NASDAQ:SITM SiTime Q1 2025 Earnings Report $197.59 -6.44 (-3.16%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$197.60 +0.01 (+0.01%) As of 07:10 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast SiTime EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.26Consensus EPS $0.11Beat/MissBeat by +$0.15One Year Ago EPS-$0.08SiTime Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$60.31 millionExpected Revenue$54.01 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.31 millionYoY Revenue Growth+82.70%SiTime Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/7/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsSiTime's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, August 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by SiTime Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Cytimes First Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, 05/07/2025. I would now like to turn the call over to Brett Perry of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Operator00:00:28Brett, please go ahead. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:00:31Thank you, Dee Dee. Good afternoon, and welcome to CyTime's first quarter twenty twenty five financial results conference call. Joining us today on the call from CyTime are Rajesh Vasjist, Chief Executive Officer and Beth Howe, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that during the course of this call, the company may make forward looking statements regarding expected future results, including financial position, strategy and plans, future operations, the timing market and other areas of discussion. It's not possible for the company's management to predict all risks, nor can the company assess the impact of all factors on its business or the extent to which any factor or combination of factors may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward looking statements. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:01:20In light of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions, the forward looking events discussed during this call may not occur, and actual results could differ materially and adversely from those anticipated or implied. Neither the company nor any person assumes responsibility for the accuracy and completeness of forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update forward looking statements for any reason after the date of this call to conform statements to actual results or to changes in the company's expectations. For more detailed information on risks associated with the business, we refer you to the risk factors described in the 10 ks filed on 02/14/2025, as well as the company's subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also during the call, we'll refer to non GAAP financial measures, which are considered to be an important measure of company performance. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:02:08These non GAAP financial measures are provided in addition to and not as a substitute for nor superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. The GAAP to non GAAP reconciliation includes stock based compensation expense, amortization of acquired intangibles, and acquisition related expenses, which include transaction and certain other cash costs associated with business acquisition as well as changes in the estimated fair value of contingent consideration and earn out liabilities. Please refer to the company's press release issued earlier today for a detailed reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP financial results. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:02:47With that, it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to CEO. Rajesh, please go ahead. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:02:53Thanks, Brett. Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome new as well as existing investors to Cytimes' first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. Cytimes is the leader in a dynamic new semiconductor category that we call precision timing, which is a heartbeat of modern electronics. Whether Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:03:12it Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:03:13is in AI data centers, networking infrastructure, automated vehicles, personal mobility or IoT, SiTime's Precision Timing delivers better performance and reliability. Precision Timing uses semiconductor technology to reimagine time and transform the $10,000,000,000 timing market. SiTime is uniquely focused on high value timing markets and applications and serving them with highly differentiated products that deliver exceptional value. With this strategy, we're building a strong business that is diverse across industries, applications and geographies. This has served us well. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:03:57And even in this dynamic environment, it has enabled us to continue to grow rapidly. The numbers speak for themselves. Q1 twenty twenty five was a great quarter, where we delivered financial results well above our target. Revenue was 83% higher than the year ago at $60,300,000 gross margins were 57.4% and EPS was $0.26 per share. This growth was driven by all of our segments. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:04:31The comms enterprise data center, or CED, business tripled year over year, and both the mobile IoT consumer and the auto industrial defense customer segments grew double digit percentages. Revenue from our largest customer grew over 75%. We expect this strength to continue in Q2. Our CED business has shown significant sequential growth for four consecutive quarters now, driven by the strength of AI. Our OEM and cloud service provider customers continue to reaffirm their growth outlook, and we expect the data center business to continue to grow through 2025. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:05:19We know that AI infrastructure needs higher network bandwidth to improve GPU utilization rates, which directly impacts the consumption of SiTime's precision timing products. There are two trends that confirm this infrastructure upgrade. First, optical module and switch bandwidth is doubling, and we're shipping in high volume in 800 gs today. We're now seeing increased design activity for 1.6T modules, which we expect will become the mainstream in 'twenty six and 'twenty seven. Citam has had success on 1.6T designs, and we have over 20 opportunities at customers worldwide. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:06:06As a second trend, active electrical cables, or AEC, continue to replace passive cables within the data center rack with two to 4x higher bandwidth. In both these applications, SiTime continues to be a highly differentiated solution where we deliver significant value in performance and resilient supply. Additionally, we are also very excited about our clocking business, which is central to the strategy of solving customers' needs across the timing subsystem. We continue to have a sustainable advantage because we uniquely have all the components required to make truly differentiated products. By integrating the oscillator with the clock and software, Citam has created a new clock category that is a complete system solution, which delivers increased performance and simplified designs for our customers. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:07:03This strategy has the potential to create the highest clocking revenue in the industry in the coming years across all the customer segments. SiTime has already launched three clocking products with higher ASPs and longer revenue streams, a trend that will continue for products in the future. Some examples are in CED, our Cascade family offers the benefit of more resilient performance and has been designed into diverse applications from switches and MYC cards, network interface cards in data centers to five gs equipment and fixed wireless access or FWA. In automotive, our Corus family has over a dozen high value designs in ADAS or automated driving applications, where it offers the benefit of integration and higher reliability. For the mobile IoT consumer market, we have recently introduced Symphonic, the industry's first integrated clock generator for five gs millimeter wave consumer products as well as asset trackers and GNSS or GPS receivers. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:08:15Symphonic customers get high performance with environmental resilience, small size, system power efficiency and also find homes in industrial applications. In these dynamic times, our product differentiation is key to continued success. I'm confident in SiTime's ability to adapt to the rapid changes in the world today, while continuing to grow revenue, profitability and market share. With that, I'll turn the call over to Beth, our CFO, to discuss financial results in more detail. Beth? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:08:51Thanks, Rajesh. Good afternoon, everyone. Today, I'll discuss first quarter twenty twenty five results, and then I'll provide our outlook for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five. As a reminder, I'll focus my discussion on non GAAP financial results, which are reconciled to GAAP in our press release. Our Q1 results highlight the momentum of our business. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:09:14First quarter revenue increased 83% year on year to $60,300,000 driven by ongoing strength in our data center business as well as growth in our mobile business. Sales to the Communications, Enterprise and Data Center customer segment were $29,300,000 up 198% year on year. Sales into the Automotive, Industrial and Defense customer segment were $14,100,000 up 10% year on year. And sales into the mobile, IoT and consumer customer segment were $16,900,000 up 64% year on year, with sales to our largest end customer increasing 76% to $11,100,000 In terms of the mix of revenue, Communications Enterprise Data Center represented 49% of revenue, Automotive, Industrial and Defense made up 23% of revenue, and the MobileIoT consumer represented 28% of total revenue. Gross margins for the quarter were 57.4%, with gross margin dollars increasing 81% year on year. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:10:38Total non GAAP operating expenses were $32,500,000 flat sequentially and in line with expectations. For the quarter, R and D expense was $19,300,000 and SG and A expense was $13,200,000 Q1 non GAAP operating income was $2,100,000 an improvement of $10,300,000 or 16 percentage points versus the same quarter a year ago. Q1 non GAAP net income was $6,300,000 or $0.26 per share. Turning to the balance sheet. Accounts receivable were $28,100,000 with DSO improving to forty two days versus fifty days in Q4. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:11:29Inventory ended the quarter at $82,600,000 compared with $76,700,000 in Q4 as we ramped production for key new products and continue to maintain strong wafer balances for assurance of supply. During the quarter, we generated $15,000,000 in cash from operations, up $1,500,000 sequentially and up $13,300,000 year over year. CapEx was $16,400,000 in the quarter, driven largely by the purchases of production equipment, and we paid $5,000,000 to Org Semiconductor. Our balance sheet remains strong, and we ended the quarter with $398,900,000 in cash and short term investments and no debt. Now I'd like to provide our outlook for the June. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:12:24For Q2, we expect revenue growth of 45 to 50% year on year, which is $64,700,000 at the midpoint gross margins to be approximately flat compared with Q1 operating expenses to be in the range of 33,000,000 to $33,500,000 and interest income of approximately $3,000,000 to $3,400,000 As a result, we expect second quarter non GAAP EPS to be in the range of $0.25 to $0.31 per share. With that, I'll open it up for questions. Operator00:13:03Thank you. And our first question comes from Quinn Bolton of Needham and Company. Your line is open. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:13:29Hey, guys. Congratulations on the nice results and outlook. I guess, first question, Rajesh, you mentioned a significant design win back in March at the Morgan Stanley Investor Conference with your largest customer. That customer is up, I think, 76% year on year. Can you give us a sense, do you expect that kind of growth to continue throughout the year? Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:13:50Just what should we be expecting as that customer launches phones with the internal modem where you have two timing sockets paired with that internal modem? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:14:03Yes. I think we should expect to have continued growth. I don't know if it will be in the same percentage. Clearly, there is strength. You mentioned those two design wins. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:14:16I think those design wins are in good shape. What remains to be seen, however, as always is, first of all, as you know, it's a consumer product, so it typically cycles up and down a little bit more than others. The second is, it's the first one of its kind in the phone paired to their own certain chips that they have. So I think we've got to see where that goes. And finally, we do live in a very dynamic environment where you we don't know what the impact of tariffs or not tariffs or lesser tariffs or more tariffs are going to have. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:15:00So all that being said, we continue to expect growth. Yeah. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:15:05And maybe a follow-up for Beth. Beth, I think as revenue grows into the second half of the year, I think you were expecting margin expansion. Can you give us a sense, do you still expect margins to expand in the second half? And I guess as part of that, to the extent your largest customer, which is in the consumer space, continues to grow at a pretty healthy clip, would that potentially represent some drag on margins that we should be thinking about? Thank you. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:15:36Thanks for the question. So as we look at our gross margins, you indicated So we do remain committed to the gross margin target for our core business of 60% that we've been working towards. As we've discussed, we're making improvements in our costs and yields for our new products as they ramp. In addition, as you mentioned, we do have this new consumer business, which does come at lower gross margins. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:16:01And so while it does contribute incremental revenue and gross profit dollars and also provide significant value to us over the long term, it does put some pressure on our gross margin rate. And so overall, we're working to offset and mitigate that pressure to deliver the 60% by the end of the year. And that's what we're working towards. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:16:24So 60% is still the target? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:16:28That's still our target. Clearly, we're working on it. We've got a little more work to do now with the new products. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:16:36Understood. Thank you very much. I'll get back in the queue. Operator00:16:39Thank you. Our next question comes from Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is open. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:16:50Yes. Thank you and congratulations on the strong results. So I know there's a lot of focus on your largest customer, but I mean the data center segment continues to be very robust Rajesh. So I was just hoping you could elaborate a little bit more on your growth profile there. You definitely talked about 800 gig upgrade cycle moving to 1.6. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:17:10You talked about the AUCs, but my understanding is that you participate in a lot of different parts of the AI data center. So how should we think about the continuous momentum here throughout the year? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:17:22Well, the continuous momentum is strong. So you rightly point out that while I have given examples in the optical module and the connectivity, there are other opportunities in switches in server racks, in the GPU, the CPU, accelerator cards and so on. And we are in fact in every one of those. We are also looking at new opportunities that are coming directly from GPUs that are being made by non semiconductor companies. And we see that as a tremendous opportunity as well. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:18:05So we stand pretty strongly behind continued growth, frankly, for years to come in the overall AI data center market, because we see no slowdown in it. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:18:22Very good. Thank you for that. And as my follow-up, could you talk a little bit about which segments you expect to drive the sequential growth into the June? And have you seen any sort of pull in activity at all as related to potential tariffs? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:18:40Yeah. It's always hard to tell whether there is pull in activity. But at this point, I would say it is minimal, if any. We haven't detected any pull in activity. Our bookings natively just continue to be very strong, and customers are looking well beyond the ninety day tariff mark for Q3, Q4 and onwards. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:19:06So our outlook continues very bright and very solid. The growth will, as we said, just like we look back on Q1 and see that the growth came from every one of those, every one of those, whether it's CD or data center I'm sorry, or mobile, IoT consumer or auto industrial defense, it will continue to come from all aspects. Might be a little bit lighter from the auto side, but I think it's quite a uniform growth. And the reason for that, as always, is because of our differentiated products. Our premium products tend to be premium, and they get sold in our customers' premium products, which are generally less impacted by weaknesses of any kind in the market. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:20:02So that's why we think we're in a strong position. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:20:06Great. Congratulations again. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:20:08Thank you. Operator00:20:09Thank you. And our next question comes from Chris Caso of Wolfe Research. Your line is open. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:20:22Yes, thank you. Good afternoon. I guess the first question is your outlook for the full year and you had talked about, I think 25% to 30% growth for the year. Given the differing landscape, both take into account, perhaps some of the design wins you spoke about, but also some of the uncertainty in the market. Is that still a valid goal for the year? Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:20:48Or is that too low of a goal, too high of a goal? And what do you expect to be the drivers for the year? Has that changed as compared to what you thought a quarter ago? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:20:58Yeah, so we are, of course, monitoring like everybody else to the extent we can, the dynamic environment, and what we see going on in the world at large. But having said that, we would still reaffirm growth prospects at that number we talked about 25% to 30% for the base business and additional growth based on the new design win that we have had. We see we again go back to the differentiation of our products, and the breadth of our products. We go back to the fact that we are now in the system timing selling business with the clocking products, as I indicated in my prepared remarks. And finally, to the fact that our design win funnel continues very strongly, which matches the product funnel. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:22:01As far as where they come from, I'll reiterate the same thing I said earlier, which is it'll happen in all segments. It's highly likely that CED led by data center will grow significantly strongly, just as it did the last quarter, but all the others will also join in. So it's all boats will be going up, perhaps one or two higher than others. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:22:28Got it. And then a question for Beth, and just to follow-up with some of your comments on gross margins. So what are the levers that you can pull to get to that 60% target at the end of the year while factoring in some of the lower margin revenue? Is that a fraction of cost reduction on some of the products? Or is that a function of mix with regard to Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:22:58the rest of the business? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:23:01Sure, Chris. So as we look at it, it's a function of a couple of things. So one is that we are making progress in terms of the new product introductions and the ramp there, improving the cost of those new products and improving the yields as those ramp. And that's the work we've been doing, we've been talking about. We also expect revenue growth as we go through the year. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:23:22And so that expect to see some operating leverage or manufacturing kind of leverage as we have more revenue. And as I said in earlier, the new business does provide incremental gross profit dollars, but is a bit of a pressure on the rate. And so we'll be looking to take additional actions to improve the cost structure in order to overcome some of those headwinds. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:23:50Got it. And if I could ask one more, Rajesh, with regard to the data center business, mentioned a couple of different trends within that business. Perhaps you could separate out your content going forward and things like, you know, 1.6 terabyte modules, active cables and that, you know, how does your content grow as, you know, some of these new technologies go in as compared to your penetration, just side time getting a bigger market share of some of these markets? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:24:27Yeah, so I think Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:24:30the dollar content doesn't increase. Let's look at our ASP doesn't increase as a going from 800 to 1.6 in any significant way. So that's one. That's not happening. Our dollar content remains steady in each of the design wins. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:24:50The number of design wins increases for sure, because the need for precision timing gets continued to be spread out more and more. As an example, it was only a year ago that we started to see our first AEC or active electrical cables being used. And some of the accelerator cards didn't use any of our Precision products two years ago, and now some of them are using some of our most valuable, highly differentiated products. The third way is a greater penetration into customers, because we while we have done a reasonably good job at penetrating some of our customers in the OEM semiconductor module space, there's still more penetration to be had there. So the expand inside after landing strategy. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:25:47And then there are new customers, particularly as CSPs, that are still not directly meaningful customers of Citan. So we really have a lot of levers to pull here. And there's also the change in architecture that happens in many cases. So one of them is, for example, going after a significantly denser architecture with significantly higher use case of SiTime's precision timing products per unit or increase in the density of usage. So all in all, we think that this is a big updraft for Cytimes for some significant time to come. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:26:31Got it. Thank you. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:26:33Yeah. Operator00:26:34Thank you. Our next question comes from Suji Desilva of Roth Capital. Your line is open. Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:26:44Hi, Rajesh. Hi, Beth. Congrats on the progress here. Can you talk about the platforms you called out naming them Rajesh, Cascade, Chorus, Symphonic and just how you're trying to portray the product portfolio and roadmap here? I it's first time I've heard those called out together as sort of your platform. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:27:02Right, right. Thank you for that. Our Cascade family of products is much more on the CED side. It's being used in communications, in enterprise, in data center. It's our most complex chip in the clocking business. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:27:19It's probably our first chip that we did in clocking. There are versions of it that are integrated with oscillators. There are versions of it that are not integrated. So there's a whole price performance level of it, and it's in the higher end of the range. The second one is relatively new, Chorus family of products, for some reason not what for some reason, but for reason of integration and higher reliability, is more attuned for the automotive market and the self driving market, primarily because of its significantly smaller size and significantly higher performance in terms of jitter and phase noise. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:28:09And the final one is the latest one. I think we just got the press release out on that a day or two ago, the Symphonic, which is a SiTime generated all of these are SiTime generated, except Cascade, by the way, which comes from the Aura acquisition. But the Symphonic product is a multi output clock generator, more for the five gs millimeter wave, which we think other than consumer products is also getting used significantly in industrial applications. And that's based on the phase noise, the resilience, the small size, the low power. So these are multi year efforts at cracking the market. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:28:53And the point that I wanted to make was that with the launch of Symphonic in particular, we have increased our target revenue that we expect to get over the coming years. I've always said about $100,000,000 in a few years from our clocking business, and I can say comfortably that we are highly likely to increase it significantly in the coming years because of the launch of some of these products. So very, very pleased with that and very pleased with the traction that we've been getting. Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:29:29Okay. And just to clarify the strong growth you're having in data center and optical, should I think of that as being majority cascade or is that the oscillator products and shifting to more Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:29:40optical the oscillators. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:29:42Yeah, all the oscillators, the EPYC product, the Elite RF, the Elite itself, the Elite TCXOs, the clocking products, even some of the buffers from Aura, which are relatively undifferentiated, but higher number in use case. I think we are this is the CED business is the classic case we've always maintained, is the one which is the highest growth, the greatest value proposition that Citam can bring, the highest ASPs with the highest volumes that balance, and of course, sticky or very long lived business. So it's very much a business that we are very focused on. Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:30:36Okay, great. Very helpful, Rajesh. Thanks. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:30:39Thank you. Operator00:30:40Thank you. And we have a follow-up from Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is open. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:30:50Yes, thank you. Yeah, Rajesh, I know you've got a lot of momentum I also know you have a lot of design wins in the telecom five gs communications market. Just wondering if that's starting to move? Or is that market still quite slow? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:31:07Yes, it's thank you for that question, Tore. Yes, it is starting to move and it isn't particularly large right now, but we expect to keep on growing in that. There are some initiatives going on in fixed wireless In overseas, there are others in the enterprise space that are looking quite good. So we think we'll acquire new customers in this. So very, very enthused about it. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:31:38And I briefly mentioned software and CyTime has for the last year or so been using IEEE fifteen eighty eight or synchronization software to add greater value to our customers. And that has allowed us to, frankly, charge more for our oscillator and clocking products, because customers need that full solution of oscillator clocks and the synchronized software altogether. It's another example of our system cell. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:32:15Very good. As my last question, a question for Beth. Beth, the CapEx has been around 15,000,000 to $16,000,000 the last three quarters. I assume that's for maybe a combination of things. But could you give us any sense for how much longer it would be at this more elevated level? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:32:35Thanks, Tore. Yes, we've been investing to build capacity for some of these new products that we've been talking about, the ones we talked about today, for example. I would expect we've got a little more to go in terms of Q2 at these levels. And for the full year, probably roughly in line with the total for 2024. So I would expect the total CapEx for the year to be kind of mid- to high 30s for the year. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:33:08Perfect, thank you. Operator00:33:11Thank you. We have no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to management for closing remarks. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:33:18Thank you, Didi. What I wanted to highlight here was that these are tough times, from macro conditions, there are uncertainties in the market, it's highly dynamic, The news continues to change and evolve. And at Citam, we ask ourselves, what is our role in all this? And our role in all of this is to navigate this with to the best of our ability. And where we can do a great job is focus and stick to the things that we can control. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:33:54So what do we control? We control the cadence and value of our parts. We're doing that with highly differentiated product. We continue we can control the acquisition of key customers and greater penetration. We continue to do that in many of our new customers. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:34:12We have acquired new customers, new applications. We are obviously able to control our spending. And as you can see, our spending continues to be flattish as we go, and we control increasing our gross margins. So we're doing that as well. So in general, we are managing our own destiny with the cards that we've been dealt. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:34:40And I think that I feel very confident that by sticking to all of these valuable leverage, all of these valuable levers, we can come out on the other end of it very, very strong. And thank you for your attention to this and listening into our quarterly results. Operator00:35:01This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The BoardBeth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFOAnalystsBrett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton GroupQuinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & CompanyTore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel FinancialChris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLCSuji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLCPowered by Key Takeaways CyTime delivered 83% year-over-year revenue growth to $60.3 M in Q1 2025, with a 57.4% gross margin and EPS of $0.26, driven by a tripling of the Communications, Enterprise & Data Center (CED) segment and double-digit gains in Mobile/IoT and Auto/Industrial/Defense. The CED business achieved its fourth consecutive quarter of sequential growth, fueled by AI infrastructure upgrades—shifting from 800 G to 1.6 T optical modules and the adoption of active electrical cables that require higher-performance timing solutions. SiTime is broadening its system-level portfolio with Cascade, Corus, and Symphonic clocking products that integrate oscillators, clocks, and synchronization software, enabling higher ASPs and multi-year revenue streams across data center, automotive, and 5 G/industrial applications. The company generated $15 M of operating cash flow in the quarter, ended Q1 with $398.9 M in cash and no debt, and guided Q2 revenue of $64.7 M (up 45–50% YoY) with non-GAAP EPS of $0.25–0.31. AI Generated. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Cytimes First Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, 05/07/2025. I would now like to turn the call over to Brett Perry of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Operator00:00:28Brett, please go ahead. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:00:31Thank you, Dee Dee. Good afternoon, and welcome to CyTime's first quarter twenty twenty five financial results conference call. Joining us today on the call from CyTime are Rajesh Vasjist, Chief Executive Officer and Beth Howe, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that during the course of this call, the company may make forward looking statements regarding expected future results, including financial position, strategy and plans, future operations, the timing market and other areas of discussion. It's not possible for the company's management to predict all risks, nor can the company assess the impact of all factors on its business or the extent to which any factor or combination of factors may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward looking statements. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:01:20In light of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions, the forward looking events discussed during this call may not occur, and actual results could differ materially and adversely from those anticipated or implied. Neither the company nor any person assumes responsibility for the accuracy and completeness of forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update forward looking statements for any reason after the date of this call to conform statements to actual results or to changes in the company's expectations. For more detailed information on risks associated with the business, we refer you to the risk factors described in the 10 ks filed on 02/14/2025, as well as the company's subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also during the call, we'll refer to non GAAP financial measures, which are considered to be an important measure of company performance. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:02:08These non GAAP financial measures are provided in addition to and not as a substitute for nor superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. The GAAP to non GAAP reconciliation includes stock based compensation expense, amortization of acquired intangibles, and acquisition related expenses, which include transaction and certain other cash costs associated with business acquisition as well as changes in the estimated fair value of contingent consideration and earn out liabilities. Please refer to the company's press release issued earlier today for a detailed reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP financial results. Brett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton Group00:02:47With that, it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to CEO. Rajesh, please go ahead. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:02:53Thanks, Brett. Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome new as well as existing investors to Cytimes' first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. Cytimes is the leader in a dynamic new semiconductor category that we call precision timing, which is a heartbeat of modern electronics. Whether Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:03:12it Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:03:13is in AI data centers, networking infrastructure, automated vehicles, personal mobility or IoT, SiTime's Precision Timing delivers better performance and reliability. Precision Timing uses semiconductor technology to reimagine time and transform the $10,000,000,000 timing market. SiTime is uniquely focused on high value timing markets and applications and serving them with highly differentiated products that deliver exceptional value. With this strategy, we're building a strong business that is diverse across industries, applications and geographies. This has served us well. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:03:57And even in this dynamic environment, it has enabled us to continue to grow rapidly. The numbers speak for themselves. Q1 twenty twenty five was a great quarter, where we delivered financial results well above our target. Revenue was 83% higher than the year ago at $60,300,000 gross margins were 57.4% and EPS was $0.26 per share. This growth was driven by all of our segments. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:04:31The comms enterprise data center, or CED, business tripled year over year, and both the mobile IoT consumer and the auto industrial defense customer segments grew double digit percentages. Revenue from our largest customer grew over 75%. We expect this strength to continue in Q2. Our CED business has shown significant sequential growth for four consecutive quarters now, driven by the strength of AI. Our OEM and cloud service provider customers continue to reaffirm their growth outlook, and we expect the data center business to continue to grow through 2025. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:05:19We know that AI infrastructure needs higher network bandwidth to improve GPU utilization rates, which directly impacts the consumption of SiTime's precision timing products. There are two trends that confirm this infrastructure upgrade. First, optical module and switch bandwidth is doubling, and we're shipping in high volume in 800 gs today. We're now seeing increased design activity for 1.6T modules, which we expect will become the mainstream in 'twenty six and 'twenty seven. Citam has had success on 1.6T designs, and we have over 20 opportunities at customers worldwide. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:06:06As a second trend, active electrical cables, or AEC, continue to replace passive cables within the data center rack with two to 4x higher bandwidth. In both these applications, SiTime continues to be a highly differentiated solution where we deliver significant value in performance and resilient supply. Additionally, we are also very excited about our clocking business, which is central to the strategy of solving customers' needs across the timing subsystem. We continue to have a sustainable advantage because we uniquely have all the components required to make truly differentiated products. By integrating the oscillator with the clock and software, Citam has created a new clock category that is a complete system solution, which delivers increased performance and simplified designs for our customers. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:07:03This strategy has the potential to create the highest clocking revenue in the industry in the coming years across all the customer segments. SiTime has already launched three clocking products with higher ASPs and longer revenue streams, a trend that will continue for products in the future. Some examples are in CED, our Cascade family offers the benefit of more resilient performance and has been designed into diverse applications from switches and MYC cards, network interface cards in data centers to five gs equipment and fixed wireless access or FWA. In automotive, our Corus family has over a dozen high value designs in ADAS or automated driving applications, where it offers the benefit of integration and higher reliability. For the mobile IoT consumer market, we have recently introduced Symphonic, the industry's first integrated clock generator for five gs millimeter wave consumer products as well as asset trackers and GNSS or GPS receivers. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:08:15Symphonic customers get high performance with environmental resilience, small size, system power efficiency and also find homes in industrial applications. In these dynamic times, our product differentiation is key to continued success. I'm confident in SiTime's ability to adapt to the rapid changes in the world today, while continuing to grow revenue, profitability and market share. With that, I'll turn the call over to Beth, our CFO, to discuss financial results in more detail. Beth? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:08:51Thanks, Rajesh. Good afternoon, everyone. Today, I'll discuss first quarter twenty twenty five results, and then I'll provide our outlook for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five. As a reminder, I'll focus my discussion on non GAAP financial results, which are reconciled to GAAP in our press release. Our Q1 results highlight the momentum of our business. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:09:14First quarter revenue increased 83% year on year to $60,300,000 driven by ongoing strength in our data center business as well as growth in our mobile business. Sales to the Communications, Enterprise and Data Center customer segment were $29,300,000 up 198% year on year. Sales into the Automotive, Industrial and Defense customer segment were $14,100,000 up 10% year on year. And sales into the mobile, IoT and consumer customer segment were $16,900,000 up 64% year on year, with sales to our largest end customer increasing 76% to $11,100,000 In terms of the mix of revenue, Communications Enterprise Data Center represented 49% of revenue, Automotive, Industrial and Defense made up 23% of revenue, and the MobileIoT consumer represented 28% of total revenue. Gross margins for the quarter were 57.4%, with gross margin dollars increasing 81% year on year. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:10:38Total non GAAP operating expenses were $32,500,000 flat sequentially and in line with expectations. For the quarter, R and D expense was $19,300,000 and SG and A expense was $13,200,000 Q1 non GAAP operating income was $2,100,000 an improvement of $10,300,000 or 16 percentage points versus the same quarter a year ago. Q1 non GAAP net income was $6,300,000 or $0.26 per share. Turning to the balance sheet. Accounts receivable were $28,100,000 with DSO improving to forty two days versus fifty days in Q4. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:11:29Inventory ended the quarter at $82,600,000 compared with $76,700,000 in Q4 as we ramped production for key new products and continue to maintain strong wafer balances for assurance of supply. During the quarter, we generated $15,000,000 in cash from operations, up $1,500,000 sequentially and up $13,300,000 year over year. CapEx was $16,400,000 in the quarter, driven largely by the purchases of production equipment, and we paid $5,000,000 to Org Semiconductor. Our balance sheet remains strong, and we ended the quarter with $398,900,000 in cash and short term investments and no debt. Now I'd like to provide our outlook for the June. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:12:24For Q2, we expect revenue growth of 45 to 50% year on year, which is $64,700,000 at the midpoint gross margins to be approximately flat compared with Q1 operating expenses to be in the range of 33,000,000 to $33,500,000 and interest income of approximately $3,000,000 to $3,400,000 As a result, we expect second quarter non GAAP EPS to be in the range of $0.25 to $0.31 per share. With that, I'll open it up for questions. Operator00:13:03Thank you. And our first question comes from Quinn Bolton of Needham and Company. Your line is open. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:13:29Hey, guys. Congratulations on the nice results and outlook. I guess, first question, Rajesh, you mentioned a significant design win back in March at the Morgan Stanley Investor Conference with your largest customer. That customer is up, I think, 76% year on year. Can you give us a sense, do you expect that kind of growth to continue throughout the year? Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:13:50Just what should we be expecting as that customer launches phones with the internal modem where you have two timing sockets paired with that internal modem? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:14:03Yes. I think we should expect to have continued growth. I don't know if it will be in the same percentage. Clearly, there is strength. You mentioned those two design wins. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:14:16I think those design wins are in good shape. What remains to be seen, however, as always is, first of all, as you know, it's a consumer product, so it typically cycles up and down a little bit more than others. The second is, it's the first one of its kind in the phone paired to their own certain chips that they have. So I think we've got to see where that goes. And finally, we do live in a very dynamic environment where you we don't know what the impact of tariffs or not tariffs or lesser tariffs or more tariffs are going to have. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:15:00So all that being said, we continue to expect growth. Yeah. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:15:05And maybe a follow-up for Beth. Beth, I think as revenue grows into the second half of the year, I think you were expecting margin expansion. Can you give us a sense, do you still expect margins to expand in the second half? And I guess as part of that, to the extent your largest customer, which is in the consumer space, continues to grow at a pretty healthy clip, would that potentially represent some drag on margins that we should be thinking about? Thank you. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:15:36Thanks for the question. So as we look at our gross margins, you indicated So we do remain committed to the gross margin target for our core business of 60% that we've been working towards. As we've discussed, we're making improvements in our costs and yields for our new products as they ramp. In addition, as you mentioned, we do have this new consumer business, which does come at lower gross margins. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:16:01And so while it does contribute incremental revenue and gross profit dollars and also provide significant value to us over the long term, it does put some pressure on our gross margin rate. And so overall, we're working to offset and mitigate that pressure to deliver the 60% by the end of the year. And that's what we're working towards. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:16:24So 60% is still the target? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:16:28That's still our target. Clearly, we're working on it. We've got a little more work to do now with the new products. Quinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & Company00:16:36Understood. Thank you very much. I'll get back in the queue. Operator00:16:39Thank you. Our next question comes from Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is open. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:16:50Yes. Thank you and congratulations on the strong results. So I know there's a lot of focus on your largest customer, but I mean the data center segment continues to be very robust Rajesh. So I was just hoping you could elaborate a little bit more on your growth profile there. You definitely talked about 800 gig upgrade cycle moving to 1.6. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:17:10You talked about the AUCs, but my understanding is that you participate in a lot of different parts of the AI data center. So how should we think about the continuous momentum here throughout the year? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:17:22Well, the continuous momentum is strong. So you rightly point out that while I have given examples in the optical module and the connectivity, there are other opportunities in switches in server racks, in the GPU, the CPU, accelerator cards and so on. And we are in fact in every one of those. We are also looking at new opportunities that are coming directly from GPUs that are being made by non semiconductor companies. And we see that as a tremendous opportunity as well. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:18:05So we stand pretty strongly behind continued growth, frankly, for years to come in the overall AI data center market, because we see no slowdown in it. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:18:22Very good. Thank you for that. And as my follow-up, could you talk a little bit about which segments you expect to drive the sequential growth into the June? And have you seen any sort of pull in activity at all as related to potential tariffs? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:18:40Yeah. It's always hard to tell whether there is pull in activity. But at this point, I would say it is minimal, if any. We haven't detected any pull in activity. Our bookings natively just continue to be very strong, and customers are looking well beyond the ninety day tariff mark for Q3, Q4 and onwards. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:19:06So our outlook continues very bright and very solid. The growth will, as we said, just like we look back on Q1 and see that the growth came from every one of those, every one of those, whether it's CD or data center I'm sorry, or mobile, IoT consumer or auto industrial defense, it will continue to come from all aspects. Might be a little bit lighter from the auto side, but I think it's quite a uniform growth. And the reason for that, as always, is because of our differentiated products. Our premium products tend to be premium, and they get sold in our customers' premium products, which are generally less impacted by weaknesses of any kind in the market. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:20:02So that's why we think we're in a strong position. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:20:06Great. Congratulations again. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:20:08Thank you. Operator00:20:09Thank you. And our next question comes from Chris Caso of Wolfe Research. Your line is open. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:20:22Yes, thank you. Good afternoon. I guess the first question is your outlook for the full year and you had talked about, I think 25% to 30% growth for the year. Given the differing landscape, both take into account, perhaps some of the design wins you spoke about, but also some of the uncertainty in the market. Is that still a valid goal for the year? Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:20:48Or is that too low of a goal, too high of a goal? And what do you expect to be the drivers for the year? Has that changed as compared to what you thought a quarter ago? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:20:58Yeah, so we are, of course, monitoring like everybody else to the extent we can, the dynamic environment, and what we see going on in the world at large. But having said that, we would still reaffirm growth prospects at that number we talked about 25% to 30% for the base business and additional growth based on the new design win that we have had. We see we again go back to the differentiation of our products, and the breadth of our products. We go back to the fact that we are now in the system timing selling business with the clocking products, as I indicated in my prepared remarks. And finally, to the fact that our design win funnel continues very strongly, which matches the product funnel. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:22:01As far as where they come from, I'll reiterate the same thing I said earlier, which is it'll happen in all segments. It's highly likely that CED led by data center will grow significantly strongly, just as it did the last quarter, but all the others will also join in. So it's all boats will be going up, perhaps one or two higher than others. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:22:28Got it. And then a question for Beth, and just to follow-up with some of your comments on gross margins. So what are the levers that you can pull to get to that 60% target at the end of the year while factoring in some of the lower margin revenue? Is that a fraction of cost reduction on some of the products? Or is that a function of mix with regard to Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:22:58the rest of the business? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:23:01Sure, Chris. So as we look at it, it's a function of a couple of things. So one is that we are making progress in terms of the new product introductions and the ramp there, improving the cost of those new products and improving the yields as those ramp. And that's the work we've been doing, we've been talking about. We also expect revenue growth as we go through the year. Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:23:22And so that expect to see some operating leverage or manufacturing kind of leverage as we have more revenue. And as I said in earlier, the new business does provide incremental gross profit dollars, but is a bit of a pressure on the rate. And so we'll be looking to take additional actions to improve the cost structure in order to overcome some of those headwinds. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:23:50Got it. And if I could ask one more, Rajesh, with regard to the data center business, mentioned a couple of different trends within that business. Perhaps you could separate out your content going forward and things like, you know, 1.6 terabyte modules, active cables and that, you know, how does your content grow as, you know, some of these new technologies go in as compared to your penetration, just side time getting a bigger market share of some of these markets? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:24:27Yeah, so I think Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:24:30the dollar content doesn't increase. Let's look at our ASP doesn't increase as a going from 800 to 1.6 in any significant way. So that's one. That's not happening. Our dollar content remains steady in each of the design wins. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:24:50The number of design wins increases for sure, because the need for precision timing gets continued to be spread out more and more. As an example, it was only a year ago that we started to see our first AEC or active electrical cables being used. And some of the accelerator cards didn't use any of our Precision products two years ago, and now some of them are using some of our most valuable, highly differentiated products. The third way is a greater penetration into customers, because we while we have done a reasonably good job at penetrating some of our customers in the OEM semiconductor module space, there's still more penetration to be had there. So the expand inside after landing strategy. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:25:47And then there are new customers, particularly as CSPs, that are still not directly meaningful customers of Citan. So we really have a lot of levers to pull here. And there's also the change in architecture that happens in many cases. So one of them is, for example, going after a significantly denser architecture with significantly higher use case of SiTime's precision timing products per unit or increase in the density of usage. So all in all, we think that this is a big updraft for Cytimes for some significant time to come. Chris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLC00:26:31Got it. Thank you. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:26:33Yeah. Operator00:26:34Thank you. Our next question comes from Suji Desilva of Roth Capital. Your line is open. Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:26:44Hi, Rajesh. Hi, Beth. Congrats on the progress here. Can you talk about the platforms you called out naming them Rajesh, Cascade, Chorus, Symphonic and just how you're trying to portray the product portfolio and roadmap here? I it's first time I've heard those called out together as sort of your platform. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:27:02Right, right. Thank you for that. Our Cascade family of products is much more on the CED side. It's being used in communications, in enterprise, in data center. It's our most complex chip in the clocking business. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:27:19It's probably our first chip that we did in clocking. There are versions of it that are integrated with oscillators. There are versions of it that are not integrated. So there's a whole price performance level of it, and it's in the higher end of the range. The second one is relatively new, Chorus family of products, for some reason not what for some reason, but for reason of integration and higher reliability, is more attuned for the automotive market and the self driving market, primarily because of its significantly smaller size and significantly higher performance in terms of jitter and phase noise. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:28:09And the final one is the latest one. I think we just got the press release out on that a day or two ago, the Symphonic, which is a SiTime generated all of these are SiTime generated, except Cascade, by the way, which comes from the Aura acquisition. But the Symphonic product is a multi output clock generator, more for the five gs millimeter wave, which we think other than consumer products is also getting used significantly in industrial applications. And that's based on the phase noise, the resilience, the small size, the low power. So these are multi year efforts at cracking the market. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:28:53And the point that I wanted to make was that with the launch of Symphonic in particular, we have increased our target revenue that we expect to get over the coming years. I've always said about $100,000,000 in a few years from our clocking business, and I can say comfortably that we are highly likely to increase it significantly in the coming years because of the launch of some of these products. So very, very pleased with that and very pleased with the traction that we've been getting. Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:29:29Okay. And just to clarify the strong growth you're having in data center and optical, should I think of that as being majority cascade or is that the oscillator products and shifting to more Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:29:40optical the oscillators. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:29:42Yeah, all the oscillators, the EPYC product, the Elite RF, the Elite itself, the Elite TCXOs, the clocking products, even some of the buffers from Aura, which are relatively undifferentiated, but higher number in use case. I think we are this is the CED business is the classic case we've always maintained, is the one which is the highest growth, the greatest value proposition that Citam can bring, the highest ASPs with the highest volumes that balance, and of course, sticky or very long lived business. So it's very much a business that we are very focused on. Suji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:30:36Okay, great. Very helpful, Rajesh. Thanks. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:30:39Thank you. Operator00:30:40Thank you. And we have a follow-up from Tore Svanberg of Stifel. Your line is open. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:30:50Yes, thank you. Yeah, Rajesh, I know you've got a lot of momentum I also know you have a lot of design wins in the telecom five gs communications market. Just wondering if that's starting to move? Or is that market still quite slow? Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:31:07Yes, it's thank you for that question, Tore. Yes, it is starting to move and it isn't particularly large right now, but we expect to keep on growing in that. There are some initiatives going on in fixed wireless In overseas, there are others in the enterprise space that are looking quite good. So we think we'll acquire new customers in this. So very, very enthused about it. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:31:38And I briefly mentioned software and CyTime has for the last year or so been using IEEE fifteen eighty eight or synchronization software to add greater value to our customers. And that has allowed us to, frankly, charge more for our oscillator and clocking products, because customers need that full solution of oscillator clocks and the synchronized software altogether. It's another example of our system cell. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:32:15Very good. As my last question, a question for Beth. Beth, the CapEx has been around 15,000,000 to $16,000,000 the last three quarters. I assume that's for maybe a combination of things. But could you give us any sense for how much longer it would be at this more elevated level? Beth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFO at SiTime00:32:35Thanks, Tore. Yes, we've been investing to build capacity for some of these new products that we've been talking about, the ones we talked about today, for example. I would expect we've got a little more to go in terms of Q2 at these levels. And for the full year, probably roughly in line with the total for 2024. So I would expect the total CapEx for the year to be kind of mid- to high 30s for the year. Tore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel Financial00:33:08Perfect, thank you. Operator00:33:11Thank you. We have no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to management for closing remarks. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:33:18Thank you, Didi. What I wanted to highlight here was that these are tough times, from macro conditions, there are uncertainties in the market, it's highly dynamic, The news continues to change and evolve. And at Citam, we ask ourselves, what is our role in all this? And our role in all of this is to navigate this with to the best of our ability. And where we can do a great job is focus and stick to the things that we can control. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:33:54So what do we control? We control the cadence and value of our parts. We're doing that with highly differentiated product. We continue we can control the acquisition of key customers and greater penetration. We continue to do that in many of our new customers. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:34:12We have acquired new customers, new applications. We are obviously able to control our spending. And as you can see, our spending continues to be flattish as we go, and we control increasing our gross margins. So we're doing that as well. So in general, we are managing our own destiny with the cards that we've been dealt. Rajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The Board at SiTime00:34:40And I think that I feel very confident that by sticking to all of these valuable leverage, all of these valuable levers, we can come out on the other end of it very, very strong. And thank you for your attention to this and listening into our quarterly results. Operator00:35:01This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRajesh VashistCEO & Chairman of The BoardBeth HoweExecutive VP of Finance & CFOAnalystsBrett PerryVP - Investor Relations at Shelton GroupQuinn BoltonSenior Analyst at Needham & CompanyTore SvanbergManaging Director at Stifel FinancialChris CasoManaging Director at Wolfe Research LLCSuji DesilvaManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLCPowered by