DarioHealth Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: Second-quarter revenue fell short of expectations due to a scope shift with a large national health plan and slower new account ramp, leading management to push cash‐flow breakeven out by 12–15 months into 2026–2027.
  • Positive Sentiment: Year-to-date the company has signed 21 new clients and secured $5 million in committed ARR, with a robust $53 million pipeline plus over $5 million in late-stage deals that support its goal of 40 new clients by year-end.
  • Positive Sentiment: GAAP gross margin expanded to 55% from 44% year-over-year and core B2B2C non-GAAP gross margins remained above 80%, while operating expenses fell 36% to narrow the operating loss by 43%.
  • Positive Sentiment: DarioHealth’s channel partnerships with national health plans, PBMs, benefit consultants and technology providers like Amwell and Solara are driving accelerated RFP activity, with over 25 qualified health plans in the 2026 pipeline.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company is embedding AI-driven automation and personalization across operations and member engagement, targeting roughly 15% OpEx savings over the next 12–15 months and enhanced clinical outcomes at scale.
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DarioHealth Q2 2025
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Operator

morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the DarioHealth Second Quarter twenty twenty five Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, 08/12/2025. I would now like to turn the conference over to Zoe Harrison, VP, Accounting and Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

Zoe Harrison
Zoe Harrison
VP, Accounting & Corporate Development at DarioHealth

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for a discussion of DarioHealth's second quarter twenty twenty five financial results. Leading the call today will be Erez Raphael, Chief Executive Officer of DarioHealth. He'll be joined by our President and Chief Commercial Officer, Stephen Nelson and Hen Franker, our Chief Financial Officer. An audio recording and webcast replay for today's call will also be available online as detailed in the press release invite for this call.

Zoe Harrison
Zoe Harrison
VP, Accounting & Corporate Development at DarioHealth

For the benefit of those who may be listening to the replay or archived website, this call is being held on Tuesday, 08/12/2025. This morning, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the 2025. The copy of the release can be found on the Investor Relations page of DarioHealth's website. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected as a result of changing market trends, reduced demand, or the competitive nature of DarioHealth's industry. Such forward looking statements and their implications may involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results or performance to differ materially from those projected.

Zoe Harrison
Zoe Harrison
VP, Accounting & Corporate Development at DarioHealth

For example, the company is using forward looking statements when it discusses the company's expectations regarding revenue gaps, growth, acceleration, expansion, collaborations, pipeline, new clients, AI leverage, cash flow breakeven, and leadership in the field of digital health. The forward looking statements discussed on this call are subject to other risks and uncertainties, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section and elsewhere in the company's second quarter twenty twenty five quarterly report on Form 10 Q. Additional information concerning factors that could cause results to differ materially from our forward looking statements are described in greater detail in the company's press release issued this morning and in the company's other filings with the SEC. In addition, certain non GAAP financial measures may be discussed during this call. These non GAAP measures are used by management to make strategic decisions, forecast future results, and evaluate the company's current performance.

Zoe Harrison
Zoe Harrison
VP, Accounting & Corporate Development at DarioHealth

Management believes the presentation of these non GAAP financial measures is useful for investors' understanding and assessment of the company's ongoing core operations and prospects for the future. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is included in this morning's press release. With that, I'll hand it over to Erez Raphael, CEO of DarioHealth.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We'll start the call with high level overview of the financial results along with key metrics that we believe are leading indicators for improving performance in the future. We'll go to Steven for commercial update and more on some very positive momentum with contacts and pipelines. We'll then turn the call over to Chen for deeper look into our numbers. I'll wrap up with a quick message on our drivers for future growth and how AI is a fundamental part of our operations and offerings.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Then we'll open the call for Q and A. Before we dive into the numbers, I want to start by acknowledging that our second quarter revenues results came in below our expectations, While we continue to make strong progress on growth indicators, especially around channel partnerships, recurring revenues, gross margins and client quality, There were a few short term headwinds that impact that top line performance. As reported last quarter, we experienced a shift in scope with large national health plan clients earlier this year. While we were optimist that the revenue gap would be offset quickly to new business ramp up, that ramp moved slower than expected. Several large accounts that we signed in 2025 are onboarding and generating revenue, but the full impact will be felt more meaningfully in the 2025 and into 2026.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Some of the shift is also due to our focus on sustainable ARR rather than one time payments, which affect some of the changes in the revenues for this quarter compared to Q1 twenty twenty five. As a result, we are adjusting our estimates for reaching cash flow breakeven by approximately twelve to fifteen months, which is now expected into the 2026 to the 2027. So while we see this quarter as a transition period, our forward momentum remains strong and we have already seen early evidence of that in the key metrics. We have signed 21 new clients year to date and remain on track to meet our goal of 40 by the end of the year. 80% of the new 21 accounts are for multi condition programs aligned with our strategy for multi condition platform.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

We have secured about $5,000,000 in newly committed annual recurring revenues or CARR, plus our pipeline has gone to $53,000,000 with an additional over $5,000,000 of which is in final stages towards CARR. New logos include some of the largest and highest quality accounts in the history of the company. This include two health plans with national scale, representing a multimillion dollar opportunities. One of them is launching the 2025. And we are seeing increasing traction from our channel and consultant relationships, which are fueling requests for proposals or RFPs flow and bringing in the kind of strategic accounts that align with our long term model.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

All of this gives us confidence that the short term gap will be closed and growth will be accelerated. Importantly, our financial profile continues to strengthen. This is not just about growth, it's about the quality of that growth. GAAP gross margin increased to 55% from 44% year over year in the second quarter. Importantly, our B2B2C business continues to operate at over 80% gross margins on a non GAAP basis.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

We reduced GAAP operating expenses by 36% and narrowed operating loss by 43% year over year this quarter. Our strategy, margin driven, AR focused and powered by AI enabled scale is working. Stephen and Chen will share more on our commercial traction and financial performance, but I want to emphasize that we are building a company designed to thrive not just in today's environment, but in the future landscape of digital health, where efficiency, outcomes and value will define the winners. I will now turn the call over to Steven Nelson, our President and Chief Commercial Officer.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Thank you and good morning everyone. Before I get started, I want to thank Laura Dodo for stepping in to handle my portion of the earnings call last quarter while I was out due to a medical emergency. She's an amazing COO and it's a privilege to have her leadership and partnership with Dario. As Erez shared, this is a transition quarter, one that highlights the durability of our model and the momentum we're building. Our focus remains on sustainable reoccurring revenue growth fueled by differentiated solutions and disciplined execution.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

At the center is our multi condition platform, fundamentally reshaping how healthcare is delivered for users and payers. To make that real, think about someone prescribed a GLP-one for obesity or diabetes. Instead of a short burst of weight loss followed by relapse, Dario surrounds that medication with personalized digital engagement, behavioral reinforcement, and integrated chronic condition management that extends the benefit for years while lowering the total cost of care. We have more clinical and ROI data than anyone in the market to back this up. Dario delivers a five times ROI, more than double other leading digital health solutions with medical cost reductions exceeding $5,000 per engaged user.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Year to date, we serve over a 100 clients, including four national health plans, six regional health plans, self insured employers and five pharmaceutical partners. This diversified footprint is critical as we scale and our health plan partnerships have grown meaningfully over the past year. Combined with PBMs, benefit consultants and other channel partners, these relationships give us access to most of our target employer market without the friction of lengthy contracting and security reviews, making Dario one of the easiest solutions to buy and implement. In the 2025, we signed 21 new clients, including a top US healthcare institution, two regional health plans, 18 employer clients, 80% of which are multi condition programs. These wins reflect demand for unified clinically integrated platforms that address multi chronic and behavioral conditions together with measurable outcomes, ROI accountability and strong customer engagement.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

This quarter also marked the completion of a full review of our channel partner network. We reset relationships, restructured contracts where needed to ensure product market fit and align with partners go to market models. The result revitalize partnerships and stronger value proposition that matches how benefits are bought and sold in The U. S, particularly around January renewal cycles. That work is paying off.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

We've seen significant traction from benefit consultants like LockedIn and channel partners such as Amwell and Solara. With months still to go, we already have contracts and verbal commitments for 2026 and our pipeline is the strongest and most qualified it has ever been. That includes two of our largest health plan cardiometabolic accounts, both with national scale, with one of them set to go live in the second half of this year. That launch will contribute revenue in 2025 while building a significant momentum for 2026. Before I go deeper into each of our core segments, our new committed annual reoccurring revenue for next year now stands approximately $5,000,000 with an additional $5,000,000 in late stage contracting, all outside of pharma.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Our pipeline is healthy at roughly $53,000,000 This strong foundation reflects both new client wins we've secured and the high quality opportunities we're advancing towards closing. Our revenue growth today comes from two levers, expanding eligible lives and improving yield. We've seen higher eligible lives from both new client wins and expansions within existing accounts and stronger enrollment yields driven by targeted engagement and integrated partner campaigns directly translating to ARR growth. In our employer segment, our differentiated GLP-one support program remains a leading entry point. We've built it as a digital utilization management solution that allows employers to control the cost of GLP-one medications now at all time highs.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Through our partnership with a national third party administrator, a TPA, we are live and generating ARR with several new employer clients. The combination of clinical oversight, behavioral reinforcement and digital tools supported by outcomes based pricing and claims based billing is resonating with cost conscious ROI driven buyers. We're also seeing accelerated RFP volume from leading benefit brokers opening doors to high value mid sized and jumbo employers ahead of the 2026 plan year. In fact, we are in final stages, specifically a clinical review with the largest employer in Dario's history representing 125,000 employees for a January 2026 launch of our diabetes and hypertension offering. Momentum with health plans is also accelerating.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Two top tier payers are advancing full suite evaluations for 2026 implementation and several others are in pilots or preparing to launch additional conditions this year. At this time last year, we had three health plans in our pipeline. Today that number is more than 25 qualified plans for 2026. With Medi Orbis, we've expanded prescriber and remote monitoring capabilities giving health plans more tools to manage utilization, cost and access, especially in Medicaid and Medicare Advantage populations. Our pharma business continues to evolve as a strategic high margin opportunity for the future.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

As mentioned before, we changed this channel from one time revenues into reoccurring revenues. This channel is under transformation and we believe a few of the top accounts including Sanofi will move to full commercial stage with reoccurring revenues. To be clear, none of the 5,000,000 in committed ARR I mentioned earlier comes from pharma. I mentioned that GLP-one is leading entry point for us with new customers. GLP-one medications are reshaping obesity and diabetes care, but without sustained behavior change, weight relapse is inevitable and cost will rise.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Dario's solution is designed for this reality, carrying medication with proven engagement strategies to drive lasting results before, during and after GLP-one therapy. We ensure cost control through smart eligibility and short scripting, promote adherence through engagement linked fulfillment criteria, and secure long term outcomes via post medication behavioral reinforcement and habits. As the GLP-one market matures beyond weight loss, we are applying our approach to other high cost, high need categories. In June, we entered the 150,000,000,000 sleep health market through our partnership with Green Key, extending our platform into sleep apnea and related sleeping disorders, a natural and scalable addition to our multi condition model. We are already in multiple active conversations that will leverage Green Key's capabilities, Dario's engagement platforms to help health plans reduce cost of care, specifically by addressing wasted spend on sleep apnea machines when other interventions can deliver better outcomes at a lower cost.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Based on meaningful ROI we are modeling, we expect to sign our first client in this category in the near term. With more than 90 peer reviewed publications and over two dozen American Diabetes Association presentations, Dario is widely viewed as a clinical and scientific leader in digital health. In Q2, a major study in the Journal of Medical Internet Research demonstrated improved flu vaccination outcomes in high risk diabetes populations. Another example of how our platform drives measurable behavioral change. We are winning strategic high quality business.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

We are aligning operations with buying cycles of our markets and we are scaling through trusted optimized channels. As we look to the remainder of 2025 and into 2026, our platform, partnerships and pipelines are well positioned for sustained commercial growth. With that, I'll turn it to Cren Franco. We are pleased to welcome Cren to Dario as our new CFO. The deep experience she has in healthcare and capital markets is great value to us.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

So thank you, Stephen, and hello everyone. I'm truly excited to be here at Dario and contribute to our mission of delivering impactful, scalable digital health solutions. Before reviewing the numbers, I'd like to share how we strategically analyze, monitor and forecast revenues in our core B2B2C business, which is comprised primarily of health plans and self insured employers. Our approach is built on three pillars: The first one retention of existing clients and members. These are signed and onboarded accounts where we expect at least 85% retention year over year based on our historical performance and engagement levels.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

Second, expansion within current accounts. We leverage our robust multi condition platform to cross sell and up sell, adding new services and conditions to existing relationships. Here, we expect to see between 10 to 15% growth. The third one, new logo growth. Onboarding new clients is a key engine for long term growth, subject to the timing and seasonality of benefits revenue cycles, as Steven described earlier.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

When analyzing Dario's performance across the three pillars, we see that the first and second pillars are performing in line with our target. Retention of clients and users is strong, supported by the quality of our products and the efficiency of our member engagement. The third pillar, new logo acquisition, is the area where we have the greatest opportunity to improve and it remains a key focus for the organisation. As Stephen covered earlier, we believe we're moving in the right direction here as well. Looking at the broader financial profile of the company, we're seeing meaningful progress also in other parts of the P and L.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

Continued integration of AI across our solution and operational workflow is delivering measurable efficiencies and reducing operating expenses. Post merger integration and ongoing efficiency initiatives continue to drive OpEx down and narrow our operating loss year over year. Successful rollout of our SaaS like pricing is shifting our revenue mix towards high quality ARR and reducing reliance on one time payments. Maintaining a high gross margin above 80% in our core B2B2C business is encouraging as it provides clear evidence that our model works. All these elements position us to continue reducing losses and strengthen our path towards achieving operational profitability and positive cash flow over time.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

Total revenues for 2025 were 5,400,000.0 compared to 6,300,000.0 in the 2024 and 6,800,000.0 in the 2025. The decline reflects the nonrenewal of a large national health plan earlier this year and our strategic shift towards SaaS like return revenue model. Despite the short term top line impact, we are encouraged by our growing committed ARR, high client retention and an expanding pipeline both in breadth and quality. Slower than expected ramp up of new accounts and onboarding of new logos led to the revenue gap. We know our product continues to work well as demonstrated in high user engagement and measured improved outcomes.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

Gross margin was 65% GAAP and 64% non GAAP. In our core B2B2C channel specifically, we have maintained a non GAAP gross margin of around 80% since the 2024, an important validation of our efficient business model. Operating expenses were $12,200,000 down 36% from $18,900,000 in the 2024, driven by post merger integration, operational efficiencies, offshore initiatives and AI enabled efficiencies. This resulted in a forty three year over year improvement in operating loss, narrowing it from $16,200,000 to 9,200,000.0 We ended the second quarter with $22,100,000 in cash and short term deposits, strengthened by our recent debt restructuring, which provides additional flexibility for execution. I'm confident our strategy positions us for a sustained growth over the coming years.

Chen Franco-Yehuda
Chen Franco-Yehuda
CFO at DarioHealth

With that, I'll hand it back to Erez to close the call.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Thanks, Hen. As we wrap up today call, I want to take a step back and talk about the broader digital health landscape and where Dario fits within it. Recent IPOs like Hinge Health and Omada have signaled how the market value digital health. It's about delivering high margin, recurring revenues, clear operating leverage and real world impact, just like Dario. These companies are now trading five x to 10x revenues and that's creating a meaningful benchmark for value.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Here are key fundamentals driving our path to profitable growth. One is our B2B2C business has delivered a non GAAP gross margins of approximately 80% since Q1 twenty twenty four. Two, our contract renewal rate is 85 with increasing contract sizes and multi condition scope, we leverage cross selling and upselling opportunities with a goal to expand clients value by another 10%. Three, our strategy with partners works. We see significant growth coming from the partnership we have.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Four, we operate with a lean cost structure and scalable financial profile, creating a clear pathway to cash flow positive. But beyond the fundamentals, what truly sets us apart is our AI powered operating model. Our generative AI is built to create value across three core dimensions. For operating efficiency, we are embedding AI agent internally to streamline operations and reduce cost to serve. To further enhance our member engagement, we are leveraging conversational intelligence to deliver hyper personalized, proactive and clinically guided interventions, boosting customer value.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

We are supporting employers and health plans clients with a measurable scalable ROI model for managing chronic populations. Our proprietary AI engine built on 13,000,000,000 data points and twenty five years of user journeys, powers personalization at scale, it's already driving measurable improvements in engagement and outcomes. By enabling approximately 15% cost reductions in OpEx for Dario for automation, for onboarding, care navigation and support over the next twelve to fifteen months. We believe this combination, strong clinical validation, high margin ARR and embedded AI makes Dario one of the most differentiated platforms in the digital health space. We're not chasing growth at all costs, we're building company that can scale efficiently, deliver results and become a long term category leader.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Thanks again for your continued support. With that, let's open it up for Q and A session.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer please press the star followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment please Your first question comes from Charles Reid with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Analyst

Hi. This is Ethan on for Charles. Thanks for taking the question. So just looking at the sequential revenue decline in 2Q, I know you guys talked about scope reduction with the health plan as well as some new clients maybe ramping a bit more slowly than previously expected. But we're just thinking, was there any churn that maybe also contributed this quarter? Thanks.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Thanks for the question. As we mentioned in the script of the call, we haven't seen a churn in the ARR of the company. We had the one time revenue that appeared in Q1 that didn't repeat it in Q2. Overall, the ARR given the clients that we have, and as we mentioned, 85% retention on the clients and the members, this is what we see year over year. So here we haven't seen any additional reduction with the exception of the big health plans that we mentioned in the previous quarter that created the reduction year over year that we have.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

As we mentioned on the call, we had a lot of new business going in that didn't manage to offset the one big health plan loss that we had at at q one of this year.

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. Do you think you could give a little bit more color on potentially any of the services that Health Plan maybe decided to discontinue?

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Yeah. They've, they decided to discontinue what would have been a Medicaid maternity program, and they insourced it. So, it really wasn't us. In fact, it's more about what they wanted to do to insource their own work. And so in that regard, and this is Steven, by the way, sorry, didn't introduce myself.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

In that regard, it just gives a little bit more context for what they were trying to do. Obviously, there are some opportunities we're still seeing in maternal health, specifically in Medicaid. This one proves a good ROI for them to the point where they wanted to in source that capability specifically.

Analyst

Okay, great. That's really helpful. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from David Grossman with Istifl. Please go ahead.

Analyst

Hi, This is Aiden on for David. I just wanted to start back on that health plan and just dive into, like, what reduction in that health plan is different from kind of the wins you're seeing in that space going forward in the second half? And why should we not expect any others to kind of reduce scale going forward?

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Yeah, so just to be clear, this is a contract that was part of the Twill business that was existing for three years, and by the end of last year into this year was not renewed. So it's not a loss. Overall, and this one was relatively larger bill when it comes to the revenues, and this is not if we are looking on the more than 100 accounts that we are having in production, at the moment, number one, we don't see a big concentration like that one. I mean, the largest account that we have is in the ranges of $2,000,000 So at the moment we see a very high diversification. And number two, the specific maternity business that we have here, it's not something that we'll not be able to support in the future, but that's not the core thing of what we are doing today.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

So we might see business getting in for this specific type of condition, but in general, we haven't seen with the existing business that we have, hence the metabolic mental health and the rest of book of business, we haven't seen any trend of losses. There is also something that is very specific for this account that was related to the capital structure of Twill that we acquired that was also played an argument here when it comes to the relationship between us, the specific client. We are still in the relationship with the clients and we are exploring other businesses with this specific client. So this we expect that at some point we're going to see renewal of relationship with this client, but I wouldn't look into this specific void of renewal as something that is trend in the business. The other way around, if we're looking into the trends that we have today, we have like as Steven mentioned and I mentioned, we have two huge accounts that one of them is already signed, another one is getting signed now.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Both of them have a very wide national distribution that is going to impact our revenues. So I would say that when looking into the big picture in terms of the trends of the accounts, we see a trend of more accounts getting signed, so we are trending up, plus a large accounts that are getting in, two of them are for national distribution, one of them is for launch for the 2025. So in general, we are positive and we see this specific account as an exception. And this is something that we also mentioned in the previous quarter.

Analyst

Okay, thanks guys. And then just on the partnership network, I think last quarter you called out like Rula Health having three or four clients live, the sleep apnea, one going live shortly. Can you just talk a little bit how you've kind of restructured that program, just the partnership program in general, and kind of the positive impacts that are coming from those changes?

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Yeah, I think first of all, our five core conditions being cardiometabolic three, behavioral health and MSK, where we have grown our two conditions were mostly around adding in virtual care network to behavioral health, that's RULA, And we're still progressing with them as a partner, targeting our clients today that would like to add in those services. So they add in virtual services or our combined services for January and beyond. Again, RULA is really important for that for adding virtual care. But then the expansion, as you noted, into sleep is kind of an extension of the conditions that we have. Again, putting cardiometabolic services together with sleep sleep apnea, specifically obstructive sleep apnea, kind of adds us into a different category and gets us some different business around cardiometabolic, but obviously connected to a partnership.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

So we're trying to grow partners where we don't want to grow our own capabilities. And we're specifically anchored around commercial deals where we help them and together we can go attack the market and kind of get some business. So, we're thinking about how we add on the conditions, but strategically adding conditions or reaches or extending a reach of our condition towards clients for new revenue opportunities. Did that answer your question?

Analyst

Okay. Yeah, great. Thank you. Then just one last one, just in terms of the cash flow outlook getting pushed out, I wanted to start on just the reduction of OpEx from AI. Can you go a little more into those initiatives and just like what's being recognized and where we should how we should expect those expenses to kind of come out over the twelve to fifteen months?

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Yes, so we are very aggressive in our approach when it comes to running the company efficiency and we are obsessive about adopting AI capabilities. So if you're looking overall, since the acquisition of Twill, we did a significant reduction in the cost of the company. Some of it is duplication of walls, some of it is offshore to mainly to India. And the third portion is implementation of AI agents across the organization that while we are planning to increase the revenues in a more aggressive way, we're going to keep taking the OpEx down by 15% in the next year or so. That's the plan.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

So I would look into a goal for OpEx toward the end of next year to be in the ranges of a bit more than $8,000,000 a quarter. That's the expectation. And then the areas that we are looking in are related to how we are managing the members on the platform, how we are enrolling members in an efficient way, retaining them in an efficient way, and also other elements in the organization that related to the G and A areas and the sales and marketing areas where AI agents can can be adopted relatively quickly. So that's the areas when it comes to the overall operation. There are other elements that related to AI, as I mentioned on the call, that related to the product performance.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

This is a separate area of AI that we are managing. The OpEx is specifically related to the ability of the company to utilize the AI agent in order to keep cost low.

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks, guys. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Theodore O'Neill with Litchfield Hills Research. Please go ahead.

Theodore O'Neill
CEO at Litchfield Hills Research

Thank you very much. I have a question about the claims based billing infrastructure. In your prepared remarks, you've noted that you're adding this. And I was wondering if you could talk about the issue this solves or what the key benefit is for you or the customer for adding this?

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

Yeah.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

For us, this is Steven Nelson. For us adding in the claims based billing, today, all of our engagement billing goes through to the admin budget of the employer or the health plan. And so as we engage, we get paid for engagement that comes from administrative budgets. Instead, we're trying to add in clinical oversight to our capability. With clinical oversight, we now get to render those as claims, and that then passes through as premium.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

So today, we're doing very little billing through premium and claims, and we're adding in that enabler so we can really get after what I would say is the larger profit pool of the industry. If you look at our competitive set of Omada or even if you look at what Hinge has done and they've been very articulate in stating how they've grown and where they've grown, There's a channel play, and then there's how you're rendering the revenue. And so we're trying to get closer to claims based billing so we can kind of close the loop on that. We think we're there in terms of the channels now, getting after TPAs, starting into PBMs, and going after health plans to get to one to many types of executions, but then we need to close the loop on that by having claims based billing infrastructure, again, clinical oversight applied to coaching, engagement, etcetera, that allows us to render claims. And that gets into CPT codes and how you bill.

Steven Nelson
Steven Nelson
Chief Commercial Officer at DarioHealth

And really, the majority of the industry, I'd say a significant portion, 90%, 95% of the industry is all billing through claims. So, this opens up a brand new revenue path for us.

Theodore O'Neill
CEO at Litchfield Hills Research

Okay. Thanks very much.

Erez Raphael
Erez Raphael
CEO & Board Member at DarioHealth

Any other questions? You bet.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Executives
    • Zoe Harrison
      Zoe Harrison
      VP, Accounting & Corporate Development
    • Erez Raphael
      Erez Raphael
      CEO & Board Member
    • Steven Nelson
      Steven Nelson
      Chief Commercial Officer
    • Chen Franco-Yehuda
      Chen Franco-Yehuda
      CFO
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