn it over to Jeff Wade, President and COO, to discuss in detail the business and financial results. Over to you, Jeff. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:06:32Thank you, Mike. I'd like to begin with our INPEFA results. Net sales for the second quarter of 2024 were $1.6 million, and $2.7 million for the first half of 2024. We saw improvements in billed TRx and number of new prescribers, a modest expansion in access, and greater pull-through. This progress is due to the strong efforts of the team assembled by and aligned under Tom Garner since he joined the company last year. Achieving better market access remains the key to more significant growth for INPEFA and heart failure. Our goal has been and remains to achieve formulary access that is favorable for patients and equitable in light of INPEFA's value, and we are continuing to have discussions with payers driven by INPEFA's value and differentiating data. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:07:30Payer coverage improved slightly in the second quarter to 48%, although most of this coverage still requires step-through of competing therapies, an obstacle that we're focused on eliminating. Some payers have been taking longer to make coverage decisions due to uncertainties associated with the IRA, particularly around the prices to be announced by CMS on September first for the first group of products selected for negotiation, a group that includes three major heart failure medications. We expect improvements in coverage as these uncertainties are resolved and as we continue to demonstrate the value of INPEFA for patients, providers, and payers. It's important to note that SGLT use remains highly underpenetrated in heart failure, with significant room for growth, despite strong recommendations within the ACC treatment guidelines and consensus statements for both HFrEF and HFpEF. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:08:29Recommendations that are based in substantial part on INPEFA data, especially as it relates to initiation of therapy after a hospitalization. I'd now like to move to ZYNQUISTA, which has the opportunity to be the first-ever oral adjunct to insulin therapy indicated to improve glycemic control in adults with type 1 diabetes. Our approach with ZYNQUISTA is part of our overall strategy to expand the use of sotagliflozin beyond the competitive heart failure market into high-value opportunities where other SGLT inhibitors are not indicated, and in which we believe sotagliflozin's unique SGLT1 mechanism offers advantages. We've made a lot of progress this past quarter and in the time since. We resubmitted our NDA for ZYNQUISTA in June as an adjunct to insulin in adults with type 1 diabetes and CKD. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:09:25The FDA notified us in July that they considered our resubmission to be a complete response to their 2019 action letter, and they gave us a PDUFA goal date of December 20th, 2024. Based on our recent communications with FDA, it is likely we will have the opportunity for an advisory committee meeting. We look forward to the chance to present and discuss with the committee and key stakeholders, including, importantly, the patient community, the opportunity for ZYNQUISTA to address the significant unmet need for adjunctive glycemic control in this population. From our preliminary market research, we expect more than 400,000 adults in the U.S. with type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease could be eligible for treatment. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:10:15We've seen strong enthusiasm for an approved adjunct to insulin among the concentrated group of endocrinologists who manage treatment decisions in type 1 diabetes. From our payer research, we expect the market access environment to be considerably more favorable in type 1 diabetes than in heart failure. Our opportunity to be the first adjunct to insulin therapy in a market in which patients are highly engaged, and an indication that is not subject to extensive management, are all important factors for achieving favorable and timely market access. We believe that sotagliflozin's unique dual SGLT1 and SGLT2 mechanism offers advantages in addressing the challenges in people who have type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease. Both are relevant to type 1 diabetes, but the inhibition of SGLT1, the primary transporter for glucose uptake from the GI tract, offers particular benefits. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:11:19SGLT1 inhibition slows the uptake of glucose from meals, blunting postprandial glucose peaks and reducing glycemic variability. Unlike SGLT2 inhibition, the effects of SGLT1 inhibition do not decline with the reduced renal function that characterizes chronic kidney disease. The focus of our NDA resubmission on people with type 1 diabetes and chronic kidney disease aligns then both with a population in which a better glycemic control is more important, and also with sotagliflozin's unique mechanism of action. We believe that the greater benefit in this population weighs favorably against the increased risk of diabetic ketoacidosis, or DKA, that has been observed in clinical studies of all SGLT inhibitors, including sotagliflozin and type 1 diabetes, and that drove the complete response letter that our resubmission addresses. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:12:17We are pleased to say that we have initiated our pivotal phase III SONATA trial for HCM, with the opportunity to transform the standard of care in this area of high unmet need. We are leveraging outcomes data from our SCORED trial in heart failure, KCCQ data from SOLOIST, and other evidence providing a strong scientific rationale for the potential of sotagliflozin in this indication. This slide shows the design of SONATA-HCM, a pivotal phase III placebo-controlled study with a targeted enrollment of 500 patients with obstructive or non-obstructive HCM. We have sites up and running and have commenced patient recruitment in the study. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:13:05The primary endpoint of the study is change from baseline in KCCQ score, an endpoint that has been accepted by the FDA as the primary endpoint in this and other label-enabling HCM trials, and with which we have previously achieved success in our SOLOIST heart failure trial. Importantly, SONATA-HCM is studying a broader patient population than that studied in other ongoing trials in HCM, as we are allowing patients to be on cardiac myosin inhibitors, as well as allowing the use of beta blockers and calcium channel blockers. We are also enrolling patients with an ejection fraction down to 50%, which is lower than the studies of cardiac myosin inhibitors for which heart failure is a risk. Of course, sotagliflozin is already indicated as INPEFA to reduce heart failure, which is the major risk for these patients. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:14:00We have obtained feedback from FDA that success in this single study could support a broad label for sotagliflozin in HCM. Once again, an indication in an important area of unmet need that would be unique to sotagliflozin among SGLT inhibitors. Current estimates suggest that around 1 million patients in the United States today have HCM. Many are not diagnosed, in part because of the nonspecific nature of HCM symptoms, but diagnostic rates have been rising rapidly, a trend which is expected to continue over the next decade with an increased focus on the disease. Looking further into our pipeline, we have in LX9211, another opportunity to redefine the standard of care in an important area of need, in this case, in neuropathic pain. LX9211 has the potential to be the first new non-opioid treatment for neuropathic pain in over two decades. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:15:01Our PROGRESS phase IIB dose optimization study began enrolling towards the end of 2023, and is well on track for top-line data in the first half of 2025. It is important to note that this study, like our proof of concept studies, is placebo-controlled and allows patients to remain on stable dose standard of care therapy rather than removing all pain medications, consistent with how DPNP drugs are likely to be used in real-world practice. We learned a great deal in our phase II RELIEF-DPN study, which we are applying to this phase IIB PROGRESS study, with a key hypothesis being that we can improve tolerability by eliminating the 10x first-day loading dose in the prior study. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:15:50At this point, we feel quite confident about where we are in this study and are very much looking forward to the results next year. Approximately 20 million patients in the United States are suffering with some type of neuropathic pain, of which about 5 million have DPNP, with significant growth predicted in the future. We believe LX9211 could offer a real benefit to patients and to the clinical community who are looking for better options to improve outcomes for patients with DPNP. Our newest drug candidate to emerge from our Genome5000 platform is LX9851 in the exciting area of obesity and weight management. We believe that LX9851 has the potential, like our other assets, to be developed in additional indications and to be used as a combination therapy as well. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:16:45LX9851 is a small molecule inhibitor of the target acyl-CoA synthetase 5, or ACSL5, that we believe could be given orally for chronic weight management, with a target product profile that reduces body fat, spares lean body mass, and favorably affects overall metabolic profile. In preclinical studies, it has reduced cholesterol and triglycerides, improved insulin sensitivity, and demonstrated potential in additional related indications such as metabolic syndrome and MASH. The obesity and weight management space is an area of tremendous interest, and we're very excited about the potential for an oral once-daily therapy with these mechanisms that complement and enhance current therapies. We've moved into IND-enabling studies, and we are very focused on submitting data to upcoming medical meetings. Now we will review some of the key elements of our second quarter of 2024 financial results. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:17:49You can find more financial details in the press release that we issued earlier today and in our 10-Q that will be filed shortly with the SEC. We ended the quarter with $310 million in cash and investments. As indicated in our press release this afternoon, we had $1.6 million in revenues in the second quarter of 2024, almost all from net sales of INPEFA and had minimal revenues for the same period in 2023. R&D expenses for the second quarter of 2024 increased to $17.6 million from $14.5 million for the corresponding period in 2023, primarily due to higher external R&D expenses as our development programs PROGRESS. Jeff WadePresident and COO at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:18:38SG&A expenses for the second quarter of 2024 increased to $39.2 million from $30 million for the corresponding period in 2023, reflecting the investment in the commercial launch of INPEFA. In total, net loss for the second quarter of 2024 was $53.4 million, or $0.17 per share, as compared to a net loss of $44.9 million, or $0.22 per share, in the corresponding period in 2023. For the second quarters of 2024 and 2023, net loss included non-cash stock-based compensation expense of $4.9 million and $3.8 million, respectively. Now I'll turn it back over to Mike for some closing remarks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:19:26Yeah, thanks, Jeff. Look, in summary, the next 18 months for Lexicon includes several important planned catalysts. First of all, we've got the potential to launch ZYNQUISTA in the early part of next year, which for us is an exclusive opportunity and importantly, a much needed additional treatment option for the type 1 diabetes community. Secondly, we've initiated our SONATA phase III study of sotagliflozin in HCM, and that presents a new and promising area of focus. Thirdly, our phase IIb study of LX9211 in DPNP is on track, with top line data in Q2 of next year. And then finally, we've commenced IND enabling studies of LX9851 in the rapidly evolving area of obesity and weight management, where current treatments are primed for next-gen and combination therapies. So each of these opportunities have a lot in common. They're all in large markets. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:20:25There are significant areas of unmet need, where there's wide space with the true need for new innovative therapies. And which within each of these areas, we have the potential to be the first or only truly exclusive in our approach, unlike what we're experiencing in heart failure currently. And each of these opportunities is supported by thoughtful clinical development, that is informed by discussions with the FDA and designed to incorporate real-world elements of how the drug would actually be used in the market. So as we enter the back half of the year, we're currently evaluating our strategy and our resourcing in order to ensure that we are optimized for success across these programs. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:21:06We believe that we'll have the opportunity over the next 18 months to significantly improve treatment paradigms, transform Lexicon as a company, and create significant value for all of our stakeholders, most importantly, including the patients that we serve. So with that, I'd like to turn it back to the operator to open up the Q&A. Operator00:21:28We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Yasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper Sandler00:22:06Great. Thank you so much, team, for all the updates. A few questions on ZYNQUISTA. Did you mention. I think it sounded like in the prepared remarks that you guys were preparing for an AdCom. I guess if you could maybe talk about whether an AdCom is expected, when it could occur, what could be possible topics? That's sort of like big bucket one, and then bucket two is if you could talk about commercially, how you're thinking about, sort of, do you need to add more salespeople? Is there any, you know, as you will be focused on patients that are under the care of endocrinologists, what would the launch trajectory look like in a more endocrinology focused setting versus a cardiovascular focus? Yasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper Sandler00:22:54Would appreciate any color around that as well, and I'll jump back into the queue for any other questions. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:23:01Okay. Thanks a lot, Yasmeen. I heard two big buckets. Not sure if you had a third, but let me, let me pass the first one to Craig for the AdCom and what we're thinking of timing and expectations, et cetera. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:23:16Yeah, thank you for the question, Yas. And, you know, at this point, we expect that we will get an AdCom from the FDA, and it really would focus on the risk-benefit of treatment. As I think we've shared at prior calls and at other meetings and communications, you know, we've really worked hard to find a population where the risk-benefit is more favorable. We currently are committed, and the FDA has been committed to our target action date of December 20th of this year. I think I'll just take a moment on the risk-benefit, in that, you know, we believe that this group of patients with chronic kidney disease are at much higher rate of disease progression to end-stage disease across a range of underlying diseases such as end-stage kidney disease, heart failure, stroke, myocardial infarction, severe retinopathy, and other diseases. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:24:12So glycemia is actually a marker for that, and the indication we're seeking, as a reminder, is a glycemic control indication with that group of patients with underlying chronic kidney disease. So we're not seeking an indication right now for preventing necessarily progression of the chronic kidney disease, but that is a marker of patients that are gonna have much more rapidly progressive disease across a range of complications of type 1 diabetes. So I think in that regard, you know, we've gotten great feedback from the patient and physician community, and on the need for this therapy. I think in prior communications from FDA, some which publicly, that they acknowledge that insulin alone is not enough in type 1 diabetes patients. They've acknowledged that those that don't have tight glycemic control are at risk of progression of more rapidly progressive disease. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:25:07You know, we look forward to the opportunity if there is an AdCom that we'll be able to share all of this with both the FDA and the medical community. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:25:17Yeah, great. Thanks, Craig. We feel very confident going into that at AdCom, and look forward to presenting all of our and independent data at that time. So, I'll throw it, the second question, the second big bucket to, to Tom, the Chief Commercial Officer, which really focusing on the commercial footprint for ZYNQUISTA and particularly around field force. Tom, if you could take that question? Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:25:42Absolutely. Yep. Thanks, Mike, and thanks for the question, yeah. So, I think as you're well aware, we've spent significant amounts of time and effort really building a highly capable commercial infrastructure, and that crosses field sales, access, and going as deep as kind of patient scope programs as well. I've taken some time since I joined the company as well, just to make sure that we're focusing all of our efforts in the right place with eyes on INPEFA, but kind of with knowing that ZYNQUISTA is probably gonna be coming down the track at some point in the future as well. I think as you're very well aware, and Jeff mentioned this, you know, this is gonna be a somewhat more concentrated marketplace than what we see for heart failure. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:26:27So we estimate that there's gonna be between 3,000 to 4,000 endocrinologists who treat the lion's share of these patients. So given that existing infrastructure that we have in terms of commercial, and as you know, we have around 150 representatives for INPEFA at the moment. Our plan is that we're gonna try and leverage that team as far as possible, to make sure that we can kind of really deliver on the value that we know we can unlock with ZYNQUISTA very quickly, just given the unmet needs that I think are very clear here. While at the same time, making sure that, you know, for INPEFA as well, we continue to support where needed as well. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:27:07Thanks, Tom. Yasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper Sandler00:27:07Thank you so much. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:27:10Thanks. Operator00:27:12The next question comes from Andrew Tsai with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:27:18Hey, thanks. Appreciate you taking my questions. Maybe, just on the AdCom, actually, going back to the AdCom, would it be safe to presume that you're preparing for hypothetical voting decisions or questions around the risk-benefit and as well as a risk mitigation strategy of ZYNQUISTA, or is there anything else you're specifically preparing for? And then secondly, do you think then, based on the comments, so far today, that ZYNQUISTA's launch could be stronger than what you're seeing with INPEFA right now? Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:27:56Great. Same order. I'll throw to you first with Craig, then Tom. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:28:01Great. Thank you, Andrew. Again, we really feel strongly that based on all of the discussions that we've had with the FDA over this past number of months, that they really are gonna focus on the risk benefit. You know, I think what we've talked about is that in this subgroup, which has much higher risk of progression to the complications of diabetes, that tight glycemic control is even more important. And the data has shown convincingly, both overall in the entire inTandem program, nearly 3,000 patients, but also in that renal subgroup, that you have similar and highly significant control of glycemia, whether on baseline insulin or optimized insulin therapy, and that that tight glycemic control will be associated with less progressive disease. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:28:49We've also shown and published that the risk of diabetic ketoacidosis seems to be similar in that subgroup of patients with underlying CKD than in the overall population. We feel quite strongly that the primary questions that FDA will ask is about overall risk-benefit. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:29:08Great. Thanks, Craig. And, Tom, to you. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:29:13Absolutely. Thanks for the question, Andrew. So as we think about ZYNQUISTA for T1D versus INPEFA for heart failure, I mean, the first thing I would say is that this is gonna be a very, very different space to what we encountered with heart failure. You know, as, as Mike mentioned during his remarks, this is gonna be a space that's, that's basically untapped. We know there is some small amount of off, off-label usage of SGLTs at the moment, but largely speaking, this is not a market that has really been brought to the fore. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:29:46So we believe that given the unmet need, given the fact that we know we have a group of endocrinologists who have been kind of at the starting line of being wanting to be able to use these products for quite some time, there is clearly, you know, untapped potential there that we think we're gonna be able to capture very quickly. The other thing that I would point out to you that is gonna be markedly different from heart failure is just the payer dynamics. The challenge that we faced with INPEFA is the fact that heart failure is a tightly managed category, and we are up against, you know, some very big competitors who have some very significant rebate dollars that they're paying. Tom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:30:25We're continuing to push very hard, but as we've started the same dialogue with those payers as it relates to ZYNQUISTA, I can tell you that the feedback that we're already getting on the profile, on the potential utilization management, and how they view just the general management of this category, in particular for T1D patients, is gonna look and feel very, very different to what we face with heart failure. So I think, yes, is the answer to your question. We do see that this will potentially be a space where we can make a very meaningful impact pretty quickly, just given the concentrated market that we're going into. Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:31:03Yeah. Makes sense. Thank you. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:31:04Thanks, Tom, and- Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:31:05Yeah. Okay. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:31:07Just if you'll allow me, Andrew, to just add to that, in fact, that's how we see the rest of the pipeline. I think, you know, as we go through this strategic review, I think we see that each of our assets offers this opportunity for a pipeline in a pill, which is multiple indications. And those indications are in spaces where, like ZYNQUISTA, we will be the first and only player, either as an adjunct or standalone therapy. And as you're aware, that provides, as Tom explained, very different payer dynamics, very different dynamics at the provider interaction. And so we feel very, very confident that ZYNQUISTA has the opportunity to be a very significant medicine for Lexicon. So thank you. Andrew TsaiManaging Director at Jefferies00:31:59Right. Congratulations on executing on that front as well as everything else. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:32:05Thanks so much. Operator00:32:10As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star then one to enter the question queue. The next question comes from Joe Pantginis with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:32:23Hey, everybody. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. First, I wanted to focus on the HCM program. It's good, the program's up and running, and I wanted to sort of talk about your views about the evolution of the space. So when you recently had your R&D day, you know, you positioned sotagliflozin, sort of in between, you know, the beta blockers, et cetera, on the front end and the CMIs on the back end. And your current study, you're gonna be also including for the CMIs, but I guess, how do you envision sotagliflozin fitting in as of this point, since you can also include the CMI, population? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:33:05Yeah, great question. Over to you again, Craig. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:33:09Yeah. So, you know, again, I think they have different mechanisms of action that are complementary, and since we are enrolling patients that are symptomatic, they're symptomatic regardless of their underlying therapy. So whether they're on nothing or a beta blocker, calcium channel blocker or CMI, or all combinations thereof, the inclusion criteria is those with a KCCQ score of less than 80. So we think that it provides the maximum flexibility to providers to manage the symptomatic relief in these patients, which is the key reason why patients with HCM present in general, and why they require treatment and the goal of treatment. And as a reminder, the other agents that are in development right now, particularly in non-obstructive disease, FDA has also allowed KCCQ as the primary endpoint, just like the endpoint, primary endpoint of the SONATA-HCM trial. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:10That's very helpful. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:34:11Thanks, Craig. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:34:12Thank you. And then, just curious about the potential timelines. I don't know if, you know, you're ready to think about that now since it's just started and disclosure. And the second, question, maybe for Mike. You know, you mentioned in the prepared comments and in the press release and in one of your answers, you know, talking about strategy and resources and strategic review. Obviously, you're not prepared now to show your hand, but wanted to sort of get a sense of, you know, what potential outcomes or, you know, goals are you looking for as part of that? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:34:44Yeah. No, fantastic. Craig, firstly, for the timeline of HCM. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:34:49Yeah, I think we've shared in general some of the timelines, previously. And again, as a reminder, we got this study up and running extraordinarily quickly, and we're really looking at having a final data towards the end of 2026 or early 2027. So I think that's the timeline that we're looking at. As a reminder, and as Jeff Wade showed in his slides, we really have a treatment duration that's quite, quite a bit shorter because the drug has already been proven in a number of heart failure-related indications. So we're looking at a 26-week treatment duration, not a 52-week treatment duration, which will accelerate timelines quite a bit. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:35:29Great. And, and maybe, Joe, if you allow me just to, pile on a little on to the first question, because, yes, while we foresee sotagliflozin potentially being a adjunct to all, indicated therapies for HCM, clearly there's a huge timeline gap, between initiation of basal therapies, CCBs or beta blockers, through to CMIs, just because of the complexity and the logistics that, the centers face in initiating those later therapies. And where we have a demonstrated safety profile and easy oral therapy, we see that it can be, form a place within that, position in the treatment paradigm, as the team has explained previously, but not exclusively so. And I think that gives us a unique position, actually, across the HCM. Now, I appreciate the question on the, strategic review. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:36:31We're well into it. I've started that with my team pretty much immediately when I started, and, and we're getting great insights as a, as a part of that. What, what are we looking to achieve? It's overall a very simple equation, and that is, we have a lot of opportunities, actually. More, more than what a company our size probably, you know, deserves or, or, or has. And yet, we need to be very thoughtful at how we deploy our resources across those opportunities to maximize them all, because they're all fantastic medicines and unique indications. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:37:15And so that's really the answer that we're searching for, is across the sort of current therapies, across our pipeline therapies, you know, where do we place our resources and effort to maximize the return for the organization? And that's where we're at. And you're right, I'm not going to deal my hand quite yet. Joe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright00:37:39Absolutely. No. Thank you very much for all the details. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:37:43No, I appreciate it. Thanks. Operator00:37:47The next question comes from Roanna Ruiz with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:37:55Great. Afternoon, everyone. So maybe continuing with questions about the phase III SONATA trial in HCM. I was curious, what has the feedback been from trial sites and investigators so far as you're kicking it off? And could you remind us about what standards you plan to use to ensure tight execution of that trial as well? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:38:18Right. Another one for you, Craig. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:38:20Yeah, Roanna, it's a great question, and, you know, the feedback, I, I have to say, has been really positive. We've identified all of the sites that we need for the trial, in a number of countries around the world. I think you've seen, or can see on clinicaltrials.gov, that the trial activated around the end of June, and that we're operating in a, in a large number of countries. But the single largest contributor of sites will be the United States, and we really have a, a top-notch group of HCM centers around the country that are participating. And I think the things I really like about the trial are many of the topics that Jeff already covered, is that it's a therapy that is has very little friction to get patients on, can be used either alone or on top of existing therapies. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:39:11It's oral, once daily, has an ejection fraction down to 50%. You don't require all the echos. It has a pragmatic and straightforward, and relatively easy-to-administer endpoint of a KCCQ. You don't have all the CPET and all the other things. So the feedback on trial execution from a study site standpoint has been very positive because it's a whole lot easier to include patients on. I think there's also a general expectation that there's this sort of understanding that, yeah, I think the stroke's gonna work. I mean, the most common thing I hear from investigators is, "Yeah, it makes sense. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:39:49It's gonna work." Especially because many of them in obstructive disease, where they said, "Well, gee, you know, if you remove the obstruction, does that solve the problem?" But when they think about it, many of those patients, in a few years, are back with symptomatic disease again, and that's why we included both obstructive and non-obstructive, is the underlying genetic default and pathophysiology between the two is far more similar than dissimilar. So that's really where including both obstructive and non-obstructive on top of, or instead of other therapies, with an EF down to 50, KCCQ score as the primary endpoint, a relatively shorter duration of therapy with an agent and class that they're familiar, I think really all stack up in a very favorable way. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:40:40And Roanna, Roanna, you know, you talked about what controls or mechanisms do we have to, to see that it gets executed appropriately. I think, in fact, Craig and his team has shown their execution excellence in clinical trials with 9211. And have really been able to demonstrate in a, in a study that obviously was coming from, another study that had some issues. But here, we're on track with, with recruitment and, you know, that's powering along. And the timeline that Craig and his team met to get SONATA up and running was incredibly tight. And so the ability to recruit the number of sites that they have, ever since the protocol was finalized, is pretty amazing. So we are running with this very, very fast, and look forward to updating, on PROGRESS in the near future. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:41:38Got it. And a quick follow-up for me. I wanted to ask about the obesity program as well. Could you just elaborate a bit more what excites you about LX9851, and how this product profile could layer into the treatment paradigm in the future, assuming that there could be more products approved by then and more combo regimens? Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:41:59Yeah, absolutely. So I'll turn it over to Alan in the first instance, to give a little bit of background on his baby. I mean, LX9851. So, Alan, why don't you take us through, and then a couple of others may lay some other opinions on top. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:42:16Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, obviously, the weight management field is incredibly exciting. Treatment is evolving. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:42:26But despite the success of the GLP-1 agonist, I think there's still some important questions. Cost and ease of use, reduction of lean body mass and, tolerability. And, you know, with LX9851, we think we're addressing all of those issues. You know, it's a small molecule, relatively easy to manufacture. It's an oral product. In our preclinical studies, in our knockout studies, we've seen a very nice reduction in fat only, with no change in lean body mass. And, tolerability, in our preclinical studies, so far, we've never seen any evidence of diarrhea, and that includes our knockout mice. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:13And if you think about it, they, the enzyme is inhibited 100% for their entire lives, and we haven't seen any diarrhea or anything like that in mice or any of the other preclinical species we've looked at. So we're very excited about this agent. It's a totally new mechanism that was discovered by our gene knockout work. To our knowledge, nobody else is working on this, and we think it really addresses a lot of the current issues in terms of treatment of weight management. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:49Maybe I'll ask- Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:43:50Got it. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:50Craig to just throw some comments from a clinical perspective, what he views with LX9851. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:43:58I think the other important point, and Alan touched on it, but just to put a finer point on it, this enzyme is expressed really in only two tissues. It's in the apical, part of the GI tract, particularly the ileum and in the liver. And I think all the effects that we're seeing, is really related to the weight management and this ileal brake concept, which is really driven by the gut. And then also, some of the data that Alan has previously shared, looking at favorable effects on lipid profile and, progression of plaque in, the coronary arteries of susceptible animals, and also in liver fat overall, I think are indicative and reflective of the narrow distribution of the expression of this enzyme. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:44:49So, you know, we're excited that it is a unique mechanism, but also one that's really tailored in the tissues where a lot of these disease processes are taking place. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:45:01Roanna, you can tell that we're excited by this asset because we all want to have a say, including myself. Just commercially, of course, we don't know where the obesity weight management space will be in the years to come. However, I think it's reasonably easy to predict that there'll be combination therapies beyond the incretins. And as you know, a lot of the new medicines that are being developed are incretin-based, different formulations, et cetera. And other somewhat similar metabolic conditions have shown us that new mechanisms of action are always appreciated as combination therapies, diabetes being an obvious choice here. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:45:48So we're pretty, pretty excited by it, and we're going to learn a lot more about the clinical development, a lot more about the biology over the coming years, and yeah, look forward to continuing to update you all. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:46:04Yep. Sounds good. Looking forward to more updates. Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:46:08Thanks. Operator00:46:11The next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz with Citi. Please go ahead. Analyst at Citi00:46:19Hi, guys. This is Ashiq Mubarack on for Yigal. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to ask a follow-up on the last questions related to the obesity program. It sounds like on the safety front, you believe that this program might be differentiated on diarrhea, but I'm curious if you have any sense of what maybe the nausea profile might look like. And on a similar question on safety, you know, I think one of the things we're wondering about is that the these obesity drugs seem to be it may be necessary to dose very chronically for long periods of time. Analyst at Citi00:46:52So I'm curious how long in terms of duration of therapy you've explored in these sort of preclinical models, especially on the safety side. Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:47:01Great. Yeah. Thanks, thanks very much. So, Alan, over to you for the question on nausea, and then duration of therapy, particularly from a safety perspective. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:47:13Sure. Thank you. So nausea, as you probably know, is. That's rather difficult to look at in preclinical studies. But what I would say is, you know, it's important to note that the inhibition of this enzyme doesn't completely reduce the absorption of free fatty acids. What it does is it delays absorption so that it can go further down, the fatty acids can go further down in the GI and then trigger, you know, what Craig mentioned, the ileal brake mechanism. So, you know, obviously to really look at nausea, you would have to do, you know, we'd have to look to the studies in phase I. Alan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical Sciences at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:47:56So far, I think most of our studies have been only about one-month duration, and we'll be doing the IND-enabling tox studies, which will also be a one-month duration in two species. But we do have plans on the preclinical side, exactly as it's suggested, to do studies of a much longer duration for three and six months, so. Analyst at Citi00:48:23Got it. Thank you. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:48:24Thanks, Alan. If you'd allow us also, Yigal, to elaborate a little bit more. There's also some evidence beyond our group that might suggest that nausea is not an issue. Craig, maybe you want to talk a little bit about that? Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:48:41Yeah, it's a great question, and the beautiful thing is we have the knockout mouse models and the tolerability and safety of those over the life of both the mice. But also there is more recently some limited human genetics data of knockdown and knockout variants of ACSL5, and those individuals seem to live a full and normal life without any issues. It's the only issues you see is very early in life there is a modification of diet that is needed for the first couple weeks, but after that, these children seem to grow on and develop normally into normal adults. Craig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical Officer at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:49:23So, you know, I think we feel that both from the knockout side on with the animals and some of the human genetics that have been identified, that we have something that is probably gonna be able to be dosed for very, very long periods of time, comfortably. And again, as Alan said, we need to do all the long-term toxicology in the animals, and then the actual human clinical program with this particular inhibitor will need to be done. But I think we have a high degree of confidence based on what we know, that they can be dosed safely for long periods of time. Analyst at Citi00:50:02Got it. That's super helpful. And if I could ask one more quick one on the same topic. I'm just really thinking about how this mechanism—if this mechanism has applicability in areas outside of diabetes, but maybe in related areas. You know, we know the GLP-1s are in diabetes as well, but I—And I think more recently, some of the larger players have even talked about heart failure. I'm just wondering if this mechanism has any relevance there as well, for maybe obvious reasons. Thanks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:50:29Yeah, the answer is yes, and I could turn to Alan, where we've actually shown data in a number of metabolic conditions, as you would assume, from reducing body weight and obesity. Some of it is incredibly exciting, and we're looking to present that data at medical conferences in the near future. So yeah, the short answer is yes, there's opportunity within lipidology, opportunity within other metabolic conditions as well. So looking very interesting mechanism here. Analyst at Citi00:51:08Got it. Thank you very much. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:51:13Thanks a lot. Operator00:51:15This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Mike ExtonCEO and Director at Lexicon Pharmaceuticals00:51:23I'd just like to thank you all for attending today's Q2 earnings call. We're incredibly pleased with the PROGRESS that has been made to date. We've got a busy back half of the year and into 2025, but that provides us many, many opportunities that we're really looking forward to. So look forward to continued dialogue and we'll speak to you all soon. Operator00:51:51The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAlan MainEVP of Innovation and Chemical SciencesCraig GranowitzSVP and Chief Medical OfficerJeff WadePresident and COOLisa DeFrancescoHead of Investor RelationsMike ExtonCEO and DirectorTom GarnerSVP and Chief Commercial OfficerAnalystsAndrew TsaiManaging Director at JefferiesJoe PantginisManaging Director Equity Research at H.C. WainwrightRoanna RuizSenior Managing Director at Leerink PartnersYasmeen RahimiManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst Biotechnology at Piper SandlerAnalyst at CitiPowered by