Home Bancorp Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Hohne Bancorp's 4th Quarter 20 24 Earnings. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Home Bancorp's Chairman, President and CEO, Jean Bartolome and Chief Financial Officer, David Kirkley. Mr.

Operator

Kirkley, please go ahead.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Thank you, Jennifer. Good morning, and welcome to Home Bank's Q4 2024 earnings call. Our earnings release and investor presentation are available on our website. I'd ask that everyone please refer to the disclaimer regarding forward looking statements in the investor presentation and our SEC filings. Now I'll hand it

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

over to John to make

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

a few comments about the year and the Q4. John?

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Thanks, David. Good morning

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

and thank you for joining our earnings call today from snowy Louisiana. We appreciate your interest in Home Bank as we discuss our results, expectations for the future and our approach to creating long term shareholder value. Yesterday afternoon, we reported 4th quarter net income of $9,700,000 or $1.21 per share, with net interest margin expanding for the 3rd consecutive quarter to 3.82%. 4th quarter's NIM expansion was driven by a 15 basis point decline in the cost of interest bearing liabilities, an increase in the average non interest bearing deposits, stable yields on interest earning assets and a slight increase in our loan to deposit ratio. After a slow October, loan growth picked up in November December, resulting in 4th quarter annualized loan growth of 7.5%, which helped push our 2024 loan growth to 5.3%.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

CRE, construction and multifamily drove most of the $50,000,000 of loan growth in the Q4. Originations have remained strong in the 1st few weeks of January, but it's too early in the year to change our guidance. Therefore, we will continue to expect loans to grow between 4% 6% in 2025. Deposits were flat from last year, but grew by 4.1% in 2024, with most of the growth coming from customers moving into money market accounts and CDs. Non interest bearing deposits were down slightly in 2,004, but make up a strong 26% of total deposits at year end.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

We continue to look at opportunities for strategic expansion, but as you probably know by now, we're not going to do a deal unless it checks all the boxes. We do plan to open a new branch in Northwest Houston, which should help develop the valuable franchise we're building there. As a reminder, at the beginning of 2024, we hired a commercial team in Northwest Houston and they're making great progress developing relationships. As I said last quarter, we feel very good about Home Bank's outlook and our ability to perform. We think our success in 2024 demonstrates that.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Our focus on customer service, expanding relationships with new and existing customers and maintaining our solid credit culture continues to build shareholder value and demonstrates the strength of our bank. We remain confident in our outlook and think that NIM and earnings will continue to expand in 2025. With that, I'll turn it back over to David, our Chief Financial Officer.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Thanks, John. After increasing for the last two and a half years, we saw a 15 basis point decrease in the cost of interest bearing liabilities in the 4th quarter, which as John mentioned supported a healthy 11 basis point increase in NIM. It also supported the 3rd consecutive quarter of increasing net interest income, which was $31,600,000 in the 4th quarter, an increase of $1,200,000 or 4% from the previous quarter. We think we have an opportunity to bring funding costs down incrementally over the first half of the year assuming the yield curve does not invert again. We have approximately $555,000,000 or 76 percent of CDs maturing in the next 6 months with a weighted average rate of 4.48 percent, which is about 40 basis points above Q4 origination rates.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

As you can see on Slide 18, we're able to reduce the weighted average CD rate by 26 basis points in the Q4. So we're already making good progress there. It also shows we haven't reduced rates on non maturity deposits as quickly as their blended rate is already a low at 1.73%. The bottom right table on Slide 20 shows our cycle funding betas and you can see that we are early in the process of easing deposit rates. We also replaced 135,000,000 dollars of 4.76 percent BTFP advances in the 4th quarter with lower cost short term FHLB advances.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Yields on earning assets were flat quarter over quarter at 5.82 percent despite the 100 basis points of rate cuts by the Fed. Reported loan yields were also flat at 6.43% from the prior quarter. We did see a 3 basis point boost in loan yield from the recognition of 189,000 dollars of loan income on a non performing relationship that paid off in December. Our loan portfolio is 61% fixed, which slowed asset yield increases when rates were rising, but now provides yield protection from Fed rate cuts and supports an expanding NIM. The steepening of the yield curve has also provided some spread expansion and should offer prepayment protection.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

As John mentioned, loan originations picked up in November December. The $50,000,000 of 4th quarter originations had a blended yield of 7.75 percent, which is about 130 basis points higher than our current loan portfolio yields. The increase in originations contributed to a higher 4th quarter loan loss provision of 800 and $73,000 and increased the loan to deposit ratio to 97.8 percent. Slides 14 and 15 of our presentation provide some additional detail on credit. Credit remains very strong with net charge offs of 4 basis points in 2024, which follows 0 basis points in 2023 and 3 basis points in 2022.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

4th quarter non performing assets decreased $2,700,000 to $15,600,000 or 0.45 percent of total assets. The decline was primarily due to an upgrade of a $3,200,000 C and I loan. Our allowance for loan loss ratio was stable from the 3rd quarter at 1.21%. Slide 21 of the presentation has some additional details on noninterest income and expenses. 4th quarter noninterest income decreased slightly to $3,600,000 and should be between $3,600,000 $3,800,000 over the next two quarters.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Non interest expense increased by $97,000 to $22,400,000 which was in line with expectations. We expect non interest expenses to increase by 3.5% in 2025. Most of the increases will be in compensation and technology related and will be offset by some reductions in occupancy expenses. We only repurchased 2,000 shares in the 4th quarter. We still have 312,000 shares on our 2023 repurchase plan and will be active buyers if market volatility warrants it.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Slide 2223 summarize the impact of capital management strategy has had on Home Bank. Over the last 5 years, we grew tangible book value per share at a 7.1% annualized growth rate, while growing tangible book value per share adjusted for AOCI at 9.2%. Over the same period, we also increased EPS at 8.3 percent annualized growth rate. We've increased our dividends per share by 20% and repurchased 14% of our total shares. And we've done this while maintaining robust capital ratios.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

This positions us to be successful in varying economic environments and to take advantages of any opportunities that may arise. With that operator, please open the line for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question is from Joe Iancunis from Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Joseph Yanchunis
Joseph Yanchunis
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial

Good morning.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Good morning.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Good morning, Joe.

Joseph Yanchunis
Joseph Yanchunis
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial

So I was hoping you could dig a little more into your thoughts on your expectation for kind of the NIM to expand throughout 2025. Is that inclusive of a static rate environment or does that include any rate cuts? I know that your balance sheet shift is being more neutral in posture. Just any kind of color you could give on that would be appreciated.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Yes, Lee, I mean, both in the base case and a slight rate cut environment, we do expect NIM to continue to expand as loans reprice higher and our CD portfolio has the opportunity to reprice a little bit lower. As we mentioned, we really weren't overly aggressive on cutting any much of our money market rates in Q4. We still have the opportunity to lower some of those costs a little bit. The bottom line is, it's the mix of our loan portfolio and the fact that we don't have as many variable rate loans. So we don't have as much pressure on declining loan yields from Fed rate cuts.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

We just have the opportunity to reprice higher and get a little bit of pickup with some higher yields in the investment portfolio, but not a significant amount from the investment portfolio pickup. But bottom line is just a mix of our maturing liabilities and being able to reprice loans higher than we have on the balance sheet right now.

Joseph Yanchunis
Joseph Yanchunis
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial

Okay. I appreciate that. And then in your response, you talked about and then as well as in your prepared remarks that you didn't really cut your money market rates in 4Q. Kind of given that uptick in your loan to deposit ratio, how should we think about kind of the down rate betas and the cadence as we move throughout the year?

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Yes. I think once again, our deposit betas may be a little bit slower on the non maturity deposit side just because we didn't really raise them as high as some of our competitors and had a little bit maybe higher CD rates towards the back half of twenty twenty four. We still have the ability to reduce some of our money market rates and we're actively managing them. We do have some pockets here and there that we can incrementally lower those money market rates without having really a significant impact on deposit runoffs. In December, we did see a decline in non interest DDA accounts that was more of a function of timing as opposed to customers leaving the bank.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

So we are optimistic that we're going to right size the loan to deposit ratio a little bit better than what ended at year end. And we may have to be a little bit more aggressive perhaps on money markets. We are seeing a little bit more CD competition, market price market prices rising a little bit in the CD space. So we are cognizant of that. Even with an uptick in new CD originations, we still are pretty confident that NIM will be expanding throughout 2025.

Joseph Yanchunis
Joseph Yanchunis
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial

Great. I appreciate that. And just one more for me here. So when is your Northwestern Houston branch expected to open? And I assume that's baked into your non interest expense outlook of the growth of 3.5%.

Joseph Yanchunis
Joseph Yanchunis
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial

And why would opening that other branch lead to a decrease in occupancy expense?

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

So there's 2 parts to that. We actually got out of our lease, our last lease from the Texan Bank acquisition in September of 2024 and that was their corporate headquarters. So that was a sizable chunk, which is going to help reduce occupancy expense in 2025. And we're looking at Northwest Houston, we're evaluating options, we're evaluating locations and we don't anticipate that opening till more towards the back half of twenty twenty five. And that's why we see a reduction in occupancy expense in twenty twenty five.

Joseph Yanchunis
Joseph Yanchunis
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Raymond James Financial

I appreciate it. Thanks for taking the questions.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Thank you.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

And

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

just to be clear, the Northwest Houston, we do currently have an LPO there and we're going to convert that to a full service branch.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is from Fadi Strickland from Optigroup. Your line is now open.

Fadi Strickland
SPEAKER at Optigroup

Hey, good morning. Just wanted to continue the expense question here. Appreciate the overall guide and the detail you just gave. But beyond the April 1 salary adjustments and that branch opening later in the year, which sounds like it may not be a huge expense since you already have the LPO there, is there any lumpiness to account for throughout the year on the expense side?

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Not specifically. As we said, you said raises take effect April 1, so you're going to see an uptick in Q2. We do have some projects that are planned throughout the year. But really, I don't foresee or expect any lumpiness. I'm sure something will come up, but we don't have anything baked in right now that would that looks that it is going to appear to be a significant impact to any quarter.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

One of the initiatives that we're bringing on actually brought on late Q4 and focusing on 2025 is changing customer behavior. And the end result of changing that behavior of utilizing branches to the degree that they do, we have 2 branches that we were analyzing right now, where 90% of the transactions are depositing a check or cashing a check. So if we can change the behaviors of our customer base, then surely that would have a positive impact on our expense base as we can reduce staff and potentially close some branches. So that's an initiative that we're working hard on. Not sure how far we'll get in 2025, but we're going to work very hard to change the habits of our customers to utilize more technology.

Fadi Strickland
SPEAKER at Optigroup

Got you. No, that's helpful. And just wanted to switch to loans. Just wondering if you could talk about what kind of loans you have in the pipeline? Will it be a sort of similar mix to what you did this quarter?

Fadi Strickland
SPEAKER at Optigroup

In longer term, where do you see the most opportunity for growth?

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Well, we're focusing a lot on C and I. We have done in 2024, probably a little more multifamily than we historically have done. But our leadership is dedicated towards more C and I loans and less non owner occupied. So I think that's going to be the focus going forward in all of our markets. If you look at the last 4 years, the relationship managers that we've brought in have all been C and I type lenders.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

So that's where we want to focus because it brings in the whole relationship. It's not a deposit eater, it's a deposit provider and has a wide variety of opportunities in the lending space. So that's going to be our focus.

Fadi Strickland
SPEAKER at Optigroup

Understood. That makes sense. And then on the loan side as well, I mean, it sounds like you guys think you can keep pushing yields up some here given some of the back book repricing and new production. But I was just wondering if you could talk about what you're seeing from the competition competitive pricing pressures on the loan side, whether there's any incremental changes quarter to quarter or any new entrants or anything like that that we need to keep in mind?

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

I think there was a little bit of pressure when rates were dropping in Q3. And then as long side of the yield curve kind of went back up in the Q4, pricing has somewhat stabilized a little bit. So if we're pricing off of prime, we do I think we have baked in 2025 basis point rate cuts. So we'll see rates come down a little bit there. But for the most part, as David pointed out in his script that we're still anticipating what's going to mature in 2025 and 2026 will have a higher yield for us than what it has currently.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

So we're still looking for that loan rate expansion.

Fadi Strickland
SPEAKER at Optigroup

Understood. And last question for me. Appreciate the guide on the non interest income growth. Can you talk a little bit about how much you expect from core fees versus gain on sale over time? I know it's a little tougher environment, but just wondering if you can talk about pipelines there and kind of where maybe we see that mix of fee income coming from in future quarters?

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Yes, that's a little difficult from the standpoint. Most of our fee income probably comes from the deposit side. We're not sure what CFPB is going to push down, what OCC is going to push down from CFPB on that regard. So there's potential problems in some of those fees, but you have any other comments?

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Yes.

David Kirkley
David Kirkley
Senior EVP & CFO at Home Bancorp

Yes. So some of the fee income that has been volatile is the SBA loan sales and mortgage loan sales. We do anticipate some uptick in that from 2024. We've been pretty successful at increasing our treasury management fees. As John pointed out, there's been a C and I focus and hiring the C and I lenders that are getting a lot more operating accounts and we've increased our treasury management platform over the past couple of years and that has driven nice increases year over year over the past couple of years and we continue to expect further development from that space as well.

Fadi Strickland
SPEAKER at Optigroup

Got it. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll step back.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Thanks, Kevin.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to John for any closing remarks.

John Bordelon
John Bordelon
Chairman, President & CEO at Home Bancorp

Once again, thank you for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with many of you in the coming days and thank you for your interest in Home Bancorp. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your

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