NASDAQ:ISPO Inspirato Q2 2024 Earnings Report $3.43 0.00 (0.00%) Closing price 05/5/2025 03:53 PM EasternExtended Trading$3.44 +0.01 (+0.44%) As of 05/5/2025 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History Inspirato EPS ResultsActual EPS-$2.25Consensus EPS -$2.05Beat/MissMissed by -$0.20One Year Ago EPSN/AInspirato Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$67.38 millionExpected Revenue$69.94 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.56 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AInspirato Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/13/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 14, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsInspirato's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Inspirato Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 14, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Inspirato Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:27I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Kyle Swirk, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:33Thank you, and good morning. Speaker 200:00:35On today's call, we have Chairman Speaker 100:00:36and CEO, Payam Zimani President, Dave Callery and CFO, Robert Katten. Yesterday afternoon, we issued our press release announcing our Q2 2024 results and the closing of our previously announced share purchase agreement and CEO's shareholders. Speaker 300:00:55Before we move Speaker 100:00:57into the comments, our expectations are based on assumptions and actual results could differ materially. In addition, during the call, we will discuss non GAAP measures, which are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these measures to directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our new Chairman and CEO, Payam Samani. Speaker 400:01:27Thank you, Kyle, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. I'm incredibly excited for today's call as we welcome a new era at Inspirada, one filled with promising opportunities. To help us accomplish these goals and further solidify our footing, I'm personally injecting $10,000,000 of new capital into the company in Q3. In addition to the investment, I'm also personally guaranteeing an additional $6,600,000 as part of a lease termination agreement. Important to note that when I say personally, it means through my entity, One Planet Group. Speaker 400:02:00These investments not only strengthen our liquidity position and improve our financial outlook, but also demonstrate to our current and prospective members that our business is in a stronger position than it was just a few days ago. We are now better equipped to achieve profitability while remaining committed to delivering exceptional service and world class experiences for all of our members and their loved ones. Having said that, this transition has also brought about a number of difficult decisions, namely our plan to reduce headcount by 15%. While losing team members is not an action I take lightly, it was a necessary action given the current size of the business. Upon reviewing its broader business plan and projections, it became clear that our current cost structure required further actions in order to make this business sustainable. Speaker 400:02:55To better support these goals and fully demonstrate my alignment with our shareholders, I have elected to a $1 to take a $1 salary in the form of cash as CEO and Chairman. And no cash bonus for the next year and will instead perform my duties solely compensated in shares, much of it performance based. Finally, in my role as Chairman, I will be naming 3 new directors to bring valuable experience, fresh perspective and diversity of thought to the Insprado Boardroom as we look to reshape our future. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our President, David Callery, to review some of the recent initiatives the company has undertaken. Speaker 500:03:36Thank you, Paya. Before reviewing the Inspirado platform and the successful repositioning we've done over the last few quarters, I want to express how truly excited I am to begin a new chapter at Inspirado. Payam has an illustrious career and has created tremendous value for investors and shareholders at each stop along the way. Prior to my time at Inspirado, I had the pleasure of working with him in the past and can personally attest to his work ethic, his vision and his cultural fit for both Inspirado and the members we serve. Payam is an entrepreneur, an investor and the founder of One Planet Group, a firm with a mission to support strong business ideas while building an ethos that helps improve society and give back to communities, which is also very closely aligned with our mission of inspiring lasting memories and relationships by enriching the way our members experience the world. Speaker 500:04:35Over the past year, we've made some incredible progress in improving our offerings that have laid the foundation for this transformation. First, we've returned to our roots as a luxury travel club and moved away from a high churn transaction based subscription model. Since the beginning of 2023, more than 75% of our new sales for Inspirato Club, which is the foundation of the company, have been for 2 years or more. 2nd, we reimagined Inspirado Pass to serve as the perfect complementary offering to club and to cater to a frequent and highly flexible traveler. Next, in June, we just started to introduce Inspirado by Invited. Speaker 500:05:23Invited offers 10 years of Inspirado club access combined with a 2 year booking window and the ability to prepay fixed nightly rates on an annual basis. While it's still very early, we've seen interest and excitement for this new offering. Since our limited introduction of this product in June, we've already generated over $4,000,000 in new cash flow. And finally, our strategic partner with Capital One, where we're reaching the tail end of the tech and system integration work and plan to be able to take reservations by the Q4. We expect this partnership to increase Inspirato's brand recognition, serve as a demand driver for paid nights, generate new membership sales and ultimately be a key contributor to Inspirato's future growth. Speaker 500:06:14In summary, our team has put in tremendous amount of work to set the stage for what we feel will be a true inflection point for the company. And I'm very confident that in the next few years of Inspirado will be our most successful under Payam's watchful eye and steady leadership. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Robert to discuss the financials for the quarter. Robert? Speaker 200:06:38Thanks, David. Before reviewing our Q2 results, I want to highlight what I feel is currently our most important financial metric, liquidity. Following the $10,000,000 capital infusion, 2nd quarter pro form a liquidity, including cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash was $39,000,000 compared to $33,000,000 at the end of the Q1. We've also made significant progress in our cash burn, which has improved by $23,000,000 or 64 percent in the first half of this year compared to the first half of twenty twenty three. In addition to the $10,000,000 capital injection in Q3 to bolster our liquidity, we have taken the following actions. Speaker 200:07:171st, we implemented additional cost cutting measures that we expect to result in approximately $25,000,000 of annualized savings. As Pia mentioned, this includes a 15% reduction in force implemented earlier this week. It's important to note these cuts were not made to member facing roles as we are capturing efficiencies without sacrificing our member experience. 2nd, we entered into a termination agreement of previously impaired underperforming leases. As part of this agreement, we will decrease our total committed future minimum lease payments by $57,000,000 Total cash savings from the termination of this agreement will be approximately $50,000,000 from 2025 through 2,031 after the lease termination payment of 6,600,000 from August 2024 through March 2025. Speaker 200:08:06In terms of our quarterly results, in the Q2, we generated total revenue of $67,000,000 a 20% decrease year over year. Much of the decrease was planned for and can be attributed to lower subscription revenue due to a 35% decrease in the number of past members and a 10% decrease in club members. In total, we exited the 2nd quarter with approximately 12,000 members and nearly 12,700 subscriptions, approximately 85% of which were club subscriptions. From a travel revenue perspective, there are a number of factors that contributed to the 19% year over year decrease. First, we saw a 12% decrease in our residents revenue, primarily due to ADRs of $15.35 coming in below quarters. Speaker 200:08:51While lowering our ADRs from previous highs is a part of a strategy to deliver value to members, we did not see an associated uptick in the number of paid nights delivered that we would have hoped for given the reduced rates. 2nd, hotel revenue decreased primarily from fewer nights delivered, not quite offsetting a modest increase in ADRs. Occupancy in our leased hotel rooms increased to 79% in the 2nd quarter from 76% last year as we continue to risk adjust our portfolio by removing underperforming leased hotels. Cost of revenue for the quarter was approximately $51,000,000 a 21% improvement from the prior year. Similar to the Q1, reduced lease expenses as well as their associated fixed costs were the single biggest driver in the year over year improvement. Speaker 200:09:38Given the seasonality of travel revenue, gross margins in the Q2 typically reflect the low watermark for the year. We believe that to be the case in 2024 as well as our 24% gross margin for the quarter compares favorably to 2023, but is a bit below our expectations and reflects the impact of a declining subscription revenue base. Our cash operating expenses in Q2 were approximately $27,000,000 compared to approximately $32,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. As Payam and David alluded to, we are planning for a further improvement in future operating expenses as a result of our reduced headcount and other cost reduction activities. We'll see modest cost savings in the 3rd quarter given severance payments and acceleration in cost savings thereafter. Speaker 200:10:28In total, we generated an adjusted EBITDA loss of $9,100,000 in the 2nd quarter compared to a loss of $11,700,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Year to date, our adjusted EBITDA loss of approximately 5,000,000 compares favorably to a loss of approximately $15,000,000 in 2023. In fact, we have been seeing consistent year over year improvements in our quarterly EBITDA figures for 3 consecutive quarters. This is despite revenue decreasing over the same time span. I call this out to emphasize that improvements we've made from both a product profitability and efficiency standpoint have been paying off. Speaker 200:11:04While much of our declines in revenue are planned, driven by a focus on product profitability, revenue trends are not where we want them to be. However, we are beginning to see some improvements in underlying KPIs in our different product offerings related to our product positioning work we embarked on earlier in 2024. While it's still early, we remain optimistic these are the right choices for the business. Looking at costs, our gross margins are up through the first half of the year, driven by the portfolio optimizations actions taken in the 1st part of the year and we've driven operating efficiencies not only within gross margin but also in the operating expenses. These changes are reflected in our improved EBITDA and EBITDA margins and significantly improved cash burn versus 2023. Speaker 200:11:48Finally, due to the change in leadership and the renewed cost reduction efforts we are undertaking, we are removing our 2024 guidance and we'll look to update you on our future on our plans in the future. Before turning the call over to the operator for Q and A, I'd like to turn it back to Payam for some closing remarks. Speaker 400:12:06Thank you, Robert. As many of you will soon find, I aim to be transparent and direct when communicating and these results are simply disappointing. While there certainly have been improvements in recent quarters, Insprado is not where I want it to be or where it should be as an organization. The past several years have been riddled with far too many challenges and frankly, poor failures. That said, I'm incredibly excited about the future and confident that we are on the cusp of great things. Speaker 400:12:38When I evaluate businesses, there are 3 things that matter to me the most: the culture of the company, profits and growth. But profits is by far more important than growth. It's quite simple. I firmly believe that you cannot cut your way to prosperity and it's time to once again invest in our growth. But again, first comes profitability. Speaker 400:13:03As we approach this next chapter, my promise is that we will continue to innovate and learn as we go, but we will also be nimble enough to react and respond accordingly. I look forward to connecting with you and further articulating our future plans in the coming quarters. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our operator for Q and A. Operator00:13:22Thank And our first question is going to come from the line of Mike Grondahl with Northland. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:13:46Hey, thank you. Hey, Pam, I wanted to ask you kind of a 2 part question. One, what attracted you to Inspirado? And 2, what is your vision for Inspirado if you look out like 3 plus years? Speaker 400:14:08Hi, Mike. Great question. I've been watching Esprado for many years and I do travel a lot. I don't come from the hospitality industry, but I've been to many, many countries. I don't know exactly how many, but probably 60 to 70 countries. Speaker 400:14:28And I'm a big consumer of hotels, Airbnb, which I don't necessarily enjoy and other options out there. So it's probably something I've kept an eye on for a long time and I really like the business model. I love the concept of a subscription model with 12,000 members that represent some of the most successful people in our country and beyond. So that by itself is extremely interesting. And looking at this business, Speaker 600:15:05to me, Speaker 400:15:05it felt simple from the perspective that the company has significant revenue, but it's definitely spending more than what it should. So it seemed to me that the challenge wasn't as big as probably a false like by some of the people who've been around this business for a very long time. At the end of the day, it felt like here's the company with significant revenue, but it's spending about 10% more than it should at this point in time. I know it's been higher before. So that's really what attracted me, a company with a significant opportunity that it should really right size. Speaker 400:15:44So what do I think the next 3 years will look like? I like to make this business boring. I like to make this business one that has no drama that it does the same thing, but does it over and over again and does it very well. I want us to do more of the kinds of things that work, simplify our product and just become very, very good at selling our product. There are plenty of people we can sell this to. Speaker 400:16:11So really, I mean, you're not going to find necessarily a whole lot of innovation, but rather innovation in the form of doing a better job growing the kinds of things that we already have in place, maybe optimizing them, but I don't want to confuse the market. Speaker 600:16:29Fair enough. And I guess a follow-up question is, what are you going to focus the sales team on? In the past, we've heard about the core product then Inspirado for business, Inspirado for good, now Inspirado invited, all interesting things. But what do you anticipate you'll focus the sales group on over the next 6 to 12 months? Speaker 500:17:01Mike, this is David Callery. I would tell you that we're going to primarily focus the team on selling Club. Club is the heart of what we offer. We think 80% to 85% of the prospects that we engage with are attracted to that product. It's a very straightforward way to access the complete portfolio and all of our services. Speaker 500:17:24About 10% of our members or excuse me, prospects are very, very attracted to PATH. If you remember from prior conversations, PATH is highly flexible, last minute inventory that provides great value. And there's a consumer set out there that are looking for luxury, but they're looking for value. And then about 5% of our memberships going forward are going to be invited. We tested invited last year, Mike, in a beta format. Speaker 500:17:57No pomp and circumstance. We sold it to about 60 different members, watched the way they interacted with it. And there's a couple of features about that product that we think are very, very attractive. The fact that the pricing is flat, the same nightly rate for all trips was definitely something that consumers are attracted to. And then the 2 year booking calendar that they have access to is another feature that we think the invited prospects are going to be attracted to. Speaker 500:18:30The offering is a lot more expensive than some of our other offerings. We're selling it in a sort of a charter mode right now for $150,000 upfront and then they get the fixed pricing on the nightly rates after that. It's a very attractive product for a segment of the total population. So I'd summarize by saying 80%, 85% club, approximately 10% pass and maybe 5% invited. Speaker 600:18:58Got it. Yes. And the $4,000,000 you mentioned since June of cash flow from Invite It, that's a big number. That's great. Maybe my last question is just any updated thoughts on Capital One? Speaker 600:19:14That's something we've been looking forward to that integration. It sounds like 4Q, you can start accepting reservation. Any new thinking on how that may or may not drive the business? Speaker 500:19:30Mike, this is David again. Look, we're very, very excited about having the technical work done. There was a big lift there. Capital One uses Hopper as their technical platform. The team there was outstanding to work with, but it was a lot of work for us. Speaker 500:19:46And it's taken a few quarters. We're on the 1 yard line on finishing that work. We're actually done with the actual development work and we're just doing some testing. So over the last couple of weeks, we've moved back into discussions about the way we'll present and market the offering. Look, we're very, very excited. Speaker 500:20:05I mean Capital One, I'd argue, is one of the most prolific companies, definitely in the United States today in North America around demand. You can't really watch the Olympics or just about any other sporting event without seeing them. And we think they're going to make an amazing partner. I don't want to talk too, too much about what the future might look like because obviously this is very new for us. But we're very, very excited. Speaker 500:20:31We've put in a lot of the hard work and we're ready to begin transacting in Q4. Definitely something we'll keep you updated on in the future. Speaker 400:20:41Okay. Hey, thank you. Operator00:20:44Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Brett Knoblauch with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:20:56Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess, could we maybe just start on the controlled accommodation portfolio? I think we've embarked down this route of optimizing the accommodations almost kind of 2 years ago at this point. Has there been an increase to the number of underperforming locations? Speaker 300:21:17We've already taken, call it, 200, 300 accommodations out of the portfolio. Now we're looking to take more. So I guess, has the number of underperforming locations increased? Or how should we think about this constant reduction of controlled accommodations? Speaker 200:21:33Yes. Hey, Brett. Thanks for the question. It's Robert here. So we embarked starting in Q2 of last year. Speaker 200:21:40So just a little bit over a year ago on taking some of the portfolio out. When we did that, there was a number of reasons for it. One was we had seen that our demand didn't match our supply and we were oversupplied. And because of that in part, we were also seeing that we had occupancy rates that were lower than we'd like. And so we started that process then. Speaker 200:22:07As you may recall, it takes time for us to exit some of our leases. So it's usually 6 months to 12 months before you get out. So you give a notice, which we started to do in Q2 and did in Q3 of last year. And so we started to see really in Q1 of this year, where we started to see some pickup on that lease expense and saw some benefits to our overall occupancy rates. Q2 is a challenging quarter from an occupancy rate perspective, it's our lowest traveling quarter of the year. Speaker 200:22:38So, I'm not reading too much into those occupancy rates for this quarter. But we are we continue now as compared to the one big bang where we took out about 100 of our residences last year, We'll continue to optimize the portfolio. So last year when we did this, we said, what do we think the number of residences and our members will want to need next year and we targeted towards that number. Since then, we continue to look across our portfolio and we're making decisions such as, are there certain residents that are still underperforming and quite honestly, some of those residents might be new. We're still picking up a limited number of residences that relate back to deals that we cut in 2022. Speaker 200:23:23And so as we go through the 1st year with them, we're assessing what does their profitability look like, how much do our members really enjoy the experience at those locations, what are our occupancy rates. And so we're continuing to refine the portfolio. We did exit 1 group of properties, as we mentioned earlier, just now in Q3. That will be that's approximately 37 units. So that's a big haircut there. Speaker 200:23:49And then we are kind of reworking our entire portfolio for other properties that may not be achieving the results that we want. And at the same time, we continue to look at where the locations that we're, we wound up for whatever reason to be under invested in that our members really want to go to and we want to do a little bit more of a lift. The other thing I'd say is that from a hotel perspective, residence is obviously a big piece and we're down down close to 20% of residences. From a hotel perspective, we've also changed the mix there over the last 12 months or so. We had a bunch of leased hotels in our portfolio, and we had some really differentiated type of profitability on them. Speaker 200:24:39We've kept the ones that were profitable and the ones that weren't profitable, we've replaced them with what we described as net rate hotel arrangements, meaning we pay on a per night basis. So our members still get to go to all the great places they want to, but it doesn't have the same level of exposure for us. And we will continue to invest in leased hotels, but knowing that we've got the net rate hotels out there, we'll only do that when we get really attractive rates that we can pass on to our members in locations that they really want to be and in the best of hotels. Hope that helps. Speaker 300:25:12It does help. The 37 units, when will they, when will the lease expense fall off the income statement there? Speaker 200:25:20Yes. So we are we just entered into a termination arrangement. We'll be let me do it from a more from a cash perspective, which is that we'll be paying through end of March for those. And then after March of 2025, those will fully drop off the books. Speaker 300:25:43Got it. It. I guess when I look at just the subscriber count, I think it declined a little less than we expected this quarter, which is nice. I guess ultimately for the business to return to growth, club subscribers need to return to growth and given that's where your guys' emphasis is on. Have you guys tinkered with different pricing models for club maybe lowering it to ease the attractiveness to broader set of consumers? Speaker 300:26:18Or how should we think about that? Or is that something you guys haven't looked at? Speaker 500:26:24This is David, Brett. So absolutely over the last 24 months, but really with high focus over the last 12 months, we're really trying to guide new club subscribers toward multi year deals. And we're doing that by really making a multi year deal from a cost on an annual basis much more attractive. So I think you're going to start to see and you're already seeing some of the improvement that you're seeing is as a result of us selling these multiyear arrangements. The typical person is buying something today that's probably close to 2.5 years when you look at the number of folks that are buying 2 year memberships, 3 5 year memberships. Speaker 500:27:06So we see over time that that will continue to improve the multi year memberships and the economics associated with those. Speaker 300:27:19Got it. And I know you guys kind of have taken away guidance for the back half of the year, but should we think seasonality is somewhat consistent with years in the past, with call it Q3 being somewhat higher than Q2 and Q4 maybe a little bit lower than Q2? Or I guess any way to just give us some color on what we should be expecting for the full year? Speaker 200:27:47Yes, Brett. I think that's exactly right. We've seen a year over year decline, which has been fairly revenue perspective, are definitely and which also means from a margin perspective are typically and will be stronger quarters than Q2. Speaker 300:28:15Perfect. And if we're looking at occupancy rates for this quarter, they stepped down quite meaningfully from last quarter and were down year over year despite the maybe pricing initiatives you guys have put in place. Would you expect occupancy rates to improve going into the end of the year? Speaker 200:28:36Yes. I think we certainly will see an improvement in occupancy rates. Those units that we referenced, we those units are that we just took out are very much seasonal units. And so the benefits of those you see in Q3 and other parts of the year, they really have a downward impact on our occupancy. We did not have in 20 23 all those units in our portfolio yet. Speaker 200:29:05Those are newer units and so they hit us in a full effect in 2024 with really with a drag on our Q2 occupancy. And then just a more broad comment about the occupancy that you're asking about with the quarters. If you just think about the seasons of the year, Q2 is April, May June and there's not a lot of holidays in there. There's a little bit of summer. It really depends on how the year falls. Speaker 200:29:31And that's why that quarter is a lot weaker than the summer quarter or the holiday quarter or the ski quarter. So this is just there's just a lot of seasonality that goes into Q2 and therefore there can be a little bit of variability in occupancy goes a long way there in terms of having an impact on our margins as well. Speaker 300:29:55Perfect. Got it. Thank you, guys. Really appreciate it. Operator00:29:59Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference back to Chairman and CEO, Payam Zimani for closing remarks. Speaker 400:30:11Well, thank you very much. And we're really looking forward to sharing with you whatever progress that we make in the coming months quarters. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Inspirato Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:27I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Kyle Swirk, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:33Thank you, and good morning. Speaker 200:00:35On today's call, we have Chairman Speaker 100:00:36and CEO, Payam Zimani President, Dave Callery and CFO, Robert Katten. Yesterday afternoon, we issued our press release announcing our Q2 2024 results and the closing of our previously announced share purchase agreement and CEO's shareholders. Speaker 300:00:55Before we move Speaker 100:00:57into the comments, our expectations are based on assumptions and actual results could differ materially. In addition, during the call, we will discuss non GAAP measures, which are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these measures to directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our new Chairman and CEO, Payam Samani. Speaker 400:01:27Thank you, Kyle, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. I'm incredibly excited for today's call as we welcome a new era at Inspirada, one filled with promising opportunities. To help us accomplish these goals and further solidify our footing, I'm personally injecting $10,000,000 of new capital into the company in Q3. In addition to the investment, I'm also personally guaranteeing an additional $6,600,000 as part of a lease termination agreement. Important to note that when I say personally, it means through my entity, One Planet Group. Speaker 400:02:00These investments not only strengthen our liquidity position and improve our financial outlook, but also demonstrate to our current and prospective members that our business is in a stronger position than it was just a few days ago. We are now better equipped to achieve profitability while remaining committed to delivering exceptional service and world class experiences for all of our members and their loved ones. Having said that, this transition has also brought about a number of difficult decisions, namely our plan to reduce headcount by 15%. While losing team members is not an action I take lightly, it was a necessary action given the current size of the business. Upon reviewing its broader business plan and projections, it became clear that our current cost structure required further actions in order to make this business sustainable. Speaker 400:02:55To better support these goals and fully demonstrate my alignment with our shareholders, I have elected to a $1 to take a $1 salary in the form of cash as CEO and Chairman. And no cash bonus for the next year and will instead perform my duties solely compensated in shares, much of it performance based. Finally, in my role as Chairman, I will be naming 3 new directors to bring valuable experience, fresh perspective and diversity of thought to the Insprado Boardroom as we look to reshape our future. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our President, David Callery, to review some of the recent initiatives the company has undertaken. Speaker 500:03:36Thank you, Paya. Before reviewing the Inspirado platform and the successful repositioning we've done over the last few quarters, I want to express how truly excited I am to begin a new chapter at Inspirado. Payam has an illustrious career and has created tremendous value for investors and shareholders at each stop along the way. Prior to my time at Inspirado, I had the pleasure of working with him in the past and can personally attest to his work ethic, his vision and his cultural fit for both Inspirado and the members we serve. Payam is an entrepreneur, an investor and the founder of One Planet Group, a firm with a mission to support strong business ideas while building an ethos that helps improve society and give back to communities, which is also very closely aligned with our mission of inspiring lasting memories and relationships by enriching the way our members experience the world. Speaker 500:04:35Over the past year, we've made some incredible progress in improving our offerings that have laid the foundation for this transformation. First, we've returned to our roots as a luxury travel club and moved away from a high churn transaction based subscription model. Since the beginning of 2023, more than 75% of our new sales for Inspirato Club, which is the foundation of the company, have been for 2 years or more. 2nd, we reimagined Inspirado Pass to serve as the perfect complementary offering to club and to cater to a frequent and highly flexible traveler. Next, in June, we just started to introduce Inspirado by Invited. Speaker 500:05:23Invited offers 10 years of Inspirado club access combined with a 2 year booking window and the ability to prepay fixed nightly rates on an annual basis. While it's still very early, we've seen interest and excitement for this new offering. Since our limited introduction of this product in June, we've already generated over $4,000,000 in new cash flow. And finally, our strategic partner with Capital One, where we're reaching the tail end of the tech and system integration work and plan to be able to take reservations by the Q4. We expect this partnership to increase Inspirato's brand recognition, serve as a demand driver for paid nights, generate new membership sales and ultimately be a key contributor to Inspirato's future growth. Speaker 500:06:14In summary, our team has put in tremendous amount of work to set the stage for what we feel will be a true inflection point for the company. And I'm very confident that in the next few years of Inspirado will be our most successful under Payam's watchful eye and steady leadership. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Robert to discuss the financials for the quarter. Robert? Speaker 200:06:38Thanks, David. Before reviewing our Q2 results, I want to highlight what I feel is currently our most important financial metric, liquidity. Following the $10,000,000 capital infusion, 2nd quarter pro form a liquidity, including cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash was $39,000,000 compared to $33,000,000 at the end of the Q1. We've also made significant progress in our cash burn, which has improved by $23,000,000 or 64 percent in the first half of this year compared to the first half of twenty twenty three. In addition to the $10,000,000 capital injection in Q3 to bolster our liquidity, we have taken the following actions. Speaker 200:07:171st, we implemented additional cost cutting measures that we expect to result in approximately $25,000,000 of annualized savings. As Pia mentioned, this includes a 15% reduction in force implemented earlier this week. It's important to note these cuts were not made to member facing roles as we are capturing efficiencies without sacrificing our member experience. 2nd, we entered into a termination agreement of previously impaired underperforming leases. As part of this agreement, we will decrease our total committed future minimum lease payments by $57,000,000 Total cash savings from the termination of this agreement will be approximately $50,000,000 from 2025 through 2,031 after the lease termination payment of 6,600,000 from August 2024 through March 2025. Speaker 200:08:06In terms of our quarterly results, in the Q2, we generated total revenue of $67,000,000 a 20% decrease year over year. Much of the decrease was planned for and can be attributed to lower subscription revenue due to a 35% decrease in the number of past members and a 10% decrease in club members. In total, we exited the 2nd quarter with approximately 12,000 members and nearly 12,700 subscriptions, approximately 85% of which were club subscriptions. From a travel revenue perspective, there are a number of factors that contributed to the 19% year over year decrease. First, we saw a 12% decrease in our residents revenue, primarily due to ADRs of $15.35 coming in below quarters. Speaker 200:08:51While lowering our ADRs from previous highs is a part of a strategy to deliver value to members, we did not see an associated uptick in the number of paid nights delivered that we would have hoped for given the reduced rates. 2nd, hotel revenue decreased primarily from fewer nights delivered, not quite offsetting a modest increase in ADRs. Occupancy in our leased hotel rooms increased to 79% in the 2nd quarter from 76% last year as we continue to risk adjust our portfolio by removing underperforming leased hotels. Cost of revenue for the quarter was approximately $51,000,000 a 21% improvement from the prior year. Similar to the Q1, reduced lease expenses as well as their associated fixed costs were the single biggest driver in the year over year improvement. Speaker 200:09:38Given the seasonality of travel revenue, gross margins in the Q2 typically reflect the low watermark for the year. We believe that to be the case in 2024 as well as our 24% gross margin for the quarter compares favorably to 2023, but is a bit below our expectations and reflects the impact of a declining subscription revenue base. Our cash operating expenses in Q2 were approximately $27,000,000 compared to approximately $32,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. As Payam and David alluded to, we are planning for a further improvement in future operating expenses as a result of our reduced headcount and other cost reduction activities. We'll see modest cost savings in the 3rd quarter given severance payments and acceleration in cost savings thereafter. Speaker 200:10:28In total, we generated an adjusted EBITDA loss of $9,100,000 in the 2nd quarter compared to a loss of $11,700,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Year to date, our adjusted EBITDA loss of approximately 5,000,000 compares favorably to a loss of approximately $15,000,000 in 2023. In fact, we have been seeing consistent year over year improvements in our quarterly EBITDA figures for 3 consecutive quarters. This is despite revenue decreasing over the same time span. I call this out to emphasize that improvements we've made from both a product profitability and efficiency standpoint have been paying off. Speaker 200:11:04While much of our declines in revenue are planned, driven by a focus on product profitability, revenue trends are not where we want them to be. However, we are beginning to see some improvements in underlying KPIs in our different product offerings related to our product positioning work we embarked on earlier in 2024. While it's still early, we remain optimistic these are the right choices for the business. Looking at costs, our gross margins are up through the first half of the year, driven by the portfolio optimizations actions taken in the 1st part of the year and we've driven operating efficiencies not only within gross margin but also in the operating expenses. These changes are reflected in our improved EBITDA and EBITDA margins and significantly improved cash burn versus 2023. Speaker 200:11:48Finally, due to the change in leadership and the renewed cost reduction efforts we are undertaking, we are removing our 2024 guidance and we'll look to update you on our future on our plans in the future. Before turning the call over to the operator for Q and A, I'd like to turn it back to Payam for some closing remarks. Speaker 400:12:06Thank you, Robert. As many of you will soon find, I aim to be transparent and direct when communicating and these results are simply disappointing. While there certainly have been improvements in recent quarters, Insprado is not where I want it to be or where it should be as an organization. The past several years have been riddled with far too many challenges and frankly, poor failures. That said, I'm incredibly excited about the future and confident that we are on the cusp of great things. Speaker 400:12:38When I evaluate businesses, there are 3 things that matter to me the most: the culture of the company, profits and growth. But profits is by far more important than growth. It's quite simple. I firmly believe that you cannot cut your way to prosperity and it's time to once again invest in our growth. But again, first comes profitability. Speaker 400:13:03As we approach this next chapter, my promise is that we will continue to innovate and learn as we go, but we will also be nimble enough to react and respond accordingly. I look forward to connecting with you and further articulating our future plans in the coming quarters. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our operator for Q and A. Operator00:13:22Thank And our first question is going to come from the line of Mike Grondahl with Northland. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:13:46Hey, thank you. Hey, Pam, I wanted to ask you kind of a 2 part question. One, what attracted you to Inspirado? And 2, what is your vision for Inspirado if you look out like 3 plus years? Speaker 400:14:08Hi, Mike. Great question. I've been watching Esprado for many years and I do travel a lot. I don't come from the hospitality industry, but I've been to many, many countries. I don't know exactly how many, but probably 60 to 70 countries. Speaker 400:14:28And I'm a big consumer of hotels, Airbnb, which I don't necessarily enjoy and other options out there. So it's probably something I've kept an eye on for a long time and I really like the business model. I love the concept of a subscription model with 12,000 members that represent some of the most successful people in our country and beyond. So that by itself is extremely interesting. And looking at this business, Speaker 600:15:05to me, Speaker 400:15:05it felt simple from the perspective that the company has significant revenue, but it's definitely spending more than what it should. So it seemed to me that the challenge wasn't as big as probably a false like by some of the people who've been around this business for a very long time. At the end of the day, it felt like here's the company with significant revenue, but it's spending about 10% more than it should at this point in time. I know it's been higher before. So that's really what attracted me, a company with a significant opportunity that it should really right size. Speaker 400:15:44So what do I think the next 3 years will look like? I like to make this business boring. I like to make this business one that has no drama that it does the same thing, but does it over and over again and does it very well. I want us to do more of the kinds of things that work, simplify our product and just become very, very good at selling our product. There are plenty of people we can sell this to. Speaker 400:16:11So really, I mean, you're not going to find necessarily a whole lot of innovation, but rather innovation in the form of doing a better job growing the kinds of things that we already have in place, maybe optimizing them, but I don't want to confuse the market. Speaker 600:16:29Fair enough. And I guess a follow-up question is, what are you going to focus the sales team on? In the past, we've heard about the core product then Inspirado for business, Inspirado for good, now Inspirado invited, all interesting things. But what do you anticipate you'll focus the sales group on over the next 6 to 12 months? Speaker 500:17:01Mike, this is David Callery. I would tell you that we're going to primarily focus the team on selling Club. Club is the heart of what we offer. We think 80% to 85% of the prospects that we engage with are attracted to that product. It's a very straightforward way to access the complete portfolio and all of our services. Speaker 500:17:24About 10% of our members or excuse me, prospects are very, very attracted to PATH. If you remember from prior conversations, PATH is highly flexible, last minute inventory that provides great value. And there's a consumer set out there that are looking for luxury, but they're looking for value. And then about 5% of our memberships going forward are going to be invited. We tested invited last year, Mike, in a beta format. Speaker 500:17:57No pomp and circumstance. We sold it to about 60 different members, watched the way they interacted with it. And there's a couple of features about that product that we think are very, very attractive. The fact that the pricing is flat, the same nightly rate for all trips was definitely something that consumers are attracted to. And then the 2 year booking calendar that they have access to is another feature that we think the invited prospects are going to be attracted to. Speaker 500:18:30The offering is a lot more expensive than some of our other offerings. We're selling it in a sort of a charter mode right now for $150,000 upfront and then they get the fixed pricing on the nightly rates after that. It's a very attractive product for a segment of the total population. So I'd summarize by saying 80%, 85% club, approximately 10% pass and maybe 5% invited. Speaker 600:18:58Got it. Yes. And the $4,000,000 you mentioned since June of cash flow from Invite It, that's a big number. That's great. Maybe my last question is just any updated thoughts on Capital One? Speaker 600:19:14That's something we've been looking forward to that integration. It sounds like 4Q, you can start accepting reservation. Any new thinking on how that may or may not drive the business? Speaker 500:19:30Mike, this is David again. Look, we're very, very excited about having the technical work done. There was a big lift there. Capital One uses Hopper as their technical platform. The team there was outstanding to work with, but it was a lot of work for us. Speaker 500:19:46And it's taken a few quarters. We're on the 1 yard line on finishing that work. We're actually done with the actual development work and we're just doing some testing. So over the last couple of weeks, we've moved back into discussions about the way we'll present and market the offering. Look, we're very, very excited. Speaker 500:20:05I mean Capital One, I'd argue, is one of the most prolific companies, definitely in the United States today in North America around demand. You can't really watch the Olympics or just about any other sporting event without seeing them. And we think they're going to make an amazing partner. I don't want to talk too, too much about what the future might look like because obviously this is very new for us. But we're very, very excited. Speaker 500:20:31We've put in a lot of the hard work and we're ready to begin transacting in Q4. Definitely something we'll keep you updated on in the future. Speaker 400:20:41Okay. Hey, thank you. Operator00:20:44Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Brett Knoblauch with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:20:56Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess, could we maybe just start on the controlled accommodation portfolio? I think we've embarked down this route of optimizing the accommodations almost kind of 2 years ago at this point. Has there been an increase to the number of underperforming locations? Speaker 300:21:17We've already taken, call it, 200, 300 accommodations out of the portfolio. Now we're looking to take more. So I guess, has the number of underperforming locations increased? Or how should we think about this constant reduction of controlled accommodations? Speaker 200:21:33Yes. Hey, Brett. Thanks for the question. It's Robert here. So we embarked starting in Q2 of last year. Speaker 200:21:40So just a little bit over a year ago on taking some of the portfolio out. When we did that, there was a number of reasons for it. One was we had seen that our demand didn't match our supply and we were oversupplied. And because of that in part, we were also seeing that we had occupancy rates that were lower than we'd like. And so we started that process then. Speaker 200:22:07As you may recall, it takes time for us to exit some of our leases. So it's usually 6 months to 12 months before you get out. So you give a notice, which we started to do in Q2 and did in Q3 of last year. And so we started to see really in Q1 of this year, where we started to see some pickup on that lease expense and saw some benefits to our overall occupancy rates. Q2 is a challenging quarter from an occupancy rate perspective, it's our lowest traveling quarter of the year. Speaker 200:22:38So, I'm not reading too much into those occupancy rates for this quarter. But we are we continue now as compared to the one big bang where we took out about 100 of our residences last year, We'll continue to optimize the portfolio. So last year when we did this, we said, what do we think the number of residences and our members will want to need next year and we targeted towards that number. Since then, we continue to look across our portfolio and we're making decisions such as, are there certain residents that are still underperforming and quite honestly, some of those residents might be new. We're still picking up a limited number of residences that relate back to deals that we cut in 2022. Speaker 200:23:23And so as we go through the 1st year with them, we're assessing what does their profitability look like, how much do our members really enjoy the experience at those locations, what are our occupancy rates. And so we're continuing to refine the portfolio. We did exit 1 group of properties, as we mentioned earlier, just now in Q3. That will be that's approximately 37 units. So that's a big haircut there. Speaker 200:23:49And then we are kind of reworking our entire portfolio for other properties that may not be achieving the results that we want. And at the same time, we continue to look at where the locations that we're, we wound up for whatever reason to be under invested in that our members really want to go to and we want to do a little bit more of a lift. The other thing I'd say is that from a hotel perspective, residence is obviously a big piece and we're down down close to 20% of residences. From a hotel perspective, we've also changed the mix there over the last 12 months or so. We had a bunch of leased hotels in our portfolio, and we had some really differentiated type of profitability on them. Speaker 200:24:39We've kept the ones that were profitable and the ones that weren't profitable, we've replaced them with what we described as net rate hotel arrangements, meaning we pay on a per night basis. So our members still get to go to all the great places they want to, but it doesn't have the same level of exposure for us. And we will continue to invest in leased hotels, but knowing that we've got the net rate hotels out there, we'll only do that when we get really attractive rates that we can pass on to our members in locations that they really want to be and in the best of hotels. Hope that helps. Speaker 300:25:12It does help. The 37 units, when will they, when will the lease expense fall off the income statement there? Speaker 200:25:20Yes. So we are we just entered into a termination arrangement. We'll be let me do it from a more from a cash perspective, which is that we'll be paying through end of March for those. And then after March of 2025, those will fully drop off the books. Speaker 300:25:43Got it. It. I guess when I look at just the subscriber count, I think it declined a little less than we expected this quarter, which is nice. I guess ultimately for the business to return to growth, club subscribers need to return to growth and given that's where your guys' emphasis is on. Have you guys tinkered with different pricing models for club maybe lowering it to ease the attractiveness to broader set of consumers? Speaker 300:26:18Or how should we think about that? Or is that something you guys haven't looked at? Speaker 500:26:24This is David, Brett. So absolutely over the last 24 months, but really with high focus over the last 12 months, we're really trying to guide new club subscribers toward multi year deals. And we're doing that by really making a multi year deal from a cost on an annual basis much more attractive. So I think you're going to start to see and you're already seeing some of the improvement that you're seeing is as a result of us selling these multiyear arrangements. The typical person is buying something today that's probably close to 2.5 years when you look at the number of folks that are buying 2 year memberships, 3 5 year memberships. Speaker 500:27:06So we see over time that that will continue to improve the multi year memberships and the economics associated with those. Speaker 300:27:19Got it. And I know you guys kind of have taken away guidance for the back half of the year, but should we think seasonality is somewhat consistent with years in the past, with call it Q3 being somewhat higher than Q2 and Q4 maybe a little bit lower than Q2? Or I guess any way to just give us some color on what we should be expecting for the full year? Speaker 200:27:47Yes, Brett. I think that's exactly right. We've seen a year over year decline, which has been fairly revenue perspective, are definitely and which also means from a margin perspective are typically and will be stronger quarters than Q2. Speaker 300:28:15Perfect. And if we're looking at occupancy rates for this quarter, they stepped down quite meaningfully from last quarter and were down year over year despite the maybe pricing initiatives you guys have put in place. Would you expect occupancy rates to improve going into the end of the year? Speaker 200:28:36Yes. I think we certainly will see an improvement in occupancy rates. Those units that we referenced, we those units are that we just took out are very much seasonal units. And so the benefits of those you see in Q3 and other parts of the year, they really have a downward impact on our occupancy. We did not have in 20 23 all those units in our portfolio yet. Speaker 200:29:05Those are newer units and so they hit us in a full effect in 2024 with really with a drag on our Q2 occupancy. And then just a more broad comment about the occupancy that you're asking about with the quarters. If you just think about the seasons of the year, Q2 is April, May June and there's not a lot of holidays in there. There's a little bit of summer. It really depends on how the year falls. Speaker 200:29:31And that's why that quarter is a lot weaker than the summer quarter or the holiday quarter or the ski quarter. So this is just there's just a lot of seasonality that goes into Q2 and therefore there can be a little bit of variability in occupancy goes a long way there in terms of having an impact on our margins as well. Speaker 300:29:55Perfect. Got it. Thank you, guys. Really appreciate it. Operator00:29:59Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference back to Chairman and CEO, Payam Zimani for closing remarks. Speaker 400:30:11Well, thank you very much. And we're really looking forward to sharing with you whatever progress that we make in the coming months quarters. Speaker 300:30:27Thank you.Read morePowered by