Logitech International Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Five. We're making these statements based on our views only as of today. Our actual results could differ materially, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of these statements. We will also discuss non GAAP financial results, and you can find a reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP results and information about our use of non GAAP measures and factors that could impact our financial results and forward looking statements in our press release and in our filings with the SEC. These materials as well as the shareholder letter and a webcast of this call are all available at our Investor Relations page of our website.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

We encourage you to review these materials carefully. Unless noted otherwise, references to net sales growth are constant currency, and comparisons between periods are year over year. This call is being recorded and will be available for a replay on our website. With that, I will now turn the call over to Hanukkah. Hanukkah?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Thanks, Nate, and welcome, everyone, to the call. Fiscal year twenty twenty five was a year of outstanding results for Logitech. We delivered strong, profitable growth, driven by progress against our strategic priorities. Specifically for the year, we delivered 7% constant currency net sales growth. That growth was broad based across geographies, product categories and customers.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

We expanded market share in key product categories and remained the number one or number two player in 11 of the 13 categories that we compete in. We also expanded non GAAP gross margins by 170 basis points and non GAAP operating margins by 70 basis points, growing our operating income to $775,000,000 And we continue to generate a very healthy amount of cash. We generated about $840,000,000 of cash from operations in fiscal 'twenty five, more than one times operating income. And we returned approximately $800,000,000 to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases. Now our success in fiscal twenty five can be attributed to four strategic drivers.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

First, superior products and innovation. Innovation is at the heart of Logitech's strategy and integral to our DNA. In fiscal 'twenty five, we launched 39 new products. Globally, bestsellers included the Combo Touch keyboard case for the new iPad, the Pro X Superlight wireless gaming mouse and the A50 gaming headset family. In China, the new Alto Keys mechanical customizable keyboard became the country's best selling personal workspace mechanical keyboard.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

These launches and the many design awards that we received for innovation illustrate our ability to deliver design led software enabled hardware innovation that delights users around the world. Second, we doubled down on b to b. Logitech for Business played an important role in Logitech's success this year. We saw healthy end customer demand growth of about 7% in dollars. Investments in smarter products and go to market capabilities fueled growth across video collaboration, headsets, and personal workspace products sold to enterprise customers.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

We're also seeing great expansion in our education vertical with double digit year over year demand growth. And we're seeing double digit growth in services revenue. Third, excellent execution across our geographies. We rapidly reapplied best practices and proven strategies from market to market to strengthen our global performance across the board. And finally, operational excellence.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Our foundational strength as an operations powerhouse delivered record product cost reductions, driving the second highest annual non GAAP gross margins in the last decade. Our fourth quarter reflected all of these same strategic factors as well as disciplined execution by our teams. I want to extend my appreciation to all of our employees for delivering an excellent fiscal year 2025. Now as we enter fiscal 'twenty six, we are faced with a wide range of potential outcomes when it comes to tariffs, consumer and customer confidence and geopolitics. While acknowledging that uncertainty, we are confident heading into our fiscal year.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Logitech was built to compete in good times and through uncertainty. That's because of a number of unique strengths that we built over the years. We have a balanced global customer base. We generate about two thirds of our global sales outside The United States, which positions us well to manage market specific risks. We invested in a broad diversified manufacturing footprint across six countries.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Today, only about 40% of our products sold in The United States originate from China, with the rest coming from five other countries. We have more room for diversification, and we're able to rapidly shift production to optimize cost and mitigate tariff impacts. By the end of this calendar year, we're planning for only about 10% of US products to be sourced from China. We also invested in a strong globally recognized brand and superior products, which we believe provides brand loyalty and importantly, pricing power. We have a pristine balance sheet offering financial flexibility.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And we invest in people. We have a very experienced operational and commercial team who built expertise through the tariffs of the two previous administrations as well as through COVID-nineteen. Their expertise, frankly, is unmatched in our industry. With this advantaged start point, our approach for the year ahead will be based on three core principles. One, we're going to play offense.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

We aim to decisively expand market share at this time. We exited fiscal year 'twenty five with great momentum, and we believe continued investments in R and D, marketing and sales will help us drive lasting competitive advantage. Two, cost discipline will be critical, both when it comes to product cost and OpEx, especially G and A. And three, agility. We are moving very rapidly to leverage our broad manufacturing footprint and take the necessary commercial actions.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

We know things are fluid, and we're acting fast. So as we look at the first quarter of fiscal twenty six, we expect a number of dynamics to shape performance. Not all of them certain at this point. Here's what we know. We know that the current set of tariffs and exemptions represent about a 200 basis point hit to global gross margins in the first quarter.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

That impact is mitigated in Q1 by the fact that we're still selling through inventory that we were able to proactively pull into The U. S. Before April. Matteo will provide more detail. We also know that we have announced a set of targeted price increases to customers in The United States, which are being implemented from mid April.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

We don't necessarily like to raise prices, but the current context requires it. Our increases are intentionally tailored to select products rather than a one size fits all approach. We've taken into account the role of each product, strategic price points and how to best optimize value for our consumers and B2B customers. Some prices have remained unchanged, others have seen double digit percentage increases, and some fall in between, reflecting a thoughtful, targeted approach. If needed, we believe we have more room for pricing later in the year.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

So that's what we know, but there's also much that we cannot yet know. Even in the current quarter, our final outcomes will depend on any changes that may be made to trade policy, including the scope of tariffs, the countries and the products affected, timings and exemptions. The outcomes will also depend on macroeconomics and consumer as well as B2B customer sentiment and behavior. And finally, there may be geopolitical factors that will shape demand globally. Despite all that uncertainty, we are providing a financial outlook for the first quarter of our 2026 fiscal year.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Matteo will provide the details in just a minute, but at the midpoint, the outlook calls for continued top line growth, supported by healthy growth and operating income margins. The bookends of our outlook essentially contemplate what we believe are possible outcomes based on the known unknowns I just outlined: trade policy, consumer and enterprise sentiment and geopolitical factors. All of that said, what matters beyond the headlines is that the fundamentals of our business are strong and that we operate from an advantaged starting point. Across fiscal 'twenty six, we are going to play offense while exercising strong cost discipline and acting with agility. Logitech was built to compete at times like these, and that's what we plan to do in the year ahead.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Matteo, over to you.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

All right.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Thank you, Annika, and thank you all for joining us on the call today. So the team delivered another good quarter with solid demand and high gross margins of 43.5%. The detailed financial results can be found in the press release and shareholder letter, but let me briefly share with you the key financial highlights. Now the fourth quarter represented the fifth consecutive quarter of year over year net sales growth.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

For the quarter, sell through outpaced the sell in by approximately two points as we aligned our channel inventory with demand following the holiday season. Channel inventory ended within our operating targets, while owned inventory ended the quarter up approximately $20,000,000 quarter over quarter as we proactively built our inventories in advance of the tariffs taking effect. Now within our product categories, keyboards and combos and pointing devices performed very well as the high end of our product lines, the MX and Ergo, had record quarter sales in the quarter. Webcams delivered mid single digit net sales growth, and end user demand remained strong across our gaming portfolio. So for the full fiscal year of 2025, total net sales increased by 7%, in line with the outlook that we provided at our third quarter earnings call and during the Investor Day in March.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Our top line growth year over year was broad based across all regions and across our key product lines with the exception of webcams. However, webcams finished the year with strong momentum, and we remain the market leader in this key category. Our growth continues to be extremely profitable with non GAAP gross margin rate of 43.5% for the full year of 2025. So for the fiscal year of 2025, non GAAP gross margin rate increased by 170 basis points compared to the prior year, thanks to a reduction in our product cost, partially offset by higher promotions and the negative impact of foreign exchange. Operating expenses were approximately EUR 1,200,000,000.0 for the year, corresponding to 26.5% of net sales.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Now this amount includes approximately EUR 23,000,000 of bad debt reserve recorded in sales and marketing expense due to the inability of our e commerce payment provider, Digital River, to pay us. Now of this amount, 40,000,000 was recorded in third quarter, and the balance was recorded in the fourth quarter. So if we exclude the impact of this charge, our operating expenses as a percentage of net sales would have been 26%. So for fiscal year '20 '20 '5, non GAAP operating income was $775,000,000 or 17% of net sales, up 70 basis points compared to the prior year as a result of the gross margin expansion that I just mentioned. Our cash generation continued to be extremely strong.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

We generated approximately $40,000,000 of cash from operation, more than one time the operating income, of which approximately $800,000,000 was returned to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases. Our cash balance at the end of the year was 1,500,000,000.0 I would like to congratulate the entire Logitech team for an outstanding fiscal year in 2025. We returned to high single digit profitable growth, generated strong cash flow. And in the absence of M and A, we returned cash that we generated back to our shareholders. Now looking ahead to fiscal year 2026, we are not immune to the tariff uncertainty and the overall volatility in the current macroeconomic environment.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Our ability to provide a long term outlook is predicated upon a modicum of stability with the within the broader economy. And without the stability, it is virtually impossible to provide an outlook that looks beyond the next quarter. Hence, why we withdrew our outlook for the fiscal year ahead. So today, we are providing a financial outlook for the first quarter of our fiscal twenty twenty six year. Net sales in the quarter are expected to be between flat to plus 5% in constant currency compared to the prior year.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Gross margins will be between 4142% and non GAAP operating income between $155,000,000 and 185,000,000 Now in the first quarter, the negative impact of the current tariffs on our global gross margin rates will be approximately 200 basis points. This impact is mitigated in the first quarter by the fact that we are still selling through the inventory that entered The United States before April. Otherwise, we estimate the impact would be approximately 500 basis points at a company level. The range of our outlook incorporates different outcomes on the variables that are currently unknown, such as the consumer and the enterprise sentiment and the timing of the price realization in the quarter. So for sure, the environment is challenging, but as Hanke pointed out, Logitech is built for this.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

So with that, I think we can turn over to q and a.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Thank you, Matteo. As mentioned, we will now move into the q and a session. Please use the raise hand icon located on your Zoom toolbar to indicate that you have a question. And when I call in your name, please turn on your video and unmute yourselves. Our first question will come from Assia Merchant with Citi.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Assia?

Asiya Merchant
Technology Equity Research at Citigroup Global Markets Inc.

Oh, great. Thank you, everyone. Just if I can double click a little bit, Matte, on the gross margins, how we should think about that? You're talking about some impacts here. And with respect to the pricing that's gone through, is that reflected in your June guide on the top line as well?

Asiya Merchant
Technology Equity Research at Citigroup Global Markets Inc.

If you can just kind of parse out the impact on the top line from the price increases and then how we should think about gross margins given the tariff impacts that you just highlighted? Thank you.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Sure, Assia. Sure. Thank you for your question. So the way I would describe the gross margin rate, so we are going from about 43.5% roughly in the first quarter of last year to about 41.5%. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, about 200 basis points negative impact comes from the tariffs.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

And this obviously factors in the fact that we are still consuming the inventory that came in before the tariff took place. We have about another 100 basis points of impact coming from the effect that last year in the first quarter, if you recall, we were still releasing some previously recorded inventory reserve as the inventory was coming down, and we are not expecting this to happen again in the current quarter. So this negative impact of about 300 basis points when you combine the both factors are partially offset by about 100 basis points of positive income coming from price. So if you look at the price, as Annika mentioned, you know, we we don't like necessarily to raise price, but we had to. And, this is, really focused on The US.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

We have, we did a very meticulous approach. We looked at SKU by SKU, and some products are, you know, the price didn't change. Others increased double digit, and we have a bunch of products in the middle. But when you normalize and factor all of this in, that's about 10% of price increase on our, US product. And keep in mind that, you know, it's it's great to be a Swiss and global company today, and only about a third of our revenue is coming in The United States.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

So that's how you unpack the numbers.

Asiya Merchant
Technology Equity Research at Citigroup Global Markets Inc.

Thank you. And any early indications on how customers are reacting to these price increases? I guess they they go in in April. So I don't know if you have any early indications on that.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. It's too early really to say. You know, we started implementation from mid April. It always takes a little while for these prices to be reflected on shelves across across the country and online. So really too early to say, but we do believe from previous price increases around the world that our strong brand and our superior products will protect us to a large extent.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Sometimes there's a bit of an impact in the short term. We will see.

Asiya Merchant
Technology Equity Research at Citigroup Global Markets Inc.

Thank you.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Thank you.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric from Morgan Stanley. Eric?

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions here. Two, if I may. You know, one one and realize we're in a pretty unprecedented period here.

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

So, you know, I Hanukkah, I I I kinda completely understand where you're going with your comments on kind of global production. 40% from of global production or of U. S. Production comes from China. Today, the goal is to get by 10% by the end of calendar twenty five.

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

I'm just wondering what that means for your Suzhou facility. Does that just mean that you're shifting most production of Suzhou to international markets? Or are you downsizing that facility? And and really, the question comes from, historically, this has kind of been a an area of strength for Logitech. You get IP production.

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

You get flexibility to respond to demand. So so just curious kind of what this means for for Suzhou, and, again, how we should be thinking about then where your US product will then come from if it's not China. And then a and then a quick follow-up, please. Thanks.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. Sure. Thanks, Eric. Great to see you. I'm not worried about Suzhou because, again, if you do the math, 70% of our sales are not for The United States.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And already, only 40% of what does go to The United States is in China, and that will go to TENS. It's actually a relatively small part. And, of course, Suzhou will continue to play a very large role for in terms of production for the rest of the world. So Suzhou is nice and full. The fact that we just had such a great year with seven percent, you know, top line growth, obviously, also helps to fill Suzhou.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

So no worries there. Where does that US volume go? You know, we're in the fortunate position that we have invested in a really diversified manufacturing footprint. We're China plus five other countries today. So while I won't say it's easy to shift volume, our team is doing a fantastic job at shifting volume fast to mitigate tariff impacts.

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you, Hanukkah. And then, you know, I I realized that Asiya's question was maybe about how how customers have responded to pricing increases.

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Maybe I'll ask it different ways. Just how is spending linearity tracked kinda quarter to date, whether that's versus past June quarters or past Aprils or even relative to the month of March? And really just trying to get at, you know, pull forward versus push out of demand. How are you seeing customers respond to just general tariff and policy volatility with their wallets, whether that's an enterprise, an SMB, or a consumer? Just how is the customer responding over this last month of chaos relative to either past years or last quarter?

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Thanks so much, guys.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. Yeah. Let me let me have a stab at that. So on the consumer side of our business, I'd say the consumer remains very resilient for our products. So in the last quarter, so in the March, you know, there was low single digit market growth in in The Americas and in Europe in our categories and high double digits in APAC.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And consumer demand for our strides was also was strong as you see in in our numbers. We also grew share across regions. So in in in the March, things were looking really good. And on the consumer side, again, in North America in the last four weeks, we're kinda seeing a range of behaviors. There's certainly you know, you see it on TikTok, this kind of no buy movement.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

So there's some people who are really starting to be frugal. There is also a, you know, a significant amount of consumers who are pulling purchases forward. And then there's also a segment I would call it, you know, YOLO. You only live once. I'm gonna spend it all right now, and I'm gonna spend it on expensive stuff.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

So the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but, again, I I would say that some of that is that the consumer for our brand and our products remains, you know, pretty good around the world. On the b to b side, in the last quarter, we did see a bit more caution, especially in Europe, driven by the uncertainty in the market. And I think, you know, most companies are just a little more hesitant to, to pull the trigger on big purchases, big CapEx investments. That said, global demand even on Logitech for business was still comfortably positive, mid single digit up. So we're optimistic.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And, of course, video conferencing in and of itself is kind of a natural hedge, you know, as companies say, I wanna reduce t and e, I wanna reduce travel, you need great video conferencing to offset that.

Erik Woodring
Erik Woodring
Managing Director - Equity Research at Morgan Stanley

Thanks so much, guys. Good luck.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Thank you. Thanks, Eric.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Our next question comes from Samek Chatterjee with JPMorgan.

Samik Chatterjee
Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director at JP Morgan

Hi. Thanks for taking my question, and hope you can hear me. Maybe just following up on Eric's question on the demand side in another way, which is you did have sell in track better than sell through in the quarter by 200 basis points. And from what I remember, the expectation was in fiscal twenty five, you had a inventory build in the first half, and you were expecting some moderation in that inventory in the second half. So did that run a bit counter to what you were expecting in the quarter in relation to sort of price increases?

Samik Chatterjee
Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director at JP Morgan

Did you see the channel actually pull forward some demand into the quarter, and what are expecting as you go through more the first quarter of, or the June, really? And I have a follow-up.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Thank you. So, Mick, actually, the the sell through outpaced the sell in in the in the in the in the in the fourth quarter. So the other way around, which is actually what really we were expecting, which is pretty normal coming out from the holiday quarter. And to Anke's point earlier, we're very happy with where the channel is, where the channel ended the year. Obviously, our own inventory was a little higher because we took the proactive steps to bring in some products before the tariffs.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

But overall, we should not see the same dynamic that we saw in at the beginning of fiscal year twenty twenty five, where the channel was too low and we had to sell in, outpacing sell through for the first few months. Our plan is to have sell in mirror the sell through in the upcoming quarters, thanks to the work that the team has done in making sure that we had a healthy channel and in the fiscal year.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. Yeah. And and just to reemphasize that, so what we said all along from from a year ago is that in the first half, sell in would be greater than sell out. And in the second half, sell out will be greater than sell in. That's exactly what play out what played out.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And that's why you see that for the year as a whole, the fiscal, you know, net sales and sell out are pretty much in the same space. The sell out data is never perfect, so but it's very close enough for government work.

Samik Chatterjee
Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director at JP Morgan

Nope. Got it. Thank you. Thanks for that. I apologize.

Samik Chatterjee
Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director at JP Morgan

I might have read it read it wrong. So maybe just moving back to the discussion on tariffs and the first quarter sort of of the fiscal year you're outlining, you the benefit from price, but you have sort of a part headwind from the tariff. What's the end goal here by the time you get to moving most of that capacity that's addressing The US demand? Once you get to that point, are we back to where your gross margins are in this sort of 43% range because pricing ramps up for the and you have offset most of that, or what do we see as a residual impact? How do you think about the residual impact at that point?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. It it's really too early for us, Samik, to speculate on that. And there's just too many moving pieces at this point, which is why we're only giving you an outlook for the first quarter. What what I can say let me give you a little bit more color on some of the variables that could change and why we can't speculate on what the outcome may be. So the you know, let's start from a great thing, which is that two thirds of our sales are outside of The US, so they're not affected by tariffs.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

That's a good start point. But for the one third that's in The US, that portfolio of products is affected in a number of different ways today. The tariffs themselves, the exemptions, the countries of origin, the product classification, the way we're moving products around. So as I look at the business today, part of The US volume is exempt, zero tariffs. Part is at 10%.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Part is at 20%. And there's a small part that's today at a 45 plus percent. But all that said, it's a moving feast. The impact literally is changing on almost a daily basis based on trade policy announcements, product classification, and importantly, by our own actions as we move products around. So given that it's a moving feast, rather than providing you with details on how the sausages are being made, we're sharing the expected outcome for the first quarter with you, which is that 200 basis points of tariff impact on the global gross margin.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And we're going to continue to update you as the year unfolds, but it is too early to speculate on what might happen after.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Maybe let me add, Samik, The, I think it's important also to, put into perspective what we control. Alright? So and some of the actions they were taking. So Hanukkah discussed about price. We also proactively took actions, in some of the cost control.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Right? So one product cost. I think we have a fantastic track record. You saw what the team and Sri and the team have done in 2025. Almost 300 basis points of the margin expansion that you saw in total year came from their work.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

So that work will continue, will never stop. And then we took some proactive approach on OpEx side, right, particularly on G and A. So as you hear many companies doing around the world, we are doing the same. We are curbing all the controllable spend. We are cutting travel.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

We delayed most of the hirings. And then obviously, we are pushing, and as Hanak mentioned earlier, manufacturing diversification, which will take us from the 60% to the 10% that we just discussed. So that's what you can count on us. The rest is difficult for us to control.

Samik Chatterjee
Samik Chatterjee
Executive Director at JP Morgan

Thank you. Thanks for taking the questions.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Our next question comes from Austin Baker with Loop Capital. Austin?

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for the time. Hope everyone can hear me. I guess, to peel the onion back a little bit, we'd just love to talk about kind of in an uncertain macro environment, what do you guys feel are probably the most in these demand resilient products? And then secondly, strategically, I know you spoke about going on offense.

Analyst

Where would you want to spend the most focus and the most time? What categories in that kind of weakuncertain macro environment?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Great question. Thank you. So indeed, as we go through the year, those three principles start from playing offense and gaining share so we come out of this stronger. And we really believe we can do that if we couple it with cost discipline as well as agility on manufacturing and and some commercial actions. So where do we see the most resilience?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

I would say, honestly, across our portfolio. Let me start from gaming. You know, we learned a lot on gaming in the last few years in China, where the economy has been soft for a while, but the gaming market has been growing, at more than 20% for a while in China. And we put in place a China for China for China program almost a year ago, and I'm really pleased by the results that we're seeing on that program. So we know that we can win when the economy is soft.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

We know there's a little bit of a lipstick effect with consumers. If you can't you if you don't have money to go out to the movies, to go out to eat, to go on a vacation, you are likely to game more, and you wanna have the right gear to be winning that game. So we certainly saw that dynamic in China. So we're really upbeat on gaming. And I would also say, you know, gaming had a 10%, a double digit growth year for us in fiscal twenty five, so the momentum on gaming is also very, very strong.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

And then on the work side, people still have to work. People are still working from multiple places, which is a real tailwind for our portfolio. If you're working from home, from the office, and from a hotel, you need three mice, you need three keyboards, and you definitely need video conferencing when your boss tells you you can't travel anymore. So we feel that portfolio is really well set up for this future.

Analyst

Makes sense. Thank you for the time.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Thanks, Austin.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Our next question comes from Michael with Vontobel. Michael?

Michael Foeth
Analyst at Vontobel

Yes. Hi. Good evening. Everyone. Two questions from my side.

Michael Foeth
Analyst at Vontobel

The the first one is in in terms of, shifting, you know, your your production footprint for US products. Maybe can you comment on sort of what the hurdles are? How is that phased through the year? Or maybe which products are more difficult to move than others? And my second question would be on the logistics environment that you're seeing right now.

Michael Foeth
Analyst at Vontobel

Are you seeing, you know, any particular spikes in freight rates? Any any bottlenecks? Any disruptions in terms of in terms of trade flows right now?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. I'll leave the logistics question to Matteo just now. But on the, you know, moving our manufacturing footprint, we have invested for six or seven years now in having a much more resilient footprint. So the fact that we're, I would call it, China plus five today, five other countries where we make multiple, multiple products makes it, I think, it's never easy, but it is more doable for us to move very quickly than for many others. Because to set up a new country with its supplier ecosystem, with the labor that you need there, is not easy, but we have done it.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

It's in place, which, again, our team is doing heroic work, but it's easier than if we had to start from scratch, which is why we feel that or why we know that by the end of the year, again, we'll go from 40% products in The US originating from China to about 10%. And that's that's absolutely doable, and it's doable across most of the portfolio. And, you know, we're we're always looking at individual SKUs. If there's an opportunity to simplify the portfolio, we also will always do that. But I'm not worried about specific parts of the portfolio that cannot be moved.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Michael, on the freight, we are not seeing yet, at least so far in the quarter, major changes on the on the pricing. I would say, I look at the the lanes, maybe a few a little bit cheaper price on the European, the Asian to Europe lane. But the the one from Asia to The US, I have not seen any. Still a little bit up year over year when you compare the first quarter of twenty six versus, first quarter of twenty five. It's probably is reasonable to expect that, based on what we read on the on the news that rates may may come down, but we haven't seen it yet.

Michael Foeth
Analyst at Vontobel

Okay. Thank you, and good luck.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

You're welcome.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Thanks, Our

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

next question comes from Didier from Bank of America.

Didier Scemama
Didier Scemama
Equity Research - Head of EMEA Tech Hardware & Semiconductor Research at Bank of America

Yeah. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I just have a couple. First of all, you so much for all the insights, numbers that you've shared with us on the impact of tariffs.

Didier Scemama
Didier Scemama
Equity Research - Head of EMEA Tech Hardware & Semiconductor Research at Bank of America

I appreciate it must be incredibly difficult at this time to navigate this very uncertain environment. So really extremely grateful. My question would be first on the September. So you've talked about the June gross margin benefiting from inventories that are shipped into the channel prior to tariffs. Is there any lingering positive effect that we can expect in the September?

Didier Scemama
Didier Scemama
Equity Research - Head of EMEA Tech Hardware & Semiconductor Research at Bank of America

And then on the maybe December, when how should we think about the impact of tariffs as things stands with regards to the, know, moving out of China impact? E. G, does does do your gross margins drop a lot effectively in the September and perhaps in the December before they ramp back up? How should we think about the phasing?

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

So the, let me start with the the first question. Sorry.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. On the September. I think overall, Didier, it is too early to speculate on any of that. But I'll let Mateo answer this.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

The the inventory will be depleted. So the the positive impact of the of the inventory, that's why we outlined in the way we did, is specific for the first quarter, and that will be gone after the first quarter. So that's I think it's fair to say. The second part of your question, quite frankly, is as Anika said, is a little premature for us to comment.

Didier Scemama
Didier Scemama
Equity Research - Head of EMEA Tech Hardware & Semiconductor Research at Bank of America

My my thank thank you so so much for that. Just want to double check one thing. I think the answer is yes. Just want to make sure the ninety day pause that, you know, we saw on the headlines on, you know, smartphone and smartphone and PCs, they do include PC peripherals as far as you understand.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. So all the numbers that we've given you for q one take into account tariffs as they stand today, which includes the ninety day pause. So where I said, you know, we have part of the portfolio for The US that's at 0%. We have a part at 10, a part at 20, and a part at a hundred and 45 plus at the moment. So the answer is yes.

Didier Scemama
Didier Scemama
Equity Research - Head of EMEA Tech Hardware & Semiconductor Research at Bank of America

Superb. Brilliant. Thanks very much.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Thank you.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Our next question comes from George with Barclays. George? George?

George Wang
Vice President at Barclays Investment Bank

Oh, hey. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Two quick ones. So firstly, just just maybe you can elaborate on this 500 basis points impact on the gross margin without any more selling through the inventory pre tariff.

George Wang
Vice President at Barclays Investment Bank

Just curious if we should assume no price hike on existing products for your base case for to calculate this 500 basis point? Because to me, it seems a little bit high in terms of the impact. Just just curious if you can give a bit more color, you know, assumptions behind it.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Sure. So, George, the 500 basis points, let me unpack it for you, includes the impact of the tariffs as they stand today and the impact of the manufacturing diversification actions as they stand today. It does not include the price, the impact of the price actions, right? So that's where we will have to see, obviously, how the consumer and the enterprise customer will behave and really our ability to realize the price increases that we communicated in mid April. So 500,000,000 is just the impact of the tariffs, net of the manufacturing actions.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. And again, we have taken pricing now, and you've Matteo outlined that's so in the first quarter, '2 hundred basis points of negative tariff impact and 100 basis points positive of pricing. We will see. There may be more room for pricing, but again, too early to speculate on what or when that might be.

George Wang
Vice President at Barclays Investment Bank

Okay. Great. Just just quick follow-up to just, you know, kind of talk about items you can control in terms of operating expense control, kind of g and a. You kinda alluded to maybe tighter control. Can you can you elaborate on other levers you guys can pull?

George Wang
Vice President at Barclays Investment Bank

Just curious if we should expect a bit more sort of a tighter control just on the operating expense and G and A kind of can pull through more accretion to the EPS line.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

Sure, George. So, I think it goes beyond OpEx. It's really control around cost. So it's both the product. So, back to some of the things that, we discussed at Investor Day, all the activities of value engineering, supplier cost reduction, so that will continue.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

And we have a very good track record as you've seen in the numbers that we published today even even in the fourth quarter of twenty five. Then specifically on the operating expenses, our we're gonna be laser focused. We're gonna primarily focus our actions on g and a. We will continue, obviously, to fund the investment in product development and sales and marketing. Back to the, principles that Hanke mentioned at the beginning of the call.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

And on g and a, we are really working on a couple of buckets. We are curbing all the controllable expenses such as the contractors, you know, outside services, consulting, cutting t and e, and delaying most of the hires. And that's kind of the actions that, that that we are taking.

George Wang
Vice President at Barclays Investment Bank

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

You bet.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

That was our last question for the raised hands. We do have some submitted questions from with UBS. Having some audio issues, so I'll just read those out loud if that's okay. One of the questions was sell through in EMEA slowed down materially, and why is this happening?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. Happy to talk about Europe. The first thing I'll say about Europe is that, you know, they had a great fiscal year '20 '5. '9 percent constant currency sales growth, is just testament to fabulous execution by our team in Europe, and that's growing well ahead of the European market for the year. Q four was a little slower, and that's there are a couple of reasons.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Inventory adjustments in Europe, we were probably most assertive in terms of making sure we had a great holiday season, which we did have, but we were assertive on bringing in inventory. And in the last quarter, we were responsible at bringing that back down. But like in other regions, we're seeing a resilient consumer in Europe. Maybe a little bit of caution again, same as the global dynamic amongst b to b customers that was exacerbated by the German elections that also fell in the quarter. Just a little bit of caution there.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

But we definitely, are confident that that business will return to growth.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Okay. One more question here. What is the price versus volume assumption for Q1 26E?

Matteo Anversa
Matteo Anversa
Chief Financial Officer at Logitech International

We have, Jorn, we have about 100 basis points on the gross margin coming in, thanks to price. So I'll let you do the math. But that's the assumption that we have in the first quarter.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

Thank you. And this would be our final question. How can you organize the supply chain so quickly that only 10% of US sales will come from China end of the year?

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Yeah. Again, this company was built to compete at a time like this. I cannot say it often enough. We have a global very broad global sales footprint, so only 30% of our volume is US. But that US volume, which is obviously really important to us, we have been preparing since 2019 to be super resilient on that.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

So we have China plus five manufacturing countries in place and ready to go and producing for us today, which is a huge competitive advantage and is allowing us to move much faster than most.

Nate Melihercik
Nate Melihercik
Head of Global Investor Relations at Logitech International

That was our final question. Thank you.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Thank you so much. Thanks, everyone. Thanks for bearing with us at this fun time. We really appreciate you you joining us. I just wanna summarize to say that our teams had an outstanding 2025 fiscal year.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

So thank you to our teams. And looking ahead, I am excited about the opportunity that's before us. We are going to play offense. We're gonna assertively manage costs and continue to be super, super agile. And we look forward to speaking with you next quarter.

Hanneke Faber
Hanneke Faber
CEO at Logitech International

Take care, everyone.

Executives
    • Nate Melihercik
      Nate Melihercik
      Head of Global Investor Relations
    • Hanneke Faber
      Hanneke Faber
      CEO
    • Matteo Anversa
      Matteo Anversa
      Chief Financial Officer
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