NICE Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 15, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to

Speaker 1

the NICE Conference Call discussing Second Quarter 20 24 Results, and thank you all for holding. All participants are at present in a listen only mode. Following management's formal presentation, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded August 15, 2024. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr.

Speaker 1

Marty Cohen, Vice President, Investor Relations at NICE. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. With me on the call today are Barak Elam, Chief Executive Officer and Beth Gaspich, Chief Financial Officer. Before we start, I'd like to point out that some of the statements made on this call will constitute forward looking statements in accordance with the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Please be advised that the company's actual results could differ materially from these forward looking statements. Additional information regarding the factors that could cause actual results or performance of the company to differ materially is contained in the section entitled Risk Factors in Item 3 of the company's 2023 Annual Report on Form 20 F as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on March 7, 2024.

Speaker 2

During today's call, we'll present a more detailed discussion of Q2 2024 results and the company's guidance for the Q3 and full year 2024. You can find our press release as well as the PDFs of our financial results on NICE's Investor Relations website. Following our comments, there will be an opportunity for questions. Let me remind you that unless otherwise noted on this call, we will be commenting on our adjusted results of operations, which differ in certain respects from generally accepted accounting principles, as reflected mainly in accounting for share based compensation, amortization of acquired intangible assets, acquisition related and other expenses, amortization of discount on debt and loss from extinguishment of debt and the tax effect of the non GAAP adjustments. The differences between the non GAAP adjusted results and the equivalent GAAP figures are detailed in today's press release.

Speaker 2

The information and some of our comments discussed on this call may contain forward looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. And I'll now turn the call over to Barak.

Operator

Thank you, Marty, and welcome, everyone. I'm happy to be with all of you this morning and share our great Q2 results as well as some exciting news. Earlier today, we announced the appointment of Scott Russell as the next CEO of NICE. Scott will join us and step into his role at the start of 2025. I will continue to lead the company through the end of this year and support Scott for a smooth transition.

Operator

Scott's appointment follows a thorough search conducted by our Board of Directors who looks for the best candidate to lead NICE to its next phase of growth and transformation. Scott brings with him 25 years of experience in enterprise software, most recently as Global Chief Revenue Officer and member of the Executive Board of SAP. Scott also serves as the Chairman of SAP North America and Chairman of multiple business units of the SAP portfolio. I would like to take this opportunity and give a warm welcome to Scott to NICE and I look forward to working with him. Now to Q2 results.

Operator

The momentum we built in Q1 carried through to Q2 evidenced by strong results across the board. The growing adoption of our AI along with the unmatched power platform power of CXone are thriving. We reported total revenue of $664,000,000 in Q2, representing an increase of 14% compared to the same quarter last year with cloud revenue growing 26 percent to $482,000,000 These robust top line results continue to outpace the market and are also resulting in impressive market beating profitability gains. Topping the list is our industry leading cloud gross margin of 70.2%, aided by our highly profitable AI solutions. Other strong profitability metrics included operating income growth of 19% to $202,000,000 and an increase in operating margin of 120 basis points to 30.4 percent.

Operator

We exceeded the high end of our guidance range on EPS coming at in $2.64 for Q2, which was an increase of 24% compared to the same quarter last year. Building on exceptional Q1 cash flow generation, the momentum continued into Q2 as we generated $170,000,000 of operating cash, which represent an increase of 160% compared to Q2 last year. The market leadership gap between NICE and the rest of the industry continues to significantly widen. We are winning, displacing the competition and increasing our market share. In fact, Q2 bookings were extremely strong throughout the period, driven by all time high bookings for CXone.

Operator

This booking strength was evident in all market segments and especially with large enterprises, lending multiple 7 and 8 figure deals. Furthermore, NICE stands out not only by the scale of our business, but also for the ongoing rapid expansion of our profitability. Our superior gross margin continues to further accelerate. Our free cash flow with a record of $639,000,000 over the last 12 months. This unique financial strength allows us the flexibility to continue investing in R and D, expanding our go to market and seeking potential acquisitions to further enlarge our opportunities for growth.

Operator

We are approaching the 2 year anniversary of the introduction of Gen AI that swiftly changed the semiconductor infrastructure and software landscape. Companies of all sizes worldwide, along with consumers, investors and analysts are all striving to understand the implications of AI in various aspects of work and life. I believe that like many other technological waves, we are getting closer to the point of shifting from the dramatic to the pragmatic. Enterprises, in particular, after exploring initial ways to leverage Jet AI to boost productivity and reduce costs, are now adopting a more mature and systematic approach. They recognize the importance of partnering with leading vendor in each specific business function, one that possesses deep domain expertise, relevant proprietary data, end to end workflows and above all a robust platform designed to fully harness the potential of AI for the enterprise.

Operator

This recognition is especially evident for the function of customer service, where the expectations for significant cost savings and productivity gains are very high. However, initial efforts to deploy generic GenAI failed to deliver the desired results. This disillusionment is transitioning the customer service market from hype to reality, the ultimate time for NICE, the tool leader in functional AI for customer service. We've already experienced the shift and it continues to accelerate. The depth of conversations, the speed of adoption and the sheer number of use cases are growing rapidly.

Operator

CXone is the go to platform for enterprises looking to standardize on a platform that not only transitions them to the cloud, but also converges all customer service workflows while infusing AI for end to end automation and orchestration. It's the result of our decade long strategy to build CXone as a comprehensive cloud platform that covers all customer service touch points and workflows combined with unmatched data assets. This approach is the only viable way to truly unlock the benefits of AI in customer service. In Q2, AI revenues surged 38%. Furthermore, demand for our AI solutions is thriving.

Operator

It was just 1 year ago at Interactions, our annual user conference, when we introduced CoPilot, Autopilot and Actions. 1 year later, adoption has been stunning with bookings for Autopilot and CoPilot together soaring 134% in Q2. Moreover, the number of deals greater than $1,000,000 ACV that included AI jumped 100% compared to the same period last year. The AI deal signed in Q2 decked up the strong results. We signed a 7 digit deal with 1 of the world's largest IT companies, replacing the incumbents with CXone.

Operator

A key driver for the win was our clear advantage in functional AI in head to head comparisons against other vendors, leading them to select NICE for its proven AI portfolio. In another 7 digit AI deal, a large global hotel chain is seeking to enhance its digital transformation and required exceptional accuracy in identifying consumer intents. They value our extensive data repository and thousands of CX AI models, which provided the precision they needed. Consequentially, they purchased CXone Autopilot to help ensure their future digital success. Elau's regional energy company is advancing its AI strategy and recognized that their existing on premise non integrated infrastructure and solutions would not suffice.

Operator

In this 7 digit deal, they are standardizing on CXone for its seamless AI architecture and comprehensive portfolio of AI solutions, capabilities that AI points providers could not match. In another deal, where both functional AI and the platform, Repivotal, a major U. K.-based telecom provider is replacing 10 different point solutions, including 2 large incumbent on premise providers. They are consolidating on CXone to advance their digital transformation supported by NICE's advanced AI. The platform power of CXone is unrivaled in our industry, Designed as the 1st and only customer centric platform, it natively integrates all touch points and interactions.

Operator

From day 1, CXone was built on these principles, offering the largest seamlessly integrated portfolio of CX solutions and the most robust CX infrastructure in the market. While the platform value proposition is well recognized, its adoption is now significantly accelerating because it provides the only viable way to implement effective AI. Every quarter, more enterprises are consolidating on to CXone, as evidenced by the rise in value of portfolio deals, those involving 3 or more of our solutions, along with an overall increase in large deals. These typically large portfolio deals tend to be very sticky, driving long term value for NICE, as enterprises continue to expand the use of our portfolio over time. In Q2, we witnessed a surge in the booking of portfolio deals, increasing 71% compared to the same quarter last year.

Operator

Additionally, bookings of portfolio deals from new customers jumped 150%, convincingly demonstrating the demand for CXone to replace both incumbent on premise and cloud providers that are unable to deliver the 2 platform at scale. Also, deals are getting larger. We signed 5 8 digit TCV deals in Q2. These deals will power durable value for NICE over a long period due to the platform stickiness and its ability to drive long term upsells and cross sells owed to the breadth and depth of the CXone portfolio. We signed an 8 digit ACV deal with a very large organization in the APAC region.

Operator

They were the largest on premise customer in the region of 1 of our direct competitors. This is a great example of the power and scale of CXone as a platform. By consolidating multiple legacy on premise providers, they opted for CXone to manage the 1,000,000,000 online transactions and 55,000,000 calls annually. CXone stood out as the only platform capable of meeting the extensive CX operational requirements and workflows of such a large organization, while also providing the capabilities to meet all future digital and AI needs. The power of the platform also secured a 7 digit deal with 1 of the world's largest cruise lines.

Operator

We replaced several long standing incumbents and outperformed other cloud providers, delivering the comprehensive and seamless capabilities of a single platform like CXone. CXone was the only platform to help them eliminate the need for multiple point solutions, while also future proving their ability to add digital and self-service capabilities down the road. We signed a 7 digit deal with a leading healthcare company replacing their on premise incumbent solutions. Their goal is to consolidate onto a single cloud platform to provide a modern experience for their partners, customers and agents. We secured the deal with CXone, thanks to the flexibility of the platform, which allows for gradual adoption of advanced functionalities, including advanced AI as the foundation for the digital transformation.

Operator

These consistent quarter after quarter mega deals signing highlights our ongoing success in the large enterprise market, where our achievements are unparalleled. Our momentum is further accelerated by our expanding global ecosystem as partners are drawn to our success and by the adoption of our recent innovations, including our disruptive UCaaS solution, 1CX. Additionally, we recently launched Empower, which brings together the entirety of CXone with our AI solutions to create the world's first and only CX Aware AI platform. This platform harnesses continuous experience memory and CX awareness, a fit possible only with a comprehensive platform like CXone. In summary, our market leadership continues to widen as demonstrated by our consistently strong quarterly results.

Operator

Our record CXone bookings in Q2 highlight our exceptional cloud revenue growth, which far outpaces our competitors, while our profitability is at the upper echelon of the enterprise software industry. With the most comprehensive CX platform in CXone, rapid innovation in AI that is experiencing significant enterprise adoption and revenue growth and the flexibility afforded by our rock solid financial position, we are positioned for continued market leadership expansion and long term growth. I will now turn the call over to Beth.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Barak. Q2 highlights the healthy fundamentals demonstrated by our financial results stemming from the impressive execution we continue to deliver each and every quarter. We surpassed our expectations across our key financial metrics, including strong total revenue growth, excellent profitability, robust cash flow generation and the acceleration of our share buyback program. In fact, this quarter saw the largest share repurchases that we have ever executed totaling $146,000,000 evidencing the confidence we have as a continued leader in all the markets where we operate. Total revenue was a record $664,000,000 up 14% year over year, outperforming the midpoint of our guidance.

Speaker 3

Non GAAP EPS of $2.64 exceeded the high end of our guidance range. We have always been laser focused on ongoing expansion of our profitability as a general operating guideline at NICE. This quarter was yet another testament to this success with record EPS as well as our outstanding operating cash where we have generated nearly $0.75 billion over the last 12 months. With the ongoing expansion of cloud across both our business segments, our recurring revenue further increased to a record 89% of total revenue in the Q1 compared to 86% last year. Recurring revenue is comprised primarily of a combination of cloud revenue and maintenance revenue, which is a component in our services revenue.

Speaker 3

Cloud revenue, which now represents a record 63% of our total revenue compared to 66% last year, increased 26% year over year to a record $482,000,000 This growth is driven predominantly by CXone, where we see the number of users on our platforms continue to expand as we further penetrate the large enterprise market and continue to up sell and cross sell our leading mainly due to our transition to the cloud, where we are adding less new mainly due to our transition to the cloud where we are adding less new maintenance revenue associated with our premise based solutions. Accordingly, product revenue from on premise sales, which represented 5% of total revenue in the quarter, decreased 13% year over year as expected, primarily coming from the Financial Crime and Compliance segment. From a geographic breakdown, the Americas region, which represented 85% total revenue in Q2, grew 16% year over year. The Americas region has continued to excel as customers transition from multiple legacy third party solutions onto our CXone offering, the industry's only seamlessly integrated comprehensive CX platform. The EMEA region, which represented 10% of our total revenue, increased 16% year over year.

Speaker 3

The APAC region, which represents 5% of total revenue, decreased 9% year over year as a result of the positive ongoing transition to the cloud that is accompanied by a reduction in upfront premise based product revenue. We continue to see great adoption across the globe of our cloud platforms, and we are extremely excited about some of our recent wins, including our largest ever international CXone deal signed in Q2 in the Asia Pacific region with an estimated TCV of over $100,000,000 This large win is another indication of the positive momentum and market share expansion we see globally, thanks to the depth and breadth of our platform together with our broad network channel partners. We are only just getting started with a huge runway still ahead of us in the highly underpenetrated large enterprise and international segments of our markets. We delivered fantastic results across both our business segments, Customer engagement revenues, which represented 84% of our total revenue in Q2, were a record $556,000,000 a 15% year over year increase. The growth in customer engagement is driven predominantly by the success of CXone, both with new and existing customers of all sizes and our unparalleled ability to deliver CX at scale to the enterprise market to meet their advanced digital and AI needs for a holistic CX experience.

Speaker 3

Revenues from Financial Crime and Compliance, which represented 16% of our total revenue in Q2 and totaled a record $109,000,000 increased 9% year over year driven by the increase in cloud revenue. Moving to profitability, our cloud gross margin totaled 70.2% in Q2, similar to last year as we continue to invest in global expansion of our cloud platforms that is driving our strong international cloud revenue growth. We remain steadfast in our expectations to reach our 75% cloud gross margin target in the medium term. In Q2, operating income increased 19% year over year to an all time high of $202,000,000 and our healthy operating margin increased 120 basis points to 30.4 percent compared to 29.2% last year. This is the 4th consecutive quarter of 30% plus operating margins and we reiterate our expectation of an operating margin between 30.5% to 31% for the full year of 2024 as I shared at our recent Investor Day.

Speaker 3

Earnings per share for the Q2 far exceeded our expectations coming in above our guidance range at $2.64 a 24% increase compared to Q2 last year. Cash flow from operations in Q2 was $170,000,000 an increase of 160% year over year. Our industry leading operating cash flow has yielded an exceptional 28.5 percent operating cash flow margin over the last 12 months. Due to the strength of our first half cash flow generation, we are increasing our expectation of free cash flow generation for the full year 2024 to be in excess of $700,000,000 implying 47% year over year growth. In Q2, we repurchased shares totaling $146,000,000 We are executing well on our plan to accelerate and complete our current 300,000,000 share buyback program by the end of Q3.

Speaker 3

After completing the current plan, we will begin implementing our even larger share buyback program of $500,000,000 The acceleration and expansion of the buyback plans are a demonstration of the continued confidence in the growth of our business and our solid financial profile. Total cash and investments at the end of June totaled $1,504,000,000 Our debt stands at $458,000,000 resulting in net cash and investments exceeding $1,446,000,000 In conclusion, we consistently demonstrate clear industry leadership through our best in class cloud platforms, the comprehensive breadth and depth of our solutions portfolio and our robust financial profile, marked by exceptional profitability, scalability, strong balance sheet and impressive cash generation. Now I'll close with our total revenue and non GAAP EPS guidance for the Q3 and full year 2024. For the Q3 of 2024, we expect total revenue to be in the range of $676,000,000 to $686,000,000 representing 13% year over year growth at the midpoint. We expect the Q3 2024 fully diluted earnings per share to be in a range of $2.62 to $2.72 representing 18% year over year growth at the midpoint.

Speaker 3

For the full year 2024, we are maintaining our previous revenue guidance and raising our EPS guidance. We reiterate our full year 2024 total revenue guidance, which is expected to be in the range of 2.7 $15,000,000 to $2,735,000,000 an increase of 15% at the midpoint. We now expect full year 2024 fully diluted earnings per share to increase to a range of $10.60 to $10.80 which represents an increase of 22% at the midpoint. I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions.

Speaker 1

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. You. Our first question comes from the line of Samad Samana with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. Good to see the strong execution in a tough environment. So maybe first question, just as I think about the Q2, Beth, could you help us understand, I know you're not specifically breaking out Livebox, but just how should we think about the core business versus how Livebox is performing versus your initial expectations for the year? And is there anything worth calling out, especially as you're now several months into the acquisition being with the company? Are you starting to see more traction in cross selling or harvesting the value from a revenue synergy perspective?

Speaker 4

And then I have a follow-up as well.

Speaker 3

Thank you for the questions, Samad. And what we're seeing from the LiveVox is performance as expected. I think we've been off to a great start this year. I may have mentioned at the last earnings call that they actually joined us at our sales kickoff this year. So really right out of the gate, we had a great process integrating them into the company.

Speaker 3

They are performing as we expected, and we're quite pleased with how things are going. We continue to see an increasing pipeline building of cross selling and up selling opportunities that are happening and we are seeing already that we are cross selling into each other's customer base, which was part of the underlying strategy. So very much aligned and expected with what we had really targeted as part of the strategy of the acquisition.

Speaker 4

Great. And then maybe just as I look to the guidance, it implies an acceleration as the year progresses. I know the comps got a little bit easier, but I think just based on what we're seeing maybe in other areas of software and some of your competitors, it would be great if you could help us understand where you're getting comfort around a back half acceleration and how confident are you? I know there's still a lot of year left to go, but how should we think about the back half acceleration?

Speaker 3

Yes, thank you for the question. I mean, we're looking on the second half. And I think as we look at the quarterly distribution of our revenue and how we will see a further execution from that standpoint throughout the year, It looks quite consistent with what we've seen in past years. And in terms of the confidence, it comes from a combination of course, first from the area that Brock highlighted just a few minutes ago, which is we had record bookings, of course, in of CXone during Q2. So that was quite exciting.

Speaker 3

And combined with that, I think just the general backlog we've seen, the stabilization generally in our customer base and healthy metrics across the board gives us the confidence that we're continuing to be excited about the continued execution of our business. Great.

Speaker 4

And Barak and Scott, if you're listening, I'd like to congratulate you both. And Barak, congrats on navigating the transition. And Scott, look forward to working with you when you're officially onboard. Take care, everybody. Thank you.

Operator

Appreciate that, Samad. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. Barak, you guys have always been very good about kind of starting with a core win and then kind of expanding customers over time through various parts of the platform. Just wanted to get a sense of, are you seeing kind of bigger deals upfront, smaller deals upfront? Has any of the motion of selling kind of additional parts of the portfolio or the timelines of that changed?

Speaker 5

And then just maybe as a second question, I know, Smaj just kind of talked about it in the second half, but just for Beth, any changes in seasonality of the customers? Thanks.

Operator

So I'll take the first question, then Beth will take the second one. So the answer is yes, we are seeing bigger deals, as I mentioned in my open remarks. We are winning. Our win rate is increasing. We believe we're taking market share from the competition.

Operator

You see it in our growth. We are growing much faster than the competition and on a much larger scale. And it's a combination of more deals that we are winning, but also as you hinted the fact that we have such a wide portfolio and customer either adopt the wider portfolio in day 1 or actually expand down the road. And AI plays a significant role in this strategy. We see that we are winning those cloud transformation, not just because customers want to move to the cloud or not just because the desire to integrate digital into that, but AI now plays a very significant part in our win rate and us taking the market share from the competition.

Operator

And Beth will cover the second question.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you, Barak. On the seasonality front, we expect it to be quite similar to what we've seen in years past. Generally, Q4 typically has a bit more positive seasonality impact than what we would see in the Q3, and that's typical where you typically see the sequential cloud growth is also picking up towards the end of the year. Of course, you know we are operating across multiple verticals, but we do have verticals that tend to bring that seasonality.

Speaker 3

It includes insurance and healthcare, retail. So we expect to see that again in the course of year. And I mentioned that the kind of the consistent quarterly distribution is on trend with what we've seen in years past.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Yes. Thank you for taking the question and congrats on the CEO hire. It sounded like it was a really strong quarter from an enterprise bookings perspective. But I was wondering if you could talk about the non enterprise side of the business. It did look like the sequential cloud growth was some of the smallest you've seen just in terms of a dollar or percentage basis for the Q2 in a few years.

Speaker 6

Was SMB a greater headwind than you thought and maybe offsetting some of that enterprise strength? And then if you could just help us understand, are you still targeting 18% organic cloud growth for the year? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you for the question, Tyler. So I'll start off with the latter question first, which is yes. So we still continue to expect to see the 18% growth in the cloud, excluding the LiveVox revenue contribution from the cloud this year. In terms of kind of 2nd quarter and I would say it was less attributed to the SMB where we've seen really stabilization and it really is attributed more to what we're seeing with wins in the large enterprise.

Speaker 3

We've talked about the significant number of large deals that we continue to sign and Investor Day actually shared that more than half of our cloud revenue is now coming from organizations that have ARR of $1,000,000 or more. And likewise, that's what we're seeing from the new logos and new bookings generally that we're signing this year as well. So as a result of that, there is more of an elongated ramp into the revenue. These organizations tend to be multinational, highly complex. We know that they generally

Speaker 4

are buying portfolio deals. For us, that

Speaker 3

means they're buying 3 or more solutions off the are buying portfolio deals. For us, that means they're buying 3 or more solutions off the platform. So it takes some time for the delivery to ramp to the full recurring revenue base that it will have. So we saw that play out a little bit in Q2. And of course, we're keeping that in consideration as we look at the full year as well.

Speaker 3

That being said, I think again, we feel confident based on all of the indications of the strength of our business to deliver on the 18% that we've previously given guidance for on the cloud.

Operator

Maybe just to add one more thing on the SMB. It's less for the immediate revenue this quarter, but most about the potential down the road. We announced about a quarter and a half ago the 1 CX, the $5 UCaaS, which is very disruptive, it is fully functional, very rich offering on UCaaS, fully integrated to CX and we see that we are disrupting this market and more and more deals in the SMB were winning with this offering. So it's still early days, but from the many, many deals we already won and the pipeline that we see, there is great potential over there.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you for all that color. And maybe a follow-up for you, Beth, just as you think about the timing and the ramp of those large enterprise deals that you referenced, how far away are we from cloud revenue growth reaccelerating? I think you would have to see growth step up to hit 18% for the full year. So is that going to be more of a Q4 event?

Speaker 6

Just help us understand kind of the timing of the large enterprise ramps in terms of reaccelerating the total cloud growth?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. As Scott alluded to, I think the distribution of our revenue looks very similar to what we have seen in years past. And that does mean that we'll see the greatest kind of sequential input expected in the Q4 that's coming from the seasonality. So we'll see it again picking up in the back half generally, but more so in the Q4, which is generally on trend with what we've seen and experienced in the years past as well.

Operator

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of James Fish with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. I actually want to turn over to the FCC side of the business. Every 3 years, we see a cyclical uplift. It was kind of the stronger part of the quarter really. Why wouldn't this quarter be kind of that start of a trend of the cyclical uplift given what happened if I look back 3 years ago?

Speaker 7

And if so, how should we expect the balance between for that perpetual product adoption versus term adoption versus the migrations to the cloud? As to kind of Tyler's point, cloud revenue and aggregate came a little bit weaker than we were all expecting in terms of net new. And so we're just wondering if you're seeing a little bit more of a say in product adoption on the FCC side as opposed to that migration to the cloud?

Operator

Well, thanks for the question. You're right to feel observation that historically this business had some element of seasonality or cyclical element to it. And obviously, it's somewhat aligned with upcoming regulations and things like that. Having said that, it's going through a very interesting transformation, a solid one. It is shifting to the cloud and the team is doing it in a phenomenal and great way.

Operator

Beth mentioned that and one of the reasons why we see some fluctuation in product revenues is predominantly coming from that business. So we'll continue to see some of those fluctuation on the product revenues. But by and large, we think that if you look on the next few years, it will be a great contributor to our cloud revenue, but it's a process we're managing. And one of the important thing about this business, the loyalty and the stickiness of customers over there, this is the area of the business where customers stay with us for decades or 2 decades. So that's what we really like about this business and obviously its profitability.

Speaker 7

Got it. And just as a follow-up, Barak, on the customer engagement side, what are you hearing or seeing from customers with the desire to migrate within the base or even net new kind of customers given conversations around return on investments in this space can be a year or more. Are you seeing any sort of pause just as customers kind of hold their budgets a little bit tighter? Or are you starting to see those migrations to cloud really pick up and we're now at an inflection point?

Operator

I don't see customer debating or questioning whether they need to move to the cloud. That's no longer happening. That belongs to several years ago. Today, it's all about, yes, they want to move to the cloud. As you go to the larger enterprises, that shift is not a one day thing.

Operator

It takes time. It's pretty complicated. They need to select a vendor or a partner that they can actually manage this transformation. Eventually, CX is a highly complicated environment with a lot of integration, a lot of legacy processes. And when you go to the large enterprises, when we lend them, we like very much to lend them because as Beth mentioned before, when those enterprises sign up with us, they stay for many, many years, sometimes decades and they expand with us.

Operator

The ramp takes time. It takes time not on us, but most like most in most cases, it takes time on the enterprise side. But when it happens, it happens for the long run. So we don't see a delay in desire to move to the cloud. It's more of a delay on how fast they can start the project and ramp up the deployment.

Operator

And the second reason why there is desire to do that, they understand they need to move to the cloud in order to really benefit from AI. And as they choose their AI, they choose the right platform. And if they choose the right platform, they want to have the right cloud provider. So it's all tied together. And I think that our increasing win rates and market share expansion speaks to that.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tim Horan with Oppenheimer and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Operator

Thanks guys. Can you give us maybe

Speaker 8

a little bit more color on how the bookings look this quarter maybe versus last year? Are we 10% above, 20% above? And same thing for implementations. Can you is it taking like 10%, 20% longer to implement these large contracts? Or any type of color there?

Speaker 8

And then lastly, well, and then I had a follow-up. Thanks.

Operator

So I'll start with these 2. First of all, as we've mentioned, Q2 bookings were extremely strong and specifically CXone booking was at all time high compared to every quarter that we've seen before and in a significant way. I can also share with you that this was not just a one off phenomena as we stand here in the middle of Q3 and although Q2 was so strong, even the booking for the 1st 6 months 6 weeks, I'm sorry, or the 1st month and a half of Q3 are also very strong across the board and also for CXone. So that's what we see right now in the bookings and those bookings eventually will convert into revenues either later this year or most likely next year. With respect to the conversion from booking to revenue, as we've mentioned before, sometimes it takes longer as we win those very large deals.

Operator

They will guarantee revenue for the long run, but the ramp takes a bit longer than winning a smaller customer. But the beauty is, as we said, the opportunity for cross sell and larger customer also tend to be much more sticky due to the notion of integration and how embedded the platform is with larger customers.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Maybe just on AI, can you talk about how rapidly the product is improving, how much innovation you're seeing? And what's changing in the payback period for the customers? Any kind of productivity improvements that the customers are experiencing or quality improvements would be great?

Operator

Yes. Thanks for that. I will say, I've been in the tech sector for 25 years or more, And I've seen past technological waves all the way from proprietary, hardware, software, Internet, mobile, cloud, etcetera. And I haven't experienced in my career any technology that shift from ideation to production and adoption so fast as AI. This is the cycle is so fast.

Operator

And I will separate between two things that I see right now. The early days of AI, let's talk about a year ago, we've seen very specific use cases converting form ideation to adoption extremely fast. I'll give you one example. We launched, if I'm not mistaken, it was October of last year, auto summary. Auto summary done by AI, specialized in CX.

Operator

It was launched in October of last year. Today, we have more than 80 customers and growing that have adopted either purchase or adopt the order summary as you see the immediate value. So this is a very specific use case, great use case, great ROI, immediate ROI in that. But what I see right now, which I believe will be the trend moving forward, is a broader adoption of what I call functional AI for the purpose of customer service. This comes out of the early trials of customers trying to just take generic GenAI and disappointment with that.

Operator

And then of course, they come to us to understand how the value, the relevant proprietary data, the integration to workflows, the ability to work at scale and the functional AI with deep domain expertise. And over there, the speed of innovation and how much we are investing by the way is just staggering.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Walravens with Citizens JMP. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you. And we congratulate you on the results this quarter. So Barak Scott seems like an amazing hire. Could you walk us through how the search process unfolded?

Speaker 4

And then what is it exactly about Scott that made him rise to the top for you, the Board and the search committee?

Operator

We're happy to do that. So as soon as I announced my desire to step down in mid May, the Board immediately hired an executive search firm, a very good one, Spencer Stuart, and immediately started the search. They have defined what are the critical criteria for the next leader of NICE and they've done a very extensive and a very thorough search interviewing and looking for multiple candidate. And Scott definitely came up on top with his vast experience in enterprise software coming from a company that operated scale as NICE would like to scale further and can and should and will scale further. His global experience, he's based in New Jersey, but in his past career, he's seen different markets.

Operator

And the fact that he also spearheaded a transformation of the company to the cloud, All of those classes, personality, the cultural fit were part of the decision criteria for the Board of Director. And eventually, they have decided to go with Scott. And we're very happy to give him a warm welcome into NICE starting January 1, as he'll start and take over the world for me.

Speaker 4

Yes, congratulations. And if I could ask a follow-up, Beth, you mentioned that APAC was down. Todd, I see as Australian. What's going on in APAC? And is it something that he can help with?

Speaker 3

So APAC had, from a bookings perspective, probably the best quarter ever in terms of bookings. We had this, as I mentioned, dollars 100,000,000 TCV deal that originated out of our APAC region, so very strong quarter performance. With respect to what you see in the revenue, it's really an apples to oranges comparison. The cloud growth in APAC is continuing to pick up. It's in the double digits and it looks very nice.

Speaker 3

The comparison to the prior year was that they had some large premise based deals last year where they took the revenue immediately into their revenue stream. So really across both our business segments and all our regions, we're moving more and more towards higher recurring revenue, more linearity. Of course, you will see some continued variability in FCC in some of the regions as they make that transition, as they still are early days in terms of penetration to the cloud, but good things happening. So a little bit masked by the apples to oranges comparison in APAC, but really a strong quarter there under the covers.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rishi Jaluria with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Wonderful. Thanks so much for taking my questions. Maybe I want to start diving a little bit deeper on to the AI front. When we think about your customers who are live and using, especially generative AI today, can you maybe talk about how much of that is internal, which would include use cases like call logging and summarization versus anything external or actually customer facing? And then I have a follow-up.

Operator

Yes, great question. I'm not sure I have the exact mix in the top of my head, but if I look on both Q2 booking and Q1, I would say that it's half half. I would say that most of our customers going back to the offering of CoPilot and Autopilot, if you think about CoPilot, it's the augmentation of the users. So you can argue that it's more for internal use, right, to make the user 10 times better and very effective as the interactive consumer. And autopilot is what happens when you take AI, you take the agent out of the equation and it is the entity that communicates with the customer.

Operator

I would say that's about half half and most of our customers that adopt CoPilot eventually add Autopilot because then they gain confidence and some of them actually right out of the gate goes both.

Speaker 9

Got it. That's really helpful, Burak. Thanks. And then maybe just a question on margin. So it looks like you're bringing up your cash flow expectations from the Analyst Day, which is great to see.

Speaker 9

Maybe just wanted to understand kind of how you're thinking about the balance of bringing up margins when you're investing for this Gen AI opportunity? And maybe alongside that, as Gen AI starts to become a bigger piece of the business and maybe more directly monetizable, how should we be thinking about the potential drag on gross margins? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks. It's an excellent question. I'll take the AI piece first, which is to say that over the last several years, we've really pivoted our business and in particular our development teams to be focused on AI solutions and you can see that success playing out in the selling that we're doing to our customers. So we've already made significant investments.

Speaker 3

We'll continue to do so in terms of where we prioritize our internal focus and how we spend in the company. And in terms of how that will play out in the margins, I think, 1st of all, you're seeing that a little bit from the cloud gross margin. It's been a bit on the flattish side. And while we are highly confident you'll see that continue to accelerate over the medium term, I think in the near term, we've made a lot of investments. In terms of the cloud margin, a lot of that is focused on some of the growth factors that I talked about earlier as well.

Speaker 3

So growth in Sovereign Cloud as we're building out and penetrating more internationally as an example. That all being said, when you put it together, I mean, we have great operating leverage in our business and you can see that play out consistently quarter after quarter. We're very proud of the fact that if you put us up to some of the nearest competitors across all our financial metrics, our cloud growth, our gross margins, our operating margins, our cash flow generations, we're leaps and bounds ahead of the other players in the market. And it's just an area that we continue to focus on. I think you see that playing out in the cash flows.

Speaker 3

And if you look at the operating expenses as well, I think we are we show a very healthy, pretty consistent overall investment that we're making in those areas around R and D and while at the same time continuing to add and grow our sales organization. So again, it really comes down to I think a very laser focused approach that we have here in the company in terms of prioritization of spend, while in parallel really looking to that operation or operational leverage to continue to expand profitability.

Speaker 9

All right. Wonderful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Wong with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 10

Hi, this is Siti Panigray. Thanks for taking my question. It's really impressive to see the bookings strength in this macro environment. So the question I have and Bharat, you mentioned about AI is one of the factor driving this cloud migration. So the question is, are customer looking at your AI solution that's better than others that's driving this CX platform adoption or they're looking at 1st CX platform and then AI is an add on at this point?

Speaker 10

And also in the same context, are you seeing the cloud migration trend differently between SMB and AnupRegis?

Operator

Yes. So for the first question, it's obviously the combination of the 2 and the 2 are very tied together. We have superiority, we believe both in the best platform, the most comprehensive and complete in our industry and it's a true natively built platform in the cloud with all the different solution, workflow, touch points and of course the data repository that we have. And this is an environment, this is if you would like the right place where AI can actually flourish without the right platform. AI just doesn't work.

Operator

So I think that after 2 years or year and a half or 3, a lot of enterprises testing and understanding what AI can do, there is a much more mature understanding of enterprises generally that it doesn't just to take a point solution of AI won't do the job and you actually need to for a specific function adopt a platform for that shared domain and leverage it in order to do AI. So it's the combination of the 2, both they chose us both because of the AI solutions we have as well as because of the platform. And I'm sorry, the second question was?

Speaker 10

Any trends between SMB versus enterprise in terms of cloud migration?

Operator

Not a trend, but obviously, cloud is the cloud penetration is it's still at, I would say, relatively early stages in the large enterprises and more advanced in the SMB. So there is still room to grow in the SMB and it's not saturated yet. But the biggest opportunity obviously is at the enterprise.

Speaker 10

Great. And quick follow-up, Beth, great job on cash flow. Was there anything like one time thing driving Q2 or is that the trend we should expect going forward?

Speaker 3

So in overall, I think you can expect a continued very healthy year in cash flow. And I updated on the call that we now are expecting more than $700,000,000 to be generated in free cash flow this year, which is up a significant amount even from just a few months ago. So you will see that our business from a cash flow generation is not equally distributed. We still have some remnants of our maintenance customers and our on premise based term based customers that still pay annually in advance. So you still typically see that that's coming in kind of the first half and particularly usually Q1.

Speaker 3

So you won't see the same level of quarterly distribution that you see on P and L. But again, continued very healthy and really strong performance for the full year expected with that $700,000,000 which is nearly close to 50% year over year increase.

Speaker 10

Thank you. Congrats, Alicia.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Perfect. Thank you. Bharat, for you, I think I heard 100% plus bookings growth in autopilot and copilot, which is obviously very strong. Can you talk a little bit about where you're seeing the early adoption? Are there specific verticals that are leading the way?

Speaker 7

And then I think Beth mentioned there's more up selling cross sell. So I'd love to hear what the adoption of Copilot and Autopilot looks like between existing customers and new deals as well.

Operator

So I'll start with the second part. I think it's about half, half between existing customers and new customers. A lot of our new deals are coming with AI, different parts of the AI. As I've mentioned before, CoPilot is the big thing where customers are usually starting with because they feel a bit more confident to put AI next to their employees and see it working before they actually put it in the hands of their consumers. But very fast after that, they move into taking very specific tasks and automate them with AI hands using the autopilot.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then the win rates seem to be strong and improving. What are you seeing in the competitive landscape? Where are others falling short? And we had Microsoft announced an offering in the space.

Speaker 7

I'm curious if that's coming up at all with customers or something they're considering at this point or if it's too early to tell right now?

Operator

So generally in the competitive the real competitive landscape, we feel that we are winning more. I think from what we see from other competitors versus our performance, it seems that we are taking market share. We also see it in the field and the different deals. I think that the main reason for that is our long term investments in doing the right things in terms of the architecture and the solution as we go to those larger enterprises. I think the competition just doesn't have what it takes in terms of both scalability as well as richness in the overall offering that they have in their platform.

Operator

With respect to Microsoft, I know it got a lot of headlines. I must say we see 0 activity in the field. We had partnership with Microsoft. We don't see their go to market effective. They don't have the domain expertise to speak about CX.

Operator

I think a great example is they have a CRM offering Dynamics with barely 5% or less than that market share. So if they were not successful with Dynamics, I'm not sure that they can be successful with what we do, which is way more complicated that requires way more domain expertise.

Speaker 7

All right. Very helpful. Thank you and congrats.

Operator

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Catharine Trebnick with Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you for taking my question. Nice quarter. I have a question on the macro. You reaffirmed your revenue guide for the year, but could you piece in or give more details?

Speaker 3

Are you seeing any of the deal cycles elongated because people are looking at AI and trying to understand where they're going to pace in AI? And then is there any impact from more eyeballs looking at these deals? So are you seeing any things that make you want to be a little bit more pragmatic in your guide? Thank you.

Operator

No, I don't see a change in the macro to what we've seen, let's say, a year ago. I think that the adoption of tech by enterprises is still a necessity for them to run the business. And of course, all our businesses were mission critical and the drivers behind our business are not really changing whether the macro is doing better or worse. Completely related and I don't think it relate directly to the macro, when you sell to large enterprises in what we do, those are lengthy processes. But when the enterprise adopt us, whether they adopt us in day 1 to do or to be the standards throughout the entire enterprise or just part of it, that's a lengthy process to begin with regardless of the macro.

Operator

So we are always if you think about our guidance in the past, we are not that type of company that come with very low guide and then that is completely ridiculous and then we beat it and we say that we beat it. We know what you are seeing at the beginning of the year. We are very responsible with our guidance and then we come and execute according to that.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Alab for any final comments.

Operator

Thank you all for joining us and have a great day. Thank

Speaker 4

you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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Key Takeaways

  • Company announced a leadership transition with Scott Russell appointed as CEO starting January 2025, while current CEO Barak Elbaz will lead through year-end to ensure a smooth handover.
  • Second-quarter revenue of $664 million rose 14% year-over-year, driven by 26% cloud growth to $482 million, with operating income up 19% to $202 million and adjusted EPS of $2.64 (+24%).
  • Bookings for the CXone cloud platform hit an all-time high, led by large enterprise and portfolio deals—up 71% year-over-year—with multiple seven- and eight-figure contracts signed this quarter.
  • AI solutions continue to gain traction: AI revenues surged 38%, bookings for Autopilot and CoPilot climbed 134%, and million-dollar AI deals doubled versus last year as customers shift to NICE’s functional AI for customer service.
  • Strong cash generation underpins financial flexibility—Q2 operating cash flow rose 160% to $170 million, 12-month free cash flow reached $639 million, and $146 million in shares were repurchased, with free cash flow guidance raised to over $700 million for 2024.
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