Lument Finance Trust Q1 2025 Earnings Report

Lument Finance Trust EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.08
• Consensus EPS: $0.10
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$0.02
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Lument Finance Trust Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $9.32 million
• Expected Revenue: $9.21 million
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$113.00 thousand
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Lument Finance Trust Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q1 2025
• Date: 5/12/2025
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 8:30AM ET

Lument Finance Trust (NYSE:LFT), a real estate investment trust, focuses on investing in, financing, and managing a portfolio of commercial real estate (CRE) debt investments in the United States. The company primarily invests in transitional floating rate CRE mortgage loans on middle market multi-family assets; and other CRE -related investments, including mezzanine loans, preferred equity, commercial mortgage-backed securities, fixed rate loans, construction loans, and other CRE debt instruments. Lument Finance Trust, Inc. is qualified as a real estate investment trust (REIT) under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986. As a REIT, it would not be subject to federal income taxes if it distributes at least 90% of its taxable income to its stockholders. The company was formerly known as Hunt Companies Finance Trust, Inc. and changed its name to Lument Finance Trust, Inc. in December 2020. Lument Finance Trust, Inc. was incorporated in 2012 and is headquartered in New York, New York.

Lument Finance Trust Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• For Q1 the company reported a GAAP net loss of $0.03 per share, distributable earnings of $0.08 per share, and maintained its quarterly dividend at $0.08 per share.
• Management highlighted a resilient U.S. economy and strong multifamily fundamentals—robust occupancy, limited new supply, and sustained demand—supporting a favorable medium- to long-term outlook.
• Seven loans totaling $108 million were downgraded to risk rating 5, leading to a $7.3 million increase in specific reserves and a sequential book-value decline to $3.29 per share.
• The trust ended Q1 with $64 million in unrestricted cash, used principal repayments to deleverage its LMS facility, and is pursuing new secured financing to regain flexibility and access the CRE CLO market.
• Management believes it has a deep origination pipeline of lease-up and new-construction multifamily loans to deploy as financing capacity becomes available, though market volatility may temper near-term deal flow.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good morning, and thank you for joining the Lumet Finance Trust First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded and will be made available via webcast on the company's website. I would now like to turn the call over to Andrew Tsong with Investor Relations at Lumen Investment Management. Please go ahead.

[Andrew Tsang, MD - Corporate Development at Lument Finance Trust]

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call to discuss Lumen Finance Trust's first quarter twenty twenty five financial results. With me on the call today are Jim Flynn, our CEO Jim Briggs, our CFO Greg Calvert, our President and Zachary Halpern, our Managing Director of Portfolio Management. On Monday, May 12, we filed our 10 Q with the SEC and issued a press release to provide details on our recent financial results. We also provided a supplemental earnings presentation, which can be found on our website.

[Andrew Tsang, MD - Corporate Development at Lument Finance Trust]

Before handing the call over to Jim Flynn, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made during the course of this call are not based on historical information and may constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Such forward looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in forward looking statements. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the company's reports filed with the SEC, in particular the Risk Factors section of our Form 10 ks. It is not possible to predict or identify all such risks, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to update any of these forward looking statements.

[Andrew Tsang, MD - Corporate Development at Lument Finance Trust]

Further, certain non GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. Presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation nor as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP can be accessed through our filings with the SEC. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we reported a GAAP net loss of $03 per share and distributable earnings of $08 per share of common stock. In March, we declared a quarterly dividend of $08 per common share, respected first quarter in line with the prior quarter.

[Andrew Tsang, MD - Corporate Development at Lument Finance Trust]

I will now turn over the call to Jim Flynn. Please go ahead.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Lumet Finance Trust earnings call for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. We appreciate all of you joining us today. Before we begin with the market update, I would like to officially welcome Greg Calvert as our new President and newest member of our management team.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

I personally worked with Greg for almost twenty years. He has extensive experience in multifamily credit and nearly a thirty year tenure at Lumint and its predecessor entities, making him an exceptional addition to our leadership team. Welcome, Greg. Turning to the economy and market. Despite ongoing uncertainty related to the pace and direction of interest rate policy, the broader U.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

S. Economy has continued to show somewhat surprising resilience. The labor market remains tight. Consumer spending has held up much better than anticipated. And inflation, while easing from the peak, continues to be a focus for the Fed and frankly for investors and the economy.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

However, the topic of the day continues to be trade and tariffs. Any developments, whether real or projected, have had significant impact on markets and sentiment as we saw yesterday and also are seeing this morning in pre market. As we move through 2025, we are mindful of the potential for volatility for this and all economic issues, but we do remain cautiously optimistic that good opportunities for investment will be present in 2025. Stability and monetary policy would provide a constructive backdrop for the returning health of the commercial real estate finance market. The multifamily sector continues to demonstrate relative resilience amid evolving market dynamics.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Although low rent growth remains muted, occupancy rates remain robust. On the supply side, multifamily construction starts have decelerated due to several contributing factors, including scarcity of attractive financing and increased construction costs. Looking ahead, the combination of steady demand, limited new supply, and the challenges faced by potential homebuyers due to mortgage rates suggest a favorable environment for multifamily investments over the medium to long term. As a result of improving conditions, we have seen greater financing origination opportunities, albeit choppy over the past forty five days. And the capital markets appear to continue to be engaged relatively significantly.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Throughout this environment, active asset management has been and continues to be our priority. We take a proactive approach to monitoring borrower performance, market trends, and collateral values. Our team is in constant dialogue with our borrowers, ensuring that we can identify issues early and respond strategically in order to maximize recovery values, including foreclosure and REO strategies were prudent. As we have mentioned previously, we have executed several successful loan modifications and extensions that preserve value and enhance our downside production. We remain committed to preserving capital and maximizing risk adjusted returns across this cycle.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Our credit risk ratings have remained largely stable quarter over quarter, and sequential increases to our specific reserves are in line with our expectations for the portfolio performance. Given our focus on optimizing recovery from our existing investments, we have appropriately managed liquidity to maintain flexibility, holding a considerable amount of unrestricted cash on our balance sheet rather than deploying it into new loan assets. We have also elected to use principal repayments received on assets held within the LMS financing structure to partially pay down outstanding liabilities. This voluntary partial delevering of the portfolio provides us with additional cushion in meeting various collateralization and interest rate coverage covenants within that structure, which we believe is an acceptable trade off as we continue to resolve the more challenged credits and seek to put more favorable secured financing in place later this year. We are currently reviewing options for a new secured financing for that portfolio, and we expect to close in the coming months.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

We expect the new financing will provide us with adequate flexibility to manage our seasoned credits while putting us in a favorable position to viably access the CRE CLO market as a returning issuer. Following a lull in new deals post the Trump administration's April second tariff announcements, there's been a flurry of new CRE CLO deals over the past several weeks, which has been encouraging and demonstrates anticipate a new issuance in the second half of twenty twenty five. We continue to leverage the origination, underwriting and asset management expertise of our manager and its affiliates to identify and capitalize on compelling investment opportunities. Our ability to navigate the current environment prudently manage our liquidity, optimize capital deployment on a levered basis and manage our challenged assets will be key to delivering long term value to our shareholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jim Briggs, who'll provide details on our financial results. Jim?

[James Briggs, Chief Financial Officer at Lument Finance Trust]

Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone. Last evening, we filed our quarterly report on Form 10 Q and provided a supplemental investor presentation on our website, which we'll be referencing during our remarks. The supplemental investor presentation has been uploaded to the webcast as well for your reference. Pages four through seven of the presentation, you'll find key updates and earnings summary for the quarter.

[James Briggs, Chief Financial Officer at Lument Finance Trust]

For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, reported net loss to common stockholders of approximately $1,700,000 or $03 per share. We also reported distributable earnings of approximately $4,000,000 or $08 per share. A few items I'd like to highlight with regards to the Q1 interest income was $7,700,000 a decline from $9,400,000 recorded in Q4 of 'twenty four. The weighted average coupon and average outstanding UPB of the portfolio declined sequentially, largely due to declines in SOFR benchmark rate and the deleveraging of our secured financings. Exit fees were also lower as payoffs during Q1 totaled $55,000,000 as compared to $144,000,000 in Q4.

[James Briggs, Chief Financial Officer at Lument Finance Trust]

Company recognized approximately $700,000 of exit fees during Q1 compared to approximately 1,100,000.0 in the prior quarter. Our total operating expenses, including fees to manager, were largely flat quarter on quarter as we recognized expenses of 2,600,000.0 in Q1 versus 2,800,000.0 in Q4. Approximately 450,000 of incentive fee that would have otherwise been incurred by the company as it relates to Q1 was waived by the manager. Primary difference between reported net income and distributable earnings was a $5,700,000 net increase in our allowance for credit losses. As of March 31, we had seven loans risk rated to five, including three assets newly downgraded to five in q one.

[James Briggs, Chief Financial Officer at Lument Finance Trust]

All seven loans are collateralized. Six of the loans are collateralized by multifamily assets, one by seniors. Greg will provide a bit more detail in his remarks. We evaluated these seven five rated loans individually to determine whether asset specific reserves for credit losses were necessary. And after analysis of the underlying collateral, we increased our specific reserves to $11,100,000 as of March 31, an increase of $7,300,000 versus the prior quarter.

[James Briggs, Chief Financial Officer at Lument Finance Trust]

General reserve for credit losses decreased by $1,600,000 during the period, primarily driven by payoffs of performing loans, loan modifications and the move of certain assets to specific evaluation. We ended the first quarter with an unrestricted cash balance of $64,000,000 and our investment capacity through our two secured financings was fully deployed. The CRE CLO securitization transaction we issued in 2021 provided effective leverage of 75 to our loan assets at a weighted average cost of funds of SOFR plus 173 basis points. The LMS financing completed in 2023 provided the portfolio with effective leverage of 81% at a weighted average cost of funds of SOFR plus three fourteen basis points. On a combined basis, the two securitizations provided our portfolio with effective leverage of 77% and a weighted average cost of funds of SOFR plus two twenty five basis points as of quarter end. The company's total equity at the end of the quarter was approximately $232,000,000 Total book value of common stock was approximately $172,000,000 or $3.29 per share, decreasing sequentially from $3.4 as of December 31, driven primarily by the increase in the allowance for credit losses. I will now turn the call over to Greg Halbert to provide details on the company's investment activity and portfolio performance during the quarter. Greg?

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

Thank you, Jim. During the first quarter, LFT experienced a modest $55,000,000 of loan payoffs. As referenced in Jim Flynn's earlier remarks, approximately $31,000,000 of these payoffs were within LMS. And although these principal repayments were eligible for reinvestment into new loan assets, After much deliberation and with the understanding that the portfolio currently in the transitory phase as we work to line up new secured financing sources, our team made the prudent executive decision to intentionally partially pay down a portion of the LMF bond in order to provide us additional cushion in satisfying the overcollateralization test as required by the LMF indenture. As of March 31, our portfolio consisted of 61 floating one sixty one floating rate note loans with an aggregate unpaid principal balance of approximately $1,000,000,000 1 hundred percent of the portfolio was indexed to one month SOFR, and 92% of the portfolio was collateralized by multifamily properties.

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

As of the end of the first quarter, our portfolio had a weighted average note floating rate of SOFR plus three fifty five basis points and an unamortized aggregate purchase discount of $3,000,000 The weighted average remaining term of our book as of quarter end was approximately forty months, assuming all available extensions are executed by our borrowers. As of March 31, approximately 60% of the loans in our portfolio were risk rated at three or better compared to 64% in the prior quarter. Our weighted average risk rating quarter on quarter remained flat at 3.5. We had seven loan assets risk rated five with an aggregate principal amount of approximately $108,000,000 or approximately 11% of the unpaid principal balance of our investment portfolio. One was a $15,000,000 loan collateralized by two multifamily properties in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

This loan asset was risk rated five due to monetary default. During Q1, the company recognized approximately $300,000 of cash received from the borrower as a reduction in our carrying basis of this loan. Another five risk rated asset was a $20,000,000 loan collateralized by multifamily property in Orlando, Florida that was in monetary default. During q one, the company recognized approximately 400,000 in interest from this loan. The third five risk rated asset was a $15,000,000 loan collateralized by a multifamily property in San Antonio, Texas that was in technical default.

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

This asset was foreclosed on within the 2021 FL-one CLO structure subsequent to quarter end. The fourth five risk rated asset was a $10,500,000 loan collateralized by a multifamily property in Colorado Springs, Colorado that was in monetary default. The fifth five risk rated asset was a $11,500,000 loan collateralized by a multifamily property in Houston, Texas that was in monetary default. The sixth five risk rated asset was a $24,500,000 loan collateralized by a multifamily property in Clarkson, Georgia that was in monetary default. And finally, the seven five risk rated asset was a $12,000,000 loan collateralized by a multifamily property in Celanthe, Michigan that was in monetary default.

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

During the first quarter, we were successful in achieving positive outcomes on two of the six assets that were five risk rated as of December 31. These included a $32,000,000 loan collateralized by a multi family property in Dallas, Texas, and a $6,000,000 loan collateralized by a multi family property in Orlando, Florida. In one of these cases, our loan was assumed and approximately $2,000,000 of our loan principal was paid down by the new borrower sponsor. In the other case, we provided a three month forbearance and agreed to extend the loan until November. Monthly debt service payments on our loan have since resumed as anticipated.

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

We had not previously recorded any specific reserves on either of these two resolved assets. We diligently continue to engage with our loan borrowers and seek constructive resolutions with respect to our more challenged credit. We expect to proactively explore all strategies available to us, and we remain confident that the deep experience of our asset management team and broad capabilities of our manager and its affiliates will allow us to take advantage in whatever steps are necessary to preserve and recover recovery value. We expect to leverage our experienced asset management team to maximize recovery through modifications, foreclosure, and potential REO operation. As we move through these resolutions, we may provide nonmarket financing to experienced sponsors to maximize expectations for repayment.

[Greg Calvert, President at Lument Finance Trust]

And with that, I will pass it back to Jim Flynn for closing remarks and questions.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Thank you, Greg. I'd like to thank everyone for joining and appreciate your time and interest in the platform. I look forward to answering some questions and we'll ask the operator to open the line.

[Operator]

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. And And your first question comes from Jason Weaver with Jones Trading. Please go ahead.

[Jason Weaver, Managing Director - Equity Research at Jones Trading]

Hi, guys. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. First, can you talk about what you're seeing? Can you characterize the pipeline today? As well as a follow-up, is there a level of net originations that you need to see through the rest of the year to maintain the current dividend capacity?

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Well, the second question frankly is related more to payoffs. And there's not I wouldn't put it as we have assets that we could put into that have been recently originated at Lumint and continue to originate. So we'll have assets to deploy into LFT when there's capacity. So there's not I'm not really concerned at an origination level. Now, if volatility kind of continued in the way that we've seen over the past forty five, sixty days, that would likely reduce the opportunities from where we think they will be.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

But I don't think it dries up like we've seen in various points over the last couple of years. So from an origination standpoint, I think we're in pretty good shape. Whether we need a couple hundred million or 500,000,000, I think we'll be able to have the assets to replenish LFT as needed. In terms of the types of opportunities we're seeing on the origination side, Continue to see there's attractive assets on the lease up level, new construction, newer assets, those are certainly most desirable. From a credit standpoint, they tend to be priced tighter as we've seen relatively high competition for those assets.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

I would say a modest slowdown in recapping and bridge to bridge type of deals that we've seen a little bit more of over the last couple of quarters. That largely tracks with kind of what we've seen in our own portfolio. Those have there's some for the right sponsor in the right market, you can achieve a premium there, but definitely seeing a little slowdown in that side on the construction and lease up, continue to see those opportunities. But as I stated in my remarks, deliveries have been on the decline, relative decline. And so over time, those opportunities will start to decrease.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

But I do think we'll see some turnover in the wall of maturities that we've been talking about now for two or three years where we're to see some resolutions and I think, opportunities for reinvestment into assets by new sponsors. All right. Thank you for that color.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Steve Delaney with Citizens GMP. Please go ahead.

[Steven Delaney, Analyst at Citizens JMP Securities, LLC]

Good morning, Jim and team, and nice to meet you, Greg. I'm interested in your your comments about financing. Now you mentioned, obviously, looking at the CLO market, which has been your sort of traditional vehicle for your semi permanent financing on the portfolio. But I picked up in your tone, Jim, that there are other financing options out there, whether it's product credit, whether it's banks that might give you a more custom or flexible interim type of facility. Did I hear am I on the right track there that there might be something to do before you do your next CLO?

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Yeah, I think yes, there are definitely opportunities in the market, really both from banks and private credit. Obviously, the bank providers are more closely structured like traditional warehouses with some different terms, you know, and, you know, some flexibility on what how long assets can stay on the line, those types of things, which which make them, you know, more attractive than a traditional kind of repo. So we're definitely looking at both, as you say, potentially as an interim step and likely something that we would want to keep permanently to maintain flexibility if we can achieve the right flexibility there. The CLL market broadly still remains the most attractive financing, in our opinion, for floating rate multifamily assets. Occasionally, we've seen the capital markets being disrupted either through lack of or no availability on the investor side or, you know, gapping on the bond spreads.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

But today, you know, we've seen continued interest. I know you've seen several deals here in the market in the last couple of weeks that, in our opinion, have either priced kind of in line with where we might expect or, in some cases, talks of maybe even better than we expected. And that suggests that there's a lot of capital on the side by looking to get into the deploy into the CLO space. So it's hard to replace a permanent vehicle like a CLO securitization. So that will continue to be our primary focus.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

But I do think there are a lot of or not saying there are a lot of providers that are offering alternatives and flexibility. And look, this is a derivative of the market continuing to extend loans, business plans taking longer, new sponsors stepping into older deals. Those types of things have provided an opportunity to lenders on the back leverage side to offer some competing financing to the traditional securitization market.

[Steven Delaney, Analyst at Citizens JMP Securities, LLC]

Understood. And I appreciate those comments. And just as far as your problem loans that are under asset management, seven loans, 180,000,000. Can you comment if there's any those things take each one is a different story, Different borrower. But as far as and you may have new fabricated loans or by the end of the year.

[Steven Delaney, Analyst at Citizens JMP Securities, LLC]

It's fluid process. But are there Sure. Is the market such and your relationship with these borrowers, do you anticipate any near term resolutions, say between now and the next three to six months, do you think some of these will be resolved and go away? Or is it more a matter of just incremental increases in the V rated bucket until we see a larger turnaround the market?

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

I would answer that. I would say, one, there's certainly possibility of and personally, I do see the potential there for there to be resolutions in the next three to six months. As we've seen over the past several quarters, we've continued to have those. So, do I think that that is a real possibility? Yes, I do.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

However, as you know, the market has been, you know, it's been choppy and, you know, sponsorship is really a key. Common theme that we've seen among assets, obviously business plans didn't pan out the way that people thought. That's clear. But in many cases due to, you know, what happened with the timing of acquisitions and expectations around rental growth, not achieving those even if there were some positive growth. But what we've seen the whether these assets that we're talking about here or even in prior quarters is typically a sponsor just basically coming to the conclusion either voluntarily or often involuntarily that they don't have the capital to improve the asset in a way that is the most ideal situation.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

And so when that happens, the lack of investment into these assets, particularly those of older vintage, deterioration happens quickly. So, you know, the way that we envision, you know, potential outcomes in those situations is for us to gain control of the asset either directly or bringing in a new sponsor that is a no quantity of ours, potentially providing incremental capital, maybe non market financing to a quality sponsor, which would allow for the asset to go from where it is today in this deteriorating kind of property condition and general performance to something that has a greater value. So that's really the strategy here. You know, in terms of, as you know, portfolio has generally been declining as we delevered and maintain liquidity. So the, what I'll call the legacy portfolio, the number of opportunities for problem assets continues to decline as we work through those that are struggling.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

So whether it's this quarter or very soon, we feel like you could see the shift in the market where you're going to start to see, I think, just at LFT, but more broadly, a lot more resolutions to some of these assets that have remained outstanding for longer than lenders or sponsors anticipated.

[Steven Delaney, Analyst at Citizens JMP Securities, LLC]

Got it. Interesting. Well, appreciate those insights into market conditions that we can't observe from ARC. Thank you, Jim.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Thanks, Steve.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

[Christopher Nolan, SVP - Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc]

Hi. Thank you. Following up on Steve's questions on the rise in nonaccruals, is this a cash flow issue for the sponsors where the property is simply not generating enough AFFO to cover the interest?

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

It it is a cash flow broadly speaking, meaning I think it's it's true at the asset, but it's also true in the sponsor kind of investing in the property. And that cycle I won't you know, and that's not universal, but as a broad comment, you know, that's a bad cycle because as you don't reinvest in the asset, your cash flow deteriorates even further, your operations decline further. And that is the challenge that many of these sponsors face. And as a lender and our we have a very experienced and seasoned team around workout resolutions and also REO management. But if we don't control the asset, we continue to see that decline if there's not reinvestment going into the property.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

So it is a some combination of cash flow and management. And you know, it's I won't say it's a chicken and egg exactly, but there's certainly a correlation there. Obviously, the assets were generating significantly more cash flow. The management would likely be better or certainly if it weren't, it would be certainly masked.

[Christopher Nolan, SVP - Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc]

Okay. Well, on the March 20 call that you guys had for the fourth quarter, you used terms like strong sponsors, fundamentals remain strong, constrained supply, robust demand, resiliency, and rent trends. And given the rise in nonaccruals, it doesn't sound like that's the case. Am I wrong or what?

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

Well, I I I no. I think I think that is true in the market, and I think on on average, it is true in our portfolio. On a on a couple of these assets, you know, we've had sponsors not follow through on some of their stated goals and intentions at the asset. And from, as I said, in evaluating these deals, if sponsors decide that they're going to not continue to support the asset in the way that they have historically, that deterioration can happen very quickly. And on a couple of these, we think that's a part of the issue.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

We also feel that while the values today and the reserves are appropriate that, we are looking at scenarios that we think should have been better managed by a sponsor, and we think that we or someone else could do a better job.

[Christopher Nolan, SVP - Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc]

Okay. Thank you.

[Operator]

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call over to Jim Flynn for closing remarks.

[James Flynn, CEO at Lument Finance Trust]

I just want to thank everyone for continuing support of LST and joining us today, and we look forward to speaking again next quarter. Thank you all.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Andrew Tsang, MD - Corporate Development
• James Flynn, CEO
• James Briggs, Chief Financial Officer
• Greg Calvert, President

Analysts

• Jason Weaver, Managing Director - Equity Research at Jones Trading
• Steven Delaney, Analyst at Citizens JMP Securities, LLC
• Christopher Nolan, SVP - Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Inc