Gilead Sciences Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Gilead's First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. My name is Rebecca, and I'll be today's host. In a moment, we'll begin our prepared remarks followed by our Q and A session. I'll now hand the call over to Jackie Ross, Senior Vice President of Treasury and Investor Relations.

Jacquie Ross
Jacquie Ross
VP, IR at Gilead Sciences

Thank you, Rebecca. Just after market close today, we issued a press release with earnings results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. The press release, slides and supplementary data are available on the Investors section of our website at gilead.com. The speakers on today's call will be our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Daniel O'Dea our Chief Commercial Officer, Joanna Mercier our Chief Medical Officer, Dietmar Berger and our Chief Financial Officer, Andrew Dickinson. After that, we'll open the call to Q and A, where the team will be joined by Cindy Paretti, the Executive Vice President of Kite.

Jacquie Ross
Jacquie Ross
VP, IR at Gilead Sciences

Let me remind you that we will be making forward looking statements. Please refer to Slide two regarding the risks and uncertainties relating to forward looking statements that could cause actual results to differ materially. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dan.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thank you, Jackie, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to share our first quarter results, which reflect strong commercial and clinical execution across the business. Our base business excluding VICLORY grew 4% from the first quarter of twenty twenty four, primarily driven by growth in our HIV business. HIV sales were up 6% year over year with Biktarvy up 7%, highlighting our demand led volume growth that was offset in part by the expected headwinds associated with the Part D redesign. Livedelzi continues its strong launch momentum with $40,000,000 in sales in its second full quarter since launch.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Year over year growth in our HIV and liver disease businesses was partially offset by softer than expected Trodelvy sales due to inventory dynamics that masked increase in demand as well as headwinds in cell therapy. Total product sales including VICLORY were down by 1% from last year reflecting fewer COVID-nineteen related hospitalizations. Beyond our commercial results, we also saw impressive operational execution with strong operating margin and earnings per share results that highlight our continued focus on expense management and leverage in our business model. Our diverse pipeline continues to deliver across HIV, oncology and inflammation. In HIV, we are now only weeks away from the anticipated FDA decision on twice yearly lenacapavir for PrEP.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

We remain on track for the June 19 PDUFA date and the potential launch in The U. S. Immediately following. As a reminder, this is one of up to nine potential HIV product launches we are targeting before the February, building on Gilead's decades of leadership in HIV innovation. In oncology, earlier this week, we announced the positive results from the Phase three ASCENT-four study of Trodelvy in combination with pembrolizumab for first line PD L1 positive metastatic triple negative breast cancer.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

The results showed a clinically meaningful and statistically significant improvement in progression free survival over the standard of care. This news represents an important potential benefit for patients. Metastatic TNBC is one of the most aggressive forms of breast cancer and has historically been very difficult to treat. We expect to share the ASCENT-four data at a medical congress in the near future and to file with global regulatory authorities as quickly as possible. We continue to expect an update later this quarter on the Phase three ASCENT-three study evaluating Trodelvy monotherapy in first line metastatic triple negative breast cancer patients who are not candidates for PD-one inhibitors.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Moving to cell therapy, we plan to provide an update on our registrational Phase two IMagine-one trial later this year and remain on track to potentially launch Anitosel in late line relapsedrefractory multiple myeloma in 2026. We believe that Anitosel's clinical profile combined with Kite's exceptional manufacturing capabilities and industry leading turnaround time puts us in a strong position to address the unmet need for patients with multiple myeloma. In inflammation, we are launching Libdelzi in additional markets following approval from the European Commission in February. We look forward to continued momentum as we bring Libdelzi to more people seeking to manage their primary biliary cholangitis with a differentiated option. As we wrap up a strong first quarter performance, we can look forward to continuing positive momentum.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

We have multiple potential launches ahead including lenacapavir, a needle cell and now Trodelvy. As a reminder, we have no major LOEs until the February and expect to drive top line growth over time across all three of our therapeutic focus areas of virology, oncology and inflammation. The overall strength of our business means we are well positioned to adapt to a range of potential policy outcomes in The United States. It is worth noting that Gilead's average corporate tax rate of approximately 20% reflects the fact that the substantial majority of our intellectual property is already registered in The United States. The 2017 tax reform was instrumental in us bolstering our U.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

S. Investment and Gilead is differentiated in that almost 100% of our R and D capital infrastructure is in The U. S. In addition, we have been increasing our investment in U. S.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Manufacturing over the last several years with two large scale cell therapy sites and we have additional investment projects underway that are expected to run through 2028. Our focus is on delivering on our multiple upcoming launches and advancing our diverse pipeline. And in the meantime, we continue to engage with the administration to encourage a balanced policy agenda that prioritizes innovation and the needs of patients. With that, I'll hand it over to Joanna.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks, Dan, and good afternoon, everyone. We've had a solid start to the year with our commercial execution delivering strong year over year sales growth in our base business. Product sales excluding VICLORY of $6,300,000,000 were up 4% year over year, primarily driven by HIV and liver disease sales, partially offset by lower oncology sales. Sequentially, sales were down 12% as expected, mainly due to inventory dynamics, partially offset by higher sales in liver disease. Total product sales of $6,600,000,000 were down 1% year over year and 12% sequentially, reflecting lower Veclary sales.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Moving to Slide eight, our HIV business delivered sales of $4,600,000,000 up 6% year over year driven by higher average realized price and higher demand. Sequentially, sales were down 16% consistent with our guidance, reflecting normal first quarter seasonality, including lower average realized price and volume following a particularly strong fourth quarter as well as the impact of Medicare Part D redesign. As a reminder, quarterly HIV growth is generally more variable and less indicative of overall trends than full year results with normal first quarter impacts including inventory drawdown following a build in the fourth quarter and channel dynamics including the resetting of patient co pays and deductibles which result in lower average realized price. Beyond these typical first quarter dynamics, HIV revenues were also impacted by Medicare Part D redesign in the first quarter of twenty twenty five. This increased the manufacturer contribution and includes individuals on low income subsidy for the first time.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

While we are still in the early stages of this implementation, our assumptions remain unchanged. In the meantime, we continue to expect robust demand led volume growth for the full year, though as shared back in February, this will be obscured this year due to Part D headwinds resulting in flat reported HIV sales overall for 2025 with a return to growth in 2026. On Slide nine, in HIV treatment, Biktarvy sales of $3,100,000,000 were up 7% year over year, primarily driven by higher demand. Sequentially, sales were down 17% as we expected, reflecting first quarter seasonality, including lower average realized price and volume. Biktarvy once again increased U.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

S. Market share in the first quarter to 51%, outpacing the growth of alternative regimens and remains the regimen of choice across G9 markets. Overall, the HIV treatment market continues to grow in line with our expectations of two percent to three percent annually. Descovy sales of $586,000,000 increased 38% year over year, primarily driven by higher average realized price and higher demand. HIV prevention continues to represent the significant majority of Descovy sales and growth this quarter was driven by broader awareness, growing unrestricted access and associated pricing favorability as well as focused commercial execution that contributed to approximately 16% U.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

S. Prep market growth year over year. Additionally, Descovy maintains over 40% market share and grew more than 2% year over year. Sequentially, sales were down 5% reflecting typical seasonal inventory dynamics partially offset by higher average realized price and higher demand. Growing awareness and adoption of HIV prevention is encouraging ahead of our upcoming potential U.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

S. Launch of lenacapavir for PrEP. I'm excited to have our field teams across market access, commercial, medical, community, and our nurse educators mobilized to ensure we're ready for launch. Building on our deep expertise and success of HIV launches and with strong engagement across the ecosystem from community leaders to health care providers, our teams are ready to build awareness, drive adoption, and overall deliver a seamless customer experience. Additionally, we're working with health authorities, policymakers and other organizations outside of The U.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

S. We look to bring lenacapavir for PrEP to more people globally once approved. Moving to liver disease on Slide 10. Sales of $758,000,000 were up 3% year over year, reflecting increased demand across PBC, HBV and HDV, partially offset by lower average realized price for HCV products in The U. S.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sequentially, liver disease sales were up 5%, primarily driven by increased demand and inventory dynamics, partially offset by lower average realized price. For LibDelsey, first quarter sales of $40,000,000 reflect continued early momentum in the launch of PBC and we're proud of the market share we've achieved so far. We're also pleased that in February, the European Commission granted conditional marketing authorization for Libdelsi. We have just launched in Germany a few weeks ago and we expect to expand into other major European markets in the coming months. Moving to Slide 11, Veclari sales of $3.00 $2,000,000 were down 45% year over year and 10% quarter over quarter, reflecting lower rates of COVID-nineteen related hospitalizations due to a milder winter season.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

VICLARI's consistently high share of over sixty percent of treated hospitalized patients in The U. S. Reinforces its clinical benefit and position as the standard of care, particularly among patients with renal and hepatic impairment. Despite the variability of the path of the pandemic, we expect VICLARI's important role to continue. On Slide 12, Trodelvy sales of $293,000,000 were down 5% year over year, reflecting inventory dynamics and lower average realized price partially offset by higher demand.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sequentially sales were down 17% primarily driven by inventory dynamics and lower demand. Trodelvy remains the leading regimen in second line metastatic triple negative breast cancer in both The United States and Europe with stable share in pretreated HR positive HER2 negative metastatic breast cancer. We also look forward to potentially bringing the benefits of Trodelvy to triple negative breast cancer patients in earlier lines of treatment, given the clinically meaningful progression free survival benefits seen in ASCENT-four and with data from ASCENT-three expected later this quarter. These studies could further strengthen our position in triple negative breast cancer with almost double the addressable population compared to the second line setting. Moving to cell therapy on Slide 13.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sales of $464,000,000 were down 3% year over year and 5% sequentially, reflecting accelerating competitive headwinds notably outside The U. S. And more specifically for TICARDA. Yescarta sales of $386,000,000 were up 2% year over year driven by higher average realized price and increased rest of world demand partially offset by lower demand in The U. S.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sequentially, sales were down 1%, reflecting European pricing favorability in the prior quarter that did not repeat, partially offset by higher demand outside The U. S. TACARDA sales of $78,000,000 were down 22% year over year and 20% sequentially, reflecting increased in and out of class competition. Our work to increase CAR T class penetration is ongoing and we continue to make progress in breaking down barriers to adoption in the community setting, including in accreditation and commercial reimbursement. More broadly, we continue to raise awareness of the strength of our data, the advantages of a one time treatment and the potential benefits of earlier CAR T.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Notwithstanding the ongoing competitive headwinds that we continue to expect to extend through 2025, we remain very excited about the overall opportunity and future for cell therapy with the potential launch of an ETOcell in multiple myeloma in 2026 and exciting early stage data in our next generation products across lymphoma and solid tumors at ASCO. Before I hand over to Deepmar, I'd like to thank the commercialization teams for delivering a great start to the year. We remain focused on expanding the reach of our current portfolio, but are also very excited about the rich pipeline of near term launches over the next twelve to eighteen months. In addition to the ongoing launch of Libdelzi and the potential launch of Lenacapfir for PrEP in 2025, we're also looking forward to the potential launch of nidosel in multiple myeloma and Trodelvy in first line metastatic triple negative breast cancer in 2026. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Deepmar.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thank you, Johanna, and good afternoon, everyone. We have made a lot of progress in the first quarter with some exciting lenacapavir updates at CROI and our first pivotal Phase three top line readout for Trodelvy in breast cancer since 2022. The quality of these readouts highlights the breadth and depth of clinical expertise across Gilead with the potential to support growth in our target therapeutic areas with new commercial launches in the years ahead. Starting with HIV on Slide 15, we shared 20 abstracts at CROI including data that showcase lanacapavir's potential even beyond the remarkable results we saw in purpose one and purpose two last year. For example, we shared our Phase one data that showed once yearly intramuscular injections maintained lenacapavir blood concentrations above those shown with twice yearly subcutaneous injections for more than 12.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

The injections were generally well tolerated. These data were published in The Lancet and we look forward to initiating a Phase three study for once yearly lenacapavir for HIV prevention in the second half of this year. As a reminder, for our twice yearly subcutaneous injection of lenacapavir for HIV prevention, we have already submitted NDA, MAA and EU medicines for all applications with FDA and EMA. Further, we've submitted filings with regulatory bodies in South Africa and Brazil and continue to make good progress in all our discussions with the global regulatory bodies. In particular, we have not experienced any disruptions in our interactions with FDA and we continue to expect a regulatory decision by June 19.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

In HIV treatment, we shared Phase II data at CROI evaluating twice yearly lanacapavir plus two broadly neutralizing antibodies or BNABs in virologically suppressed people with HIV genotypes that are highly susceptible to both BNABs. At week 26, the combination regimen maintained biologic suppression with high efficacy similar to the stable baseline regimen comparator. There were no infusion related reactions to the BNABs and no discontinuations due to injection site reactions. Lenacapavir plus BNABs has already received breakthrough therapy designation from FDA and these Phase II data further underscore the potential for this combination to be the first complete twice yearly treatment regimen for virologically suppressed people with HIV. Phase III planning is in progress.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

Touching upon liver disease on Slide 16, we announced the European Commission granted conditional marketing authorization for LIVDELZI for the treatment of primary biliary cholangitis or PBC. The decision reflects LIVDELZI's clinical benefit across key biomarkers of PBC and related pruritus in the Phase III RESPONSE trial. In addition, we continue to make progress on our Phase III IDEAL trial, which is evaluating the efficacy of Livedelzi in PBC patients who are partial responders to UDCA, potentially doubling the addressable patient population. Overall, we are excited by the opportunities to bring this differentiated treatment to more patients across the world. Moving to oncology on Slide 17.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

I'm very pleased to share Trodelvy plus pembro demonstrated highly statistically significant and clinically meaningful progression free survival benefit over standard of care in the Phase three ASCENT-four trial in first line PD L1 positive metastatic triple negative breast cancer. Triple negative breast cancer is the most aggressive type of breast cancer that disproportionately impacts younger and premenopausal women. We look forward to being able to potentially bring the benefits of Trodelvy to these metastatic triple negative breast cancer patients in the first line. We will be submitting these data for presentation at a future medical congress and will engage with global regulators as quickly as possible. Further, we expect to provide an update from the Phase three ASCENT-three trial evaluating Trodelvy monotherapy in first line metastatic triple negative breast cancer patients who are not candidates for PD-one inhibitors later this quarter.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

We also remain focused on clinical execution of our seven other ongoing Phase three programs for Trodelvy and dombinalimab across six tumor types. Moving to Slide 18 and on behalf of Cindy and the Kite team, we are pleased to be sharing new data from our next generation products at the upcoming ASCO meeting in June, including Phase I data from KITE-three 63, our Bisistronic CD19CD20 CAR T for relapsed or refractory large B cell lymphoma and Phase I data from the Bicistronic EGFR IL-thirteen RA2 CAR T for glioblastoma in collaboration with the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine. We believe KITE-three sixty three could offer deeper, more sustained responses with the potential to overcome certain resistance mechanisms given its ability to target both CD19 and CD20. Additionally, we believe its dual co stimulatory domains balance effects such as rapid tumor cell killing and CAR T cell proliferation and persistence in an optimal way. This could result in a potentially improved overall efficacy and safety profile in B cell malignancies.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

Further, we believe many of these potential benefits could translate to B cell driven autoimmune diseases and have filed an IND to evaluate KITE-three 63 in this area as well. For Anido cel, our pivotal IMagine I study in fourth line plus relapsed or refractory multiple myeloma is ongoing and we look forward to providing an update in 2025. In the second line plus setting, we are pleased to announce the Phase III IMMagine three protocol has been amended to include minimal residual disease negativity as a dual primary endpoint in addition to progression free survival. We're excited for this positive step to potentially bring EnidroCell to patients in early line settings and remain confident in EnidroCell's profile across efficacy and safety combined with Kite's leading manufacturing capabilities. Finally, on Slide 19, we achieved several important milestones this year, including European Commission conditional approval of Libdelsi, positive Phase III top line readout from ASCENT-four and initiation of the Phase III EVOQUE small cell lung cancer study.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

We anticipate an update from the Phase III ASCENT-three trial later this quarter. Additionally, in virology, we remain on track to provide an update on the data from our Phase twooneone trial, our wholly owned once weekly insti containing oral treatment for HIV at an upcoming medical meeting. And now I'll hand the call over to Andy.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

Thank you, Deepmar, and good afternoon everyone. Our first quarter results reflect both strong operating and commercial execution. As shown on slide 21, our base business was up 4% year over year to $6,300,000,000 largely driven by growth in our HIV and liver disease business, partially offset by lower oncology sales. Vecluri sales were down 45% year over year, resulting in a 1% decline in our total product sales to $6,600,000,000 Moving to our non GAAP results on slide 22.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

For the first quarter, product

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

gross margin was flat year over year at 85% in line with our full year guidance expectation of 85% to 86%. R and D expenses were down 5% year over year primarily due to lower clinical manufacturing activities. Acquired IP R and D expenses were $253,000,000 primarily driven by the LEO Pharma STAT6 collaboration we announced in January. SG and A expenses were down 6% year over year reflecting lower corporate expenses partially offset by incremental selling and marketing spend in The United States. First Quarter operating margin was 43% highlighting our ongoing commitment to continue to operating expense discipline and delivering top quartile margins once again.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

The non GAAP effective tax rate was 16% this quarter below our historic average largely driven by tax benefits from stock based compensation. And finally non GAAP diluted EPS was $1.81 Moving to our full year guidance on slide 23, we are not making any changes to our revenue expectations or non GAAP P and L guidance at this time. As we reflect on the tariffs that have been enacted to date, these could increase some of our indirect costs, but are expected to be manageable in 2025 in part due to potentially lighter FX headwinds than previously expected. For 2025 therefore, we continue to expect total product sales of approximately $28,200,000,000 to $28,600,000,000 product sales excluding Veclury of approximately $26,800,000,000 to 27,200,000,000 20 20 five HIV sales to be approximately flat compared to 2024 with demand driven growth offset by the impact of the Medicare Part D redesign and Vecluri sales of approximately $1,400,000,000 While the first quarter was lighter than expected, we know this can be a highly variable business. With that in mind and consistent with our approach last year, we do not expect to update our Becquery guidance until our third quarter earnings call.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

Moving to other parts of the P and L for full year 2025 on a non GAAP basis, We continue to expect product gross margin to range between 85% to 86%, R and D expenses to be roughly flat from 2024, acquired IPR and D to be approximately $400,000,000 including the $253,000,000 of expenses in the first quarter as well as known commitments and expected milestone payments SG and A expenses to decline by a high single digit percentage compared to 2024 operating income to be between $12,700,000,000 to $13,200,000,000 effective tax rate to be approximately 19% and finally diluted EPS to be between $7.7 to $8.1 for the full year. Looking ahead, we will continue to monitor the macro landscape carefully and we expect that our disciplined approach to operating expense management positions us well to adapt as needed in the months ahead. Finally, on Slide 24, our capital priorities remain unchanged. We have already returned $1,700,000,000 to shareholders in the first quarter of twenty twenty five through dividends and share repurchases. And we will continue to pursue disciplined expense management and careful investment in the most promising pipeline opportunities both internally and externally.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

I'm also pleased to note that S and P recently upgraded Gilead's long term debt rating from BBB plus with a positive outlook to A- with a stable outlook recognizing the outlook for our HIV franchise and other products combined with steady revenue growth and strong cash flow generation. Overall, Gilead is on track to continue delivering demand led volume growth, a disciplined operating model and strong cash flow that positions us well for the rest of 2025 and beyond. With that, I'll invite Rebecca to begin the Q and A.

Operator

Thank you, Andy. At this time, we'll invite your questions. Please be courteous and limit yourself to one question so we can get to as many analysts as possible during today's call. Question comes from Michael Yee at Jefferies. Go ahead.

Operator

Your line is open.

Michael Yee
Managing Director at Jefferies LLC

Hey, great. Thanks. Congrats on the quarter and progress. We wanted to ask about your expectations for the prep launch. And assuming approval on time, how you think about the dynamics in the second half related to commercial reimbursement and Medicaid reimbursement and whether guideline changes and other factors also need to play a role?

Michael Yee
Managing Director at Jefferies LLC

Thanks.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Hi, Michael. It's Joanna. Thanks for the question. Yes. So we're excited about the opportunity with the PDUFA date around the corner.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

We are counting, I think Dan referred to weeks, the team is counting days. And we are absolutely ready for the launch. From an access standpoint, what we've said is, we believe that around it was going to take a couple of months, right, as it builds access. We think about 75% or so access within the first six months to a peak covered lives at about 90% at a twelve month mark. And that's going to happen month after month.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

It doesn't all happen in a bolus. We also believe at the beginning that they're going to go through medical exceptions, And they'll go through the process just like they do, for example, with Libdelvi as we're building access there as well. And we believe that just takes a little bit more time, but still could get through the process for those people that want lenacapavir. And so we'll work through that. And we're excited about that opportunity as we build out through 2025 and of course, into 2026 with much stronger access.

Operator

Our next question comes from Carter Gould at Cantor Fitzgerald. Carter, go ahead. Your line is open.

Carter Gould
Carter Gould
Analyst at Barclays Capital

Great. Thank you. Good afternoon. I guess sort of following on the prior question, there have been, a number of cuts across HHS, CDC to start the year across various teams, divisions, raising uncertainty around potential disruptions to messaging, education, awareness. Can you help maybe frame some of these and specifically as they might impact the launch?

Carter Gould
Carter Gould
Analyst at Barclays Capital

And are these sort of either roles or activities that Gilead can maybe step into to do some of the heavy lifting? And I guess really your confidence that we won't be pointing to these aspects as impacting the launch later in 2025 or into 2026? Thank you.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks Carter. This is Dan. I'll start and then Joanna can add or others. But I just want to be clear that to date we haven't heard or seen anything that would cause us to alter our plans or expectations for the LEN for PrEP launch or adversely affect our HIV business. Obviously, we're staying very closely attuned to this.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

And importantly, we're having discussions with policymakers to emphasize the importance of letacapavir from PrEP and in particular in relation to their stated goals of addressing chronic diseases in this country and the value of prevention, we think that LEN for PrEP is really well positioned there. So specifically relative to the government support and in particular you mentioned CDC, Carter. Obviously, their responsibilities include research and surveillance of HIV. They include supporting efforts around diagnosis and linkage to care. We're also involved in those activities.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

But again, nothing we've seen so far suggests that those core services, are are in a position to change our approach to the launch. And maybe with that, I'll hand it over to Joanna if she has any other questions or, Deepak, if you want comment on FDA too.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sure. Again, maybe just to

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

add a point, Carter, around prep market growth and kind of what you asked, what Gilead can do. I think that Gilead has been incredibly focused on making sure we continue to have market development initiatives to ensure screening, diagnosis for treatment, but also to ensure awareness and within the PrEP market make sure there's education there as well. And I think you've seen that as you think about the PrEP market growth, we had a lot of activities in Q4 of last year and that's kind of playing out. We saw a nice uplift of the growth of the PrEP market in Q4 and you kind of see that come through again in Q1 at about 16% year over year. So really well positioned as you think about lenacapavir around the corner.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

Yes. And on the FDA side, at this time, all our interactions with the FDA have been on track, been as expected without any surprises. So we've not experienced any impact to our LENFOR PREP filing or any of our clinical trials actually to date, right? And we continue to expect the lanacapavir decision by June 19.

Operator

Our next question comes from James Shinn at Deutsche Bank. James, go ahead. Your line is open.

James Shin
James Shin
Director of Biopharma Equity Research at Deutsche Bank

Thank you. I have a

James Shin
James Shin
Director of Biopharma Equity Research at Deutsche Bank

question for Joanna. Joanna, the strength in Descovy for this quarter, is there any read through or implications on it looks like there were some price benefits to Descovy. But is there any read through or implications to Lens launch?

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Yes, there is. Thanks for the question. So yes, we saw a really nice growth year on year about 38% growth for DESCOVY. That was driven by higher average realized price, as you mentioned, as well as higher demand. Those are the two big drivers.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

And there's a couple of reasons behind that. One is definitely the prep market growth that I was referring to earlier, around 16% year on year, driven really by the market development that we've done, that we've been leading. And second was around focused commercial execution. We've actually grown the share of Descovy year on year by about just over three percentage point, which is really amazing. And that's driven by the commercial team, which have been doing an amazing job, but also supported by growing unrestricted access that we've seen even just in the last quarter, to be honest, as well as associated lower co pays, which also helps our pricing.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

So all of those pieces together get you to that 38% year on year. And I do believe, actually, because of that prep market growth, because of this setup from an access standpoint, really supports the opportunity with lanacapavir in, hopefully, in June.

Operator

Our next question comes from Salveen Richter at Goldman Sachs. Salveen, go ahead. Your line is open.

Salveen Richter
Salveen Richter
Biotechnolgy Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You touched on this a little earlier, but while Gilead seems fairly unexposed to tariff risk here, can you just share any details on how much of The U. S. Market is supplied by ex U.

Salveen Richter
Salveen Richter
Biotechnolgy Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

S. Manufacturing, either API finished product? And to what degree you can shift this to The U. S? And is it fair to say limited risk to the business from a tax transfer pricing perspective?

Salveen Richter
Salveen Richter
Biotechnolgy Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

And if I could also just get a clarification with regard to earnings earlier With regard to whether your assumptions are unchanged here and whether you could just comment on how this is taking shape relative to your 2025 guide, the dynamics to date? Thank you.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Great. Thanks, Helene. Let me just start at the high level and then I'll hand it over to Andy or Joanna to comment a little more deeply. Just to emphasize what you said around the tariffs, I think at the highest level, of course, we separate them into two different categories. One is kind of indirect tariffs, which are related to all businesses.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

And for us, there are things like steel, lab supplies, chemicals, reagents. And obviously there we have some known understanding of what those tariffs will be. And what we see so far today we've absorbed into our guidance without changing our guidance for the rest of the year. And Andy can comment a little further on that. And then the other category of tariffs are obviously the pharmaceutical specific tariffs, which are not enacted today.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

They've only been discussed and chatted about. We obviously haven't speculated on those nor included those. But to your point, I think that, there is a difference relative to Gilead's makeup and setup that is important when you consider those tariffs and that is that the vast majority of Gilead's IP is in The U. S. And what that suggests is lower value for its pharmaceutical imports at the end of the day, which is, the value on which tariffs would be placed.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

In fact, more than 80% of Gilead's profits are recognized in The U. S. To your question around the supply chain, it's quite a complicated answer. We do have the strongest footprint we have is in The United States. Like most companies, we leverage both internal and external manufacturing on a global basis.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

And we're always looking to adapt that to make sure that we have good continuity of supply across the world so that we can do that accordingly. I'd also say that we've invested significantly in our manufacturing infrastructure in The United States over the past many years and our R and D infrastructure including opening cell therapy manufacturing sites. And we have four large scale U. S. Investment projects in progress that are expected to run through 2028.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

So it's difficult to get into the detail of every product and every supply chain, but I think we're well positioned overall. I would ask Andy to comment and maybe Andy or Joanna on the Medicare Part D reasons.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

Sure. Hi, Salveen, it's Andy. Just to confirm what Dan said, our updated guidance does reflect the expected impact of the increase in indirect costs that we've seen from both announced tariffs and reciprocal tariffs as well as our general expectations for the inflationary environment that we may be moving into. And as you can expect there are a number of puts and takes in the P and L but as you look again at another very strong quarter of disciplined expense management that helps us absorb some of those additional costs. There's also a bit of a tailwind as you've heard from our peers in terms of the U.

Andrew Dickinson
Andrew Dickinson
CFO at Gilead Sciences

S. Dollar has weakened for those of us that are based in The United States. There's a tailwind relative to our budgeted FX amount that will help offset some of those as well. So we're very confident today that with the strong growth you saw in the base business in the first quarter despite the Part D impact which Joanna can speak to, even with the tariffs we're happy to reconfirm our guidance for the year and we feel like we're in a good spot.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Great. And maybe just specific to your Part D redesign question, although still quite early in the stages of implementation, just important to note that Medicare claims will lag by a quarter. So still kind of looking for that data, and we'll get that sometime late Q2, for the first quarter of this year. Our assumptions haven't changed. We continue to expect about that $1,100,000,000 that we shared for total impact, of which about $900,000,000 or so is specific to HIV.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

And in terms of phasing, we do expect some linear progression over the quarter. That's in part driven by the cost of our medicines. And then last but not least, we're really quite pleased with our Q1 results. If you think about our HIV business growing six points year over year, if you were to take out Part D redesign, you'd be looking at a 9% growth year over year. So we're really pleased with how HIV is playing out and being able to navigate those seasonal dynamics of inventory that we always see in Q1, but also the Part D redesign dynamic.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tyler Van Buren at TD Cowen. Tyler, go ahead.

Tyler Van Buren
Managing Director, Senior Biotech Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen

Hey, guys. Thanks very much. For Trodelby, is the lower demand quarter over quarter due to bladder coming out or lower demand in breast? It'd be helpful if you could elaborate on that.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sure. It's Joanna, I'll take that one. Yes. So quarter over quarter has to do with inventory and a little bit of lower demand just because Q4 was really strong performance. But if you look at our year on year at about minus 5%, that's really just inventory dynamic and lower average realized price due to channel mix and higher demand.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

So we are trending nicely with Trodelvy and holding a really nice position both in second line metastatic triple negative breast cancer and as well as HR positive HER2 negative. So feel confident with what's to come in 2025, let alone with the great positive news on ASCENT-four that just reinforces the confidence for physicians in the second line setting with the data that we had originally showed with ASCENT.

Operator

Our next question comes from Dana Grebosch at Leerink Partners. Dana, go ahead. Your line is open.

Daina Graybosch
Senior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners

Hi. Thanks for the question. I wonder if you can talk about the process to add lanacapavir to the USPSTF mandate for coverage about cost sharing. I'm assuming SCOTUS upholds the constitutionality in June. So what's the timing of that being added, and how much impact or uplift do you expect in revenue and growth in The US when it's added to the mandate?

Daina Graybosch
Senior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners

Thank you.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks, Dana, for your question. Joanna again. I I think what's important is that we are assuming that it's gonna take a little bit of time for USPSTF to to add lanacapavir as the process. Obviously, from a guideline standpoint, we've already kind of seen those guidelines play out when you think about IAS guidelines. We already have lenacapavir there prior to even approval.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

But usually they wait for approval and then we kind of go forward with trying to get medical updates through including USPSTF. We do believe though that despite this, we feel we're incredibly well positioned because of the transformative nature of lenacapavir to, build access across the different channels that and we're prepared to do that. And that's, again again, gonna take a little bit of time over the next six to twelve months, but we feel that that would be in line with with what we've seen in the past with other other agents, including Descovy. And we're gonna be leveraging all the guidelines possible to make sure that there's a real value that's displayed for access to to go as quickly as possible. USPSTF would be nice to have, to be honest with you.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

But in the first six to twelve months, we're assuming that that's not going to be in play, and we our plans are really based on our value proposition of lenacapavir.

Operator

Our next question comes from Geoff Meacham at Citigroup. Geoff, go ahead. Your line is open.

Geoff Meacham
Geoff Meacham
Managing Director at Citi

Great. Afternoon, guys. Thanks so much for the question. I have one for Deepmar. So on the HIV treatment, opportunity and looking to your long acting orals, I guess the question is what's the gating factor for selecting the the best phase three combo?

Geoff Meacham
Geoff Meacham
Managing Director at Citi

And related to that, you know, while we you haven't seen resistance with Landa, hasn't really been an issue, would it still make sense to have in the treatment setting a three drug versus a two drug combo just to mitigate the lower risk of resistance? Thank you.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thank you, Geoff, for the question, right? That's really early in our development program here. I think the important piece is that we're looking for optionality. We're really looking for the breadth and depth of the portfolio to deliver for people basically with monthly and weekly and in the prep setting obviously once every six months and potentially also once every year options. In the immediate future, obviously, we're really looking forward as discussed right to the LENSOprep launch.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

But then we also had data at CROI, right, where we were talking about the potential of lanacapavir for once every year prep and that of course are some of our focus areas. Obviously, we will look at the overall portfolio and see with the options that we want to develop, which ones we can take forward.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Schott at JPMorgan. Chris, go ahead. Your line is open.

Chris Schott
Chris Schott
Managing Director at JP Morgan

Great. Thanks so much. Just was hoping to get a little bit more color on the LIVDELZIE launch so far. Maybe just elaborate a bit more on what you're seeing from a competitive standpoint and how that ramp is progressing relative to your internal expectations. Thank you.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks, Chris. Joanna. Yes, we're really pleased with the progression of Lib DELFI, right? In our full second quarter, '40 million, but most importantly, it actually has to do with the share uptake that we've seen. We are looking at about a third of the market today out of the second line products that are currently indicated and growing incredibly rapidly.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

We grew about 10 points share in one quarter. So we are really building that momentum with a lot of positive feedback that we're getting from our health care providers around the efficacy, both the AOP, the biochemical response and the pruritus. And coverage right now is in line with our expectations. So we're at about just over 80% or so coverage with commercial plans, and we think that's going to keep growing probably within the next couple of months to just well above 90. So I think right now, we're well on our way to continue to drive LibDelvy, and really differentiate it in PBC.

Operator

Our next question comes from Terence Flynn at Morgan Stanley. Terence, go ahead. Your line is open.

Terence Flynn
Terence Flynn
Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks for taking the question. I noticed and you mentioned that you added MRD negativity as a co primary endpoint in the ANITA cell Phase III trial. I'm just wondering what if you could comment on what the regulators would want to see there to approve that on an MRD negativity endpoint in terms of kind of like what delta you would need or if you'd also have to have other supportive data, to justify an approval? Thank you.

Cindy Perettie
Cindy Perettie
Executive Vice President, Kite at Gilead Sciences

Last chance, it's Cindy Peretti. We're not we don't comment on the delta that they're looking for, but what I would share is that this is a dual primary endpoint. And so being able to use MRD, we know today that that correlates to PFS, and it also allows us to assess, you know, within months of the treatment if the patient is having a response. So our goal is to use the MRD negativity endpoint first and then follow that up with progression free survival, but the correlation between the two is what we're talking to regulators about.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Anderson at BofA. Tim, go ahead. Your line is open.

Tim Anderson
Tim Anderson
Managing Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America

Thank you. On Descovy, how much will linacapavir for PrEP cannibalize? Could U. S. Descovy sales go ex growth as soon as 2026?

Tim Anderson
Tim Anderson
Managing Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America

And then can you just give us any sort of ballpark estimate for how many patients could be on lenacapavir for PrEP by the end of the year?

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks for the question, Tim. Yeah. We don't give product specific guidance, but here's what I can say. I I do think that as you think about lenacapavir and its offering of twice a year, there really is an opportunity when you think about a switch strategy. Right?

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

When you think about ninety five percent of the market today are daily orals, which obviously that includes Descovy and generic Truvada. And so that will definitely be where I think the first patients come through, in addition to naive patients naive folks as well that have been waiting for lenacapavir. Because there is definitely a lot of noise in the system from the communities that people are kinda hanging in there until the approval of lenacapavir. So so those two pieces are, what's exciting as we think about the launch. And as I think about the growth of this market, right, we basically said that we're just over about 400, four hundred and 50 thousand folks or so on prep today in The US.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

We think that number will definitely continue to grow quite rapidly, especially with the acceleration. I think it will accelerate with the launch of lenacapavir. And I think that number could be quite exponential as you think about the next ten years or so. So we're looking forward to seeing a little bit more in growth as we're 16% year on year today. I think you're going to see a bit of an acceleration as you think about the line of Capacara launch around the corner.

Operator

Our next question comes from Evan Sigerman at BMO. Evan, go ahead. Your line is open.

Evan Seigerman
Evan Seigerman
MD & Senior Research Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Hi, all. Thank you so

Evan Seigerman
Evan Seigerman
MD & Senior Research Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

much for taking my question. I wanted to drill down a little bit on some of the dynamics we're seeing in cell therapy. Are you seeing more share or competitive share capture from competitive cell therapy products or bispecifics? And the flip side, once folks once Accenture might use a different cell therapy product, do you tend to see them switch over? Kind of what are the dynamics behind that?

Evan Seigerman
Evan Seigerman
MD & Senior Research Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Thank you so much.

Cindy Perettie
Cindy Perettie
Executive Vice President, Kite at Gilead Sciences

Betty? Thank you for the question. I think that we have shared probably in the previous quarter and this quarter, we're seeing the dynamics from both bispecifics as well as, in class competition. And I think it depends as you look at Yescarta and Takarta on those dynamics. We have a number of new approved indications in class within class competition outside of The US, and that's some of the dynamics you're observing, outside of The US.

Cindy Perettie
Cindy Perettie
Executive Vice President, Kite at Gilead Sciences

Within The US, in, some of the more smaller markets that Takartis is competing in, we're seeing new indications as well with in class competitors. But we're also seeing new indications in The US and Europe with the bispecific. So it's both that we're observing right now. So, hopefully, that that answers your question.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Biegler. Matt, go ahead. Your line is open.

Matthew Biegler
Managing Director at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Great. Thanks so much. I had another question on Tradelvy and the decreased demand Q o Q. Are you seeing any headwind from DATROWAVE's recent approval in HR positive? And I guess that kind of leads to a broader question of could you just comment on the patient mix you're treating in terms of triple negative versus HR positive?

Matthew Biegler
Managing Director at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Thanks.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Sure. Basically, with competitive impact, we haven't seen any impact thus far really as we think about new entrants in the marketplace. And we continue to really see a really strong dynamic in triple negative breast cancer to HR positive. Remember, the indications are a little bit different. In triple negative, we're looking at a second line metastatic indication.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

In HR positiveHER2 negative, your later lines of therapy is fourth line. So you're definitely the trope to ADC of choice in HR positiveHER2 negative, the trope versus other ADCs that are used much earlier in line and in first and second line, for example. And then in triple negative breast cancer, we are absolutely the ADC of choice in that setting.

Operator

Our next question comes from Courtney Breen at Bernstein. Courtney, go ahead. Your line is open.

Courtney Breen
Senior Research Analyst at Bernstein

Hi, all. Thanks so

Courtney Breen
Senior Research Analyst at Bernstein

much for taking the question. I just wanted to ask a little bit about the once yearly lenacapavir. We obviously saw the early data presented at CROI. It seems with the timeline that in associated with that press release that there could be a different trial design than what we've seen in purpose one and purpose two. Can you just talk about whether there is any potential for expedited PK or PD package relative to an efficacy trial or what might be needed to get one CLE to market for PrEP?

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks, Courtney for the questions. That's very insightful, right? We are currently looking into the different study designs, right? We have not commented exactly on what we're planning on doing at this point in time. But you're absolutely right.

Dietmar Berger
Dietmar Berger
Chief Medical Officer at Gilead Sciences

There are different study designs that you can utilize and potentially a PK based approach is a possibility that we're discussing.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Abrahams at RBC Capital Markets. Brian, go ahead. Your line is open.

Brian Abrahams
Brian Abrahams
MD & Global Sector Head - Health Care Research at RBC Capital Markets

Hi there. Thanks so much for taking my question. A question for Joanna around the potential on the ground dynamics for lenacapavir and PrEP. Can you give us a sense of the awareness across the target physician practices of the drug? The number of sites or maybe proportion of your target practices that are going be ready to order and administer the drug at launch, and where provider stands with regards to capacity and bandwidth to administer it?

Brian Abrahams
Brian Abrahams
MD & Global Sector Head - Health Care Research at RBC Capital Markets

Thanks.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Okay. So I think from an awareness standpoint, the awareness is actually quite high, both at the health care provider level, but also at the within the community. And think we're leveraging both of those pieces as we think about how do we prepare for our launch. We're also very targeted, right? We know that about seventy five percent of HIV prescribers are the one prescribing PrEP today.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

So at launch, that's really our target, is really around differentiating lanacapabir versus current options, making sure that we are setting them up for success and creating a very smooth customer experience. To your point about number of sites, we've been very targeted on our approach in the first thirty days. We have a thirty day plan, ninety day plan. And we're also very clear as some clinics are set up to do buy and bill today, and they currently do it. Those are clinics that might be a little bit more open to do buy and bill with lenacapavir.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

So we know those, and we're making sure that they're they have all the training necessary to be able to do so as of at post launch. And but then you also have a lot of clinics that do not have that set up, and we'll need to go through a more of a a white bagging process through specialty pharmacy. And the optionality here is gonna be really important, and that's what we wanna make sure we offer and that we train folks, not just the health care providers, to be honest with you, but actually anybody in the clinic that's managing this. And so we have a team of folks ready to go, not just our medical and sales teams, but we also have nurse educators, making sure people know how to inject, making sure they can help any with any questions they might have. But we also have field reimbursement managers that are going to be in the field, basically, making sure that we can track and follow to make sure they get reimbursed, especially as you think about the first six months or so.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

As plans are just coming online, it's going to take a little bit of time. And so most prescriptions will get a medical exception, and we just want to make sure that we're tracking those to make sure we can help clinics, and health care providers, follow through on that so that they can get started on lenacapavir as quickly as possible.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mohit Bansal. Mohit, go ahead. Your line is open.

Mohit Bansal
Mohit Bansal
Managing Director at Wells Fargo Securities

Great. Thank you for taking my question. I would love to love for you to comment on a couple of macro themes that that that we hear a lot as they pertain to Gilead. One is, of course, about about the NIH funding cards and and potential for funding cards regarding something which could help with the HIV awareness and and and Pap awareness thing. And then number two is potential for Medicaid cuts and how it pertains to Gilead and if Gilead can actually operate in an environment like that.

Mohit Bansal
Mohit Bansal
Managing Director at Wells Fargo Securities

Thank you.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks, Mohit. Let me start. This is Dan, And then, Joanna can turn the ad as well. I just want to repeat that we haven't seen or heard anything to date that would cause us to alter our plans or expectations, in the HIV field, including the LEN for PrEP launch. I mean, I think it's just too early to speculate on anything related to Medicaid at this stage.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

There's no confirmed cuts at this time. I believe the administration understands the importance of particularly chronic diseases and prevention as they approach that. I'd also say at the CDC side, we're obviously strong supporters of the CDC and also the role that NIH plays creating a scientific community. But specifically relative to CDC, it's still too early to understand any impact on particularly CDC programs. They're generally focused on, you know, supporting prep utilization with community outreach, provider training, education.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Those are also things that we do as well. And maybe I'll turn it over to Joanna to say, you know, how she sees it in terms of how some of our programs may be able to make sure that services are delivered to the people that need these medicines.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Thanks, Dan. Yeah. We've we've been tracking this very closely and, obviously, making sure that the work that we do continues and and it in some areas gets accelerated or elevated where necessary, where there might be, some gaps, where necessary, and where HIV incidence is maybe higher as well, right, where there's a greater need. So we're very targeted in our approach. And then just going back to, you know, obviously, there's nothing in play, and we wouldn't speculate about anything around Medicaid.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

But I just wanna remind everybody this we're talking about HIV. These are individuals that if they need access to HIV medicines, they will find other channels for coverage. Because if they don't, unfortunately, HIV will turn into AIDS, they will die. And so there, in the past, what we have seen is if one channel is closed, they go to another. And there are many different channels where they can go to today, including some federal, but some state funded approaches, as well as Gilead programs that they can just make sure that they get over these access barriers.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

So I just want to pause on that.

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Hammond at Wolfe. Alex, go ahead. Your line is open.

Alexandria Hammond
Director, Head of Therapeutics at Wolfe Research LLC

Thanks for taking the question.

Alexandria Hammond
Director, Head of Therapeutics at Wolfe Research LLC

How should we think about the potential impact of the 340B channel mix on HIV pricing for '25? And how do you expect utilization to compare to what was seen in 2024? Thank you.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

So again, at this time, there there is nothing new that we we are seeing for 340B. We've seen a growth actually of 340B over 20 you know, in every quarter from '24 into 2025. We hope that stabilizes. We believe in the 340B channel absolutely for what it was designed originally to do. We just want a little bit more transparency because that would really help cut out some of the duplicates that we're currently seeing as well across some of our different therapeutic areas.

Operator

Our last question comes from Simon Baker at Redburn Atlantic. Simon, go ahead. Your line is open.

Simon Baker
Partner at Redburn Atlantic

Thanks for taking my question. Going back to the Part D redesign, we've talked about the impact. I just wondered if you could give us some thoughts on when you are expecting to see a potential benefit, as the lower cost of patients increases starts and increases stay time? I'm guessing it's too early now. But as the year goes on, when should we start to see an offsetting positive impact from the changes that have been made?

Simon Baker
Partner at Redburn Atlantic

Thanks so much.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

Yeah. Thanks for the question. In terms of volume, given the number of safety nets that I was just referring to earlier, there's so many programs that are available today that exist for HIV. We're not expecting to see a material uptick from the Part D reform. We're obviously going to track it super closely.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

If we were to see it, it would be later in the year. Just to remind people, when you look at Biktarvy, for example, the level of abandonment of Biktarvy is incredibly low today. And so very different maybe than other therapeutic areas that you might see in chronic diseases, just because of the consequences of not being on an HIV treatment. And so that's why we're monitoring the situation. We haven't included in our numbers like we've shared in the past.

Johanna Mercier
Johanna Mercier
Chief Commercial Officer at Gilead Sciences

And we'll obviously, if we do see something, we'll share with you as soon as we do. But if it was to happen, it would be later in the year.

Operator

That completes the time that we have for questions today. I'll now invite Dan to share any closing remarks.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

Terrific, everybody. Let me wrap up by thanking the Gilead teams that are responsible for this great start to the year. I'll just say that on behalf of all of us, the strong base business growth of 4% year over year and 6% growth in our HIV business, combined with the continued success of the LIDELVI launch and growing demand for Trodelvy alongside the impressive operating margin and earnings per share all demonstrate that we have a strong and efficient business today which I think is extremely important given the current environment that we're all operating in. Now moving forward, we're also excited about what's next. Our diverse pipeline in generating multiple upcoming potential launches including lenacapavir for PrEP, which is weeks away, Libdelzi in further markets, Anitosel and now Tridelvi based on the positive Phase III results from the ASCENT-four study all fill us with great promise as we continue on a diversification approach and confidence in our business overall.

Daniel O’day
Daniel O’day
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Gilead Sciences

So this is an exciting time for Gilead. The ongoing work that we all do for patients in the communities we serve. And I just want to close by thanking you all for joining us today. We look forward to keeping you up to date on our progress as the year continues.

Operator

Goodbye.

Executives
    • Jacquie Ross
      Jacquie Ross
      VP, IR
    • Daniel O’day
      Daniel O’day
      Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
    • Johanna Mercier
      Johanna Mercier
      Chief Commercial Officer
    • Dietmar Berger
      Dietmar Berger
      Chief Medical Officer
    • Andrew Dickinson
      Andrew Dickinson
      CFO
    • Cindy Perettie
      Cindy Perettie
      Executive Vice President, Kite
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