NYSE:HL Hecla Mining Q1 2025 Earnings Report $5.11 +0.17 (+3.44%) As of 05/20/2025 03:58 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Hecla Mining EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.04Consensus EPS $0.05Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPS-$0.01Hecla Mining Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$261.34 millionExpected Revenue$238.50 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$22.84 millionYoY Revenue Growth+37.90%Hecla Mining Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/1/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, May 2, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsHecla Mining's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, August 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, August 6, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Hecla Mining Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 2, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing My name is Bailey, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q1 twenty twenty five Hecla Mining Company Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Parkin, Vice President, Strategy and Investor Relations. Operator00:00:38You may begin. Mike ParkinVP - Strategy & IR at Hecla Mining Company00:00:41Good morning, and thank you all for joining us for HECLAS first quarter twenty twenty five results conference call. I am Mike Parkin, Vice President, Strategy and Investor Relations. Our earnings release that was issued yesterday along with today's presentation are available on our website. On the call today is Rob Prichmerov, President and Chief Executive Officer Russell Waller, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Carlos Aguilar, Senior Vice President and Chief Operations Officer Kurt Allen, Vice President of Exploration Anvita Patel, HECLAS Vice President and Treasurer and my predecessor as well as Matt Blaitman, Vice President, Technical Services. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will all be available to answer questions. Mike ParkinVP - Strategy & IR at Hecla Mining Company00:01:27Turning to Slide two. Any forward looking statements made today by the management team come under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act and involve risks as shown on Slide two, in our earnings release and in our 10 Q filings with the SEC. These and other risks could cause results to differ from those projected in the forward looking statements. Non GAAP measures cited in this call and related slides are reconciled in the slides or news release. I will now pass the call over to Rob. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:01:58Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Before we get started, I just want to take a moment to thank Andhita for her exceptional leadership and dedication over the last couple of years. Her willingness to shoulder the responsibilities of both Treasury and Investor Relations during a time of significant transition for the company has been nothing short of remarkable. And as you now transition back to focusing on your role solely as Treasurer and help Mike assume his new Investor Relations responsibilities, I want you to know that your contributions haven't gone unnoticed, so thank you, Ambita, from myself and on behalf of the senior management and the Board. Turning to Slide three, I've completed my first six months with the company and I've done visits to all of our operating mines and initiated a comprehensive review of our extensive exploration portfolio. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:02:48And I have to say that with each passing month, as I deepen my understanding of both our mineral assets and our talented employees, my confidence in Hecla's promising future continues to strengthen. So let me now share our forward strategy built on four key pillars, all grounded in ESG leadership. First, we're intensely focused on operational excellence and reinvigorating a continuous improvement program and culture at each site. We're standardizing systems across all mines to ensure consistent performance. Our investments in analytics and semi automation will improve real time decision making, and we're controlling costs aggressively while enhancing production through optimizing extraction methods, reduced dilution and better ventilation. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:03:37On the maintenance front, we're shifting to a more proactive approach with preventative programs that catch issues before they become costly problems. And we've identified critical parts that impact production and implemented a tracking system to ensure availability when needed. We're also investing in our workforce through targeted training and leadership development. Second, we're optimizing our portfolio for maximum returns. While our Casa Berardi assessment continues, we're evaluating our exploration assets to unlock hidden value. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:04:09Keno Hill remains our top priority for organic growth, but we're also developing a disciplined acquisition strategy aligned with our core strengths. Third, we've implemented rigorous financial discipline with a structured capital allocation framework focused on free cash flow and clear return on investment targets. And this approach prioritizes balance sheet strength, financial flexibility and reliable shareholder returns. Fourth, we remain committed to silver market leadership. As the largest producer in both The United States and Canada, we're uniquely positioned with long lived mines in top tier jurisdictions that provide regulatory stability and support responsible development. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:04:51Underpinning everything is our commitment to environmental stewardship, community partnerships and strengthened relationships with First Nations and all stakeholders, ensuring that we lead in ESG practices across the mining sector. As we turn to Slide four, let me highlight our achievements for the first quarter. Our operations delivered a strong quarter producing 4,100,000 ounces of silver and more than 34,000 ounces of gold, as well as robust volumes of lead and zinc and some copper positioning us well against our annual guidance. I'll highlight two notable achievements. So Lucky Friday set a consecutive quarterly milling record demonstrating exceptional consistency that Lucky Friday brings to our portfolio. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:05:35Meanwhile, Keno Hill produced nearly 800,000 ounces and delivered its first profitable quarter under Heckler's ownership. I'll discuss exploration later in the call, but I'm excited about the surface exploration programs we've initiated in Nevada. Additionally, our Libbey exploration project in Montana recently secured placement on the Federal Permitting Improvement Steering Council's FAST 41 permitting dashboard and that's a significant milestone that can streamline federal approvals and enhance coordination across agencies. Our exploration team has identified new geological concepts that warrant further investigation and the FAST 41 designation really provides a structured framework for advancing these studies. As with all capital allocation decisions, we remain committed to our disciplined investment criteria and we'll continue methodical assessment of this asset's potential to deliver value to our shareholders. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:06:28From a financial perspective, we delivered record quarterly revenues and adjusted EBITDA exceeding $90,000,000 driven by higher metal prices and solid contributions from all four operating mines. Our cornerstone assets, Greens Creek and Lucky Friday, continue to generate robust free cash flow of more than $40,000,000 during the quarter. We're maintaining our production and capital investment guidance for the year with some adjustments to individual asset cost projections that Carlos will speak in detail in a little while. Importantly, our consolidated silver cash costs and all in sustaining cost guidance on a per ounce basis remains unchanged, demonstrating the advantage of our diversified portfolio approach. And I will now hand the call to Russell for a detailed financial review. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:07:17Thank you, Rob. I'll start on Slide six. We make our capital allocation decisions with a long term view and strategy in mind. As I reflect on the financial position of the company one year ago, we reported a net leverage ratio of 2.7 times, and our net cash balance was negative $60,000,000 1 year later, I'm happy to report that we've improved the net leverage ratio more than one turn down to 1.5 times and improved the cash position of the company substantially with an effective balance of approximately $20,000,000 at the end of the quarter. I'll speak more about the details of the quarterly cash flow momentarily. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:07:49This improvement came from many sources, including better prices for both gold and silver, production from Lucky Friday for the past twelve months and other capital allocation decisions such as eliminating the Silverlink dividend. During this time, we also continued our investment in the Keno Hill mine as we see this as our food for growth project, which meets our return on investment criteria. We've made progress on these initiatives. And as we look ahead, our plan is to implement strict return on capital criteria on our investments, ensuring stewardship of our investors' money with the intention of seeing improved consistency in our financial results and improved performance. Our plan remains to delever the balance sheet, looking to improve both our net leverage ratio and also the outflow of interest expense. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:08:31At Casa Berardi, we are still determining the best path forward there where our strategic review options include the outright disposal, a joint venture to spin out, the potential of extending the underground or accelerating future cash flows to take advantage of the current record gold prices via prepayment or other financing arrangement or some combination of these alternatives. And in any scenario, we continue to see potential opportunities to maximize the value of this asset. Looking at the graph on the right hand side of slide six, we see Greens Creek and Lucky Friday continued their strong free cash flow generation with $42,000,000 generated during the quarter. Where on a consolidated basis, our free cash flow is negative $18,000,000 However, if you look closer to the details, you'll see an inventory build of $12,000,000 and an increase in accounts receivable of $29,000,000 These negative working capital adjustments were due to a few factors, but generally because our production improved toward the end of the quarter, which did not allow us to either sell all of the inventory on hand or collect some of the funds for those sales for the products sold. Additionally, we had working capital outflow of approximately $16,000,000 for accounts payable and other current liabilities, which is primarily the interest on our notes, which we pay each February and August, along with incentive compensation payments and some other outflows for payables. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:09:47Although we see negative working capital in the first quarter, I expect to see some of these items will turn in the next quarter as we sell the inventory that was built up for collect receivables, setting us up for a strong Q2. Turning to Slide seven, we generated record revenue of $261,000,000 during the quarter with 45% of our revenue from silver, gold at 33% as we benefited from the improved gold price and base metals coming in at around 22%. With silver prices increasing, our silver margins improved from 54% in 2024 to 65% this quarter. This record revenue and margin expansion at our silver operations also provided for record adjusted EBITDA, which helped improve the net leverage ratio from 1.6 times at the end of last year to 1.5 times at the end of this quarter. I'll now pass the call to Carlos for a more detailed review of the performance of our operations. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:10:35Thank you, Russell. I'll start on Slide nine. Greens Creek continued to demonstrate its consistency as a stable cash flow generator and producer. The mine produced 2,000,000 ounces of silver in the first quarter, driven by 10% increase in the silver grade made from the last quarter. The grade improved throughout the quarter to approximately 13 ounce per ton in March and remained strong entering the second quarter. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:11:01Backfill and development activities also continued to improve throughout the quarter, which helped with the delivery of high grade tons to the mill. Negative cash costs of $4.08 per ounce and negative all in sustainable cost, AESIG of $03 per silver ounce were significantly better than annual guidance. High impact product credits reduced costs, partially offset by increased fuel purchases due to the need for more site power generation than planned in the quarter. Capital investment in Grains Creek totaled $10,800,000 which is expected to rise in the next two quarters due to the construction season ramping up activities, a common theme across our producing portfolio as well as our exploration assets. Production guidance for 2025 at Greens Creek is maintaining at 8,100,000 to 8,800,000 ounces of silver. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:11:56We are lowering Grins Creek cost guidance significantly, primarily attributable to a strong gold by product credits in the first quarter with cash cost guidance reduced to $0.25 to $0.75 per ounce from the prior $2.5 range. And AC guidance lowered to $6.5 to $7.25 from $8.75 to $9.5 per ounce. Capital investment guidance is unchanged at 48,000,000 to $51,000,000 in sustaining capital and 10,000,000 to $12,000,000 in growth capital. Moving to Slide 12, Lucky Friday continues to demonstrate operational excellence, achieving a constituted quarterly million record of almost 109,000 tons, surpassing our previous record in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. The mine delivered consistent silver production of 1,300,000 ounces in the first quarter, maintaining its position as a core production asset. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:13:02While production remains strong, we experienced cost pressures during the quarter with cash costs at $9.37 per ounce and AISC of $20.08 per ounce after byproduct credits, primarily due to higher labor costs, profit sharing, consumables and contractor costs. In response, we implemented cost control initiatives aiming to reduce reliance on high cost contractors. Free cash flow generation in the first quarter was $8,400,000 negatively impacted by working capital change and the higher operating cost versus the prior quarter. We are maintaining our 2025 production guidance of 4,700,000 to 5,100,000 silver ounces while adjusting our cost projections to reflect current realities. Looking ahead, we anticipate capital investment to increase in the next two quarters as warmer weather supports our seasonal construction activities. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:14:00Our focus remains on balancing operational consistency with disciplined cost management to maximize Lucky Friday long term value contribution to our portfolio. Turning to Slide 11, Inno Hills produced over 770,000 ounces of silver. During the quarter, the throughput averaged three fifty tons per day remaining below the permitted limit of four forty tons per day. We noted in February, our power supplier for Keno Hill, Ducon Energy Corporation suffered a failure in its power generation to begin in October of last year at at the hydropower power plant in Whitehorse, which is not scheduled to be repaired until August of this year. Despite these and other challenge, InnoHill delivered its first profitable quarter under Hecla ownership with $1,000,000 in gross profit, which resulted in no cost being transferred to ramp up and substation cost. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:15:02Work continues to bring the asset into a state of sustainable, profitable production when the mill has proven to be capable of operating our permitting capacity of four forty tons per day, our mining rates have lagged. To improve our mining rates and put the mine on pad towards achieving its current permitting capacity of four forty tons per day, we must advance permits and successfully continue to improve development of the deposits and execute critical infrastructure projects, which include dry stack tailings, cementing tailings backfill plant and water treatment plant upgrades. Long term profitability and conservative metal price assumptions will require throughput rates of approximately 500 to 600 tons per day due to Hema Hill high fixed costs. These will require new permits, additional infrastructure investment and execution of significant capital plans and mine development. Beyond technical execution, our success also depends on continuing to strain our partnership with First Nation and the Juukan government as a responsible long term partner. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:16:18In 2025, we are reiterating our guidance for Quina Hill expecting silver production of 2,700,000 to 3,100,000 ounces and quarterly production cost of 15,000,000 to 17,000,000. Turning to Slide 12, Casa Berardi produced about 20,500 ounces of gold during the quarter at cash cost and AZIC of $2,195 and $2,303 per ounce respectively. In the second half of twenty twenty five, the 160 Pit is expected to demonstrate improved economics and generate a stronger cash flow and the strip ratio decreased and reliance in contractors eases, with improvement to be achieved late in the third quarter. Currently, there is no change to the Casa Verada production guidance of 76,000 to 82,000 ounces of gold production in 2025. Cash cost guidance and AC guidance isn't changed despite the first quarter cash cost and AC coming in above the full year guidance range on a pro rata basis as they are in line with the company's expectation and truly improving the second half of the year. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:17:31I'll now hand the call over to Rob to discuss exploration initiatives in Nevada that are ramping up this month. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:17:38Thank you, Carlos. As I deepen my understanding of our exploration portfolio, I'm particularly excited about our Nevada assets. We're investing over $3,300,000 this year in a targeted exploration program at our high grade properties with two drill rigs now deploying at Midas. Our Nevada strategy centers on a hub and spoke approach, leveraging existing infrastructure across high grade historical districts. And Midas stands out with its impressive production history of 2,200,000 ounces of gold and 27,000,000 ounces of silver at exceptional grades. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:18:12This 30,000 acre property features an extensive alteration footprint, suggesting significant potential for new vein discoveries supported by an existing mill and tailings facility that really could become our Northern Nevada hub. Just 15 miles to the Southeast, Hollister offers complementary potential as North America's Third highest grade underground gold mine, with production grades averaging 0.8 ounces per tonne gold. The Hatter Graben resource area already contains a gold and silver resource with geological evidence indicating a fully preserved epithermal system likely holding its best mineralization at depth. And these strategic assets combined with our systematic exploration approach represents a compelling opportunity to create meaningful shareholder value through resource expansion and potential future production. Moving to Slide 14, I'll close by reviewing our key deliverables for 2025. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:19:11To position Hecla for sustainable growth and shareholder returns, we remain committed to our strategic priorities. At Kino Hill, we anticipate unlocking long term value through disciplined permitting processes and execution excellence and moving this high grade asset down the path towards reaching its transformative potential. Concurrently, we're implementing a robust capital allocation framework that prioritizes high return investments, while maintaining operational efficiency and our commitment to safety and environment. Our focus on generating strong free cash flow fits well with our deleveraging initiatives and offers opportunity to strengthen our balance sheet and enhance financial flexibility. Finally, we continue to look to optimize our portfolio through rationalization efforts at Casa Berardi and are actively evaluating strategic initiatives that align with our core competencies and value creation objectives. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:20:09We expect that by coordinating these actions, we can maintain operational excellence and achieve financial strength and sustainable growth for years to come. And so with that operator, I'd like to open the call to questions. Operator00:20:24We will take your first question from the line of Heiko Ehle with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:20:40Hey, it's Heiko from Wainwright. I assume you can hear me okay? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:20:44We can. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:20:46Perfect. Good morning. You have a pretty diverse operational asset base across borders. Just out of curiosity with all the recent talk about tariffs, I mean, can't open a newspaper without reading about it and just international trade facing a variety of arguably soft cost headwinds. Have there been any components or inputs or parts or anything that has been delayed? Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:21:11Anything in particular where you've seen an outsized impact on pricing or availability anywhere across your mind? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:21:21Thanks for your question. I'll let Russell answer that one. But just bear in mind that roughly 50% of our costs are in labor. There will be some minor impacts on consumables and other things. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:21:36That's right. Excuse me. Thanks, Rob. And thanks for the question, Heiko. Yeah. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:21:41As we think about, the business, we've really got the the items that we purchased and then the the things that we sell. Right? So as we think about, the things that we purchase, we do anticipate seeing higher costs for things like rebar and steel and those types of things just because the tariffs will hit that type of industry maybe more directly than others. We haven't necessarily seen any or or lack of being able to get parts and and things like that. Part of that is because we do try to look ahead and and, you know, as as tariffs were being announced and and even talked about months ago, we tried to be proactive and make sure that we had things, you know, parts stocked. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:22:21As I think more specifically about the parts that we do buy, most of the things we buy, we buy at each operation in that country. And so I think that any tariffs on that in that regard would be kind of indirect where maybe you buy a part from a supplier that's manufactured in their, plant in, say, Mexico or something like that. But, you know, currently, right now, you know, Mexico, Canada, United States, parts sourced out of those are are are generally exempt. So we that's okay. And as we think about parts that we get from China, there's not much. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:22:55I keep grinding balls and things like that. But, frankly, we've been we have a a kind of long long lead time supply on those. So we've we've got a lot of those in stock. We haven't been hit directly yet. The other on the other side of the equation is what we sell, which is our concentrates. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:23:10We we export all of our concentrates essentially. Some of those concentrates get exported from The United States to Canada, and then some go either from Canada or The United States to Asia. And and some of those concentrates, frankly, do go to China. The contracting strategy that we've had currently has really insulated us from any direct impact of those tariffs going into China. But I would expect in 2026, we may see the impact of tariffs. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:23:39And what we'll see there, I think, is more we'll see the cost to place that at a western smelter might go up versus smelter in China, but I don't expect any risk of us not being able to place concentrate. Does that does that answer your question fully, Heiko? Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:23:56It it does. I mean, I yeah. It does. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:23:58Yeah. I mean, I've been in this industry long enough to remember the days when, you know, it was impossible to get, tires for trucks. So it this the stuff still sits freshly on my mind, I guess. Completely different follow-up question. You mentioned the Yukon Energy Corporation repair for the turbine failure that's going to be happening in August. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:24:19Obviously, early for this question, but is the site going to be down altogether when that happens? And if so, how long do you think this will halt the operations? And again, it's a little early for this one. Any way you can quantify your best guess as to the financial impact as well? Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:24:41The projection for the repairs of the turbine expected to be in the month of August, and it's gonna last six days. So we are planning to advance yeah. Six days. Six days. And and and in our projections, we included that downtime. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:24:58Right? And and we are we are on a schedule to advance some of the maintenance projects during that period of time with the with the some restriction in the in the power source. But there are plenty of projects that can be, you know, advanced during that period of time. The and, of course, the economic impact of those days right now are estimated at the laying 90,000 ounces of silver and of course with some labor costs associated with that. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:25:33So we're in regular dialogue with Yukon Power. We know it's coming. We've planned for it and we're ready. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:25:42Perfect. That's good to hear. I'll get back in queue and give other people a chance. Thank Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:25:47you. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:25:48Thank you. Operator00:25:50Your next question comes from the line of Dalton Baretto with Canaccord. Your line is open. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:25:57Thanks, operator. Good morning, Rob and team. Thanks for taking my questions. I want to stay on keynote here. It seems to me that the language used in your outlook for keynote has gotten significantly more uncertain, let's call it. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:26:12I'm just trying to get some context around it. I'm specifically trying to understand, like if you got the permits tomorrow and you had community support, how much capital and time would it require to get that operation sustainably, the 600 tonnes per day? And then on the flip side, what sort of metal prices would you need to see in order to sort of curtail production while you do these projects? You. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:26:36Morning, Dalton, and thanks for your question. Our messaging at Keynote is really about it's an evolving work in progress. There's no doubt that we underestimated some things like costs, and obviously, we've had some unforeseen events like the neighboring heap leach that basically put permitting on hold. But having said that, I think we've made some real progress there building on what we accomplished last year. So we fixed the crushing system that was really slowing us down. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:27:07We got all the permits for expanding our tailings facility, which was crucial. And I think the big win for us was really running the mill for extended periods of time and consistently hitting about 400 tonnes per day, and that was over several So that really proves that our processing works our processing setup works and that's kind of huge for our next steps. And going forward, really, we need to get our mining rate in sync with what our mill can handle and we're going to do this by gradually ramping up both the Bermingham and Flame And Moth deposits. We know we need permits for this, so we've recently welcomed a highly experienced sustainability executive, Patrick Malone, with decades of permitting experience, who's already begun building a specialized team. We're also strengthening our technical capabilities to make sure that we get those permit applications right. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:27:59And I have to say our collaborative engagement with the First Nations has increased as well. So let me just recap. So we're focusing on expanding our water treatment plant, adding waste storage, enhancing our tailings facilities. We're also starting construction on tailings batch fuel plant and that's going to improve both productivity and safety. The waste and tailings storage, that is going to reach capacity by 2028. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:28:24So getting those permits, it's really time sensitive and so we're also working on increasing our capacity to house more workers as we scale up. I should also mention that we've done a thorough assessment of what care and maintenance would look like. That's just good planning. And we still believe that advancing Kenahue will make strategic sense, even though I can't tell you exactly when it's going to hit our profitability targets. Reaching 600 tonnes per day, that is going to take a few years to get there. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:29:00First, we need to sustainably mine at 400 tonnes per day. I'm talking metric tons here. And match that to the mill's capacity. Anything you want to add, Carlos? Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:29:12Yes. This is still work in progress, permitting. You mentioned tailings capacity. And of course, we are really excited this year to start the construction of the backfill plant, which is going to change and it's going to improve safety and productivity in the near future. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:29:33So our understanding of that ore body, it keeps improving. And with each milestone, it brings us really closer to unlocking the real value of this Silver District, which we're quite excited about. So it's still a work in progress. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:29:47Got it. Thank you for all that color, Rob. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:29:50If I can switch gears You kinda you kinda mentioned you mentioned cost as well, and and I would say that, you know, we've invested quite a bit of of capital in Keno Hill over the the past few years, obviously. We've we've all seen that. I I think that, you know, you look at the performance that we've seen over the past few years, we have seen improved or more consistent performance. We need to improve that. We'll we'll continue to make these investments. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:30:14You know, Carlos and and Rob both mentioned the tailings batch fill plant, and and that should help us, you know, improve the the rate that we can extract from the mine. Because right now, you know, in the past, frankly, it used to be that the mill wasn't able to keep up, and now the the mine isn't able to keep up with the mill. So we just keep keep hitting those, those bottlenecks. And so so we think about that. We will see capital continue into the future over the next few years as we do those types of projects, these infrastructure projects, improve the development developed state of the mine. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:30:44But we should see that tail off as we as we kinda get further out into the future. Yeah. And keep in mind as well, we do have investment criteria that we are looking at and evaluating, and and Keno Hill continues to meet that, but we have to execute on these plans. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:31:02Understood. Thank you for that, Raj. And if I my follow-up, Raj, if I can direct that one to you as well. I appreciate your comments in terms of placing the Greens Creek concentrate and sort of finding an alternative to China. But in the March 20 executive order, one of the things that order talks about having the Commerce Department look into, in addition to export tariffs on critical minerals, is also an export tax. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:31:29And I'm wondering if that goes into play, what options do you have for placing green screen concentrate? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:31:38Frankly, Dalton, I'll have to get back to you on that There's been various things that we've looked at, but I can't say that I have that on my radar, and I apologize for that. Operator00:31:56Your next question comes from the line of Michael Ciperco with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:32:04Thanks very much and thanks for taking my question. Maybe a couple on the growth outlook. And Rob, you talked about Nevada and what you're seeing there. I guess, can you give us a little bit more color about maybe how you see that in the context of the portfolio? I know it's early. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:32:26And maybe how what we should be expecting in terms of a timeline for either a study or an update on what you see in terms of the potential in Nevada? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:32:41Sure. Good morning, Michael. I'm going to hand you over to Kurt. But I have to say, I was out there about a month ago and we have this permitted unused mill. We have tailing storage capacity. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:32:53And so really our approach is this hub and spoke model. Right now, what we need to do is build up a critical amount of resources and then relook at a path forward. Kirk, could you add some more color, please? Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:33:09Yes. Thanks, Michael. The program that we have at Midas this year, we're going to have two drill rigs. We've got about seven targets, and these are all high grade vein targets. We're thinking that we've kind of figured out the structural regime on the east part of the property there. Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:33:29These are early stage drill holes. It's going to tell us a lot, but we're focused on trying to identify the high grade portions of those veins. And I think it's going to be similar size our potential is similar size to what was mined in the past. Now Aurora is another project that we're currently in the permitting process. So we're doing a five year expiration EA there. Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:33:53We should have that by the end of the year, and that's going to open up the entire district there for expiration. So we're kind of waiting on that EA at Aurora. And then Hollister, in my years of experience, is probably one of the largest surface expressions of an epithermal system. And we've got several targets there. We're not going to drill there this year. Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:34:14We're hoping to be able to do that next year. But I think within a couple, two, three years, four years, depending on the results from this year and next year's programs, I think we'll be on to something and move those projects forward. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:34:30Thanks, Kurt. One of the most striking things when I was on-site, to Kurt's point, what defines a mineral system or the limits of the mineral system is how altered the rocks are. That shows you that fluids have been going through it. And so when I was on-site, you stand on really intense alteration that Curt was talking about, and it's probably a couple of kilometers away from where all the pretty much all the previous historic mining and development and exploration has been focused. So that playground, it's huge. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:35:00And so that's what's really got me excited. I think there's an opportunity in where all the work has previously been focused around existing operations and really not that much outside of it. Sorry, I cut you off, Michael. Go ahead. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:35:14No, that's good color. So I I suppose I'm I'm looking to understand and maybe lost track a little bit of of where exactly you you were in the advancement in Nevada. Like, is it fair to say that, in an optimistic scenario, we'd be talking about a potential production scenario, let's say, four or five years down the road? Is that the kind of time frame that you might have in mind if everything works out? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:35:43That's certainly possible, just given that we have some permanent facilities. We obviously are underinvested in exploration at the moment. And as I said on the last call, that's not through lack of quality targets or opportunities. Just basically our focus on financial discipline. And as our financial situation improves, I do see that we'll be investing a lot more in exploration. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:36:07A lot of it will be focused at Nevada. I think there's some very good potential there. But to your point, four or five years, obviously, we need to we'll probably need some more permits. I don't know how long that's going to take, it's not an unrealistic assumption. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:36:21Okay. And that's actually a perfect segue into my next question, if I could. In terms of your capital allocation priorities, talking about deleveraging, you've talked about potential for additional CapEx at Keno and underfunded exploration, which presumably will go higher as well as whatever other development activities. Can you kind of break that down for us? Like how do you look at organic reinvestment in assets versus your deleveraging efforts? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:36:56Yeah. Good morning, and thanks thanks, Mike. This is is Russell. I'll take that question. It's, you know, it's always a balancing act. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:37:02Right? And and I'll say we're fortunate because we have assets that that do generate a substantial amount of of cash in Lucky Friday and Greens Creek. And as we look at the economics for Casa Berardi, you know, we're going through this the strategic review right now, but we do anticipate the economics of that will improve and provide cash flow as well, especially in today's prices out later this year and into next. And so as we think about that cash flow, there's a balancing act between ensuring that you invest substantial capital into those operations that provide that cash flow, so Lucky Friday, Greens Creek, etcetera, the growth capital at Keno Hill. Because, you know, for Keno Hill to hit those return on invested capital metrics that we've talked about, we need to invest in it. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:37:48So we'll be doing those things while at the same time looking to delever, you know, reduce the interest expense that we're we're paying now. And as we do that, then we anticipate, you know, seeing further cash flows from that. And then, frankly, you know, the the last thing that I haven't talked about is the expiration. So, you know, it is a it is a balancing act between, making sure that we're taking care of all of those, those items kind of all all at the same time in a strategic way. But I would say, you know, as we look out into the future, we anticipate investments as we're planning out our cash flows, right? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:38:22So we're planning those cash flows as it relates to or those investments as it relates to investment in our operating assets or our exploration portfolio. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:38:33Okay, great. That's good color. Thanks very much. I'll pass it on. Operator00:38:39Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Duesome with National Bank. Your line is open. Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:38:45Hi, Rob and team. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just that Lucky Friday, I know the labor costs there have been, one of the main drivers of increasing costs over the last little while. Can you just give some more color what's driving those labor costs higher? Is it just wage inflation? Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:39:04Is there labor tightness that you have to address? So just any color you can provide there. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:39:10I mean, there's two main things there. One is that we have been using contractors and that's something that we've got our focus and attention on to try and minimize the use of high cost contract labor. The other thing is the profit sharing, which is a good problem to have. That means that we're actually generating profits. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:39:30Anything else to add? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:39:32I'll jump in and just to add on to what Rob had said. The performance of Lucky Friday has been actually very strong. So the amount that we do pay under the profit sharing program as well as the and I'm I'm gonna miss the acronym exactly, but the production bonus off there, the bonus that we pay to the workers there, has actually paid out above target based on the performance of Lucky Friday. That's and that that performance on on that bonus is related to production, safety, environmental performance. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:40:03And then there is a cost component there too. But when you take it all in balance, Lucky Friday has frankly outperformed. And as a result, we have seen those additional payments, which which we welcome. Welcome. Those are the good problems to have, like what Rob said. Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:40:18Got Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:40:18it. And then maybe shifting to cash as well. So you left production and cash cost basic guidance unchanged, but there was an increase in the cost of sales, dollars 1,000,000. So just wondering, what are you seeing from the operations to offset that increase in millions cost of sales with unchanged production and cash cost guidance? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:40:42It's it's a good question. Thanks thanks for asking it, Andrew. So keep in mind that cost of sales number is both cash cost and noncash cost, and it's a GAAP number. Whereas the and it's so you know, as we present that number and we present non GAAP numbers, we have to present the closest GAAP number to the non GAAP number, which is cost of sales. And so that's the number that's presented there. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:41:05So it's it's a combination of it's a GAAP number. It's both, noncash and cash cost. But as we as we looked at Casa Berardi and we looked at the performance both in the first quarter and the what we expect for the remainder of the year, and we updated our expectations and our models, really frankly, the model still predicts that will come out within And so therefore, although we did see costs increase as we, have seen the frankly, the stripping is a little bit behind where we expect it to be at this point, we still anticipate coming in under guidance. It'll just cost a little bit more money. Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:41:44Got it. Thanks for that color. I'll jump back in the queue. Operator00:41:49Your next question comes from the line of Nick Giles with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:41:54Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. This is Henry Hurl on for Nick Giles. I wanted to start by asking if there are any updates on a potential sale of Casa? And then have a higher gold prices changed the way that you're approaching this? And then should we also think about any potential proceeds from the sale as earmarked for a debt pay down? Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:42:14Thanks. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:42:17Good morning, Henry. It's not a foregone conclusion that we're going to sell Cussa. What we said was that we're looking at all strategic alternatives and that includes an outright sale. It includes joint venturing, spinning out extending the underground mine, taking advantage of the current high gold prices, whatever. And so that's a work in progress. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:42:37And what I said is that we'd provide an update sometime during Q2. Our work is still underway and we'll report by next quarter, if not sooner. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:42:47As it relates to Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:42:48the proceeds, the way we would look at it is we would use proceeds to delever or we would anticipate doing that. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:42:55So yes, just to cover that off as well. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:42:58All right. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:42:59Yes. Thanks for that. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:43:00And then so how could the permitting timeline impact the strategic alternatives process? And then would you feel that you could get the full value for the asset despite kind of the setback of the permitting? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:43:14I mean, there's no doubt that we have a permitting hiatus ahead of us. Last time we communicated this, we said it was going to take about five years. I don't know if it's going to exactly take five years. I don't know whether there's an opportunity to accelerate it or not, but it's certainly you're going to discount those future cash flows. There's no doubt about that. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:43:34But again, since we started our strategic review, the gold price has moved up significantly. And you know, we're we're we're looking at that through, basically, a refresh lens of a much higher gold price. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:43:49Got it. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:43:50Yeah. Thanks for the comment. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:43:52Essentially, what what we're doing is just looking to see how best we can, you know, daylight as much value from Casa Berardi as possible. And the change in the gold price will play into that. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:44:04Got it. Thanks for the commentary and continue best of luck. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:44:09Thank you, Henry. Operator00:44:11Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Frieger with ROTH Capital Markets. Your line is open. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:44:18Hey, Rob and team. Thanks for taking my questions. Backing up a bit to Kino, Are you guys, I guess, sure that the mine can support an or mining rate of 500 or 600 tons per day? I know it's always been a challenge there to get the mining rate up at the mine underground. Like so what's your level of confidence that even with the permits you could do that in the future? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:44:52I think with the investments that we've spoken about, getting to an increased mining rate, that is clear. I think we can achieve that. Whether it makes economic sense or not, that's another matter. Clearly, a key part of this is getting Flame and Moth production ramped up. We also a critical piece of increasing the production rate is really doing enough development. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:45:18That's really what we have a focus on at the moment to make sure that all of our stopes prepared and sequenced. I've got Matt with us. Matt, is there anything you want add? Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:45:28Yes. Thanks for that, Rob. One of the ones that I would be most focused on is we can ramp up. We can get things going. But at this point, we don't have permits to store all the waste. Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:45:38You know, by accelerating production right now, we then run out of space and putting more pressure on our permitting. So it's a strategic choice at this point to not move things any faster than we've got it already going. So to answer the direct question, we're very confident we can get up to the four forty pretty easily and the 600 will come eventually, but there are other constraints that are limiting our ability to do that right now. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:46:03Okay. Fair enough. And then looking at the cost revisions at Casa and Lucky Friday, obviously, they're reflective of a variety of factors that occurred already in Q1. Like how confident are you guys that the revised number is now correct? And is there a portion of this revision that is related to profit sharing, would in the event gold and silver were to pull back that the cost would also pull back with that? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:46:33Yeah. I would suggest that anytime that we put our guidance out, we're confident in those numbers. Unfortunately, sometimes we do have to revise them. So, you know, we we put the numbers out, and we're confident that we can achieve those or else, you we would put out the numbers that we believe we could achieve. You know, as it relates to profit sharing, yeah, you know, I think that if you did see it pull back, then you could see, you know, lesser costs. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:46:59So I think more important than that would be, us continuing to execute on cost control and replacing contractors with employees and those types of things that are that's more meaningful to the company as a whole. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:47:12Okay. Thanks. My other questions were already touched on. I'll turn it over. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:47:17Thank you. Operator00:47:19Your next question comes from the line of Dalton Baretto with Canaccord. Your line is open. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:47:25Thanks for taking my follow ups guys. Rob, in your prepared remarks, one of the things you mentioned was a disciplined allocation strategy or sorry, acquisition strategy. And I'm wondering if you can wrap some parameters around that for us, anything around jurisdiction, commodity, asset size, stage, anything like that. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:47:47Sure. So when we think about M and A, we need to have some parameters, and this is something that's socialized with the Board as well. And so we need to carefully look at our gold and silver mix. Unique in our space in that we have a great proportion of our revenues come from silver. And so primarily, we want to remain a silver company, and that's really what we're focused on. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:48:15Do we have room for gold? Yes, we probably do. But really, we'd be looking at it exactly the same as we would any other investment. Think the sorry, lost my train of thought here. So with M and A, it's about not reacting to available opportunities and really doing proper and thorough due diligence. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:48:39And then a key part of that is assessing what are the returns and how does that compete with internal growth projects as well. And so M and A is something that we're always looking at, but it will become more of a focus as we delever and as we get into a position of strength. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:02Great. Thanks, Rob. And if I can just ask on Libbey, which I think is a massively underappreciated part of your portfolio right now. I don't think sediment hosted high grade copper deposits really exist anymore. Sandus things on fast track. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:16If permitting goes the way you hope, what's the approach? Are you going to go at it solo? Would you bring in a partner? How would you look at that? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:49:26I think, I mean, this is a material asset for us. You're aware of the inferred resource of about 180,000,000 ounces of silver and about 1,700,000,000 pounds of copper. So we recognize it's significant, but it's also going to come with a very significant capital cost. I don't know what it's going be, but I imagine it's going to be closer to $1,000,000,000 more than anything. And I am interested in perhaps looking at partnering up with perhaps someone who has more of a focus on copper. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:49:56Remember, this is about 0.7% copper grade, which is quite significant. And so if we could partner up with that, that would be something we'd certainly consider because I think the price is large enough to share and that would mean that we could maintain our focus on our core business, which is basically precious metals. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:50:19Thanks, Rob. I don't think you'd find any shortage of interested parties. Thanks for taking my questions. Sure. Operator00:50:27And your final question will come from the line of John Tumazos with John Tumazos Very Independent Research. Your line is open. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:50:35Rob, thank you. Following up on questions with Libby, how fast can Hecla move in sympathy or the fast 41? What are the steps to get it to definitive fees besides the infill drilling of the inferred resource? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:51:00Let me just outline the next So we've obviously got the designation and that's going to enhance that long term potential and make sure that there's a bit more transparency on the process. At the moment, we've got a plant of operations that's under an environmental assessment and that's being reviewed by the U. S. Forestry Service. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:51:22And we expect a decision on that to be issued pretty soon, now actually. And if that's approved and they issue a FONSI, so that's a finding of no significant impact, there's going to be a forty five day objection period and then there's going to be a thirty day period that we could respond to that. And depending on the nature of any objections received by the forestry service, there might be an updated plan of operations and that could be approved in Q3 of twenty twenty five. Once that process is finished, we'll basically have the authority to dewater and rehabilitate an existing 14,000 foot addict, about half of it's underwater. And we need to extend it by about 4,000 feet and do some lateral drifts so that we can do our exploration activities. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:52:10So there's a ton of work that still needs to happen. We do need to reestablish and revalidate the resource and then ultimately produce some sort of an economic study. So it's going to take quite a few years and a considerable amount of effort, but we do recognize the value of this asset in our portfolio. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:52:30Rob, is this plan of operation for exploration as opposed to tonnes per day mining for production? When you get what do you think is the target concept for tonnes per day production? 2,000, 10 thousand, 20 thousand tonnes a day? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:52:55So it's a fairly flat lying ore body, and it will likely be mined by room and pillar. And so don't know, Matt, could you comment what a potential conceptual Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:53:07The previous work that's been done has been targeted at 12,500 tons a day. So it's a relatively large production. It's relatively low grade. I mean, you've got to get the tons up. So you're in that 10,000 to 15,000 ton a day range for a room and pillar. Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:53:22And what really limits us from driving any farther is you just can't develop the headings fast enough to get more tons through it. But it's in that range. It's not a 2,000, three thousand ton, and it's not 50,000 ton. It's somewhere in between. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:53:36Yes. But I do want to emphasize that this is purely conceptual at this All we have is the is or hopefully the permission to conduct exploration activities. It doesn't imply any pathway to mining yet. We still have quite a few hoops to jump through. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:53:52One last point. Could you refresh me as to the tonnes per day when the Troy mine operated nearby? That was a similar flat line room and pillar. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:54:06Sorry. I don't have that. Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:54:09I think that predates just about everyone in the room, so we'd have to look that one up for you. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:54:13That's right, dude. We'd have to go back and take a look. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:54:16I went there for in forty two years ago. I'm too old. Excuse me. Operator00:54:26Well, thank you so much. I will now turn the call back over to Rob Krichmarov for closing remarks. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:54:35Okay. Thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call, and thank you all for your questions. We look forward to updating you next quarter, if not earlier. Have a good day, Arun. Operator00:54:44Thanks, everyone. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMike ParkinVP - Strategy & IRRob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive OfficerRussell LawlarSVP, CFOCarlos AguiarSenior VP & COOKurt AllenVice President of ExplorationMatt BlattmanVice President – Technical ServicesAnalystsHeiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital MarketsMichael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital MarketsAndrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank FinancialHenry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley SecuritiesJoseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLCJohn TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent ResearchPowered by Key Takeaways In Q1, Hecla delivered record revenues of $261 million and adjusted EBITDA exceeding $90 million, reducing net leverage from 2.7× to 1.5× and improving its cash position to ~$20 million. The company produced 4.1 million ounces of silver and over 34 000 ounces of gold, highlighted by Lucky Friday’s consecutive quarterly milling record and Keno Hill’s first profitable quarter under Hecla’s ownership. Hecla’s forward strategy rests on four pillars—operational excellence, portfolio optimization, financial discipline, and silver market leadership—underpinned by ESG commitments and cost-control initiatives across all sites. Exploration plans include a $3.3 million targeted program in Nevada with two drill rigs at Midas and the “hub-and-spoke” model leveraging existing mill infrastructure, while Montana’s Libby project secured FAST-41 permitting progress. A strategic review of Casa Berardi is underway to evaluate options such as a sale, joint venture, or financing arrangements to unlock value amid high gold prices and extended permitting timelines. A.I. generated. 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Email Address About Hecla MiningHecla Mining (NYSE:HL) Company, together with its subsidiaries, provides precious and base metal properties in the United States, Canada, Japan, Korea, and China. The company mines for silver, gold, lead, and zinc concentrates, as well as carbon material containing silver and gold for custom smelters, metal traders, and third-party processors; and doré containing silver and gold. It flagship project is the Greens Creek mine located on Admiralty Island in southeast Alaska. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing My name is Bailey, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q1 twenty twenty five Hecla Mining Company Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Parkin, Vice President, Strategy and Investor Relations. Operator00:00:38You may begin. Mike ParkinVP - Strategy & IR at Hecla Mining Company00:00:41Good morning, and thank you all for joining us for HECLAS first quarter twenty twenty five results conference call. I am Mike Parkin, Vice President, Strategy and Investor Relations. Our earnings release that was issued yesterday along with today's presentation are available on our website. On the call today is Rob Prichmerov, President and Chief Executive Officer Russell Waller, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Carlos Aguilar, Senior Vice President and Chief Operations Officer Kurt Allen, Vice President of Exploration Anvita Patel, HECLAS Vice President and Treasurer and my predecessor as well as Matt Blaitman, Vice President, Technical Services. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will all be available to answer questions. Mike ParkinVP - Strategy & IR at Hecla Mining Company00:01:27Turning to Slide two. Any forward looking statements made today by the management team come under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act and involve risks as shown on Slide two, in our earnings release and in our 10 Q filings with the SEC. These and other risks could cause results to differ from those projected in the forward looking statements. Non GAAP measures cited in this call and related slides are reconciled in the slides or news release. I will now pass the call over to Rob. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:01:58Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Before we get started, I just want to take a moment to thank Andhita for her exceptional leadership and dedication over the last couple of years. Her willingness to shoulder the responsibilities of both Treasury and Investor Relations during a time of significant transition for the company has been nothing short of remarkable. And as you now transition back to focusing on your role solely as Treasurer and help Mike assume his new Investor Relations responsibilities, I want you to know that your contributions haven't gone unnoticed, so thank you, Ambita, from myself and on behalf of the senior management and the Board. Turning to Slide three, I've completed my first six months with the company and I've done visits to all of our operating mines and initiated a comprehensive review of our extensive exploration portfolio. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:02:48And I have to say that with each passing month, as I deepen my understanding of both our mineral assets and our talented employees, my confidence in Hecla's promising future continues to strengthen. So let me now share our forward strategy built on four key pillars, all grounded in ESG leadership. First, we're intensely focused on operational excellence and reinvigorating a continuous improvement program and culture at each site. We're standardizing systems across all mines to ensure consistent performance. Our investments in analytics and semi automation will improve real time decision making, and we're controlling costs aggressively while enhancing production through optimizing extraction methods, reduced dilution and better ventilation. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:03:37On the maintenance front, we're shifting to a more proactive approach with preventative programs that catch issues before they become costly problems. And we've identified critical parts that impact production and implemented a tracking system to ensure availability when needed. We're also investing in our workforce through targeted training and leadership development. Second, we're optimizing our portfolio for maximum returns. While our Casa Berardi assessment continues, we're evaluating our exploration assets to unlock hidden value. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:04:09Keno Hill remains our top priority for organic growth, but we're also developing a disciplined acquisition strategy aligned with our core strengths. Third, we've implemented rigorous financial discipline with a structured capital allocation framework focused on free cash flow and clear return on investment targets. And this approach prioritizes balance sheet strength, financial flexibility and reliable shareholder returns. Fourth, we remain committed to silver market leadership. As the largest producer in both The United States and Canada, we're uniquely positioned with long lived mines in top tier jurisdictions that provide regulatory stability and support responsible development. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:04:51Underpinning everything is our commitment to environmental stewardship, community partnerships and strengthened relationships with First Nations and all stakeholders, ensuring that we lead in ESG practices across the mining sector. As we turn to Slide four, let me highlight our achievements for the first quarter. Our operations delivered a strong quarter producing 4,100,000 ounces of silver and more than 34,000 ounces of gold, as well as robust volumes of lead and zinc and some copper positioning us well against our annual guidance. I'll highlight two notable achievements. So Lucky Friday set a consecutive quarterly milling record demonstrating exceptional consistency that Lucky Friday brings to our portfolio. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:05:35Meanwhile, Keno Hill produced nearly 800,000 ounces and delivered its first profitable quarter under Heckler's ownership. I'll discuss exploration later in the call, but I'm excited about the surface exploration programs we've initiated in Nevada. Additionally, our Libbey exploration project in Montana recently secured placement on the Federal Permitting Improvement Steering Council's FAST 41 permitting dashboard and that's a significant milestone that can streamline federal approvals and enhance coordination across agencies. Our exploration team has identified new geological concepts that warrant further investigation and the FAST 41 designation really provides a structured framework for advancing these studies. As with all capital allocation decisions, we remain committed to our disciplined investment criteria and we'll continue methodical assessment of this asset's potential to deliver value to our shareholders. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:06:28From a financial perspective, we delivered record quarterly revenues and adjusted EBITDA exceeding $90,000,000 driven by higher metal prices and solid contributions from all four operating mines. Our cornerstone assets, Greens Creek and Lucky Friday, continue to generate robust free cash flow of more than $40,000,000 during the quarter. We're maintaining our production and capital investment guidance for the year with some adjustments to individual asset cost projections that Carlos will speak in detail in a little while. Importantly, our consolidated silver cash costs and all in sustaining cost guidance on a per ounce basis remains unchanged, demonstrating the advantage of our diversified portfolio approach. And I will now hand the call to Russell for a detailed financial review. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:07:17Thank you, Rob. I'll start on Slide six. We make our capital allocation decisions with a long term view and strategy in mind. As I reflect on the financial position of the company one year ago, we reported a net leverage ratio of 2.7 times, and our net cash balance was negative $60,000,000 1 year later, I'm happy to report that we've improved the net leverage ratio more than one turn down to 1.5 times and improved the cash position of the company substantially with an effective balance of approximately $20,000,000 at the end of the quarter. I'll speak more about the details of the quarterly cash flow momentarily. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:07:49This improvement came from many sources, including better prices for both gold and silver, production from Lucky Friday for the past twelve months and other capital allocation decisions such as eliminating the Silverlink dividend. During this time, we also continued our investment in the Keno Hill mine as we see this as our food for growth project, which meets our return on investment criteria. We've made progress on these initiatives. And as we look ahead, our plan is to implement strict return on capital criteria on our investments, ensuring stewardship of our investors' money with the intention of seeing improved consistency in our financial results and improved performance. Our plan remains to delever the balance sheet, looking to improve both our net leverage ratio and also the outflow of interest expense. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:08:31At Casa Berardi, we are still determining the best path forward there where our strategic review options include the outright disposal, a joint venture to spin out, the potential of extending the underground or accelerating future cash flows to take advantage of the current record gold prices via prepayment or other financing arrangement or some combination of these alternatives. And in any scenario, we continue to see potential opportunities to maximize the value of this asset. Looking at the graph on the right hand side of slide six, we see Greens Creek and Lucky Friday continued their strong free cash flow generation with $42,000,000 generated during the quarter. Where on a consolidated basis, our free cash flow is negative $18,000,000 However, if you look closer to the details, you'll see an inventory build of $12,000,000 and an increase in accounts receivable of $29,000,000 These negative working capital adjustments were due to a few factors, but generally because our production improved toward the end of the quarter, which did not allow us to either sell all of the inventory on hand or collect some of the funds for those sales for the products sold. Additionally, we had working capital outflow of approximately $16,000,000 for accounts payable and other current liabilities, which is primarily the interest on our notes, which we pay each February and August, along with incentive compensation payments and some other outflows for payables. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:09:47Although we see negative working capital in the first quarter, I expect to see some of these items will turn in the next quarter as we sell the inventory that was built up for collect receivables, setting us up for a strong Q2. Turning to Slide seven, we generated record revenue of $261,000,000 during the quarter with 45% of our revenue from silver, gold at 33% as we benefited from the improved gold price and base metals coming in at around 22%. With silver prices increasing, our silver margins improved from 54% in 2024 to 65% this quarter. This record revenue and margin expansion at our silver operations also provided for record adjusted EBITDA, which helped improve the net leverage ratio from 1.6 times at the end of last year to 1.5 times at the end of this quarter. I'll now pass the call to Carlos for a more detailed review of the performance of our operations. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:10:35Thank you, Russell. I'll start on Slide nine. Greens Creek continued to demonstrate its consistency as a stable cash flow generator and producer. The mine produced 2,000,000 ounces of silver in the first quarter, driven by 10% increase in the silver grade made from the last quarter. The grade improved throughout the quarter to approximately 13 ounce per ton in March and remained strong entering the second quarter. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:11:01Backfill and development activities also continued to improve throughout the quarter, which helped with the delivery of high grade tons to the mill. Negative cash costs of $4.08 per ounce and negative all in sustainable cost, AESIG of $03 per silver ounce were significantly better than annual guidance. High impact product credits reduced costs, partially offset by increased fuel purchases due to the need for more site power generation than planned in the quarter. Capital investment in Grains Creek totaled $10,800,000 which is expected to rise in the next two quarters due to the construction season ramping up activities, a common theme across our producing portfolio as well as our exploration assets. Production guidance for 2025 at Greens Creek is maintaining at 8,100,000 to 8,800,000 ounces of silver. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:11:56We are lowering Grins Creek cost guidance significantly, primarily attributable to a strong gold by product credits in the first quarter with cash cost guidance reduced to $0.25 to $0.75 per ounce from the prior $2.5 range. And AC guidance lowered to $6.5 to $7.25 from $8.75 to $9.5 per ounce. Capital investment guidance is unchanged at 48,000,000 to $51,000,000 in sustaining capital and 10,000,000 to $12,000,000 in growth capital. Moving to Slide 12, Lucky Friday continues to demonstrate operational excellence, achieving a constituted quarterly million record of almost 109,000 tons, surpassing our previous record in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. The mine delivered consistent silver production of 1,300,000 ounces in the first quarter, maintaining its position as a core production asset. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:13:02While production remains strong, we experienced cost pressures during the quarter with cash costs at $9.37 per ounce and AISC of $20.08 per ounce after byproduct credits, primarily due to higher labor costs, profit sharing, consumables and contractor costs. In response, we implemented cost control initiatives aiming to reduce reliance on high cost contractors. Free cash flow generation in the first quarter was $8,400,000 negatively impacted by working capital change and the higher operating cost versus the prior quarter. We are maintaining our 2025 production guidance of 4,700,000 to 5,100,000 silver ounces while adjusting our cost projections to reflect current realities. Looking ahead, we anticipate capital investment to increase in the next two quarters as warmer weather supports our seasonal construction activities. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:14:00Our focus remains on balancing operational consistency with disciplined cost management to maximize Lucky Friday long term value contribution to our portfolio. Turning to Slide 11, Inno Hills produced over 770,000 ounces of silver. During the quarter, the throughput averaged three fifty tons per day remaining below the permitted limit of four forty tons per day. We noted in February, our power supplier for Keno Hill, Ducon Energy Corporation suffered a failure in its power generation to begin in October of last year at at the hydropower power plant in Whitehorse, which is not scheduled to be repaired until August of this year. Despite these and other challenge, InnoHill delivered its first profitable quarter under Hecla ownership with $1,000,000 in gross profit, which resulted in no cost being transferred to ramp up and substation cost. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:15:02Work continues to bring the asset into a state of sustainable, profitable production when the mill has proven to be capable of operating our permitting capacity of four forty tons per day, our mining rates have lagged. To improve our mining rates and put the mine on pad towards achieving its current permitting capacity of four forty tons per day, we must advance permits and successfully continue to improve development of the deposits and execute critical infrastructure projects, which include dry stack tailings, cementing tailings backfill plant and water treatment plant upgrades. Long term profitability and conservative metal price assumptions will require throughput rates of approximately 500 to 600 tons per day due to Hema Hill high fixed costs. These will require new permits, additional infrastructure investment and execution of significant capital plans and mine development. Beyond technical execution, our success also depends on continuing to strain our partnership with First Nation and the Juukan government as a responsible long term partner. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:16:18In 2025, we are reiterating our guidance for Quina Hill expecting silver production of 2,700,000 to 3,100,000 ounces and quarterly production cost of 15,000,000 to 17,000,000. Turning to Slide 12, Casa Berardi produced about 20,500 ounces of gold during the quarter at cash cost and AZIC of $2,195 and $2,303 per ounce respectively. In the second half of twenty twenty five, the 160 Pit is expected to demonstrate improved economics and generate a stronger cash flow and the strip ratio decreased and reliance in contractors eases, with improvement to be achieved late in the third quarter. Currently, there is no change to the Casa Verada production guidance of 76,000 to 82,000 ounces of gold production in 2025. Cash cost guidance and AC guidance isn't changed despite the first quarter cash cost and AC coming in above the full year guidance range on a pro rata basis as they are in line with the company's expectation and truly improving the second half of the year. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:17:31I'll now hand the call over to Rob to discuss exploration initiatives in Nevada that are ramping up this month. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:17:38Thank you, Carlos. As I deepen my understanding of our exploration portfolio, I'm particularly excited about our Nevada assets. We're investing over $3,300,000 this year in a targeted exploration program at our high grade properties with two drill rigs now deploying at Midas. Our Nevada strategy centers on a hub and spoke approach, leveraging existing infrastructure across high grade historical districts. And Midas stands out with its impressive production history of 2,200,000 ounces of gold and 27,000,000 ounces of silver at exceptional grades. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:18:12This 30,000 acre property features an extensive alteration footprint, suggesting significant potential for new vein discoveries supported by an existing mill and tailings facility that really could become our Northern Nevada hub. Just 15 miles to the Southeast, Hollister offers complementary potential as North America's Third highest grade underground gold mine, with production grades averaging 0.8 ounces per tonne gold. The Hatter Graben resource area already contains a gold and silver resource with geological evidence indicating a fully preserved epithermal system likely holding its best mineralization at depth. And these strategic assets combined with our systematic exploration approach represents a compelling opportunity to create meaningful shareholder value through resource expansion and potential future production. Moving to Slide 14, I'll close by reviewing our key deliverables for 2025. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:19:11To position Hecla for sustainable growth and shareholder returns, we remain committed to our strategic priorities. At Kino Hill, we anticipate unlocking long term value through disciplined permitting processes and execution excellence and moving this high grade asset down the path towards reaching its transformative potential. Concurrently, we're implementing a robust capital allocation framework that prioritizes high return investments, while maintaining operational efficiency and our commitment to safety and environment. Our focus on generating strong free cash flow fits well with our deleveraging initiatives and offers opportunity to strengthen our balance sheet and enhance financial flexibility. Finally, we continue to look to optimize our portfolio through rationalization efforts at Casa Berardi and are actively evaluating strategic initiatives that align with our core competencies and value creation objectives. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:20:09We expect that by coordinating these actions, we can maintain operational excellence and achieve financial strength and sustainable growth for years to come. And so with that operator, I'd like to open the call to questions. Operator00:20:24We will take your first question from the line of Heiko Ehle with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:20:40Hey, it's Heiko from Wainwright. I assume you can hear me okay? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:20:44We can. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:20:46Perfect. Good morning. You have a pretty diverse operational asset base across borders. Just out of curiosity with all the recent talk about tariffs, I mean, can't open a newspaper without reading about it and just international trade facing a variety of arguably soft cost headwinds. Have there been any components or inputs or parts or anything that has been delayed? Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:21:11Anything in particular where you've seen an outsized impact on pricing or availability anywhere across your mind? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:21:21Thanks for your question. I'll let Russell answer that one. But just bear in mind that roughly 50% of our costs are in labor. There will be some minor impacts on consumables and other things. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:21:36That's right. Excuse me. Thanks, Rob. And thanks for the question, Heiko. Yeah. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:21:41As we think about, the business, we've really got the the items that we purchased and then the the things that we sell. Right? So as we think about, the things that we purchase, we do anticipate seeing higher costs for things like rebar and steel and those types of things just because the tariffs will hit that type of industry maybe more directly than others. We haven't necessarily seen any or or lack of being able to get parts and and things like that. Part of that is because we do try to look ahead and and, you know, as as tariffs were being announced and and even talked about months ago, we tried to be proactive and make sure that we had things, you know, parts stocked. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:22:21As I think more specifically about the parts that we do buy, most of the things we buy, we buy at each operation in that country. And so I think that any tariffs on that in that regard would be kind of indirect where maybe you buy a part from a supplier that's manufactured in their, plant in, say, Mexico or something like that. But, you know, currently, right now, you know, Mexico, Canada, United States, parts sourced out of those are are are generally exempt. So we that's okay. And as we think about parts that we get from China, there's not much. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:22:55I keep grinding balls and things like that. But, frankly, we've been we have a a kind of long long lead time supply on those. So we've we've got a lot of those in stock. We haven't been hit directly yet. The other on the other side of the equation is what we sell, which is our concentrates. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:23:10We we export all of our concentrates essentially. Some of those concentrates get exported from The United States to Canada, and then some go either from Canada or The United States to Asia. And and some of those concentrates, frankly, do go to China. The contracting strategy that we've had currently has really insulated us from any direct impact of those tariffs going into China. But I would expect in 2026, we may see the impact of tariffs. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:23:39And what we'll see there, I think, is more we'll see the cost to place that at a western smelter might go up versus smelter in China, but I don't expect any risk of us not being able to place concentrate. Does that does that answer your question fully, Heiko? Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:23:56It it does. I mean, I yeah. It does. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:23:58Yeah. I mean, I've been in this industry long enough to remember the days when, you know, it was impossible to get, tires for trucks. So it this the stuff still sits freshly on my mind, I guess. Completely different follow-up question. You mentioned the Yukon Energy Corporation repair for the turbine failure that's going to be happening in August. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:24:19Obviously, early for this question, but is the site going to be down altogether when that happens? And if so, how long do you think this will halt the operations? And again, it's a little early for this one. Any way you can quantify your best guess as to the financial impact as well? Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:24:41The projection for the repairs of the turbine expected to be in the month of August, and it's gonna last six days. So we are planning to advance yeah. Six days. Six days. And and and in our projections, we included that downtime. Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:24:58Right? And and we are we are on a schedule to advance some of the maintenance projects during that period of time with the with the some restriction in the in the power source. But there are plenty of projects that can be, you know, advanced during that period of time. The and, of course, the economic impact of those days right now are estimated at the laying 90,000 ounces of silver and of course with some labor costs associated with that. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:25:33So we're in regular dialogue with Yukon Power. We know it's coming. We've planned for it and we're ready. Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:25:42Perfect. That's good to hear. I'll get back in queue and give other people a chance. Thank Heiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:25:47you. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:25:48Thank you. Operator00:25:50Your next question comes from the line of Dalton Baretto with Canaccord. Your line is open. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:25:57Thanks, operator. Good morning, Rob and team. Thanks for taking my questions. I want to stay on keynote here. It seems to me that the language used in your outlook for keynote has gotten significantly more uncertain, let's call it. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:26:12I'm just trying to get some context around it. I'm specifically trying to understand, like if you got the permits tomorrow and you had community support, how much capital and time would it require to get that operation sustainably, the 600 tonnes per day? And then on the flip side, what sort of metal prices would you need to see in order to sort of curtail production while you do these projects? You. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:26:36Morning, Dalton, and thanks for your question. Our messaging at Keynote is really about it's an evolving work in progress. There's no doubt that we underestimated some things like costs, and obviously, we've had some unforeseen events like the neighboring heap leach that basically put permitting on hold. But having said that, I think we've made some real progress there building on what we accomplished last year. So we fixed the crushing system that was really slowing us down. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:27:07We got all the permits for expanding our tailings facility, which was crucial. And I think the big win for us was really running the mill for extended periods of time and consistently hitting about 400 tonnes per day, and that was over several So that really proves that our processing works our processing setup works and that's kind of huge for our next steps. And going forward, really, we need to get our mining rate in sync with what our mill can handle and we're going to do this by gradually ramping up both the Bermingham and Flame And Moth deposits. We know we need permits for this, so we've recently welcomed a highly experienced sustainability executive, Patrick Malone, with decades of permitting experience, who's already begun building a specialized team. We're also strengthening our technical capabilities to make sure that we get those permit applications right. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:27:59And I have to say our collaborative engagement with the First Nations has increased as well. So let me just recap. So we're focusing on expanding our water treatment plant, adding waste storage, enhancing our tailings facilities. We're also starting construction on tailings batch fuel plant and that's going to improve both productivity and safety. The waste and tailings storage, that is going to reach capacity by 2028. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:28:24So getting those permits, it's really time sensitive and so we're also working on increasing our capacity to house more workers as we scale up. I should also mention that we've done a thorough assessment of what care and maintenance would look like. That's just good planning. And we still believe that advancing Kenahue will make strategic sense, even though I can't tell you exactly when it's going to hit our profitability targets. Reaching 600 tonnes per day, that is going to take a few years to get there. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:29:00First, we need to sustainably mine at 400 tonnes per day. I'm talking metric tons here. And match that to the mill's capacity. Anything you want to add, Carlos? Carlos AguiarSenior VP & COO at Hecla Mining Company00:29:12Yes. This is still work in progress, permitting. You mentioned tailings capacity. And of course, we are really excited this year to start the construction of the backfill plant, which is going to change and it's going to improve safety and productivity in the near future. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:29:33So our understanding of that ore body, it keeps improving. And with each milestone, it brings us really closer to unlocking the real value of this Silver District, which we're quite excited about. So it's still a work in progress. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:29:47Got it. Thank you for all that color, Rob. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:29:50If I can switch gears You kinda you kinda mentioned you mentioned cost as well, and and I would say that, you know, we've invested quite a bit of of capital in Keno Hill over the the past few years, obviously. We've we've all seen that. I I think that, you know, you look at the performance that we've seen over the past few years, we have seen improved or more consistent performance. We need to improve that. We'll we'll continue to make these investments. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:30:14You know, Carlos and and Rob both mentioned the tailings batch fill plant, and and that should help us, you know, improve the the rate that we can extract from the mine. Because right now, you know, in the past, frankly, it used to be that the mill wasn't able to keep up, and now the the mine isn't able to keep up with the mill. So we just keep keep hitting those, those bottlenecks. And so so we think about that. We will see capital continue into the future over the next few years as we do those types of projects, these infrastructure projects, improve the development developed state of the mine. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:30:44But we should see that tail off as we as we kinda get further out into the future. Yeah. And keep in mind as well, we do have investment criteria that we are looking at and evaluating, and and Keno Hill continues to meet that, but we have to execute on these plans. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:31:02Understood. Thank you for that, Raj. And if I my follow-up, Raj, if I can direct that one to you as well. I appreciate your comments in terms of placing the Greens Creek concentrate and sort of finding an alternative to China. But in the March 20 executive order, one of the things that order talks about having the Commerce Department look into, in addition to export tariffs on critical minerals, is also an export tax. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:31:29And I'm wondering if that goes into play, what options do you have for placing green screen concentrate? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:31:38Frankly, Dalton, I'll have to get back to you on that There's been various things that we've looked at, but I can't say that I have that on my radar, and I apologize for that. Operator00:31:56Your next question comes from the line of Michael Ciperco with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:32:04Thanks very much and thanks for taking my question. Maybe a couple on the growth outlook. And Rob, you talked about Nevada and what you're seeing there. I guess, can you give us a little bit more color about maybe how you see that in the context of the portfolio? I know it's early. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:32:26And maybe how what we should be expecting in terms of a timeline for either a study or an update on what you see in terms of the potential in Nevada? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:32:41Sure. Good morning, Michael. I'm going to hand you over to Kurt. But I have to say, I was out there about a month ago and we have this permitted unused mill. We have tailing storage capacity. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:32:53And so really our approach is this hub and spoke model. Right now, what we need to do is build up a critical amount of resources and then relook at a path forward. Kirk, could you add some more color, please? Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:33:09Yes. Thanks, Michael. The program that we have at Midas this year, we're going to have two drill rigs. We've got about seven targets, and these are all high grade vein targets. We're thinking that we've kind of figured out the structural regime on the east part of the property there. Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:33:29These are early stage drill holes. It's going to tell us a lot, but we're focused on trying to identify the high grade portions of those veins. And I think it's going to be similar size our potential is similar size to what was mined in the past. Now Aurora is another project that we're currently in the permitting process. So we're doing a five year expiration EA there. Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:33:53We should have that by the end of the year, and that's going to open up the entire district there for expiration. So we're kind of waiting on that EA at Aurora. And then Hollister, in my years of experience, is probably one of the largest surface expressions of an epithermal system. And we've got several targets there. We're not going to drill there this year. Kurt AllenVice President of Exploration at Hecla Mining Company00:34:14We're hoping to be able to do that next year. But I think within a couple, two, three years, four years, depending on the results from this year and next year's programs, I think we'll be on to something and move those projects forward. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:34:30Thanks, Kurt. One of the most striking things when I was on-site, to Kurt's point, what defines a mineral system or the limits of the mineral system is how altered the rocks are. That shows you that fluids have been going through it. And so when I was on-site, you stand on really intense alteration that Curt was talking about, and it's probably a couple of kilometers away from where all the pretty much all the previous historic mining and development and exploration has been focused. So that playground, it's huge. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:35:00And so that's what's really got me excited. I think there's an opportunity in where all the work has previously been focused around existing operations and really not that much outside of it. Sorry, I cut you off, Michael. Go ahead. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:35:14No, that's good color. So I I suppose I'm I'm looking to understand and maybe lost track a little bit of of where exactly you you were in the advancement in Nevada. Like, is it fair to say that, in an optimistic scenario, we'd be talking about a potential production scenario, let's say, four or five years down the road? Is that the kind of time frame that you might have in mind if everything works out? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:35:43That's certainly possible, just given that we have some permanent facilities. We obviously are underinvested in exploration at the moment. And as I said on the last call, that's not through lack of quality targets or opportunities. Just basically our focus on financial discipline. And as our financial situation improves, I do see that we'll be investing a lot more in exploration. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:36:07A lot of it will be focused at Nevada. I think there's some very good potential there. But to your point, four or five years, obviously, we need to we'll probably need some more permits. I don't know how long that's going to take, it's not an unrealistic assumption. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:36:21Okay. And that's actually a perfect segue into my next question, if I could. In terms of your capital allocation priorities, talking about deleveraging, you've talked about potential for additional CapEx at Keno and underfunded exploration, which presumably will go higher as well as whatever other development activities. Can you kind of break that down for us? Like how do you look at organic reinvestment in assets versus your deleveraging efforts? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:36:56Yeah. Good morning, and thanks thanks, Mike. This is is Russell. I'll take that question. It's, you know, it's always a balancing act. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:37:02Right? And and I'll say we're fortunate because we have assets that that do generate a substantial amount of of cash in Lucky Friday and Greens Creek. And as we look at the economics for Casa Berardi, you know, we're going through this the strategic review right now, but we do anticipate the economics of that will improve and provide cash flow as well, especially in today's prices out later this year and into next. And so as we think about that cash flow, there's a balancing act between ensuring that you invest substantial capital into those operations that provide that cash flow, so Lucky Friday, Greens Creek, etcetera, the growth capital at Keno Hill. Because, you know, for Keno Hill to hit those return on invested capital metrics that we've talked about, we need to invest in it. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:37:48So we'll be doing those things while at the same time looking to delever, you know, reduce the interest expense that we're we're paying now. And as we do that, then we anticipate, you know, seeing further cash flows from that. And then, frankly, you know, the the last thing that I haven't talked about is the expiration. So, you know, it is a it is a balancing act between, making sure that we're taking care of all of those, those items kind of all all at the same time in a strategic way. But I would say, you know, as we look out into the future, we anticipate investments as we're planning out our cash flows, right? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:38:22So we're planning those cash flows as it relates to or those investments as it relates to investment in our operating assets or our exploration portfolio. Michael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital Markets00:38:33Okay, great. That's good color. Thanks very much. I'll pass it on. Operator00:38:39Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Duesome with National Bank. Your line is open. Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:38:45Hi, Rob and team. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just that Lucky Friday, I know the labor costs there have been, one of the main drivers of increasing costs over the last little while. Can you just give some more color what's driving those labor costs higher? Is it just wage inflation? Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:39:04Is there labor tightness that you have to address? So just any color you can provide there. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:39:10I mean, there's two main things there. One is that we have been using contractors and that's something that we've got our focus and attention on to try and minimize the use of high cost contract labor. The other thing is the profit sharing, which is a good problem to have. That means that we're actually generating profits. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:39:30Anything else to add? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:39:32I'll jump in and just to add on to what Rob had said. The performance of Lucky Friday has been actually very strong. So the amount that we do pay under the profit sharing program as well as the and I'm I'm gonna miss the acronym exactly, but the production bonus off there, the bonus that we pay to the workers there, has actually paid out above target based on the performance of Lucky Friday. That's and that that performance on on that bonus is related to production, safety, environmental performance. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:40:03And then there is a cost component there too. But when you take it all in balance, Lucky Friday has frankly outperformed. And as a result, we have seen those additional payments, which which we welcome. Welcome. Those are the good problems to have, like what Rob said. Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:40:18Got Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:40:18it. And then maybe shifting to cash as well. So you left production and cash cost basic guidance unchanged, but there was an increase in the cost of sales, dollars 1,000,000. So just wondering, what are you seeing from the operations to offset that increase in millions cost of sales with unchanged production and cash cost guidance? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:40:42It's it's a good question. Thanks thanks for asking it, Andrew. So keep in mind that cost of sales number is both cash cost and noncash cost, and it's a GAAP number. Whereas the and it's so you know, as we present that number and we present non GAAP numbers, we have to present the closest GAAP number to the non GAAP number, which is cost of sales. And so that's the number that's presented there. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:41:05So it's it's a combination of it's a GAAP number. It's both, noncash and cash cost. But as we as we looked at Casa Berardi and we looked at the performance both in the first quarter and the what we expect for the remainder of the year, and we updated our expectations and our models, really frankly, the model still predicts that will come out within And so therefore, although we did see costs increase as we, have seen the frankly, the stripping is a little bit behind where we expect it to be at this point, we still anticipate coming in under guidance. It'll just cost a little bit more money. Andrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank Financial00:41:44Got it. Thanks for that color. I'll jump back in the queue. Operator00:41:49Your next question comes from the line of Nick Giles with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:41:54Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. This is Henry Hurl on for Nick Giles. I wanted to start by asking if there are any updates on a potential sale of Casa? And then have a higher gold prices changed the way that you're approaching this? And then should we also think about any potential proceeds from the sale as earmarked for a debt pay down? Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:42:14Thanks. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:42:17Good morning, Henry. It's not a foregone conclusion that we're going to sell Cussa. What we said was that we're looking at all strategic alternatives and that includes an outright sale. It includes joint venturing, spinning out extending the underground mine, taking advantage of the current high gold prices, whatever. And so that's a work in progress. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:42:37And what I said is that we'd provide an update sometime during Q2. Our work is still underway and we'll report by next quarter, if not sooner. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:42:47As it relates to Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:42:48the proceeds, the way we would look at it is we would use proceeds to delever or we would anticipate doing that. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:42:55So yes, just to cover that off as well. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:42:58All right. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:42:59Yes. Thanks for that. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:43:00And then so how could the permitting timeline impact the strategic alternatives process? And then would you feel that you could get the full value for the asset despite kind of the setback of the permitting? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:43:14I mean, there's no doubt that we have a permitting hiatus ahead of us. Last time we communicated this, we said it was going to take about five years. I don't know if it's going to exactly take five years. I don't know whether there's an opportunity to accelerate it or not, but it's certainly you're going to discount those future cash flows. There's no doubt about that. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:43:34But again, since we started our strategic review, the gold price has moved up significantly. And you know, we're we're we're looking at that through, basically, a refresh lens of a much higher gold price. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:43:49Got it. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:43:50Yeah. Thanks for the comment. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:43:52Essentially, what what we're doing is just looking to see how best we can, you know, daylight as much value from Casa Berardi as possible. And the change in the gold price will play into that. Henry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley Securities00:44:04Got it. Thanks for the commentary and continue best of luck. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:44:09Thank you, Henry. Operator00:44:11Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Frieger with ROTH Capital Markets. Your line is open. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:44:18Hey, Rob and team. Thanks for taking my questions. Backing up a bit to Kino, Are you guys, I guess, sure that the mine can support an or mining rate of 500 or 600 tons per day? I know it's always been a challenge there to get the mining rate up at the mine underground. Like so what's your level of confidence that even with the permits you could do that in the future? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:44:52I think with the investments that we've spoken about, getting to an increased mining rate, that is clear. I think we can achieve that. Whether it makes economic sense or not, that's another matter. Clearly, a key part of this is getting Flame and Moth production ramped up. We also a critical piece of increasing the production rate is really doing enough development. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:45:18That's really what we have a focus on at the moment to make sure that all of our stopes prepared and sequenced. I've got Matt with us. Matt, is there anything you want add? Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:45:28Yes. Thanks for that, Rob. One of the ones that I would be most focused on is we can ramp up. We can get things going. But at this point, we don't have permits to store all the waste. Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:45:38You know, by accelerating production right now, we then run out of space and putting more pressure on our permitting. So it's a strategic choice at this point to not move things any faster than we've got it already going. So to answer the direct question, we're very confident we can get up to the four forty pretty easily and the 600 will come eventually, but there are other constraints that are limiting our ability to do that right now. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:46:03Okay. Fair enough. And then looking at the cost revisions at Casa and Lucky Friday, obviously, they're reflective of a variety of factors that occurred already in Q1. Like how confident are you guys that the revised number is now correct? And is there a portion of this revision that is related to profit sharing, would in the event gold and silver were to pull back that the cost would also pull back with that? Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:46:33Yeah. I would suggest that anytime that we put our guidance out, we're confident in those numbers. Unfortunately, sometimes we do have to revise them. So, you know, we we put the numbers out, and we're confident that we can achieve those or else, you we would put out the numbers that we believe we could achieve. You know, as it relates to profit sharing, yeah, you know, I think that if you did see it pull back, then you could see, you know, lesser costs. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:46:59So I think more important than that would be, us continuing to execute on cost control and replacing contractors with employees and those types of things that are that's more meaningful to the company as a whole. Joseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:47:12Okay. Thanks. My other questions were already touched on. I'll turn it over. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:47:17Thank you. Operator00:47:19Your next question comes from the line of Dalton Baretto with Canaccord. Your line is open. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:47:25Thanks for taking my follow ups guys. Rob, in your prepared remarks, one of the things you mentioned was a disciplined allocation strategy or sorry, acquisition strategy. And I'm wondering if you can wrap some parameters around that for us, anything around jurisdiction, commodity, asset size, stage, anything like that. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:47:47Sure. So when we think about M and A, we need to have some parameters, and this is something that's socialized with the Board as well. And so we need to carefully look at our gold and silver mix. Unique in our space in that we have a great proportion of our revenues come from silver. And so primarily, we want to remain a silver company, and that's really what we're focused on. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:48:15Do we have room for gold? Yes, we probably do. But really, we'd be looking at it exactly the same as we would any other investment. Think the sorry, lost my train of thought here. So with M and A, it's about not reacting to available opportunities and really doing proper and thorough due diligence. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:48:39And then a key part of that is assessing what are the returns and how does that compete with internal growth projects as well. And so M and A is something that we're always looking at, but it will become more of a focus as we delever and as we get into a position of strength. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:02Great. Thanks, Rob. And if I can just ask on Libbey, which I think is a massively underappreciated part of your portfolio right now. I don't think sediment hosted high grade copper deposits really exist anymore. Sandus things on fast track. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:16If permitting goes the way you hope, what's the approach? Are you going to go at it solo? Would you bring in a partner? How would you look at that? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:49:26I think, I mean, this is a material asset for us. You're aware of the inferred resource of about 180,000,000 ounces of silver and about 1,700,000,000 pounds of copper. So we recognize it's significant, but it's also going to come with a very significant capital cost. I don't know what it's going be, but I imagine it's going to be closer to $1,000,000,000 more than anything. And I am interested in perhaps looking at partnering up with perhaps someone who has more of a focus on copper. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:49:56Remember, this is about 0.7% copper grade, which is quite significant. And so if we could partner up with that, that would be something we'd certainly consider because I think the price is large enough to share and that would mean that we could maintain our focus on our core business, which is basically precious metals. Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:50:19Thanks, Rob. I don't think you'd find any shortage of interested parties. Thanks for taking my questions. Sure. Operator00:50:27And your final question will come from the line of John Tumazos with John Tumazos Very Independent Research. Your line is open. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:50:35Rob, thank you. Following up on questions with Libby, how fast can Hecla move in sympathy or the fast 41? What are the steps to get it to definitive fees besides the infill drilling of the inferred resource? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:51:00Let me just outline the next So we've obviously got the designation and that's going to enhance that long term potential and make sure that there's a bit more transparency on the process. At the moment, we've got a plant of operations that's under an environmental assessment and that's being reviewed by the U. S. Forestry Service. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:51:22And we expect a decision on that to be issued pretty soon, now actually. And if that's approved and they issue a FONSI, so that's a finding of no significant impact, there's going to be a forty five day objection period and then there's going to be a thirty day period that we could respond to that. And depending on the nature of any objections received by the forestry service, there might be an updated plan of operations and that could be approved in Q3 of twenty twenty five. Once that process is finished, we'll basically have the authority to dewater and rehabilitate an existing 14,000 foot addict, about half of it's underwater. And we need to extend it by about 4,000 feet and do some lateral drifts so that we can do our exploration activities. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:52:10So there's a ton of work that still needs to happen. We do need to reestablish and revalidate the resource and then ultimately produce some sort of an economic study. So it's going to take quite a few years and a considerable amount of effort, but we do recognize the value of this asset in our portfolio. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:52:30Rob, is this plan of operation for exploration as opposed to tonnes per day mining for production? When you get what do you think is the target concept for tonnes per day production? 2,000, 10 thousand, 20 thousand tonnes a day? Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:52:55So it's a fairly flat lying ore body, and it will likely be mined by room and pillar. And so don't know, Matt, could you comment what a potential conceptual Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:53:07The previous work that's been done has been targeted at 12,500 tons a day. So it's a relatively large production. It's relatively low grade. I mean, you've got to get the tons up. So you're in that 10,000 to 15,000 ton a day range for a room and pillar. Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:53:22And what really limits us from driving any farther is you just can't develop the headings fast enough to get more tons through it. But it's in that range. It's not a 2,000, three thousand ton, and it's not 50,000 ton. It's somewhere in between. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:53:36Yes. But I do want to emphasize that this is purely conceptual at this All we have is the is or hopefully the permission to conduct exploration activities. It doesn't imply any pathway to mining yet. We still have quite a few hoops to jump through. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:53:52One last point. Could you refresh me as to the tonnes per day when the Troy mine operated nearby? That was a similar flat line room and pillar. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:54:06Sorry. I don't have that. Matt BlattmanVice President – Technical Services at Hecla Mining Company00:54:09I think that predates just about everyone in the room, so we'd have to look that one up for you. Russell LawlarSVP, CFO at Hecla Mining Company00:54:13That's right, dude. We'd have to go back and take a look. John TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent Research00:54:16I went there for in forty two years ago. I'm too old. Excuse me. Operator00:54:26Well, thank you so much. I will now turn the call back over to Rob Krichmarov for closing remarks. Rob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive Officer at Hecla Mining Company00:54:35Okay. Thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call, and thank you all for your questions. We look forward to updating you next quarter, if not earlier. Have a good day, Arun. Operator00:54:44Thanks, everyone. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMike ParkinVP - Strategy & IRRob KrcmarovPresident and Chief Executive OfficerRussell LawlarSVP, CFOCarlos AguiarSenior VP & COOKurt AllenVice President of ExplorationMatt BlattmanVice President – Technical ServicesAnalystsHeiko IhleMD & Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright & Co.Dalton BarettoManaging Director, Equity Research at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital MarketsMichael SipercoDirector at RBC Capital MarketsAndrew DusomeEquity Research Associate, Metals & Mining at National Bank FinancialHenry HearleEquity Research Associate at B. Riley SecuritiesJoseph ReagorManaging Director at Roth Capital Partners, LLCJohn TumazosOwner and CEO at John Tumazos Very Independent ResearchPowered by