Joint Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Joint Corporation Second Quarter 20 24 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Mr.

Operator

David Barnard, LHA Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Nick. Good afternoon, everyone. Again, this is David Barnard of LHA Investor Relations. Joining us on the call today are President and CEO, Peter Holt and CFO, Jake Singleton. Please note, we are using a slide presentation that can be found at https ir.

Speaker 1

Thejoint.com under the Events section. Today, after the close of market, The Joint Corporation issued its results for the quarter ended June 30, 2024. If you not already have a copy of the press release, it can be found in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. As provided on Slide 2, please be advised that today's discussion includes forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements other than statements of historical facts may be considered forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Although the company believes that the expectations and assumptions reflected in these forward looking statements are reasonable, can make no assurances that such expectations or assumptions will prove to have been correct. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in forward looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties. As a result, we caution you against placing undue reliance on these forward looking statements. For a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in the forward looking statements, Please refer to the risk factors detailed in the company's reports on Form 10 ks and 10 Q as well as other reports that the company files from time to time with the SEC. Finally, any forward looking statements included in this earnings call are made only as of the date of this call, and we do not undertake any obligation to revise our results or publicly release any updates to these forward looking statements in light of new information or future events.

Speaker 1

Management uses EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, which are non GAAP financial measures. These are presented because they are important measures used by management to assess financial financial performance. Management believes they provide a more transparent view of the company's underlying operating performance and operating trends and GAAP measures alone. Reconciliation of net income to EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA is presented in the press release. The company defines EBITDA as net income or loss before net interest, tax expense, depreciation and amortization expenses.

Speaker 1

The company defines adjusted EBITDA as EBITDA before acquisition related expenses, which includes contract termination costs associated with reacquired regional developer rights, stock based compensation expense, margin purchase gain, net gain or loss on disposition or impairment, costs related to restatement filings, restructuring costs, litigation expenses consisting of legal and related fees for specific proceedings that arise outside of the company's ordinary course of business and other income related to the employee retention credits. Management also includes commonly discussed performance metrics. System wide sales include revenues at all clinics, whether operated by the company or by franchisees. While franchise sales are not recorded as revenues by the company, management believes the information is important in understanding the company's financial performance because these sales are the basis on which the company calculates and records royalty fees and are indicative of the financial health of the franchisee base. System wide comp sales include the revenues from both company owned or managed clinics and franchise clinics that in each case have been open at least 13 full months and exclude any clinics that have closed.

Speaker 1

Turning to Slide 3, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Peter Holt.

Speaker 2

Thank you, David, and I welcome everybody to the call. The joint continues to revolutionize access to chiropractic care. Our nationwide network of 9 60 clinics, 86% of which are franchise provides affordable concierge style membership based services in convenient retail setting. During Q2 2024, we furthered our strategies to improve unit economics and to refranchise the vast majority of our corporate clinics. We also continued to deliver growth even during the ongoing macroeconomic pressure.

Speaker 2

Q2222024 revenue increased 3% and same store comps grew 2% compared to the prior year period. Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $2,100,000 and in a moment, Jake will provide greater detail to our financials. To increase clinic profitability, we're embracing new innovation in operations, IT and marketing that leverage the size of our network on national and local levels. Turning to Slide 4, I'll review the recent activity. As we approach having 1,000 clinics, we're increased increased our purchasing power, which we're leveraging to the benefit of our clinics.

Speaker 2

For example, our unit economics task force created a clinic in the box to optimize the time and cost of our new openings. We redesigned the interiors with lower cost material and sizes that can be shipped more economically. Now our vendor can produce and ship all the elements to open the clinic. We expect to both shorten the time to opening and significantly lower the build out cost. In IT, we're supporting more financial tools that help franchisees automate and manage their businesses.

Speaker 2

And our recent patient innovations include adjusting elements of our business model to better align with current consumer preferences. An important part of growing patient loyalty is creating a frictionless experience. While our patients love the convenience of our model, we've learned subset of patients would like to schedule their first visit to ensure that they can get in, out and on their way. To answer this need and testing earlier this year, we launched the initial visit booking system wide last month. Patients who have had booked their first visit indicated that booking was both a positive experience and important to their choosing to joint.

Speaker 2

We've extensively tested our enhanced digital intake forms now that enable new patients to use their own mobile devices when completing their intake form with a plan to roll this out system wide later this month. Our trials have proven this process is easier and less time consuming for patients as well as our wellness coordinators. We're aggressively developing our mobile check-in and in Q4 we'll beta the app. Additionally, we'll be evaluating different membership options and policies. We're assessing pricing and discount strategies such as our walk in rate, changes to hours and days of operation as well as our legacy pricing policy.

Speaker 2

Turning to Slide 5, I'll review our refranchise goals and efforts. As discussed previously, we're focused on driving long term growth by selecting the most effective partners for our refranchise clinics. In May, we engaged Capstone Partners, a full service middle market investment bank with specialization in refranchising and recently finalized the confidential information memorandum package for marketing clusters of our clinics. In the meantime, we have considerable interest in a number of markets. Currently, 2 transactions with 9 clinics have been approved and moving through the Letterman 10 process.

Speaker 2

In Savannah and Kansas City, these transactions will address 2 smaller clusters that we can

Speaker 3

tie to existing franchisees.

Speaker 2

Also, based in California in California and Arizona to existing franchisees for net proceeds of $224,000 We're well on our way capital to be reinvested in brand marketing, RD territory acquisitions and or stock purchases among other options. Turning to Slide 6, I'll review our marketing efforts. In the last 9 months, we've conducted significant research and formulated programs to amplify patient acquisition and retention, engage lapsed patients, increase referrals and improve conversion and attrition. We realized we need to optimize our marketing investment to better support the marketing funnel and shift resources from lead generation toward consideration and awareness campaigns. This is an important adjustment to our marketing strategy as 49% of adults in the United States have never been to a chiropractor, even though 80% have back pain at some point in their lives.

Speaker 2

Similarly, while the joint has 1,670,000 active patients, which represents less than 1% of adults in the United States, we're constantly working to educate more people about the efficacy of chiropractic care. Currently, we have 1st mover advantage and our goal is to make the joint synonymous with chiropractic like Kleenex is to tissue. As we focus on building our brand strategy that defines and leverages our unique strengths to grow clinic profitability and patient loyalty. Additionally, we know an important part of driving patient loyalty is affordability. In June, we began offered our 5+1 summer sale, giving our patients access to a free month care when they purchase 5 months in advance.

Speaker 2

This promotion exceeded our expectations. What makes these results even more impressive is in that year for this year, the sale was not valid for legacy priced memberships. This exclusion is part of our ongoing commitment to drive clinic level profitability. And even without the discounting of legacy members, we had a strong demand for the promotion. We've continued to work with our co ops to provide a more robust marketing level strategy, Leveraging what we know about those patients new to chiropractic and those not new to chiropractic to as with their behavior, we worked with our largest co ops and implement new channels and tactics.

Speaker 2

This increase includes the TikTok spend market wide to reduce costs and increase impressions as well as the introduction of new channels aimed at driving awareness and consideration and lowering the patient acquisition costs. Turning to Slide 7, let's discuss our clinic metrics. In Q2 2024, we opened 9 franchise clinics, refranchised 2 clinics and closed 3 clinics, 1 franchise and 2 corporate for a net increase of 6 clinics. In the same period a year ago, we opened 23 franchised and 3 greenfield clinics, acquired 3 previously franchised clinics for our corporate portfolio and closed 6 clinics, 4 franchised and 2 corporate for a net increase of 20 clinics. On June 30, 2024, our total clinic count reached 960 consisting of 829 franchised and 131 corporate.

Speaker 2

The clinic portfolio mix remains at 86% franchised and 14% company owned or managed, although it's expected to shift during the year we execute our refranchising strategy. Turning to Slide 8, I'll review our franchise license sales. As previously indicated, we expect franchise license sales to be impacted by our refranchising strategy. During Q2, we sold 7 franchise licenses compared to 21 in Q2 2023. Of the licenses sold, 73% of the franchisees were new to the joint.

Speaker 2

At June 30, 2024, we had 158 franchise licenses in active development as well as 17 regional developers with an aggregate year minimum development schedule for 674 clinics. In July, for approximately $500,000 we reacquired the Maryland DC RD territory with 17 opened clinics and a potential for another 31 clinics. This reduced the number of RDs to 16 and are coverage to approximately 59% of the network. And with that, I'll turn it over to Jake.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Peter. And let's turn to Slide 9. I'll review our clinic comps for Q2 2024 compared to Q2 2023. System wide sales for all clinics open for any amount of time increased to $129,600,000 up 8%. System wide comp sales for all clinics opened 13 months increased 2%.

Speaker 4

System wide comp sales for mature clinics open 48 months or more, decreased 4%. Revenue was $30,300,000 up $1,000,000 or 3%. Revenue from franchised operations increased 10%, contributing $12,600,000 Company owned or managed clinic revenue decreased 1%, contributing $17,700,000 Cost of revenues was $2,800,000 up 9% over the same period last year, reflecting the associated higher regional developer royalties and commissions. Selling and marketing expenses were $5,400,000 up 15% year over year, reflecting the costs associated with the in person national conference and the timing of advertising spend. Depreciation and amortization expenses decreased $805,000 or 35% compared to the prior year period.

Speaker 4

This reflects the accounting for corporate clinics that are being held for sale as part of the refranchising effort. G and A expenses were $22,600,000 up 13% compared to the same period last year, primarily due to the increased expense to support more clinics plus $1,500,000 in legal expenses associated with the class action settlement related to time and wages in the state of California, which reflects the ongoing complexity of doing business in California. Loss on disposition or impairment was $1,400,000 related to 2 corporate clinic closures our quarterly analysis of clinics held for sale as part of the refranchising effort. This compares to $144,000 in Q2 2023. Income tax expense was $178,000 compared to income tax benefit of $161,000 in Q2 2023.

Speaker 4

Net loss was $3,600,000 including the aforementioned $1,500,000 litigation expense, dollars 1,400,000 in loss on disposition or impairment and the expense associated with the in person national conference for a loss of $0.24 per share. This compares to net loss $320,000 including loss on disposition or impairment of $144,000 or a loss of $0.02 per share in Q2 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was $2,100,000 compared to $3,200,000 Franchise Clinic adjusted EBITDA was $4,700,000 compared to $5,100,000 reflecting the increased marketing expense related to the National Conference. Company owned or managed clinic adjusted EBITDA increased 15% to $2,500,000 Corporate expense as a component of adjusted EBITDA was $5,000,000 compared to $4,100,000 in Q2 2023, reflecting ongoing IT maintenance and higher legal and professional service expenses related to our refranchising efforts. On to slide 10, to review our balance sheet and cash flow.

Speaker 4

At June 30, 2024, our unrestricted cash was $17,500,000 compared to $18,200,000 at December 31, 2023. Cash flow from operations for the 6 month period was $1,800,000 In addition, the net proceeds of the sales of 2 clinics was partially offset by ongoing IT CapEx and a $2,000,000 Q1 repayment on the line of credit with JPMorgan Chase. Through this facility, we have retained immediate access to $20,000,000 through February of 2027. On to Slide 11, a review of our financial results for the 6 months ended June 30, 2024 compared to the same period in 2023. Revenue was $60,000,000 up 4%.

Speaker 1

Net loss was

Speaker 4

$2,600,000 including $1,800,000 in loss on disposition or impairment and the aforementioned $1,500,000 of litigation expense and the cost of the in person national franchise conference for a loss of $0.18 per share. This compares to net income for the first half of twenty twenty three of $2,000,000 which included the $3,900,000 employee retention credit and $210,000 on loss of disposition or impairment or $0.13 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $5,600,000 compared to $5,300,000 in the same period of 2023. On to Slide 12, with the strong comps in July and anticipation of our 4th quarter promotions, we reiterating all elements of our guidance. System wide sales are expected to be between $530,000,000 $545,000,000 compared to $488,000,000 in 2023.

Speaker 4

System wide comp sales for all clinics open 13 months or more are expected to increase in the mid single digits compared to an increase of 4% in 2023. New franchise clinic openings excluding the impact of refranchise clinics are expected to be between 6075 compared to 104 in 2023. The difference reflects the impact of our refranchising efforts. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to

Speaker 5

you, Peter.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jake. In late May, at our Annual Franchisee Conference, we discussed strategies to increase clinic profitability and recognize clinics with outstanding performance. Our conference theme, Inspire, Influence and Imagine, captured the passion of our franchisees, RDs and employees. As franchising is like minded people building a brand, we're thrilled to be partnered with some of the most talented franchisees and doctors of chiropractic in the United States. During our 2024 award ceremony, we honored over 180 inspirational clinics that generated over $750,000 in 2023.

Speaker 2

This compares to recognizing 14 high performing clinics with sales exceeding $550,000 in 2015. This year's award winners included 56 Gold Clinics with sales between $1,000,000 and 1 $490,000 a marked increase from the only one clinic at this level in 2017. And this year, we honored 2 platinum clinics with sales over $1,500,000 Part of this success is attributed to the substantial improvement in our chiropractic community's perception of the joint. Since 2018, we've taken action to influence the views of chiropractic care in general and the Joint in particular. We've endeavored to forge better relationships with the chiropractic schools and associations and have educated them about our model, our commitment to patient service and our mission to improve quality of life through routine and affordable chiropractic care.

Speaker 2

Now with a growing number of joint doctors participating in the school's preceptorship programs, which mentors undergraduate doctors of chiropractic, is increasingly sought after. We also foster these relationships by providing support for educational, athletic and relief programs. Between 2018 May 2024, the Joint has donated over $1,000,000 to the chiropractor schools, including a recent student scholarship endowment. We've grown to be the largest provider of information on chiropractic on the Internet, which contributes to the fact that over 36% of our new patients in 2023 had never been to a chiropractor before. This also means around 65% have chosen to join over other providers.

Speaker 2

Now I'll look to the future. With our better relationships and enhanced marketing, we're approaching having 1,000 clinics open. The more clinics we open, the more patients we serve, the more referrals we receive and the more people we educate about the power and efficacy of chiropractic. Currently, about 16% of the adults in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Have utilized chiropractic care in the last year according to the Palmer Gallup study. Imagine what would happen to our business when under these numbers we reach 18% or 20% and beyond. That's when chiropractic care becomes a mainstream choice and we truly begin to experience the exponential growth. As more and more people discover chiropractic care, our reach is boundless. In summary, in 2024, our highest priorities are refranchising the corporate clinics and improving unit economics Through streamlined operations, resource optimization and continuous improvement, we expect to maximize profitability at the unit level while delivering exceptional experiences to our patients.

Speaker 2

Before we begin, I'd like to invite you to visit us at the B. Riley 7th Annual Consumer and TMT Conference in New York City this September.

Speaker 3

And with

Speaker 2

that, Nick, I'm ready to begin the Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. First question will be from JP Wollum, ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Great. Hi, Peter. Hi, Jake. Thanks for taking my questions here. If we could maybe just start on the refranchising, Not sure exactly kind of what you want to share or how much you'll share on the process, but I'm just hoping we're a bit into the process here and I think maybe the number of refranchises is a little lower than where we might have thought at this point in time.

Speaker 5

But I was hoping you could maybe just talk about how the conversations are going. It sounds like you've got a couple more units that are about to be under LOI. But just talk broadly about, are you finding more success with existing franchisees? Are people looking to do just larger scale transactions that are taking more time? Any details and kind of information you could share about the process would be great.

Speaker 2

Sure. It's great to talk with you and that the process has probably taken a little longer than we would expect. I would have loved to be further along in this process than we are. And it's really a combination. So we have that portfolio of roughly 131 clinics that we've broken up into clusters.

Speaker 2

We're talking our existing franchisees who want to pick up maybe a couple of clinics that are around them. The reason we went into the relationship with Capstone is to really widen the market and you do have a number of multiunit operators out there that are looking to diversify and invest in other franchise concepts and they are looking for that larger cluster of clinics. And so that it's taken us some time to put together the SIEM that we're using to market the program. And so we're really now very aggressively starting to market to some of those larger players. And at the same time, we have a couple of very large players in our own system that are also interested in the acquisition of clinics.

Speaker 2

So it has taken a little longer than anticipated. I think that there is obviously a lot of interest in these clinics. These are well performing clinics. So this isn't a fire sale. We're just trying to get them off the books.

Speaker 2

These are valuable assets that we obviously want to put in the hands of the franchisees who can most effectively run them. And so I think those are the real drivers of this process that we're going through.

Speaker 5

Great. That's very helpful. If we jump over to the innovation and the conversation around the changes to the box and some of the IT innovation, if maybe I could focus a little bit more on the box. And I think you made a comment about reducing costs and reducing time to open. Could you just maybe share, is there any way to quantify, I guess, what the impact would be on maybe on a cash on cash return basis going forward or any way that you can quantify the impact?

Speaker 2

Well, I'm not really ready to give out specific numbers, but what we've done is that we've really streamlined the whole process of the build out of the clinic. So we truly have whereas before, first of all, our build out is relatively simple. And so this isn't QSR where we have a lot of been building the front desk, which is a big segment of the build out. Been building the front desk, which is a big segment of the build out individually for each clinic. Now what we've done is we've streamlined that process, so it's modular, so that's easy to ship and it can you don't have to have it built uniquely for each of the clinics that are open.

Speaker 2

And we've really looked at every element of what is part of that build out and tried to look at ways that we can either streamline it, lower its cost, make it easier to install. And so in that case, we're being able to lower the cost. And also we had all these different elements, whether there are tables or the desks that you're building coming from different vendors. And so that when you're trying to consolidate that or you're trying to get your ship to the location of the clinic, that's increasing your cost. So we've really reduced significantly the shipping costs associated with the build out.

Speaker 2

And then because this is all consolidated, you can really build that clinic out in a faster manner. So is that faster by a month or 2 months? We'll see as we go forward with the lower open and at a lower cost. Okay,

Speaker 5

understood. And if I could slide one last one in just on maybe this is for Jake, but just in terms of the comp improvements in the back half of the year to kind of get us to that mid single digit, I would think maybe it sounds like July has was performing well. I think there's maybe a little bit of an easier comp in Q3, but are there any kind of meaningful levers that are needing to be pulled to kind of get to comp guidance in the back half? Or is it really the easier comp and then the seasonal promotions that you mentioned?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think you've got most of the pieces there. July did start off strong with us. We posted a greater than 5% comp for the system with our franchisees closer to 6 levers perspective, it's really like you've mentioned a softer Q3 in the 2023 period. So we're rolling over an easier comp there theoretically.

Speaker 4

We always perform well in terms of our Q4 promotions that are planned. But as Peter mentioned, we're consistently looking at the pricing levers to see if that's something that we need to touch base with. So those are potentials that we're in evaluation mode right now, looking at whether the legacy policy, walk in pricing, things of that nature. So we have those levers at our disposal. And then always the ability to layer on an incremental promotion should we need a little bit of a boost.

Speaker 4

So mostly levering with the existing things that you mentioned.

Speaker 5

Great. Really appreciate it. Best of luck, guys.

Speaker 2

Thanks. Great to see you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question will be from C. J. Diplino from Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Hey, guys. CJ Diplino on for Jeremy Hamblin. Wanted to touch again on the refranchising. It sounds like you're just starting to get going with some of these larger transactions. I want to see is there a world where you get any of these larger transactions done in 2024?

Speaker 3

Or are you looking more out towards next year?

Speaker 2

Ideally, we'd like to see as much done in the end of 2024 as possible. And the larger the deal, typically, the more due diligence you're doing, a little more difficult the time it takes to get everybody aligned on price and legal structure. So that we are now pushing as hard as possible to make these all these deals complete. It's also hard on the system to have these clinics up for sale that you want to minimize the time this is going to take just because of the uncertainty that creates for your employees and outside of Fort Well support. So can we get everything done by the end of the year?

Speaker 2

Can we get significant things done by the year? I think it's possible. Will this go into 2025? I think it's probable.

Speaker 4

Yes. C. J, the only thing I would layer on there is we have taken considerable amount of time to create an exceptionally detailed SIEM. And we've had a lot of time now to kind of get the workrooms and the due diligence materials in place. And so we feel confident that as we have strong interest, we've put together a lot of the materials and resources to streamline that process as best that we can.

Speaker 4

But as Peter mentioned, larger transactions by nature are going to take a little bit more time.

Speaker 3

Got it. Okay. That makes sense. And then moving towards comps and more specifically traffic, a lot of peers have called out sort of slowing traffic starting in May going into June. Could you maybe just give a little color on the cadence of comps through Q2?

Speaker 4

Yes. We did see a slowing of comps throughout the quarter, a little bit nuanced for us in this particular quarter as Peter mentioned in his prepared remarks, we have a promotion that we run-in June, which is a forward buy promotion. So our patients are buying 6 months of care for the price of 5, if you will. And so that recurred year over year. But as Peter mentioned, we did not honor any of our legacy pricing as it relates to that promotion.

Speaker 4

So what that meant for us in this particular period was that we had a slightly lower uptake in terms of people capitalizing on the promotion. On the preceding months that follow. So really kind of a push out of some revenue period over period which I think resulted in the slightly lower comp for June and I think is helping us here in July, which I mentioned the strong comps that we've seen so far.

Speaker 3

Great. Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue.

Speaker 3

Best of luck with the rest of the quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Nick Schur with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Good evening. My question is, can you talk about the loss in sales for the mature clinic comps? And are you seeing that rebound in July? Or are you seeing a lot of that expected comp sales growth to be from new clinics?

Speaker 4

Yes. All of our comp metrics improved in July. As it relates to the results for the quarter, Q1 we posted a 3% total system comp negative 3% for mature and each of those metrics fell by 1% in the 2nd quarter. So 2% for the system, negative 4% as it relates to the mature clinics. And so as we look at the KPI build, what drives the gross sales of our clinics, the softness that we continue to see is in that new patient metric.

Speaker 4

If we're getting them in the door, we're still converting at a great rate. And our attrition is as good as it's ever been. So it's really just that new patient traffic that we're trying to consistently draw and that's really where we saw the headwind and have seen the headwind in recent periods. So it's sequential down 1%, still posted a 2% comp in a tough consumer environment out there and we have seen a nice rebound here in July.

Speaker 6

So do you have any plans going forward to stabilize the comp sales for these mature clinics? Or do you think we're still going to look at contraction going through the rest of the year for the mature clinics?

Speaker 2

No, absolutely. Now some of the things we talked about. So for example, we've some really great success with what we're calling our initial visit bookings. So that instead of just coming in as a new patient, you can now actually book an appointment and we find that has significantly increased the new patient count in the clinics that have been testing with that and we're now rolling that out across the system. That we are looking at really all of the different ways that we market this business to those new patients and to our existing patients.

Speaker 2

And one of the areas we've been focused on is those lapsed patients. We talked about we have 1,670,000 active users and that of those, a lot of those are lapsed patients. They could be just walk ins. They could be people that we can kind of recontact using some automated marketing programs that we put in place to be able to bring them in earlier or after they've dropped because we know that the average patient stays with us for about on membership for about 6 months. We also know that 25% of them move back in the next 6 months because their pain comes back.

Speaker 2

We think through this automated marketing, can specifically try to draw those in earlier and because of those mature clinics that have such a huge membership base and a whole number of clinic patients who've been through those clinics is they have a greater base of potential patients to even back in than a newer clinic. So we think that could significantly help our older clinics as we continue to go through this kind of economic uncertainty with our patient base.

Speaker 6

Understood. Thank you. And my last question is, how are you managing your sales and marketing spend going into this Q3 and beginning of Q4 with the presidential election and which generally you see advertising expenses going up. And I don't and so how are you making sure that you're getting these promotions out there without over spending on adding customers because of these higher advertising costs?

Speaker 4

Sure. I mean, you have to really think about the full funnel in terms of how we drive new patient traffic. As a health care services business, we have a lot of referral traffic and that really isn't at the whim of advertising price points. The largest channel for us probably right now is in the digital space. And so we may see that from an overall dollars perspective, whether it be our national marketing fund spend or those of our co ops, right?

Speaker 4

Each of our franchise units has a requirement to spend as much as $3,000 per month per clinic on their local advertising. And so as we go through this cycle, I think could we see some slightly higher uptick? But again, a lot of that doesn't flow through our corporate P and Ls and we have a lot of channels in the mix in terms of how we disperse that marketing spend.

Speaker 2

And some of these new channels like TikTok or Programmatic, we've done some work with influencers that are in some ways a little outside of that traditional spend that is being so absorbed by the national elections. So it is something that we're watching carefully, but we do have a whole series of these other venues, especially in the digital space to be able to spend and generate those new patients.

Speaker 3

Sounds great. Thank you for

Speaker 6

all the detail. I'll return to the queue.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Peter Holt for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much. In April, we announced the joint influencer campaign, which athletes would share their own authentic stories about how chiropractic helps them enhance their athletic performance. And we're excited to report that one of the joint influencers, track and field athlete, Sheree Hawkins, qualified for the 2024 Olympics in Paris. At the U. S.

Speaker 2

Olympic team trials in Eugene, Oregon, Sherry finished second in heptalalone with a career high. In addition, she achieved personal records in 3 of the 7 events: the 800 meter run, the javelin and the shot put. Please join me in cheering on Sherry and all the athletes of the Paris Olympics. Thank you and stay well adjusted.

Operator

Conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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