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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast International General Insurance EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.51Consensus EPS $0.55Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AInternational General Insurance Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$132.90 millionExpected Revenue$140.40 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$7.50 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AInternational General Insurance Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/5/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, August 6, 2025Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (6-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by International General Insurance Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: IGI delivered net income of $34.1 M in Q2 and $61.4 M in H1 with annualized ROAE of 20.8% and 18.6%, while book value per share rose 3.4% and $77 M was returned to shareholders. Negative Sentiment: Currency movements distorted underwriting, adding approximately 21 points to the Q2 combined ratio and 15 points to H1, weighing on reported results. Positive Sentiment: The reinsurance segment saw flat gross premiums in Q2 and 33% growth in H1, with underwriting income up 60% in Q2 and 55% in H1, reflecting a targeted shift to higher-margin business. Negative Sentiment: The long-tail loan and surety segment remains under pressure, reporting a Q2 underwriting loss of $3 M versus a $15 M profit a year ago, leading to non-renewal of $60 M in professional indemnity business. Positive Sentiment: Investment income rose over 10% to $27.5 M in H1 on a $1.3 B portfolio, with an average annual yield of 4.4% and duration extended to 3.5 years amid higher rates. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallInternational General Insurance Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the International General Insurance Holdings Limited Second Quarter and First Half twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Robin Sidders, Head of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:36Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Thanks, Nick, and good morning, and welcome to today's conference call. Today, we'll be discussing financial results for the second quarter and 2025. You will have seen our press release that we issued after the market closed yesterday. That press release can be found on our website at www.iginsure.com. We've also posted a supplementary investor presentation, can be found also on our website on the Presentations page in the Investors section. Speaker 100:01:11On today's call are Executive Chairman of IGI, Wasif Jabshay President and CEO, Walid Jabshay Chief Financial Officer, Praves Rizvi. As always, Wasif will begin the call with some high level comments before handing over to Walid to talk you through the key drivers of our results for the second quarter and first half and finish up with our views on the market conditions and outlook for the remainder of 2025. At that point, we'll open up the call for questions that any of the dialers may have. I'll begin with a customary Safe Harbor language. Our speakers' remarks may contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:49Some of the forward looking statements can be identified by the use of forward looking words. We caution you that such forward looking statements should not be regarded as a representation by us that the future plans, estimates or expectations contemplated by us will in fact be achieved. Forward looking statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual events and results may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements due to a variety of factors, including the risk factors set forth in the company's annual report on Forms 20 F for the year ended 12/31/2024, the company's reports on Form six ks and other filings with the SEC as well as our results press release that we issued yesterday evening. We undertake no obligation to update or revise publicly any forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date they are made. Speaker 100:02:43During this call, we use certain non GAAP financial measures. For a reconciliation of non GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure, please see our earnings release, which has been filed with the SEC and as I said, is available on our website. With that I'll turn the call over to our Executive Chairman Wasif Jabshay. Wasit? Speaker 200:03:19IGI once again delivered excellent results both for the second quarter and 2025. We generated net income of $34,100,000 and $61,400,000 for the second quarter and third six months, respectively. And this resulted in an annualized return on average equity of 20.8% for the second quarter and eighteen point six percent first half of the year. I'm very pleased with our strong performance, particularly our ability to maintain our focus, exercise discipline and execute consistently. Given the very international nature of our portfolio as well as our presence in many regions, we are often directly exposed to some form of geopolitical and or macroeconomic uncertainty. Speaker 200:04:32Over more than twenty years, we have consistently demonstrated our strength and proficiency in managing through all stages of the cycle, moving our capital to those areas with the strongest rate momentum and the highest margins and reducing in other areas where conditions are such that we are not able to meet our profitable targets. That is the purpose and the benefit of having a very diversified platform and always working within our risk appetite and tolerances. Our value at IGI is in our ability to generate consistently high quality results in any stage of market cycle. So that we continue to reward our shareholders who have put their trust in us and supported us. So far in 2025, in addition to strong earnings, our proactive capital management has resulted in us growing book value per share by 3.4% to $15.36 per share in the first half of the year and returning a total of $77,000,000 to shareholders in dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 200:06:07I will now let Walid discuss the numbers in more detail and talk about market conditions and our outlook for the remainder of the year. I will remain on the call for any questions at the end. Speaker 300:06:24Thank you, Wasif. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today. We had an excellent second quarter and 2025. And as Wasef indicated, we're in a strong position as we continue through the second half of the year. We're still seeing decent conditions and great adequacy across much of our portfolio and pursuing opportunities to enhance our distribution capabilities that will ultimately generate additional value. Speaker 300:06:59Our goal and our promise is to create opportunities that will generate consistent and sustainable value for the long term, and we've demonstrated over more than twenty years history. Our strength is our ability to do this throughout the market cycle. In 2025, while conditions remain generally healthy, there are areas of our portfolio which are facing slightly more competitive pressures. We've mentioned those in previous calls. So we're focusing on those lines and markets that remain healthier and reducing our exposures in areas where we can't generate the acceptable level of risk adjusted return. Speaker 300:07:39At the end of the day, this is what cycle management is all about. But before I go through the numbers in detail, it's important to note upfront the meaningful impact that foreign currency movements face in our results once again this quarter. And that is specifically on the revaluation of our non U. S. Dollar denominated loss reserves and how this flows through a number of line items in our results, more significantly on our underwriting results as you saw for both as you saw that in both the second quarter and the first six months of the year. Speaker 300:08:16As you know our underwriting portfolio as Wazid mentioned is very international in nature. Similarly our investment portfolio is also very geographically diversified. This ensures however that we're always striving to achieve as accurate a match as possible between our assets and our liability, although it's never an exact science. Now roughly half of our underwriting portfolio is transacted in either non U. S. Speaker 300:08:44Dollars or non U. S. Dollar pegged currencies. And this by far is most pronounced in our long tail sector, which as of June 30 represented around 22% of total gross premium. About 80% of this portfolio is transacted in sterling in British pounds, but more importantly, almost half of the group's total reserves are held against the long tail. Speaker 300:09:15And the sheer nature of long tail business means these reserves are held for a longer period of time and for IGI that means about six to eight years on average. So when the U. S. Dollar, our financial reporting currency, when the U. S. Speaker 300:09:29Dollar weakens meaningfully against the pound as it did at the start of the year and even more so during the second quarter, the resulting impact on the revaluation of our reserves undoubtedly led to a somewhat distorted view of the underwriting results, specifically our loss ratio and obviously therefore ultimately our combined ratio and also our core operating results. So as I go through the results, I'll try and provide the dollar or percentage value impact where meaningfully distort period over period comparisons in our results. Now specifically on the numbers and starting with the top line, gross premiums in the 2025 were just under $190,000,000 reflecting a decrease of 8.7%. And this is reflected in both the short tail and the long tail segments where competitive pressures are more prevalent. For the first six months, growth periods were up almost 2% to around $395,000,000 primarily driven by growth in the reinsurance segment where we continue to take advantage of the more positive market conditions, which I'll talk about more in a moment. Speaker 300:10:44Net earned premium was million for the 2025 versus around EUR122 million for the same period last year. For the first six months, net premiums earned were EUR227.8 million versus approximately SEK236 million. For both the second quarter and first six months of this year, net premiums earned included the impact of reinstatement premiums, which we mentioned on the last quarter's call, a loss effective business amounting to CHF2.6 million this quarter against CHF9.9 million for the first half. Again, I would note that we are strategic buyers of reinsurance to help mitigate volatility in the high severity lines business that we participate in. The combined ratio for the second quarter was 90.5%. Speaker 300:11:40Combined ratio for the first half was 92.4%. Now these were negatively impacted by the revaluation of those non U. S. Dollar loss reserves. The impact amounted to approximately 21 points in Q2 and 15 points in the first half. Speaker 300:12:02You're hearing these numbers and this really underscores the strength of our fundamental performance in what is becoming a more competitive environment. The first six months also saw a higher volume of losses when compared to the same period in 2024, especially in Q1 as well as a lower volume of net earned premium from the reinstatement premium impact in which in the couple of minutes. All in, we delivered net income of $34,100,000 or $0.77 per share for the second quarter versus $32,800,000 or $0.73 per share for the second quarter of last year. It's important to note here that when you look at the second quarter specifically, even though our combined ratio was almost 10 points high and our net earned premium base was almost 6.6 lower, we still produced a net income that was higher by 4% over the 2024, clearly illustrating the strength of our underlying performance. For the first half of this year, we generated net income of $61,400,000 or 1.36 per share versus $70,700,000 or $1.55 per share for the first half of last year. Speaker 300:13:25The period over period decline in net income in the first half was the result of a lower level of underwriting income, again due to currency revaluation movements in large part, but also a greater level of loss activity and a higher level of military and sale and paid in Switzerland. Core operating income was $22,800,000 or $0.51 per share in Q2 compared to $33,200,000 or $0.74 per share in Q2 last year. For the first six months of 2025, core operating income was 42,200,000.0 or $0.93 per share versus $73,300,000 or 1.61 per share with the difference again primarily attributable to a lower level of underwriting income impacted by the currency revaluation. And there was a heightened loss activity, specifically 15.9 points of the current tax and year cap losses that we mainly saw in the first quarter. Prior year development was unfavorable in Q2 amounting to €6,300,000 primarily driven by the impact of about just under $20,000,000 currency revaluation, out of which and the majority as we mentioned earlier is in the log scale segment came up to about almost $14,000,000 as our business as we said is largely transacted in pound sterling. Speaker 300:14:57For the first six months prior year development was favorable by just under $20,000,000 versus $41,500,000 for the first half of last year with the lower volume primarily attributable to currency revaluation which in the first half amounted to about CHF 32,000,000. So on a constant FX basis or on an apples to apples basis, we would have seen favorable development of just under $13,000,000 for the second quarter and about $52,000,000 for the first six months of this year. And I'll talk more about the long tail segment. The G and A expense ratio was 21% in Q2 versus 2120.1% for the first half. Now a few comments on our segment results. Speaker 300:15:51In our short tail segment, gross premiums were down 8.54.2% for the second quarter and first half respectively. Consequently, earnings per unit were also down 8.46.9% for Q2 and 2025 compared to the same period in 2024. The decline in both periods reflects the lower level of written premiums as well as the impact of real estate premiums on our reinsurance purchases. The result underwriting income was up almost 21% to million in the second quarter largely due to a lower level of losses recorded in Q2 versus the same period previous year. For the first six months underwriting income was just over CHF 50,000,000, down about 10 points when compared to the 2024. Speaker 300:16:47We continue to see new business opportunities in a number of lines, particularly engineering and construction, in marine lines and to a lesser degree contingency and property lines. Although broadly speaking, the rating environment and pricing remains adequate. But engineering continues to stand out as an excellent growth opportunity, seeing a lot of infrastructure projects and opportunities coming to many of our markets across the globe. Gross premiums in the reinsurance segment, the treaty segment, which is as we always say is very well diversified geographically were flat compared to the second quarter of last year, while the 2025 showed growth of about 33% versus the same period in 2024, primarily driven by strong renewal and new business generated in Q1 and more around January 1. Growth was mainly in marine, energy, PV, Terror and to a lesser extent the property lines. Speaker 300:17:58Now conditions generally remain strong and pricing adequate in this business in this line, in this segment, but there is definitely increasing evidence of competitive pressures. Apparent premium was up just over 21% in Q2 and about onethree in the 2025 compared to the same periods the previous year. Underwriting income was up almost 60% in the second quarter and about 55% in the first half of this year compared to the same period last year. The significant increase in that underwriting income in the segment clearly illustrates the shift of focus, which shift in focus, which we always talk about, that we made a year ago to higher margin reinsurance business. And we're now seeing this flow through the financial results. Speaker 300:18:58The loan sales segment continues to be the area of our portfolio that is definitely most challenging. This has been the case now for many quarters. We've said it time and time again and expect will continue to be the case for at least the near term. I mean this is the segment where our cycle management capabilities are clearly limited. As we purposely contracted the book by around 15% since 2021 after several years of healthy top line growth when market conditions were very much in our favor. Speaker 300:19:31And we've been talking pretty rapidly, but we've been taking a very cautious approach to rates that have consistently now declining for many, many quarters, albeit from very high levels. But the pace of decline is now showing signs of slowdown. In the second quarter and 2025, gross premiums were down almost 12% and almost 5%, respectively, segment. We recorded an underwriting loss of about $3,000,000 for Q2 versus an underwriting profit of about $15,000,000 in Q2 last year. And for the first half, we recorded an underwriting loss of about $10,000,000 versus an underwriting profit of about $26,000,000 last year. Speaker 300:20:19Now I'll take a moment to add some context here. Again first is FX. The currency value the revaluation of non U. S. Dollar reserves which I said earlier impact this segment the long tail segment the most by far and as the vast majority of our business is transacted in pounds. Speaker 300:20:39So on a currency neutral basis underwriting income would have been just under CHF12 million in the second quarter and just over CHF13 million in the first half. Now that's the first factor here. Second, as we've been saying we've been contracting this portfolio purposefully as competitive pressures in these lines have led to reductions in rates and lower margins. And so we're generating less written and earned premium. And finally, we saw a higher level of losses in this segment, especially in the first quarter and specifically within our professional lending platform. Speaker 300:21:16And this has led to higher level of ring stable. We've indicated on our last two calls that we were reviewing one area of our professional indemnity portfolio, which has not been performing up to par. And we have now made that decision to not renew this. As I've said, nothing systemic, just generally poor performance where the results simply aren't meeting our targets and with the outlook unlikely to improve enough for us in the near term to change our view. It's just it just isn't due to the continued profitability to renew this part of the portfolio. Speaker 300:22:04Now the effect of this will be a decline in gross premium of about $60,000,000 in total. About 10% of that will be reflected in Q3, 50% in Q4, and the remainder will be spread over the first half of next year. Now while the impact overall feels very pronounced on top line, the way that we actually restructured this business over the past few years means that the actual impact on net written premium is only around 6,000,000,000 or $7,000,000,000 Ultimately taking this action now should and we expect that it will improve the overall profitability profile of sales the segment going forward, which ultimately is the whole point. Now turning to the balance sheet, total assets increased by just over 4% to about $2,100,000,000 Total investments and cash were $1,300,000,000 Our allocation of fixed income securities, which makes approximately 80% of our investments in cash portfolio generated just under $14,000,000 in investment income in the second quarter, which is an increase over the Q2 of last year of about just over 5%. Now for the first six months of the year, income increased more than 10% to about $27,500,000 with an average annualized yield of 4.4%. Speaker 300:23:41And we also edged out the duration slightly to three point five years during the quarter developing higher rates on new bonds. In the second quarter, we repurchased just over 1,340,000.00 common shares at an average price per share of $23.28 As of the end of Q2, this leaves approximately 800,000 shares remaining on our existing €7,500,000 repurchase authorization. Total equity was €602,200,000 at the end of Q2, and that includes the impact of share repurchases and the payment of $42,000,000 in common share dividends including the special dividend of $0.85 that we paid back in April. This compares to total equity of $654,800,000 at the end of last year. Ultimately, we recorded a return on average shareholders' equity of 20.8% for the second quarter and 18.6% for the first six months of this year. Speaker 300:24:48So from a total return perspective, we grew book value per share by 3.4 in the first six months and we returned a total of $77,000,000 to shareholders in share repurchases and dividends in the first half of the year. So I mean all the noise from currency movement aside, it was an excellent quarter and an excellent first half of twenty twenty five. Now specifically on what we're seeing in our markets that elevated competitive pressure is there and in some areas it's increasing more than others. In spite of the headwinds facing our sector, we continue to seek and find profitable opportunities to write new business across many lines within our portfolio. And I expect that overall we will continue to see some contraction in the top line in certain areas of our portfolio where profitability and coverages just don't meet our required targets. Speaker 300:25:51This is very much the benefit of having a multifaceted diversification strategy, specialist expertise and people on the ground in our regional market. It just gives us more optionality and more levers to work with. So when market conditions in one line or in one region are particularly competitive, there will be other lines and other regions where the market remains robust. The individual elements of our portfolio don't move in unison, as we all know. I said on last quarter's call that domestic markets across the world are becoming stronger and more resilient, and there's much higher desire, growing desire to retain business within those local markets. Speaker 300:26:33So being situated in these regions and having global talent means that we can still access domestic business that is no longer coming to London, for example. We're seeing mix conditions across much of our portfolio consistent with what we've said on previous quarters' calls. Some years remain quite relatively quite healthy, while other areas are seeing a little more competition and as such rating pressure. Generally speaking, reinsurance lines remain healthy as do some of the short term lines. We're clearly, at a stage of the broader cycle where portfolio and exposure management is absolutely critical. Speaker 300:27:20And I'll make one thing very, very clear. At IGI, we will not sacrifice the bottom line to benefit the top line. Our primary goal and our promise is to generate sustainable value for the long term. And we won't succeed at that if we give in to some of the more pervasive pressures that are driving rates and ultimately profitability downwards. Now in our long tail segment, net rates overall do remain adequate in most areas and the pace of rating decline as I said a few moments ago has slowed down moderately. Speaker 300:27:57So we're seeking new opportunities and we're taking action to expand our footprint specific markets, keeping in mind that we have no appetite to write any U. S. Liability business. In both Ugmo and Malta, where penetration is a slower process, We've expanded our capabilities over a year ago, these efforts are starting now to bear fruit. Our outlook on short term land continues to be fairly consistent with what we've been saying in prior quarters, although the market is definitely becoming tougher as you go in our local office early season. Speaker 300:28:33We're seeing greatest pressure in property and especially energy lines, particularly down sleep energy. Where we're seeing the most opportunities in the more specialist lines like construction engineering, as I mentioned earlier, the marine lines. And in those marine lines, certain business bunch of that business is renewing at least on a flat or as before basis, if not slightly higher rates. The loss events unfortunately of the first few months of 2025 don't appear to have had much impact on market conditions in any specific lines. And again, unfortunately, we continue to see more intense competition from both the large multinational carriers than from the MGAs. Speaker 300:29:23I mean, you've heard comments from other carriers this early season on the impact of MGAs. On the whole, we are supporters of and users of facilitated business where we can't access the business ourselves. And we've built a strong dedicated authority team internally to vet and manage that business. But there are certainly elements of that facilitated business that are less disciplined, not just on pricing, but also on terms, conditions and most importantly on coverages. Now in the reinsurance segment, we're still seeing a decent flow of opportunities that fall within our risk tolerances and I expect that that will continue for the remainder of the year. Speaker 300:30:08Now that said, the major one point one and four point one renewals are behind us. So significant growth in the segment in the second half of the year will be a lot more muted. Like all areas of our business, we're pursuing opportunities to enhance our distribution capabilities in this segment and that should help us continue to expand our portfolio. I mean overall the markets, the reinsurance markets seem to still be behaving in a relatively disciplined manner from a structure terms or earnings perspective. So pricing pressure is at so when conditions holding steady, there is still perceived margin in the business, some carriers are willing to give up more on price. Speaker 300:30:57We are again continuing to see the large carriers pushing hard to maintain and build that market share we mentioned earlier, and that's obviously adding to the rating pressure. In our geographic markets, we've always been underweight in The U. S, and we expect that it will continue to be one of the markets with the greatest opportunity for us to write new business. But like always, we're mindful of our risk appetite and our tolerances, particularly in the high cat exposed regions and zones. So there's room for us to grow here, both in our specialty 3P book and in our short sale lines. Speaker 300:31:33Now Europe also remains a growth area for us. Storage similar in MENA, Asia Pac regions and our expanded presence and capabilities on the ground in those regions are paying benefits. Now before we open the call up for questions, just some final thoughts from my end. I mean like I said at the start of the call, we're absolutely fully prepared for any headwinds. They're all part and parcel of our business, our industry, I mean our strategy, our expertise and footprint, they're all specifically geared towards managing the cyclicality and the volatility of our business where lines and markets behave largely independent of each other. Speaker 300:32:20We've got a fully unlevered balance sheet. Our underwriting portfolio is diversified at many levels. And with our physical presence in key regions worldwide, we stay very close to our market. We have the right infrastructure with the right experience and capabilities in our team to successfully execute on our strategy and navigate any and all stages of the silence. This is the foundation that we are built upon and what gives us the resilience to succeed through market cycles as clearly evidenced in our track record. Speaker 300:32:56So we're looking ahead with a healthy dose of optimism that we will continue our track record of generating superior value for the long term. So I will pause here, and we will turn it over for questions. Operator, we're ready to take the first question. Operator00:33:16Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question today will come from Nick Yacoviello with Dowling and Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:34:11Hi. Great quarter considering the FX impact. I was curious on the net to gross retention on a written premium basis was 64% in the quarter. It was down from 73% year over year. Can you speak a bit to that? Speaker 400:34:26I was wondering if that was mix driven in any way or was there just additional opportunistic outwards buying in the quarter? Speaker 300:34:36Nathan. Thanks for the question. No, it really is more of the more opportunistic. We've been buying a higher level of facultative reinsurance in the softer market, again, more opportunistic, trying to generate a little bit higher element of more fee income or overriding income as well. We've expanded also our capabilities in certain lines of business on the back of reinsurer support from the likes of the larger European reinsurers that have sought a piece of the pie from our portfolio. Speaker 300:35:25So some of it is strategic, but a big element of it is opportunistic. Speaker 400:35:37And then I was just curious, one area of the professional indemnity portfolio that sounds like will be non renewed. Based on the net to gross figure you gave, it sounds like there's around 85% quota share on the book. Has it always been at that level? Or has that speed increased in recent years? Or can you just help me think about maybe what the session was a couple of years ago versus now would be helpful? Speaker 400:36:02I Speaker 300:36:04mean, over the last few years, it's hovered between sort of the 60% to 85% session. It wasn't always like that. In the initial years, it was a much smaller book that, what do you call, we retained fully for the first couple of years and then we started as we developed the book and grew it, we did it on the back of reinsurance support. Now that last year was around 80%, 82.5% and hence the net impact, the gross number looks like it's a big one, a high one. But once it trickles down through your net numbers and down to your bottom line, at the end of the day, it's not material. Speaker 300:36:55And ultimately, what we're doing by non reviewing not by non reviewing a book of this size, which I think takes speaks volumes as to the discipline and our razor sharp focus on the bottom line. With the nonrenewal of this size portfolio, the intent here is to improve overall profitability, and that's what we'd expect with our dividend growth. Speaker 400:37:30Makes sense. That's all I have. Operator00:37:35Thank you. Speaker 300:37:36Thank you, Nick. Operator00:37:37Seeing no further questions, this will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Speaker 300:37:48Thank you, Nick. And just thank you all for joining us today, and thank you for your continued support of IGI. As always, any additional questions, please get in touch with Robin, and she'll be happy to assist. And we all look forward to speaking with you on the Q3 call. Have a good day, everyone. Speaker 300:38:11Thank you very much. Thank you. Operator00:38:14The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(6-K) International General Insurance Earnings HeadlinesInternational General Insurance Holdings Ltd. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the International General Insurance Holdings Limited Second Quarter and First Half twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Robin Sidders, Head of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:36Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Thanks, Nick, and good morning, and welcome to today's conference call. Today, we'll be discussing financial results for the second quarter and 2025. You will have seen our press release that we issued after the market closed yesterday. That press release can be found on our website at www.iginsure.com. We've also posted a supplementary investor presentation, can be found also on our website on the Presentations page in the Investors section. Speaker 100:01:11On today's call are Executive Chairman of IGI, Wasif Jabshay President and CEO, Walid Jabshay Chief Financial Officer, Praves Rizvi. As always, Wasif will begin the call with some high level comments before handing over to Walid to talk you through the key drivers of our results for the second quarter and first half and finish up with our views on the market conditions and outlook for the remainder of 2025. At that point, we'll open up the call for questions that any of the dialers may have. I'll begin with a customary Safe Harbor language. Our speakers' remarks may contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:49Some of the forward looking statements can be identified by the use of forward looking words. We caution you that such forward looking statements should not be regarded as a representation by us that the future plans, estimates or expectations contemplated by us will in fact be achieved. Forward looking statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual events and results may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements due to a variety of factors, including the risk factors set forth in the company's annual report on Forms 20 F for the year ended 12/31/2024, the company's reports on Form six ks and other filings with the SEC as well as our results press release that we issued yesterday evening. We undertake no obligation to update or revise publicly any forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date they are made. Speaker 100:02:43During this call, we use certain non GAAP financial measures. For a reconciliation of non GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure, please see our earnings release, which has been filed with the SEC and as I said, is available on our website. With that I'll turn the call over to our Executive Chairman Wasif Jabshay. Wasit? Speaker 200:03:19IGI once again delivered excellent results both for the second quarter and 2025. We generated net income of $34,100,000 and $61,400,000 for the second quarter and third six months, respectively. And this resulted in an annualized return on average equity of 20.8% for the second quarter and eighteen point six percent first half of the year. I'm very pleased with our strong performance, particularly our ability to maintain our focus, exercise discipline and execute consistently. Given the very international nature of our portfolio as well as our presence in many regions, we are often directly exposed to some form of geopolitical and or macroeconomic uncertainty. Speaker 200:04:32Over more than twenty years, we have consistently demonstrated our strength and proficiency in managing through all stages of the cycle, moving our capital to those areas with the strongest rate momentum and the highest margins and reducing in other areas where conditions are such that we are not able to meet our profitable targets. That is the purpose and the benefit of having a very diversified platform and always working within our risk appetite and tolerances. Our value at IGI is in our ability to generate consistently high quality results in any stage of market cycle. So that we continue to reward our shareholders who have put their trust in us and supported us. So far in 2025, in addition to strong earnings, our proactive capital management has resulted in us growing book value per share by 3.4% to $15.36 per share in the first half of the year and returning a total of $77,000,000 to shareholders in dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 200:06:07I will now let Walid discuss the numbers in more detail and talk about market conditions and our outlook for the remainder of the year. I will remain on the call for any questions at the end. Speaker 300:06:24Thank you, Wasif. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today. We had an excellent second quarter and 2025. And as Wasef indicated, we're in a strong position as we continue through the second half of the year. We're still seeing decent conditions and great adequacy across much of our portfolio and pursuing opportunities to enhance our distribution capabilities that will ultimately generate additional value. Speaker 300:06:59Our goal and our promise is to create opportunities that will generate consistent and sustainable value for the long term, and we've demonstrated over more than twenty years history. Our strength is our ability to do this throughout the market cycle. In 2025, while conditions remain generally healthy, there are areas of our portfolio which are facing slightly more competitive pressures. We've mentioned those in previous calls. So we're focusing on those lines and markets that remain healthier and reducing our exposures in areas where we can't generate the acceptable level of risk adjusted return. Speaker 300:07:39At the end of the day, this is what cycle management is all about. But before I go through the numbers in detail, it's important to note upfront the meaningful impact that foreign currency movements face in our results once again this quarter. And that is specifically on the revaluation of our non U. S. Dollar denominated loss reserves and how this flows through a number of line items in our results, more significantly on our underwriting results as you saw for both as you saw that in both the second quarter and the first six months of the year. Speaker 300:08:16As you know our underwriting portfolio as Wazid mentioned is very international in nature. Similarly our investment portfolio is also very geographically diversified. This ensures however that we're always striving to achieve as accurate a match as possible between our assets and our liability, although it's never an exact science. Now roughly half of our underwriting portfolio is transacted in either non U. S. Speaker 300:08:44Dollars or non U. S. Dollar pegged currencies. And this by far is most pronounced in our long tail sector, which as of June 30 represented around 22% of total gross premium. About 80% of this portfolio is transacted in sterling in British pounds, but more importantly, almost half of the group's total reserves are held against the long tail. Speaker 300:09:15And the sheer nature of long tail business means these reserves are held for a longer period of time and for IGI that means about six to eight years on average. So when the U. S. Dollar, our financial reporting currency, when the U. S. Speaker 300:09:29Dollar weakens meaningfully against the pound as it did at the start of the year and even more so during the second quarter, the resulting impact on the revaluation of our reserves undoubtedly led to a somewhat distorted view of the underwriting results, specifically our loss ratio and obviously therefore ultimately our combined ratio and also our core operating results. So as I go through the results, I'll try and provide the dollar or percentage value impact where meaningfully distort period over period comparisons in our results. Now specifically on the numbers and starting with the top line, gross premiums in the 2025 were just under $190,000,000 reflecting a decrease of 8.7%. And this is reflected in both the short tail and the long tail segments where competitive pressures are more prevalent. For the first six months, growth periods were up almost 2% to around $395,000,000 primarily driven by growth in the reinsurance segment where we continue to take advantage of the more positive market conditions, which I'll talk about more in a moment. Speaker 300:10:44Net earned premium was million for the 2025 versus around EUR122 million for the same period last year. For the first six months, net premiums earned were EUR227.8 million versus approximately SEK236 million. For both the second quarter and first six months of this year, net premiums earned included the impact of reinstatement premiums, which we mentioned on the last quarter's call, a loss effective business amounting to CHF2.6 million this quarter against CHF9.9 million for the first half. Again, I would note that we are strategic buyers of reinsurance to help mitigate volatility in the high severity lines business that we participate in. The combined ratio for the second quarter was 90.5%. Speaker 300:11:40Combined ratio for the first half was 92.4%. Now these were negatively impacted by the revaluation of those non U. S. Dollar loss reserves. The impact amounted to approximately 21 points in Q2 and 15 points in the first half. Speaker 300:12:02You're hearing these numbers and this really underscores the strength of our fundamental performance in what is becoming a more competitive environment. The first six months also saw a higher volume of losses when compared to the same period in 2024, especially in Q1 as well as a lower volume of net earned premium from the reinstatement premium impact in which in the couple of minutes. All in, we delivered net income of $34,100,000 or $0.77 per share for the second quarter versus $32,800,000 or $0.73 per share for the second quarter of last year. It's important to note here that when you look at the second quarter specifically, even though our combined ratio was almost 10 points high and our net earned premium base was almost 6.6 lower, we still produced a net income that was higher by 4% over the 2024, clearly illustrating the strength of our underlying performance. For the first half of this year, we generated net income of $61,400,000 or 1.36 per share versus $70,700,000 or $1.55 per share for the first half of last year. Speaker 300:13:25The period over period decline in net income in the first half was the result of a lower level of underwriting income, again due to currency revaluation movements in large part, but also a greater level of loss activity and a higher level of military and sale and paid in Switzerland. Core operating income was $22,800,000 or $0.51 per share in Q2 compared to $33,200,000 or $0.74 per share in Q2 last year. For the first six months of 2025, core operating income was 42,200,000.0 or $0.93 per share versus $73,300,000 or 1.61 per share with the difference again primarily attributable to a lower level of underwriting income impacted by the currency revaluation. And there was a heightened loss activity, specifically 15.9 points of the current tax and year cap losses that we mainly saw in the first quarter. Prior year development was unfavorable in Q2 amounting to €6,300,000 primarily driven by the impact of about just under $20,000,000 currency revaluation, out of which and the majority as we mentioned earlier is in the log scale segment came up to about almost $14,000,000 as our business as we said is largely transacted in pound sterling. Speaker 300:14:57For the first six months prior year development was favorable by just under $20,000,000 versus $41,500,000 for the first half of last year with the lower volume primarily attributable to currency revaluation which in the first half amounted to about CHF 32,000,000. So on a constant FX basis or on an apples to apples basis, we would have seen favorable development of just under $13,000,000 for the second quarter and about $52,000,000 for the first six months of this year. And I'll talk more about the long tail segment. The G and A expense ratio was 21% in Q2 versus 2120.1% for the first half. Now a few comments on our segment results. Speaker 300:15:51In our short tail segment, gross premiums were down 8.54.2% for the second quarter and first half respectively. Consequently, earnings per unit were also down 8.46.9% for Q2 and 2025 compared to the same period in 2024. The decline in both periods reflects the lower level of written premiums as well as the impact of real estate premiums on our reinsurance purchases. The result underwriting income was up almost 21% to million in the second quarter largely due to a lower level of losses recorded in Q2 versus the same period previous year. For the first six months underwriting income was just over CHF 50,000,000, down about 10 points when compared to the 2024. Speaker 300:16:47We continue to see new business opportunities in a number of lines, particularly engineering and construction, in marine lines and to a lesser degree contingency and property lines. Although broadly speaking, the rating environment and pricing remains adequate. But engineering continues to stand out as an excellent growth opportunity, seeing a lot of infrastructure projects and opportunities coming to many of our markets across the globe. Gross premiums in the reinsurance segment, the treaty segment, which is as we always say is very well diversified geographically were flat compared to the second quarter of last year, while the 2025 showed growth of about 33% versus the same period in 2024, primarily driven by strong renewal and new business generated in Q1 and more around January 1. Growth was mainly in marine, energy, PV, Terror and to a lesser extent the property lines. Speaker 300:17:58Now conditions generally remain strong and pricing adequate in this business in this line, in this segment, but there is definitely increasing evidence of competitive pressures. Apparent premium was up just over 21% in Q2 and about onethree in the 2025 compared to the same periods the previous year. Underwriting income was up almost 60% in the second quarter and about 55% in the first half of this year compared to the same period last year. The significant increase in that underwriting income in the segment clearly illustrates the shift of focus, which shift in focus, which we always talk about, that we made a year ago to higher margin reinsurance business. And we're now seeing this flow through the financial results. Speaker 300:18:58The loan sales segment continues to be the area of our portfolio that is definitely most challenging. This has been the case now for many quarters. We've said it time and time again and expect will continue to be the case for at least the near term. I mean this is the segment where our cycle management capabilities are clearly limited. As we purposely contracted the book by around 15% since 2021 after several years of healthy top line growth when market conditions were very much in our favor. Speaker 300:19:31And we've been talking pretty rapidly, but we've been taking a very cautious approach to rates that have consistently now declining for many, many quarters, albeit from very high levels. But the pace of decline is now showing signs of slowdown. In the second quarter and 2025, gross premiums were down almost 12% and almost 5%, respectively, segment. We recorded an underwriting loss of about $3,000,000 for Q2 versus an underwriting profit of about $15,000,000 in Q2 last year. And for the first half, we recorded an underwriting loss of about $10,000,000 versus an underwriting profit of about $26,000,000 last year. Speaker 300:20:19Now I'll take a moment to add some context here. Again first is FX. The currency value the revaluation of non U. S. Dollar reserves which I said earlier impact this segment the long tail segment the most by far and as the vast majority of our business is transacted in pounds. Speaker 300:20:39So on a currency neutral basis underwriting income would have been just under CHF12 million in the second quarter and just over CHF13 million in the first half. Now that's the first factor here. Second, as we've been saying we've been contracting this portfolio purposefully as competitive pressures in these lines have led to reductions in rates and lower margins. And so we're generating less written and earned premium. And finally, we saw a higher level of losses in this segment, especially in the first quarter and specifically within our professional lending platform. Speaker 300:21:16And this has led to higher level of ring stable. We've indicated on our last two calls that we were reviewing one area of our professional indemnity portfolio, which has not been performing up to par. And we have now made that decision to not renew this. As I've said, nothing systemic, just generally poor performance where the results simply aren't meeting our targets and with the outlook unlikely to improve enough for us in the near term to change our view. It's just it just isn't due to the continued profitability to renew this part of the portfolio. Speaker 300:22:04Now the effect of this will be a decline in gross premium of about $60,000,000 in total. About 10% of that will be reflected in Q3, 50% in Q4, and the remainder will be spread over the first half of next year. Now while the impact overall feels very pronounced on top line, the way that we actually restructured this business over the past few years means that the actual impact on net written premium is only around 6,000,000,000 or $7,000,000,000 Ultimately taking this action now should and we expect that it will improve the overall profitability profile of sales the segment going forward, which ultimately is the whole point. Now turning to the balance sheet, total assets increased by just over 4% to about $2,100,000,000 Total investments and cash were $1,300,000,000 Our allocation of fixed income securities, which makes approximately 80% of our investments in cash portfolio generated just under $14,000,000 in investment income in the second quarter, which is an increase over the Q2 of last year of about just over 5%. Now for the first six months of the year, income increased more than 10% to about $27,500,000 with an average annualized yield of 4.4%. Speaker 300:23:41And we also edged out the duration slightly to three point five years during the quarter developing higher rates on new bonds. In the second quarter, we repurchased just over 1,340,000.00 common shares at an average price per share of $23.28 As of the end of Q2, this leaves approximately 800,000 shares remaining on our existing €7,500,000 repurchase authorization. Total equity was €602,200,000 at the end of Q2, and that includes the impact of share repurchases and the payment of $42,000,000 in common share dividends including the special dividend of $0.85 that we paid back in April. This compares to total equity of $654,800,000 at the end of last year. Ultimately, we recorded a return on average shareholders' equity of 20.8% for the second quarter and 18.6% for the first six months of this year. Speaker 300:24:48So from a total return perspective, we grew book value per share by 3.4 in the first six months and we returned a total of $77,000,000 to shareholders in share repurchases and dividends in the first half of the year. So I mean all the noise from currency movement aside, it was an excellent quarter and an excellent first half of twenty twenty five. Now specifically on what we're seeing in our markets that elevated competitive pressure is there and in some areas it's increasing more than others. In spite of the headwinds facing our sector, we continue to seek and find profitable opportunities to write new business across many lines within our portfolio. And I expect that overall we will continue to see some contraction in the top line in certain areas of our portfolio where profitability and coverages just don't meet our required targets. Speaker 300:25:51This is very much the benefit of having a multifaceted diversification strategy, specialist expertise and people on the ground in our regional market. It just gives us more optionality and more levers to work with. So when market conditions in one line or in one region are particularly competitive, there will be other lines and other regions where the market remains robust. The individual elements of our portfolio don't move in unison, as we all know. I said on last quarter's call that domestic markets across the world are becoming stronger and more resilient, and there's much higher desire, growing desire to retain business within those local markets. Speaker 300:26:33So being situated in these regions and having global talent means that we can still access domestic business that is no longer coming to London, for example. We're seeing mix conditions across much of our portfolio consistent with what we've said on previous quarters' calls. Some years remain quite relatively quite healthy, while other areas are seeing a little more competition and as such rating pressure. Generally speaking, reinsurance lines remain healthy as do some of the short term lines. We're clearly, at a stage of the broader cycle where portfolio and exposure management is absolutely critical. Speaker 300:27:20And I'll make one thing very, very clear. At IGI, we will not sacrifice the bottom line to benefit the top line. Our primary goal and our promise is to generate sustainable value for the long term. And we won't succeed at that if we give in to some of the more pervasive pressures that are driving rates and ultimately profitability downwards. Now in our long tail segment, net rates overall do remain adequate in most areas and the pace of rating decline as I said a few moments ago has slowed down moderately. Speaker 300:27:57So we're seeking new opportunities and we're taking action to expand our footprint specific markets, keeping in mind that we have no appetite to write any U. S. Liability business. In both Ugmo and Malta, where penetration is a slower process, We've expanded our capabilities over a year ago, these efforts are starting now to bear fruit. Our outlook on short term land continues to be fairly consistent with what we've been saying in prior quarters, although the market is definitely becoming tougher as you go in our local office early season. Speaker 300:28:33We're seeing greatest pressure in property and especially energy lines, particularly down sleep energy. Where we're seeing the most opportunities in the more specialist lines like construction engineering, as I mentioned earlier, the marine lines. And in those marine lines, certain business bunch of that business is renewing at least on a flat or as before basis, if not slightly higher rates. The loss events unfortunately of the first few months of 2025 don't appear to have had much impact on market conditions in any specific lines. And again, unfortunately, we continue to see more intense competition from both the large multinational carriers than from the MGAs. Speaker 300:29:23I mean, you've heard comments from other carriers this early season on the impact of MGAs. On the whole, we are supporters of and users of facilitated business where we can't access the business ourselves. And we've built a strong dedicated authority team internally to vet and manage that business. But there are certainly elements of that facilitated business that are less disciplined, not just on pricing, but also on terms, conditions and most importantly on coverages. Now in the reinsurance segment, we're still seeing a decent flow of opportunities that fall within our risk tolerances and I expect that that will continue for the remainder of the year. Speaker 300:30:08Now that said, the major one point one and four point one renewals are behind us. So significant growth in the segment in the second half of the year will be a lot more muted. Like all areas of our business, we're pursuing opportunities to enhance our distribution capabilities in this segment and that should help us continue to expand our portfolio. I mean overall the markets, the reinsurance markets seem to still be behaving in a relatively disciplined manner from a structure terms or earnings perspective. So pricing pressure is at so when conditions holding steady, there is still perceived margin in the business, some carriers are willing to give up more on price. Speaker 300:30:57We are again continuing to see the large carriers pushing hard to maintain and build that market share we mentioned earlier, and that's obviously adding to the rating pressure. In our geographic markets, we've always been underweight in The U. S, and we expect that it will continue to be one of the markets with the greatest opportunity for us to write new business. But like always, we're mindful of our risk appetite and our tolerances, particularly in the high cat exposed regions and zones. So there's room for us to grow here, both in our specialty 3P book and in our short sale lines. Speaker 300:31:33Now Europe also remains a growth area for us. Storage similar in MENA, Asia Pac regions and our expanded presence and capabilities on the ground in those regions are paying benefits. Now before we open the call up for questions, just some final thoughts from my end. I mean like I said at the start of the call, we're absolutely fully prepared for any headwinds. They're all part and parcel of our business, our industry, I mean our strategy, our expertise and footprint, they're all specifically geared towards managing the cyclicality and the volatility of our business where lines and markets behave largely independent of each other. Speaker 300:32:20We've got a fully unlevered balance sheet. Our underwriting portfolio is diversified at many levels. And with our physical presence in key regions worldwide, we stay very close to our market. We have the right infrastructure with the right experience and capabilities in our team to successfully execute on our strategy and navigate any and all stages of the silence. This is the foundation that we are built upon and what gives us the resilience to succeed through market cycles as clearly evidenced in our track record. Speaker 300:32:56So we're looking ahead with a healthy dose of optimism that we will continue our track record of generating superior value for the long term. So I will pause here, and we will turn it over for questions. Operator, we're ready to take the first question. Operator00:33:16Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question today will come from Nick Yacoviello with Dowling and Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:34:11Hi. Great quarter considering the FX impact. I was curious on the net to gross retention on a written premium basis was 64% in the quarter. It was down from 73% year over year. Can you speak a bit to that? Speaker 400:34:26I was wondering if that was mix driven in any way or was there just additional opportunistic outwards buying in the quarter? Speaker 300:34:36Nathan. Thanks for the question. No, it really is more of the more opportunistic. We've been buying a higher level of facultative reinsurance in the softer market, again, more opportunistic, trying to generate a little bit higher element of more fee income or overriding income as well. We've expanded also our capabilities in certain lines of business on the back of reinsurer support from the likes of the larger European reinsurers that have sought a piece of the pie from our portfolio. Speaker 300:35:25So some of it is strategic, but a big element of it is opportunistic. Speaker 400:35:37And then I was just curious, one area of the professional indemnity portfolio that sounds like will be non renewed. Based on the net to gross figure you gave, it sounds like there's around 85% quota share on the book. Has it always been at that level? Or has that speed increased in recent years? Or can you just help me think about maybe what the session was a couple of years ago versus now would be helpful? Speaker 400:36:02I Speaker 300:36:04mean, over the last few years, it's hovered between sort of the 60% to 85% session. It wasn't always like that. In the initial years, it was a much smaller book that, what do you call, we retained fully for the first couple of years and then we started as we developed the book and grew it, we did it on the back of reinsurance support. Now that last year was around 80%, 82.5% and hence the net impact, the gross number looks like it's a big one, a high one. But once it trickles down through your net numbers and down to your bottom line, at the end of the day, it's not material. Speaker 300:36:55And ultimately, what we're doing by non reviewing not by non reviewing a book of this size, which I think takes speaks volumes as to the discipline and our razor sharp focus on the bottom line. With the nonrenewal of this size portfolio, the intent here is to improve overall profitability, and that's what we'd expect with our dividend growth. Speaker 400:37:30Makes sense. That's all I have. Operator00:37:35Thank you. Speaker 300:37:36Thank you, Nick. Operator00:37:37Seeing no further questions, this will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Speaker 300:37:48Thank you, Nick. And just thank you all for joining us today, and thank you for your continued support of IGI. As always, any additional questions, please get in touch with Robin, and she'll be happy to assist. And we all look forward to speaking with you on the Q3 call. Have a good day, everyone. Speaker 300:38:11Thank you very much. Thank you. Operator00:38:14The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by