QuantumScape Q2 2025 Earnings Report

QuantumScape EPS Results

• Actual EPS: -$0.20
• Consensus EPS: -$0.20
• Beat/Miss: Met Expectations
• One Year Ago EPS: -$0.25

QuantumScape Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $36.67 million
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

QuantumScape Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2025
• Date: 7/23/2025
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 5:00PM ET

QuantumScape (NYSE:QS), a research and development stage company, focuses on the development and commercialization of solid-state lithium-metal batteries for electric vehicles and other applications. The company was founded in 2010 and is headquartered in San Jose, California.

QuantumScape Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: We expanded our collaboration with Volkswagen Group’s PowerCo to include up to $131,000,000 in additional payments over two years, prioritized output of QSC5 cells and nonexclusive rights to produce up to 85 GWh of cells annually.
• Positive Sentiment: QuantumScape’s liquidity of $797.5 million at quarter end, together with the expanded PowerCo deal and cost initiatives, extends its cash runway by six months into 2029.
• Positive Sentiment: The company signed a new joint development agreement with another major global automotive OEM, advancing beyond sampling toward a full commercialization and licensing arrangement.
• Positive Sentiment: Completion of the COBRA process replaced Raptor as the baseline separator production method, delivering a 25× efficiency boost and setting the stage for B1 sample shipments later this year.
• Negative Sentiment: In Q2, QuantumScape reported a GAAP net loss of $114.7 million and an adjusted EBITDA loss of $63 million, while narrowing its full-year EBITDA loss guidance to $250–270 million amid high operating expenses.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good day, and welcome to QuantumScape's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. Dan Conway, QuantumScape's Principal Analyst, Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you to everyone for joining QuantumScape's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. To supplement today's discussion, please go to our IR website at ir.quantumscape.com to view our shareholder letter. Before we begin, I want to call your attention to the Safe Harbor provision for forward looking statements that is posted on our website as part of our quarterly update. Forward looking statements generally relate to future events, future technology progress or future financial or operating performance.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Our expectations and beliefs regarding these matters may not materialize. Actual results in financial periods are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. There are risk factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the content of our forward looking statement for the reasons that we cite in our shareholder letter, Form 10 ks and other SEC filings, including uncertainties posed by the difficulty in predicting future outcomes. Joining us today will be QuantumScape's CEO, Doctor. Siva Sivaram and our CFO, Kevin Hetrich.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Siva.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Thank you, Dan. Today, we announced an expansion of our existing collaboration and licensing agreement with Volkswagen Group's battery maker, PowerCo. This upgraded deal sees PowerCo contributing additional payments of up to $131,000,000 to QS over the next two years to support our joint commercialization activities. These payments are connected with certain milestones to be achieved with a joint scale up team. The first milestones linked to expected payments of more than $10,000,000 have already been achieved.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

These new payments are additional to the previously announced $130,000,000 that will be due to QS upon satisfactory technical progress and execution of the full licensing agreement. As part of this upgraded deal, QS will prioritize the output of QSC five cells from our San Jose pilot line to support our joint activities with PowerCo. Though we maintain our nonexclusive arrangement and retain the right to provide sales to our other prospective customers. This expansion would allow PowerCore the right under the licensing agreement to produce up to an additional five gigawatt hours of QS cells annually, including for customers outside the Volkswagen Group for a total of up to 85 gigawatt hours. PowerCo has also secured the future right to license certain advanced QS technology beyond our first generation QSC five platform.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

This upgraded power cord deal with new cash payments of up to $131,000,000 over two years clearly demonstrates the value of our solid state lithium metal technology platform to the automotive sector. We are extending our cash runway forecast into 2029, a six month improvement relative to our previous guidance. Now a word on our commercial engagement beyond PowerCo. We are happy to report that we have now entered into a joint development agreement with another major global automotive OEM. This JDA strengthens the collaboration beyond our initial sampling agreement with this customer with the intent to work towards a commercialization and licensing deal.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

We continue to collaborate closely with existing and new customers, and we see market traction accelerating as these announcements provide commercial validation and increase urgency in the automotive space. With respect to our broader QS ecosystem, last quarter, we announced an agreement with Murata Manufacturing to explore collaboration on ceramics production, and this effort is progressing well. Beyond their world class ceramics expertise, Murata provides particular value as a highly respected partner in the Japanese market where we see strong demand for solid state batteries in automotive applications. Our Japanese subsidiary, QS Japan, is a valuable asset in demonstrating our technology leadership to this market. Now an update on our annual goals.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

On June 24, we announced the completion of our first of our annual goals. Our next generation Cobra process has replaced Raptor as our baseline separator production process. We expect this step change in efficiency and productivity will enable b one sample shipments this year and we'll continuously improve all aspects of the COBRA process as we ramp production. To keep pace with this higher rate of separator production, we are installing higher volume cell production equipment and we remain on schedule to meet this second 2025 goal. Production ramps are always challenging.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

And as we scale our cell production, we are focused on improving metrics such as cell reliability, process stability, and equipment uptime. Turning to our launch customer. In q two, we shipped QSC five cells for pack integration and testing, including safety testing. These cells were the final Raptor based b zero samples to be shipped. Future shipments will be Cobra based b one samples in line with our third annual goal.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

This launch program is designed to be a low volume, high visibility project that will allow us to put ourselves into a real world vehicle application and generate customer feedback. We continue to target 2026 for the beginning of field testing. Last, I want to address our strategic outlook. This quarter is a major inflection point in our journey, and we are now firmly in the commercialization phase of our company. We believe this expanded deal with PowerCo is an unambiguous demonstration of both the economic value of our solid state platform and the power of our capital light business model.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Under this model, we have the ability to monetize development activities early on and then collect licensing royalties as our customers ramp production volumes. We are just getting started. We have a long and deep relationship with additional auto OEMs, and we continue to see these engagements intensify as demonstrated by our new JDA with an existing automotive customer. We believe our technology platform has the potential to revolutionize the automotive industry as well as other rapidly emerging markets, amounting to a total addressable market in the hundreds of billions of dollars annually. The challenges of scaling production remain significant, and there is still much work left to do.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

But working together with our world class partners, we believe we are closer than ever to achieving our long term goals. With that, let me hand things over to Kevin for a word on our financial outlook.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

Thank you, Siva. Capital expenditures in the second quarter were $8,300,000 Q2 CapEx primarily supported facilities and equipment purchases as we prepare for higher volume QSC5B1 sample production using the COBRA separator process. We narrow the range of our full year guidance for CapEx to be between $45,000,000 and $65,000,000 We expect the 2025 to see higher levels of CapEx investment relative to the first half of the year, consistent with our narrowed guidance. GAAP operating expenses and GAAP net loss in Q2 were $123,600,000 and $114,700,000 respectively. Adjusted EBITDA loss was $63,000,000 in Q2, in line with expectations.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

The table reconciling GAAP net loss and adjusted EBITDA is available in the financial statement at the end of the shareholder letter. We continue to streamline operations in line with the company's capital licensing focus and capture gains from cost reduction initiatives and process improvement, including the COBRA process. We narrow the range of our full year guidance for adjusted EBITDA loss to be between $250,000,000 and $270,000,000 The amended PowerCo collaboration agreement features payments up to $131,000,000 over the next two years. Actual payments will be based on the scope of work and approved by the QS PowerCo Steering Committee. In Q3 twenty twenty five, we expect to invoice PowerCo for more than $10,000,000 for development work already performed by the joint team.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

We ended Q2 with $797,500,000 in liquidity and in light of the expanded PowerCo deal and efforts to further streamline operations, extend our guidance for cash runway into 2029, a six month improvement over our previous guidance. Any additional funds from other customer inflows or capital markets activity would further extend this cash runway. As always, we encourage investors to read more on our financial information, business outlook and risk factors in our quarterly and annual SEC filings on our Investor Relations website, including today's PowerCo amendment press release and eight ks with the redacted amendment.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Thanks, Kevin. We'll begin today's Q and A portion with a few questions we received from investors or that I believe investors would be interested in. Siva, what is the significance of this expanded agreement with PowerCo? How does this fit in with our licensing business model?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Dan, building upon what we just announced, our vision for the business model provides two sources of cash inflows. On the front end, we will monetize development activities for our customers to tailor our core technology to meet their specific needs. Subsequently, as the customer ramps production, we realize royalties over the lifetime of the project. Some of these payments could take the form of licensing fees or royalty prepayments as in the power cord deal. As we continue to develop further generations of our technology, we will maintain both lines of business to generate consistent and compelling cash flows.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Payment for development activities has the benefit of being near term. The royalty payments represent the majority of the value capture through a consistent long term stream of high gross margin revenue. This business model is unlocked by our highly differentiated technology platform. This expanded power cord deal is a validation of this vision with about a quarter of a billion dollars to bring this technology to market. This program will serve as a proof of concept of the QSC five technology and support other programs targeting VW Group vehicle applications such as vehicle demo fleet and other programs under the scope of the overall project covered by the collaboration agreement.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

The intention of the program is to leverage the combined expertise and resources of QS and PowerCo to advance the QSC five technology ensuring its readiness for commercial application in the automotive industry. As part of this deal, PowerCo will be contributing up to a $131,000,000 to QS in order for a joint team in San Jose to accelerate the scale up of QS technology. The agreement enables earlier power co engagement in the QSC five production and automation efforts, advancing the ramp up of the QS San Jose pilot line. You can see that this expanded agreement is a clear signal of the growing strategic, technical, and financial alignment between our two companies and reflects our shared confidence in QSC5 as a game changing platform for the battery industry.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Thanks, Eva. Kevin, can you expand more on the financial impact of this expanded agreement?

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

The most important thing for investors to understand is that these are cash inflows from a customer. We expect these payments will reduce our GAAP net loss, improve our bottom line result, and help extend our cash runway. In q three, we plan to invoice PowerCo for more than 10,000,000 tied to development activity already performed by the joint team. Our preliminary assessment is this will not be recognized as revenue. The work to determine the accounting treatment is ongoing.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

We will provide an update on the q three call. One further point, our narrowed adjusted EBITDA guidance is driven by operational improvements and does not reflect potential upside from this expanded PowerCo deal. We'd encourage investors to read our Form 10 Q, including the risk factors well as the amended press release eight ks and the redacted amendment for more information.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Thanks, Kevin. Siva, can you elaborate further on the joint development agreement with the second major global automotive customer?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Then this is one of our existing customers with whom we have had a sampling agreement. We have now entered into a JDA with the intent to progress to a full commercialization and licensing arrangement with a global auto major. We are upgrading our relationship, deploying our high touch model to develop a customized solution for their needs, and ultimately progressing to a full licensing arrangement along the same lines as our power cord deal.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Thanks. Last month, we announced that the COBRA process has been baselined. Why was that such a significant accomplishment?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Then let's look at the big picture. We don't believe any solid state technology can achieve the kind of no compromise performance in range, charging speed, safety, etcetera, without a ceramic separator. The ceramic separator is a key part of our anode free, graphite free, lithium metal architecture. Cobra takes this technology differentiation to a whole new level. It's really a transformative innovation in ceramics processing.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Taking technical ceramic production and improving the heat treatment by more than 200 times is unheard of in the industry. Because of this advantage, COBRA is the most important technology element for gigawatt hour scale production. In the near term, this is what we'll be using to produce our b one samples later this year. And over the long term, it's what our ecosystem partners will be using to ramp their production. And as impressive as Cobra is today, we believe that COBRA has significant headroom to improve even further.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Now that it's in our baseline, our systematic and iterative improvement process will allow us to continue to build out and enhance the COBRA technology portfolio.

[Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR at QuantumScape]

Okay. Thanks so much. We're now ready to begin the live portion of today's call. Operator, please open up the line for questions.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Winnie Dong with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

[Winnie Dong, Director, Equity Research at Deutsche Bank]

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. You talked about another global automotive OEM, which you now have a JDA agreement with. I was wondering if you can elaborate a bit on the agreement. It seems like there are still more steps to take before an official licensing deal is signed.

[Winnie Dong, Director, Equity Research at Deutsche Bank]

Can you just elaborate on what else needs to be done? You know, what the OEM is sort of looking for before they sort of going to its full commitment?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Many thanks for the question. So the second deal we just announced after the expanded power co agreement is that we have signed a JDA with a global auto major OEM. Here, our job is to make sure we take our technology platform and adapt it to this customer's needs. So the JDA does exactly that. Make sure that their specifications, the product that they need, we adapt our technology to that.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Once we get that going, the same playbook that we have used with PowerCore, that same model applies that we, as a joint team, will make sure that we are transferring the technology to them to then ramp in volume. So the the playbook has been defined with the PowerCo agreement, and we are doing the same thing into our our next customer as we had originally planned. And we have had this JDA now signed and ready to go.

[Winnie Dong, Director, Equity Research at Deutsche Bank]

Got it. Thanks for that color. And then you mentioned, you know, the first milestones are linked to, initial expected payment of $10,000,000 has already been achieved and you started to invoice that starting in Q3. I was wondering if you can maybe delineate or outline some of the details on one of the associated with the next set of milestones and then subsequent payments. And how should we sort of understand that in the context of the original $130,000,000 versus now the expanded agreement would provide you an additional up to $131,000,000.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Vinny, just to make sure we are clear, this $131,000,000 we just announced is distinct from the prior $130,000,000 licensing prepaid that we had announced that when we achieve certain milestones and we enter into the final licensing agreement, they pay us. This, expanded agreement is really for the joint QS PowerCore scale up team. The team is already here. We are together starting to do the industrialization activities. And this is our way of monetizing those collaboration activities.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

So we think in terms of our business model having two cash flow streams. The first cash flow being what we just talked about, adapting our technology to our customers' needs, industrializing, and transferring it. And the second one is the longer term licensing and royalties payment. These two streams these two cash flow streams are distinct, and we are now demonstrating the first one, which is that in the short term, we are starting to monetize our joint development activities and getting a cash flow stream out of it. And as this team is already here, we are starting to work together.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

And for some of the work already performed, we are starting to invoice PowerCo for that money. And there's a joint PowerCo QuantumScape steering committee that runs this. And based on the statement of work, this steering committee will approve the, invoices that we'll continue to do with PowerCo. And so this is a $131,000,000 over two years.

[Winnie Dong, Director, Equity Research at Deutsche Bank]

Yeah. And if I can just sneak one in. I think Kevin mentioned that preliminarily the the 10,000,000 that you will seek to invoice is not going to be treated as revenue. So just so for future, like, how do we sort of understand, you know, what flows through and how the the treatment's gonna be in life from, like, accounting standpoint? Thanks.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

Hi, Wendy. Thank you. Yeah. We we did mention that we do expect this to improve the bottom line and not be revenue. On the q three call, we'll give more of an update on the accounting treatment.

[Winnie Dong, Director, Equity Research at Deutsche Bank]

Okay. Thank you.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Thank you, Winnie.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Jed Dorsheimer with William Blair.

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

Hi, team. You have Mark Schuter on for Jed Dorsheimer. Congrats on the VW expansion. That's great news. Dialing in a bit more on that, can you give us some color on what part of the manufacturing process and which part of the line you're going to be investing in to increase the pilot capacity?

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

And maybe some idea of what you're expecting for the end capacity of the pilot line and a timeline expected to ramp?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Yeah.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Mark, thanks for the question. Just to be clear, we don't intend to be a manufacturing company. We are always going to be a high touch technology licensing company where we develop the technology and develop an industrialized and then transfer it to our customer. Having said that, we just announced COBRA, which gives a 25 x improvement over Raptor, 200 times over what we had done earlier in 2023. And to match that level of separator output, we are increasing the cell build capacity so we can produce, enough samples for us for this activity of industrialization of the core QSC five technology platform, which is what we are going to be doing.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

And the output of it is primarily going to be used for, the joint activity by this joint scale of team. And the expectation is that I I I want to be a little bit boring here. The idea of it being a systematic, methodical, iterative process that we do on our pilot sample production line will be done by the joint Arco QS scale up team. And this $131,000,000 is geared towards those, pilot plan.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

And then, Mark, just to draw the dots between what Siva was mentioning in our annual goals. When we set out the goals for the year, this is how we hoped it would play out. After achieving the first goal of baselining COBRA production, which we did in q two, the second goal, with that 25 x higher productivity relative to Raptor is to lift the production capacity of the downstream sell it, assembly equipment to keep up with that significantly higher flow, coming from the Raptor process.

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

That's great. I appreciate the color. Hopefully, the increased volumes will allow the iteration process to be a bit faster, which should be nice.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Precisely. Precisely.

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

I guess, touching that's great. I mean the capacity as well. The VW agreement continues to expand, which is great. And now we're sitting at 85 gigawatt hours, which is double of what Tesla produces at the Nevada facility, the Panasonic. So what do you think that VW needs to see to start to invest in a large facility to start chipping away at that that really large opportunity you guys have for for licensing?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Yeah. So I wanna be very careful not to speak for my customer, Mark. It is theirs to decide how they ramp the the factory at the rate that they do. Having said that, this expansion of the the relationship clearly demonstrates that our interests are very aligned in this. We want to make sure this technology is transferred to them so that they can ramp and move very, very quickly.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

You can go to their site to see all the factories that they are building and what applications they're going to be doing, etcetera. Our our partnership has been very, strong. As I keep saying, that there is a joint scale up team physically present in San Jose to accomplish this.

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

Appreciate that. Thanks. And and if I can squeeze one last one in. I know you don't wanna be a manufacturer, and I fully appreciate that. But now you do have some capacity in a pilot line in The United States with a high energy density battery.

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

So I'm wondering if you've gotten any increased engagement from maybe US defense contractors or drone manufacturers given the executive orders of the Trump administration on drones.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Yeah. I wanna talk about two allied may not be directly answering to you, but but you can see the possibilities here. One of the limitations of lithium ion batteries is the presence of graphite. Graphite comes, like, upper 90 per 90% from China. As you know, there is no major graphite production in that kind of quantities within the within The United States.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Graphite is inherently dirty. It's a greenhouse disaster trying trying to produce. The best way not to have graphite in your system is not to have an anode, which is what our technology is. So we are a US maker, a lithium metal anode free technology. And the last point I wanna make is we are carefully curating and creating our ecosystem.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

The QS ecosystem provides that optionality of how a potential customer can use our technology and how to ramp. We've been very, very careful in expanding our ecosystem to make sure that all of these new applications can also be served.

[Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair]

Thank you very much.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Ben Kelle with Baird. Please go ahead.

[Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co]

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Good evening. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the two announcements.

[Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co]

First, on the JDA and then the expanded PowerCo, how many and I know you have other potential customers. How many can you manage at one time, I guess, is the question, from an employee standpoint, a bandwidth standpoint and then an equipment standpoint? And and the last piece, just meaning, like, do you need a new COBRA for this JDA and new, you know, the the back end for for the cells? Or if if you could just help with that, that'd be helpful. Thank you.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Ben, you're thinking, just like what you are thinking, you are absolutely right. There is an upper limit on how we are going to be handling at the same time because we want to make sure we protect this technology to chosen customers with whom we can scale in high volume because we want it to be a high touch model. We had mentioned in our last earnings call that we were working with two other auto OEMs, and we just signed one of them. We will be careful in choosing how fast we scale.

[Analyst]

Five q and a one. My name is Krampat Miraz. And

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

You are right that we have to be making sure that we keep the intellectual property for each of them well protected, each of our customers, and making sure that we are servicing them very, well. We have accounted for all of this in our current plans, and we will make sure that we could keep updating you as we do sign more customers.

[Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co]

Thank you. And then just maybe one more on the expanded power co agreement. You you mentioned up to 85 gigawatt hours and then how it wasn't exclusive. Just could you just talk more about like how different the process is to make keep it nonexclusive from what's under the power code? I guess it follows on to the same similar question from before.

[Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co]

The next customer, does it do you have to change the process? Or or how much difference is it than what you're doing with with, the PowerCo?

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Yeah.

[Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co]

Thank you.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Just to be clear, we do have a nonexclusive arrangement with PowerCo. PowerCo has been our first customer, an amazing partner, and we are working very well with them. Clearly, each auto OEM has their own specifics on how they like their batteries in the far in in the product specifications that they like to use. We have developed a core technology platform, which we then work with each of them to modify. Some can be maybe form factor change.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Some of them maybe specifications tightened in one way or the other. Many such things will be customized for each of them, and that's exactly what we are doing right now. The first generation is being customized for our core and the second JDA. Envision's doing the same thing for the second customer.

[Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co]

Great. Thank you guys very much.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Gabriel Gonzalez with UBS.

[Gabriel Gonzales, Equity Research Associate at UBS Group]

Hey guys, this is Gabriel on for Joe. Thanks for taking my questions. Kevin, just wanted to touch on the original $130,000,000 prepayment. Can you give us some high level color on how that's progressing generally? And what's the ballpark expectation of when that comes to fruition?

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

Thank you, Gabe. As we stated in the press release last year, the joint QS PowerCo team needs to make satisfactory technical progress towards QSC five industrialization, after which we grant PowerCo the license, and they make the $130,000,000 prepayment. Our public goals are aligned with that technical progress, and we just need to keep our heads down and keep executing.

[Gabriel Gonzales, Equity Research Associate at UBS Group]

Understood. Okay. And it's encouraging, with the new 130 $131,000,000 upgraded deal from PowerCo that you extended the cash runway into 2029. However, the stock has also had quite an impressive rally in recent weeks. So given where we stand now, how are you thinking about, sort of tapping into the equity markets here to further shore up the cash position on the balance sheet?

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

Our job as a management team is to set out to do important things that, create value for the for the company and to do so systematically, methodically, and iteratively. We value a strong balance sheet. It's a differentiator for the company, and we commit to continue to be, strategic regarding any capital markets activity.

[Gabriel Gonzales, Equity Research Associate at UBS Group]

Understood. Thanks for the color.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney. Please go ahead.

[Aman Gupta, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

Hi. I have a line for Mark Delaney. Just kind of going back to this PowerCo expanded agreement. Can you talk about the implications from an OpEx and CapEx standpoint? I appreciate the color on the one or the $10,000,000 not coming through as revenue.

[Aman Gupta, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

So how should we think about that, like, hitting on an EBIT level? Is there any margin associated with that revenue? Or just any color you could provide there would be great.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

Thank you, Man. Just to highlight a few things that I mentioned before. So in q three, we plan invoice PowerQ for more than $10,000,000 for development activity already performed by the joint scale up team. This will mark the first meaningful nondilutive cash inflow from a customer. We expect we expect this will improve the bottom line.

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

Our preliminary conclusion is this will not be accounted for as revenue, and the work to determine the accounting treatment is underway, and we plan to provide an update on the q three call. We would, encourage, investors to read our Form 10 Q, including the risk factors as well as the press release and the eight k. The eight k does include a redacted form of the amendment.

[Aman Gupta, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

Understood. Just to kind of maybe follow-up on that. So is there any incremental maybe to phrase it a little better, is there any incremental OpEx or CapEx under the expanded agreement? Or is this just kind of payments for the already existing OpEx and CapEx that was planned for?

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

That's a good question. Our long term operational plans included the bulk of the work in the statement of work. So from that point of view, the the these inflows are accretive.

[Aman Gupta, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

Understood. And then just a second part of my or the second question would be around this JDA. What are the sort of milestones? I know you spoke about needing to kind of fit the specs to the customers' needs. Any sort of specifics on what type of technical milestones that would look like or time frame in which that would happen?

[Aman Gupta, Analyst at Goldman Sachs]

And how much kind of to your to the earlier question, bandwidth you have to support that while you're still prioritizing the PowerCo agreement under the new deal? Thank you.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Aman Aman, just like Kevin just alluded to, these are already in our longer term plans. And so this work is also in our works already. And the second JDA is something, obviously, we announced the the possibility of in the last quarter, and we are following through with it. And so these are well accounted for in the financials that we have put up. And we we

[Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer at QuantumScape]

As a technology licensing company, our first job is to develop differentiated technology. And as you know, in a licensing business model, there's a lot of operating leverage. We celebrate the opportunity to specialize and to tailor our our technology to their specific needs towards that two phase cash flow, set of cash inflows that that Siva mentioned, both to monetize the upfront, tailoring under the collaboration phase, towards longer term royalty inflows as we jointly have success helping them scale up their factories.

[Operator]

I will now turn the call back over to Silva Silva for closing remarks.

[Siva Sivaram, President & CEO at QuantumScape]

Thank you, operator. I'd like to thank our employees for their dedication, our partners for their trust, and our shareholders for their continued support. We look forward to updating you on further progress in the months to come. Thank you.

Participants

Executives

• Daniel Conway, Principal Analyst - IR
• Siva Sivaram, President & CEO
• Kevin Hettrich, Chief Financial Officer

Analysts

• Winnie Dong, Director, Equity Research at Deutsche Bank
• Mark Shooter, Senior Associate - Energy & Power Technologies Equity Research at William Blair
• Benjamin Kallo, Senior Research Analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co
• Analyst
• Gabriel Gonzales, Equity Research Associate at UBS Group
• Aman Gupta, Analyst at Goldman Sachs