Encore Capital Group Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Record second-quarter performance with portfolio purchases up 32% YoY to $367 M, collections up 20% to $655 M, and ERC rising 12% to $9.4 B, alongside $15 M in Q2 share repurchases.
  • Positive Sentiment: Midland Credit Management (MCM) delivered record US results with $317 M in portfolio purchases (up 34%) and $490 M in collections (up 24%), benefiting from robust supply and attractive pricing.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Cabot Credit Management maintained portfolio purchases at $50 M and grew collections 10% (4% in constant currency) despite subdued UK lending, low delinquencies, and strong competition.
  • Positive Sentiment: Raised 2025 guidance expects global collections to grow ~15.5% to $2.5 B (up from 11% prior) and portfolio purchasing to exceed $1.35 B, with interest expense around $285 M.
  • Positive Sentiment: Strong balance sheet and liquidity with leverage at 2.6x, $340 M of added facility capacity, no material debt maturities until 2028, and competitive funding costs.
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Earnings Conference Call
Encore Capital Group Q2 2025
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There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, everyone, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Encore Capital Group's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press 11 on your telephone.

Operator

You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Bruce Thomas, VP of Global Investor Relations for Encore. Bruce, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to Oncor Capital Group's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Ashish Masih, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Hernan, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Ryan Bell, President of Midland Credit Management, and John Young, President of Cabot Credit Management. Ashish and Tomas will make prepared remarks today, and then we'll be happy to take your questions. Unless otherwise noted, comparisons on this conference call will be made between the second quarter of twenty twenty five and the 2024.

Speaker 1

In addition, today's discussion will include forward looking statements that are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from our expectations. Please refer to our SEC filings for a detailed discussion of potential risks and uncertainties. We undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statement. During this call, we will use rounding and abbreviations for the sake of brevity.

Speaker 1

We will also be discussing non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our investor presentation, is available on the Investors section of our website. As a reminder, following the conclusion of this call, a replay of this conference call along with our prepared remarks will also be available on the Investors section of our website. With that, let me turn the call over to Ashish Masih, our President and Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Bruce, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Encore delivered another strong performance in the second quarter, which is reflected in our financial metrics across the board. Portfolio purchases in Q2 of $367,000,000 were up 32% compared to the second quarter last year. Collections increased 20% to a record $655,000,000 Estimated Remaining Collections, or ERC, increased 12% to a record $9,400,000,000 Our record collections performance helped earnings increase sharply with Q2 earnings per share of $2.49 up 86% compared to the second quarter a year ago.

Speaker 2

Our leverage improved to 2.6 times at the end of Q2, compared to 2.7 times a year ago, and was flat compared to Q1 twenty twenty five, despite significant portfolio purchasing again in the second quarter. Additionally, we continued our share repurchases in Q2, purchasing $15,000,000 of Oncor shares in the quarter, bringing our total to $25,000,000 for the first half of the year. Our MCM business in The U. S. Continues to deliver very strong results.

Speaker 2

Empowered by the ongoing favorable supply environment, MCM portfolio purchases in the second quarter were a record $317,000,000 at very attractive returns. MCM also delivered record collections of $490,000,000 in Q2, up 24% compared to Q2 a year ago. Turning to Europe, our Cabot business delivered a solid second quarter. Portfolio purchases of $50,000,000 were in line with the historical trend. Cabot's collections of $164,000,000 were up 10% compared to a year ago as reported, and were up 4% in constant currency.

Speaker 2

At this time, I believe it's helpful to remind investors of the critical role we play in the consumer credit ecosystem, by assisting in the resolution of unpaid debts. These unpaid debts are an expected and necessary outcome of the lending business model. Our mission is to create pathways to economic freedom for the consumers we serve by helping them resolve their past due debts. We achieved this by engaging consumers in honest, empathetic, and respectful conversations. Our business is to purchase portfolios of non performing loans at attractive returns, while minimizing funding costs.

Speaker 2

For each portfolio that we own, we strive to exceed our collection expectations, while both maintaining an efficient cost structure and ensuring the highest level of compliance and consumer focus. We achieved these objectives through a three pillar strategy. This strategy enables us to deliver outstanding performance and positions us well to capitalize on future opportunities. We believe this is instrumental for building long term shareholder value. The first pillar of our strategy, market focus, concentrates our efforts on the markets where we can achieve the highest risk adjusted returns.

Speaker 2

To that end, we pursue business in countries where the credit markets are large and have consistent flows of purchasing opportunities. We believe the best markets have a strong regulatory framework, have sophisticated sellers who make data available, and where we can achieve stable long term returns. The markets we have chosen share these characteristics. As a reminder, our largest business, Midland Credit Management, or MCM, is in The United States, where it has been operating for over twenty five years and is the leader in the world's most valuable market. Cabot Credit Management has been operating for over twenty years and is one of the largest players in United Kingdom and continues to build a stronger presence in the European markets of France and Spain.

Speaker 2

We recently released the third edition of our Economic Freedom Study, which is a part of our continuing commitment to understand consumers' personal finances in The US and The UK, and how they plan to manage past due debt. The detailed report, as well as a summary of key findings, can be found on our website. I would now like to highlight Encore's second quarter performance in terms of several key metrics, starting with portfolio purchasing. Encore's global portfolio purchases for the quarter were $367,000,000 an increase of 32% compared to Q2 twenty twenty four. This increased level of purchasing will help drive Oncor's continued collections growth in 2025 and beyond.

Speaker 2

Our concentration of portfolio purchases in The U. S, where we allocated 86% of our deployed capital in the second quarter, is a reminder that the flexibility of our global funding structure allows us to direct our capital toward markets with the highest returns. Global collections in Q2 were up 20% to a record six fifty five million dollars After several years of lower deployments, the past few years of higher portfolio purchases had strong returns, particularly in The U. S, have led to meaningful growth in collections, which we expect to continue. Our global collections performance year to date, through the second quarter, compared to our ERC at the 2024, was 107%.

Speaker 2

We believe that our ability to generate significant cash provides us with an important competitive advantage, which is also a key component of a three pillar strategy. Similar to the dynamic I mentioned earlier, higher portfolio purchases at strong returns over the past few years have also led to meaningful growth in cash generation. Our cash generation for the second quarter on a trailing twelve month basis was up 23% compared to the same period a year ago. Let's now take a look at our two largest markets, beginning with The US. The US Federal Reserve reports that revolving credit in The US remains near record levels.

Speaker 2

At the same time, since bottoming out in late twenty twenty one, the credit card charge off rate in The US has increased to its highest level in more than ten years, and remains at an elevated level. The combination of strong lending and elevated charge off rates continues to drive robust portfolio supply in The US. Similarly, US consumer credit card delinquencies, which are a leading indicator of future charge offs, also remain near multi year highs. With both lending and the charge off rate at elevated levels, purchasing conditions in The U. S.

Speaker 2

Market remain highly favorable. We are observing continued strong U. S. Market supply and attractive pricing as well. Second quarter delinquency data supports our expectation that 2025 will be another record year of portfolio purchasing by our MCM business in The US.

Speaker 2

After surging to its highest level ever in 2024, portfolio supply in The US market remains robust. MCM continues to capture significant portions of this opportunity, deploying a record $317,000,000 in Q2 at very strong returns. This was a 34% increase in portfolio purchases, compared to Q2 a year ago. In addition to its record portfolio purchases in Q2, our MCM business continues to excel operationally. MCM collections in the second quarter were a record $490,000,000 an increase of 24% compared to Q2 last year, driven by strong execution in what is typically a seasonally strong first half of the year.

Speaker 2

Consumer payment behavior in The US remains stable. Turning to our business in Europe. Cabot delivered solid performance in the 2025. Collections in Q2 were $164,000,000 up 10% compared to Q2 last year as reported, and were up 4% in constant currency. Cabot's portfolio purchases in the first quarter were $50,000,000 in line with the historical trend.

Speaker 2

We continue to be selective with Cabot's deployments, as The UK market remains impacted by subdued consumer lending and low delinquencies, in addition to continued robust competition. I'd now like to hand the call over to Tomas for a more detailed look at our financial results.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ashish. Moving to the financial results slide. In the second quarter, we delivered a strong growth in collections and portfolio revenue of 2012% respectively. A strong collections performance was supported by record levels of US portfolio purchases in recent quarters, a stable consumer behavior, our focus on operational execution and seasonality tailwinds, particularly in The US. Collection yield was 64.4% in Q2, an improvement of 2.9 percentage points compared to last year.

Speaker 3

Portfolio revenue increased by 12% to $361,000,000 supported by 14% growth in average receivable portfolios and a portfolio yield of 35.5%. As a reminder, changes in recoveries is the sum of two numbers. First, recoveries above or below forecast is the amount we collected above or below our ERC expectation for the quarter and is also known as cash overs or cash unders. Second, changes in expected future recoveries is the net present value of changes in the ERC forecast beyond the current quarter. Changes in recoveries were $55,600,000 for the quarter.

Speaker 3

Of that total, the vast majority, 52,300,000.0, were recoveries above forecast. Changes in expected future recoveries were $3,300,000 Both of our businesses, MCM in The US and Cabot in Europe, were once again net positive contributors to changes in recoveries. Put differently, we collected $52,300,000 more than we forecasted in our ERC, which is incremental cash flow. This is an outstanding result that reflects the effectiveness of our collection platforms and the strength of the consumer. Despite some of the negative news and macro uncertainty in The US, our consumers' payment behavior remains stable.

Speaker 3

We continue to monitor for any signs of change. Debt purchasing revenue increased by 27% to $417,000,000 and the resulting debt purchasing yield was 41%. Approximately 5.5% was the impact of changes in recoveries. Servicing and other revenues were $25,000,000 bringing total revenue to $442,000,000 reflecting growth of 24%. Operating expenses increased by 15% to $291,000,000 compared to 20% growth in collections.

Speaker 3

Operating expenses growth continued to be driven by onboarding of new portfolios resulting from increased purchasing levels in recent quarters. Cash efficiency margin for the quarter improved one percentage point to 57.3% compared to 56.2% in Q2 last year. We expect cash efficiency margin to remain near current levels for the remainder of the year. Interest expense and other income increased by 23 to $73,000,000 reflecting higher debt balances as well as higher interest rates from bond issuances in 2024. Our tax provision of $19,000,000 implies a corporate tax rate of approximately 25%, which is in line with our previous guidance.

Speaker 3

Finally, net income increased by 82% to $59,000,000 resulting in earnings per share for the quarter of $2.49 compared to $1.34 in Q2 last year. To conclude, we delivered a solid quarter through strong operational execution and financial discipline. We believe our balance sheet provides us with very competitive funding costs when compared to our peers. Our funding structure also provides us with financial flexibility and diversified funding sources to compete effectively in this growing supply environment. The leverage grows at 2.6 times or 0.1 times improvement versus last year and flat versus the previous quarter.

Speaker 3

During Q2, we increased the size of our RCF by $190,000,000 to $1,485,000,000 and extended its maturity to 2029. In July, we increased the size of our US facility by $150,000,000 to $450,000,000 and extended its maturity to 2028. The combination of those two transactions improved our liquidity by up to $340,000,000 As a result of our actions in May and July, we don't have any material maturities until 2028, and we have a strong liquidity to continue to grow our U. S. Business in 2025 and beyond.

Speaker 3

With that, I would like to turn it back over to Ashish.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tomas. Now I would like to remind everyone of our key financial objectives and priorities, Maintaining a strong and flexible balance sheet, including a strong BB debt rating, as well as operating within our target leverage range of two to three times remain critical objectives. With regard to our capital allocation priorities, buying portfolios, particularly in today's attractive U. S. Market, offers the best opportunity to create long term shareholder value by deploying capital at attractive returns.

Speaker 2

This is indeed what we are doing, as highlighted by our recent purchasing history. Next on our capital allocation priority list are share repurchases. We repurchased $15,000,000 of Encore shares in the second quarter, consistent with the framework we've laid out in the past. This brings our total share repurchases to $25,000,000 for the first half of the year. Before I close, I'd like to summarize where we stand today and how the year is progressing.

Speaker 2

The U. S. Market continues to be very favorable, with a robust supply of portfolios available for purchase at strong returns. As a result, we continue to allocate the vast majority of our capital to The U. S.

Speaker 2

Market and expect MCM's purchasing to again grow in 2025. MCM is also collecting very effectively on these purchases and powering OnCore's collections growth. In the European market at Cabot, we are staying disciplined and expect to continue purchasing at a level similar to the 2025. In terms of operations, Cabot continues to deliver stable collections performance. Overall, if you look back at the past several quarters, our actions have led to very strong purchasing and a positive growth trend in collections and cash generation.

Speaker 2

And I feel really good about our position, how the year is going, and expect this momentum to continue. And so, as a result of our strong first half of the year, and a positive outlook for the remainder of 2025, we are providing the following guidance on key metrics for the year. As we originally guided, we anticipate global portfolio purchasing in 2025 to exceed the $1,350,000,000 of purchases we made in 2024, as MCM is poised to surpass the record level of purchasing of a year ago. However, we are raising our guidance on global collections. We now expect global collections to grow by approximately 15.5% to $2,500,000,000 This is an increase from a prior 11% growth expectation.

Speaker 2

We also continue to expect interest expense of approximately $285,000,000 for the year. And we expect our effective tax rate for the year to be in the mid-20s on a percentage basis. Now, we'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Operator, please open up the lines for questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. First question comes from Mark Hughes of Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Good afternoon.

Speaker 2

Hey, Mark.

Speaker 4

Damas, the guidance for the $285,000,000 for the full year, was there any one timers in the second quarter that the $74,000,000 is what I'm looking at? Just assuming that if it stayed at that level for the balance of the year, that would come in above your guidance. Just want to make sure I understand if there's any moving parts there?

Speaker 3

No. I think it's the $2.85 is roughly what we're expecting to close the year. So we shouldn't we don't anticipate anyone else there.

Speaker 4

Okay. Very good. And then The US supply, Ashish, your updated charts on charge off rates and delinquencies show a little bit of a downtick. What do you think is going to happen the balance of the year? What do you think that means for supply?

Speaker 4

I hear your point. It sounds like you're in a very favorable environment now, but how will that trend in the coming periods?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Mark. The overall supply, kind of if you multiply the two, remains at an elevated level. And all the issuers who sell are selling at very strong levels. So, we remain very confident in our purchasing ability. And MCM, as I stated, is expected to surpass its 2024 record in 2025 in terms of total purchasing.

Speaker 2

So, yeah, quarter to quarter, there could be ups and downs here and there a little bit, but overall, favorable environment in terms of supply, in terms of pricing, in our ability to compete and win the portfolios we want, given how well we are collecting in MCM and how we liquidate the portfolios as a multiple show. So for rest of the year, we feel very good and expect a very strong momentum in purchasing and collecting and expect MCM to exceed its 2024 record on purchasing.

Speaker 4

And then one final question. Do you have the updated collections multiples for the MCM and Cabot in the core paper? I I think the queue is probably coming out soon, and maybe we'll we'll see it then. But

Speaker 2

Yes. So for 2025 vintage for MCM, the multiple is at 2.3 in the queue. And for Cabot, the multiple is 2.4 for the 2025 vintage.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

You're welcome. Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Mike Grondahl of Northland. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hey guys, collections year over year growth at 20% has stepped up nicely. It sounded like you guys were calling out two things recent several quarters of higher purchase levels and just a stable U. S. Consumer. Anything else to add to that?

Speaker 2

I would say, Mike, a couple of things. There's you highlight the two correct points on stable US consumer as well as purchasing, but also the MCM business operationally is performing very well and driving innovation. So, we are seeing kind of more performance improvement in our call center and digital channel. That's more in the early stages of a vintage. So, that's where we are seeing, and we are seeing really good performance and are confident about that continuing and, hence, raising the overall collections guidance for Encore to 2,500,000,000.0, which will be about 15.5% compared to our earlier guidance six months ago of 11%.

Speaker 5

Got it. And I think you said global collections were 107% of expectations. Can you break that out for The US and Cabot?

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's in our presentation and slide deck, I think, on page six. So it was 107 globally, 106 for MCM, and 111 for Cabot. Now there's some FX or foreign currency issues. In constant currency, global MCM and Cabot were all 106% versus the 12/31/2024 ERC curves.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then the the 52,000,000 of of, I'll call it, outperformance on collections. Can you break that out between The US and Cabot in in dollars?

Speaker 2

So that we don't have in our disclosures. What I will tell you is out of the 55.6 total changes and recoveries, about 45,000,000 is MCM. So Okay. And also, in terms of the overall, 95% of that 55.6 is recoveries above forecast. So you can kind of get a sense

Speaker 5

Like, real dollars that came in the door.

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's real dollars and 45,000,000 out of the 55.6 was MCM. All our businesses are performing well. As you can see from that ERC performance versus the December forecast, we are exceeding those forecasts. So hopefully, that gives you a good sense of how both businesses are performing operationally.

Speaker 5

Yeah, no, definitely. Okay. Hey, thank you.

Speaker 3

Of course.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Scharf of Citizens Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hi, this is Zach on for David. Thanks for taking our questions. Wanted to just dig in a little bit on the purchasing environment as kind of mentioned before and see if there's any incremental detail on the competitive dynamics and pricing for both markets.

Speaker 2

Pretty stable. So, in U. S, supply is good. Pricing is stable and returns, especially given our liquidation, are very strong for MCM. So, overall, a stable environment.

Speaker 2

In Europe as well, lending hasn't been growing as we've noted many times, and charge off rates are at pretty record low, including delinquency rates. So, supply is low and not growing much. And competition levels, while they've improved from two to three years ago, are still higher, relatively higher when you compare it to US. So some of that behavior has changed, and we like that, But it's not fully where we would like it to be. But no real change from last quarter.

Speaker 2

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Mark Hughes of Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Yeah, for the follow-up. On the cash provided by operating activities, obviously, there's a lot of ways to look at cash. The cash from operating activities was down a little bit through the six months. I see payables and accrued liabilities were a net negative. Any comments you would make on that?

Speaker 4

Again, it's just looking at the cash flow statement, cash from operating activities.

Speaker 3

Yeah. So one of the key challenges in that cash flow statement from operations, you have basically you're backing out the changes in recoveries, right, so which was a big component of the quarter. So by doing that, you you create a negative impact, which is why you are seeing that slightly odd comparison.

Speaker 4

Okay. Well, thank you.

Speaker 3

Once you see the the full queue and, you know, we can walk you through it in more detail.

Speaker 4

Appreciate that. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Again, as a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press 11 on your telephone. Please stand by. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to NRC for closing remark.

Speaker 2

Okay. Well, thanks for taking the time to join us today, and we look forward to providing our third quarter results in November.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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