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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Wheaton Precious Metals EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.33Consensus EPS $0.29Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPS$0.31Wheaton Precious Metals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$299.06 millionExpected Revenue$309.54 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$10.48 millionYoY Revenue Growth+12.90%Wheaton Precious Metals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/7/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 8, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsWheaton Precious Metals' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, August 6, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Wheaton Precious Metals Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Wheaton generated $234 M in Q2 operating cash flow and a record $450 M in H1, ending the quarter with $540 M cash plus a $2 B undrawn facility. YTD production of 305 k GEOs keeps the company on track for its 550 k–620 k GEO guidance, with an industry-leading ~40% growth forecast to over 800 k GEOs by 2028. The retroactive 15% global minimum tax was applied from Jan 1, loading a $51 M tax expense in H1 and adding ongoing tax costs to earnings. The corporate development team is evaluating multiple streaming deals in the $100 M–700 M range, supported by strong market appetite and the company’s funding flexibility. Salobo production rose 23% YoY in Q2 despite a 31-day outage at Salobo III, with Vale maintaining full-year guidance and minimal impact expected. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallWheaton Precious Metals Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Wheaton Precious Metals' 2024 second quarter results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad, or you may type in your questions in the Q&A box of the webinar. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by the number two. Thank you. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on Thursday, August 8th, 2024, at 8:00AM Eastern Time. I will now turn the conference over to Emma Murray, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Emma MurrayVP of Investor Relations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:00:49Thank you, operator. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for participating in today's call. I'm joined today by Randy Smallwood, Wheaton Precious Metals President and Chief Executive Officer, Gary Brown, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Haytham Hodaly, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development, and Wes Carson, Vice President, Mining Operations. Please note that for those not currently on the webcast, a slide presentation accompanying this conference call is available in PDF format on the presentations page of our website. Some of the commentary in today's call may contain forward-looking statements, and I would direct everyone to review slide two of the presentation, which contains important cautionary notes regarding forward-looking statements. It should be noted that all figures referred to on today's call are in U.S. dollars, unless otherwise noted. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Randy Smallwood, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:01:37Thank you, Emma, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Wheaton's second quarter results of 2024. I am pleased to announce that our portfolio of long-life, low-cost assets has delivered another solid quarter, generating $234 million in operating cash flows, resulting in record cash flows of over $450 million for the first half of this year. This performance underscores the effectiveness of our business model in leveraging rising commodity prices while maintaining strong margins. The company has produced over 305,000 gold equivalent ounces year to date, and we are well on track to achieve our 2024 production guidance of 550,000-620,000 gold equivalent ounces. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:02:28The company also remains very liquid, with $540 million in cash at our quarter end and a $2 billion undrawn revolving credit facility, which, when coupled with the strength of our forecasted operating cash flows, provides strong flexibility to fund all outstanding commitments, as well as the capacity to acquire additional accretive mineral stream interests. Our corporate development team remains actively engaged in evaluating new opportunities and may continue to see a healthy appetite for streaming as a source of capital for the mining industry. In addition, during the quarter, we published our annual sustainability and climate change reports, and we are proud to have been ranked among the top 10 in Corporate Knights' 50 Best Corporate Citizens in Canada for 2024. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:03:24As the founders and architects of sustainable streaming, this accomplishment is reflective of our commitment to operating responsibly in all facets of our business. Our performance in the first half of 2024 supports our belief that the strength of our organic growth profile, combined with favorable commodity price trends, firmly positions Wheaton as the premier choice for high quality, long life, precious metals exposure. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Wes Carson, our Vice President of Operations, who will provide more details on our operating results. Wes? Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:04:05Thanks, Randy, and good morning. Overall production in the second quarter came in higher than expected, driven by strong outperformances at Salobo, Peñasquito, and Antamina. In the second quarter of 2024, Salobo produced 63,200 ounces of attributable gold, an increase of approximately 23% relative to the second quarter of 2023, driven primarily by higher throughput. Salobo's strong production in Q2 is attributable primarily to the continued ramp-up of the Salobo III expansion and sustained overall improvements at both Salobo I and II. On June seventeenth, Vale reported a conveyor fire at Salobo III, and on July twenty-fifth, they announced that plant operations at Salobo III had resumed after a 31-day repair period. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:04:52Vale has maintained their copper guidance for the year, and we anticipate that any impacts to Wheaton's guidance will be minimal and offset by outperformance in the first half of the year. In the second quarter of 2024, Constancia produced 450,000 ounces of attributable silver and 6,100 ounces of attributable gold, an increase of approximately 7% and a decrease of 18% respectively, relative to the second quarter of 2023. The decrease in gold production was primarily the result of lower grades due to planned stripping activity in the Papacancha pit, which commenced in the second quarter and is expected to continue through the third quarter of 2024. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:05:32Hudbay has reported that mill ore feed has now reverted to the typical blend of approximately one-third from Papacancha and two-thirds from Constancia, which is expected to continue throughout 2024. In the second quarter of 2024, Peñasquito produced 2.3 million ounces of attributable silver, an increase of approximately 30% relative to the second quarter of 2023, primarily due to higher throughput, partially offset by slightly lower grades. Production in the second quarter continued to focus on mining in the Chile Colorado pit, which contains higher silver, lead and zinc metal and silver grades than the main Peñasquito or Peñasquito Pit. Grades are expected to decrease slightly in the back half of the year as mining moves back into the Peñasquito Pit. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:06:19On July 31st, 2024, Ivanhoe reported that construction of Platreef's phase one concentrator was completed on schedule subsequent to the quarter. Cold commissioning has started, with water being fed through the concentrator and construction of Platreef shaft to head gear at approximately 60% complete. An updated independent feasibility study on an optimized development plan for the acceleration of phase two is planned to be completed and published in the fourth quarter of 2024. In addition, a preliminary economic assessment on the phase three expansion is expected to be completed at the same time, with the expansion forecast to increase Platreef's processing capacity up to approximately 10 million tons per annum. A phase three expansion to 10 million tons processing capacity is expected to rank Platreef as one of the world's largest platinum group metal, nickel, copper, and gold producers. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:07:12As mentioned by Randy, with over 305,000 ounces produced year to date, the company remains well on track to achieve our annual production guidance this year. We've estimated attributable production in 2024 continues to be forecast at 325,000 ounces-370,000 ounces of gold, 18.5 million ounces-20 million ounces of silver, and 12,000 ounces-15,000 ounces of our GEOs of other metals, resulting in an overall production of approximately 550,000-620,000 GEOs. Production is forecast to increase at an industry-leading rate of approximately 40% to over 800,000 ounces by 2028, primarily due to growth from operating assets, including Salobo, Antamina, Peñasquito, Moisés Bay, and Marmato. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:08:00Development projects which are in construction and/or permitted, including Blackwater, Platreef, Goose, Mineral Park, Phoenix, Crippa, and Santo Domingo, and pre-development projects, including Marathon and Copper World, from which production is anticipated towards the latter end of the five-year forecast period. From 2029 to 2033, attributable production is forecast to average over 850,000 ounces of gold equivalent ounces annually for the five-year period. And that concludes the operational review. And with that, I will turn the call over to Gary. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:08:36Thank you, Wes. As described by Wes, production in the second quarter amounted to 147,000 GEOs, a 7% increase relative to the comparable period of the prior year, with higher production from Salobo, Zinkgruvan, and Peñasquito being offset by lower production from San Dimas and Constancia, combined with the cessation of production from Aljustrel and Minto. Sales volumes amounted to 124,000 GEOs, a 4% decrease relative to the comparable period of the prior year, primarily due to timing of sales resulting from the relative changes in ounces produced but not yet delivered, or PBND, which resulted in a reduction in sales volumes relative to Q2 2023 of over 23,000 GEOs. Strong commodity prices, coupled with our solid production base, resulted in revenue increasing by 13% to $299 million relative to Q2 2023. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:09:45Of this revenue, 61% was attributable to gold, 37% to silver, 1% to palladium, and 1% to cobalt. As at June 30, 2024, approximately 128,000 GEOs were in PBND, representing approximately 2.9 months of payable production, a slight increase from the preceding four quarters due to relative differences in timing of sales, but within our guided range of 2-3 months. G&A expenses amounted to $10 million for the second quarter, and the company continues to anticipate that G&A will total $41 million-$45 million for the year, with these figures excluding share-based compensation, as well as donations and community investments. On June 20, 2024, Canada's Global Minimum Tax Act, or GMTA, received royal assent, and as such, the income from our Cayman Islands subsidiaries will be subject to a 15% minimum tax. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:10:52As we previously messaged, as the global minimum tax is retroactive to January 1, 2024, the company has recorded two quarters' worth of global minimum tax amounting to $51 million in its financial statements for the period ending June 30, 2024, with $25 million relating to Q1 2024. Going forward, the quarterly tax expense associated with GMT will be recognized in our consolidated financial statements in the appropriate reporting period. Removing the GMT associated with the Q1 2024 earnings and other smaller items, adjusted net earnings amounted to $150 million, with the $7 million increase from the prior year due primarily to the higher gross margin, partially offset by the higher income tax expense relative to the global minimum tax. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:11:53I believe it is worth pausing here to emphasize that we were able to generate higher adjusted earnings despite the implementation of a 15% global minimum tax. Quite remarkable. Wheaton continued to deliver robust cash operating margins in the second quarter, resulting in cash flow from operations of $234 million, with a $32 million increase from the prior year, due primarily to higher gross margins. As mentioned by Randy, the strength of our second quarter cash flows resulted in cash flows for the first half of the year of over $450 million, representing a new record for Wheaton. Lastly, we declared a quarterly dividend of $0.155 per share, a 3% increase from the prior year. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:12:44During the quarter, Wheaton made total upfront cash payments of approximately $45 million, $25 million of which was relative to the Mineral Park Stream, and $10 million of which was relative to the Cangrejos Stream, with the remaining $10 million relating to the Mount Todd royalty. Additionally, the company made 2 dividend payments totaling $139 million, and disposed of its investment in Hecla Mining Company for gross proceeds of $177 million. When coupled with cash generated from operating activities, our overall net cash inflows amounted to $234 million in the second quarter of 2024, resulting in cash and cash equivalents at June 30 of $540 million. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:13:38We believe this cash balance, combined with the strength of our forecasted operating cash flows and the fully undrawn $2 billion revolving credit facility, which was recently extended by an additional year, positions the company exceptionally well to satisfy its funding commitments and provides us with financial flexibility to acquire additional accretive mineral stream interests. That concludes the financial summary, and with that, I will turn the call back over to Randy. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:14:08Thank you, Gary. In closing, we believe Wheaton is well positioned to continue delivering value to all of our stakeholders for a number of different reasons. Firstly, by offering our shareholders exposure to our diversified portfolio of long-life, low-cost assets that we believe has one of the best organic growth profiles in the entire mining industry. Secondly, by continuing to generate strong operating cash flows and maintaining low, predictable costs, which, when coupled with our leverage to increase commodity prices, result in some of the highest margins in the precious metal space. Thirdly, a pipeline of significantly de-risked development projects, which further supports our impressive organic growth profile of over 40% by 2028. And lastly, our commitment to sustainability and supporting our partners and the communities in which we live and operate. So with that, I would like to open the call up for questions, operator. Operator00:15:16Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the star followed by the number two. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Richard Hatch with Berenberg. Please go ahead. Richard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at Berenberg00:15:46Thanks very much. Yeah, morning, Randy and team, and thanks for the call. Just wonder if you might help us a bit with Salobo. Clearly a better quarter, which is really good to see. But just wonder if you might be able to help us a bit as we look out into 2025, 2026. You able to give us kind of broad expectations of, you know, grade and such like? I know it's one that's kind of sometimes a bit challenging, but any kind of color there would be super helpful. That's the first one. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:16:15I'll let Wes take that one off. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:16:16Yeah, perfect. Sure. Thanks for the question, Richard. So we are starting to see a slight drop off in grades over the next couple of years, so into 25, 26. But with that, we're also seeing that the ramp-up of Salobo III and really an increase in throughput there. So over the next few years, we do expect a slight increase in production, and we'll see that continue really as Salobo III really comes online and comes together. So for the rest of this year, I mean, we see that kind of flattening of the production, and then as the throughput comes up on Salobo III, we'll see a better year next year, I think, and then into the next couple of years. Richard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at Berenberg00:16:56Okay. That's really helpful. Thanks. Then just on the business development, kind of piece, perhaps for Randy and Haytham. You know, can you just talk a bit about what kind of deals you're seeing at the moment? It feels like the diversifiers have got strong balance sheets, not necessarily looking for, for large sort of ticket, sort of, transactions at this point, but maybe as we go into the next sort of copper cycle, that opportunity might present itself. But, you know, just as, as you're looking down the list of your current BD opportunities, are we still kind of mainly focusing on those, gold producers and, and, and such like, you know, in the mid sort of few, few $100 million ranges? Or are we seeing something, you know, a bit, bit more large scale than, and such like? That'd be helpful. Thanks. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:17:40I'll let Haytham answer that one. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:17:42Thanks for the question, Richard. To put it simply, you know, we've got a number of opportunities that we're actually advancing through the due diligence phase right now. I would say development stage funding is still the focus, although we are seeing a resurgence in some balance sheet strengthening opportunities. The majority of the opportunities we're seeing, it's probably 50/50 between polymetallic opportunities, which have a precious metal byproducts, and actually precious metals companies that have very, very strong margins that are looking for, for continued growth. So it's a very robust market. I would say the majority of the opportunities fall somewhere between you know, $100 million-$700 million in that range, with a couple of those being north of $500 million. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:18:21Yeah, I would say, just to add to that, that it's the deal size, the opportunity size seems to be a little bit bigger than what we've seen in say the last year. There seems to be a little bit more of an appetite, and a lot of these projects are actually a lot closer to you know the production or the construction stage and production. So you know I think overall it actually looks a little bit healthier. But it's still very busy on that front. Richard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at Berenberg00:18:47Okay, very helpful. Thanks a lot for your time. Cheers, Haytham. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:18:50Thank you, Richard. Operator00:18:55Your next question comes from the line of Martin Pradier with the Veritas Investment Research. Please go ahead. Martin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment Research00:19:05Thank you. If gold production in second half is similar to first half, you would hit at least the middle of your guidance range for gold and exceed the upper end of the guidance for silver. So the question is: Is gold production expected to be weaker or stronger in the second half versus the first half? And in terms of silver production, if you expect a weaker second half versus first half? Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:19:33I'll let Wes add some color to that. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:19:35Sure. So right now, Martin, we're looking at probably a split of about 52% in the first half of the year and 48% in the second half of the year on an overall basis. We are expecting a weakening in the gold production at Salobo, with some of the impacts from the fire and really just a lower grade, particularly in the fourth quarter. And then we are, as mentioned on Peñasquito, on the silver side, seeing that drop as they move back into the Peñasquito pit. So overall, as I said, about that kind of 52, 48 is about what we're expecting for the rest of this year. Martin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment Research00:20:14Okay, great. And in terms of Salobo, is the impact of the fire expected to be around 10,000 ounces in terms of production? Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:20:27It will be in that range, I would say. We're hoping lower than that, certainly, because they did get things back up and running fairly quickly. It wasn't one of the major conveyors and really just affected the third line. So Salobo I and II were running through that period. And also, during that period, they had some planned maintenance shutdowns during that period as well. So we haven't seen the full results of it yet, but that's, yeah, in the range, hopefully slightly better than that. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:20:52You know, I think it might be worth, you know, just talking about the fact that Salobo outperformed a bit in the first half of this year. And I think that fire probably consumed up some of that outperformance. And so from an overall annual basis, it's probably net neutral. But you know, that outperformance, as I said, was probably eaten up a little bit by the impact of the fire. Martin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment Research00:21:16Great. Thank you. Operator00:21:22Once again, if you would like to ask a question, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:21:37Oh, good. It's me. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just wanted to come back just on, on the guidance. Thank you for the 52, 48. But with all these little moving parts in the second half, just want to confirm, I think previously we were looking for fairly even Q3 equal to Q4. Should that? Is that something how we should be thinking about, given the fire and some of the other grade movements? Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:05Go ahead, Wes. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:06Yep. Sure. Yeah, I would say that is correct. It will be fairly even. I mean, there's a lot of moving parts, as you say, between the quarters there, but it is fairly even between Q3 and Q4. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:19I think the impacts of the fire are gonna hit Q3, and then we have definitely lower grades scheduled into Q4. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:26Yeah. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:27And so, it's probably gonna split it pretty evenly there as well. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:30Yeah. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:31Okay. Well, let's thank you for that. And I just wanted to ask Gary, the DD&A forecast for the year. Usually, we get that in August in terms of depreciation. And sorry, maybe in your information provided there, we just had a number of companies report last night. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:50Sorry, the question was with respect to what we expect, G&A to be? Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:55Depreciation. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:55No, depreciation. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:56Depreciation. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:57DD&A. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:58Depreciation. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:58Sorry. Depreciation. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:23:01Yeah. I mean, Tanya, we provide asset-by-asset depletion numbers in the MD&A. You know, I would suggest looking at what we depleted for Q2, as you know, an indication of what our per ounce depletion will be by asset. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:23:29Okay. All right. So Q2 is the benchmark going forward. Thank you for that. And then can I just ask, Haytham, just coming back to you on these transactions and opportunities that are out there, and interesting that we have the $100 million-$700 million, you know, a couple over $500 million, and you mentioned in sort of the early development stage or early construction. How does platinum palladium fit in right now, given their weak prices? Are those opportunities you're looking at in addition to the gold side, gold, silver? Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:24:05I would say even on... You're right, PGMs, given where PGM prices have gone, there's probably a few opportunities in there that we're also looking at. I would say that we're still looking at the gold components of the PGM typically, if we're looking at anything else outside of the gold, it's, you know, maybe it's platinum, and only to top up if they need more capital than the gold could provide them. But, you know, we're seeing not just the PGM opportunities, but obviously we're seeing some gold opportunities, so people trying to capitalize on the strong commodity price to try and get some additional funding. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:24:39Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. Then where would the corporate transaction fit in as you look at the space? Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:24:49So we'll always consider looking at our peers and seeing what if and when it makes sense for us to actually make any type of corporate transaction. I will say that at this point in time, it doesn't make sense to pay a premium on a multiple when I can still purchase streams at or below net asset value. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:25:11Yeah, no, I agree. And just as you look at the environment, I mean, I'm gonna, you know, I always hear everyone say there's so much out there, there's so much out there. Maybe just give us an idea from like, you know, a timing perspective, because as I said, I've heard so many comments on this, so many deals out there. Like, you know, how long do these deals take to actually do? Like, from the time you actually say, "Okay, we, you know, we're working on something," to actually do your due diligence. I know it's, you know, moment by moment, each one has, you know, a different timeframe, but just so that we can understand from the moment you're saying you're seeing so much to actually completing some of these things, so that we can kind of understand the process. Thank you. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:25:54Sure. Sure, Tanya. I'm happy, happy to answer as well. So, generally speaking, if an opportunity depends on whether we're being proactive or reactive. Most of the time, we're proactive, going out there, looking at opportunities. Probably, I'd say 20% or 30% of the time right now, we're being reactive to opportunities coming in the door. Once an opportunity comes in the door, it takes us usually a couple of weeks to actually do our first pass models, just to see if it actually makes sense to put a stream on it. If we do that and we find that the asset can actually handle, the margins are solid, the asset can handle the stream, we'll do a deep dive, and that usually takes another couple of weeks. We'll somewhere along the way, we'll put out an indication of value. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:26:34We will assuming the indication of value is interesting to the counterparty, then we'll head to site. At the same time, we'll start working on term sheets, and once we typically conclude term sheets, we look to for exclusivity. Once that exclusivity is obtained, usually takes about another four weeks to get definitive in place. So you're talking from start to finish, anywhere from, I'd say, six to eight weeks is a typical timeline for a stream. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:27:03Okay, thank you for that. I actually thought it was longer, but thank you for that. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:27:09Sometimes it takes longer, but usually it has to do with database issues and stuff like that. It's always, you know, a matter of having to make sure that we're getting good information in when we're assessing these projects, and so sometimes that does drag out a bit. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:27:24Okay. So about two months would be something that, you know, we should kind of think about? Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:27:29Yeah. I mean, if you ask our lawyers, they'd rather we said three, but, you know, we've done it in four weeks, and it's taken as long as three months. So yeah, it's probably a good average. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:27:39Okay. Thank you for the call, for the caller. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:27:43Pleasure, Tammy. Operator00:27:50Your next question comes from the line of Ralph Profiti with Eight Capital. Please go ahead. Ralph ProfitiPrincipal Equity Research Analyst at Eight Capital00:27:57Thanks, operator. Just one question from me. I did see some rephasing of the Santo Domingo upfront payment that came with the updated feasibility study. And I'm just wondering, where does that upfront stream payment rank in sort of the project capital spending? Is it sort of pari passu with the project financing, or is it on project sanctioning? Just wondering how that works. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:25That money goes in ahead of debt, and so it's in the earlier part of the construction phase. They have to commence construction and move forward, but it does go in to the ground before any project debt goes, gets applied to it. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:37With that being said, they have to ensure that the full funding package is in place and arranged before we would actually provide any capital. Ralph ProfitiPrincipal Equity Research Analyst at Eight Capital00:28:46Understood. Gotcha. Thanks for that. Appreciate it. Thanks, Randy. Thanks, Haytham. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:50Yep. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:53Well, thank you everyone for, for your time today. We are pleased to have reported a strong first half of the year. Wheaton's high-quality portfolio of assets, sector leading growth profile, and commitment to sustainability provides all of our shareholders, all of our stakeholders, with a solid outlook for the future and what we believe to be one of the best vehicles for investing into the gold and precious metal space. And as we celebrate our twentieth anniversary throughout 2024, I am sincerely thankful to all of our stakeholders for being part of Wheaton's success, and I look forward to a golden future together. We look forward to speaking with you all again soon. Thank you. Operator00:29:44Thank you, presenters. This concludes this conference call for today. Thank you for participating. 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Rather than operating mines, Wheaton provides upfront and ongoing financing to miners in exchange for the right to purchase a portion of the metals produced — typically silver and gold, and occasionally other precious metals — at predetermined prices. This streaming business model offers investors exposure to metal production with reduced operating and capital-cost risk compared with traditional mining companies. The company’s activities center on structuring and maintaining a diversified portfolio of streaming agreements across multiple jurisdictions. Wheaton’s streams entitle it to receive physical deliveries of metal or the cash equivalent under contract terms, and the company works with a range of producing and development-stage mining operations to secure these streams. Its portfolio spans a variety of geographies where precious metals are mined, providing exposure to different mines, ore types and regional operating environments without direct ownership or responsibility for mine operations. Wheaton Precious Metals was originally founded under the name Silver Wheaton and adopted its current name to reflect a broader focus on precious metals. Headquartered in Vancouver, British Columbia, the company is managed by an experienced executive team and board with expertise in mining finance and metals markets; Randy Smallwood has served as president and chief executive officer. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Wheaton Precious Metals' 2024 second quarter results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad, or you may type in your questions in the Q&A box of the webinar. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by the number two. Thank you. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on Thursday, August 8th, 2024, at 8:00AM Eastern Time. I will now turn the conference over to Emma Murray, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Emma MurrayVP of Investor Relations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:00:49Thank you, operator. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for participating in today's call. I'm joined today by Randy Smallwood, Wheaton Precious Metals President and Chief Executive Officer, Gary Brown, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Haytham Hodaly, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development, and Wes Carson, Vice President, Mining Operations. Please note that for those not currently on the webcast, a slide presentation accompanying this conference call is available in PDF format on the presentations page of our website. Some of the commentary in today's call may contain forward-looking statements, and I would direct everyone to review slide two of the presentation, which contains important cautionary notes regarding forward-looking statements. It should be noted that all figures referred to on today's call are in U.S. dollars, unless otherwise noted. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Randy Smallwood, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:01:37Thank you, Emma, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Wheaton's second quarter results of 2024. I am pleased to announce that our portfolio of long-life, low-cost assets has delivered another solid quarter, generating $234 million in operating cash flows, resulting in record cash flows of over $450 million for the first half of this year. This performance underscores the effectiveness of our business model in leveraging rising commodity prices while maintaining strong margins. The company has produced over 305,000 gold equivalent ounces year to date, and we are well on track to achieve our 2024 production guidance of 550,000-620,000 gold equivalent ounces. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:02:28The company also remains very liquid, with $540 million in cash at our quarter end and a $2 billion undrawn revolving credit facility, which, when coupled with the strength of our forecasted operating cash flows, provides strong flexibility to fund all outstanding commitments, as well as the capacity to acquire additional accretive mineral stream interests. Our corporate development team remains actively engaged in evaluating new opportunities and may continue to see a healthy appetite for streaming as a source of capital for the mining industry. In addition, during the quarter, we published our annual sustainability and climate change reports, and we are proud to have been ranked among the top 10 in Corporate Knights' 50 Best Corporate Citizens in Canada for 2024. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:03:24As the founders and architects of sustainable streaming, this accomplishment is reflective of our commitment to operating responsibly in all facets of our business. Our performance in the first half of 2024 supports our belief that the strength of our organic growth profile, combined with favorable commodity price trends, firmly positions Wheaton as the premier choice for high quality, long life, precious metals exposure. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Wes Carson, our Vice President of Operations, who will provide more details on our operating results. Wes? Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:04:05Thanks, Randy, and good morning. Overall production in the second quarter came in higher than expected, driven by strong outperformances at Salobo, Peñasquito, and Antamina. In the second quarter of 2024, Salobo produced 63,200 ounces of attributable gold, an increase of approximately 23% relative to the second quarter of 2023, driven primarily by higher throughput. Salobo's strong production in Q2 is attributable primarily to the continued ramp-up of the Salobo III expansion and sustained overall improvements at both Salobo I and II. On June seventeenth, Vale reported a conveyor fire at Salobo III, and on July twenty-fifth, they announced that plant operations at Salobo III had resumed after a 31-day repair period. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:04:52Vale has maintained their copper guidance for the year, and we anticipate that any impacts to Wheaton's guidance will be minimal and offset by outperformance in the first half of the year. In the second quarter of 2024, Constancia produced 450,000 ounces of attributable silver and 6,100 ounces of attributable gold, an increase of approximately 7% and a decrease of 18% respectively, relative to the second quarter of 2023. The decrease in gold production was primarily the result of lower grades due to planned stripping activity in the Papacancha pit, which commenced in the second quarter and is expected to continue through the third quarter of 2024. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:05:32Hudbay has reported that mill ore feed has now reverted to the typical blend of approximately one-third from Papacancha and two-thirds from Constancia, which is expected to continue throughout 2024. In the second quarter of 2024, Peñasquito produced 2.3 million ounces of attributable silver, an increase of approximately 30% relative to the second quarter of 2023, primarily due to higher throughput, partially offset by slightly lower grades. Production in the second quarter continued to focus on mining in the Chile Colorado pit, which contains higher silver, lead and zinc metal and silver grades than the main Peñasquito or Peñasquito Pit. Grades are expected to decrease slightly in the back half of the year as mining moves back into the Peñasquito Pit. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:06:19On July 31st, 2024, Ivanhoe reported that construction of Platreef's phase one concentrator was completed on schedule subsequent to the quarter. Cold commissioning has started, with water being fed through the concentrator and construction of Platreef shaft to head gear at approximately 60% complete. An updated independent feasibility study on an optimized development plan for the acceleration of phase two is planned to be completed and published in the fourth quarter of 2024. In addition, a preliminary economic assessment on the phase three expansion is expected to be completed at the same time, with the expansion forecast to increase Platreef's processing capacity up to approximately 10 million tons per annum. A phase three expansion to 10 million tons processing capacity is expected to rank Platreef as one of the world's largest platinum group metal, nickel, copper, and gold producers. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:07:12As mentioned by Randy, with over 305,000 ounces produced year to date, the company remains well on track to achieve our annual production guidance this year. We've estimated attributable production in 2024 continues to be forecast at 325,000 ounces-370,000 ounces of gold, 18.5 million ounces-20 million ounces of silver, and 12,000 ounces-15,000 ounces of our GEOs of other metals, resulting in an overall production of approximately 550,000-620,000 GEOs. Production is forecast to increase at an industry-leading rate of approximately 40% to over 800,000 ounces by 2028, primarily due to growth from operating assets, including Salobo, Antamina, Peñasquito, Moisés Bay, and Marmato. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:08:00Development projects which are in construction and/or permitted, including Blackwater, Platreef, Goose, Mineral Park, Phoenix, Crippa, and Santo Domingo, and pre-development projects, including Marathon and Copper World, from which production is anticipated towards the latter end of the five-year forecast period. From 2029 to 2033, attributable production is forecast to average over 850,000 ounces of gold equivalent ounces annually for the five-year period. And that concludes the operational review. And with that, I will turn the call over to Gary. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:08:36Thank you, Wes. As described by Wes, production in the second quarter amounted to 147,000 GEOs, a 7% increase relative to the comparable period of the prior year, with higher production from Salobo, Zinkgruvan, and Peñasquito being offset by lower production from San Dimas and Constancia, combined with the cessation of production from Aljustrel and Minto. Sales volumes amounted to 124,000 GEOs, a 4% decrease relative to the comparable period of the prior year, primarily due to timing of sales resulting from the relative changes in ounces produced but not yet delivered, or PBND, which resulted in a reduction in sales volumes relative to Q2 2023 of over 23,000 GEOs. Strong commodity prices, coupled with our solid production base, resulted in revenue increasing by 13% to $299 million relative to Q2 2023. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:09:45Of this revenue, 61% was attributable to gold, 37% to silver, 1% to palladium, and 1% to cobalt. As at June 30, 2024, approximately 128,000 GEOs were in PBND, representing approximately 2.9 months of payable production, a slight increase from the preceding four quarters due to relative differences in timing of sales, but within our guided range of 2-3 months. G&A expenses amounted to $10 million for the second quarter, and the company continues to anticipate that G&A will total $41 million-$45 million for the year, with these figures excluding share-based compensation, as well as donations and community investments. On June 20, 2024, Canada's Global Minimum Tax Act, or GMTA, received royal assent, and as such, the income from our Cayman Islands subsidiaries will be subject to a 15% minimum tax. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:10:52As we previously messaged, as the global minimum tax is retroactive to January 1, 2024, the company has recorded two quarters' worth of global minimum tax amounting to $51 million in its financial statements for the period ending June 30, 2024, with $25 million relating to Q1 2024. Going forward, the quarterly tax expense associated with GMT will be recognized in our consolidated financial statements in the appropriate reporting period. Removing the GMT associated with the Q1 2024 earnings and other smaller items, adjusted net earnings amounted to $150 million, with the $7 million increase from the prior year due primarily to the higher gross margin, partially offset by the higher income tax expense relative to the global minimum tax. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:11:53I believe it is worth pausing here to emphasize that we were able to generate higher adjusted earnings despite the implementation of a 15% global minimum tax. Quite remarkable. Wheaton continued to deliver robust cash operating margins in the second quarter, resulting in cash flow from operations of $234 million, with a $32 million increase from the prior year, due primarily to higher gross margins. As mentioned by Randy, the strength of our second quarter cash flows resulted in cash flows for the first half of the year of over $450 million, representing a new record for Wheaton. Lastly, we declared a quarterly dividend of $0.155 per share, a 3% increase from the prior year. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:12:44During the quarter, Wheaton made total upfront cash payments of approximately $45 million, $25 million of which was relative to the Mineral Park Stream, and $10 million of which was relative to the Cangrejos Stream, with the remaining $10 million relating to the Mount Todd royalty. Additionally, the company made 2 dividend payments totaling $139 million, and disposed of its investment in Hecla Mining Company for gross proceeds of $177 million. When coupled with cash generated from operating activities, our overall net cash inflows amounted to $234 million in the second quarter of 2024, resulting in cash and cash equivalents at June 30 of $540 million. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:13:38We believe this cash balance, combined with the strength of our forecasted operating cash flows and the fully undrawn $2 billion revolving credit facility, which was recently extended by an additional year, positions the company exceptionally well to satisfy its funding commitments and provides us with financial flexibility to acquire additional accretive mineral stream interests. That concludes the financial summary, and with that, I will turn the call back over to Randy. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:14:08Thank you, Gary. In closing, we believe Wheaton is well positioned to continue delivering value to all of our stakeholders for a number of different reasons. Firstly, by offering our shareholders exposure to our diversified portfolio of long-life, low-cost assets that we believe has one of the best organic growth profiles in the entire mining industry. Secondly, by continuing to generate strong operating cash flows and maintaining low, predictable costs, which, when coupled with our leverage to increase commodity prices, result in some of the highest margins in the precious metal space. Thirdly, a pipeline of significantly de-risked development projects, which further supports our impressive organic growth profile of over 40% by 2028. And lastly, our commitment to sustainability and supporting our partners and the communities in which we live and operate. So with that, I would like to open the call up for questions, operator. Operator00:15:16Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the star followed by the number two. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Richard Hatch with Berenberg. Please go ahead. Richard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at Berenberg00:15:46Thanks very much. Yeah, morning, Randy and team, and thanks for the call. Just wonder if you might help us a bit with Salobo. Clearly a better quarter, which is really good to see. But just wonder if you might be able to help us a bit as we look out into 2025, 2026. You able to give us kind of broad expectations of, you know, grade and such like? I know it's one that's kind of sometimes a bit challenging, but any kind of color there would be super helpful. That's the first one. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:16:15I'll let Wes take that one off. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:16:16Yeah, perfect. Sure. Thanks for the question, Richard. So we are starting to see a slight drop off in grades over the next couple of years, so into 25, 26. But with that, we're also seeing that the ramp-up of Salobo III and really an increase in throughput there. So over the next few years, we do expect a slight increase in production, and we'll see that continue really as Salobo III really comes online and comes together. So for the rest of this year, I mean, we see that kind of flattening of the production, and then as the throughput comes up on Salobo III, we'll see a better year next year, I think, and then into the next couple of years. Richard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at Berenberg00:16:56Okay. That's really helpful. Thanks. Then just on the business development, kind of piece, perhaps for Randy and Haytham. You know, can you just talk a bit about what kind of deals you're seeing at the moment? It feels like the diversifiers have got strong balance sheets, not necessarily looking for, for large sort of ticket, sort of, transactions at this point, but maybe as we go into the next sort of copper cycle, that opportunity might present itself. But, you know, just as, as you're looking down the list of your current BD opportunities, are we still kind of mainly focusing on those, gold producers and, and, and such like, you know, in the mid sort of few, few $100 million ranges? Or are we seeing something, you know, a bit, bit more large scale than, and such like? That'd be helpful. Thanks. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:17:40I'll let Haytham answer that one. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:17:42Thanks for the question, Richard. To put it simply, you know, we've got a number of opportunities that we're actually advancing through the due diligence phase right now. I would say development stage funding is still the focus, although we are seeing a resurgence in some balance sheet strengthening opportunities. The majority of the opportunities we're seeing, it's probably 50/50 between polymetallic opportunities, which have a precious metal byproducts, and actually precious metals companies that have very, very strong margins that are looking for, for continued growth. So it's a very robust market. I would say the majority of the opportunities fall somewhere between you know, $100 million-$700 million in that range, with a couple of those being north of $500 million. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:18:21Yeah, I would say, just to add to that, that it's the deal size, the opportunity size seems to be a little bit bigger than what we've seen in say the last year. There seems to be a little bit more of an appetite, and a lot of these projects are actually a lot closer to you know the production or the construction stage and production. So you know I think overall it actually looks a little bit healthier. But it's still very busy on that front. Richard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at Berenberg00:18:47Okay, very helpful. Thanks a lot for your time. Cheers, Haytham. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:18:50Thank you, Richard. Operator00:18:55Your next question comes from the line of Martin Pradier with the Veritas Investment Research. Please go ahead. Martin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment Research00:19:05Thank you. If gold production in second half is similar to first half, you would hit at least the middle of your guidance range for gold and exceed the upper end of the guidance for silver. So the question is: Is gold production expected to be weaker or stronger in the second half versus the first half? And in terms of silver production, if you expect a weaker second half versus first half? Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:19:33I'll let Wes add some color to that. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:19:35Sure. So right now, Martin, we're looking at probably a split of about 52% in the first half of the year and 48% in the second half of the year on an overall basis. We are expecting a weakening in the gold production at Salobo, with some of the impacts from the fire and really just a lower grade, particularly in the fourth quarter. And then we are, as mentioned on Peñasquito, on the silver side, seeing that drop as they move back into the Peñasquito pit. So overall, as I said, about that kind of 52, 48 is about what we're expecting for the rest of this year. Martin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment Research00:20:14Okay, great. And in terms of Salobo, is the impact of the fire expected to be around 10,000 ounces in terms of production? Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:20:27It will be in that range, I would say. We're hoping lower than that, certainly, because they did get things back up and running fairly quickly. It wasn't one of the major conveyors and really just affected the third line. So Salobo I and II were running through that period. And also, during that period, they had some planned maintenance shutdowns during that period as well. So we haven't seen the full results of it yet, but that's, yeah, in the range, hopefully slightly better than that. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:20:52You know, I think it might be worth, you know, just talking about the fact that Salobo outperformed a bit in the first half of this year. And I think that fire probably consumed up some of that outperformance. And so from an overall annual basis, it's probably net neutral. But you know, that outperformance, as I said, was probably eaten up a little bit by the impact of the fire. Martin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment Research00:21:16Great. Thank you. Operator00:21:22Once again, if you would like to ask a question, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:21:37Oh, good. It's me. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just wanted to come back just on, on the guidance. Thank you for the 52, 48. But with all these little moving parts in the second half, just want to confirm, I think previously we were looking for fairly even Q3 equal to Q4. Should that? Is that something how we should be thinking about, given the fire and some of the other grade movements? Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:05Go ahead, Wes. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:06Yep. Sure. Yeah, I would say that is correct. It will be fairly even. I mean, there's a lot of moving parts, as you say, between the quarters there, but it is fairly even between Q3 and Q4. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:19I think the impacts of the fire are gonna hit Q3, and then we have definitely lower grades scheduled into Q4. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:26Yeah. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:27And so, it's probably gonna split it pretty evenly there as well. Wes CarsonVP of Mining Operations at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:30Yeah. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:31Okay. Well, let's thank you for that. And I just wanted to ask Gary, the DD&A forecast for the year. Usually, we get that in August in terms of depreciation. And sorry, maybe in your information provided there, we just had a number of companies report last night. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:50Sorry, the question was with respect to what we expect, G&A to be? Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:55Depreciation. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:55No, depreciation. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:56Depreciation. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:57DD&A. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:22:58Depreciation. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:22:58Sorry. Depreciation. Gary BrownSVP and CFO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:23:01Yeah. I mean, Tanya, we provide asset-by-asset depletion numbers in the MD&A. You know, I would suggest looking at what we depleted for Q2, as you know, an indication of what our per ounce depletion will be by asset. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:23:29Okay. All right. So Q2 is the benchmark going forward. Thank you for that. And then can I just ask, Haytham, just coming back to you on these transactions and opportunities that are out there, and interesting that we have the $100 million-$700 million, you know, a couple over $500 million, and you mentioned in sort of the early development stage or early construction. How does platinum palladium fit in right now, given their weak prices? Are those opportunities you're looking at in addition to the gold side, gold, silver? Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:24:05I would say even on... You're right, PGMs, given where PGM prices have gone, there's probably a few opportunities in there that we're also looking at. I would say that we're still looking at the gold components of the PGM typically, if we're looking at anything else outside of the gold, it's, you know, maybe it's platinum, and only to top up if they need more capital than the gold could provide them. But, you know, we're seeing not just the PGM opportunities, but obviously we're seeing some gold opportunities, so people trying to capitalize on the strong commodity price to try and get some additional funding. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:24:39Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. Then where would the corporate transaction fit in as you look at the space? Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:24:49So we'll always consider looking at our peers and seeing what if and when it makes sense for us to actually make any type of corporate transaction. I will say that at this point in time, it doesn't make sense to pay a premium on a multiple when I can still purchase streams at or below net asset value. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:25:11Yeah, no, I agree. And just as you look at the environment, I mean, I'm gonna, you know, I always hear everyone say there's so much out there, there's so much out there. Maybe just give us an idea from like, you know, a timing perspective, because as I said, I've heard so many comments on this, so many deals out there. Like, you know, how long do these deals take to actually do? Like, from the time you actually say, "Okay, we, you know, we're working on something," to actually do your due diligence. I know it's, you know, moment by moment, each one has, you know, a different timeframe, but just so that we can understand from the moment you're saying you're seeing so much to actually completing some of these things, so that we can kind of understand the process. Thank you. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:25:54Sure. Sure, Tanya. I'm happy, happy to answer as well. So, generally speaking, if an opportunity depends on whether we're being proactive or reactive. Most of the time, we're proactive, going out there, looking at opportunities. Probably, I'd say 20% or 30% of the time right now, we're being reactive to opportunities coming in the door. Once an opportunity comes in the door, it takes us usually a couple of weeks to actually do our first pass models, just to see if it actually makes sense to put a stream on it. If we do that and we find that the asset can actually handle, the margins are solid, the asset can handle the stream, we'll do a deep dive, and that usually takes another couple of weeks. We'll somewhere along the way, we'll put out an indication of value. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:26:34We will assuming the indication of value is interesting to the counterparty, then we'll head to site. At the same time, we'll start working on term sheets, and once we typically conclude term sheets, we look to for exclusivity. Once that exclusivity is obtained, usually takes about another four weeks to get definitive in place. So you're talking from start to finish, anywhere from, I'd say, six to eight weeks is a typical timeline for a stream. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:27:03Okay, thank you for that. I actually thought it was longer, but thank you for that. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:27:09Sometimes it takes longer, but usually it has to do with database issues and stuff like that. It's always, you know, a matter of having to make sure that we're getting good information in when we're assessing these projects, and so sometimes that does drag out a bit. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:27:24Okay. So about two months would be something that, you know, we should kind of think about? Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:27:29Yeah. I mean, if you ask our lawyers, they'd rather we said three, but, you know, we've done it in four weeks, and it's taken as long as three months. So yeah, it's probably a good average. Tanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at Scotiabank00:27:39Okay. Thank you for the call, for the caller. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:27:43Pleasure, Tammy. Operator00:27:50Your next question comes from the line of Ralph Profiti with Eight Capital. Please go ahead. Ralph ProfitiPrincipal Equity Research Analyst at Eight Capital00:27:57Thanks, operator. Just one question from me. I did see some rephasing of the Santo Domingo upfront payment that came with the updated feasibility study. And I'm just wondering, where does that upfront stream payment rank in sort of the project capital spending? Is it sort of pari passu with the project financing, or is it on project sanctioning? Just wondering how that works. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:25That money goes in ahead of debt, and so it's in the earlier part of the construction phase. They have to commence construction and move forward, but it does go in to the ground before any project debt goes, gets applied to it. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:37With that being said, they have to ensure that the full funding package is in place and arranged before we would actually provide any capital. Ralph ProfitiPrincipal Equity Research Analyst at Eight Capital00:28:46Understood. Gotcha. Thanks for that. Appreciate it. Thanks, Randy. Thanks, Haytham. Haytham HodalySVP of Corporate Development at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:50Yep. Randy SmallwoodPresident and CEO at Wheaton Precious Metals00:28:53Well, thank you everyone for, for your time today. We are pleased to have reported a strong first half of the year. Wheaton's high-quality portfolio of assets, sector leading growth profile, and commitment to sustainability provides all of our shareholders, all of our stakeholders, with a solid outlook for the future and what we believe to be one of the best vehicles for investing into the gold and precious metal space. And as we celebrate our twentieth anniversary throughout 2024, I am sincerely thankful to all of our stakeholders for being part of Wheaton's success, and I look forward to a golden future together. We look forward to speaking with you all again soon. Thank you. Operator00:29:44Thank you, presenters. This concludes this conference call for today. Thank you for participating. Please disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesEmma MurrayVP of Investor RelationsGary BrownSVP and CFOHaytham HodalySVP of Corporate DevelopmentRandy SmallwoodPresident and CEOWes CarsonVP of Mining OperationsAnalystsMartin PradierInvestment Analyst for Materials at Veritas Investment ResearchRalph ProfitiPrincipal Equity Research Analyst at Eight CapitalRichard HatchEquity Research Analyst of Metals and Mining at BerenbergTanya JakusconekResearch Analyst of Metals and Mining at ScotiabankPowered by