Live Ventures Q2 2025 Earnings Report

Live Ventures EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $5.05
• Consensus EPS: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Live Ventures Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: N/A
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Live Ventures Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2025
• Date: 5/8/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Thursday, May 8, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 5:00PM ET

Live Ventures (NASDAQ:LIVE) is a diversified holding company that acquires, manages and grows businesses across multiple industry verticals. The company focuses on small- to mid-market enterprises in the United States, targeting sectors where it can leverage operational expertise to drive revenue growth and improve efficiencies. Live Ventures’ investment strategy centers on businesses in e-commerce and direct marketing, consumer finance, industrial products and energy services.

Among its key subsidiaries is Hanover Direct, a direct-to-consumer catalog and e-commerce retailer offering apparel, home décor and beauty products. Live Ventures also operates PeopleLoans.com, an online consumer lending platform providing personal loan solutions, and manages industrial and energy businesses that supply specialty materials and services to niche markets. Through these operating units, the company generates revenue from product sales, marketing services and loan origination fees.

Founded in 2006 and headquartered in Dallas, Texas, Live Ventures trades on the NASDAQ under the symbol LIVE. Under the leadership of President and Chief Executive Officer Matthew Raczka, the company has pursued a roll-up strategy, completing a series of acquisitions to diversify its portfolio and expand its geographic reach. Live Ventures continues to evaluate new acquisition opportunities aimed at enhancing shareholder value and strengthening its market position in North America.

Live Ventures Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• The retail entertainment and steel manufacturing segments delivered higher operating income and improved operating margins year-over-year, reflecting operational improvements.
• The retail flooring and flooring manufacturing segments saw revenue declines of 14.5% and 12.8%, respectively, due to housing market softness and the disposition of certain stores.
• Management negotiated a $19 million reduction in seller notes for Flooring Liquidators, resulting in a $22.8 million gain on debt modification that drove net income to $15.9 million (EPS $5.50).
• Gross margin increased to 32.8% from 29.9%, primarily due to improved efficiencies from the Central Steel acquisition and other operational gains.
• Adjusted EBITDA rose by $2 million to $6.4 million, supported by cost reduction initiatives across segments and the contribution from Central Steel.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Live Ventures fiscal year second quarter 2025 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Greg Powell, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

[Greg Powell, Director of Investor Relations at Live Ventures]

Thank you, Albus. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Live Ventures Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 conference call. Joining us this afternoon are Jon Isaac, our Chief Executive Officer and President, and David Verret, our Chief Financial Officer. Some of the statements we are making today are forward-looking and are based on our best view of our businesses as we see them today. The actual results could differ materially due to a number of factors, including those outlined in our latest Forms 10-K and 10-Q as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We have no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements after this call, whether as a result of new information, future events, changes in assumptions, or otherwise. You can find our press release and 10-Q referenced on this call in the Investor Relations section of the Live Ventures website.

[Greg Powell, Director of Investor Relations at Live Ventures]

I direct you to our website, liveventures.com or sec.gov, for our financial SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to David to walk you through our financial performance.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Thank you, Greg. Good afternoon, everyone. Before discussing our financial results, I'd like to touch on a few key highlights from the quarter. Continuing the trend from the first quarter, we are pleased to report that our retail, entertainment, and steel manufacturing segments delivered operational improvements during the second quarter. Both segments posted higher operating income and operating margins compared to the same period last year. As we have previously discussed, our flooring businesses continue to face challenges from industry-specific headwinds, specifically the ongoing softness in the new home construction and home refurbishment markets, as well as uncertainty surrounding the current economic outlook. In response to these challenges in our retail flooring segment, we recently brought in a new executive management team with deep expertise in their respective roles. The new leadership team is actively implementing operational initiatives to enhance performance improvements through top-line growth and operational efficiency.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

During the second quarter, we initiated targeted cost reduction initiatives, which have already resulted in significant savings. In addition, during the quarter, we successfully negotiated a $19 million reduction in Flooring Liquidators seller notes, which, when including the cancellation of accrued interest and other items, resulted in a $22.8 million gain for Live Ventures. Let's now discuss the financial results for the second quarter ended March 31st, 2025. Total revenue for the quarter decreased $9.8 million to approximately $107 million. The decrease is attributable to the Retail-Flooring, Flooring Manufacturing, and Steel Manufacturing segments, which decreased by approximately $13.2 million in the aggregate. Retail-Entertainment segment revenue increased $1.6 million, or 9.6% compared to the prior year period, to approximately $18.5 million. Revenue increased primarily due to increased consumer demand for new products, which typically have higher selling prices.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Retail-Flooring segment revenue decreased $4.6 million, or 14.5%, compared to the prior year period, to approximately $27.4 million. The decrease is primarily attributable to the disposition of certain Johnson Floor & Home Carpet One stores in May 2024. Flooring Manufacturing segment revenue decreased $4.4 million, or 12.8%, compared to the prior year, to approximately $29.8 million. The decrease was primarily due to reduced consumer demand as a result of ongoing weakness in the housing market and uncertainty about the current economic outlook. Steel Manufacturing segment revenue decreased $4.2 million, or 11.7%, compared to the prior year period, to approximately $31.3 million. The decrease was primarily driven by lower sales volumes at certain business units, partially offset by incremental revenue of $3.8 million at Central Steel, which was acquired in May 2024. Gross profit for the quarter remained fairly consistent at $35.1 million as compared with the prior year period.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Gross margin percentage for the company increased to 32.8% from 29.9% in the prior year period. The increase was primarily attributable to increased margins in our steel manufacturing segment, primarily due to improved efficiencies in the acquisition of Central Steel, which has historically generated higher margins. General and administrative expense decreased approximately $1.5 million-$28.3 million. Decrease is primarily due to targeted cost reduction initiatives in the flooring retail segment and lower general and administrative expenses in the corporate and other segment. Sales and marketing expense decreased approximately $1.7 million-$4.7 million. The decrease was primarily due to reduced sales and marketing expenses in the retail flooring segment. Interest expense decreased 5.6% to $3.9 million, and decrease was lower to average debt balances during the quarter. Net income before taxes was $21.1 million compared to prior year period net loss before taxes of $4.5 million.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

The increase in the net income before taxes is primarily attributable to the $22.8 million gain on modification of the Flooring Liquidators seller note, as previously mentioned. Net income was approximately $15.9 million for the quarter, and diluted EPS was $5.05 compared with a net loss of approximately $3.3 million and a loss per share of $1.04 in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was approximately $6.4 million, an increase of approximately $2 million compared to the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA increased primarily due to the acquisition of Central Steel and certain cost reduction initiatives in retail flooring, steel manufacturing, and corporate and other segments. Turning to liquidity, we ended the quarter with total cash availability of $26.6 million, consisting of cash on hand of $6.9 million and availability under our various lines of credit, totaling $19.7 million.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Our working capital was approximately $49.1 million as of March 31, 2025, compared to $52.3 million as of September 30, 2024. As of March 31st, total assets were $393.6 million, and total stockholders' equity was $88.9 million. As part of our capital allocation strategy, we may make share repurchases from time to time. We believe our stock repurchases represent long-term value for our stockholders. During the quarter, we repurchased 31,323 shares of the company's common stock at an average price of $8.28 per share. In conclusion, we are pleased that both our retail-entertainment and steel manufacturing segments delivered improved operating performance in the first half of the year, with increased operating income and operating margins compared to the prior year period. However, challenging market conditions continue to impact retail-flooring and flooring manufacturing segments, such as reduced consumer demand weighed on performance.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

To address this, we are implementing measures to enhance the efficiency of our flooring business, which, as I mentioned earlier, have already led to significant savings. Looking forward, we will continue to focus on our operational excellence, and we remain confident in the long-term fundamentals of our businesses. We will now take questions from those of you on the conference call. Operator, please open the line for questions.

[Operator]

Certainly. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your phone now, and you'll be placed into the queue in the order received. Once again, press star one for a question, and we'll pause for a moment to form the queue.

[Greg Powell, Director of Investor Relations at Live Ventures]

Let's take a question from Joseph, please.

[Operator]

Joseph Kowalski, your line is open.

[Operator]

Good afternoon, and yeah, it's afternoon for you guys too. Good afternoon, and thank you. I like the fact that we're moving forward, and that's always good. I only have two questions today. One is about the note. Was the modification of the note something that was anticipated in the original agreement, say, based on revenue or something like that, or is this something completely different? Could you just give a little bit more color on that? My second question is about if you have any idea about how tariffs might or might not affect any of your businesses.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Yes. Starting off with the first portion of the question on the modification of the debt, this was something that was new. This was not something that was in the original agreement. Maybe I do not know if you want to share anything.

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

Yeah, it was not in the original agreement. It was just renegotiated.

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

Any other color you want to give on that, or is that?

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

No, we feel like it's a win for Live as a company and for shareholders. We were successful in getting this accomplished. I think it's a big win. We've cut the note from about $35 million, $36 million, $37 million, somewhere in there, down to $15 million. So that will reduce.

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

Absolutely a big win. Absolutely. I appreciate it very much. I just wondered how you were able to do that, but if that's as far as you want to go on it, that's fine.

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

Look, I can tell you that we got it done, and how and why is sort of a little bit irrelevant. I mean, I think we did a good job of getting it done, and it took some time to do it, and we are where we are today.

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

I'll take the win.

[Jon Isaac, CEO and President at Live Ventures]

Always a win, yes.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Yeah. The next question is tariffs. This is something that our businesses have been looking at here for the last several months as a part of just making sure that we're prepared for what's coming down because there is just a lot of uncertainty in that area. We are doing more diversification of any of our vendors that are overseas, as well as making sure that we set up vendor relationships here domestically as well. To this point, we have not experienced any negative impacts related to any discussion or talks or actual tariffs that have been implemented. I know that since there's a Chinese New Year, there's been a buildup of inventory that'll give us a little bit more headway in the future to make changes as needed and where we purchase some of our product.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

No impact to date, and we're monitoring and making sure that we have alternatives at our disposal to be able to react to any tariffs as they come up.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Thank you very much.

[Operator]

Once again, everyone, press star one for a question. Okay. We have no further questions at this time. I'll turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing comments.

[David Verret, CFO at Live Ventures]

Okay. I just want to thank everyone for joining the second quarter earnings call, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you.

[Operator]

That concludes our conference today. Thanks, everyone, for joining, and have a great day.

Participants

Executives

• Greg Powell, Director of Investor Relations
• Jon Isaac, CEO and President
• David Verret, CFO

Analysts

• Analyst