NASDAQ:TRVI Trevi Therapeutics Q1 2025 Earnings Report $6.26 +0.10 (+1.62%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$6.13 -0.13 (-2.08%) As of 05:18 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Trevi Therapeutics EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.09Consensus EPS -$0.13Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/ATrevi Therapeutics Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATrevi Therapeutics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/6/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, May 8, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTrevi Therapeutics' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, August 14, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, August 7, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Trevi Therapeutics Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Good afternoon, and welcome to the Trevy Therapeutics First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Various remarks that management makes during this conference call about the company's future expectations, plans and prospects constitute forward looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Operator00:00:47Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's most recent quarterly report on Form 10 Q, which the company filed with the SEC this afternoon. In addition, any forward looking statements represent the company's views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing the company's views as of any subsequent date. While the company may elect to update these forward looking statements at some point in the future, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to do so even if its views change. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Jennifer Good, Trevy's President and CEO. Please go ahead. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:01:32Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call and business update. Joining me today on this call are my colleagues Lisa Delfini, Trevy's Chief Financial James Casella, our Chief Development Officer and Farrell Simon, our Chief Commercial Officer. Lisa and I will make some comments on the business and financial results, and the team is happy to answer any questions that you may have. The strong momentum of 2024 at Trevy continued into the first quarter of twenty twenty five with the positive data readout from the Phase 2a RIVER trial in RCC patients and the completion of enrollment in the Phase 2b CORAL trial in IPF chronic cough patients. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:02:14I will discuss both of these programs in a bit more detail, but needless to say it has been an exciting few months for us. In March, we announced the data from our Phase 2a RIVER trial in patients with refractory chronic cough or RCC, which includes those with unexplained chronic cough. RCC is a debilitating disease that affects approximately two million to three million U. S. Patients and has no approved therapies in The U. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:02:40S. Importantly, there have been many drugs studied for this condition which have failed, all primarily peripherally acting agents with only one drug still in late stage development, GSK's camelapixant. Our hypothesis heading into the RIVER study was that our central and peripheral mechanism could change the outcome for RCC patients by having a larger effect as well as working across a broader range of cough counts than other peripheral only therapies in development. RCC is believed to result from cough hypersensitivity at the brain level and why we believe the central activity of our mechanism is important in differentiating. In the Phase IIa RIVOR study, Hiduvel met the primary endpoint with a statistically significant reduction in twenty four hour objective cough frequency, achieving a p value of less than 0.0001. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:03:33There was a 57% placebo adjusted reduction in cough from baseline and importantly showed the same strong effect across a broad range of cough counts, including patients with moderate and severe cough frequencies. In our top line announcement, we also showed two patient reported secondary endpoints in both cough severity and cough frequency that were highly statistically significant and corroborated the primary endpoint of the objective cough monitor. Since reporting those data, we have received the full data set and can confirm that all pre specified secondary endpoints in the study were statistically significant at the end of treatment. The RIVER data were important not only for potential therapeutic value to patients, but scientifically as well. Hadubio is the first mechanism to work in both patients with RCC and in IPF patients with chronic cough. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:04:27We believe this is evidence of the importance of the central mechanism underlying neurogenic chronic cough conditions and lays the groundwork for not having to do the enrichment strategies others have employed to show statistical significance in RCC. Turning now to our lead program in IPF patients who suffer from chronic cough. During the first quarter, we also completed the enrollment of the Phase 2b CORAL trial for the treatment of this condition. And in April, the last patient completed their last visit. This study enrolled approximately 160 patients in 10 countries and across 60 sites. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:05:05The team is now cleaning the data and preparing for database lock. So we remain on track for top line data this quarter. We are excited to get the data from this dose ranging study and advance the development program in both chronic cough conditions of IPF and RCC. Speaking of the FDA, there's a lot going on there that all of us collectively are worrying about. I do want to convey our recent experience as I think it is important for all of us to monitor the current state of this important regulatory body. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:05:37We ask for guidance through a Type C request with written responses only on a technical matter in our program. I am pleased to report that the FDA met their goal date this month and provided us responses with clear guidance. We recognize the FDA staff has a lot going on and appreciate their ability to keep companies moving forward with their development programs. FDA feedback is critical during development and we hope that the new leadership will prioritize this aspect of the FDA's role. So to wrap up, all eyes here on the IPF chronic cost data. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:06:12This is a patient group that has had very little innovation and treatment options over the past ten years, especially when it comes to improving their day to day lives of living with IPF. As a side note, we are planning on being quite active at ATS in San Francisco in a couple of weeks. I will be there with several of my colleagues, so if you plan to attend, please let me know. We are hosting a KOL panel featuring both IPF experts and an RCC doctor for investors and analysts and already have quite good attendance. We plan to share new insights from the full RCC data set, which we will release online after as well. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:06:49We will also be participating in a dinner with investors and will be actively attending sessions at the conference. Unfortunately, our RCC data came too late to make it into the late breaker timelines for this conference. However, we plan to submit abstracts for analyses from both the RIVER and CORAL studies for the European Respiratory Society meeting in September. I will now turn it over to Lisa to review our financial results, then we will open it up for any questions you may have. Lisa DelfiniChief Financial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:07:16Thank you, Jennifer, and good afternoon, everyone. The full financial results for the three months ended 03/31/2025 can be found in our press release issued ahead of this call and our 10 Q, which was filed with the SEC today after the market closed. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we reported a net loss of $10,400,000 compared to a net loss of $10,900,000 for the same quarter in 2024. R and D expenses were $7,800,000 during the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $8,800,000 in the same quarter of 2024. The reduction was primarily due to decreased costs related to our human abuse potential study, which was actively enrolling in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Lisa DelfiniChief Financial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:07:58This was partially offset by an increase in personnel related expenses due to increased headcount. G and A expenses increased to 3,700,000 during the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $3,100,000 in the same period of 2024, primarily due to an increase in personnel related expenses. As of 03/31/2025, our cash and investments totaled $103,300,000 which gives us runway into the fourth quarter of twenty twenty six. We plan to use this cash to complete our ongoing Phase 2b CORAL trial of the DUVO for chronic cough in patients with IPF and based on this data will determine the development path forward in our programs and the related financing needs. During the first four months of this year, we had a total of 7.9 million common stock warrant exercises. Lisa DelfiniChief Financial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:08:45We currently have about 1,900,000 common stock warrants that remain outstanding. Our current fully diluted shares outstanding are approximately 137,000,000, which includes 101,700,000.0 shares outstanding, those 1,900,000.0 common stock warrants, about $23,200,000 pre funded warrants and approximately $10,000,000 stock options. This concludes our prepared remarks. I will now turn the call back over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:09:13Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To withdraw your question, please press then 2. Due to the number of participants on the call, questions will be limited to one per caller and any relevant follow-up to your question. If you have any other questions, you may get back in the queue. Operator00:09:43Our first question comes from Faisal Khorshi of Leerink. Please go ahead. Faisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink Partners00:09:55Hey, thank you for taking the question. Just wanted to ask, can you remind us for the CORAL readout, what would you see as a kind of encouraging or positive readout both on the efficacy side and on the safety side? And is that like meeting the statistical bar or is there anything kind of beyond that as well? And then I have a follow-up as well. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:10:16Thanks, Russell, for the question. I think for this trial because there's been so little, it's been such a difficult condition and there's really nothing for these patients. We powered this study fast and to be able to move forward. And I think unlike RCC when there were other programs we had to consider as far as moving forward. For this program, a statistically significant positive trial, we will keep moving forward in development. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:10:42So that's the bar for us for success. I think on the safety side, just continuing no sort of unusual adverse events that we didn't see, no safety signals, which we would already know at this point. So I'm comfortable we sort of crossed that bar. We've also shared before that our discontinuations are less than 10%. So I think level perspective, I think we'll look at obviously sort of the AE profile and things, but we've seen a lot of that so far and there's nothing jumping out as unusual here. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:11:13So really, think it's just a matter of having positive data here and what it looks like. Faisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink Partners00:11:19Got it. Great. And then can you remind us like what did the next catalyst for the company look like sort of in like the year or so like coming out of the CORAL readout? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:11:29So, Bethel, I'm going to a little bit kick that can down the road because once we get the IPF data, I think we'll be in a better position to lay out the catalyst path forward. I mean, we've talked about, we've got to get to the FDA and see them based off the IPF results assuming they're successful. Jim and Farrell are doing some work around gearing up for running a basket trial in interstitial lung disease, which we can talk more about. And I think once we get the IPF data and we're clear sort of on the path forward, we'll lay out a good catalyst track coming out of our IPF data. Faisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink Partners00:12:01That's great. Thank you for taking the questions and look forward to seeing you in San Francisco. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:12:06Great. Thanks, Sasol. Operator00:12:08Our next question comes from Annabel Samimy of Stifel. Please go ahead. Annabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial Corp00:12:15Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just following up on the discontinuation rate you mentioned, it was less than 10%. Can you just remind us what you powered for? And was this powering based on overall discontinuations or just discontinuations based on adverse events? Annabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial Corp00:12:34And then just a follow on that. Just after the positive data in Canal and River and positive SSRE, what is it that, in your mind still presents the biggest challenge for you or uncertainty going into this ILD study I'm sorry, IPF study? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:12:50I'll let Jim answer the statistical question. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:12:53Yes. So we had powered for a 30% discontinuation rate for the study and obviously we came in a lot less than that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:03Yes. And I think Annabel to your point, I think really which is how much risk is left. I think all of us never stop worrying about these trials. I do think we had good Phase 2a results. RCC was obviously corroborating. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:17The SSRE, I think, was comforting. But this is a complicated trial. They're tough patients. It's in 60 different sites across 10 countries. I think Jim never stops worrying about every aspect of this trial. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:30So it'll be nice when we turn over the card for sure. And it's such an important indication that I think we all feel the burden of that. But no, we're feeling good about it heading into the readout. Annabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial Corp00:13:41Okay, great. Thank you. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:43Yeah, thank you. Operator00:13:46Our next question comes from Leland Gershell of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Leland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:13:54Hey. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking our questions. I will keep myself to one question. Curious, Jennifer, you know, it's been about maybe a bit over a year since you saw the publication of data from the PACIFY study of low dose controlled release morphine and IPF chronic cough, which had shown, I think, a fairly modest twenty percent improvement in cough counts. Leland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:14:18Just wondering, since time has left, feedback or reflection you've had from the physician community on those data and any potential role of that substance for use in IPF chronic cough? Thanks. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:14:34Yes. No, it's a great question, Leland. So the PASICEPY study was a single site study run-in The UK by Doctor. Phil Molyanu. He's also the lead investigator in our IPF trial, very well respected guy. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:14:48It basically showed a 40% drug effect from a mu agonist essentially, but a zero placebo effect, which was probably artificial. That's sort of a function of single site in his patients, I think. As you know in our data sets we've seen between a 6774% drug effect. So a bigger effect. I think the community feels like we do which is the kappa side of our mechanism is important here. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:14Clearly it's sort of almost doubling the effect size. I think morphine also has other issues. You have to keep the dosing low. It's got respiratory depression. It's got addiction potential with it. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:26And so I've heard people ask this question at various panels. And I think for all these doctors, any ability to move people to something that's not a Schedule II substance and doesn't have the issues around respiratory depression is going to be a better alternative for them. The fact that it's got very much better efficacy is just a bonus. So I think while morphine was interesting, it validates the mechanism. I think that our drugs continue to perform better. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:51Jim, you're a CNS guy, anything you would want to add to that? James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:54No, I think that summarizes it. I think it really maybe shows maybe the limitation of that particular drug in this space. And I think the comment of 0% placebo response always raises questions about maybe the trial design or the single center nature of that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:16:12Yeah, fair enough. Thanks for the question. Leland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:16:17In West Coast. Operator00:16:20Our next question comes from Serge Belanger of Needham and Co. Please go ahead. John GioncoEquity Research at Needham & Company00:16:27Hi, good afternoon. This is John on for Serge today. Thanks for taking our question. Just regarding the respiratory physiology study, just curious if it's still on track to finish in the second half this year. And I believe you guys have been contemplating implementing a one hundred and eight milligram dose in the study. John GioncoEquity Research at Needham & Company00:16:49Just curious if any updates have been made since March. Thanks. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:16:54Hi, this is Jim. So I think we're on track to keep that timeline. I think the study is ongoing and we should be okay with that timeline. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:04Yeah. And we're covering our clinical doses in that, John. We're comfortable this will answer the question. Thank you. And just a reminder to everyone on that point, we really need this data when we go to talk to FDA next about the program forward. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:24So that's kind of what we're working against here and we feel comfortable we'll be able to do that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:29Go ahead, Ariel. Operator00:17:31Our next question comes from Deepa Njama of Jones Trading. Please go ahead. Debanjana ChatterjeeDirector at Jones Trading00:17:37Hi, thanks for taking my question. So could you provide us any additional color on what data points we can expect at ATS from this additional data from River that we are getting? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:50Yes, happy to do that. Hi, Deb and Jonah. We're still kind of finalizing the presentation, but I think we're going to talk a little bit about some of the questions we've been getting from the sell side and also investors, which is a little bit around sort of the time period. So a little more analysis around the timing of AEs, when they occurred, the discontinuations, what drove those. We're going to show a few patients vignettes from the trials. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:18:16People came in, long they've had cough, what happened during the trial. We're going to show data around the Lifestar cough questionnaire, which is a QOL questionnaire. And then I think if we can pull this together, we're going to show the treatment period effect of the crossover. So we're doing some work around that now. We know there was no treatment period effect, but we do get questions about what the effect size looks for both in each treatment period. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:18:41So that's our current plan. Jim and I don't want to take up too much of the time. We'll probably talk for fifteen, twenty minutes. But we have an amazing panel, thank you, Leland, who's going to moderate it with Doctor. Toby Mayer, who's probably the world's leading expert in ILD, Nazzia Chaudhry, who's actually an investigator in our IPF trial, amazing woman as well. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:19:03And then Doctor. Dispen and Gaidis, who many of you have heard speak, is sort of the leading authority in The U. S. On RCC. So we'll have a nice open discussion with them and sort of open up the room and Leland will moderate through that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:19:15So that's the plan for that time. And gotten very good response to that. So should have a nice full room for that. Debanjana ChatterjeeDirector at Jones Trading00:19:23Thank you so much. Very helpful and look forward to seeing you in SF. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:19:27Yes, thank you. Us too. Operator00:19:31Our next question comes from Mayank Namsany of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:19:41Yes. Good afternoon, team. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the progress. On the RIVOR data follow-up, you're trying to figure out for the next steps, additional dose exploration work. Could you maybe talk your latest thinking on that, Jennifer? Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:19:58And then I guess a related question on the ILD study. Have you planned the protocol, the crossover versus the pad alarm design, how that should look like? And is there anything we can learn from the IPF chronic cough data set that would be helpful to also think about the ILD study probability of success? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:20:24Yes. So I'll take the first part, Jim, maybe you can take the second part and decide if you want to fold Farrell in. I think on the dose exploration, the next step for us, Mayak, we're waiting on that IPF data. It's an important data set, it's parallel arm. We do think there's synergies between RCC and IPF. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:20:40So Jim's team has been busy doing some planning and sort of synopsis and things like that. But we're going to wait and see the IPF data set and then decide the path forward sort of for both programs forward. I think Jim, Farrell, I'll turn it over to you guys to talk about ILDs and where you're at on thinking about that. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:20:57I'll talk about briefly what we're thinking about for the trial design, Farrell fulfilling some of the other commercial side of things and patient side of things. But I think the key is there's a lot of learnings from the crossover design that have been really used in these types of cost studies. We're definitely going to take advantage of that crossover design. We're going to follow the footpath of the IPF work that we've done. And so I think you can anticipate that we're going to run a similar type of trial. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:28I think the major question here is not really about the trial design or endpoints or things like that. It's really about the nature of the population. And Farrell and I have been looking at this from a couple of different dimensions and talking to KOLs, and Farrell has been looking at it from the commercial side. So I'll let him chime in on that piece, too. Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:47Thanks, Mike, for the question. Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:49When we look Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:50at the non IPF ILD population, there is one distinction that we're making different than the anti fibrotic. The anti fibrotic mainly look at this from a progressive pulmonary fibrosis. So they need to see a progressive phenotype to see a difference in FVC over time. That's different with a chronic cough therapy in this space. So we really need two measures as Jim was saying. Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:22:12We need a patient with ILD with fibrosis and we need one with chronic cough and the overlap of the two. And so that does expand that population, we're just better to finding that and we hope to provide more details on the data call for oral. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:22:27Yes, I would just add IPF is obviously a big trigger for that as well. So assuming the IPF trials positive, hopefully we can give a little more color around that. Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:22:37Yes. Super helpful. And just a quick follow-up to your comment on the recent FDA Type C meeting. Are you able to share the details of what it was about? And also, obviously, if your plans for next set of FDA engagement, I believe that would be the end of Phase II meeting for IP chronic cough. Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:22:59Thank you for taking my question. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:23:02Sure. On the technical matter, Mayank, it just has to do with validate the whole validation around the primary endpoint, same issue everybody knows around cost counting, clarifying what we need to do. So fortunately, the FDA thought about that and it's clear. I think Jim, I'll let you comment on sort of your thinking forward on FDA. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:23:19Yeah, I think it's very encouraging that this was, again, a very specific question. The FDA came in on time. They gave appropriate answers or clarifying answers for us. So that's a very encouraging sign for us. We will plan on having the appropriate meetings. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:23:40We expect that the FDA is going be engaged with us as we need to go to them for follow-up on both the RCC and the IPF programs. So fingers crossed that things remain stable there for all of us. Operator00:24:02Our next question comes from Kaveri Pullman of Clear Street. Please go ahead. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:24:09Yes. Good evening. Thanks for the updates and for taking my questions. I'm curious about your thoughts on long term patient outcomes and safety findings. The current plan does not seem to include FDA required long term patient safety monitoring protocols, even for the Phase III trial. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:24:31Have you received any feedback on that from the agency? Could decades of this safety data from the existing formulation serve as an acceptable proxy? James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:24:43Hi, this is Jim. So we actually have pretty good clarity around what the requirements are going to be for long term safety. The FDA has not only told others in the RCC space that fifty two weeks is an important time point as far as they're concerned. So we had planned on having fifty two weeks of safety when we submit the NDA. There's ways to do that in the Phase III program with separate long term extension trial. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:25:14So our intention is to make sure that we include fifty two weeks of safety. And of course, in that trial, we're also able to look at continued effects on costs. So I think it's in our plans and we'll be looking for that. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:25:32Okay. That's very helpful. And maybe going forward, ahead of, you know, running big Phase III trials, what are your current perspective on potential U. S. Or ex U. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:25:43S. Partnerships? Thanks for taking my questions. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:25:47Yes. I mean, we're always in strategic conversations. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:25:50I would say, are I think we're equipped and preparing for handling this ourselves in The U. S, sort of absent just to straight out buying the company. Farrell is always talking to various partners potentially for commercialization in Europe and Japan. And I think depending on the data and sort of timing, that's certainly on the table. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:26:15Got it. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:26:16Thank you. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:17Yeah. Thank you. Operator00:26:20Our next question comes from Ryan Deschner of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Analyst00:26:27Hi. Good afternoon. This is Anthony filling in for Ryan. We wanted to ask, have you seen any trends in the RIVER study in terms of patient baseline characteristics such as, like, background therapies or initial disease etiology? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:45It's probably too early to ask that, but I'll defer to We James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:49are digging in on all of James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:51the data. I can't tell you that I have an answer for that right now. It's clearly some of the analyses that we'll be putting together and preparing for presentations at some future meeting. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:27:03I mean, this drug, as you probably remember, Anthony, worked in literally everyone in a big way. So it's hard to see trends of maybe where it didn't work. But they are going sort of patient by patient, trying to understand what we can see here. Analyst00:27:17All right. Thank you very much. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:27:19Yeah, thank you. Operator00:27:22I'm not showing any further questions at this time. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference call back over to Jennifer Good for closing remarks. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:27:33Thank you. We look forward to the upcoming results of our Phase 2b CORAL trial this quarter and appreciate all of you joining today's call. We are available after the call for any follow-up questions that you may have. Thank you for joining. Operator00:27:47This conference call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & DirectorLisa DelfiniChief Financial OfficerJames CassellaChief Development OfficerFarrell SimonChief Commercial OfficerAnalystsFaisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink PartnersAnnabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial CorpLeland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.John GioncoEquity Research at Needham & CompanyDebanjana ChatterjeeDirector at Jones TradingMayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley SecuritiesKaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear StreetAnalystPowered by Key Takeaways Phase 2a RIVER trial in refractory chronic cough met its primary endpoint with a 57% placebo-adjusted reduction in 24-hour objective cough frequency (p < 0.0001) and all prespecified secondary endpoints were statistically significant, underscoring the importance of the central and peripheral mechanism. Enrollment in the Phase 2b CORAL trial for chronic cough in IPF patients is complete, with approximately 160 patients across 60 sites in 10 countries, and topline data expected this quarter. A Type C meeting with the FDA on technical matters around cough frequency endpoints delivered on-time written guidance, reinforcing agency support and informing Trevy’s development pathway. For Q1 2025, Trevy reported a net loss of $10.4 M versus $10.9 M year-ago, R&D expenses declined, and cash and investments of $103.3 M provide runway into Q4 2026. The company will present full RIVER data at ATS with a KOL panel and submit abstracts for both RIVER and CORAL at ERS, while evaluating a potential basket trial in interstitial lung disease post-IPF readout. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTrevi Therapeutics Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipants Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Trevi Therapeutics Earnings HeadlinesTrevi Therapeutics' (TRVI) Buy Rating Reiterated at Needham & Company LLCMay 23, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comTrevi Therapeutics Announces Additional Analyses from Phase 2a RIVER Trial of Haduvio in Patients with Refractory Chronic CoughMay 20, 2025 | prnewswire.comTrump’s treachery Trump’s Final Reset Inside the shocking plot to re-engineer America’s financial system…and why you need to move your money now.May 28, 2025 | Porter & Company (Ad)Trevi Therapeutics, Inc. 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Email Address About Trevi TherapeuticsTrevi Therapeutics (NASDAQ:TRVI), a clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company, focuses on the development and commercialization of therapy Haduvio for the treatment of chronic cough in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis (IPF) and refractory chronic cough (RCC) conditions targeting the central and peripheral nervous systems. The company is developing Haduvio, an oral extended-release formulation of nalbuphine, which is in phase 2b Cough Reduction in IPF with nalbuphine ER (CORAL) clinical trial for treatment of chronic cough in patients with IPF; phase 2a Refractory Chronic Cough Improvement Via NAL ER (RIVER) clinical trial for reducing chronic cough in RCC patients; phase 2 clinical trial in patients with pruritus; phase 2b/3 clinical trial in patients with prurigo nodularis. It has a license agreement with Endo Pharmaceuticals Inc. to develop and commercialize products incorporating nalbuphine hydrochloride in any formulation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Good afternoon, and welcome to the Trevy Therapeutics First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Various remarks that management makes during this conference call about the company's future expectations, plans and prospects constitute forward looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Operator00:00:47Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's most recent quarterly report on Form 10 Q, which the company filed with the SEC this afternoon. In addition, any forward looking statements represent the company's views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing the company's views as of any subsequent date. While the company may elect to update these forward looking statements at some point in the future, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to do so even if its views change. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Jennifer Good, Trevy's President and CEO. Please go ahead. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:01:32Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call and business update. Joining me today on this call are my colleagues Lisa Delfini, Trevy's Chief Financial James Casella, our Chief Development Officer and Farrell Simon, our Chief Commercial Officer. Lisa and I will make some comments on the business and financial results, and the team is happy to answer any questions that you may have. The strong momentum of 2024 at Trevy continued into the first quarter of twenty twenty five with the positive data readout from the Phase 2a RIVER trial in RCC patients and the completion of enrollment in the Phase 2b CORAL trial in IPF chronic cough patients. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:02:14I will discuss both of these programs in a bit more detail, but needless to say it has been an exciting few months for us. In March, we announced the data from our Phase 2a RIVER trial in patients with refractory chronic cough or RCC, which includes those with unexplained chronic cough. RCC is a debilitating disease that affects approximately two million to three million U. S. Patients and has no approved therapies in The U. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:02:40S. Importantly, there have been many drugs studied for this condition which have failed, all primarily peripherally acting agents with only one drug still in late stage development, GSK's camelapixant. Our hypothesis heading into the RIVER study was that our central and peripheral mechanism could change the outcome for RCC patients by having a larger effect as well as working across a broader range of cough counts than other peripheral only therapies in development. RCC is believed to result from cough hypersensitivity at the brain level and why we believe the central activity of our mechanism is important in differentiating. In the Phase IIa RIVOR study, Hiduvel met the primary endpoint with a statistically significant reduction in twenty four hour objective cough frequency, achieving a p value of less than 0.0001. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:03:33There was a 57% placebo adjusted reduction in cough from baseline and importantly showed the same strong effect across a broad range of cough counts, including patients with moderate and severe cough frequencies. In our top line announcement, we also showed two patient reported secondary endpoints in both cough severity and cough frequency that were highly statistically significant and corroborated the primary endpoint of the objective cough monitor. Since reporting those data, we have received the full data set and can confirm that all pre specified secondary endpoints in the study were statistically significant at the end of treatment. The RIVER data were important not only for potential therapeutic value to patients, but scientifically as well. Hadubio is the first mechanism to work in both patients with RCC and in IPF patients with chronic cough. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:04:27We believe this is evidence of the importance of the central mechanism underlying neurogenic chronic cough conditions and lays the groundwork for not having to do the enrichment strategies others have employed to show statistical significance in RCC. Turning now to our lead program in IPF patients who suffer from chronic cough. During the first quarter, we also completed the enrollment of the Phase 2b CORAL trial for the treatment of this condition. And in April, the last patient completed their last visit. This study enrolled approximately 160 patients in 10 countries and across 60 sites. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:05:05The team is now cleaning the data and preparing for database lock. So we remain on track for top line data this quarter. We are excited to get the data from this dose ranging study and advance the development program in both chronic cough conditions of IPF and RCC. Speaking of the FDA, there's a lot going on there that all of us collectively are worrying about. I do want to convey our recent experience as I think it is important for all of us to monitor the current state of this important regulatory body. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:05:37We ask for guidance through a Type C request with written responses only on a technical matter in our program. I am pleased to report that the FDA met their goal date this month and provided us responses with clear guidance. We recognize the FDA staff has a lot going on and appreciate their ability to keep companies moving forward with their development programs. FDA feedback is critical during development and we hope that the new leadership will prioritize this aspect of the FDA's role. So to wrap up, all eyes here on the IPF chronic cost data. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:06:12This is a patient group that has had very little innovation and treatment options over the past ten years, especially when it comes to improving their day to day lives of living with IPF. As a side note, we are planning on being quite active at ATS in San Francisco in a couple of weeks. I will be there with several of my colleagues, so if you plan to attend, please let me know. We are hosting a KOL panel featuring both IPF experts and an RCC doctor for investors and analysts and already have quite good attendance. We plan to share new insights from the full RCC data set, which we will release online after as well. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:06:49We will also be participating in a dinner with investors and will be actively attending sessions at the conference. Unfortunately, our RCC data came too late to make it into the late breaker timelines for this conference. However, we plan to submit abstracts for analyses from both the RIVER and CORAL studies for the European Respiratory Society meeting in September. I will now turn it over to Lisa to review our financial results, then we will open it up for any questions you may have. Lisa DelfiniChief Financial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:07:16Thank you, Jennifer, and good afternoon, everyone. The full financial results for the three months ended 03/31/2025 can be found in our press release issued ahead of this call and our 10 Q, which was filed with the SEC today after the market closed. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we reported a net loss of $10,400,000 compared to a net loss of $10,900,000 for the same quarter in 2024. R and D expenses were $7,800,000 during the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $8,800,000 in the same quarter of 2024. The reduction was primarily due to decreased costs related to our human abuse potential study, which was actively enrolling in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Lisa DelfiniChief Financial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:07:58This was partially offset by an increase in personnel related expenses due to increased headcount. G and A expenses increased to 3,700,000 during the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to $3,100,000 in the same period of 2024, primarily due to an increase in personnel related expenses. As of 03/31/2025, our cash and investments totaled $103,300,000 which gives us runway into the fourth quarter of twenty twenty six. We plan to use this cash to complete our ongoing Phase 2b CORAL trial of the DUVO for chronic cough in patients with IPF and based on this data will determine the development path forward in our programs and the related financing needs. During the first four months of this year, we had a total of 7.9 million common stock warrant exercises. Lisa DelfiniChief Financial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:08:45We currently have about 1,900,000 common stock warrants that remain outstanding. Our current fully diluted shares outstanding are approximately 137,000,000, which includes 101,700,000.0 shares outstanding, those 1,900,000.0 common stock warrants, about $23,200,000 pre funded warrants and approximately $10,000,000 stock options. This concludes our prepared remarks. I will now turn the call back over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:09:13Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To withdraw your question, please press then 2. Due to the number of participants on the call, questions will be limited to one per caller and any relevant follow-up to your question. If you have any other questions, you may get back in the queue. Operator00:09:43Our first question comes from Faisal Khorshi of Leerink. Please go ahead. Faisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink Partners00:09:55Hey, thank you for taking the question. Just wanted to ask, can you remind us for the CORAL readout, what would you see as a kind of encouraging or positive readout both on the efficacy side and on the safety side? And is that like meeting the statistical bar or is there anything kind of beyond that as well? And then I have a follow-up as well. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:10:16Thanks, Russell, for the question. I think for this trial because there's been so little, it's been such a difficult condition and there's really nothing for these patients. We powered this study fast and to be able to move forward. And I think unlike RCC when there were other programs we had to consider as far as moving forward. For this program, a statistically significant positive trial, we will keep moving forward in development. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:10:42So that's the bar for us for success. I think on the safety side, just continuing no sort of unusual adverse events that we didn't see, no safety signals, which we would already know at this point. So I'm comfortable we sort of crossed that bar. We've also shared before that our discontinuations are less than 10%. So I think level perspective, I think we'll look at obviously sort of the AE profile and things, but we've seen a lot of that so far and there's nothing jumping out as unusual here. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:11:13So really, think it's just a matter of having positive data here and what it looks like. Faisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink Partners00:11:19Got it. Great. And then can you remind us like what did the next catalyst for the company look like sort of in like the year or so like coming out of the CORAL readout? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:11:29So, Bethel, I'm going to a little bit kick that can down the road because once we get the IPF data, I think we'll be in a better position to lay out the catalyst path forward. I mean, we've talked about, we've got to get to the FDA and see them based off the IPF results assuming they're successful. Jim and Farrell are doing some work around gearing up for running a basket trial in interstitial lung disease, which we can talk more about. And I think once we get the IPF data and we're clear sort of on the path forward, we'll lay out a good catalyst track coming out of our IPF data. Faisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink Partners00:12:01That's great. Thank you for taking the questions and look forward to seeing you in San Francisco. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:12:06Great. Thanks, Sasol. Operator00:12:08Our next question comes from Annabel Samimy of Stifel. Please go ahead. Annabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial Corp00:12:15Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just following up on the discontinuation rate you mentioned, it was less than 10%. Can you just remind us what you powered for? And was this powering based on overall discontinuations or just discontinuations based on adverse events? Annabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial Corp00:12:34And then just a follow on that. Just after the positive data in Canal and River and positive SSRE, what is it that, in your mind still presents the biggest challenge for you or uncertainty going into this ILD study I'm sorry, IPF study? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:12:50I'll let Jim answer the statistical question. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:12:53Yes. So we had powered for a 30% discontinuation rate for the study and obviously we came in a lot less than that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:03Yes. And I think Annabel to your point, I think really which is how much risk is left. I think all of us never stop worrying about these trials. I do think we had good Phase 2a results. RCC was obviously corroborating. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:17The SSRE, I think, was comforting. But this is a complicated trial. They're tough patients. It's in 60 different sites across 10 countries. I think Jim never stops worrying about every aspect of this trial. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:30So it'll be nice when we turn over the card for sure. And it's such an important indication that I think we all feel the burden of that. But no, we're feeling good about it heading into the readout. Annabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial Corp00:13:41Okay, great. Thank you. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:13:43Yeah, thank you. Operator00:13:46Our next question comes from Leland Gershell of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Leland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:13:54Hey. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking our questions. I will keep myself to one question. Curious, Jennifer, you know, it's been about maybe a bit over a year since you saw the publication of data from the PACIFY study of low dose controlled release morphine and IPF chronic cough, which had shown, I think, a fairly modest twenty percent improvement in cough counts. Leland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:14:18Just wondering, since time has left, feedback or reflection you've had from the physician community on those data and any potential role of that substance for use in IPF chronic cough? Thanks. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:14:34Yes. No, it's a great question, Leland. So the PASICEPY study was a single site study run-in The UK by Doctor. Phil Molyanu. He's also the lead investigator in our IPF trial, very well respected guy. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:14:48It basically showed a 40% drug effect from a mu agonist essentially, but a zero placebo effect, which was probably artificial. That's sort of a function of single site in his patients, I think. As you know in our data sets we've seen between a 6774% drug effect. So a bigger effect. I think the community feels like we do which is the kappa side of our mechanism is important here. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:14Clearly it's sort of almost doubling the effect size. I think morphine also has other issues. You have to keep the dosing low. It's got respiratory depression. It's got addiction potential with it. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:26And so I've heard people ask this question at various panels. And I think for all these doctors, any ability to move people to something that's not a Schedule II substance and doesn't have the issues around respiratory depression is going to be a better alternative for them. The fact that it's got very much better efficacy is just a bonus. So I think while morphine was interesting, it validates the mechanism. I think that our drugs continue to perform better. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:51Jim, you're a CNS guy, anything you would want to add to that? James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:15:54No, I think that summarizes it. I think it really maybe shows maybe the limitation of that particular drug in this space. And I think the comment of 0% placebo response always raises questions about maybe the trial design or the single center nature of that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:16:12Yeah, fair enough. Thanks for the question. Leland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:16:17In West Coast. Operator00:16:20Our next question comes from Serge Belanger of Needham and Co. Please go ahead. John GioncoEquity Research at Needham & Company00:16:27Hi, good afternoon. This is John on for Serge today. Thanks for taking our question. Just regarding the respiratory physiology study, just curious if it's still on track to finish in the second half this year. And I believe you guys have been contemplating implementing a one hundred and eight milligram dose in the study. John GioncoEquity Research at Needham & Company00:16:49Just curious if any updates have been made since March. Thanks. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:16:54Hi, this is Jim. So I think we're on track to keep that timeline. I think the study is ongoing and we should be okay with that timeline. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:04Yeah. And we're covering our clinical doses in that, John. We're comfortable this will answer the question. Thank you. And just a reminder to everyone on that point, we really need this data when we go to talk to FDA next about the program forward. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:24So that's kind of what we're working against here and we feel comfortable we'll be able to do that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:29Go ahead, Ariel. Operator00:17:31Our next question comes from Deepa Njama of Jones Trading. Please go ahead. Debanjana ChatterjeeDirector at Jones Trading00:17:37Hi, thanks for taking my question. So could you provide us any additional color on what data points we can expect at ATS from this additional data from River that we are getting? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:17:50Yes, happy to do that. Hi, Deb and Jonah. We're still kind of finalizing the presentation, but I think we're going to talk a little bit about some of the questions we've been getting from the sell side and also investors, which is a little bit around sort of the time period. So a little more analysis around the timing of AEs, when they occurred, the discontinuations, what drove those. We're going to show a few patients vignettes from the trials. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:18:16People came in, long they've had cough, what happened during the trial. We're going to show data around the Lifestar cough questionnaire, which is a QOL questionnaire. And then I think if we can pull this together, we're going to show the treatment period effect of the crossover. So we're doing some work around that now. We know there was no treatment period effect, but we do get questions about what the effect size looks for both in each treatment period. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:18:41So that's our current plan. Jim and I don't want to take up too much of the time. We'll probably talk for fifteen, twenty minutes. But we have an amazing panel, thank you, Leland, who's going to moderate it with Doctor. Toby Mayer, who's probably the world's leading expert in ILD, Nazzia Chaudhry, who's actually an investigator in our IPF trial, amazing woman as well. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:19:03And then Doctor. Dispen and Gaidis, who many of you have heard speak, is sort of the leading authority in The U. S. On RCC. So we'll have a nice open discussion with them and sort of open up the room and Leland will moderate through that. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:19:15So that's the plan for that time. And gotten very good response to that. So should have a nice full room for that. Debanjana ChatterjeeDirector at Jones Trading00:19:23Thank you so much. Very helpful and look forward to seeing you in SF. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:19:27Yes, thank you. Us too. Operator00:19:31Our next question comes from Mayank Namsany of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:19:41Yes. Good afternoon, team. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the progress. On the RIVOR data follow-up, you're trying to figure out for the next steps, additional dose exploration work. Could you maybe talk your latest thinking on that, Jennifer? Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:19:58And then I guess a related question on the ILD study. Have you planned the protocol, the crossover versus the pad alarm design, how that should look like? And is there anything we can learn from the IPF chronic cough data set that would be helpful to also think about the ILD study probability of success? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:20:24Yes. So I'll take the first part, Jim, maybe you can take the second part and decide if you want to fold Farrell in. I think on the dose exploration, the next step for us, Mayak, we're waiting on that IPF data. It's an important data set, it's parallel arm. We do think there's synergies between RCC and IPF. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:20:40So Jim's team has been busy doing some planning and sort of synopsis and things like that. But we're going to wait and see the IPF data set and then decide the path forward sort of for both programs forward. I think Jim, Farrell, I'll turn it over to you guys to talk about ILDs and where you're at on thinking about that. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:20:57I'll talk about briefly what we're thinking about for the trial design, Farrell fulfilling some of the other commercial side of things and patient side of things. But I think the key is there's a lot of learnings from the crossover design that have been really used in these types of cost studies. We're definitely going to take advantage of that crossover design. We're going to follow the footpath of the IPF work that we've done. And so I think you can anticipate that we're going to run a similar type of trial. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:28I think the major question here is not really about the trial design or endpoints or things like that. It's really about the nature of the population. And Farrell and I have been looking at this from a couple of different dimensions and talking to KOLs, and Farrell has been looking at it from the commercial side. So I'll let him chime in on that piece, too. Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:47Thanks, Mike, for the question. Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:49When we look Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:21:50at the non IPF ILD population, there is one distinction that we're making different than the anti fibrotic. The anti fibrotic mainly look at this from a progressive pulmonary fibrosis. So they need to see a progressive phenotype to see a difference in FVC over time. That's different with a chronic cough therapy in this space. So we really need two measures as Jim was saying. Farrell SimonChief Commercial Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:22:12We need a patient with ILD with fibrosis and we need one with chronic cough and the overlap of the two. And so that does expand that population, we're just better to finding that and we hope to provide more details on the data call for oral. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:22:27Yes, I would just add IPF is obviously a big trigger for that as well. So assuming the IPF trials positive, hopefully we can give a little more color around that. Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:22:37Yes. Super helpful. And just a quick follow-up to your comment on the recent FDA Type C meeting. Are you able to share the details of what it was about? And also, obviously, if your plans for next set of FDA engagement, I believe that would be the end of Phase II meeting for IP chronic cough. Mayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. Riley Securities00:22:59Thank you for taking my question. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:23:02Sure. On the technical matter, Mayank, it just has to do with validate the whole validation around the primary endpoint, same issue everybody knows around cost counting, clarifying what we need to do. So fortunately, the FDA thought about that and it's clear. I think Jim, I'll let you comment on sort of your thinking forward on FDA. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:23:19Yeah, I think it's very encouraging that this was, again, a very specific question. The FDA came in on time. They gave appropriate answers or clarifying answers for us. So that's a very encouraging sign for us. We will plan on having the appropriate meetings. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:23:40We expect that the FDA is going be engaged with us as we need to go to them for follow-up on both the RCC and the IPF programs. So fingers crossed that things remain stable there for all of us. Operator00:24:02Our next question comes from Kaveri Pullman of Clear Street. Please go ahead. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:24:09Yes. Good evening. Thanks for the updates and for taking my questions. I'm curious about your thoughts on long term patient outcomes and safety findings. The current plan does not seem to include FDA required long term patient safety monitoring protocols, even for the Phase III trial. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:24:31Have you received any feedback on that from the agency? Could decades of this safety data from the existing formulation serve as an acceptable proxy? James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:24:43Hi, this is Jim. So we actually have pretty good clarity around what the requirements are going to be for long term safety. The FDA has not only told others in the RCC space that fifty two weeks is an important time point as far as they're concerned. So we had planned on having fifty two weeks of safety when we submit the NDA. There's ways to do that in the Phase III program with separate long term extension trial. James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:25:14So our intention is to make sure that we include fifty two weeks of safety. And of course, in that trial, we're also able to look at continued effects on costs. So I think it's in our plans and we'll be looking for that. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:25:32Okay. That's very helpful. And maybe going forward, ahead of, you know, running big Phase III trials, what are your current perspective on potential U. S. Or ex U. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:25:43S. Partnerships? Thanks for taking my questions. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:25:47Yes. I mean, we're always in strategic conversations. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:25:50I would say, are I think we're equipped and preparing for handling this ourselves in The U. S, sort of absent just to straight out buying the company. Farrell is always talking to various partners potentially for commercialization in Europe and Japan. And I think depending on the data and sort of timing, that's certainly on the table. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:26:15Got it. Kaveri PohlmanManaging Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Clear Street00:26:16Thank you. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:17Yeah. Thank you. Operator00:26:20Our next question comes from Ryan Deschner of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Analyst00:26:27Hi. Good afternoon. This is Anthony filling in for Ryan. We wanted to ask, have you seen any trends in the RIVER study in terms of patient baseline characteristics such as, like, background therapies or initial disease etiology? Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:45It's probably too early to ask that, but I'll defer to We James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:49are digging in on all of James CassellaChief Development Officer at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:26:51the data. I can't tell you that I have an answer for that right now. It's clearly some of the analyses that we'll be putting together and preparing for presentations at some future meeting. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:27:03I mean, this drug, as you probably remember, Anthony, worked in literally everyone in a big way. So it's hard to see trends of maybe where it didn't work. But they are going sort of patient by patient, trying to understand what we can see here. Analyst00:27:17All right. Thank you very much. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:27:19Yeah, thank you. Operator00:27:22I'm not showing any further questions at this time. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference call back over to Jennifer Good for closing remarks. Jennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & Director at Trevi Therapeutics Inc00:27:33Thank you. We look forward to the upcoming results of our Phase 2b CORAL trial this quarter and appreciate all of you joining today's call. We are available after the call for any follow-up questions that you may have. Thank you for joining. Operator00:27:47This conference call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJennifer GoodCo-Founder, CEO, President & DirectorLisa DelfiniChief Financial OfficerJames CassellaChief Development OfficerFarrell SimonChief Commercial OfficerAnalystsFaisal KhurshidSenior Research Analyst - Emerging Immunology at Leerink PartnersAnnabel SamimyManaging Director at Stifel Financial CorpLeland GershellMD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.John GioncoEquity Research at Needham & CompanyDebanjana ChatterjeeDirector at Jones TradingMayank MamtaniSenior Managing Director at B. 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