Foresight Solar H2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • 2024 saw solar resource 7% below budget—the worst in 20 years—although strong operational resilience limited overall impact.
  • Finished the year with 1.4× dividend cover on an 8p/share target and reaffirmed a 1.3× cover target for 2025.
  • Ongoing divestment programme includes sale of the Australian portfolio by Q3 2025 and further 75 MW+ disposals, with proceeds prioritised for debt reduction and shareholder returns via buybacks.
  • Revised investment manager fees to a 50:50 market-cap/NAV split and removed tiers, delivering ~19% cost savings and stronger alignment with investors.
  • A robust pipeline of 400 MW battery energy storage projects in Spain and targeted UK opportunities provides optionality for future growth amid grid reforms.
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Foresight Solar H2 2024
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Foresight Solar Fund Limited full-year results investor presentation. Throughout this recorded presentation, investors will be in listen-only mode. Questions are encouraged; they can be submitted at any time via the Q&A tab that is just situated on the right-hand corner of your screen. Please just simply type in your questions and press send. The company may not be in a position to answer every question it receives during the meeting itself. However, the company can review all questions submitted today and will publish those responses where it is appropriate to do so on the Investor Meet Company platform. Before we begin, as usual, we would just like to submit the following poll, and if you could give that your kind attention, I am sure the company would be most grateful.

Operator

I would now like to hand you over to the team from Foresight Solar Fund Limited. Ross, good morning, sir.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Good morning, and thank you for the introduction, and welcome to everybody on the call. We're here to run through the full-year results for 2024 for Foresight Solar Fund Limited. Let me just flip to the opening slides here. Yep, you've got myself, Ross Driver, Toby Virno. We also have available David Goodwin, our Finance Director, and you've got Matheus Fiero, our Investor Relations lead on the call as well. We'll kick off with the highlights, all the key headlines for the year in terms of here, because there's a number of key themes that I think we will dive into in a lot more detail. To sort of run through these for the year, I think those of you living in the U.K. at the moment, it won't be a big surprise that 2024 was not the sunniest year on record.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

In fact, actually, it was the worst year for sun hours for about the last 20 years since those detailed records began. In terms of that, though, we would say that actually overall the budget was 7% below budget, predominantly due to this lower solar resource, and about 6% down for the U.K. out of that. We will go through and we will talk through this in a bit more detail because we see this as a sort of one-in-ten-year event, not within the realms, outside the realms of possibility for our budgets and within the normal level of standard deviations. It was a bad year for the resource for the company, but on the back of that, it really did not have an impact on the company at all. We have finished the year 1.4x cash cover on our dividend target of GBP 0.08 per share.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

If that's the impact of one of the worst years we've gone on record, we think it actually speaks to the resilience of solar as an asset class and also our budgets that we'll go through in a bit more detail to show you that actually we've outperformed our budgets eight of the 11 years that we've been in operation. Another key item here is the divestment program that's ongoing. We have the sale process for Australia. That process has commenced. However, it has slipped slightly due to third-party inputs into that process. We are now targeting a deal there in Q3 of 2025. We'll go into this in a bit more detail. Along with the board, we have announced a further divestment program of 75+ MW of sales targets, with the proceeds from that being prioritized for capital repayment back to investors.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We'll go through this in a bit more detail as well because this is following engagement across the investor base at the moment. That focus on capital returns to investors at this point where not just ourselves, but the entire market is trading at significant discounts, predominantly, I would say, due to macroeconomic circumstances, is that there is that focus on the share buybacks, the dividends, and returning as much capital to investors as possible throughout 2024. You will probably have noticed that we, as manager, have agreed a revised fee structure with the board of directors, and that is now based on an equal weighting between market cap and NAV. We've also dropped the fee tiers alongside that. That has provided a circa 19% saving at the time that that was implemented and also aligns us much more closely with the investors, given that our fees are determined.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We can only get back to the same level by pushing forward a re-rating of the share price to the extent that we can control that. We do want to touch; we very much want to look to the future as well. We want to touch on the burgeoning development pipeline that we've got coming through, particularly in Spain at the moment, where we've signed a further deal to develop around 400 MW of BESS in Spain. We think that's going to be a very interesting market from a development perspective. We are also targeting opportunities in the U.K., just being careful to navigate at the moment around the potential changes to the grid and how that will impact projects coming through.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

The board has made some quite clear statements as well in terms of what they see as the strategic direction, not just of this fund, but the market as a whole. We will talk to that and how we, as the investment manager, are supporting them in that because there is undoubtedly going to be change coming within this sector this year and probably through to next as well. Just two points that we are really focusing on here on this opening slide. First of all is our U.K., the valuation of our U.K. portfolio and our assets, the ROC-backed subsidy projects that we have got in the U.K. Our valuation is GBP 1.10 million per MW on there. That is a comparable number against the rest of the peer group as well.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We do have questions around our discount rates and whether they should be changed at the current time, given the higher-for-longer rates environment. I think we also look at the other side of this is what goes through our cash flows, and we are quite comfortable in terms of that and that pricing at the moment. The only other point to pick up from there in terms of the general news is that we do still expect the dividend for 2025 for this year to be 1.3x covered. We think that really the conversation we have no concern about this year or next year, it's the rest of this decade and how you actually lock into those good power prices and fix at those levels in order to give the dividend cover going forward.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I'll just pause at that point and hand over to Toby, who will take us through the operational performance and budget.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Thank you very much, Ross, and good morning, everyone. In this first slide, we take a look at our energy yield performance track records. Forecast energy yield is arguably the most important underlying assumption for the valuation of a generation asset. Rightly so, at this time, there is a lot of focus in the market on energy yield forecasts, in particular in the wind sector, where recent years of underperformance have led to several funds revising down their budgets. What we're seeking to do on this slide and in the annual report is to present our track record in terms of variance versus budget when it comes to the production of our U.K. solar projects, which have now been in operation for over 11 years, to demonstrate the confidence that we have in our underlying assumptions.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

As you can see in this table, we have outperformed our production targets in eight of the 11 years, and in some cases, quite substantially. We also show our irradiation budget, which in broad terms is the underlying solar resource, the incident solar energy that falls on the panels and from which we generate electricity, and that has been above budget in nine of the 11 years. We have presented a couple of different plots to illustrate this on this chart in this presentation. If you look at the box plot on the right-hand side, you can see a relatively narrow interquartile range that evidences the reliability and low uncertainty with regards to year-on-year solar production and also the mean and median positions comfortably sitting above 0% variance. That means a positive variance versus budget.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Overall, we're extremely confident and proud of our track record in maintaining uptime for our sites and continuing to generate electricity when the sun shines. As we say, 2024 was somewhat gloomier than average. We would describe it as a P90 year, meaning that 90% of the time we would expect irradiance to be higher than that. Our base case assumption is based on what we call P50, where we assume that 50% of the time the level of irradiance would be exceeded. If we move now to the next slide, we can look at the performance of the global portfolio, and I'm afraid to say that the low irradiation resource was not just a phenomenon in the U.K., but we also saw below-budget irradiation in both Spain and Australia. We've already discussed the U.K. performance to a degree, so we'll touch on the other geographies.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Spain bucked the trend by actually outperforming budgeted production with high availability, meaning that we were able to capitalize on generation when the sun was shining. In Australia, the projects continued to suffer from high levels of economic tailwinds. This is a result of high levels of coal generation still being present on the grid, having not wound down as quickly as it was originally forecast. There has also been a proliferation of rooftop solar, and it is the utility-scale renewable generators that get squeezed in the middle, as these are the projects that the grid operators are able to dial down. We do anticipate that the economic tailwind situation should improve in years to come as coal projects start to be decommissioned, those connected to the Australian grid, and further flexible storage assets are connected, including those that are being developed by our own team out in Australia.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Overall, in spite of the poor weather conditions, the portfolio still generated over a terawatt hour of electricity throughout the year. That's enough to power 360,000 U.K. homes, a city's worth of consumption, which is an incredible contribution to the decarbonization of the electricity network. Just to put it in terms of carbon, for those who are interested, that's avoided carbon emissions of over 350 kilotons of CO2. In terms of delivering on our sustainability targets, we're very proud of the contribution that Foresight Solar continues to make in transitioning to a lower carbon economy. If we can move to the next slide, we're going to move away from production and look now at the revenue outlook for the funds over the coming three years. This is something that we've conventionally presented to demonstrate the high-quality revenue stack that Foresight Solar enjoys.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Now, the charts here tell a tale of two stories, really. Just to give a bit of an overview as to how to read these charts, we're looking at the total contracted revenue position for the global portfolio. The green band at the bottom represents subsidy income, primarily ROC income for our U.K. assets, but also subsidies that we enjoy in the Australian market. On top of that, we have a black band that represents our hedged or fixed electricity sales. That may be fixed forward prices with PPA off-takers. It may be long-term contracted off-take from corporate PPAs in Spain, or similarly, financial hedges, which the company can now put in place to manage its risk exposure following a structuring in the last year. On top of that, the yellow band represents our merchant electricity price exposure.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Now, the reason why I say this is a tale of two stories is because you can see a clear difference in terms of the total contracted revenues in 2025 versus 2026 and 2027. The reason for that is that following the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, we were able to enter into a high volume of forward power price fixes at extremely attractive levels amidst the European energy crisis. We saw this as an opportunity to secure very attractive pricing at unsustainably high levels, and we rightly filled our boots at this time. The reason why we're only able to do so out to 2025 and the start of 2026 was due to liquidity that was available in the market at the time.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

As we can see, we have extremely high levels of contracted revenues for 2025 at circa 88%, and this is at good pricing in terms of our average electricity sales price. This gives us a high degree of certainty behind the 1.3 times dividend cover target for 2025. Looking now to 2026 and 2027, we can see the outlook for power prices in the U.K. and other markets is normalizing. This means also that our approach to risk management returns to more normal levels also. Typically, as a matter of policy, we target total contracted revenues of circa 75%. This means we retain an appropriate level of merchant exposure so that we do not miss out on volatility spikes to the upside, for which there is a skewed basis in terms of the risk exposure of the fund.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

What we do, however, do is continue to build our hedged position from years ahead until a two-year horizon where we aim to meet our policy targets. That can clearly be seen in these charts. For 2026, we are currently hedged to the tune of 69% of total revenues, total contracted revenues, that is. We continue to opportunistically add to this at levels that are accretive to NAV and dividend cover. We have been able to continue to do this in spite of a softening backdrop of power prices by including further avenues for hedging our power price exposure, whereas historically we have managed our exposure with single traditional PPA off-takers who have both acquired our renewable obligation certificates, REGOs, and also purchased our power, offering at times attractive forward prices.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We have since become dissatisfied with the level of liquidity and pricing that they were able to offer and have sought to expand this further by introducing financial hedging counterparties into the U.K. portfolio. Through these relationships, in the first quarter of this year, we have been able to execute accretive and attractive hedges on both on a base load basis and also on our traditional PPA pairs produced basis. This means we have continued to build our hedged positions going forwards. This is the same strategy we have followed for years, and it represents an evolution of our approach and an increased number of tools to manage our risk exposure, overall allowing us to optimize our revenue stack going forwards. We are now going to move on to the next slide to look at the financial gearing position for the fund.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Really, versus the half year, there is not too much to report out of the ordinary. We have continued to pay down our debt in the regular amortization of our long-term facilities, which are fully hedged against interest rate movements and amortized with terms coinciding with the end of the long-term contracted revenues, such as our subsidies or corporate PPA off-take in Spain. We will continue to target repayment of the RCF. This will likely happen in chunks funded out of proceeds from disposals, some of which we will come on to talk a bit more about in the coming slides. One initiative that we do want to flag to the market at this time is the translation of a portion of our RCF borrowings to EUR.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

This is to take advantage of the lower interest cost, where the base rate of Euribor is circa 2% below that of SONIA, and this has generated a little under $500,000 of savings in the year. As we continue to hold this position, which represents over half of our RCF borrowings, we will continue to enjoy these savings going forwards. There also is a natural capital hedge for those euro-denominated drawings versus our euro-denominated holdings, meaning that this euro-denominated debt does not create an additional unwanted exposure for us. For the first time, we are presenting on the left-hand side of this screen our amortization profile alongside the revenue projections for the current portfolio.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

What we're aiming to demonstrate here is that by design, we have taken a prudent approach in our capital structuring, where you can clearly see that debt is fully repaid at the point at which our subsidy revenues and long-term contracted revenues roll off. This means that in the absence of any reinvestment, the portfolio would enter at the point at which it is fully merchant in terms of its revenue characteristics, would be unlevered, providing maximum flexibility for us to look to reconfigure and optimize the portfolio, whether that's through repowerings or looking to target further long-term contracted revenues. The assumption that we emphasize here is that these charts do not assume any recycling of capital or reinvestment in the portfolio, which is clearly critical to sustain the valuation of the portfolio and to generate capital growth and is a core part of the Foresight Solar strategy.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I'm going to move on now, and I'm going to hand back over to Ross, who's going to walk us through the NAV bridge for the period.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Thanks, Toby. I can see a couple of questions coming in that we'll try to address as we go through this as well. Yes, it's fair to say that the NAV has fallen quite a bit from where it was at the end of 2023. If we look at the sort of key drivers of that, if you take out the normal movements in terms of the dividend and the time value of money that will generally set each other off, outside of a lot of those, really what has happened, there are two. The power forecast has been a key part of that.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I see a question in here about the NAV falling quite a bit over the last year or so, or last couple of years, quite consistently. Will that be arrested at some point? I think it's fair to say that one of the biggest drivers here of the reduction in the NAV has been the power price forecasts. Ourselves, along with the rest of the market, use a blend of three consultant curves, especially the focus on the mid to the long term. It's less relevant in the very near term because, as Toby's just taken you through, we are generally quite well hedged in those areas.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

What is fair to say is that those things, as the prices have reached astronomical levels over the last couple of years, they're probably quite a bit slow and lag on the way up and also lag a bit on the way down. I think prices have got back to a much more normalized level. Actually, if you saw our last NAV, the impact from the quarterly NAV, it was pretty flat. I think it comes down to now where we are hedging into versus what the market says. The question is, this will be driven by these geopolitical events as well and what is happening to the gas price and the energy price. It is incredibly important that we do hedge out that position in the medium term as far as to the extent that we can.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think all I can say is that in the last set of power price curves that we saw coming in, there was actually a bit of an increase in the medium and the long term. I think these kind of large step-downs of where the prices have gone from the beginning of the year of about GBP 100 a MWh or higher through to where they dropped, they overcorrected, and now they have come back slightly. I am not going to see, short of another event, and it is always—I do not want that to be famous last words—but we see more of a normalization and not such a risk for such a drop in the power prices there as well.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

There has been another factor on top of that, which is also shown there in terms of the project actuals, and that is the impact of this being a low solar resource year. That is just because we had lower generation than forecast, and the power prices were slightly lower at times for the merchant element of that. Those are really two of the biggest drivers that are there. You'll also note that overall, the other part that actually brings down the NAV slightly is the, on a total NAV basis, the share buyback, which is reducing the size of the fund as well. However, on a pence per share basis, it is absolutely supportive as you're taking out and taking those shares out of it and has added GBP 0.011 per share back on a pence per share basis as well.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Just going to add that there was another question in there. I'd just like to see if we can have—we had a question here as well—which is the more important? Is it energy prices or interest rates? It's a very good question because they're both very important at the moment. I think the one thing that we would say is we've not changed our discount rates. The Bank of England base rate and what's happening with the 10-year gilt really feeds into a view of our valuations. It's probably the fact that there's not much of a route down from there is what is impacting the sector from a macro perspective and likely depressing the value of the whole sector and the whole alternative sector that we're still seeing a 10-year gilt of just around 4.7%.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

There was not much that helped that from the news coming out of the Chancellor yesterday either. We have to be—we have to be very clear in terms of our pricing and the valuation of our projects and sort of see, look, in a higher-for-longer environment, does that lead through to a drop in asset values? I think it is fair to say in terms of our ability to transact on the projects that we have got at the moment, we do not believe so. Could you start to see that in a higher-for-longer rate environment? Potentially so. We do see it attractive, particularly for our U.K. assets. We feel pretty confident from discussions in the market that we could trade at those values, the U.K., the Spanish assets, absolutely as well. That is true, but energy prices as well are equally important.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

You can see by the fluctuations in the NAV just this year. I guess the question is, with everything happening in the depression and the softening of power prices, as Toby's taken you through in the recent years, is there still that significant risk to the downside, or is there potentially more risk to the upside? I think we're at a much more balanced position now than we were sort of coming into this year, I think it's fair to say. The hedging strategy that we've got will allow us to sort of hedge forward into those markets and offer those in. In short, it's a very good question, each equally important to renewables funds in general. I'm just going to run through a quick update on the divestment program.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We sold down the first stake in the Lorca project over a year ago now, 50% sold there at a 21% premium to NAV. We have ongoing—we have the sale of our Australian portfolio that includes 170 MW of operational projects and the development stage BESS that we've built through there. That is a busy market. You do have to do a lot more in terms of getting third-party input from consultants in that market in terms of site-specific power curve studies, site-specific yield assessments to go through just because of the high levels of economic containment there. I just say we are in a process. We have several dozen investors interested in these assets, but it's getting those outputs from the advisors fully optimized.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

It is a strategic sale that we want to move forward, and it's just balancing off, making sure that we've optimized the sale case versus time. It is a function of that and the number of transactions going on in the market and the availability of consultants to be doing work at the moment. It is ongoing, and we do not see any specific risks to that process. It's just time at the moment. We have also announced the sale of a further 75 MW from across the portfolio. We have said that that will be operational projects, and that leaves us both the Spanish and the U.K. portfolio.

Operator

We've heard you have lost Ross temporarily. We might be back now. Ross, can you hear us?

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Can you hear me at the moment?

Operator

Hi, guys. I can confirm you're both live.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Yep. Okay. Sorry.

Operator

You're back.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Yeah.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

If I cut out at that point talking about the further divestments. We have, yes, it is 75 MW from across the portfolio. It will be operational projects. That means either U.K. or Spain. We are preparing those projects to take to market in Q2 2025, in the next quarter. We are not going to specifically say which assets they are. There is potentially a couple of ways of getting there, but it is the decision that the board is taking now specifically to be looking to return further liquidity to shareholders that are seeking it out of that process as well. That is something we will be taking forward and we will report on. Let me just flick to the—if we flick to the next slide. Toby, do you want to just run through the development pipeline?

Operator

Hi, Ross. It looks like we may have just lost Toby.

Operator

Let me just reconnect him through.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Yep. I can pick this up in the first instance. What we're talking through here is we're showing the outline of our development hopper as we see it. We've currently got two pipelines there now in Spain. We've got our solar pipeline of just under 500 MW, six projects across in the east and the south of the country. The first project we see coming out of that, Project Muel, will hopefully be getting there later this year in terms of being brought to a ready-to-build stage. We've got another site that's currently seeking its grid connection. Earlier in the year, we signed a framework agreement with a battery developer, a JV, to take forward, and we're currently bidding into that market. We have about 10 projects in the pipeline. We'll be continuing to bid into that to secure capacity.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

The regulator is looking through provisions to take forward a capacity market later in this year as well. I think what we'd say is we are looking at that as pretty much a pure development play at the moment. We're not saying that we are going to be necessarily building out. There's projects in the Spanish market. We would want to know more about how that capacity market forms. From the entry point of what we've got into that pipeline with the developer to where we believe the value of projects are on a consented and ready-to-build basis, we think there's a development flip to be made there in terms of doing that.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

This is all about providing optionality to the fund in terms of being able to bring forward projects where we get to a point that the funds are going to need to continue to invest in assets as we go forward as well. Otherwise, the NAV will decline over time. We are also very conscious and realistic that we do not have—short of bringing in third-party capital that we are considering as well—that we do not have the capital to build these projects out. We want that optionality. The reality is at the moment, as these projects come through, we will probably be selling the project rights in the market and returning that capital into the capital allocation program. It would probably see either enhanced buybacks or pay down of debt at the moment. Just move forward from that. I'll just carry on with this at this stage.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

has been some quite specific messaging here from the board, and we want to run through it in terms of what that means for investors as well. Both the board and the investment manager are working together in terms of this. There is a keen focus on capital allocation at the moment. We have announced a further sales process with the capital from that being targeted on returning money to investors. Also, reducing debt at the moment remains a critical part of that. We have said previously that proceeds from the Australian portfolio would go towards that. As Toby has mentioned already, we are looking—we have converted a significant proportion of our RCF, the only variable rate debt that we have, into EUR to take advantage of the difference between the savings on being in Euribor versus SONIA at the moment.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

In terms of capital returns, we've bought back 24.5 million shares in 2024. I think I saw a question in there about what is the buyback program for the moment. We are committed to carrying on that buyback program through to the 50 million. You also see that there is a view there that we will take a view alongside the board as to whether to extend that in its own right. There is this new bunch of divestments here, the 75 MW+, that is earmarked for return of capital as well. We do see the continuing benefits in buybacks. Talking to many of our investors, the view is if you can buy your own shares back at circa 30% discount in the market, there are only a few things that can actually outbeat that.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We do think modest levels going into development stage projects have the ability to sort of at least compare with that. We are talking very small amounts of money in the grand scheme of things. In terms of governance as well, the board has renegotiated the investment management fee with us. As we said, that was a circa 19% saving at the time. There is a very clear succession plan now. The board, we have had Tony Roper appointed to the board, who will become the future chair and will take over later in the year, which is the plan. We have also brought a gentleman, Paul Masterton, on board, who was the SID at 3i Infrastructure, and will pick up that role as well.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think we've got challenging times in the markets, and I think we're bringing some very high-quality people on to support the existing directors and to pick up from when others are stepping down, which is the right thing to do. I just say there's a very good cohesion between the board at the moment in terms of everybody working together on that and wanting to push forward a number of shareholder governance meetings. Probably just flip to the next slide because I just want to explain to everyone on the call. There were some specific statements out there that the chair made in his statement this year as well. There's been a lot of, particularly more for the retail investors as well to get a sense of this.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

There's been a lot more meetings with shareholders and stakeholders, particularly the institutional asset managers, the wealth managers, everybody that we sort of throughout the top 50 of the register who we meet with on a regular basis. We've also done a shareholder perception study, and there's continued engagement. I think for us, specifically in terms of our shareholder register, there is quite a—there's a difference of views of people in there. There are people that are sort of long-term in this sector, the large managers as well, who are very happy in this and want to see in it for the yield. They realize that obviously the discount that the shares are trading at at the moment is not ideal, but are sort of sympathetic.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

In fact, a lot of this is down to the macro environment, and there's only so much that can be done until things turn around in that sector. They do want that exposure. If there's one point, though, that we'd probably like to see this in a larger, more liquid vehicle as well. There are a certain number of investors that would just like to see liquidity and see money return to them at the moment. Not necessarily everything, but are taking the view that, look, in the good times, you guys have grown and we've supported you. These are tougher times now. You need to shrink for the time being and return money to investors as well. There are some very strong voices for that.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

It is fair to say that ourselves and the board are trying to look through and get to what is a route forward that is in the best interest of the majority of shareholders in terms of this currently. Where the board are and the statement that they put forward is that, look, they want to be seen as being proactive and taking a proactive approach to these challenges because the situation in the markets has been going on for a couple of years now, and there is not an easy and obvious route out of this. As I said earlier, I do not think we can rely on the gilt rates necessarily coming down in the short term, at least to an extent that they are going to trigger a full-scale re-rating of the sector.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

There is going to be a necessity to return capital out of the funds, but that will also shrink the sector as well. I think what I would say is that we've worked very closely with the board in terms of the divestments that we've outlined and earmarked at the moment. We think even with selling those, that we would retain our position within the FTSE 250, which is important for liquidity in the shares as well. You don't want to be selling off so much that you just become a smaller illiquid vehicle. However, there is a reality of it that a lot of investors want to see those bigger vehicles and therefore that the board has put out the message there that they do see consolidation will play a key role within this. It is a critical part of their strategic considerations.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

They are currently actively considering all options available to provide the best outcome for shareholders. I could just say that from our perspective as the investment manager, look, we do very much believe, as I think Toby did, we believe that our investment thesis is that we need to be giving a greater—the company will continue to give a strong yield. No doubt about that in terms of the performance of the operational portfolio. It is how do we give that level of capital growth at the moment? Because investors are looking at it and saying, "Look, even with your yields where they are, it is a sort of 7% if you are trading at NAV, we are currently giving a sort of 10% yield." As the analysts would say, you are pay-to-wait at the moment.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Is that enough for investors when they look at what they can get through putting money into yields, sorry, into gilts and other more fixed income products? We do very much think that there is a necessity there to drive another sort of 1%-2% increase over our base at the NAV to try and give an element of capital growth in here as well. That is very much what the development pipeline is designed to do and we think we can add that level. If we have a conveyor belt, we probably need to get that development pipeline up to 2 GW-3 GW.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

You have a conveyor belt of projects coming off every year that initially we may be having to sell those rights and recycle them back in, but we could get to a point where we were actually a self-funding model and could take cash from some of those to put into new projects to continue to grow the fund. We absolutely believe that that is the right model for the sector. The question is, are the markets going to give us sufficient time on a standalone basis to do that? That is the question that we have here. If you want my personal view on it, I think we have seen elements. I will touch on a couple of questions that we got into to the extent that I can because I think there are some very good points being made in the Q&A here.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think we probably will see more consolidation in this sector later in the year. I think the board is right to be on the front foot of that because you are better being proactive than simply having things happen to you and look to be on the front foot in terms of having these discussions. As the investment manager, clearly that is both a risk to us, but also we would see it as an opportunity. We are aligned with the board and providing them our support to look forward to see what options can be achieved and what can be done to help drive the re-rating of the sector. We are going to prepare those further divestments, and we are proactively providing the board with market inputs and options from ourselves as the manager. This will be a board-led process at the end of the day.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We feel we are very much aligned with shareholders to drive a share price re-rating as well. I'll just have a quick look through because there were a couple of questions there that I'll try to answer. I think there's one I can see here around, yeah, picking up, I think, some bids that have been in the market. Could you put a number of funds together as the manager? I think there's been many other funds that we manage as well, other funds that may be bid for. I think there's really a question here about what it will come down to, what do the majority of investors want? Would they be happy with a more mixed vehicle? I think there are obvious things that we could do and we could present as manager, or would investors on the whole prefer to stay in more pure-play vehicles?

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

That has differing views throughout the shareholder base as well. Some things are easier to achieve than others. I think it's fair to say that a lot of things are being looked at in terms of that regard. There are the options that we can put forward from the manager, and the view ultimately rests with the board in terms of what they think is in the best interest of shareholders. A lot of those things are being considered. We can just say that. Just trying to see the questions that are directly related to this point as well. Are you looking at mergers to increase the size and liquidity? I think you can't say specifically at this point that those things. I think all options are on the table in terms of that.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think the statement there of what a lot of shareholders are looking for themselves is likely exposure to the sector. However, would like to see this in a bigger, more liquid vehicle. It's exactly that. That is forefront of the board's mind in terms of their thinking of it, really. Question there between the percentage between institutional and retail investors. Retail is a very important part of our book at the moment. This is why we like to have these questions. I'm looking through these. We'll try to answer as many of them as we can this afternoon. I encourage you to send more through on the system or through to Matteo as well. Retail is getting up to about, I think it's around 15%-16% of our book at the moment.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

are a lot of large platforms out there between the large ones. When you tally everyone up, retail is a very important part of our book. We know it is attractive. Look, ourselves, investors in the sector, encourage family members too over the periods as well, as long as you look at it as a long-term investment. I think, especially at the moment, you can get some absolutely fantastic yields out there. It is the same point. You need to be looking at this as a long-term investment that is giving you that yield. It may be that you have to stay in it for a while at the moment to enjoy that. Like I say, as the analysts say, you are pay-to-wait out of that. I think we will circle back on some of these at the end because they are probably less relevant to that.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We'll just pop that out. I'll just hand back to Toby for a minute to run through some of the key points that we see sort of on the regulatory perspective and on the consultations as well.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Cool. Fantastic. Hopefully, you can all hear me loudly and clearly now after some technical difficulties earlier. We're pleased at this time to be able to provide some updates in terms of in particular. We've had a few periods with promises of consultation responses and updates from various regulators. In the last six months, there's actually been some action and some reforms coming through. We're going to start by talking about grid reform. This is primarily around the grid queue connection process in the U.K. There are two, I guess, terms that you may well have read about in the press.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Firstly was the Gate 2 criteria against which projects will be assessed, those that are waiting in the grid connection queue, and also Clean Power 2030 or CP 2030, as it's commonly known. The aim of these reforms is to change from a first-come, first-served basis for those projects applying to connect to the grid to a first-ready, first-connect basis. This means that projects that are better progressed with a reasonable prospect of actually being delivered will jump to the front of the queue, provided that they are aligned with the strategic direction for the U.K. I mean that the grid operator has nominated certain regions of the country for different technologies, allocating capacities essentially in buckets for those different parts of the network to connect these new projects.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

From a Foresight Solar perspective, we have relatively limited exposure in terms of projects that are yet to connect to the grid in the U.K. However, those that we do have in the form of our pre-construction battery projects are incredibly well placed, having been very well progressed by our internal portfolio and construction management teams. We expect their positions in the connection queue to be protected under the shake-up that is due to happen in May of this year. We are going to touch also on the planning bill that is currently going through the House. The intention of the government is to remove some of the barriers to development for critical infrastructure. That should include renewable generation assets such as solar and battery storage.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

This clearly, as of yesterday, is a key goal for the government to try and drive economic growth, not just through building houses, but also through developing our energy infrastructure to mean that businesses can flourish and homes can continue to benefit from the low-cost renewable generation that we are growing at home. We expect that the combination of these two reforms should see Foresight Solar as being a very well-placed partner for developers in this country. The very best developers will see a great opportunity to grow the delivery of their pipelines, and they will need funding partners to do that. We are continuing to have a number of conversations with developers around structuring potential co-development models.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Finally, we're going to touch on some of the open consultations that will impact the market, the most prominent being the Review of Electricity Market Arrangements, which has been in the market for some time now. We are promised that there will be feedback from this late this year in the late summer. Whilst they started with a wide range of possible outcomes for the operation of the U.K. electricity market, it seems like there is a direction of travel towards zonal pricing, the aim being to give greater locational signals to connect projects closer to demand and where resource is best used. From a solar fund's perspective in the U.K., particularly where our portfolio is located primarily in the south of England and in Wales, close to demand centers, we actually see the impact of zonal pricing as being either neutral or perhaps skewed to the upside.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

The reason we are not more bullish here in terms of saying that our projects will benefit from being close to demand centers is that we anticipate that such a reform of the market could well see some uncertainty for investments, which could impact valuation of projects. We are very much reserving judgment until we see the feedback from the consultation later this year. However, we do not see a material downside risk from any such reform. From a practical perspective, we think for the government to be able to hit its 2030 and 2050 targets, it pays to give investors the greatest certainty possible. We think that the most advantageous parts of any reform will be improvements in the terms of CFDs for newly connecting projects in the U.K. That should be supportive of our development strategy.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

There is also the outstanding Fixed Price Certificates consultation, which will impact ROC-backed projects. There has been no movement on that, and there's been radio silence as far as we're aware in terms of progress there. Again, we do not expect a material downside. There is potential for improvement in pricing of ROCs to come through and greater certainty of the levels of pricing. However, based on the levels of ROCs still in the market, there isn't really a requirement for such a price stability initiative until the 2030s based on our analysis. We expect that that may be the outcome of the consultation and the analysis that they are running. As we say, we'll report more on that once we actually hear back from the regulator. Going to hand back over to Ross for some closing comments and a summary.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Yeah.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Just to summarize here in terms of the performance overall, yes, I'll come on to a couple of questions. Yes, look, 2024 was not a good year for solar resource. We're not going to hide from that. I think it also shows the resilience of the portfolio. I mean, the U.K. portfolio is down 6% in the worst year we've had so far. If that's the worst year, I think we'll take that, to be honest. I did see a question around this as well. Does that mean that we should be revisiting our yield assessments for the portfolio as you did? I think if we go back to the slide that Toby took us through earlier, we don't think we're in the same position of when funds would have had several years of below-budget performance.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think the fact that our input resource, the irradiation, the level of solar, yes, it was down last year, but of 9 of the 11 years to date, we have actually outperformed. I think this is a very key thing for the investments and investors to look at across the sector, is how are people performing versus their budgets on an annual basis. It is a key thing that drives the valuation. If you are more aggressive on that, you might have a higher valuation, but you might be less likely to hit that yield target every year. We try to put out a balanced position. In terms of overall production, we have been above 8 of the 11 years. We think we are actually, with those charts and the distribution charts there, we think we are in a balanced position.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We'll obviously continue to monitor that over the next couple of years, but we do see the last year as being a sort of one in 10 year. I think it's fair to say that actually where we've started this year is more on a normalized basis. It is absolutely the—that's why we've looked to address that head-on because it's the right question to be asking. I think we've continued outside of that. We can't control what level of sun there will be in each of our markets, but there is good availability across the portfolio and a value-accretive power price and hedging strategy here. I've talked to you through the corporate actions. We're saying probably about as much as we can at the moment in terms of everything that the board is considering at the moment. There will be that additional liquidity.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

The board wants to be seen as taking a proactive approach to the current market challenges and being on the front foot of that. I can just say, as an investment manager, we are looking to support them because we do not think it is actually helpful to pretend that nothing is happening and keep your head in the sand. There are, as Toby just said, both industry tailwinds and strong support for renewables continuing here in the U.K. and Europe, but it is not without its risks as well in terms of some of these changes that we would see coming through.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think what we would hope for sort of regulatory reform, especially in the U.K. and things like that, that it's a process of evolution as opposed to revolution because if you completely tear up the market and start again, the only thing that will do will kill investments into the U.K. It is not the time that I'm sure the government actually wants to do that. I will leave it there in terms of the presentation. I'm just looking back and I can see, look, we're just trying to answer here as many of the questions that we've seen come through as possible. I've just got a question there for how likely is it for the discount to narrow over the year?

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think that's a really difficult one to answer because I think in terms of the macro side of things and where the gilt are, if there was a significant drop in the gilt rates over the 10-year and 20-year, I think we would start to see the sector as a whole. It would lift all boats. Is there a key route through to that? I don't see that currently at the moment. I think things may moderate and drop over the next year or two slightly, but we're certainly not going back to the rock bottom gilt yields and bank rates that we've seen during the last decade. That's for sure. That's one reason why you need to look at providing higher returns to investors to make this more attractive.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I do think it's got to the point now where it will probably be down to more corporate action. We've started to see elements of that. We've started to see bids for other companies that are coming into the sector, the BESS portfolios that have been raised there. This is coming, and I think this is going to happen. That will be one probably more sector-wide factor that will help in some ways to show a re-rating and make a case for the valuations. Question there in terms of how are we selecting the divestments in terms of looking at those. I think, like we said, we've only got a couple of portfolios left to sell out.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think a key consideration for us is how easy those projects are to sell and bundle from the existing portfolios, which is relatively straightforward to do, and especially more if they're operating on a standalone basis. We also have quite a key—we look over what the impact on dividend cover will be as well. I think if you're saying one thing that we do note as well is if we are selling off those projects and actually using that to return capital and clear out shares from that, that has the ability to boost the share price depending on the point at which you're transacting.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Because if you can buy back those shares in the market at a lower price, I know a lot of investors will want to see them coming back at NAV, but maybe you are somewhere between the current share price and NAV out of that. That will give a boost to the dividend cover as well. I think there were questions around sort of expectations on levels of capital to be returned out of those solutions. We are not going to put specific numbers on them. I think us coming out of around NAV for these at the moment in terms of this market is a good result. We will try to outperform that as we have before. I think it is fair to say that, look, our expectation would be to materially be able to pay down the RCF whilst also returning capital to shareholders as well.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

That's probably about as much as I'll be pushed to say at the moment. Question there. Sentiment is for softening of energy prices. Yeah. The homeowners, yeah, I don't see my electricity bills going down either as well at the moment. The cap went up. I think it's fair to say there's a lag on the cap in the market in terms of that. We all hope that the drive to solar renewables and some of the softer pricing that we're seeing in the markets will feed through to that. I think the high power prices over the last couple of years have been helpful to the sector in the fact that we've been able to lock in at those prices. It's given us that good dividend cover for the last few years.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We all knew that those were—we would have traded those away for more certainty in the longer term. Those were completely unsustainable. They have hurt us, and they have hurt everybody. They have hurt us in the longer run as well. I think the key thing is being able to, as we see those softening power prices come through, that actually it will be interesting to see what moves the government do take in terms of being able to, with a view to being able to lower bills for households as well. I think some of that has been factored into the current price forecasting.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think as long as we can see those kind of power prices that we want to get to and around the sort of low to mid-GBP 60 a MW hour, which is maybe just slightly above the historic average from pre-pandemic, although you have an inflationary impact there as well, we see ourselves as being in a pretty good place to continue to hedge and lock in our dividend cover for the rest of this decade. Just a question, maybe one more on process. AGM is held in Jersey. It is where the fund is domiciled. Is there an opportunity for retail investors to meet board and manager? It's something we can pick up if there is demand for that and see if there is potential for doing a satellite at the time. U.K. reforms, you're increasing your U.K. development activity to take advantage.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think it's fair to say, and Toby, you can touch on this slightly if you like. I think we have multiple. So we're really happy with the development pipeline that we've got in Spain at the moment. The idea was to be to replicate something similar in the U.K. of similar scale of around 1 gigawatt. We've got multiple conversations going at the moment. I don't think finding partners for that is going to be an issue for us as a house and the number of relationships that we have. I think we're just being more selective given the—I’m just conscious of our timing given the potential changes in the grid at the moment. Toby, do you want to add anything?

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Yeah.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I mean, as a house, on behalf of other funds under Foresight management, we work with a number of developers under similar style co-development models that have been very, very successful. We're very much looking to replicate those models for the benefit of Foresight Solar. The U.K. home market continues to be a key target for us in terms of expanding our development activity. Yeah, we've got it very close to the ground. We've got a number of conversations ongoing with experienced developers in the U.K. market.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Yeah. I think we're getting through these. Just a question. Is there a point at which it becomes advantageous to start using latest technology to replace existing panels, understanding that subsidies might be lost? Toby, do you want to put that? I mean, it's the big question about repowering.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Why are we not necessarily doing it at the moment that the views do roll off? Do you want to pick that up?

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

No, absolutely. The questioner is absolutely right that you are constrained in your ability to, I guess, further optimize the sites during the ROC accreditation period as you are capped in terms of your installed capacity and what you're allowed to replace. You're allowed to replace like-for-like in terms of maintenance, but not allowed to significantly repower or up-power your projects. Otherwise, you would invalidate your subsidies. In practice, that means that any material repowerings are unlikely or unlikely to be economically viable until you get towards the end of the ROC regime. However, clearly, there is value in the grid connection infrastructure that's already been deployed at these sites.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

The remaining term on the lease agreements, none of this is reflected in our valuation, but it is certainly something that, as a house, we are very keen to continue to explore. We have excellent relationships with our landowners. All parties fully recognize that these projects can well be optimized once you have the flexibility to do so. I would say for solar, where projects are slightly younger on average and have more time left to run on their subsidies, there are probably a few more years until kind of repowering activity and development really starts in earnest. However, it is definitely kind of front of mind for us when thinking about how to further optimize the value of our projects. We have brought through to date about GBP 86 million of additional upside value. That is through lease extensions. It is through advantageous power price optimization.

Toby Virno
Toby Virno
Associate Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Looking at all avenues for enhancing value for shareholders is something that our portfolio team works on day on day.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

I think we've pretty much managed to cover everything off there. It was just a question about new technologies we'd be looking to. Yeah, I mean, we are absolutely, when the wider group is sourcing panels elsewhere, we maybe source the panels ourselves and then hand them over to the contractors, looking at the new types of technology there and more efficient. Yes, we are. We would be looking to do that. I think in all fairness, just one comment actually that we take as, and I take that quite to heart, is somebody saying there, not a question, but thank you for your honesty and frankness. Look, that's something I think we try to do in all our reporting.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We try to put things out with a straight bat. We try to be as frank and honest and open as we can. We're not hiding from the fact that there's challenges in this market, but we want to be able to be as honest and open with shareholders as we can. I think we'll wrap it up on that point, and I'll just hand back to Jake.

Operator

Perfect. Ross, Toby, that's great. Thank you for your presentation and for being so generous of your time and addressing all of those questions that came in this morning. Ross, perhaps before really now just looking to redirect those on the call to provide you with their feedback, which I know is particularly important to yourself and the company.

Operator

If I could please just ask you for a few closing comments just to wrap up with, that'd be great.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, looking at it, last year was not a great year for generation, but I think we take the view of, look, where we've got our budgets and we're very—if that's one of the worst years, we think that our technology and our budgets and our portfolio is pretty resilient, and we can get through that. That's not going to cause us an issue and speaks to the resilience of that. Overall, the portfolio is doing absolutely what it should be doing. We've got a development pipeline coming through. I think a large portion of it, we know we have to grasp these divestments. We know we need to get Australia. That's a strategic move to exit out of there.

Ross Driver
Ross Driver
Managing Director at Foresight Solar Fund Ltd

We need to make these other divestments to return capital. Really, I think we are doing as much as we can here. The macro environment is very challenging. There are going to be factors in that that may move forward quicker than the strategy that we can deliver. We do think ours is the right strategy. We will just have to see where that takes us and whatever. We very much want to continue to be delivering value for investors out of this.

Operator

That's great. Ross, Toby, thank you once again for updating investors this morning. Could I please ask investors not to close this session as you'll now be automatically redirected for the opportunity to provide your feedback in order for the management team to better understand your views and expectations?

Operator

This will only take a few moments to complete, but I'm sure it will be greatly valued by the company. On behalf of the management team of Foresight Solar Fund Limited, we would like to thank you for attending today's presentation. That now concludes today's session. Good afternoon to you all.

Executives
    • Toby Virno
      Toby Virno
      Associate Director
    • Ross Driver
      Ross Driver
      Managing Director