Smartstop Self Storage REIT Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 7, 2025

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: SmartStop raised approximately $1.3 billion in Q2—$931 million from its IPO and CAD 500 million via a Maple Bond—dramatically strengthening its balance sheet for future growth.
  • Neutral Sentiment: The company delivered 0.4% same-store revenue growth, average occupancy of 93.1%, and FFO as adjusted of $0.42 per share in Q2, largely in line with expectations despite a 1.1% same-store NOI decline.
  • Positive Sentiment: Full-year 2025 guidance was maintained at 1.1% same-store NOI growth and FFO per share was raised by $0.01 on the midpoint to a range of $1.85–$1.93.
  • Positive Sentiment: SmartStop acquired about $150 million of Class A storage properties, put a CAD 97 million Canadian portfolio under contract, and deployed roughly $200 million of accretive capital during Q2.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Industry demand remained choppy with a soft June, but Canada outperformed the U.S., posting 2% same-store revenue growth and maintaining ~93% occupancy in the Toronto portfolio.
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Earnings Conference Call
Smartstop Self Storage REIT Q2 2025
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There are 12 speakers on the call.

Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Kayla, I will be the conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the SmartStop Self Storage REIT Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

I would now like to turn the call over to David Korak, Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance and Strategy. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during today's call, including statements about our future plans, prospects and expectations, may be considered forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties as described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and these risks could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments. Forward looking statements in our earnings release that we issued last night, along with the comments on this call, are made only as of today. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

Speaker 1

In addition, we will also refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. Information regarding our use of these measures and a reconciliation of these measures to GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release and supplemental disclosure that we issued last night and are available for download on our website at investors.smartsoftcellstorage.com. In addition to myself, today we have H. Michael Schwartz, Founder, Chairman and CEO as well as James Barry, our CFO. Now I'll turn it over to Michael.

Speaker 2

Thank you, David. Thank you for joining us today for our second quarter earnings call to discuss our inaugural quarter as a New York Stock Exchange listed company. I'll start with some introductory remarks on SmartStop and the industry before I hand it over to James to discuss the quarter. After that, we'll open it up for Q and A with James, David and myself. Before we dive into high level remarks, a few highlights of our second quarter results.

Speaker 2

We posted a strong second quarter with our same store revenue growth of positive 40 basis points, average occupancy 93.1% and FFO as adjusted per share of $0.42 all largely in line with our expectations. We maintained our full year 2025 same store NOI guidance of 1.1% and raised our FFO as adjusted per share guidance by $0 on the midpoint. We had an exceptionally robust quarter both in terms of performance and activity. We raised approximately $1,300,000,000 of capital during the quarter. First, we raised $931,000,000 in April with our initial public offering.

Speaker 2

Second, we raised CAD500 million with our inaugural Maple Bond in June at a sub-four percent coupon. These transactions dramatically improved our balance sheet, setting us up for future growth. In June, we received an inaugural rating from DBRS Morningstar of BBB mid with a stable trend. And in July, we received an upgrade from Kroll to BBB flat with a stable outlook. During the quarter, we acquired approximately $150,000,000 of Class A storage properties on balance sheet, another $75,000,000 in the managed REITs and put under contract a 97,000,000 Canadian portfolio in Alberta.

Speaker 2

These on balance sheet acquisitions are primary Class A properties located in top markets with going in yields in the mid-five range with management upside, while the deals into the managed REITs are more than stabilized consistent with our communicated acquisition strategy. On the managed REIT front, we grew AUM by $78,000,000 during the quarter and entered into a new retail distribution partnership with Orchard Securities, who we feel is a best in class distribution partner for our managed REIT products. We opened three new developments in Canada, all within our managed REITs, including the first purpose built self storage property in Montreal in nearly two decades. We also funded loans of $41,000,000 to the managed REITs. Between these loans and our on balance sheet acquisitions, we deployed about 200,000,000 of accretive capital during the quarter.

Speaker 2

Additionally, we're proud of SmartStop's inclusion as a member of the Russell three thousand Index in late June. Lastly, but certainly not least, we bolstered our Board of Directors by adding Laura Gachiba, who is an extremely experienced portfolio manager and REIT investor. Needless to say, it was quite an active quarter. With these accomplishments, we believe we are off to a strong start as a publicly traded company, executing on the story we laid out on our IPO roadshow in March. We feel SmartStop is well positioned to succeed and deliver on double digit FFO share growth this year with a reasonable leverage profile.

Speaker 2

Turning to the industry. On the operational front, we continue to believe that 2025 will be incrementally better than 2024, but not as strong as a more normalized year in storage. Likewise, we believe we will see more normalized rental season as compared to the past two years, but again, still not quite a typical rental season. The recovery in storage is happening, but the choppiness in demand continues. As we saw during the quarter, we had a tough April, strong May and then a weaker than anticipated June.

Speaker 2

Industry move in rates continue to stabilize but are largely still negative year over year, though significantly less negative than the previous two years. Occupancies of large operators are in line or better than historical averages, but small operators have lost market share and now are operating at lower occupancies. Our customers' health remains strong to date. We've seen little to no impact from recent economic volatility in The U. S.

Speaker 2

And Canada. Website visits are up significantly. Reservations remain strong. Delinquencies remain at below average levels and ECRIs remain healthy without a change in attrition. Canada continues to experience a more positive dynamic despite a softening economy.

Speaker 2

With less supply per capita, lower institutional competition and strong demographic growth and slightly different demand drivers in The U. S, the GTA has become an outperformer versus The U. S. And that trend continues in 2025. In the second quarter, our Toronto portfolio posted 2% same store revenue growth on a constant currency basis with an ending occupancy of about 93%.

Speaker 2

With our year to date results through the busy season paired with an improving supply picture and steady demand, we remain optimistic on the sector's slow and steady recovery, creating momentum as we head into 2026. Now I'll turn it over to James to discuss the quarter.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Michael. I'll remind everyone that the second quarter was our last partial quarter of being a non traded REIT, so the impacts from the April IPO are not fully reflected in the financial results. Starting with our operating performance, we are pleased to report that our same store pool posted year over year revenue growth of 40 basis points with operating expense growth of 3.5% leading to an NOI decline of 1.1. The FX impact from our CAD13 same store assets was a headwind of approximately 10 basis points to our overall same store pool as we posted constant currency revenue growth of positive 50 basis points with expense growth of 3.6% and an NOI decline of 1%. Revenue growth was slightly less than expected for the second quarter driven by weaker than anticipated demand in June, but we accomplished positive growth for the quarter utilizing less marketing dollars and less concessions while maintaining strong occupancy of over 93%.

Speaker 3

On the operating expense front, property taxes were up 7.8% with property insurance up 5.9% and marketing expense down 6.3%. We saw muted or negative expense growth in utilities, professional and administrative expenses. The result was that same store operating expenses were up 3.5 year over year, better than our expectation. This combination led to slightly better than expected NOI in the quarter. Our same store pool ended the quarter at 93% occupancy, up 40 basis points year over year, while average occupancy was 93.1%, up 90 basis points year over year.

Speaker 3

Our web rates were up approximately 2.4% year over year, while our achieved move in rates were down 2.5% on average for the second quarter as the stabilization of the rate environment slowly but surely continues. For reference, the sequential deceleration in year over year revenue growth from the first quarter was expected and was reflected in our full year guidance, driven by comps from last year. Keep in mind, our same store revenue growth in 2Q twenty twenty four was positive 1.3%. We did see healthy growth in revenue sequentially over the 2025 of about 1%. As we moved into July, we started to see the stabilization of rates take effect as revenue growth has begun to reaccelerate.

Speaker 3

July ended occupancy at 92.8%, up 80 basis points year over year. In place rates were up 10 basis points year over year and up 1.2% month over month versus June. And concessions continue to be very muted versus last year. On the external growth front, we acquired seven properties for $150,000,000 during the quarter, leading to full year acquisitions of $232,000,000 through the June. As previously announced, we are under contract to acquire five properties in Canada for approximately CAD97 million or about USD70 million using today's FX rates.

Speaker 3

We expect this portfolio to close in late August. Including these under contract properties, we will have fulfilled just over $300,000,000 of our full year acquisition guide of $375,000,000 at the midpoint. And taking a step back to 09/30/2024, we will have added nearly $500,000,000 on balance sheet. These acquisitions, along with the assets acquired to date, are primarily Class A properties located in top 25 MSAs with going in yields in the mid-five percent range with management upside. Further, the properties are primarily in markets in which we already operate and add to our clustering.

Speaker 3

Turning to the managed REIT platform. Our three managed REIT funds, inclusive of ten thirty one eligible DST programs, increased AUM by $78,000,000 during the quarter, with AUM ending at nearly $974,000,000 We recognized gross fees of $3,700,000 and the Managed REITs acquired two properties this quarter, both of which can be characterized as non stabilized. The Managed REITs have a combined portfolio of 48 operating properties and approximately 4,000,000 rentable square feet at quarter end. We also funded $41,000,000 of loans to the Managed REITs in June. Between these loans and our on balance sheet acquisition, we deployed about $200,000,000 of capital during the quarter.

Speaker 3

The result of all of this is that for the second quarter twenty twenty five, we posted fully diluted FFO as adjusted per share and unit of $0.42 Obviously,

Speaker 1

a quarter with a lot

Speaker 3

of transactions given the various capital raises, but we are pleased with our second quarter results. We look forward to the rest of the year, which we expect to be more reflective of our go forward earnings run rate. Speaking of the remainder of 2025, last night we updated our guidance for the full year. We are now expecting same store revenue growth in the 1.75% to 2.75% range with operating expense growth in the 4.25% to the 5.25% range resulting in NOI growth of 0.6% to 1.6%. The other moving pieces as compared to our previous guidance were as follows: better than expected execution on the Canadian Maple Bond partially offset by higher interest rates in The U.

Speaker 3

S. Better than expected managed REIT EBITDA driven by AUM growth in the first half of the year and better margins and slightly higher G and A driven by higher than expected performance based equity comp. We did have that baked into the high end of our previous G and A guidance. We also narrowed our acquisitions guidance to $350,000,000 to $400,000,000 maintaining the midpoint of $375,000,000 The result of these updates is that we are expecting FFO as adjusted per share of $1.85 to 1.93 up $01 from our previous guidance issued in May. Lastly, turning to the balance sheet.

Speaker 3

As we covered on our last call, our April IPO raised $931,000,000 of gross proceeds. The use of those proceeds were primarily to redeem in full the $200,000,000 Series A Preferred and paid down debt to the tune of approximately $650,000,000 We flipped our senior credit facility and 2,032 private placement notes to fully unsecured and rightsize our revolver to $600,000,000 of capacity. With the foot unsecured and the step down in leverage, our overall cost on a revolver stepped down 65 basis points during the second quarter. In June, we priced our inaugural Maple Bond, raising CAD 500,000,000 or approximately USD $370,000,000. The notes have a three year maturity and bear a coupon of 3.91%, which we hedged to an effective interest rate of 3.85% prior to pricing.

Speaker 3

We were extremely pleased with this execution, which serves to naturally hedge our Canadian FX exposure, term out our floating rate debt at an attractive coupon and ladder out our debt maturity schedule. Additionally, it allows us to more efficiently return to this market for potentially longer duration bonds in the future. In tandem with the Maple bond issuance, we received an inaugural rating from DBRS Morningstar of BBB mid. And subsequent to quarter end in July, we received an upgrade from Kroll to BBB flat with a stable outlook. The completion of the SmartStop IPO in April is a transformational step forward with our entrance into the public traded markets, and our Maple Bond demonstrates SmartStop's unique access to multiple debt capital markets, giving us the flexibility to be opportunistic in both The U.

Speaker 3

S. And Canada. And with that, operator, we will open it up to questions.

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Hughes with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hey, good afternoon or actually good morning out there on the West Coast. Can you talk about the revenue growth volatility last year and what drove that and how that impacted your management of rate and occupancy in the quarter and into the back half of this year?

Speaker 3

Yes. This is James. Thanks, Jonathan. Just to touch base and to kind of go back in time to 2024, keep in mind, as we said in our opening remarks, that from a same store perspective, we were cycling a much tougher comp here in the second quarter. And that was baked into our guidance that we would see that deceleration.

Speaker 3

That comp was positive 130 basis points in the second quarter of last year. The comps do get easier as we go through the rest of the year here.

Speaker 1

Yes. Jonathan, it's Corac. I'll just add on a couple of things about the second quarter and sort of balancing the rate and the occupancy versus what we did last year. And I'd point you to the comments that we made on the last earnings call about this balance, right, and the optionality that we have to push rate in certain markets, right, where we saw the occupancy strength and what we saw the demand strength. And that's what we did during the quarter.

Speaker 1

And so when you break out the individual months, April had a really tough comp as we discussed on the last earnings call. May was a really strong month overall for us on various on pretty much every metric that we look at. And then we started strong in June, but then demand tapered off about ten days in and we pulled back on rates. We also did run a pretty successful fourth of July sale in late June, you can see some of that in the rate data in June. But when you look at the quarter, move in rates for the quarter were down about 2.5% year over year.

Speaker 1

Web rates were up about 2%. I will say our concession numbers are down very nicely from last year. That's one major change that's occurred over last year. Concessions were down roughly 20%, and growing. Balancing the rate and occupancy during the quarter, pushing rate in certain markets where we saw the green light, the end result was obviously we grew occupancy both sequentially and over the year.

Speaker 1

And we did all that with advertising spend down 6%, over 6% year over year. The other thing I'd mention when you just look at the comps from last year, if we step back and look at year to date, right, 2025, our move in rates are down about 4% year over year. For comparison, the same period in 2024, they were down roughly 11% or 12% year over year. So, still negative, on a year over year basis, but a much easier negative to overcome than the previous two or three years. Thank

Speaker 4

you. I appreciate all that color. And then just one more. Could you kind of help us walk through or bridge the big moving pieces in guidance to get from the $0.42 per share of FFO in the second quarter to the implied guidance of $0.53 a share in 3Q and 4Q? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Yep. Happy to. Let walk through the major pieces and I'll start on the capital side and then go to operations and manage rates, etcetera. So on the capital side, the easiest thing to really point to is the Maplevotn transaction and the uses of proceeds on that deal. So we paid off a CAD denominated loan that was priced at 6.42%, acquired $108,000,000 portfolio with a 5% plus mid-five percent going in yield and then we paid down our revolver by over $200,000,000 That was priced that revolver was priced at 5.8% at the time in 2Q.

Speaker 1

So you add all that up with paying that off with 3.91% debt, that's about $2,000,000 per quarter in accretion, right? And we did all that in very late June. So there's very little benefit of that in the second quarter results. Keeping on the capital side, the revolver will be priced at unsecured levels now, whereas in the first the second quarter of the year, we only got that benefit for about twothree of the quarter. And then SOFR is obviously expected to continue to drop based on the curve from the second quarter levels.

Speaker 1

We also took out took on two pieces of what I will call below market debt in the quarter with a 5.15% loan, the Houston loan, and then the 3.45% BC loan. So both really attractive pieces of debt. We're also in the process of recapping the debt on the 10 joint venture properties. Those properties are under levered and the rates on the current debt are in the high fives, I think 5.7 during the second quarter. I think given where the Maplebond price, everyone has a sense of where Canadian interest rates are these days.

Speaker 1

So not only will there be proceeds out of that deal to us, but certainly some interest rate savings on that piece. And then lastly, the capital side, I'll remind everyone that we have a 75 basis point step down coming on the $150,000,000 U. Private placement that will probably occur that will occur on October 1. Flipping to the operations side, we certainly expect all three of our pools, that is the same store pool, the non same store pool and the joint venture to post sequential growth in net operating income versus the second quarter and certainly the first quarter. On the managed REIT side, obviously, AUM in the third quarter and fourth quarter will be higher than in the second quarter.

Speaker 1

And I'll note the loan balance there is roughly 45,000,000 to $50,000,000 higher as we go into the second half of the year versus the first half of the year. We also have additional accretive growth coming. If you look at the implied external growth, I would highlight the Canadian five pack, which will be sort of a high five going in cap rate and that should close at the end of this month. And then lastly on the G and A front, obviously a lot of noise in there on the G and A line in the second quarter. The run rate on G and A is lower to the tune of about $1,000,000 per quarter as we head into the third quarter.

Speaker 1

So when you add all of these pieces up, it obviously becomes quite material. So Jonathan, hope that answers that question for you.

Speaker 4

It does. I appreciate all the detail. I'll hop off. Thanks for the time.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jonathan.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hi, thanks. First, I just wanted to see, are you able to share July occupancy and rent trends? Any color on July specifically?

Speaker 1

Yes. Sure Todd. It's David again. July ended the month occupancy 92%. That is up 80 basis points year over year.

Speaker 1

So that occupancy gap actually widened in July. As Jamie mentioned, in place rates were up slightly. The interesting thing about July, and I mentioned this earlier, is concessions are down. They're down about 25% year over year. So we continue to use that lever a lot less, and we're using the advertising lever a lot less.

Speaker 1

But when you add up all three of these data points, we're only seven days into August here, but it looks like revenue growth in July on a year over year basis is pushing 2%. Right? So when you look at that, the reacceleration, is already taking effect. It looks like August is shaping up to be a better month than July. In terms of the move in rates, because I know you're going to ask this as well, they were down about 10% year over year in July, but are actually flat year over year to date in August.

Speaker 1

And the occupancy gap sitting here seven days into August continues to be strong around 90 basis points year over year. So keep in mind that the comps are getting a little bit easier for us as we enter the second half of the year.

Speaker 5

Okay. So I mean, sounds like June was sort of the weaker month. It may have started off okay, but I think you said about ten days in, demand started to taper off. You know, sort of looking back, you know, any any sort of insight around, you know, more specifically what happened in in June? Because it sounds like July trends have recovered some ground and and maybe are holding a little bit here early on in August.

Speaker 5

So, you know, really couple of weeks in June, any insight around that period specifically?

Speaker 3

Yes. Todd, this is James. I'll jump in there and say well, first of all, I think what we saw was just a little bit more competitive pressure on the pricing side. Obviously, we were still able to maintain strong occupancies over the course of June, but we had to get a little more competitive on the rate front. Obviously, the market by market, analysis, but it's pretty consistent with what you've heard across the entire industry.

Speaker 3

What we feel strongly about and what we feel comfortable out in terms of our outlook for the rest of the year is, as David mentioned, kind of the reacceleration that we're seeing on a year over year basis, also coupled with we're still seeing really strong activity, right? Some other metrics for the month of July, we were actually up 6.5% from a rental perspective. So we are still seeing that demand come in. And part of that is from the July sale. We're still seeing a lot of activity.

Speaker 3

We're not having to push as hard on the marketing lever as we get more efficient on that front. And we are seeing reductions in the overall promotional dollars we're offering.

Speaker 2

And Todd, I'll just add that obviously, the housing market remains anemic. So there hasn't been any pickup there. And so I think one thing that's different this year is that rates have stabilized. And we've been able to hold rate and even drive it, as we've said, in certain markets without sacrificing occupancy. Last year, we would sacrifice occupancy when we started to push rates.

Speaker 2

In addition, we want to underscore that we are doing that today with lower discounts and promotions. And that's not something that we've been able to say for two years. So for an example, the first half twenty twenty five, our achieved rate is up 50 basis points at the 92.7% occupancy. Second quarter occupancy is up at 93%. And that concession aspect that David talked about, I think, is incredibly important.

Speaker 2

That first half of the year, we're down 20%. The second quarter, we're down 25%. And when we take a look at this competitive rate environment, we've been very clear that the market has bottomed, the market is recovering. It's slow, it's steady, it's methodical and it's not a hockey stick. And I think we've been very, very clear with that.

Speaker 2

And so also just taking a look at our website traffic, which is something that is incredibly important, the second quarter traffic been up mid teens year over year. June and July, our traffic is up 3245%. And so the reality is the demand is there. And it's just a matter of who's going to be capturing the demand. So we feel pretty comfortable from that perspective.

Speaker 5

All right. Great. That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Todd.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Wes Golladay with Baird. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hey, everyone. I just kind of take a big picture. Understand the comp story, but it does also sound like demand is picking up based on the commentary. And just curious if you think that we may have had like a soft patch just through the uncertainty around the tariffs, the big beautiful bill, and now I think people are getting back to, you know, wise as normal, and we just had this little, call it, two month soft patch. Is that a do that have any factor in anything?

Speaker 1

Yeah. I mean, look. It's it's sorry. It's Corac. I I I do think that as we, as we got through the summer months, you know, you you saw the volatility in demand.

Speaker 1

Right? Certain months were, good. Certain months were not good. Right? It just it was it was, to use the the hockey term, it was, you know, the fuck get going off the backboard.

Speaker 1

That's not a hockey term. Alright. So the thing is that when when when we went into June, we felt good about where the rate environment was. We felt good about occupancy and and then pulled back. Right?

Speaker 1

And so it's really hard to attribute exactly what happened to that demand. And and, right, we've been very clear on that from the get go that it's really hard to say to point to one thing or another. But but, obviously, the beauty of self storage is that there is a lot of different demand drivers out there. So I'd like to call it a soft patch, and we'll see where the rest of the year shakes out, but we are feeling better as we head into the back half of the year.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I'd just say that from a tariff, beautiful big bill, mean, from a customer standpoint, I can't say that at this point we're seeing any impact to date in our key metrics that we follow, whether it's in U. S. Or Canada. I think the demand is actually better now than it was last year and it's actually better than 2019.

Speaker 2

And so consumer behavior in terms of acceptance, ECRIs, bad debt, length of stay, I mean, of these are there's no significant changes. And so I do think it's probably a little bit too early to tell. But as we've said before, that we do kind of see that people are adjusting to the new normal. The new normal is rates are not going back to zero. And so you talk to enough people.

Speaker 2

If, in fact, you live in Vegas and your grandkids are in North Carolina, you're not waiting until rates go back to zero to go move back to spend time with your grandkids. And we're starting to see, I think, a little of small signs of changes from a positive perspective of maybe people in motion again.

Speaker 6

Okay. And then just one final one. On the agreement with Orchard Securities. Can you talk about what that means for the company, guess, versus original plans maybe three or four months ago? Do you anticipate raising more money, better terms, kind of a little bit more discussion on that?

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. We felt it was a good time to kind of change partners. Specifically Orchard, I think is a good fit for us with respect to some of the ten thirty one Delaware statutory trust programs that we currently have in the market. And I think to your point is we're also able to kind of negotiate a lower cost deal that we believe will help our overall shareholders out. And so I think all in all, it's a good trend.

Speaker 2

You do take a few steps back in these types of transition to new firms. But nonetheless, we have launched our second Delaware statutory trust program. And we actually just started to see equity start to flow in this week. And obviously, August tend to be a pretty slow month. So we feel pretty good about the relationship, pretty good about the positioning and the continued growth in that area of our business.

Speaker 3

Yes. And Wes, just to speak dive a little bit deeper into the managed REIT guidance in terms of what the update we did. Obviously, that transition to Orchard is a big part of the reason a good chunk of the reason as to why we moved up our EBITDA guidance. Because of that lower cost deal that Michael talked about. We are saving and getting more efficient on that line item as a result of this transaction.

Speaker 3

That coupled with us getting some acquisitions and opening up properties as we outlined in the second quarter and the underlying performance of the managed REIT properties driving incremental fees over the course of the rest of the year. All three of those components are a result of us kind of moving our managed REIT guidance higher the last night.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks for the time, everyone.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Nicholas.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Nicholas Yulico with Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Thanks. Sticking with the managed REIT business, can you just give us a feel for like at what point in the year you think you may have some more visibility on how to think about like the forward AUM of the business as we're thinking about potential impact in 2026?

Speaker 2

Well, what I can tell you is, look, right now, we're at almost $1,000,000,000 of asset under management within those programs. And obviously, they're very beneficial with respect to additional economies of scale, property management fees, tenant insurance asset management fees, some acquisition fees. They we achieved about $4,000,000 in revenue in the second quarter, which was a little bit higher than I think we had guided. And I think that we're going to see how this year goes with respect to some of the macro volatility and any recycling event that may occur, which we think is more of a 2026. So I think it's a little too early for us to give any significant color.

Speaker 2

But as we move through the third and fourth quarter, I think we'll have a better picture.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thanks, Michael. And then second question is just going back to the guidance on same store revenue. I know you guys just look at this sort of total revenue. But in terms of the components, is it right to think that the adjustment lower on same store revenue growth was more of a rate than occupancy issue?

Speaker 7

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yeah. So if we take a step back on how did we arrive at our second quarter same store revenue, the tightening of that range, right, we lowered the top end by about 75 basis points while also increasing the bottom end by 25 basis points. And a lot of that was in part by what we saw in the second quarter and what got baked into the second quarter, because of that June that we talked about. I think it's safe to say and while we don't guide and specifically partition out the attribution from occupancy and rate because we're so dynamic in real time and across all of our markets, I think it's safe to say that we still feel really good about where we are from an occupancy perspective. And we did see a little bit of weakness on that move in rate in the month of June.

Speaker 3

And so that's what's driving the change in the overall the tightening of that revenue range from our previous guidance.

Speaker 1

All right. Thanks, James.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Ki Bin Kim with Truist. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Can you just

Speaker 8

talk about the Toronto operations? I know you have some kind of volatile comps in that market, but your same store revenue cadence dropped to like 2% from the prior quarter. Can you just talk about the comps and just overall what your views are in the Toronto market and how which it seems like a weak housing market might affect that market going forward? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Hey, Hibin. So as you know, Canada is a very different environment than US from a storage perspective, different demand drivers, etcetera. But it's been a nice outperformer for us. On a constant currency basis, to your point, same store revenue growth was up 2% in the second quarter and about 44.5% year to date. The comp was obviously much harder in the second quarter.

Speaker 1

It was 4.3% in 2Q twenty twenty four. So a lot harder to overcome that comp. But still the 2% was a solid print for us in the second quarter. If you look at our JV properties that would meet the definition of same store, they actually did even better than that. So we always like to incorporate that as well.

Speaker 1

We're sitting here today in July with occupancy on our 13 same store Toronto assets at 92.8%, down a little bit from last year. Move in rates were down about 5% in the second quarter, but the overall demand remains pretty strong. I'm going to turn it over to Michael to give some higher level thoughts on Canada.

Speaker 2

Yes. Mean, want to kind of address kind of economy and demand in Canada. So in terms of economy, we have not any weakness with changes due to kind of the immigration policy, tariffs. When we from our boots on the ground, we're hearing that it feels like a recession up in Canada right now. And so despite that, our rentals have been up 10% in the second quarter and they're up 17 in July.

Speaker 2

And so given our operational advantages up there and other positive storage related trends, we feel pretty good about the short, medium and the long term prospects of where we're at within the Canadian economy. In addition, if in fact the Canadian economy gets into a significant recession, we do believe that it's going to fundamentally react in the same way that it does in The U. S. You're going to probably cycle out of some people that are a little bit more price sensitive, but then you're going to be cycling in people that need that storage because of the recessionary environment. And so in addition to that, the demand demand drivers though are exactly kind of pretty much the same as The U.

Speaker 2

S, they are different. And they're different from the perspective that demand is more structurally rooted in space constraints, urban densification, immigration patterns, lifestyle needs. And so the weights on those compared to The U. S. Are different.

Speaker 2

And we believe and we see more stronger demand from life stages transitions in Canada, divorce, death, downsizing, seasonal needs because most Canada is still four seasons and urban constraints, living in much smaller spaces and denser overall aggregate environments. And you still overall, you have a significantly undersupplied market. In concert with that, we were in Toronto for thirteen years before we started to bridge and outside of some of the other major metropolitan cities. And so we're starting to see obviously some really nice success in acquisitions, but also aggregate performance with that diversification.

Speaker 8

Switching topics a little bit here. On your managed REIT platform, can you just kind of walk remind us and maybe walk us through what kind of KPIs you're setting for yourself for third party equity growth, especially as we start looking at 2026? You know, I do believe, when we worked on your when we all collected, we worked on our IPO, there was some growth that you expected in the fee business from that side. So how does that tie into, like, how much AUM want to grow? And you can just provide some simple KPIs for us.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Ki Bin. This is James. Just to speak to kind of some of the metrics. Obviously, the the the metrics we are guiding to are two of the key ones we're focused on. Right?

Speaker 3

Whether that be managed read EBITDA, which we put out a range for, as well as the AUM growth. The equity is a leading indicator for that AUM growth. But remember, AUM sequencing versus equity raise in a lot of cases tends to be mismatched, coupled with the fact that we've got some other events that are going to occur. David alluded to the lockup of the retail shareholders expiring on October 1. Whatever recycle is going to occur as a result of that, which again is very difficult to forecast and foresee at this time.

Speaker 3

So we're going be monitoring the equity raise. The DST programs, right, those are discrete programs that have defined overall equity raises. So we've got three programs in the market. One's $30,000,000 one's $62,000,000 and one's $54,000,000 Once those are done, right, then then the equity raise for that program stops. And then you we're we're trying to backfill with more product.

Speaker 3

But overall, we're trying to drive AUM growth because it's a very attractive business and a very accretive business to us, to kind of supplement and scale our platform.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Michael Mueller with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Yes. Hi. I guess following up on the distribution questions. Considering you switched the partner, should we look at that as a sign that you're kind of doubling down on the managed REIT platform and it's really kind of a vehicle that you want to be in the longer term maybe compared to what you were thinking a year or so ago?

Speaker 2

I think we've been very clear that we think that there's benefits to the managed REITs in the short and probably the midterm. The long term, I don't foresee us being in the managed REIT business over the long term. As you know, with the dislocation in the stock market a few years ago, the managed REIT business helped us continue to grow off balance sheet. And so no, I would say that it's just a transition to a partner to capitalize on some programs that we have on the market to get some additional economies of scale, which all then creates some future growth for SmartStop in the future.

Speaker 9

Got it. Okay. And then separately, I mean, how should we be thinking of and what's in the pipeline in terms of forward acquisitions, I guess, split between the buckets of being focused on building out scale in existing markets versus kind of moving into newer markets on a go forward basis?

Speaker 2

Well, all right. Well, let me just step back. Obviously, want to emphasize that we were incredibly disciplined during kind of the increase in interest rates. We only bought one asset. In the past six or nine months, we saw some I think a lot of great opportunities out there and so in pricing and product.

Speaker 2

And so we bought approximately about $500,000,000 of high quality self storage properties since September. We're still seeing a lot of attractive opportunities out there on the stabilized front, both The U. S. And Canada. The deals that we've closed and that we have in contract are just great example of those.

Speaker 2

Those mid-five cap rates with nice management upside. And we're just encouraged by the pipeline, the consistent deal flow and sellers that are far more rational and reasonable than they were a few years ago. There are larger portfolios out there. But

Speaker 1

you

Speaker 2

know what? We've been primarily focusing on the onesies and twosies, which we believe we can create some additional value. And so we've acquired or have under contract about $300,000,000 Our guide was $375,000,000 So that's a really meaningful growth for us. It is enough for us to kind of move that needle. And obviously because of our size.

Speaker 2

And so deals in the pipeline, we haven't seen a lot of movement in the bid and ask spread. I think it's been pretty consistent. But we'll see how that occurs and shakes out in the next few months. And then from a Canadian perspective, I think that we're seeing a healthy amount of opportunities that would make sense for us. And obviously, lower interest rate environment there obviously helps out dramatically.

Speaker 2

But in addition, the buyer pools are much different than Canada and U. S. So I think overall, we feel pretty comfortable and confident about where we're at and fulfilling our guide.

Speaker 3

Yes. I'll just add to that. If you look at what we've acquired both leading into the month of December, the back half of 'twenty four and year to date here in 'twenty five, I think it's representative of the opportunities we're seeing and what we're going to target, right? So we are going to be focusing not exclusively, but we will be focusing on acquiring to build out the scale and add to the clusters that we've been talking about. So the Houston portfolio we acquired in June, that takes us up materially into double digits operating in that market.

Speaker 3

The Alberta portfolio that we've got under contract and we've disclosed, we already have three operating assets in the Edmonton market and have performed quite well. Our platform works in that market. And so we're excited to scale and other opportunities to kind of add onesie twosies in the markets that we already have some exposure to and want to increase and reach that critical mass.

Speaker 9

Got it. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Spencer Gleimner with Green Street. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Thank you. I realized Alberta is a smaller market for you guys, but can you just provide a little color on the market just in terms of existing supply landscape? And then, as you think about looking to expand any existing properties or look at additional acquisitions in the province, do you have any concerns over this being an economically sensitive market, just given its dependence on energy?

Speaker 3

Yes, Spencer. Great question. And first of all, we've been in the Edmonton market, operating within the managed REITs for coming up on three years now. So we've experienced multiple busy seasons in that market. And as I said earlier, our platform continues to work.

Speaker 3

I think what we're excited about is continuing to expand in the major CMAs across Canada. Right? So whether that's obviously, we have a strong and storied track record in the GTA. We're already operating within the managed recent Vancouver and expanding our presence in the Alberta market. The supply story in both the major metros, Edmonton and Calgary, continues to be attractive, especially relative to The U.

Speaker 3

S. There is new supply in Calgary, but we're excited about entering that market. And Edmonton is actually relatively low. It's still sub-three square foot per capita in that particular market. And more importantly, this gives us an opportunity to get to eight operating assets all within a reasonable drive time, which will help us be much more efficient in terms of operating.

Speaker 2

And I think you just have to also add that with less sophisticated operators and leveraging our platform, I think it's a recipe for some really nice growth in those markets in various economic times.

Speaker 10

Okay. Great. And then have there been any deal opportunities or underwriting in terms of the Maritime provinces? I just know that there is a substantial amount of supply in those markets, especially on the residential side, so potentially a good indicator for future demand.

Speaker 3

Yeah. What I'll say is we see everything in Canada, and our major focus is the top six CMAs. Right? We want to be in those top six markets, which is the GTA, Vancouver, Montreal, Edmonton, Calgary, Ottawa. That's our focus.

Speaker 3

We still look at those, and they come across our desk. But to your point, if there's not the population density, then it's going to we're not going to be penciling those deals and looking to acquire them. There's a lot of ripe opportunities for us to grow in the major markets in Canada first.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Matt Kornack with National Bank. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Hey guys, sorry to keep on the Canada theme here, but there's been some pretty sizable transactions in Toronto as well as West ridiculously low cap rates, it looks like. Does that make it more difficult for you to acquire? And have you thought of maybe kind of doing some capital recycling within the existing portfolio given where some of those assets have traded?

Speaker 2

Well, I think that's good news, bad news, right? Good news is, I saw the opportunity in 2010 and we've built upon it and we've created an amazing portfolio. I think the bad news is that cap rates in some of those deals were incredibly low. Believe one of them was a 2.5% cap rate. However, from my understanding, that buyer is not trying to buy anymore.

Speaker 2

They're trying to just figure out day to day operations with what they're doing. So I think from our perspective, Canada is really a marathon. It's not a sprint. And I think we've built just a high quality portfolio in Toronto, and we're now starting to build a high quality portfolio in the major metropolitan cities. I think that there's just a tremendous amount of additional growth that I think that we can achieve in undersupplied markets that have a lack of, I think, some sophisticated institutional markets.

Speaker 2

And so I think from our perspective, we're in a growth mode. We have a very strong pipeline of development deals. Primarily, they'll probably go in our managed REITs because they'd be dilutive to SmartStop. And so I think that there will always be certain times in cycles where you can point to was that a potential recycling event. I can now look back and say, you know what, you look back and say, if you had recycled, you would have probably sold a lot less than what the value of that real estate and the additional cash flow on a go forward basis.

Speaker 3

I think the other thing as it relates to this question that's important to keep in mind is, in a way, recycle. We levered up in Canadian dollars through the Maple Bond. We leveraged the portfolio that we've created thus far in the GTA at very attractive financing, and we brought it back across border and deployed it at mid- to high five cap rate deals that we acquired in The States. Right? So that is an attractive opportunity for us to, in essence, recycle capital without actually selling assets.

Speaker 11

Makes sense. Maybe switching to The States. As we think of kind of a rebound in space, is there a single kind of forward looking indicator or catalyst, whether it's housing market transactions or something to that effect that we should be looking for to kind of give us comfort that we are in fact inflecting and that demand is going to pick up?

Speaker 2

Well, I mean, look, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I think the first thing is you've got to focus on supply, okay? We had a ten year cycle supply. Should have been a five year, then COVID hit and became ten years. And so I think that we're first focusing on supply and we're starting to see obviously real absorption accruing. It's going slow We all want it to happen now.

Speaker 2

We all want it to be a hockey stick, but it's not. And the good news with that is it's going to keep developers on the sideline for a much longer period of time. So as we get through this choppiness, I can see some better days ahead for storage because of that supply being, I think, going to be more muted than maybe we all think in the future. And so first, I want to focus on supply. In addition, yes, it would be nice to have a robust full housing recovery in The U.

Speaker 2

S. And so I think they're we're all waiting for it. We're all prepared. But I find what's interesting without the housing recovery, how we've actually performed. Storage operators now have better technology, better sophistication, better access to data.

Speaker 2

I think in our just small portfolio, we're making now $3,000,000 pricing changes on a monthly basis. We are modifying our approach based on supply and overall aggregate demand. So one, we're going to focus on supply two, we're going to focus on our portfolio and optimize the best we can. We've showed that we've been focused more on rate than promotions and discounts. And yes, when that next driver, whatever that is, is it housing rentals, is it COVID-two, is it hurricanes, earthquakes, whatever that additional driver for storage, SmartStop Storage is prepared to capture the upside in those environments.

Speaker 11

Great. Thanks. Appreciate the color.

Speaker 8

Thanks, Bob.

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time. H. Michael Swartz, I turn the call back over to you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. It's been an amazing first four months as a publicly traded company. We look forward to the next two quarters in 2026. Thank you for your time and your interest in SmartSOP Cell Storage, the smarter way to store. Have a great day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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