NYSE:AQN Algonquin Power & Utilities Q2 2024 Earnings Report $5.46 -0.03 (-0.60%) Closing price 05/7/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$5.45 -0.01 (-0.13%) As of 05/7/2025 07:57 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Algonquin Power & Utilities EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.09Consensus EPS $0.08Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.08Algonquin Power & Utilities Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$598.60 millionExpected Revenue$635.95 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$37.35 millionYoY Revenue Growth-4.70%Algonquin Power & Utilities Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/9/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, August 9, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsAlgonquin Power & Utilities' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Friday, May 9, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Algonquin Power & Utilities Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 9, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Algonquin Power and Utilities Corp. 2nd Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Operator00:00:24Brian Chin, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:30Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our Q2 2024 earnings conference call. Speaking on the call today will be Chris Huskelson, Chief Executive Officer Darren Myers, Chief Financial Officer Jeff Norman, President of Renewables and Sarah McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer. To accompany today's earnings call, we have a supplemental webcast presentation available on our website, algonquapower.com. Our financial statements and management discussion and analysis are also available on the website as well as on SEDAR Plus and EDGAR. Speaker 100:01:01We would like to remind you that our discussion during the call will include certain forward looking information and non GAAP measures. Actual results could differ materially from any forecast or projection contained in such forward looking information. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in making the forecasts and projections reflected in such forward looking information. Please note and review the related disclaimers located on Slide 2 of our earnings call presentation at the Investor Relations section of our website at algonquinpower.com. Please also refer to our most recent MD and A filed on SEDAR Plus and EDGAR and available on our website for additional important information on these items, including the material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially and the factors and assumptions applied in making such forecasts and projections. Speaker 100:01:45On the call this morning, Chris will provide an update surrounding the Renewables sales agreement, which was press released this morning and on the company's ongoing strategic transition to a pure play regulated utility. Then Darren will review key highlights pertaining to our regulated and renewables business groups and our 2nd quarter financial results. Darren will also provide some color on the financial outlook following the expected sales of the Renewables business. And then Chris will close with some final remarks. We will then open the lines for the question and answer period. Speaker 100:02:12We ask that you kindly restrict your questions to 2, then re queue if you have any additional questions to allow others the opportunity to participate. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris. Speaker 200:02:22Thank you, Brian, and good morning, everyone. After being in the CEO role for a year, I'm more convinced than ever that our current path towards a pure play regulated utility supports our goals to create long term value, increase our quality of earnings and bring increased focus to improving our execution. A year ago, I set 3 priority goals: to sell the renewables business, optimize the value of Ay and to get the regulated business up and running. Today, I'm pleased to announce the successful sale of our renewables business at a valuation of $2,500,000,000 As we set out to accomplish in our 2023 strategic review, we've achieved a deal at a compelling value for our platform business with strong assets and scale. As we set out to accomplish sorry, excuse me, this agreement between Algonquin and LS Power for the company's non hydro renewable energy business consisting of $2,280,000,000 in cash proceeds and $220,000,000 in an earn out agreement relating to certain wind assets. Speaker 200:03:48I just want to take this moment to thank the team from across Algonquin for the tireless efforts that they put in. It was a great job team. Thank you very much. This major milestone coupled with our previously announced support agreement to sell our Atlantica shares delivers on our plan to transform Algonquin into a pure play regulated utility, optimize our regulated business activities, strengthen our balance sheet and enhance our quality of earnings. As Darren will touch on shortly, we expect to use the proceeds upon close in late 2024 or early 2025 to recapitalize our balance sheet and position ourselves for future growth. Speaker 200:04:41We're also making progress on our goal to get the regulated business up and running. We reorganized along commodity lines to improve operational efficiency. We recently completed the implementation of our Customer First Enterprise platform, which promises to deliver value to our customers and substantial efficiencies. We added 3 new experienced Board members with extensive infrastructure and regulated utility experience. We're implementing fundamental changes to how we operate the company with increased accountability. Speaker 200:05:20This is the beginning of a multiyear journey to unlock the value of our regulated business. In addition, we're making changes at the executive level. Yesterday, the company appointed Sarah McDonald as Chief Transformation Officer. In her new role, Sarah will assume responsibility for utility operations and customer service. Sarah is a lawyer by training and has more than 2 decades of legal, human resources and operational experience. Speaker 200:05:52She has a broad background having worked in the utility sector for more than 20 years, including roles in utility construction, as President and CEO of AmeriCaribbean and as President of TECO Services. As part of this announcement, Chief Operating Officer, Johnny Johnston has left the company. I'd like to personally thank Johnny for his dedication and service and his commitment as we wish him the best for his future endeavors. As we look forward, we're focused on delivering value to our shareholders in a more self sufficient manner. We see tremendous value in the business from investments we have made for our customers that are not yet in rates. Speaker 200:06:42We need to improve our recoveries, reduce our regulatory lag and absorb our growth. As a result, we will be reducing our regulated CapEx for 2025. Also as part of our objective to be more self sufficient, the Board has decided to right size the dividend. So we're not chasing a high payout ratio and excessive equity raises. These are necessary steps that we expect to unlock more value in the long term for our shareholders. Speaker 200:07:17Now let me provide more details on the business, starting with the investments not yet in rates. We currently estimate over $1,000,000,000 in assets are not yet authorized in rates or receiving optimized regulatory treatment. This represents a rare capital light path to earnings growth. An example of this is our Saravel Wastewater Treatment Plant in Arizona. The plant is an important and currently operating asset, enabling the local community to grow, but is not yet in customer rates. Speaker 200:07:54Another is our Customer First SAP program, which as I mentioned earlier, just completed its final implementation. Our investment in the platform has been approved in 6 of our smaller jurisdictions, but is not yet reflected in customer rates for the majority of our utilities. Our Customer First program is a world class platform designed to facilitate greater operational efficiency and utility integration or improved customer service. It's worth calling out that we are now in the typical post conversion adjustment period for these types of systems. Our system implementation combined with our most active rate case calendar in our history is causing some delays in our rate case filings, which we're working through. Speaker 200:08:48In terms of our rate case filings, I also want to call out changes to our expected regulatory calendar in of our jurisdictions, namely Missouri, New Hampshire and California. In respect to these jurisdictions, we're expecting delays of 1 to 2 quarters, which will shift the beginning of our recoveries closer to 2026. These delays will of course impact short term earnings. While we have some challenges in the short term, the substantial value here is a disciplined capital light trajectory to improve returns. With that, I'll turn it over to Darren. Speaker 300:09:26Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with the regulated services group. During the Q2 of 2024, we received the final order for our Belco utility in Bermuda, authorizing a revenue increase totaling $33,600,000 over 2 years. New rates became effective on August 1, 2024. In New York, we filed a joint proposal with the New York Department of Public Services staff resolving all contested issues and a final order is expected sometime in the Q3. Speaker 300:09:58The regulated services group currently has pending 14 rate reviews totaling $131,000,000 as of quarter end. Turning now to a brief update on our Renewables Energy Group. Our construction trajectory for renewables remains on track. Our construction loan balances fall into $405,000,000 due to the buyout of the Newmarket Solar and Shady Oaks 2 projects. By year end, we expect that loan balance to round trip back up to similar level where we started the year due to the completion of construction at Carvers Creek and Clearview. Speaker 300:10:33I'll now turn to our financial results. Our 2nd quarter financial performance delivered growth in each of our key financial metrics, EBITDA, adjusted net earnings and adjusted net earnings per share with double digit increases compared to the same period last year. Operating profit growth for both the regulated renewables business were largely as expected with regulated growing 7% and renewables growing 31%. Adjusted EBITDA was $311,000,000 up 12% from the same period last year. Adjusted net earnings were $65,200,000 an increase of 16%. Speaker 300:11:08On a per share level, our 2nd quarter adjusted net earnings per share was 0 point year. Let me briefly discuss individual EPS drivers. 1st, weather returned to a more normalized level, contributing approximately 0 point grew organically by $0.02 primarily due to new rate implementations at several of the company's electric, gas and water utilities. However, this was offset by negative $0.02 year over year due to last year's benefit of a one time retroactive rate order in California. Renewables also organically grew by $0.02 driven by contributions from new wind facilities Deerfield II and Sandy Ridge II brought online last year. Speaker 300:11:57This was offset by negative $0.01 due to development cost expenses in part as a result of the simplification of our JV entity as discussed in prior quarters. Depreciation contributed negative $0.02 and interest expense contributed a negative $0.01 excluding the impacts of our Empire bond securitization. And lastly, tax credits were a little better this year than we had projected being flat year over year. Turning now to key financing activities. During the quarter, the company settled the purchase contracts from its green equity units as expected, issuing approximately 76,900,000 common shares for proceeds of $1,150,000,000 These proceeds were used to reduce existing indebtedness and for general corporate purposes. Speaker 300:12:43We ended the quarter with approximately 767,000,000 shares issued and outstanding. With the conclusion of the equity unit remarketing and as of June 30, 2024, we have refinanced approximately $2,500,000,000 of our borrowings over the trailing 12 months and we have simplified our capital structure. As Chris mentioned earlier, we are pleased to announce the sale of our renewables business. The transaction proceeds and valuation are compelling. We expect to close the sale in late 2024 or early 2025 and receive net cash proceeds of approximately $1,600,000,000 after repaying construction financing and other customary adjustments. Speaker 300:13:29Proceeds from the renewable sale plus our Atlantica shares will leave us with a very strong balance sheet. In addition, as we look forward, we are making changes to be more self sufficient. We are looking at spending capital at a level just above requisite maintenance, safety and environmental requirements in order for the company to digest the impact of investments already made on behalf of our customers. Once we improve our returns to a more appropriate level, we will have the opportunity to increase our capital spending in a disciplined way. With regards to our newly reduced dividend, we see our revised dividend payout as roughly 60% to 70% of our optimized core regulated earnings power on our current assets. Speaker 300:14:13And although we are not providing guidance at this time, as described earlier, 2025 earnings will be impacted by rate case timing. With that, I'll hand it back to Chris for some closing remarks. Speaker 200:14:26Okay. Thank you, Darren. In summary, we've achieved several major milestones and are delivering on our plan to transform Algonquin into a pure play regulated utility. We're reducing our capital spend and dividend to position the company for greater long term value creation. As we look forward, we expect to have a solid balance sheet, a healthy payout ratio, a capital light path towards earnings and ultimately dividend growth, all under for the first time a focused company with a singular business model. Speaker 200:15:02It's a tremendous story and we're excited for the future. With that, we'll open the lines for calls. Operator? Operator00:15:14Thank you. And your first question comes from the line of Rupert Merer from National Bank. Your line is open. Speaker 400:15:41Hi. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on getting to the conclusion of that deal. Speaker 200:15:47Thank you. Thank you, Rupert. Speaker 400:15:49So if I can start by asking about the net cash proceeds of $1,600,000,000 What does the walk down look like from the sale price? How much of that difference is related to taxes, transaction fees versus construction debt repayment? Speaker 300:16:08Yes, I mean, Rupert, it's primarily the construction loans. There's very little tax friction on the deal consistent with our original expectations. So the majority of it would be construction loans and then really just the transaction costs and some of the break fees on the APCO bonds would be included in that as well. Speaker 400:16:29Okay, great. And that construction debt, is that debt that's currently off balance sheet or yet to be incurred on your development pipeline? Speaker 300:16:39Yes. As I mentioned, so we the balance is lower as of the end of Q2, but we expect it to get back to similar levels that it was, call it, around the $700,000,000 mark or just below that by the end of the year as we continue to build out ClearView and Carvers. Speaker 400:17:00Great. And then on the transaction itself, can you walk us through your thoughts on the valuation? How much of this is, say for your development pipeline versus your operating assets? And what's your perspective on the multiple that you're getting on the deal? Speaker 300:17:17Listen, we think it's an excellent multiple and a strong transaction. It's always hard to decipher what you're getting for the platform. But clearly, we see this as a with the earn out at 12.5 times type multiple of next year's EBITDA, like estimated EBITDA. And without the earn out, more like a close to 11.5. So really strong multiples and so clearly there was value seen and what the team's built over 30 years in the strong development pipeline and just the strength of the organization. Speaker 300:17:53So we're quite pleased with where that ended up. Yes. Speaker 200:17:56And Rupert, I think we said all along that in order for us to get to a sale of this business, we had to see value for the development pipeline. So we haven't tried to quantify that, but it's pretty clear to us that we did get paid for that. Operator00:18:19Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Sean Steuart from TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 500:18:28Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Congrats on getting this over the line. Chris, the 60% to 70% payout ratio on EPS, am I to take it that is from the starting point 2025 post this asset sale Or is that relative to where you would expect EPS to get to as your rate cases normalize I suppose? Speaker 300:18:56Yes, Sean, it's Darren here. Let me just jump in. The target payout has been set based on our current reg assets fully earning or earning closer to fully earning. Clearly, we're next year will be our 1st year as a pure play regulated utility. We're in a multiyear journey. Speaker 300:19:17And as Chris highlighted through his prepared remarks, we have the most active rate cases we've had in history plus the implementation of a major system. So from a timing perspective, we do expect some delays in 2025 with improvements in 2026. But just for clarity, that dividend rate has been set based on the current assets, including the $1,000,000,000 getting recovered in that $1,000,000,000 of investments we've already made that's not in rates. Speaker 500:19:47Okay. And then the follow on question there is you've indicated constrained capital investment in the regulated base and capital light approach putting these assets that haven't been recognized in the rate base. How long do you anticipate that capital light approach to last? And how does this feed into your expectation of midterm EPS growth off the reset base? Speaker 200:20:17Yes. Well, certainly, it really depends on how quickly we can advance the rate cases that we need to advance and our success rate on those. But I think we're talking about a few years. I mean that's the kind of time frame we'd be expecting. And at the end of the day, what we're really focused on doing is raising our game when it comes to how we work through things with regulators, how we actually make decisions around regulatory investments and how we just advance this business. Speaker 200:20:49There's a substantial amount of work going on to improve the accountability across the business and to improve the ability of our utility leaders to actually run those businesses. And all those things are going to be important parts of all this. Speaker 300:21:04Yes, John, we have to also we have to prove just that to what Chris is saying that we can add more capital in a disciplined way and get appropriate returns with very little regulatory lag. And that's I'm with Chris at probably a few years of restraint, but we do see growth after that. And from the kind of 2025 starting point, we see an ability really to grow earnings without growing capital. So just by increasing the returns and getting more efficient in the business. Speaker 500:21:34Understood. Okay. That's all I have for now. Thanks guys. Speaker 400:21:38Okay. Thank you. Speaker 600:21:42Thank you. Operator00:21:50Our next question comes from the line of Nelson Ng from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 600:21:58Thank you and congrats on the transaction. So Speaker 100:22:02the first Speaker 600:22:02question, I just want to have a quick clarification. In terms of the 11.5 to 12.5 times next year's EBITDA, is it roughly the run rate EBITDA of the assets, assuming that they're fully constructed and commissioned? And does it exclude the development expenses that you have within that business? Speaker 700:22:30Yes, you got Speaker 200:22:31it, Phil. Speaker 600:22:31Yes, you got it. Okay, perfect. And then the next question is more about capital allocation. Obviously, you will need to start the hydro sales process shortly if you haven't already started. But like with the proceeds, can you just talk about capital allocation in terms of debt reduction, share buybacks and I guess its utility growth sometime whether that's next year or the year after? Speaker 300:23:06Yes, Nelson. I mean really for us it's around getting that strong balance sheet, right size of the dividend. Primarily, this is all going to debt repayment. And of course, with that strong balance sheet, we will have some flexibility to make different choices from there. But the primary focus is really to be more self sustaining, earn on what we have today and just be in a position of strength. Speaker 200:23:34And I'd say, Nelson, we're not ruling out buybacks, but at the end of the day, it's flexibility that we want and strength in our balance sheet. Those are the 2 things that are primarily on our minds. And so, at the end of the day, we'll make those decisions as time unfolds. Speaker 600:23:52Okay. So primarily debt repayment, but not ruling out buybacks? Speaker 300:23:57Correct. That's right. Speaker 600:23:59Okay. Thank you. I'll leave it there and get back in the queue. Speaker 200:24:02Okay. Thank you. Operator00:24:06Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 300:24:16Hey, good morning, everyone. Speaker 200:24:18Can you give us Speaker 700:24:19a bit more yes, yes, lots to unpack here, very busy about the deal. Can you explain the sort of change in tone around utility spend? Originally it was that if the balance sheet was in a better position, you got the proceeds, you could accelerate spend. It's kind of going the opposite way here. I get the issues of regulatory lag, but just to understand what's kind of transpired over a few months here or quarter that really does have you really cutting back? Speaker 700:24:43Is it just more challenging regulatory environment, the push out into the rate cases? It does seem a bit of a departure from what you guys were signaling before? Speaker 200:24:53Yes. Well, so we still see that future as has been described as our future. But at the end of the day, we also believe we need to put a substantial amount of discipline into this business. And so as we work through accountability and how we want to structure and run our utilities, At the end of the day, the main word is discipline. And so we want to be absolutely certain that we understand when we a dollar of capital in the business, how we're going to recover that dollar of capital and how we're going to how that's going to advance our relationship with our customers, service to our customers and ultimately the value for our shareholders. Speaker 200:25:37And so that's really what we're working as we speak. And as I said, one of my three goals originally was to get the business up and running, the regulated business up and running as a normal regulated utility. And I've said to people all along for the past year that this utility was cobbled together. It wasn't running the way I would have expected it to run. And as we learn more about how it runs and the discipline that it And that opportunity to do capital light growth is one that is pretty unique and we're happy to be able to take advantage of that. Speaker 300:26:24And Mark, maybe just the only thing I'd just add to that is nothing has changed from our view that we originally came out with, which is the ability to invest $1,000,000,000 a year in this business. But I would say, I don't know if it's a change in tone because we think being very consistent, we need to get more discipline in the business. And if we don't have that right discipline, we can't go spend the capital. We need to be good stewards of the capital and do good things for our customers and for our shareholders. So you're seeing us we're not we need to be better on our returns and once we are there, we will spend more capital. Speaker 700:26:58Understood. And then Darren, coming back to the question of where does the proceeds go, it doesn't look like it's buyback. You did mention that the APCO bonds was a break fee. So I assume those get repaid as well as obviously the construction financing. If you think about then the residual proceeds, what you expect to get from Atlantica, Speaker 300:27:18you may be at a Speaker 700:27:19point where you don't have to pay more floating rate debt or variable rate debt and you'll be at your credit metrics. Will you sit on a cash balance for a while? Is that the expectation here as you work through the repositioning of the utility franchise? Operator00:27:33Yes, I think we'll continue Speaker 300:27:35to look at what's the most optimal capital structure is after I think there's lots of options to repay debt, but have the ability to obviously flex up credit facilities up and down. So we'll give more of that and we do plan as we've said before, we get closer to the closure of the renewables business to provide an Investor Day update to give you lots of the questions that I know you have. Speaker 200:27:59Yes. And just remember, a fair bit of time will pass before this cash actually comes to us. So that's another factor in this. It's going to take some time to get through the regulatory approvals and so on that we need for these investments for these transactions, including Ay. We're not sure exactly when that will get approved either. Speaker 700:28:21Right. And then just Darren, just a follow-up of improved disclosure sharing some views, pro form a utility business after the close of the sale. I know you're trying to infer to us where the earnings is going to be with the payout ratio, but is there something where you could actually show the trajectory as you go into 2025, 26, 27? Is it something where you think you could be a bit more explicit on the earnings outlook on an annual basis, whether that's guidance on a multiyear basis or just a cadence of the EPS uplift over time? Speaker 300:28:52Yes. No, absolutely, we will. Like I said, at an Investor Day, we'll give you as much transparency as we can, so that you understand what we're doing and what you should be holding us accountable to. We're not prepared to do that today, but we definitely will as we get closer to the closure of the deal give you more. Speaker 200:29:10Yes. And as we get into some of these regulatory processes, we'll have a better idea to when these things might close. So that will be the biggest factor is when do we actually see the proceeds. Speaker 700:29:24Understood. Thanks for the time today. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:29:26Thanks, Mark. Thank Operator00:29:30you. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call over to Mr. Chris Hoskinson. Speaker 200:29:40Okay. Well, with that, we'd like to thank everyone for their interest in Algonquin. And also, again, I want to thank the team from across the entire business that actually pulled this together. The folks in the renewable side and the folks across the business, this was a tremendous effort and obviously very successful. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Algonquin Power and Utilities Corp. 2nd Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Operator00:00:24Brian Chin, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:30Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our Q2 2024 earnings conference call. Speaking on the call today will be Chris Huskelson, Chief Executive Officer Darren Myers, Chief Financial Officer Jeff Norman, President of Renewables and Sarah McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer. To accompany today's earnings call, we have a supplemental webcast presentation available on our website, algonquapower.com. Our financial statements and management discussion and analysis are also available on the website as well as on SEDAR Plus and EDGAR. Speaker 100:01:01We would like to remind you that our discussion during the call will include certain forward looking information and non GAAP measures. Actual results could differ materially from any forecast or projection contained in such forward looking information. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in making the forecasts and projections reflected in such forward looking information. Please note and review the related disclaimers located on Slide 2 of our earnings call presentation at the Investor Relations section of our website at algonquinpower.com. Please also refer to our most recent MD and A filed on SEDAR Plus and EDGAR and available on our website for additional important information on these items, including the material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially and the factors and assumptions applied in making such forecasts and projections. Speaker 100:01:45On the call this morning, Chris will provide an update surrounding the Renewables sales agreement, which was press released this morning and on the company's ongoing strategic transition to a pure play regulated utility. Then Darren will review key highlights pertaining to our regulated and renewables business groups and our 2nd quarter financial results. Darren will also provide some color on the financial outlook following the expected sales of the Renewables business. And then Chris will close with some final remarks. We will then open the lines for the question and answer period. Speaker 100:02:12We ask that you kindly restrict your questions to 2, then re queue if you have any additional questions to allow others the opportunity to participate. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris. Speaker 200:02:22Thank you, Brian, and good morning, everyone. After being in the CEO role for a year, I'm more convinced than ever that our current path towards a pure play regulated utility supports our goals to create long term value, increase our quality of earnings and bring increased focus to improving our execution. A year ago, I set 3 priority goals: to sell the renewables business, optimize the value of Ay and to get the regulated business up and running. Today, I'm pleased to announce the successful sale of our renewables business at a valuation of $2,500,000,000 As we set out to accomplish in our 2023 strategic review, we've achieved a deal at a compelling value for our platform business with strong assets and scale. As we set out to accomplish sorry, excuse me, this agreement between Algonquin and LS Power for the company's non hydro renewable energy business consisting of $2,280,000,000 in cash proceeds and $220,000,000 in an earn out agreement relating to certain wind assets. Speaker 200:03:48I just want to take this moment to thank the team from across Algonquin for the tireless efforts that they put in. It was a great job team. Thank you very much. This major milestone coupled with our previously announced support agreement to sell our Atlantica shares delivers on our plan to transform Algonquin into a pure play regulated utility, optimize our regulated business activities, strengthen our balance sheet and enhance our quality of earnings. As Darren will touch on shortly, we expect to use the proceeds upon close in late 2024 or early 2025 to recapitalize our balance sheet and position ourselves for future growth. Speaker 200:04:41We're also making progress on our goal to get the regulated business up and running. We reorganized along commodity lines to improve operational efficiency. We recently completed the implementation of our Customer First Enterprise platform, which promises to deliver value to our customers and substantial efficiencies. We added 3 new experienced Board members with extensive infrastructure and regulated utility experience. We're implementing fundamental changes to how we operate the company with increased accountability. Speaker 200:05:20This is the beginning of a multiyear journey to unlock the value of our regulated business. In addition, we're making changes at the executive level. Yesterday, the company appointed Sarah McDonald as Chief Transformation Officer. In her new role, Sarah will assume responsibility for utility operations and customer service. Sarah is a lawyer by training and has more than 2 decades of legal, human resources and operational experience. Speaker 200:05:52She has a broad background having worked in the utility sector for more than 20 years, including roles in utility construction, as President and CEO of AmeriCaribbean and as President of TECO Services. As part of this announcement, Chief Operating Officer, Johnny Johnston has left the company. I'd like to personally thank Johnny for his dedication and service and his commitment as we wish him the best for his future endeavors. As we look forward, we're focused on delivering value to our shareholders in a more self sufficient manner. We see tremendous value in the business from investments we have made for our customers that are not yet in rates. Speaker 200:06:42We need to improve our recoveries, reduce our regulatory lag and absorb our growth. As a result, we will be reducing our regulated CapEx for 2025. Also as part of our objective to be more self sufficient, the Board has decided to right size the dividend. So we're not chasing a high payout ratio and excessive equity raises. These are necessary steps that we expect to unlock more value in the long term for our shareholders. Speaker 200:07:17Now let me provide more details on the business, starting with the investments not yet in rates. We currently estimate over $1,000,000,000 in assets are not yet authorized in rates or receiving optimized regulatory treatment. This represents a rare capital light path to earnings growth. An example of this is our Saravel Wastewater Treatment Plant in Arizona. The plant is an important and currently operating asset, enabling the local community to grow, but is not yet in customer rates. Speaker 200:07:54Another is our Customer First SAP program, which as I mentioned earlier, just completed its final implementation. Our investment in the platform has been approved in 6 of our smaller jurisdictions, but is not yet reflected in customer rates for the majority of our utilities. Our Customer First program is a world class platform designed to facilitate greater operational efficiency and utility integration or improved customer service. It's worth calling out that we are now in the typical post conversion adjustment period for these types of systems. Our system implementation combined with our most active rate case calendar in our history is causing some delays in our rate case filings, which we're working through. Speaker 200:08:48In terms of our rate case filings, I also want to call out changes to our expected regulatory calendar in of our jurisdictions, namely Missouri, New Hampshire and California. In respect to these jurisdictions, we're expecting delays of 1 to 2 quarters, which will shift the beginning of our recoveries closer to 2026. These delays will of course impact short term earnings. While we have some challenges in the short term, the substantial value here is a disciplined capital light trajectory to improve returns. With that, I'll turn it over to Darren. Speaker 300:09:26Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with the regulated services group. During the Q2 of 2024, we received the final order for our Belco utility in Bermuda, authorizing a revenue increase totaling $33,600,000 over 2 years. New rates became effective on August 1, 2024. In New York, we filed a joint proposal with the New York Department of Public Services staff resolving all contested issues and a final order is expected sometime in the Q3. Speaker 300:09:58The regulated services group currently has pending 14 rate reviews totaling $131,000,000 as of quarter end. Turning now to a brief update on our Renewables Energy Group. Our construction trajectory for renewables remains on track. Our construction loan balances fall into $405,000,000 due to the buyout of the Newmarket Solar and Shady Oaks 2 projects. By year end, we expect that loan balance to round trip back up to similar level where we started the year due to the completion of construction at Carvers Creek and Clearview. Speaker 300:10:33I'll now turn to our financial results. Our 2nd quarter financial performance delivered growth in each of our key financial metrics, EBITDA, adjusted net earnings and adjusted net earnings per share with double digit increases compared to the same period last year. Operating profit growth for both the regulated renewables business were largely as expected with regulated growing 7% and renewables growing 31%. Adjusted EBITDA was $311,000,000 up 12% from the same period last year. Adjusted net earnings were $65,200,000 an increase of 16%. Speaker 300:11:08On a per share level, our 2nd quarter adjusted net earnings per share was 0 point year. Let me briefly discuss individual EPS drivers. 1st, weather returned to a more normalized level, contributing approximately 0 point grew organically by $0.02 primarily due to new rate implementations at several of the company's electric, gas and water utilities. However, this was offset by negative $0.02 year over year due to last year's benefit of a one time retroactive rate order in California. Renewables also organically grew by $0.02 driven by contributions from new wind facilities Deerfield II and Sandy Ridge II brought online last year. Speaker 300:11:57This was offset by negative $0.01 due to development cost expenses in part as a result of the simplification of our JV entity as discussed in prior quarters. Depreciation contributed negative $0.02 and interest expense contributed a negative $0.01 excluding the impacts of our Empire bond securitization. And lastly, tax credits were a little better this year than we had projected being flat year over year. Turning now to key financing activities. During the quarter, the company settled the purchase contracts from its green equity units as expected, issuing approximately 76,900,000 common shares for proceeds of $1,150,000,000 These proceeds were used to reduce existing indebtedness and for general corporate purposes. Speaker 300:12:43We ended the quarter with approximately 767,000,000 shares issued and outstanding. With the conclusion of the equity unit remarketing and as of June 30, 2024, we have refinanced approximately $2,500,000,000 of our borrowings over the trailing 12 months and we have simplified our capital structure. As Chris mentioned earlier, we are pleased to announce the sale of our renewables business. The transaction proceeds and valuation are compelling. We expect to close the sale in late 2024 or early 2025 and receive net cash proceeds of approximately $1,600,000,000 after repaying construction financing and other customary adjustments. Speaker 300:13:29Proceeds from the renewable sale plus our Atlantica shares will leave us with a very strong balance sheet. In addition, as we look forward, we are making changes to be more self sufficient. We are looking at spending capital at a level just above requisite maintenance, safety and environmental requirements in order for the company to digest the impact of investments already made on behalf of our customers. Once we improve our returns to a more appropriate level, we will have the opportunity to increase our capital spending in a disciplined way. With regards to our newly reduced dividend, we see our revised dividend payout as roughly 60% to 70% of our optimized core regulated earnings power on our current assets. Speaker 300:14:13And although we are not providing guidance at this time, as described earlier, 2025 earnings will be impacted by rate case timing. With that, I'll hand it back to Chris for some closing remarks. Speaker 200:14:26Okay. Thank you, Darren. In summary, we've achieved several major milestones and are delivering on our plan to transform Algonquin into a pure play regulated utility. We're reducing our capital spend and dividend to position the company for greater long term value creation. As we look forward, we expect to have a solid balance sheet, a healthy payout ratio, a capital light path towards earnings and ultimately dividend growth, all under for the first time a focused company with a singular business model. Speaker 200:15:02It's a tremendous story and we're excited for the future. With that, we'll open the lines for calls. Operator? Operator00:15:14Thank you. And your first question comes from the line of Rupert Merer from National Bank. Your line is open. Speaker 400:15:41Hi. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on getting to the conclusion of that deal. Speaker 200:15:47Thank you. Thank you, Rupert. Speaker 400:15:49So if I can start by asking about the net cash proceeds of $1,600,000,000 What does the walk down look like from the sale price? How much of that difference is related to taxes, transaction fees versus construction debt repayment? Speaker 300:16:08Yes, I mean, Rupert, it's primarily the construction loans. There's very little tax friction on the deal consistent with our original expectations. So the majority of it would be construction loans and then really just the transaction costs and some of the break fees on the APCO bonds would be included in that as well. Speaker 400:16:29Okay, great. And that construction debt, is that debt that's currently off balance sheet or yet to be incurred on your development pipeline? Speaker 300:16:39Yes. As I mentioned, so we the balance is lower as of the end of Q2, but we expect it to get back to similar levels that it was, call it, around the $700,000,000 mark or just below that by the end of the year as we continue to build out ClearView and Carvers. Speaker 400:17:00Great. And then on the transaction itself, can you walk us through your thoughts on the valuation? How much of this is, say for your development pipeline versus your operating assets? And what's your perspective on the multiple that you're getting on the deal? Speaker 300:17:17Listen, we think it's an excellent multiple and a strong transaction. It's always hard to decipher what you're getting for the platform. But clearly, we see this as a with the earn out at 12.5 times type multiple of next year's EBITDA, like estimated EBITDA. And without the earn out, more like a close to 11.5. So really strong multiples and so clearly there was value seen and what the team's built over 30 years in the strong development pipeline and just the strength of the organization. Speaker 300:17:53So we're quite pleased with where that ended up. Yes. Speaker 200:17:56And Rupert, I think we said all along that in order for us to get to a sale of this business, we had to see value for the development pipeline. So we haven't tried to quantify that, but it's pretty clear to us that we did get paid for that. Operator00:18:19Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Sean Steuart from TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 500:18:28Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Congrats on getting this over the line. Chris, the 60% to 70% payout ratio on EPS, am I to take it that is from the starting point 2025 post this asset sale Or is that relative to where you would expect EPS to get to as your rate cases normalize I suppose? Speaker 300:18:56Yes, Sean, it's Darren here. Let me just jump in. The target payout has been set based on our current reg assets fully earning or earning closer to fully earning. Clearly, we're next year will be our 1st year as a pure play regulated utility. We're in a multiyear journey. Speaker 300:19:17And as Chris highlighted through his prepared remarks, we have the most active rate cases we've had in history plus the implementation of a major system. So from a timing perspective, we do expect some delays in 2025 with improvements in 2026. But just for clarity, that dividend rate has been set based on the current assets, including the $1,000,000,000 getting recovered in that $1,000,000,000 of investments we've already made that's not in rates. Speaker 500:19:47Okay. And then the follow on question there is you've indicated constrained capital investment in the regulated base and capital light approach putting these assets that haven't been recognized in the rate base. How long do you anticipate that capital light approach to last? And how does this feed into your expectation of midterm EPS growth off the reset base? Speaker 200:20:17Yes. Well, certainly, it really depends on how quickly we can advance the rate cases that we need to advance and our success rate on those. But I think we're talking about a few years. I mean that's the kind of time frame we'd be expecting. And at the end of the day, what we're really focused on doing is raising our game when it comes to how we work through things with regulators, how we actually make decisions around regulatory investments and how we just advance this business. Speaker 200:20:49There's a substantial amount of work going on to improve the accountability across the business and to improve the ability of our utility leaders to actually run those businesses. And all those things are going to be important parts of all this. Speaker 300:21:04Yes, John, we have to also we have to prove just that to what Chris is saying that we can add more capital in a disciplined way and get appropriate returns with very little regulatory lag. And that's I'm with Chris at probably a few years of restraint, but we do see growth after that. And from the kind of 2025 starting point, we see an ability really to grow earnings without growing capital. So just by increasing the returns and getting more efficient in the business. Speaker 500:21:34Understood. Okay. That's all I have for now. Thanks guys. Speaker 400:21:38Okay. Thank you. Speaker 600:21:42Thank you. Operator00:21:50Our next question comes from the line of Nelson Ng from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 600:21:58Thank you and congrats on the transaction. So Speaker 100:22:02the first Speaker 600:22:02question, I just want to have a quick clarification. In terms of the 11.5 to 12.5 times next year's EBITDA, is it roughly the run rate EBITDA of the assets, assuming that they're fully constructed and commissioned? And does it exclude the development expenses that you have within that business? Speaker 700:22:30Yes, you got Speaker 200:22:31it, Phil. Speaker 600:22:31Yes, you got it. Okay, perfect. And then the next question is more about capital allocation. Obviously, you will need to start the hydro sales process shortly if you haven't already started. But like with the proceeds, can you just talk about capital allocation in terms of debt reduction, share buybacks and I guess its utility growth sometime whether that's next year or the year after? Speaker 300:23:06Yes, Nelson. I mean really for us it's around getting that strong balance sheet, right size of the dividend. Primarily, this is all going to debt repayment. And of course, with that strong balance sheet, we will have some flexibility to make different choices from there. But the primary focus is really to be more self sustaining, earn on what we have today and just be in a position of strength. Speaker 200:23:34And I'd say, Nelson, we're not ruling out buybacks, but at the end of the day, it's flexibility that we want and strength in our balance sheet. Those are the 2 things that are primarily on our minds. And so, at the end of the day, we'll make those decisions as time unfolds. Speaker 600:23:52Okay. So primarily debt repayment, but not ruling out buybacks? Speaker 300:23:57Correct. That's right. Speaker 600:23:59Okay. Thank you. I'll leave it there and get back in the queue. Speaker 200:24:02Okay. Thank you. Operator00:24:06Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 300:24:16Hey, good morning, everyone. Speaker 200:24:18Can you give us Speaker 700:24:19a bit more yes, yes, lots to unpack here, very busy about the deal. Can you explain the sort of change in tone around utility spend? Originally it was that if the balance sheet was in a better position, you got the proceeds, you could accelerate spend. It's kind of going the opposite way here. I get the issues of regulatory lag, but just to understand what's kind of transpired over a few months here or quarter that really does have you really cutting back? Speaker 700:24:43Is it just more challenging regulatory environment, the push out into the rate cases? It does seem a bit of a departure from what you guys were signaling before? Speaker 200:24:53Yes. Well, so we still see that future as has been described as our future. But at the end of the day, we also believe we need to put a substantial amount of discipline into this business. And so as we work through accountability and how we want to structure and run our utilities, At the end of the day, the main word is discipline. And so we want to be absolutely certain that we understand when we a dollar of capital in the business, how we're going to recover that dollar of capital and how we're going to how that's going to advance our relationship with our customers, service to our customers and ultimately the value for our shareholders. Speaker 200:25:37And so that's really what we're working as we speak. And as I said, one of my three goals originally was to get the business up and running, the regulated business up and running as a normal regulated utility. And I've said to people all along for the past year that this utility was cobbled together. It wasn't running the way I would have expected it to run. And as we learn more about how it runs and the discipline that it And that opportunity to do capital light growth is one that is pretty unique and we're happy to be able to take advantage of that. Speaker 300:26:24And Mark, maybe just the only thing I'd just add to that is nothing has changed from our view that we originally came out with, which is the ability to invest $1,000,000,000 a year in this business. But I would say, I don't know if it's a change in tone because we think being very consistent, we need to get more discipline in the business. And if we don't have that right discipline, we can't go spend the capital. We need to be good stewards of the capital and do good things for our customers and for our shareholders. So you're seeing us we're not we need to be better on our returns and once we are there, we will spend more capital. Speaker 700:26:58Understood. And then Darren, coming back to the question of where does the proceeds go, it doesn't look like it's buyback. You did mention that the APCO bonds was a break fee. So I assume those get repaid as well as obviously the construction financing. If you think about then the residual proceeds, what you expect to get from Atlantica, Speaker 300:27:18you may be at a Speaker 700:27:19point where you don't have to pay more floating rate debt or variable rate debt and you'll be at your credit metrics. Will you sit on a cash balance for a while? Is that the expectation here as you work through the repositioning of the utility franchise? Operator00:27:33Yes, I think we'll continue Speaker 300:27:35to look at what's the most optimal capital structure is after I think there's lots of options to repay debt, but have the ability to obviously flex up credit facilities up and down. So we'll give more of that and we do plan as we've said before, we get closer to the closure of the renewables business to provide an Investor Day update to give you lots of the questions that I know you have. Speaker 200:27:59Yes. And just remember, a fair bit of time will pass before this cash actually comes to us. So that's another factor in this. It's going to take some time to get through the regulatory approvals and so on that we need for these investments for these transactions, including Ay. We're not sure exactly when that will get approved either. Speaker 700:28:21Right. And then just Darren, just a follow-up of improved disclosure sharing some views, pro form a utility business after the close of the sale. I know you're trying to infer to us where the earnings is going to be with the payout ratio, but is there something where you could actually show the trajectory as you go into 2025, 26, 27? Is it something where you think you could be a bit more explicit on the earnings outlook on an annual basis, whether that's guidance on a multiyear basis or just a cadence of the EPS uplift over time? Speaker 300:28:52Yes. No, absolutely, we will. Like I said, at an Investor Day, we'll give you as much transparency as we can, so that you understand what we're doing and what you should be holding us accountable to. We're not prepared to do that today, but we definitely will as we get closer to the closure of the deal give you more. Speaker 200:29:10Yes. And as we get into some of these regulatory processes, we'll have a better idea to when these things might close. So that will be the biggest factor is when do we actually see the proceeds. Speaker 700:29:24Understood. Thanks for the time today. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:29:26Thanks, Mark. Thank Operator00:29:30you. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call over to Mr. Chris Hoskinson. Speaker 200:29:40Okay. Well, with that, we'd like to thank everyone for their interest in Algonquin. And also, again, I want to thank the team from across the entire business that actually pulled this together. The folks in the renewable side and the folks across the business, this was a tremendous effort and obviously very successful. So thank you all for that and thank you for your time today.Read morePowered by