NYSE:FPI Farmland Partners Q1 2025 Earnings Report $10.10 +0.11 (+1.10%) As of 05/9/2025 03:59 PM Eastern Earnings History Farmland Partners EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.05Consensus EPS $0.06Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPSN/AFarmland Partners Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.97 millionExpected Revenue$9.49 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.52 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AFarmland Partners Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/7/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, May 8, 2025Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsFarmland Partners' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Farmland Partners Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. My name is Amy, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Farmland Partners First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings a It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Luca Fabri, the President and CEO with Farmland Partners. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, Amy. Good morning, and welcome everybody to Farmland Partners first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call and webcast. We truly appreciate your taking the time to join us for these calls because we see them as a very important opportunity to share with you our thinking and our strategy in a format less formal and more interactive than public filings and press releases. I will now turn the, the call over to our GC, Christine Garrison, for some customary preliminary remarks. Christine? Speaker 200:01:03Thank you, Luca, and thank you to everyone on the call. The press release announcing our first quarter earnings was distributed after market closed yesterday. The supplemental package has been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website under the subheader Events and Presentations. For those who listen to the recording of this presentation, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today, 05/08/2025, and will not be updated subsequent to this call. During this call, we will make forward looking statements, including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our identified and potential acquisitions and dispositions, impact of acquisitions, dispositions and financing activities, business development opportunities as well as comments on our outlook for our business, rent and the broader agricultural markets. Speaker 200:01:50We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, including net operating income, FFO, adjusted FFO, EBITDAre and adjusted EBITDAre. Definitions of these non GAAP measures as well as reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in the company's press release announcing first quarter twenty twenty five earnings, which is available on our website, farmlandpartners.com, and is furnished as an exhibit to our current report on Form eight ks dated 05/07/2025. Listeners are cautioned that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, many of which are difficult to predict and generally beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations, and we advise listeners to review the risk factors discussed in our press release distributed yesterday and in documents we have filed with or furnished to the SEC. I would now like to turn the call to our Executive Chairman, Paul Pittman. Speaker 200:02:46Paul? Speaker 300:02:48Thank you, Christine, and good morning, everyone. I'm going to answer a sort of series of questions that different investors have emailed me over the past few days. And I'll basically just do them in the order that they have come in, or the prevalence of the question because we get a lot of the same questions. And this is a these conference calls is just a very good opportunity to answer questions like this without creating any sort of inside information issues. So, you know, one of the questions we're getting quite a bit is about tariffs and potentially about stagflation, which keeps getting talked about, and what might those effects be on the value of our portfolio or farmers in general. Speaker 300:03:32So let me let me start with tariffs because it's that's really a different answer for the two different issues. On tariffs, you know, look, getting in a battle with one of the largest food consumers in the world, meaning China, is never good for the export market in The United States. And, you know, food is one of the things we do export quite a bit of out of The US. That being said, you know, we've been through this before in the prior Trump administration. The reality is we are not in a huge surplus situation for the the basic foodstuffs in a worldwide basis. Speaker 300:04:15So anything China doesn't buy from us, they're likely to buy from someone else, Brazil, South Africa, Argentina, etcetera. And whoever used to be buying those crops from those countries will need to shift their purchasing to us. All in all, we've got kind of mediocre pricing for the key commodities in this right now. Not really bad, but it's certainly not as good as it was a few years ago. And so farmers are under some level of financial pressure. Speaker 300:04:54Another question that I get is rent increases. Mean, we're predicting that in this calendar year on the row crop side of the portfolio, we hope to eke out very modest increases in rents. But even that will be a bit of a challenge. The fact is the better way to think about rents is to look at kind of that three to five year long term rolling average. And so remember, we got 20% increases in a couple a couple of years ago, 15% in in a, you know, a couple of years ago in a different year. Speaker 300:05:29So we've got some very, very strong rent increases, and now we're in a a little more of a pause in terms of our ability to push rents. It'll come back. It always does, and we're not really concerned about it, but but that's the answer to that question. Stagflation. Now stagflation is a completely different story. Speaker 300:05:47The the last time we saw stagflation was in the nineteen seventies, a high inflation environment and a slow economy generally. That was that turbocharged land values. One of the probably the decade with the highest appreciation over the decade of farmland ever was the nineteen seventies. So if we get ourselves in a high inflation environment, it will be very, very, powerful for farmland. You know, it's my expression. Speaker 300:06:17You've all heard me say before, we're essentially gold with a coupon, and that's what farmland is. And so in an inflation environment, it'll be strong. Another question I'm getting is is how many transactions may we do this year if we decide to sell land? And the answer is we can do a total of approximately seven. There's some complicated tax rules under the REIT rules that relate to that. Speaker 300:06:42Ten thirty one exchange transactions are excluded, but big picture is we can do about seven transactions during the calendar year. Many of you may have seen that we won the case or we won part of the case in the appeals courts in Texas dating back on the road of fortune a sort of situation from long, long ago. We won that case pretty strongly. It may, in fact, be appealed. Basically, our view is that saber point, the the true perpetrator here in our opinion, frankly, has nothing left in their quiver except delay tactics. Speaker 300:07:26So I don't know if they'll appeal or not. Eventually, justice is coming from them, and we are gonna continue to pursue it. And we spent the big money already to get to where we are, and, we don't intend to kinda let them off the hook. There is a, a second part of that case that that got remanded. We anticipate, frankly, winning that. Speaker 300:07:48It's not a very complicated question. You can never say with a % certainty since it's the courts, but we certainly have the the overwhelming upper hand in that remanded piece of that case. California land values is another question I've got. You know, are they recovering? Because I've made relatively negative comments about California in recent conference calls. Speaker 300:08:11The answer is no. They they, unfortunately, are not recovering. They're not getting really any worse. You're starting to see capitulation on some sellers, which is a good thing. It's probably the the bottom of the market starting to get put in. Speaker 300:08:24And then at least the market will get open again, and they'll start to be transactions is what we believe is going on in California assets. It's still our California position is relatively large on the balance sheet, but essentially half of that position or almost half of that position is a single transaction we did long ago with Olum. That's a very long term lease, incredibly high quality properties with good water, good production, high returns that aren't very volatile to us, and and now additional solar income, which some of the other members of the team will talk about. So that you know, we're just we're not very you know, we we wish California was better, but it's just the part of California that's risky to us, which is the non Olin farm farms, is a relatively modest portion of our portfolio. We will, you know, frankly, continue to lessen our exposure to California for the reasons we've talked about in the past. Speaker 300:09:30NAV of the portfolio, I haven't directly addressed this in the last couple of conference calls, so a couple of people asked me, so I'll do it here. We would say that the portfolio today is in the mid fourteens, Just kinda connecting the dots and and to explain a little bit why we quit talking about it. The the value of your portfolio tracked quarter to quarter gets a little bit strange when you pay out a dollar 15 dividend. So we're lower than the last time I talked about this, but we, you know, gave you all a dollar 15 a share, which, you know, came from somewhere. Obviously reduced our the the overall asset value under current market prices of the portfolio. Speaker 300:10:14So we think we're in the kinda mid mid fourteens as portfolio value today. And then the final thing I wanna address, you'll hear more about this. You may have read it. One of the one of the items on our proxy did not pass. The item that did not pass is the compensation advisory vote. Speaker 300:10:35The reason it didn't pass, in our opinion, is that ISS recommended voting against it. By the way, it was 48.5 percent in favor, so it was close to passing. We firmly believe ISS has that recommendation wrong. You know, we we beg you as shareholders if you're gonna vote against management and board's recommendation. Remember that I, in particular, own as many shares as you do. Speaker 300:11:05We are not doing things that we think are detrimental to the value of shareholders because I am one of the top shareholders in the company, and we are, you know, honest people doing what we believe. Please call us before you vote against the recommendation because here are the facts. ISS recommended against that because we have a single trigger in the new CFO that we put in place about a year ago, Susan Landy. If you recall, she has an internal promotion after we laid off our prior CFO. We did it as a cost cutting measure, and you can all see this if you go back and look at the proxies. Speaker 300:11:52Susan makes materially less than the prior CFO, number one. She's gonna come to me for a salary increase after I finish the speech, unfortunately. But number two, she makes materially less than any other CFO amongst our peers. Materially less. Number three, her change of control payment is not even a whole number. Speaker 300:12:21It is point five times her prior compensation, meaning half a year. ISS is very formulaic and got this just wrong. And shareholders, without contacting us or thinking about it, voted went ahead and followed their recommendation, and that's why it failed. So I'm not gonna say anything more about that. If any investor would like to call and talk about it, we're happy to. Speaker 300:12:46But, you know, the ISS recommendation, you know, I don't know what they do. They they should be slightly more holistic. To recommend against the voting on that issue when we have what is probably one of the lower paid CFOs in the entire New York Stock Exchange is a is kind of ridiculous. So with that, I'm gonna turn it over, to Luca, to pick up on the performance of the quarter and other matters. Luca? Speaker 100:13:16Thank you, Paul. This this first quarter of this year was indeed very, strong in terms in terms of financial performance. I will let Susan Landy, who's already typing an email to Paul right now, asking for a for a salary increase, addressed the more more details about the performance. But it was enough of of a strong quarter to allow us to actually raise guidance by several cents for the full year. This reflects our also our fundamental belief that remains as strong as ever, that this is an exceptionally strong asset class, especially in times of uncertainty and turbulence as we are facing right now. Speaker 100:13:54You know, building on on Paul's comments, we live in a world of fundamental kind of minimal surpluses in food production. And looking forward down in the next year few few years and decades with the world population expect expected to expand and the ability to produce food not expanding nearly at the same rate, we still need to produce every single bushel or kilogram or ton of food that we can on a worldwide basis. The world simply cannot afford the production the food production of the largest food producer in the world, The United States, to, be marked up significantly or taken out of the global market altogether. So, again, remember that while, farmer profitability in the short term might be influenced by trade wars, if not offset by the federal government as done in prior administrations. The fundamental values that all the of the land that we own are really dependent on long term kind of expectations about world population, food demand, and so on and so forth. Speaker 100:15:14Our strategy for this year, again, also remains fundamentally unchanged. We will continue to deploy capital selectively when it makes sense to do so. For example, we've done some small acquisitions. We've deployed capital in our loan program. They were both opportunities that we found very accretive even though relatively minor in terms of size. Speaker 100:15:41And we will continue to evaluate these positions of from our portfolio using proceeds to for general corporate purposes, including also buying back stock. You know, when we look at our, at the gap between the NAV as Paul indicated and our stock price, we continue to believe that, our own stock is effectively the cheapest farmland we can buy, and we will pro probably continue to do so, as appropriate, and as it makes sense. Speaker 300:16:16With that, I will now turn the Speaker 100:16:18call over to our CFO, Susan Landy, for her overview of the company's financial performance. Susan? Speaker 400:16:24Thank you, Luca. I'm gonna cover a few items today, including the summary of the three months ended 03/31/2025, a review of capital structure, and updated guidance for 2025. I'll be referring to the supplemental package, which is available in the investor relations section of our website under the subheader events and presentations. First, I'll share a few financial metrics that appear that appear on page two. For the three months ended 03/31/2025, net income was 2,100,000.0 or, 3¢ per share available to common shareholders, which was higher than the same period for 2024 largely due to higher interest income on loans under the FBI loan program, proceeds from a solar lease arrangement with a tenant, and lower interest expense and gains on dispositions of two properties that occurred in the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Speaker 400:17:15AFFO was 2,300,000.0 or 5¢ per weighted average share, which was lower than the same period for 2024. Next, we will review some of the operating expenses and other items shown on page five. As a result of reductions in debt of a hundred and 89,400,000.0 that occurred in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, interest expense decreased 2,400,000.0 for the three months ended in the first quarter compared to the same period in the prior year. In addition, the dispositions in 2024 resulted in lower property operating expenses and depreciation expenses in the current year. G and a expenses decreased primarily due to lower travel and consulting fees. Speaker 400:17:59Next, moving on to page 12, there are a few capital structure items to point out. We had undrawn capacity on the lines of credit of approximately hundred and 67,000,000 at the end of q one of twenty twenty five. We have no debt subject to interest rate resets in 2025. And as a result of our swap, we don't have any exposure to variable interest rates. Page 14 breaks down different revenue categories with comments at the bottom to describe the differences between periods. Speaker 400:18:29A few points that I'd like to highlight are, as expected, fixed farm rent decreased due to dispositions in 2024. Solar, wind, and recreation increased primarily due to proceeds from a solar lease arrangement with a tenant, but that was also partially offset by dispositions that occurred in 2024. Management fees and interest income increased primarily due to the increase in loan issuances under the FPI loan program. Direct operations is a combination of crop sales, crop insurance, and cost of goods sold. It was up relative to 2024 largely due to the increased price of walnuts, but partially offset by higher cost on water and maintenance of permanent planting. Speaker 400:19:10Page 15 is our updated outlook for 2025. Assumptions are listed at the bottom of the page. On the revenue side, changes from the February guidance include an increase in solar, wind, and recreation due to the proceeds from the solar lease arrangement with the tenant, an increase in management fees and interest income as a result of increased activity under the loan program, and, an increase in other items due to higher amortization of points income for the loans under the loan program. On the expense side, changes from the February guidance include an increase in g and a for payroll related costs and allowances for losses on additional, on an additional loan under the loan program, an increase in the gainloss on disposition of assets due to two property dispositions that closed in q one of the current year, and an increase in interest expense due to a higher weighted average interest rate. The forecasted range of AFFO is 13,300,000.0 to 15,900,000.0 or 28¢ to 34¢ per share, which is an increase of 3¢ and 4¢ on the low and high end of the range respectively from the last quarter. Speaker 400:20:22This summarizes where we stand today. We will keep you updated as we progress through the year. This wraps up our comments this morning. Thank you all for participating. Operator, you can now begin the q and a session. Operator00:20:36Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. As a reminder, to enter the queue, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you're called upon to ask Your first question comes from the line of Craig Kucera with Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:21:08Hey, good morning guys. Noted that the other revenue was up to the amortization of the FPI loan points. Can you give us a sense of what that amount is amortized here in the first quarter and what the schedule looks like going forward? Speaker 300:21:25Luca or Susan, you want to take that question? I may make a general comment. Do you want me to make a general comment while you look up the facts? Speaker 400:21:33You can make a general comment while we we need to look up the information. Speaker 300:21:37Yep. So we we have made a you you know, one of the one of the things we are managing toward as we gradually shrink this portfolio is maintaining our cash flows such that our AFFO and ability to pay dividends stays high. And and frankly, it's higher than it's it's been in the most of the life of the company right now. What that means is we have shifted some of our investment to making a few more loans as opposed to property purchases because the loans, of course, give us quite a bit higher current yield than owning a farm. We don't get the appreciation, of course, but we do get a higher current yield, and it's helping us maintain our cash flow. Speaker 300:22:15So we have made a a series of loans with relatively high interest rates. The headline interest rate is often in the neighborhood of 10% or so, eight to 10 usually. And then we usually have points as well. Many of these loans are reasonably short term at less than a couple of years, so the amortization pace of those points is pretty fast. It has a meaningful impact on quarters. Speaker 300:22:41And, you know, some of these loans may be getting us in the high teens, even almost 20% total return per annum. With that, Susan, if you wanna give any more specific information, feel free. Speaker 400:22:56Yes. So the, we are expecting to recognize, amortization of points income for the year approximately $2,400,000. Speaker 500:23:10Okay. Great. And then just to follow-up on the increase in the guide on the solar, wind, and recreational rent. You mentioned that there was an arrangement with a solar tenant. Is that recurring situation where we might see that in '26, or is that more of a one timer? Speaker 300:23:28It's it's a little of both, Craig. Let me answer the question. So so just for everybody, it's not a solar tenant. It's in fact, a large ag tenant who asked to turn some of the property into solar for their own usage and to offset their own electricity costs for running pumps and other items on the farm. We agreed with that tenant they could do that, but only under the circumstances that we got a share of the benefit of having turned a portion of the farm into solar. Speaker 300:24:06Just so happens with the amount of electricity they avoided paying for and electricity pricing. We got a little bit of windfall. So it is recurring, but it won't be at the same scale as my prediction, that we saw in this most, recent year. We're, like, in the ups we're in the start up phase, so there's probably slightly more than a twelve month period in the in the amount that we we were running through the p and l. And, you know, and, obviously, it was a little bit speculative until it got running, so we didn't, you know, predict it. Speaker 300:24:41We just took it when it got paid, or at least known. So so recurring, yes, but not quite this quantity. Speaker 600:24:51Got it. Speaker 500:24:53And Just a housekeeping item. I saw that you repaid the April 25 debt maturities. Did you use the line of credit, or were those, refinanced at similar sorts of instruments? Speaker 400:25:04Yes. I can take that. Yep. We we did draw on our line of credit partially to repay that, but we also used funds from our operations to pay for another portion of it. We we we drew about $14,000,000, and then the the delta was just from operations. Speaker 500:25:26Got it. Just one more for me. I know you had smaller acquisitions and dispositions this quarter, but can you give us any color directionally on on how cap rates have moved maybe year to date versus maybe the last six months of last year? Speaker 300:25:43Cap rates on land values on the row crop portfolio are basically staying the same. The market for row crop is not as frothy as it was, but, you know, we're not often you know, when I say frothy, I mean the number of of $20,000 plus sales in Illinois, for example. But look. We're making a a sale to a sophisticated party, and frankly, farmer buyers are sophisticated usually, unless they're in a fight with a neighbor over a piece of land, you know, right next door. And, certainly, buyers, you know, the other institutional buyers who buy from us are disciplined. Speaker 300:26:22We never were getting those frothy numbers anyway. We're getting really strong numbers. We might get 18,000 an acre, for example, on a on a high quality when we farm, but we're not getting 20. So that very top top end is kinda gone, but that's not the real market, never was. We never treated it as the real market. Speaker 300:26:40The you know? But the mark the market in that, you know, super high quality land, you know, and our portfolio is ever more concentrated toward the best stuff in the Midwest. The market's very strong. And, you know, occasionally a bargain because it's just knocked out as many buyers as it did two years ago. You know? Speaker 300:26:59So we'll that's how we end up buying farms now. Speaker 100:27:01And then we see something that we Speaker 300:27:03think is going at, frankly, pretty cheap, and we'd step in and buy it. And that's what we do. But the market's market's in the same place. California, as I said, that market has been largely closed, and I and and what we're starting to see is is capitulation on the part of some sellers starting to beat some transactions out there. And, you know, that that is incredibly property and sort of county specific in the California Central Valley. Speaker 300:27:30If you're in one of the areas with really good water, prices are still pretty strong, not much going on in terms of of value declines. If you're in one of the areas that's water constrained and and facing what they call sigma regulation, that's their groundwater regulation regime, you're seeing prices decline, and we're now kinda finding out how far they've declined in those markets as we start to see a few transactions happen. Speaker 500:28:01Okay. Thanks for the color. Appreciate it. Operator00:28:08Your next question comes from the line of John Massocca with RB Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:28:19Thanks. It's B. Riley Securities. A quick question on the buyback. Just given where the cash levels are today, I mean, are you thinking about that versus doing to hold some dry powder, if you will, for any kind of attractive land investments that may come your way, particularly given, you know, some of the uncertainty in the macro environment. Speaker 300:28:44So so Luca Luca alluded to this. You know, today, when I say there's a bargain out there in the in the farmland world, that might be trading at a, you know, five or 10% below what we really think it's worth. You know, we think our stock, is, you know, trading at a, what, 25%, thirty % discount to what we think it's really worth. And so we're more likely to be stock buyback, focused than land purchase focused. Obviously, you got a balanced cost, you know, cost of money because, you know, we do have debt, so we could be paying off debt with the cash. Speaker 300:29:27But there is a serious bargain. You know, we sold a bunch of properties, for example. I would would certainly be advocating that quite a bit of that money go into buybacks, because, you know, there's just such a huge discount, to our to what we think the underlying value is at this point in time. And that, you know, that's driven as much by the, you know, the macro environment, you know, that we're facing with with, you know, sort of uncertainty in the marketplace overall. And when I say the marketplace, I don't mean farmland. Speaker 300:30:01I mean, the New York Stock and the Nasdaq. Speaker 600:30:05Okay. And then in terms of, you know, the portfolio and maybe future acquisitions, I mean, what's kind of the difference in the reaction to some of these tariff headwinds or tariff noise between, you know, some of the core row crop assets versus things in the permanent crop basis? And maybe, you know, it sounded like a lot of the stuff in California maybe is more to do with water than concerns about tariffs, but just was kind of interested because I feel like some of those tree nut, farms are a little more reliant on export. Speaker 300:30:39Actually, it's it's, to some degree, the other way around. So what you may see happen here, and it's it's crop by crop, but many of the specialty crops grown in The United States are consumed in The United States. We are, you know, a higher labor cost producer than many other agricultural regions on any sort of specialty crop that requires any level of handpicking or sorting. We're likely to have a higher cost, in the production. So as you see tariffs, I'll use avocados just as an example, you know, a huge amount of the avocados consumed in The United States come from Mexico. Speaker 300:31:20Those avocados are now more expensive unless they get exempted somehow from the tariff regime than were. You have to factor in the fact that the avocados from Mexico kinda hit the grocery store shelves at a slightly different calendar time than The US avocados. But, you know, a lot of those specialty crops have a chance to benefit, at least temporarily, from the increased tariff regime and face less composite competition, coming in from outside the country. Pistachios, in particular, would be another example. A lot of import a lot of competition from Iran and other places on pistachios. Speaker 300:32:01And, you know, you're gonna see a lot less of that competition, particularly from Iran. So so, you know, could see some benefit for your citrus. US grown citrus is almost entirely consumed inside The United States. US grown strawberries also almost entirely consumed inside The United States. So so probably a little bit of benefit there. Speaker 300:32:21Now remember, we don't think, and I don't think anybody thinks that the tariff regime will go on, in the current format, at least, for an extremely long period of time. So I don't know if that changes the value of those farms, but it may make the performance for this given year a little bit better. Hope that answers your question. Speaker 600:32:43No. I appreciate all that color. And then kind of last kind of balance sheet related one. The Farmer Mac facility here, you've got nothing outstanding on it. It matures in December. Speaker 600:32:55Is there a potential you just let that roll off? And is there some kind of fee saving potentially from that? Or given the spread on that facility, would want to keep that and renew it? Speaker 100:33:09I I think we're all Speaker 300:33:10you know, Susan, Luca, feel free to add to this, but I think we're likely likely to leave it in place. We leave it in place for a couple of reasons. We have the upcoming repayment of the preferred at some point early next year. But also, look, just having liquidity as a, you know, somewhat large public company is a good idea. It's, you know, rainy day money as I call it. Speaker 300:33:32And, you know, so what I I would say odds on that we will leave that in place, you know, maybe at a slightly different size or something like that, but it's probably going to continue, going forward. And Susan and Luca, if you have a different opinion, feel free to share it. But that's what I think. Speaker 100:33:52No. That that, you were right on point. You know, we see the, maintaining liquidity Speaker 600:33:57access Speaker 100:33:57to liquidity as a as an important element of our strategy that allows us, it gives us a lot of flexibility in capital deployment and, in balance sheet, kind of strategies. So we'll we'll be likely to renew it. Right. That makes sense. Speaker 600:34:16That's it for me. Thank you very much. Operator00:34:21Thank you. Alright. Thank you. It looks like there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Luca Fabri for closing remarks. Speaker 100:34:46Thank you, Amy, and thank you, everybody. We appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to updating you on our activities and results in the coming quarters. Have a great day. Operator00:34:56Thank you. That does conclude today's conference call. 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Email Address About Farmland PartnersFarmland Partners (NYSE:FPI) is an internally managed real estate company that owns and seeks to acquire high-quality North American farmland and makes loans to farmers secured by farm real estate. As of December 31, 2023, the Company owns and/or manages approximately 171,100 acres in 16 states, including Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas. In addition, the Company owns land and buildings for four agriculture equipment dealerships in Ohio leased to Ag Pro under the John Deere brand. The Company has approximately 26 crop types and over 100 tenants. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. My name is Amy, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Farmland Partners First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings a It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Luca Fabri, the President and CEO with Farmland Partners. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, Amy. Good morning, and welcome everybody to Farmland Partners first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call and webcast. We truly appreciate your taking the time to join us for these calls because we see them as a very important opportunity to share with you our thinking and our strategy in a format less formal and more interactive than public filings and press releases. I will now turn the, the call over to our GC, Christine Garrison, for some customary preliminary remarks. Christine? Speaker 200:01:03Thank you, Luca, and thank you to everyone on the call. The press release announcing our first quarter earnings was distributed after market closed yesterday. The supplemental package has been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website under the subheader Events and Presentations. For those who listen to the recording of this presentation, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today, 05/08/2025, and will not be updated subsequent to this call. During this call, we will make forward looking statements, including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our identified and potential acquisitions and dispositions, impact of acquisitions, dispositions and financing activities, business development opportunities as well as comments on our outlook for our business, rent and the broader agricultural markets. Speaker 200:01:50We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, including net operating income, FFO, adjusted FFO, EBITDAre and adjusted EBITDAre. Definitions of these non GAAP measures as well as reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in the company's press release announcing first quarter twenty twenty five earnings, which is available on our website, farmlandpartners.com, and is furnished as an exhibit to our current report on Form eight ks dated 05/07/2025. Listeners are cautioned that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, many of which are difficult to predict and generally beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations, and we advise listeners to review the risk factors discussed in our press release distributed yesterday and in documents we have filed with or furnished to the SEC. I would now like to turn the call to our Executive Chairman, Paul Pittman. Speaker 200:02:46Paul? Speaker 300:02:48Thank you, Christine, and good morning, everyone. I'm going to answer a sort of series of questions that different investors have emailed me over the past few days. And I'll basically just do them in the order that they have come in, or the prevalence of the question because we get a lot of the same questions. And this is a these conference calls is just a very good opportunity to answer questions like this without creating any sort of inside information issues. So, you know, one of the questions we're getting quite a bit is about tariffs and potentially about stagflation, which keeps getting talked about, and what might those effects be on the value of our portfolio or farmers in general. Speaker 300:03:32So let me let me start with tariffs because it's that's really a different answer for the two different issues. On tariffs, you know, look, getting in a battle with one of the largest food consumers in the world, meaning China, is never good for the export market in The United States. And, you know, food is one of the things we do export quite a bit of out of The US. That being said, you know, we've been through this before in the prior Trump administration. The reality is we are not in a huge surplus situation for the the basic foodstuffs in a worldwide basis. Speaker 300:04:15So anything China doesn't buy from us, they're likely to buy from someone else, Brazil, South Africa, Argentina, etcetera. And whoever used to be buying those crops from those countries will need to shift their purchasing to us. All in all, we've got kind of mediocre pricing for the key commodities in this right now. Not really bad, but it's certainly not as good as it was a few years ago. And so farmers are under some level of financial pressure. Speaker 300:04:54Another question that I get is rent increases. Mean, we're predicting that in this calendar year on the row crop side of the portfolio, we hope to eke out very modest increases in rents. But even that will be a bit of a challenge. The fact is the better way to think about rents is to look at kind of that three to five year long term rolling average. And so remember, we got 20% increases in a couple a couple of years ago, 15% in in a, you know, a couple of years ago in a different year. Speaker 300:05:29So we've got some very, very strong rent increases, and now we're in a a little more of a pause in terms of our ability to push rents. It'll come back. It always does, and we're not really concerned about it, but but that's the answer to that question. Stagflation. Now stagflation is a completely different story. Speaker 300:05:47The the last time we saw stagflation was in the nineteen seventies, a high inflation environment and a slow economy generally. That was that turbocharged land values. One of the probably the decade with the highest appreciation over the decade of farmland ever was the nineteen seventies. So if we get ourselves in a high inflation environment, it will be very, very, powerful for farmland. You know, it's my expression. Speaker 300:06:17You've all heard me say before, we're essentially gold with a coupon, and that's what farmland is. And so in an inflation environment, it'll be strong. Another question I'm getting is is how many transactions may we do this year if we decide to sell land? And the answer is we can do a total of approximately seven. There's some complicated tax rules under the REIT rules that relate to that. Speaker 300:06:42Ten thirty one exchange transactions are excluded, but big picture is we can do about seven transactions during the calendar year. Many of you may have seen that we won the case or we won part of the case in the appeals courts in Texas dating back on the road of fortune a sort of situation from long, long ago. We won that case pretty strongly. It may, in fact, be appealed. Basically, our view is that saber point, the the true perpetrator here in our opinion, frankly, has nothing left in their quiver except delay tactics. Speaker 300:07:26So I don't know if they'll appeal or not. Eventually, justice is coming from them, and we are gonna continue to pursue it. And we spent the big money already to get to where we are, and, we don't intend to kinda let them off the hook. There is a, a second part of that case that that got remanded. We anticipate, frankly, winning that. Speaker 300:07:48It's not a very complicated question. You can never say with a % certainty since it's the courts, but we certainly have the the overwhelming upper hand in that remanded piece of that case. California land values is another question I've got. You know, are they recovering? Because I've made relatively negative comments about California in recent conference calls. Speaker 300:08:11The answer is no. They they, unfortunately, are not recovering. They're not getting really any worse. You're starting to see capitulation on some sellers, which is a good thing. It's probably the the bottom of the market starting to get put in. Speaker 300:08:24And then at least the market will get open again, and they'll start to be transactions is what we believe is going on in California assets. It's still our California position is relatively large on the balance sheet, but essentially half of that position or almost half of that position is a single transaction we did long ago with Olum. That's a very long term lease, incredibly high quality properties with good water, good production, high returns that aren't very volatile to us, and and now additional solar income, which some of the other members of the team will talk about. So that you know, we're just we're not very you know, we we wish California was better, but it's just the part of California that's risky to us, which is the non Olin farm farms, is a relatively modest portion of our portfolio. We will, you know, frankly, continue to lessen our exposure to California for the reasons we've talked about in the past. Speaker 300:09:30NAV of the portfolio, I haven't directly addressed this in the last couple of conference calls, so a couple of people asked me, so I'll do it here. We would say that the portfolio today is in the mid fourteens, Just kinda connecting the dots and and to explain a little bit why we quit talking about it. The the value of your portfolio tracked quarter to quarter gets a little bit strange when you pay out a dollar 15 dividend. So we're lower than the last time I talked about this, but we, you know, gave you all a dollar 15 a share, which, you know, came from somewhere. Obviously reduced our the the overall asset value under current market prices of the portfolio. Speaker 300:10:14So we think we're in the kinda mid mid fourteens as portfolio value today. And then the final thing I wanna address, you'll hear more about this. You may have read it. One of the one of the items on our proxy did not pass. The item that did not pass is the compensation advisory vote. Speaker 300:10:35The reason it didn't pass, in our opinion, is that ISS recommended voting against it. By the way, it was 48.5 percent in favor, so it was close to passing. We firmly believe ISS has that recommendation wrong. You know, we we beg you as shareholders if you're gonna vote against management and board's recommendation. Remember that I, in particular, own as many shares as you do. Speaker 300:11:05We are not doing things that we think are detrimental to the value of shareholders because I am one of the top shareholders in the company, and we are, you know, honest people doing what we believe. Please call us before you vote against the recommendation because here are the facts. ISS recommended against that because we have a single trigger in the new CFO that we put in place about a year ago, Susan Landy. If you recall, she has an internal promotion after we laid off our prior CFO. We did it as a cost cutting measure, and you can all see this if you go back and look at the proxies. Speaker 300:11:52Susan makes materially less than the prior CFO, number one. She's gonna come to me for a salary increase after I finish the speech, unfortunately. But number two, she makes materially less than any other CFO amongst our peers. Materially less. Number three, her change of control payment is not even a whole number. Speaker 300:12:21It is point five times her prior compensation, meaning half a year. ISS is very formulaic and got this just wrong. And shareholders, without contacting us or thinking about it, voted went ahead and followed their recommendation, and that's why it failed. So I'm not gonna say anything more about that. If any investor would like to call and talk about it, we're happy to. Speaker 300:12:46But, you know, the ISS recommendation, you know, I don't know what they do. They they should be slightly more holistic. To recommend against the voting on that issue when we have what is probably one of the lower paid CFOs in the entire New York Stock Exchange is a is kind of ridiculous. So with that, I'm gonna turn it over, to Luca, to pick up on the performance of the quarter and other matters. Luca? Speaker 100:13:16Thank you, Paul. This this first quarter of this year was indeed very, strong in terms in terms of financial performance. I will let Susan Landy, who's already typing an email to Paul right now, asking for a for a salary increase, addressed the more more details about the performance. But it was enough of of a strong quarter to allow us to actually raise guidance by several cents for the full year. This reflects our also our fundamental belief that remains as strong as ever, that this is an exceptionally strong asset class, especially in times of uncertainty and turbulence as we are facing right now. Speaker 100:13:54You know, building on on Paul's comments, we live in a world of fundamental kind of minimal surpluses in food production. And looking forward down in the next year few few years and decades with the world population expect expected to expand and the ability to produce food not expanding nearly at the same rate, we still need to produce every single bushel or kilogram or ton of food that we can on a worldwide basis. The world simply cannot afford the production the food production of the largest food producer in the world, The United States, to, be marked up significantly or taken out of the global market altogether. So, again, remember that while, farmer profitability in the short term might be influenced by trade wars, if not offset by the federal government as done in prior administrations. The fundamental values that all the of the land that we own are really dependent on long term kind of expectations about world population, food demand, and so on and so forth. Speaker 100:15:14Our strategy for this year, again, also remains fundamentally unchanged. We will continue to deploy capital selectively when it makes sense to do so. For example, we've done some small acquisitions. We've deployed capital in our loan program. They were both opportunities that we found very accretive even though relatively minor in terms of size. Speaker 100:15:41And we will continue to evaluate these positions of from our portfolio using proceeds to for general corporate purposes, including also buying back stock. You know, when we look at our, at the gap between the NAV as Paul indicated and our stock price, we continue to believe that, our own stock is effectively the cheapest farmland we can buy, and we will pro probably continue to do so, as appropriate, and as it makes sense. Speaker 300:16:16With that, I will now turn the Speaker 100:16:18call over to our CFO, Susan Landy, for her overview of the company's financial performance. Susan? Speaker 400:16:24Thank you, Luca. I'm gonna cover a few items today, including the summary of the three months ended 03/31/2025, a review of capital structure, and updated guidance for 2025. I'll be referring to the supplemental package, which is available in the investor relations section of our website under the subheader events and presentations. First, I'll share a few financial metrics that appear that appear on page two. For the three months ended 03/31/2025, net income was 2,100,000.0 or, 3¢ per share available to common shareholders, which was higher than the same period for 2024 largely due to higher interest income on loans under the FBI loan program, proceeds from a solar lease arrangement with a tenant, and lower interest expense and gains on dispositions of two properties that occurred in the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Speaker 400:17:15AFFO was 2,300,000.0 or 5¢ per weighted average share, which was lower than the same period for 2024. Next, we will review some of the operating expenses and other items shown on page five. As a result of reductions in debt of a hundred and 89,400,000.0 that occurred in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, interest expense decreased 2,400,000.0 for the three months ended in the first quarter compared to the same period in the prior year. In addition, the dispositions in 2024 resulted in lower property operating expenses and depreciation expenses in the current year. G and a expenses decreased primarily due to lower travel and consulting fees. Speaker 400:17:59Next, moving on to page 12, there are a few capital structure items to point out. We had undrawn capacity on the lines of credit of approximately hundred and 67,000,000 at the end of q one of twenty twenty five. We have no debt subject to interest rate resets in 2025. And as a result of our swap, we don't have any exposure to variable interest rates. Page 14 breaks down different revenue categories with comments at the bottom to describe the differences between periods. Speaker 400:18:29A few points that I'd like to highlight are, as expected, fixed farm rent decreased due to dispositions in 2024. Solar, wind, and recreation increased primarily due to proceeds from a solar lease arrangement with a tenant, but that was also partially offset by dispositions that occurred in 2024. Management fees and interest income increased primarily due to the increase in loan issuances under the FPI loan program. Direct operations is a combination of crop sales, crop insurance, and cost of goods sold. It was up relative to 2024 largely due to the increased price of walnuts, but partially offset by higher cost on water and maintenance of permanent planting. Speaker 400:19:10Page 15 is our updated outlook for 2025. Assumptions are listed at the bottom of the page. On the revenue side, changes from the February guidance include an increase in solar, wind, and recreation due to the proceeds from the solar lease arrangement with the tenant, an increase in management fees and interest income as a result of increased activity under the loan program, and, an increase in other items due to higher amortization of points income for the loans under the loan program. On the expense side, changes from the February guidance include an increase in g and a for payroll related costs and allowances for losses on additional, on an additional loan under the loan program, an increase in the gainloss on disposition of assets due to two property dispositions that closed in q one of the current year, and an increase in interest expense due to a higher weighted average interest rate. The forecasted range of AFFO is 13,300,000.0 to 15,900,000.0 or 28¢ to 34¢ per share, which is an increase of 3¢ and 4¢ on the low and high end of the range respectively from the last quarter. Speaker 400:20:22This summarizes where we stand today. We will keep you updated as we progress through the year. This wraps up our comments this morning. Thank you all for participating. Operator, you can now begin the q and a session. Operator00:20:36Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. As a reminder, to enter the queue, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you're called upon to ask Your first question comes from the line of Craig Kucera with Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:21:08Hey, good morning guys. Noted that the other revenue was up to the amortization of the FPI loan points. Can you give us a sense of what that amount is amortized here in the first quarter and what the schedule looks like going forward? Speaker 300:21:25Luca or Susan, you want to take that question? I may make a general comment. Do you want me to make a general comment while you look up the facts? Speaker 400:21:33You can make a general comment while we we need to look up the information. Speaker 300:21:37Yep. So we we have made a you you know, one of the one of the things we are managing toward as we gradually shrink this portfolio is maintaining our cash flows such that our AFFO and ability to pay dividends stays high. And and frankly, it's higher than it's it's been in the most of the life of the company right now. What that means is we have shifted some of our investment to making a few more loans as opposed to property purchases because the loans, of course, give us quite a bit higher current yield than owning a farm. We don't get the appreciation, of course, but we do get a higher current yield, and it's helping us maintain our cash flow. Speaker 300:22:15So we have made a a series of loans with relatively high interest rates. The headline interest rate is often in the neighborhood of 10% or so, eight to 10 usually. And then we usually have points as well. Many of these loans are reasonably short term at less than a couple of years, so the amortization pace of those points is pretty fast. It has a meaningful impact on quarters. Speaker 300:22:41And, you know, some of these loans may be getting us in the high teens, even almost 20% total return per annum. With that, Susan, if you wanna give any more specific information, feel free. Speaker 400:22:56Yes. So the, we are expecting to recognize, amortization of points income for the year approximately $2,400,000. Speaker 500:23:10Okay. Great. And then just to follow-up on the increase in the guide on the solar, wind, and recreational rent. You mentioned that there was an arrangement with a solar tenant. Is that recurring situation where we might see that in '26, or is that more of a one timer? Speaker 300:23:28It's it's a little of both, Craig. Let me answer the question. So so just for everybody, it's not a solar tenant. It's in fact, a large ag tenant who asked to turn some of the property into solar for their own usage and to offset their own electricity costs for running pumps and other items on the farm. We agreed with that tenant they could do that, but only under the circumstances that we got a share of the benefit of having turned a portion of the farm into solar. Speaker 300:24:06Just so happens with the amount of electricity they avoided paying for and electricity pricing. We got a little bit of windfall. So it is recurring, but it won't be at the same scale as my prediction, that we saw in this most, recent year. We're, like, in the ups we're in the start up phase, so there's probably slightly more than a twelve month period in the in the amount that we we were running through the p and l. And, you know, and, obviously, it was a little bit speculative until it got running, so we didn't, you know, predict it. Speaker 300:24:41We just took it when it got paid, or at least known. So so recurring, yes, but not quite this quantity. Speaker 600:24:51Got it. Speaker 500:24:53And Just a housekeeping item. I saw that you repaid the April 25 debt maturities. Did you use the line of credit, or were those, refinanced at similar sorts of instruments? Speaker 400:25:04Yes. I can take that. Yep. We we did draw on our line of credit partially to repay that, but we also used funds from our operations to pay for another portion of it. We we we drew about $14,000,000, and then the the delta was just from operations. Speaker 500:25:26Got it. Just one more for me. I know you had smaller acquisitions and dispositions this quarter, but can you give us any color directionally on on how cap rates have moved maybe year to date versus maybe the last six months of last year? Speaker 300:25:43Cap rates on land values on the row crop portfolio are basically staying the same. The market for row crop is not as frothy as it was, but, you know, we're not often you know, when I say frothy, I mean the number of of $20,000 plus sales in Illinois, for example. But look. We're making a a sale to a sophisticated party, and frankly, farmer buyers are sophisticated usually, unless they're in a fight with a neighbor over a piece of land, you know, right next door. And, certainly, buyers, you know, the other institutional buyers who buy from us are disciplined. Speaker 300:26:22We never were getting those frothy numbers anyway. We're getting really strong numbers. We might get 18,000 an acre, for example, on a on a high quality when we farm, but we're not getting 20. So that very top top end is kinda gone, but that's not the real market, never was. We never treated it as the real market. Speaker 300:26:40The you know? But the mark the market in that, you know, super high quality land, you know, and our portfolio is ever more concentrated toward the best stuff in the Midwest. The market's very strong. And, you know, occasionally a bargain because it's just knocked out as many buyers as it did two years ago. You know? Speaker 300:26:59So we'll that's how we end up buying farms now. Speaker 100:27:01And then we see something that we Speaker 300:27:03think is going at, frankly, pretty cheap, and we'd step in and buy it. And that's what we do. But the market's market's in the same place. California, as I said, that market has been largely closed, and I and and what we're starting to see is is capitulation on the part of some sellers starting to beat some transactions out there. And, you know, that that is incredibly property and sort of county specific in the California Central Valley. Speaker 300:27:30If you're in one of the areas with really good water, prices are still pretty strong, not much going on in terms of of value declines. If you're in one of the areas that's water constrained and and facing what they call sigma regulation, that's their groundwater regulation regime, you're seeing prices decline, and we're now kinda finding out how far they've declined in those markets as we start to see a few transactions happen. Speaker 500:28:01Okay. Thanks for the color. Appreciate it. Operator00:28:08Your next question comes from the line of John Massocca with RB Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:28:19Thanks. It's B. Riley Securities. A quick question on the buyback. Just given where the cash levels are today, I mean, are you thinking about that versus doing to hold some dry powder, if you will, for any kind of attractive land investments that may come your way, particularly given, you know, some of the uncertainty in the macro environment. Speaker 300:28:44So so Luca Luca alluded to this. You know, today, when I say there's a bargain out there in the in the farmland world, that might be trading at a, you know, five or 10% below what we really think it's worth. You know, we think our stock, is, you know, trading at a, what, 25%, thirty % discount to what we think it's really worth. And so we're more likely to be stock buyback, focused than land purchase focused. Obviously, you got a balanced cost, you know, cost of money because, you know, we do have debt, so we could be paying off debt with the cash. Speaker 300:29:27But there is a serious bargain. You know, we sold a bunch of properties, for example. I would would certainly be advocating that quite a bit of that money go into buybacks, because, you know, there's just such a huge discount, to our to what we think the underlying value is at this point in time. And that, you know, that's driven as much by the, you know, the macro environment, you know, that we're facing with with, you know, sort of uncertainty in the marketplace overall. And when I say the marketplace, I don't mean farmland. Speaker 300:30:01I mean, the New York Stock and the Nasdaq. Speaker 600:30:05Okay. And then in terms of, you know, the portfolio and maybe future acquisitions, I mean, what's kind of the difference in the reaction to some of these tariff headwinds or tariff noise between, you know, some of the core row crop assets versus things in the permanent crop basis? And maybe, you know, it sounded like a lot of the stuff in California maybe is more to do with water than concerns about tariffs, but just was kind of interested because I feel like some of those tree nut, farms are a little more reliant on export. Speaker 300:30:39Actually, it's it's, to some degree, the other way around. So what you may see happen here, and it's it's crop by crop, but many of the specialty crops grown in The United States are consumed in The United States. We are, you know, a higher labor cost producer than many other agricultural regions on any sort of specialty crop that requires any level of handpicking or sorting. We're likely to have a higher cost, in the production. So as you see tariffs, I'll use avocados just as an example, you know, a huge amount of the avocados consumed in The United States come from Mexico. Speaker 300:31:20Those avocados are now more expensive unless they get exempted somehow from the tariff regime than were. You have to factor in the fact that the avocados from Mexico kinda hit the grocery store shelves at a slightly different calendar time than The US avocados. But, you know, a lot of those specialty crops have a chance to benefit, at least temporarily, from the increased tariff regime and face less composite competition, coming in from outside the country. Pistachios, in particular, would be another example. A lot of import a lot of competition from Iran and other places on pistachios. Speaker 300:32:01And, you know, you're gonna see a lot less of that competition, particularly from Iran. So so, you know, could see some benefit for your citrus. US grown citrus is almost entirely consumed inside The United States. US grown strawberries also almost entirely consumed inside The United States. So so probably a little bit of benefit there. Speaker 300:32:21Now remember, we don't think, and I don't think anybody thinks that the tariff regime will go on, in the current format, at least, for an extremely long period of time. So I don't know if that changes the value of those farms, but it may make the performance for this given year a little bit better. Hope that answers your question. Speaker 600:32:43No. I appreciate all that color. And then kind of last kind of balance sheet related one. The Farmer Mac facility here, you've got nothing outstanding on it. It matures in December. Speaker 600:32:55Is there a potential you just let that roll off? And is there some kind of fee saving potentially from that? Or given the spread on that facility, would want to keep that and renew it? Speaker 100:33:09I I think we're all Speaker 300:33:10you know, Susan, Luca, feel free to add to this, but I think we're likely likely to leave it in place. We leave it in place for a couple of reasons. We have the upcoming repayment of the preferred at some point early next year. But also, look, just having liquidity as a, you know, somewhat large public company is a good idea. It's, you know, rainy day money as I call it. Speaker 300:33:32And, you know, so what I I would say odds on that we will leave that in place, you know, maybe at a slightly different size or something like that, but it's probably going to continue, going forward. And Susan and Luca, if you have a different opinion, feel free to share it. But that's what I think. Speaker 100:33:52No. That that, you were right on point. You know, we see the, maintaining liquidity Speaker 600:33:57access Speaker 100:33:57to liquidity as a as an important element of our strategy that allows us, it gives us a lot of flexibility in capital deployment and, in balance sheet, kind of strategies. So we'll we'll be likely to renew it. Right. That makes sense. Speaker 600:34:16That's it for me. Thank you very much. Operator00:34:21Thank you. Alright. Thank you. It looks like there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Luca Fabri for closing remarks. Speaker 100:34:46Thank you, Amy, and thank you, everybody. We appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to updating you on our activities and results in the coming quarters. Have a great day. Operator00:34:56Thank you. That does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by