Warrior Met Coal Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Dovan, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Warrior First Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session.

Operator

This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I would like to turn the call over to Brian Chopin, Chief Accounting Officer and Controller. Please go ahead.

Brian Chopin
Brian Chopin
SVP, Chief Accounting Officer and Controller at Warrior Met Coal

Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Warrior's first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made during this call, including statements relating to our expected future business and financial performance, may be considered forward looking statements according to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward looking statements by their nature address matters that are to different degrees uncertain. These uncertainties, which are described in more detail in the company's annual and quarterly reports filed with the SEC, may cause our actual future results to be materially different from those expected in our forward looking statements. We do not undertake to update our forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as may be required by law.

Brian Chopin
Brian Chopin
SVP, Chief Accounting Officer and Controller at Warrior Met Coal

For more information regarding forward looking statements, please refer to the company's press releases and SEC filings. We will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which are defined and reconciled to comparable GAAP financial measures in our first quarter press release furnished to the SEC on Form eight ks, which is also posted on our website. Additionally, we will be filing our Form 10 Q for the quarter ending 03/31/2025 with the SEC this afternoon. You can find additional information regarding the company on our website at www.warriormetcoal.com, which also includes a first quarter supplemental slide deck that was posted this afternoon. Today on the call with me are Mr.

Brian Chopin
Brian Chopin
SVP, Chief Accounting Officer and Controller at Warrior Met Coal

Walt Scheller, Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Dale Boyles, Chief Financial Officer. After our formal remarks, we'll be happy to answer any questions. With that, I will now turn the call over to Walt.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Thanks, Brian. Hello, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today to discuss our first quarter twenty twenty five results. After my remarks, Dale will review our results in additional detail, then you'll have the opportunity to ask questions. While weak market conditions continued as we expected through the first quarter, I'm pleased with our relentless focus on our operations, which enabled us to deliver an increase in volumes, performs well from a cost perspective and generated positive cash margins. This operational backbone gives us the ability to drive strong performance relative to the market despite the current macro headwinds.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

At the same time, we continue to make excellent progress at Blue Creek with the work this quarter keeping us on budget and on schedule for the startup of the longwall at this world class growth project. Let us start by looking at the current dynamics of the market for steelmaking coal. We've seen a dramatic change in the steelmaking coal markets where average premium low vol index prices have dropped by 40% or $112 per short ton compared to last year's first quarter. First quarter premium low vol prices averaged $280 per short ton in the first quarter of twenty twenty four compared to $168 per short ton in the first quarter of this year. In addition, average index pricing for our High Vol A product has decreased 43% in that same time period.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

We've now seen four consecutive quarters of weakening steelmaking coal prices. While we cannot control market fundamentals, we can't control our response to these weaker markets by tightly managing our spending at the mines, operating the mines as efficiently as possible and rationalizing all other spending throughout the organization. On the supply and demand side, overall market fundamentals for the past quarter were weak, but generally in line with our expectations. Chinese steel exports remained at elevated levels and continued to stress our customers domestic and export markets, while global demand for steel was challenging. On the steelmaking coal side, supply remained healthy while some customers engaged in a resale of cargoes, both of which contributed to a weaker pricing environment for our markets.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

However, we were again reminded of how vulnerable the steelmaking coal supply chain is with several mining events occurring at other steelmaking coal facilities during the first quarter, which could potentially impact the reliability of supply for several quarters this year. Trade flows have also been impacted following China's decision to apply retaliatory tariffs on U. S. Steelmaking coals, which is essentially halted coal trade between both countries. It is too early to quantify or for that matter adequately assess the impacts of U.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

S. Trade policy announcements will have on the flow of steelmaking coals, but we continue to monitor the situation closely. Prices at these levels are especially challenging for other steelmaking coal producers higher on the cost curve than we are. Even the recent disruptions in global mining production have only had an insignificant impact on seaborne pricing. Our cost discipline continues to be a key differentiator for us in this environment.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

As I noted earlier, average premium steelmaking coal prices have now declined for four straight quarters since last year's first quarter. Our primary index, the POV FOB Australia ended the first quarter at 153 per short ton, which was $25 per short ton lower than the end of the fourth quarter twenty twenty four and averaged $168 for the first quarter twenty twenty five. Similar declines were observed in the Platts LVHCC index for our High Vol A product sold primarily into Asia, which ended the first quarter at $126 per short ton. This was $15 per short ton lower than the end of the previous quarter. We achieved the gross price realization of 83% for the first quarter, which was a function of product mix, geography, tariffs and freight rates.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

This result was slightly lower than our annual targeted range of 85% to 90% and could be lower throughout this year as spreads have widened more in the last twelve months than historically. According to the World Steel Association monthly report, global pig iron production decreased by 0.2% in the first three months of twenty twenty five as compared to the prior year period. Iron production in China, which is the world's largest production region, grew by 0.8% for the same period. The rest of the world's pig iron production experienced a decline of 2.2% for the first three months of twenty twenty five. India remains a bright spot with a growth rate of 6.2% and is expected to continue growing with new blast furnace capacity expected to come online this year.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Now, let me turn to our first quarter results. Importantly, our strong sales volume was driven by excellent performance from our existing mines. Our first quarter sales volume was 2,200,000 short tons compared to 2,100,000 short tons in last year's same quarter, representing a 2% increase. This increase is particularly notable given the market dynamics I described earlier. Our sales by geography for the first quarter break down as follows: 43% into Asia, 30 7 Percent into Europe and 20% into South America.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Most of the sales into Asia during the first quarter were customers in India and other Southeast Asian countries. There were no sales into China during the first quarter this year. Our spot volume was 8% for the first quarter twenty twenty five, which is primarily sold into Europe. For the full year, our spot volume is expected to be approximately 15% of total sales volume. Production volume in the first quarter of twenty twenty five was 2,300,000 short tons compared to 2,100,000 short tons in the same quarter of last year, representing a 10% increase.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Our existing mines continued to perform well and the continuous miner units at our Blue Creek mine produced 251,000 short tons during the first quarter and drove the overall increase in production volume. Our coal inventory remained nearly the same at 1,100,000 short tons at the end of the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter twenty twenty four. During the first quarter, we spent $79,000,000 on CapEx and mine development. Of that amount, CapEx spending totaled $69,000,000 Mine development costs for the Blue Creek project were $11,000,000 during the quarter and were below budget. We expect our mine development costs to continue to grow throughout 2025 until the longwall production starts at Blue Creek, which is expected to occur no later than the second quarter twenty twenty six.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Excluding the Blue Creek capital expenditures invested during the first quarter, we tightly managed all other capital spending to $13,000,000 Turning to our transformational Blue Creek growth project. During the first quarter, we continued to make excellent overall progress while remaining on budget and on schedule. The development of the first longwall panel produced 251,000 short tons of steelmaking coal and remains on track to produce 1,000,000 short tons for the full year 2025. We're pleased with the progress that has been made to date in the development as well as our tight management of costs. We started taking delivery of longwall shields during the first quarter and we expect to have all shields on-site during the second quarter of this year.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

In addition, our recruiting and hiring efforts for this new mine continue to be on track. In the first quarter, we continued to make excellent progress on building out the surface infrastructure at Blue Creek, including the overland, clean coal belt and barge loadout. We made considerable progress on the dry slurry processing system, the refuse area and the preparation plant. We're excited to announce that in the last few days subsequent to the end of the first quarter, we hit two major milestones at Blue Creek earlier than expected. We completed the A module of the preparation plant and we started washing coal and preparing it for sale.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

At the preparation plant, we continue to make significant progress on the B and C modules and the full commissioning of those modules remains on schedule. In addition, we recently completed the truck dump at the rail loadout to move the coal from the preparation plant to the rail loadout. Also, we completed the rail loadout where we began loading our first trains to move the Blue Creek coal to the Port Of Mobile. We expect to begin shipping small amounts of Blue Creek product in the second quarter ahead of schedule. We plan to post short videos of these key milestone achievements to our website soon.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

We could not have achieved these major milestones early without our project team continuing to do an excellent job of managing the schedule and capital spending. All remaining key development progress milestones remain on track, including the aforementioned $55,000,000 invested in capital expenditures in the first quarter. The total project investment to date is $772,000,000 which has been 100% funded from internally generated cash flows from existing operations. Equally important, we believe that we have sufficient liquidity on hand to complete the project. We remain focused on tight capital spending discipline until the project is fully completed.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

The total $772,000,000 invested in the development of Blue Creek to this point is more than 70% of the expected total project capital expenditure. Absent any unexpected or unusual event, we continue to believe we will deliver the project on schedule as planned and within our total capital expenditure estimate of approximately $995,000,000 to $1,100,000,000 This estimate excludes the impact of any trade and tariff policy announcements that may be implemented, which could increase the final total estimated cost. While at this point, there's too much uncertainty to quantify any potential impacts of the recent trade and tariff policy announcements, we will continue to monitor the situation and we'll provide any updates at the appropriate times. Blue Creek represents one of the last remaining untapped premium high quality high vol A coal reserves in The U. S.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

And we anticipate this product will generate strong margins. We expect incremental annualized production of at least 4,800,000 short tons after the startup of the longwall ramping to a nameplate capacity of 6,000,000 short tons as market conditions dictate. This will enhance and strengthen our already strong global cost curve positioning and deliver incremental profit and cash flows. I'll now ask Leo to address our first quarter results in greater detail.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Thanks, Walt. I would like to make one overall note on our financial strength and market positioning before diving into the numbers. We have built our company to thrive in most market price environments with strong customer contractual relationships, high quality products that realize premium prices, a low and variable cost structure and strong balance sheet. As a result, we believe demand for our products will continue even in the current market conditions and in the face of uncertainty of trade and tariff policy changes. We also have the flexibility to continue to rationalize and manage our cost and capital spending.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

These are unique assets. In addition, we have the remaining capital anticipated to be needed to fund the completion of the Blue Creek project with cash on our balance sheet. We do not expect to slow down or suspend the project if these market conditions continue to persist for a prolonged period. All of which means we can both weather the storm and emerge well positioned for the future. Now let us look at more detail on our first quarter financial results.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, Warrior recorded a net loss on a GAAP basis of $8,000,000 or $0.16 per diluted share compared to net income of $137,000,000 or $2.62 per diluted share in the same quarter of 2024. These decreases in quarter over quarter results were primarily driven by 42% lower realized average net selling prices, partially offset by lower variable cost for transportation and royalties, other lower production cost spending and 2% higher sales volume. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $40,000,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $200,000,000 in the same quarter of last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 13% in the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to 40% in the same quarter of last year. On a per ton basis, our adjusted EBITDA margin was $18 per short ton for the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $94 in last year's first quarter.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

As I previously mentioned, these decreases in quarter over quarter results were primarily driven by 42% lower realized average net selling prices, partially offset by lower variable costs for transportation and royalties, other lower production cost spending and 2% higher sales volume. Total revenues were $300,000,000 in the first quarter of this year compared to $5.00 $4,000,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. This overall decrease of $2.00 $4,000,000 was primarily due to the decrease in average gross selling prices of $222,000,000 partially offset by the impact of higher sales volume of $9,000,000 In addition, demurrage and other charges were $9,000,000 lower compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four and resulted in an average net selling price of $136 per short ton in the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $234 per short ton in the same quarter of last year. Cash cost of sales in the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $244,000,000 or 83 percent of mining revenues compared to $284,000,000 or 57% of mining revenues in the first quarter of last year. Of the $40,000,000 net decrease in cash cost of sales, dollars 46,000,000 of the decrease was driven primarily by the lower variable transportation royalty cost and 42% lower steelmaking coal prices.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

In addition, we rationalized and tightly managed our spending on supplies and other repairs and maintenance expenses. These decreases were partially offset by a $6,000,000 increase in sales volumes. Cash cost of sales per short ton FOB port was approximately $112 in the first quarter of this year compared to $133 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. The decrease was primarily related to the lower variable transportation and royalty costs on lower steelmaking coal prices and tightly managing our overall spending at the mines. We ended the first quarter below the bottom end of our 2025 guidance range for cash cost of sales per short ton.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

This result was primarily due to the lower actual steelmaking coal prices in the first quarter compared to our price assumption for the full year. Our cash cost of production for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was 66% of our total cash cost per short ton compared to 61% in the same quarter last year. Overall, transportation royalty costs were 34 percent of our cash cost of sales per short ton in the first quarter of this year, a lower average net selling prices compared to 39% in the same quarter last year. As a result of the lower average net selling price, our cash margin per short ton was $23 in the first quarter of this year compared to $100 in the same quarter of last year. SG and A expenses were about $18,000,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty five and were slightly lower than the first quarter of last year.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

This was primarily due to a decrease in employee related stock compensation expenses. Depreciation and depletion expenses were $45,000,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty five and were higher than last year, primarily due to the additional assets placed into service at Blue Creek. Our net interest income earned from cash investments was lower in the first quarter this year due to lower average cash balances and lower rates of return. Our effective income tax rate for the first quarter was approximately 42% because of the pre tax loss. Turning to cash flow.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, free cash flow was a negative $68,000,000 This was a result of cash flows generated by operating activities of $11,000,000 thus cash used for capital expenditures and mine development of $79,000,000 Excluding the investment in developing Blue Creek of $66,000,000 during the first quarter of twenty twenty five, free cash flow was nearly breakeven. Our total available liquidity at the end of the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $617,000,000 and consisted of cash and cash equivalents of $455,000,000 short and long term investments of $48,000,000 and $114,000,000 available under our ABL facility. Now let's turn to our outlook and guidance for the full year 2025. We expect the weak market conditions we have seen over the last few quarters could persist for a prolonged period and could continue to put downward pressure on steelmaking coal prices. In addition, any new tariffs or trade wars could put additional pressure on seaborne pricing.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Despite these expected market conditions, we have a favorable operational performance outlook for 2025 and anticipate both higher sales and production volumes. We expect the demand from our contracted customers to remain stable, while we also expect spot demand to continue to be stronger in the Pacific Basin compared to our traditional markets in The Atlantic. We will continue to pursue our successful strategy of focusing on contracted customers with value added spot activity. We are entering 2025 with a stronger contracted volume of approximately 85% to spot volume of 15%. With this context, we are keeping our initial 2025 guidance unchanged until there is additional clarity on the impact of the recent trade and tariff policy announcements.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

At this time, it's extremely difficult to estimate the impact of these recent policy decisions on our business due to the uncertainty and market volatility. We expect to provide further updates to our financial outlook in connection with our second quarter earnings call to be held in early August twenty twenty five. I'll now turn it back to Walt for his final comments.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Thanks Dale. As we look forward, we believe the global steel market will continue to face challenges for the rest of the year due to China's overcapacity and the uncertainty caused by recent changes in trade and tariff policies. However, we expect some of these headwinds to be balanced with an increase in steelmaking coal demand from India during the year as new steel production is commissioned. We also expect the recent mining events to cause temporary tightness in the steelmaking coal availability, which could lead to slightly higher prices compared to the previous quarter. But until there's a meaningful change in the global steel market fundamentals, it is unlikely that steelmaking coal prices will return to the previous levels.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

While we recognize that we're operating in an uncertain environment, our world class asset base, highly flexible cost structure and a high performing workforce will allow us to navigate successfully through the remainder of this year and beyond. With that, we'd like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Katya Jantzik with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Katja Jancic
Katja Jancic
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Hi, thank you for taking my questions. Maybe starting on the pricing side, I think Walt you mentioned that price realization could stay below the 85%. So given the current market environment, is it fair to still assume somewhere between 80% to 85%? Or how should we think about it?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

I think that's reasonable. We're still hopeful it will be above that, but I think that's reasonable, 80% to 85%.

Katja Jancic
Katja Jancic
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

And then in this environment given how good your costs were this quarter, is this is the $120 per ton something we should be considering in the near term? Or what are some of the moving pieces there?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Hi, Katya. It's Dale. Well, as far as the low end of the range, that was because the prices that average, what they did in the quarter was much lower than our assumption for the year. So it really depends on where prices go the remainder of the year. We've seen them bounce up a little bit here in the last couple of weeks.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

So it's really going to be price dependent because our transportation royalties are variable. So prices continue to go down from here. We could see some more improvement as well as our management of our cost as well. But if prices met coal prices rise, we'll see a rise in our variable cost as well. So sorry, I can't give you a really good example unless you can give me an exact met coal price for the year.

Katja Jancic
Katja Jancic
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Yes. More I was more thinking about near term, right? If prices stay at these levels in 2Q, I assume that this cost level would still be sustainable. Is that fair?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Yes, it's fair. Yes.

Katja Jancic
Katja Jancic
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

One more if I may. If I'm not mistaken, your longwall shields are imported from Europe. Are you based on the current situation, are you responsible for the 10% tariffs that are in place?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

With those shields, with the when they'll all be delivered, we will not incur any tariff impacts on those shields.

Katja Jancic
Katja Jancic
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Perfect. Thank you.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nick Giles with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. My first question was just back on the realizations. You listed a number of factors that drove things lower. I was wondering if you could add some color around that.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

I mean, we think about transportation differentials and higher sales to Asia some of the biggest drivers or any color you could add around the type of discounts that U. S. Producers are ultimately taking to send tons to Asia? Thank you very much.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Yes. Thanks, Nick. Yes, those factors are what drove it and it really depends on where we sell our volumes into Asia, right. So the transportation we saw last year rates as high as $50.55 dollars a ton. We're more in that mid-30s now.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

So it's come down quite substantially over time. But with the trade and tariff noise, those rates have started to rise recently, given potential with the landed vessel charge that was talked about there for a while. So those are the things that kind of drive those things as well as the difference between the relativity between the PLV and the High Vol A that prices off of Platts. So those are really the biggest factors.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

Got it. Thanks for that, Dale. Maybe just back to the shipment side. I mean shipments were higher than expected based on the midpoint of your guidance and when taking into account Blue Creek volumes in the second half. So curious how we should think about volumes in the second quarter.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

Is it fair to assume that they could step down?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Well, if you look at our historical what we sell in the second half of the year, the fourth quarter is very light. So I'm not going to give guidance on the second quarter, just to say that look for the year within our range, we're 85% contracted for the year. Volumes can shift between quarters if a customer calls and all of a sudden moves a vessel that's supposed to ship the last day, moves it two days into the next quarter, that happens. So we read too much into the difference between the quarters. We're really focused on the year.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

Hey, fair enough. And one more if I could. There's obviously been a lot of pain out there in The U. S. Met markets.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

So I was wondering if you could comment on the overall production outlook. Do you have any rough estimate for how much production could have come offline during this period? And what level of U. S. Production is ultimately at risk?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

I think that's really difficult to say because even today we're hearing more rumors of different things going on in different operations. We know where we sit on the cost curve and we know there's a lot of pain being incurred right now throughout the industry. So I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see some curtailments, but sometimes those take a little time.

Nick Giles
Senior Research Analyst at B.Riley Securities

Fair enough. Well, I want to commend you on your ability to navigate these tough markets. So keep up the good work.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from George Eady with UBS. Please go ahead.

George Eadie
George Eadie
Equity Analyst at UBS Group

Yes. Hi, Walt and Dale. Hope you're both well. My first question is on Blue Creek and the remaining $220,000,000 to $300,000,000 CapEx. Could you maybe just clarify what it is specifically or at least what the big parts are and when it will be spent over the next twelve months?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Go ahead, Dale.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Yes. So a lot of this is final construction, right? So labor, a lot of things like that. The majority of the large purchases of steel equipment, I would say we have the majority of that already on hand. So this is really finishing out the project.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

So if you look at our estimate was $225,000,000 to $250,000,000 for this year. So that's what we look to spend this year and the $55,000,000 in the first quarter is right on target with that. So then it steps down significantly in 2026.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

It's the build out of those other two modules we talked about with the prep plant, the labor to do that. It's the overlay and belt finishing construction of that, which is to come online in the fourth quarter. Plus we continue to work on the barge load out. So those are the three big when Dale talked about the labor, those are the three big buckets of the project that are continuing throughout this year.

George Eadie
George Eadie
Equity Analyst at UBS Group

Yes, that's good. Thanks for clarifying that. And maybe the working cap, so $32,000,000 build this quarter, Is that mostly attributable to Blue Creek? And how should we maybe think about that over coming quarters? Will we see a similar trend potentially, Dale?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Yes. As we mentioned, we did start washing some of the Blue Creek coal and our inventory has been building from the production there. So as we start to wash that coal and get it delivered to the port and then sold, we'll start to turn some of that working capital in the second half. So I would imagine you're going to see over the second and early third quarter, you're to see a working capital build and then we'll start to see some improvement in the second half late.

George Eadie
George Eadie
Equity Analyst at UBS Group

Yes. Okay. Thanks very much. And then just last one, guidance, what met coal price was that based off?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

It's based on $200 and that's metric. So whatever that is $185 ish?

George Eadie
George Eadie
Equity Analyst at UBS Group

Yes. Perfect. Thank you. Thanks guys. Thanks a lot.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Nathan Martin with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Maybe first a clarification question. I might have heard this incorrectly, but I think you mentioned you price your high vol A product off the Platts U. S.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

Low vol HCC index, not The U. S. High Vol A. Did I hear that correctly?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

You did. And how it gets priced depends on where the customer is. So it varies. But yes, that's correct.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

Okay. Got it. As we've seen, I guess, Aussie POV price has increased some which is positive, but those U. S. Prices have not quite kept pace and that discount spread has widened as you guys also called out.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

So interested to get your thoughts on the published U. S. Prices, if you think those are reflective of the current market? And do you think this discount can tighten up?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

Over time, I expect the discount to tighten up. I can't tell you how or when that will happen, especially when you look at some of the operations that are having production issues this year and some of the tons that I think are under quite a bit more cost pressure right now. So I would expect it to tighten up. I don't know how quickly and how much, but that would be my expectation over time.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

And then Walt, do you just do you see that what you're hearing from customers is kind of reflective of that index that Platts publishes? Or are there any discounts or premiums for that matter?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

I think it's pretty much reflective of what the pricing is.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

Okay. Got it. Appreciate that. And then good to hear, Ari, the rail loadout and the prep plant at Module A being completed early. As you guys begin to start trucking that Blue Creek coal over to the loadout and shipping it, And how should we think about the impact on cost per ton of the operations?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Nate, this is Dale. That won't have a dramatic impact because the volume this year is small compared to the run rate volume. So it will have some benefit, but it won't stand out this year like it will starting next year.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

Okay. Dale, yes, was just thinking it might actually be a little bit of a drag or drive cost higher just because I would assume transportation costs would be a little bit higher from trucking. Is that not the case though?

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

Won't look that the cost is going to be great coming out of Blue Creek, but the additional trucking for a short, short period of time shouldn't add any significant material cost to that. And we're really focused on the cost right now and all the items that we have control over. So to the extent we can mitigate that, so there's really no impact, we'll do that.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

That makes sense. And then as you just mentioned, Dale, hoping to get maybe some more of your thoughts around what meaningful levers you could use to trim or defer some CapEx if need be during this persistently weak market?

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

I think what we're doing is we are squeezing our existing operations pretty hard and making sure we're only spending on things that we absolutely have to have in the short term and we'll continue to do that. And we're constantly looking for every nickel and dime we can save in this type of a situation. And when we we've kind of tried to design ourselves for this type of situation so that we're able to respond and thrive in this kind of a market as well as the upper end. So we're pulling the levers we need to pull.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

And we have the added Look, we have over $500,000,000 of cash sitting on the balance sheet. So as one brought up earlier, have a maximum amount of 300,000,000 left to spend. So that still leaves you with another $200,000,000 of cash if you need it for other things in a worst case.

Nathan Martin
Senior Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC

Got it. Very helpful. I'll leave it there guys. Appreciate the time and best of luck.

Dale Boyles
Dale Boyles
CFO at Warrior Met Coal

You. Thank you.

Operator

At this time, there are no further questions. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Scheller for any comments.

Walter Scheller
Walter Scheller
CEO at Warrior Met Coal

That concludes our call this afternoon. Thank you again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Warrior.

Operator

Thank you. And that concludes our conference for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.

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