WEC Energy Group Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: WEC reported second-quarter EPS of $0.76, reaffirmed full-year guidance of $5.17–$5.27 per share and maintained its long-term EPS CAGR target of 6.5%–7%.
  • Positive Sentiment: Robust regional economic development continues: Yaskawa is investing $180 million and adding 700 jobs in Wisconsin, while Microsoft and Vantage data‐center projects underpin a 1.8 GW demand forecast plus potential for an additional 3.5 GW over time.
  • Neutral Sentiment: The company is executing its record $28 billion five-year capital plan, advancing gas turbines, an LNG storage facility, and Wisconsin’s first utility-scale battery park, while awaiting Treasury guidance to safe-harbor renewables.
  • Neutral Sentiment: On the regulatory front, the Very Large Customer tariff is under Wisconsin Commission review, and Illinois cast-iron pipe replacement planning could require up to $500 million annually by 2028, with no active base rate cases.
  • Negative Sentiment: Q2 utility operations benefited from favorable weather and rate-base growth, but earnings were partially offset by higher depreciation, amortization, and a projected 8%–10% increase in O&M expenses for the full year.
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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to WEC Energy Group's Conference Call for Second Quarter twenty twenty five Results. This call is being recorded for rebroadcast, and all lines are in a listen only mode at this time. After the presentation, the conference will be open to analysts for questions and answers. In conjunction with this call, a package of detailed financial information is posted at wecenergygroup.com. A replay will be available approximately two hours after the conclusion of this call.

Operator

Before the conference call begins, please note that all statements in the presentation other than historical facts are forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that are subject to change at any time. Such statements are based on management's expectations at the time they are made. In addition to the assumptions and other factors referred to in conjunction with the statements, factors described in WEC Energy Group's latest Form 10 ks and subsequent reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated. During the discussions, referenced earnings per share will be based on diluted earnings per share unless otherwise noted. And it is now my pleasure to introduce Scott Lobber, President and Chief Executive Officer of WEC Energy Group.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today as we review our results for the 2025. Here with me are Xia Liu, our Chief Financial Officer and Beth Straka, Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations. As you saw from our news release this morning, we reported earnings of $0.76 a share for the 2025. We remain on track to deliver another year of strong results in line with our 2025 earnings guidance of $5.17 to $5.27 a share. This of course assumes normal weather for the remainder of the year.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

We continue to target a 6.5% to 7% long term compound annual earnings growth rate supported by a robust capital plan and strong economic growth in our region. In Wisconsin, the unemployment rate stands at 3.2% continuing a long running trend below the national average. And as we've discussed, we're continuing to see strong and significant economic development in our region, especially along the I-ninety 4 corridor between Milwaukee and Chicago. Just last month, Yaskawa, one of the world's largest manufacturers of industrial products and robotics, announced its moving from the company's U. S.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Headquarters to Wisconsin and consolidating manufacturing operations here. The company stated it plans to invest approximately $180,000,000 to build this new campus, which is expected to create 700 jobs. Work continues on Microsoft's data center campus South Of Milwaukee. We remain confident in our five year demand growth forecast of 1.8 gigawatts to serve the I-ninety 4 Corridor. In addition, we're seeing progress for a large data center development just North Of Milwaukee.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Vantage data centers signed on to develop approximately 1,900 acres. While the project is in the early stages, the site has the potential to reach 3.5 gigawatts of demand over time. As a reminder, this project is not included in our current demand forecast. These are just samples of the economic growth that we are seeing in our region. And just recently, the Wall Street Journal reported that ADP ranked Milwaukee second among metro areas in The US for college graduates landing jobs.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Turning to our capital plan. During the second quarter, we continued to move forward on major projects. As you know, it's the largest five year investment plan in our history, totaling $28,000,000,000 and supporting economic growth and reliability. It's based on projects that are low risk and highly executable. Many of you have asked about the potential impact of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

On the wind and solar front, we are actively working on completing the safe harboring of the renewable projects in our five year capital plan under the current treasury guidance. We are awaiting further guidance from the Treasury Department to reflect the executive order issued in early July. As these rules become available, we will of course continue to work with our developers to achieve safe harbor. Now let me give you an update on projects currently underway. In May, the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin unanimously approved our applications to build modern, efficient natural gas generation and storage.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

We have started construction on 1,100 megawatts of simple cycle combustion turbines with an expected investment of $1,200,000,000 These are located at our Oak Creek Power Plant site. Also near our existing Paris Generation Station, we plan to invest approximately $300,000,000 for 128 megawatts of rice generation. To support the Oak Creek site, just this month we received verbal approval to build a two Bcf storage facility for liquefied natural gas. We expect the investment is approximately $456,000,000 to complete this LNG facility by the 2027. These are critical projects, are part of our all of the above approach to support reliable and affordable energy for our customers.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

To that end, we announced in June that we plan to extend the operating lives of Units 7 And 8 of our Oak Creek plant through 2026. These are coal units that continue to provide essential capacity at times of high energy demand on the hottest and coldest days of the year. In addition, we expect they will be needed to meet tightened energy supply requirements in the Midwest power market. Progress continues on our renewable projects as well. In June, the battery portion of the Paris Solar Battery Park came online providing 110 megawatts of storage.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

This is Wisconsin's first large scale battery storage project. As a reminder, we are the 90% owner. Overall, we are confident in our ability to execute on our capital plan. Now turning to the regulatory front. We currently have no active rate cases.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

In Wisconsin, our Very Large Customer or VLC tariff remains with the Public Service Commission for review. As we discussed last quarter, the tariff is designed to meet the needs of our very large load customers while protecting all of our other customers. The tariff would provide for a fixed return on equity of 10.48% and an equity ratio of 57%. The terms of the agreement are twenty years for wind and solar and the depreciable lies for natural gas and battery storage assets. We worked with our very large customers in designing the tariff, including the financial parameters, and we believe the tariff is a key component to help make Wisconsin a prime spot for data center investments.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

We expect a commission decision by the second quarter of next year. In Chicago, we are actively mapping out engineering and permitting plans and coordinating with the city for our pipe replacement program. Recall that the Illinois Commerce Commission directed us to focus on retiring all cast iron and ductile iron pipe with a diameter under 36 inches by 01/01/2035. We expect that approximately 1,100 miles of older pipe will be needed to be replaced. While planning is underway, our work continues.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

In fact, this April, we retired the oldest pipe in the system, a gas main that had been in service since 1861. Next up, Xia will provide you with more details on our financials.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

Thank you, Scott. Our second quarter twenty twenty five earnings of $0.76 per share reflects a $09 increase compared to the 2024. Our earnings packet includes a comparison of second quarter results on Page 15. I'll walk through the significant drivers. Starting with our utility operations, earnings were $0.16 higher versus the 2024.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

Weather positively impacted quarter over quarter earnings by approximately $04 Compared to normal conditions, we estimate that weather had a $02 favorable impact in the 2025 compared to a $02 negative impact in the 2024. Rate based growth contributed $0.12 more to earnings. Additionally, timing of fuel expense, tax and other items added another $07 These positive drivers were partially offset by $05 from higher depreciation and amortization expense and $02 from higher day to day O and M. As shared before, we still expect for O and M expense to grow 8% to 10% for the full year when compared to actual O and M in 2024. As a reminder, this year over year growth is largely driven by a few factors, including our continued focus on commission approved vegetation management, new assets placed in service and measures we took last year to offset the mild weather impact.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

And let me also give you some color on our weather normal retail electric deliveries. Excluding the iron ore mine, compared to the 2024, we saw a 1.1% growth in retail electric deliveries led by the large commercial and industrial segment, which grew 1.9% quarter over quarter. The residential and small commercial and industrial segments grew 0.41% respectively when compared to the second quarter of last year. Overall, we're on track for our annual growth forecast. Remember, we expect our annual electric sales growth to be 4.5% to 5% for the period 2027 through 2029.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

Turning to American Transmission Company, capital investment growth contributed an incremental $01 to Q2 earnings compared to 2024. And at our Energy Infrastructure segment, earnings decreased $03 in the 2025 compared to the 2024. Higher production tax credits were more than offset by other factors, including a loss from storm damage recognized in the 2025. Next, you'll see that earnings from the Corporate and Other segment decreased $03 driven by higher interest expense. In terms of common equity, we issued about $425,000,000 through the first half of this year via our ATM program as well as the dividend reinvestment and employee benefit plans.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

We're on track to issue a total of 700,000,000 to $800,000,000 for this year. This is part of the 2,700,000,000.0 to $3,200,000,000 total common equity we expect to issue through 2029 to finance the capital investment. Consistent with what we shared before, as we refresh our capital plan this fall, we continue to expect any incremental capital will be funded with 50% equity content. Finally, let me comment on guidance. As Scott mentioned earlier, we are reaffirming our 2025 earnings guidance of $5.17 to $5.27 per share assuming normal weather for the rest of the year.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

We are also reaffirming our long term EPS CAGR of 6.5% to 7%. For the third quarter, we're expecting a range of $0.74 to $0.80 per share. This accounts for July weather and assumes normal weather for the rest of the quarter. We look forward to updating you in the fall as we refresh our capital and financing plan. With that, I'll turn it back to Scott.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Thank you, Shah. Finally, a quick reminder about the dividend. Our annualized dividend stands at $3.57 per share. We continue to target a payout ratio of 65% to 70% of earnings. We're tracking in that range now and expect the dividend growth will continue to be in line with the growth in our earnings per share.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Overall, we're optimistic about continued growth in our region and our company's future. Operator, we are now ready for the question and answer portion of the call.

Operator

Now we will take your questions. The question and answer session will be conducted electronically. Our first question comes from the line of Nicholas Campanella with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my question.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Absolutely, Nick. How are you?

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

So I'm good. I'm good. Hope you're doing well. So so great great to see the economic development activity, especially with Vantage. And I was just wondering if you can maybe talk about the 3.5 gigs of demand and how you're thinking about procuring generation for that.

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

Just where does the system stand today in terms of being long or short capacity and energy? And, you know, just given the lead time to build new assets, just how are you kind of thinking about being able to, supplement that demand with either, you know, a bilateral contract or maybe a new new build asset? Thanks.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sure. Great question. And we are actively working with our large customers as that demand looks. And Vantage, that site longer term is three and a half gigawatts. That site capacity can be there.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

We're looking now, you know, what is the short term and working with them with our plans. And they've said they're trying to get to about a 1.3 gigawatts by the '27. So we're actively working with them. And what we mean that is, you know, working on purchase cancellation agreements with them and how do we get orders in place. So we're we're looking at a variety of items here because the the system here is very tight.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

As you can see, we extended the coal units for another year because of the tight capacity. And those q coal units will be retired as we bring on those new CTs. But, you know, we're looking at all the above, but our generation planning team is working actively working with all our large customers to make sure we meet their demand needs.

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

Okay. So still still TBD. We're looking forward

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

to getting updates on Yeah. We'll have more in our third quarter call on our capital plan.

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

Fantastic. Fantastic. And then, maybe as we kinda think through on on that capital update, you know, the CAGR, we all love the precision, but it is probably one of the thinner ones out there, across the sector and just you know, there is an upward bias to capital. I know that you get to finance that, but how are you just thinking about whether that puts you higher in the plan or not and how you're thinking about the growth rate as we get to the next quarter update?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Well, that's a great question and very, like you said, really excited about the economic development we're having in the region. And it's not just the large very large customers. It's also what we're seeing in throughout the region with housing and and other development. So we're pulling all that together right now. And Sean and I and the rest of the team will be looking at our growth pattern along with this fall as we present our updates to the board, and we'll roll it out on our third quarter call.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

But we're feeling good with what what the region is providing us.

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

One last one, if I can, just the large load tariff docket. Is there any, just based on the timeline for that proceeding, would you have clarity on that ahead of the third quarter call? Like, I guess, could you settle that proceeding? Or do you expect because it's a new tariff that it you know, goes to kind of a fully litigated outcome

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

at the commission? Well, I'll answer it twofold. We we kinda settled it because we walked in with all the large customers and all agreed that this is a proper tariff. And I think the commission's gonna take time as they should, as long as all interveners to make sure the processes and how we plan on allocating costs, so that make sure that the very large customers are paying their fair share. So I don't know if it's really contested or just being actively reviewed, but I'd say we pretty much have a settlement at this point with our very large customers that it's reasonable and appropriately paying their fair share of the cost.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

So it's more of a process now to go through and people can have the opportunity to ask questions on the processes and how we look at things. And the commission has a lot in front of their plate that we've asked them to approve as we continue to build out the infrastructure here in Wisconsin.

Nicholas Campanella
Nicholas Campanella
Director at Barclays

All right. Well, thanks so much. Have a great rest of your summer. Thank you.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sounds good. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin Smith with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Brian Russo
Brian Russo
Research Analyst at Jefferies

Hi, it's Brian Russo on for Julien.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Hey, Brian. How are you doing?

Brian Russo
Brian Russo
Research Analyst at Jefferies

Good, thanks. Hey, just to follow-up on the CapEx update. So I think the early indications are 1.3 gigawatts for Vantage in 2027. I suppose that could ramp up closer to that 3.5 gigawatts maybe towards the latter half of that plan? Or is that still too early in the development process?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

I'd say it's really early in the development process yet before we can work with that. We're working with them right now every week on providing their first load and working with them for the rest of the time frame here. So early yet in that process, but we'll have some good numbers in our five year plan as we pull it together.

Brian Russo
Brian Russo
Research Analyst at Jefferies

Okay, great. And can we talk about some of the other CapEx opportunities you have as you roll forward or update in the fall first on the Peoples Gas PRP. And then also on the ATC upside CapEx, I think it would be tied to MISO tranche 2.1, and you could have some early CapEx on that in 2030.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sure. So initially, you asked about Peoples Gas, and you saw we retired a pipe from 1861. So there's a lot of pipe there that they asked us to retire by 12/31/2034, about 1,100 miles of that older pipe. We're going through a process, and we're starting to retire some, as you saw in our prepared remarks. That's gonna take a while to ramp up till we get to about a run rate.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Oh, I think in about 2028, it will be about a little over $500,000,000 in order to be completed in that time frame based on our assumptions today. And and we're fine tuning those assumptions as we roll out the fall capital plan. So right now, as you recall, we only put 90,000,000 a year in our capital plan. So this will take a couple of years to ramp up, but it may be up to that $500,000,000 a year. So there's some definite capital, additional capital in the five year plan coming related to that.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

And then as you look at American Transmission Company, there's a couple items. We will be factoring in the remainder of that tranche one. They'll be looking at tranche two. As you said, it's a it's a big capital plan in tranche two. The other drivers you think of the capital plan is the economic development when you think of substations and other growth that's going on and hooking up the generation and renewables.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

So I haven't seen where that capital plan will go, but I imagine it'll be slightly higher than what we saw before. So we'll see some growth in the ATC capital plan along with the gas side of the business. And then, of course, we'll look at our generation needs to meet this build out in Wisconsin.

Brian Russo
Brian Russo
Research Analyst at Jefferies

Okay, great. And just one more question. I'm curious, will the Point Beach PPA and also I believe it's Port Washington Unit one expires in July 2030. Will those two items need to be contemplated and assessed in this upcoming CapEx update?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

It's on the Port Washington, we are actively looking at the lease and that item and how we look at that. In fact, we are looking at opportunities. Is there even an opportunity to get more power out of the Port Washington site? So we're we're in the analysis of that, and that'll be updated in our five year plan. And then on the Point Beach, you know, we've had good discussions with NextEra.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

They've been really productive. I expect we'll have something here by the end of the year. So we'll see if we'll get it. Hopefully, get it in our five year plan or by the end of the year, but things have been moving along really well. So more to come on that.

Brian Russo
Brian Russo
Research Analyst at Jefferies

Okay, great. Thank you very

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

much. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Sullivan with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Michael Sullivan
Director - Equity Research at Wolfe Research

Hey, good afternoon. Hi, Michael. Hi, Michael. Hey, Scott. Wanted to just unpack the load growth a little bit more.

Michael Sullivan
Director - Equity Research at Wolfe Research

So you spoke to what you're seeing on Vantage side. I guess, how do we assess what you need tangibly to include it formally in your plan? And then is there anything else that's kind of crept into the plan on top of the 1.8 gigawatts that you've got embedded currently?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

So when you look at Advantage, we will I mean, I feel pretty comfortable we will be factoring something in our five year plan as it relates to Vantage, what they're moving and and from Cloverleaf now to Vantage. So I feel good we'll put something in our five year plan as it relates to Vantage. And anything else in the economic development, like we said, we've got a lot of industries that have come into Wisconsin. In our prepared remarks, we had a couple. There was an article in the paper the other day about three or four other companies adding two to 500 jobs.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

So quite a bit of growth in Wisconsin, but I think when you look at it, we're also seeing good residential growth. I saw housing starts starting construction in 2024 and 2025, about 4,000 of them in just two counties here. So good growth that we're seeing in Southeastern Wisconsin. So all that will be factored into load forecast.

Michael Sullivan
Director - Equity Research at Wolfe Research

Okay. Great. And sorry, just another one on the supply side. Do you have the ability to push out any of your planned coal shutdowns any any further? And then on on the new build side, are you still thinking mostly CTs or at some point, are you gonna have to add a new CCGT?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sure. And and right now, we have CTs in the plan. We will probably looking at a combined cycle as we continue to, you know, evolve here with the additional demand. So that's more to come potentially in our five year plan here. On the coal, I mean, we extended Oak Creek six and or seven and eight.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Those two plants, in fact, have to be retired because we're using the same interconnect for the new CTs. And and actually, we really couldn't extend them much longer. We we really took the time and spent looking at the plans to see if we would build a limp of along for another year without making major capital investments. If you want to extend them longer, it would need a lot of capital investments. So that one, we're not going to be able to extend anymore.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

And then when you think about the other plants, we really have them kind of running only a couple of them like 02/1930, 02/1931. So we'll evaluate where the EPA rules go. But remember, our big workhorse is the Ellum Road Generating station, the power of the future units. We're in the process of converting those to natural gas. So those are designed that eventually we'll be able to run them on coal or gas.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

The key is we don't have any you know, we're not losing any capacity with that. And we're also looking at gas for the Westin four units. So we're not losing any capacity. It's just running in a little cleaner fuel. So more to come this fall, but that's kind of our thought process when you think about the big coal units.

Michael Sullivan
Director - Equity Research at Wolfe Research

Okay. That's really helpful. And just a quick one for for Shah, the the q two storm damage that you booked, just more color on that. Thank thank you.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

Sure. We no. We've had several windstorms impacting the Texas solar facilities in the past several years. So in the quarter, we came to the conclusion that we couldn't just rely on insurance recovery for the storm damage, so we needed to take some accounting entry. But we're working actively with the insurance providers, contractors, and parts manufacturers to fully restore the lost capacity.

Xia Liu
Xia Liu
CFO at WEC Energy Group

So as we continue to make progress there, we could recover some of the damage, the loss we recognized in the quarter. So more to come.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Thanks again. Sounds good. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Wiesel with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Andrew Weisel
Director at Scotia Howard Weil

Hi. Thanks, everybody. Scott, I think you said in your opening remarks you're still working to safe harbor equipment to qualify for renewable tax credits under the OBDD. How much of your plan is already safe harbor? And to whatever degree you might not qualify, whether because you're unable to safe harbor equipment or maybe potential challenges related to the executive order, what would be your backup plan?

Andrew Weisel
Director at Scotia Howard Weil

And then as a follow-up, does anything about the OBDD change your thinking about WEC infrastructure or the opportunity to build renewables outside of the utility?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sure. Good good question. And and we've got several vintages of safe harboring in our in our plan. We've got some all the way back to 2023, some in '24. We're actively there in 2025.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

We probably have 40 to 50% under the, you know, already safe harbored and working on the rest. We really wanna see what those new treasury requirements are to make sure we're in compliance so we don't have any surprises in the future. Now when you think of that in the future, you know, this is really saving money for customers, but we really need the energy and and a lot of capacity and energy to supply the demand growth that we're seeing on the system. So we'll evaluate, does combined cycle make sense? Is there other ways to provide it?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Batteries, of course. In fact, batteries provide ITC even longer into the plan. And batteries, the first battery we got up and running that we talked about was very beneficial during the hot spill we saw in June. So more to come as we analyze it, and of course, we'll look at every piece of information that comes in. On on the wacky side, you saw we have so much growth in utilities.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

So we put our last, you know, wet infrastructure project in earlier in the year, and now we're really concentrating on all the growth and generation of renewables and natural gas and LNG that we need in Wisconsin to support the Wisconsin economic development.

Andrew Weisel
Director at Scotia Howard Weil

Okay. Very good. Then lastly, can you elaborate on the extended useful lives of the Oak Creek Cold units? Was that a function of stronger than expected near term demand or any delays in construction of the new supply coming online or possibly any political pressure or involvement like some of your neighbors have seen? Just hoping you can elaborate on that.

Andrew Weisel
Director at Scotia Howard Weil

And is there any CapEx related to that? I imagine that would be coming either this year or next

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

we don't anticipate significant additional CapEx to run those. And what really, you know, with the final decision, we saw the MISO prices come out in the summer. The summer demand, they were a little higher. So we decided let's really pull the trigger here and extend those lives. You know, we did it on our own.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

There was no political questions or, you know, discussions at all on what we should do. But we looked at what makes sense in the region here, specifically when we saw those bicycle demand for the summer. Just to make sure everyone understands, we had these in our rate case through 2025. Now we're extending them into 2026. So going forward in 2026, the rate order kind of contemplated this that, you know, if we had showed them early for some reason or extend the lives, we have escrow accounting for the O and M expenses and of course the fuel.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

We're working with our fuel team and our annual fuel filing to factor in these coal units into that for that added capacity. So it was really a decision we've been watching very closely. And with the warm spell in June and the MISO prices, it came to an easy decision.

Andrew Weisel
Director at Scotia Howard Weil

Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Carly Davenport with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Carly Davenport
Carly Davenport
VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Maybe just wanted to get the latest pulse check on the Microsoft ramp up of activity at the data center site and just how you're thinking about the opportunity with them above and beyond, what is baked into the current five year plan?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sure. And I you know, we talked to Microsoft quite a bit. I can't reveal the details, you know, of our discussions, but, you know, that's why we're really comfortable with what we currently have in that Southeastern Wisconsin region with what Microsoft's doing plus the other economic development that supports that 1.8 gigawatts. I drive by the site a couple times a month because I'm real close there. Mean a lot of activities going on, lot of movements going on.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

So they're they're still developing and growing. And when you think about the potential deal, there's dirt and land being moved at about 1,360 acres, and then they they own another 500 acres just north of that site and another 200 acres a couple miles away in Kenosha. So I think there's a lot of future opportunities there as they continue or as they bought that additional land earlier in the year. So looking forward to it and we'll update our plans this fall and continue to work with them to develop what the site and those other sites can provide.

Carly Davenport
Carly Davenport
VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

Great. Thank you for that. And then I just wanted to follow-up on some of the questions earlier on the Vantage site. Just with the tightness that you mentioned in the market currently and as we think about the supply chain queues for gas units, for example, being quite lengthy, do you think that 2027 time frame for their power needs, you know, is achievable? And and kind of just help us think about what levers, you know, WAC has available to pull to to sort of meet that demand in in what seems like a fairly short time frame relative to some of the other projects that, that we're seeing across The US. Sure.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

And and and we've been working with, Cloverleaf, now Vantage for quite a while here, and our our planning team are pulling together multiple ideas on what to do. I, you know, I don't wanna really reveal anything yet until we get to our five year plan, but we do have a plan, and we're actively engaged in executing on that plan. More to come on it, but we feel we can deliver the load.

Carly Davenport
Carly Davenport
VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

Great. We'll keep in tune there. Thank you.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sounds good. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Fremont with Ladenburg. Please go ahead.

Paul Fremont
Paul Fremont
MD - Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann

Thank you very much and congratulations on a great quarter. I wanted to follow-up a little bit on Carly's question. The I I guess Mount Washington site one for Microsoft is is is under construction. Are any of the other three identified sites, have they begun construction? And has Microsoft updated at all with respect to the pause that it announced in January?

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Sure. And the other two sites, I have not I I haven't seen any construction on those starting yet. They're really mainly concentrated in that 1,300 acres. So there may be some work that's happening behind the scenes, but I I haven't physically seen it. But we've been working with them.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

They haven't talked at all about a pause or not a pause. I know I know dirt's being moved on all 1,300 and some acres, and I really, you know, pay attention to the forecast that they give us, and I have confidence that they're gonna deliver, and they're do moving dirt to to make it make it happen. So I haven't they haven't told us specifically about a pause or unpausing something, but I can tell you that activity is happening on the site.

Paul Fremont
Paul Fremont
MD - Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann

Right. Thank you very much.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

Thank you. All right. Well, you, everyone. That concludes our conference call for today. Thank you for participating.

Scott Lauber
Scott Lauber
President, CEO & Director at WEC Energy Group

If you have any more questions, please feel free to contact Vestraca at (414) 221-4639.

Operator

Thank you again for joining us today. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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