CF Industries Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: CF Industries delivered adjusted EBITDA of $1.4 billion in H1 2025, achieving a 99% ammonia utilization rate and zero lost‐time safety incidents.
  • Positive Sentiment: The Donaldsonville carbon capture and sequestration project began operations in July, capturing up to 2 million metric tons of CO₂ annually and generating 45Q tax credits plus premiums, adding over $100 million in annual EBITDA.
  • Positive Sentiment: Progress on the Blue Point joint venture is well underway with long‐lead equipment ordered and an air‐separation unit contract signed, positioning for ultra–low‐carbon ammonia production amid tightening supply.
  • Positive Sentiment: CF Industries produced $1.7 billion in free cash flow and returned approximately $2 billion to shareholders over the past 12 months, repurchasing over 10% of shares with a further $2.4 billion buyback authorization.
  • Negative Sentiment: Planned Q3 maintenance and some unplanned outages, combined with tight inventory driving higher logistics costs in Q2, are expected to reduce volumes and pressure margins.
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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the CF Industries First Half and Second Quarter of twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. Today, all participants will be in a listen only mode. I would now like to turn the presentation over to the host for today, Mr. Martin Jurosic with CF Investor Relations. Please proceed, sir.

Martin Jarosick
Martin Jarosick
VP - IR & Treasury at CF Industries

Good morning, and thanks for joining the CF Industries earnings conference call. With me today are Tony Will, President and CEO Chris Bohn, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer Bert Frost, Executive Vice President of Sales, Market Development and Supply Chain and Greg Cameron, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. CF Industries reported its results for the first half and 2025 yesterday afternoon. On this call, we'll review the results, discuss our outlook and then host a question and answer session. Statements made on this call and in the presentation on our website that are not historical facts are forward looking statements.

Martin Jarosick
Martin Jarosick
VP - IR & Treasury at CF Industries

These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Therefore, actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied in any statement. More detailed information about factors that may affect our performance may be found in our filings with the SEC, which are available on our website. Also, you'll find reconciliations between GAAP and non GAAP measures in the press release and presentation posted on our website. Now let me introduce Tony Will.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Thanks, Martin, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday afternoon, we posted results for the 2025 in which we generated adjusted EBITDA of $1,400,000,000 These results reflect outstanding operational performance by the CF Industries team against the backdrop of a tight global nitrogen supply demand balance. We are also executing well on our strategic initiatives. The Donaldsonville carbon capture and sequestration project began operating in early July and is running at designed rates. And progress on the new Blue Point joint venture is well underway.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

And we continue to return substantial capital to shareholders. Over the last twelve months, we have returned approximately $2,000,000,000 This includes repurchasing more than 10% of our outstanding shares since last July. Given our world class operating performance, the favorable global nitrogen industry dynamics, the financial benefits we generate from our strategic initiatives and our ongoing capital return programs, we are well positioned to create value for shareholders over both the near and longer terms. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris to provide more details on our operating results. Chris?

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Thanks, Tony. For the 2025, we continued to differentiate CF Industries from peers through safety and operational excellence. We had three recordable incidents in the first six months of 2025 and zero lost time days.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

This is particularly impressive given our scale and level of activity in the first half. Through the June, we produced 5,200,000 tons of gross ammonia, representing a 99% utilization rate. For the full year, we expect to produce approximately 10,000,000 tons of gross ammonia. The third quarter, as is typical for CF, will have lower production volumes than the first February due to planned maintenance activity. Turning to our strategic initiatives.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

We started up our Donaldsonville complex carbon capture and sequestration project in July. The carbon dioxide dehydration and compression unit has ramped up very well and we achieved full nameplate capacity within the first week. In addition to reducing carbon dioxide emissions by up to 2,000,000 metric tons per year, we'll earn a significant return from this project. We are generating 45Q tax credits and selling low carbon ammonia for a premium. For the Blue Point project, we along with Jera and Mitsui have been building out the project team and have begun ordering long lead time items.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

We also continue to evaluate opportunities to further derisk the project by leveraging best in class capabilities. For example, the joint venture signed an agreement with industry leader Linde to build and operate the air separation unit, which will supply nitrogen and oxygen for the ammonia production process. We remain excited about the compelling growth opportunity at Blue Point, given the tightening of the global nitrogen supply demand balance and the interest that has been generated in the ultra low carbon ammonia that will be produced there. With that, let me turn it over to Bert to discuss the global nitrogen market. Bert?

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Thanks, Chris. Throughout the 2025, the global nitrogen supply demand balance continued to tighten. Strong global nitrogen demand led by North America and India had to contend with low global nitrogen inventories and production disruptions in key supply regions. This included geopolitical events late in the second quarter that temporarily halted production in Egypt and Iran as well as two facilities in Russia. CF Industries team navigated these dynamics exceptionally well, especially as the North American spring application season lasted longer than normal.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Backed by strong production, we leveraged our leading logistics and distribution capabilities to capture incremental opportunities well into July. For example, last month we continue to make spot UAN sales at in season prices as supply from other sources was largely unavailable after the strong spring application season. As a result, our UAN inventory at the June was the lowest we have seen entering the third quarter in the last decade. This led us to delay our UAN fill program until next week, which is the latest we have ever launched. The delay has given us time to better understand customer requirement and communicate that fill prices will be significantly higher than 2024 given the tight global supply demand balance.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Farmer economics in North America have been an industry concern as the price of corn has not kept up with the price of inputs. However, we expect nitrogen demand in the region to remain robust. The corn to soybean ratio favors corn and farmers will be incentivized to optimize yield, supporting resilient demand for this nondiscretionary nutrient. In fact, our ammonia fill and fall prepay programs, which were closed at the July, saw strong uptake from customers. In the near and medium term, we believe the global nitrogen supply and demand balance will remain tight.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Global nitrogen inventory is low and the global demand is expected to be strong. Brazil and India alone are likely to acquire more than 8,000,000 metric tons of urea import through the end of the year, while the Northern Hemisphere, will begin purchasing for twenty twenty six applications. The global industry, even with the needed urea exports from China, does not have excess capacity to easily meet this demand. In fact, India closed its most recent tender at a price much higher than expected. Additionally, natural gas availability in Egypt, Iran and Trinidad has become chronic problems for their nitrogen industries and a high natural gas prices in Europe and Asia continue to challenge nitrogen producer margins in those regions.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

These structural challenges are further exacerbated by the uncertainty created by geopolitical events. Longer term, we expect the global nitrogen supply demand balance to tighten further through the end of the decade as projected new capacity growth is not keeping pace with demand growth for traditional fertilizer and industrial applications. We also believe demand for low carbon ammonia for new applications such as power generation will only further tighten the global supply demand balance. We are seeing this transition now. With the Donaldsonville CCS project operational, we will ship our first cargo of low carbon ammonia in the coming weeks and at a premium.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

We have steady demand today and growing interest in Donaldsonville low carbon ammonia volumes for new applications in addition to the longer term demand for ultra low carbon volumes from Blue Point. With that, Greg will cover our financial performance.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

Thanks, Bert. For the 2025, the company reported net earnings attributable to common stockholders of $698,000,000 or $4.2 per diluted share. EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA were both approximately $1,400,000,000 For the 2025, we reported net earnings attributable to common stockholders of $386,000,000 or $2.37 per diluted share. EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA were both approximately $760,000,000 As you will recall, we have begun consolidating the BluePoint joint venture into our financial statements. This is reflected in both our first half and second quarter twenty twenty five financial reporting.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

On a trailing twelve month basis, net cash from operations was $2,500,000,000 and free cash flow was $1,700,000,000 This includes a net benefit in the second quarter from the Blue Point project as capital contributions from our joint venture partners exceeded the project's capital expenditures. This will be the case for some time as we build cash in the joint venture ahead of expenditures. We returned approximately $280,000,000 to shareholders in the 2025, including two zero two million dollars to repurchase 2,800,000.0 shares. We remain committed to a balanced capital allocation strategy, investing in growth through the BluePoint joint venture while returning substantial capital to our shareholders. With the nitrogen and oxygen agreements with Linde that Chris mentioned, the cost of the BluePoint project is expected to be $3,700,000,000 CF Industries portion of the project along with the wholly owned common facilities is expected to total approximately $2,000,000,000 over the next four years.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

Over that same timeframe, we have $2,400,000,000 authorized for share repurchases. We expect to complete the $425,000,000 remaining on the current authorization before the end of the year. At that point, we will begin the $2,000,000,000 authorization. Finally, with the startup of the Donaldsonville CCS project, we will deliver incremental EBITDA and free cash flow beginning in the third quarter. We expect EBITDA and free cash flow to be north of $100,000,000 annually from the tax incentives and product premiums.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

This is a significant step towards the 2030 mid cycle projections we shared at Investor Day of three billion dollars in EBITDA and $2,000,000,000 in free cash flow. With that, Tony will provide some closing remarks before we open the call to Q and A.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Thanks, Greg. Before we move on to your questions, I want to thank the entire CF team for their contributions to an outstanding 2025. We are delivering world class operational performance across all aspects of our business and most importantly, doing so safely. I want to acknowledge Ashraf Malik, our Senior Vice President of Manufacturing and Distribution, who recently announced his intention to retire in the 2026. I recruited Ashraf into CF from our BroHaw joint venture in 2011.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

He was my right hand person when I ran manufacturing as he also was for Chris when he ran it. Appropriately, Ashraf took over as Head of Manufacturing when Chris moved into the CFO role in 2019. Ashraf is an experienced leader who has helped drive our culture of safety and operational excellence. We're fortunate to have him with us for the next nine months, but I do want to take this opportunity to personally thank him for his many contributions and to congratulate him on a tremendous career. Although CF Industries has been around for almost eighty years, in a couple of days, we'll be marking the twentieth anniversary of our company's IPO.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Over the last twenty years, CF Industries has built an extraordinary high margin focused business where we consistently execute at the highest levels, a global leader in every sense of the word. Our balanced approach to capital allocation, driving disciplined growth while executing consistent share repurchases has increased shareholder participation in our assets and the cash flow they generate. As you can see on Slide 13, we have driven a nearly threefold increase in nitrogen capacity per share since 2010. And this approach has led to superior shareholder return compared to all industry participants and even broader comparison groups. C.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Industries is well positioned to build on this track record in the years ahead. In the near and medium term, industry dynamics remain very favorable for our low cost North American production network. Longer term, we are investing in much needed low carbon ammonia capacity and have $2,400,000,000 authorized for continued share repurchases. Taken together, we expect to continue to drive strong cash generation and create substantial shareholder value. With that, operator, we will now open the call to your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And today's first question comes from Richard Garchitarena with Wells Fargo. Please proceed. Hi, thanks for taking my question.

Richard Garchitorena
Richard Garchitorena
VP - Equity Research at Wells Fargo Securities

You're progressing on the blue points. Obviously, we've consolidated results. My question is on the outlook for returns. Obviously, we had the big beautiful bill come out. I think there's some treatment of depreciation, may be changing.

Richard Garchitorena
Richard Garchitorena
VP - Equity Research at Wells Fargo Securities

Can you talk about how that impacts potentially the return calculations and how that may impact taxes from BluePoint and for CF? Thanks.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

Yeah, so it's Greg, I'll take that one first. So when we look at the joint venture, there's a number of items that are gonna run through that P and L from the tax side that we're gonna need to be coordinated with JV partners on it. Not only will our depreciation of the assets be important, the timing of the earnings to make sure we're maintaining our basis in the assets as well as the monetization of the 45Q credits. So we're in the process with our partners and with our advisors of modeling out those different variables. But what I could tell you in particular too, as we look at the depreciation, what we had in our original expectation within the model was already on an accelerated basis.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

So if you get to day one complete amortization depreciation of the asset, we don't expect it to materially change the overall return to the project that we've shared with you before, but we'll continue to model that out over the next few years and make sure that we understand how all these variables interplay against each other.

Operator

And the next question comes from Edlain Rodriguez with Mizuho. Please proceed.

Edlain Rodriguez
Equity Analyst at Mizuho Securities

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I mean, Tony, just kind of like when you look forward into 2026 and beyond, I mean, again, given where crop prices are and where fertilizer prices are, like what are you thinking there? I mean, again, kind of there's a disconnect between prices and input costs for farmers. So how do you see that develop over the course of next year?

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Hey, good morning, Edlain. This is Bert. And that is the question in the industry today, is how does a farmer solve the calculus of planting and at the end profitability. Fertilizer represents about 25% of the input costs for a crop. And so nitrogen, even less so of that 25%.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Then you've got diesel, equipment, crop insurance, feed, crop protection. And the big question is land rent and land value. The majority of farmers today are renting a portion, if some places, all of their land. And at $203,104 dollars an acre, that's where the push has to come. We believe in that calculation.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

We're a global product, globally traded, globally moved, globally valued product in the context of urea, UAN, and ammonia. And so we compete for imports and exports with the world. And so The US farmer in the same vein for corn, soybeans, cotton, wheat, whatever product, has to compete and I think there'll be some economizing with different sub parts of that calculus that I gave. But nitrogen is the non discretionary nutrient and will have to be applied and I think then farmers plant and apply for yield and they earn their way out of this difficult market.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Bert, I totally agree on that, which is I think once you've gone through all of the other expenses that you talked about, you are going to go ahead and try to optimize yield because it's the last couple of bushels that will actually make the difference in terms of profitability or not. And so at least with respect to nitrogen, we continue to see and expect full application rates because that's really how you're going to get profitable. It's not trying to save a couple of bucks by reducing your nitrogen application. Now, and K is a different story, but at least nitrogen we expect to go down.

Edlain Rodriguez
Equity Analyst at Mizuho Securities

Okay. Thank you much for your insight.

Operator

And the next question is from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Joel Jackson
Joel Jackson
MD - Equity Research at BMO Capital Markets

Hi, good morning, everyone. Can you talk about a report that came out yesterday around the time you reported? It seems like maybe if it's true, you've got a few days or a week of no loading happening at Dabil. Is that about demand that you had a huge quarter, of course, in Q2, volume's so good, demand's so good, you're out of inventory. Does that speak about the strong dynamic for yourselves in the market? Is there any production problems? And you can elaborate.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah, so Joel, this is Chris. I'll start. So the report was incorrect in the sense that it said that it was an operational issue with our loading at the Donaldsonville facility. We continue to have full access to loading production and utilization there, as you can see in second quarter, continues to be outstanding. I'm gonna let Bert talk to some of the inventory levels and some of the customer direction that we've done that was probably more the source of that than it was operational.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Several figures or issues at play Joel, with the dynamic nature of this spring application and into summer, we just did not have the inventory due to high demand. Some of the previous remarks of being one of the last companies standing with available supplies, so every day we had full. And in Donaldsonville, this is a reflection of team dynamics and discussion on how we work collaboratively, but urea product manager along with the production and allocation and logistics folks worked together. We had 2,000 tons of inventory yesterday. We produced 7,500 tons per day at Donaldsonville and when you throw in Fort Neil and Medicine, now we produce about 14,000 tons a day.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

So to have that low of an inventory and you're loading four to six barges a day at 1,500 tons per barge, you want to have inventory for consistent and reliable loading. So this was just a reflection of team coming together, making a decision and saying, let's build the inventory over the weekend, and then we'll be able to load barges more seamlessly than being sporadic. That's just good management and safe management for the team.

Operator

And our next question comes from Lucas Beaumont with UBS. Please proceed.

Lucas Beaumont
Lucas Beaumont
Director Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Thanks, Jes. Is this saw some cost pressure in the first half this year, both like on SG and A and your controllable non gas production costs, which were both sort of higher year on year. So could you please just kind of talk us through what the drivers were there, if there's anything that was kind of more one time and kind of think about the trajectory there going forward into the second half of next year? Thanks.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

Yes, I'll start and then I'll pass it to Chris. So let's start with SG and A. Listen, I've been here now thirteen months and continue to be impressed by the organizational structure we have and the operating efficiencies that the business has. And when I compare our SG and A to any benchmark in the industry, we are a very lean organization. So any small movement in the number small number will move that number on a percentage basis.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

This is specific to the quarter and specific to the second quarter, there was two discrete items to talk about. One was around our legal fees associated with us closing our BluePoint joint venture, only with a partner, but all the other agreements we had to put in place. That was about half of the difference versus last year. And the second part of the difference was almost all of the employees here at CF are on some type of variable compensation. And given what we're seeing from the operating performance of the company as well as the market pricing that is there, we made an adjustment within the quarter for our expectation and how that variable incentive will pay out in the year.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

So those are the two main items that explain the SG and A difference year over year. And as you think about it going forward, third quarter, fourth quarter probably look more similar to what we saw within the first quarter. Now on the cost side, I'll let Chris talk to it in particular, but just I'll make a couple of points as we try to analyze it. One, and you're right to do it ex gas, when you look at any ninety day period within the company, it's going to be impacted by timing of maintenance, either planned or unplanned. So we tend to look at things over longer periods of time.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

If I look at it over the first half, in fact, our controllable costs were down minimally low single digits, versus last year. If you look at it in particular on the second quarter, you remember in the first quarter of last year, we had maintenance events associated with weather that drove an acceleration of our maintenance, from the second quarter into the first quarter. So if I look at the variance in the second quarter twenty twenty five, it has more to do with what happened in 2024 than 2025. In fact, first quarter to second quarter, when you adjust for maintenance events, is fairly similar.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah, and just to add on to that, so as Greg mentioned, we do look at a longer timeframe because it could just be timing when something hits. But during the quarter, we had really two events that drove up some of that controllable cost, and one was unplanned outages at a couple facilities. Even though we had very high utilization throughout the rest of the network, There were two facilities that had some extended unplanned downtime. And what that resulted in, bringing it back to what Bert talked about with tight inventory, we had tight inventory at all of our locations. And as a result, to meet some of the customer commitments we had, we had increased logistics costs making those moves in order to service and provide the customers with their products.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

So a little bit stung by some unplanned outages, and then also the logistical moves just given how tight inventory is in the industry.

Operator

And our next question comes from Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Jeffrey Zekauskas
Jeffrey Zekauskas
Analyst at JP Morgan

Thanks very much. On the DCS project, you talked about $100,000,000 benefit. And I I think I get that. You know, there's an $85 a ton tax credit, and maybe it's costing you $35 a ton for, you know, various isolations of the c c o two. And so that gets you to an annualized rate of a 100,000,000. In general, these are tax credits. When does the cash come in, and how do you account for it? That is, do you take the tax credits on an ongoing basis? You know, when do you get paid from the government? How does that work?

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

Yeah. So, Jeff, it's Greg. I'll answer it two ways.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

One is from our financial statements and then from our tax cash payment.

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

So on our financial statements, we will begin accruing this into our EBITDA as the gas flows, And we've talked about that being an $85.45 Q credit that we'll net about $50 on up to 2,000,000 tons. And you'll begin to see that in our third quarter reported financials as part of our EBITDA calculation. Now on the cash side, obviously, we won't settle up on our cash tax position until the later part of 2026, But we will begin to withhold our expectations around what we're going to receive back for the 45Q credit as early as our September payments that we make in our estimated September payments, that we make into the IRS. So you'll begin to see the cash benefits of that almost immediately, and then obviously at the end when we file our final return next year, it'll all be part of that return.

Jeffrey Zekauskas
Jeffrey Zekauskas
Analyst at JP Morgan

Great. And just one follow-up. Can you talk about the theoretical relationship between the amount of ammonia made and the amount of CO2 captured? Sometimes, you know, when you read the literature, it seems that the CO2 captured should be much more in tonnage than the ammonia made. And what you have is something that's pretty close to one to one. Can you describe what's going on?

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah, Jeff, let me start off with that and then I'll turn it over to Chris. But all of our existing ammonia plants today are conventional steam methane reforming. And in general, you end up with about one third of the natural gas used to drive the process from an energy and heat perspective. And about two thirds of the natural gas goes into the actual process and the synthesis of ammonia. And so the total amount of gas, you know, about 32 on average MMBtus per ton of ammonia will generate about kind of call it 1.8 ish, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9 depending upon the plant in question, tons of CO2 per ton of ammonia.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

With the existing process though, because we're not doing flue gas capture on SMRs, you can only capture about two thirds of that, which is related to the process side of the equation. And then, know, Donaldsonville is one of our large upgrade facilities and when you're making urea, either as granular or as part of DEF or going into UAN, you have to use a lot of that process CO2 to make urea. So you actually have to use it downstream in the process and therefore it's not available for CCS. When we move to Blue Point, because it's a different process, autothermal reforming, we can capture a much, much higher percentage of the CO2, in that case, probably close to like 95% to 98%.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

I'm not certain there's much I can add to that.

Jeffrey Zekauskas
Jeffrey Zekauskas
Analyst at JP Morgan

Okay, thanks very much. That's pretty clear.

Operator

The next question is from Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Please proceed.

Christopher Parkinson
Managing Director at Wolfe Research, LLC

Great. Thank you so much. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the current supply side dynamics, into the second half and into 2026. I mean, there's been essentially everything. There have been attacks on Russian facilities, geopolitics, gas shortages in Eastern Europe and Trinidad.

Christopher Parkinson
Managing Director at Wolfe Research, LLC

I mean, there's literally been everything. But and ultimately demand has been stable to solid on the other side of that. But how should investors be thinking about the sustainability of these dynamics into 2026? And have you seen actually anything improve or are we still essentially at the status quo? Thank you.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Good morning Chris, this is Bert. And this has been an incredibly interesting market for the aspects that you articulated tax, geopolitical tax being tariffs, gas shortages and issues in high demand than on the opposite side. So starting with the tariffs, we've been in this discussion since March, it was going to be April, and so that delayed imports or even cut imports into The United States for Q2, and we are exiting Q2 and into Q3 inventory that needs to be rebuilt in The United States and Canada. And so we are doing our best at CF in terms of running as we do at very high rates and being efficient and moving our product. But as I mentioned in an earlier comment, nitrogen and fertilizer is a global commodity that moves based on price and based on needs.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

And we're now entering the peak season for the Southern Hemisphere. And you're seeing India step in yesterday closing 2,000,000 tons. That's the first time they've been able to close that ton, but at prices in the $500 $25 $130 range, very attractive compared to historical values. And so you've got high demand in the Southern Hemisphere, and I talked about in my prepared remarks, Brazil needing probably a million tons a month for the next several months to satisfy their first planting and then getting ready for their second crop that gets planted in January. And then you've got to quickly pivot to the Northern Hemisphere entering 2026 for Europe and North America.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

And I think that's going to be a very hard or very difficult calculation to close because of our inventories and the imports and the disruptions of tariffs. And then you go to the gas shortages that were created during the conflict in Iran and the cutoff of gas to Egypt, low gas supply in Trinidad. Just between, I'd say those three areas, disregarding what we lost just between Egypt and Iran over a million tons. And so then you have China entering the market with an additional 5,000,000 tons, it doesn't close the balance. This is why we're constructively positive, the market for Q3 and Q4, but into 2026 with the current pricing dynamic that we're experiencing.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Couple that with the low gas prices that North America that we're seeing at $3 makes for a very attractive position for CF.

Christopher Parkinson
Managing Director at Wolfe Research, LLC

And just if I may parlay that question into another, the second half is setting up pretty well in terms of ASPs and obviously we'll have to have our own views on operations and ultimately volume sold. But if you set up favorably on the free cash flow side, just even given the historical 60%, 70% of times, how should investors be thinking about the uses of cash? Because on one hand, obviously, a lot of people are going to be looking for buybacks. At the other, you are entering a CapEx cycle with BluePoint and there've been some debate on basically de risking at least the beginning of that cycle. So how should we be balancing those two views under the presumption that free cash flow should be a little bit better as we progress throughout the year? Thank you.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

Yes, I would say in general, Chris, we do have $2,400,000,000 open to buy on share repo. And we have, I think, a pretty good view of what expenditures look like for BluePoint going out initially. And these kind of projects, they start off a little on the slower side and then start accelerating. And then the big spend is really kind of year three and four as you're paying for all of the deliveries of the large modules and doing the construction work to put them together and get the plant kind of commissioned. But in general, as we're generating kind of more cash than what maybe an LRP would look like or even what the expectation of certain market segments look like, then we will probably go ahead and deploy that capital against the share repurchase more expeditiously than otherwise we might pace it out.

Christopher Parkinson
Managing Director at Wolfe Research, LLC

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Kristen Owen with Oppenheimer. Please proceed.

Mason Manware
Equity Research Associate at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Good morning. This is Mason Manwehr on for Kristen. I just wanted to follow-up on the carbon capture at Johnsonville question, in particular, the contribution of the credits in 3Q. Understanding that the 45Q for enhanced oil recovery is different from the permanent sequestration credit, you just help us understand the economics of the EOR credit, and is there any additional costs related to that process, or should we just think about the similar flow through just off that lower credit value?

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah, thanks. This is Chris. Mason, I would start with that our base case assumptions for not only the Donaldsonville but also the Blue Point in our Yazoo City is that it goes to Class VI permanent sequestration. And as far as the tax law, that particular allocation of the 45Q at $85 per metric ton did not change. The EOR did go up from $60 to $85 per metric ton, and as you may know, we've begun sequestering at Donaldsonville while Exxon is in the process of getting their Class VI utilizing the EOR and putting it permanent geological sequestration through EOR.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

That does allow us potentially to go from the $60 to $85 However, we don't believe that that's going to really make any type of difference from our economics as we have equivalent economics, whether it's EOR or the Class VI permit. The one thing I would mention is Exxon was granted a draft Class VI permit for its ROSE CCS project in July, and the comment period for that with the EPA ended earlier this week. And so it's our expectation that we'll be moving to that class six relatively soon here before the end of the year.

Mason Manware
Equity Research Associate at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Awesome, thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Vincent Andrews
Vincent Andrews
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Thank you and good morning everyone. I'm wondering,

Vincent Andrews
Vincent Andrews
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

I think the press release talked about an expectation that China will not export further this year at least after 3Q. So just curious what's driving that view, if it's anything in particular you're picking up on the ground with your sources in China?

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

We've been fairly consistent with our Chinese expectations that there is exportable tons available. The issue with China today is a lot of those tons are prilled urea and prilled urea is not desired by many places outside of India, Mexico, a few other And so what they offered, our initial volume target was 2,000,000 tons through Q3 and then they start building for their spring season through Q4 and Q1 of next year. Subsequent to that they announced an additional million tons.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

And again our commentary is that those are tons that are needed with the losses that have taken place in different parts of the world and the high demand position that the world is in, bringing those Chinese tons an additional million so to hit 3,000,000 tons. But so far they've been underperforming in terms of those exports out in June and July. So we'll see if they're able to hit those numbers. There was a rumor that India might be able to buy some Chinese tons. Those were, I would say forbidden, but they were not to be exported to India.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

That might still happen. And so constructively positive for world supply, not impacting I think pricing. They have since raised the minimum price in China for both the PRiLZ and the granular product. So we'll see what happens over the ensuing funds.

Vincent Andrews
Vincent Andrews
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

What about for the fourth quarter?

Vincent Andrews
Vincent Andrews
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

It sounds like you don't expect it for the fourth quarter.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Further announcements, that's all I'm going on is no.

Vincent Andrews
Vincent Andrews
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

And our next question comes from Matthew Deo with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Matthew De Yoe
Matthew De Yoe
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America

Yeah. Thank you. Look, I know you made some comments about insufficient nitrogen supply additions, but what do you make of some of the larger capacity functions for urea that CRU has kind of noted or flagging coming to the market the next five years in China? It's kind of the prevailing assumption that China won't build that or just it just won't get exported given some of the current, policies?

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

You have several factors going on in world supply and demand. And focusing on the supply side, there are plants in Russia, Iran, and Turkey totaling about 2,700,000 tons. And then the four plants in China, think you're referencing, targeting 2,600,000 tons that are scheduled to start up in the ensuing, I'd say this year and next year, and then some ongoing construction. But you've had plants taken offline and then the gas issues that we've talked about in different parts of the world. So as you look at overall growth in the one to 1.5% growth each year that we see in the need for urea, again, if that's a 200,000,000 ton supply, you need two world scale plants to three per year to be built just to stay steady with the growth.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

And so again, with the restrictions, whether that be Europe or Trinidad or different parts of the world that have gone offline, we don't see that keeping pace. And you're seeing that reflected today in continued strong demand. Brazil is a great example. Brazil is going be 9,000,000 tons. It has steadily grown year after year with again yield accompanying that, whether that be corn, wheat, or cotton, yields improving, they're going to need additional and they don't have any urea plants coming on.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

They're talked about with Petrobras bringing several of those plants back online, that's going to take some time. And we're seeing India, even though they built these new plants, they're not operating to expectations and so they're underperforming in terms of their total production based on expectations. So you go around the world, Ukraine is not operating, Pakistan's not operating. You've got different parts that are driving the supply shortage with the demand increasing. I would just add to that on Bert's comments that generally in China when new production's going on, a lot of times that replacement of old, less efficient or higher particulate matter plants that are going offline.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

So it's a bit of a replacement. Additionally, view on the tightening S and D balance from a nitrogen perspective, specifically ammonia, is based on there's a lot of upgrade urea plants that are going in to consume that ammonia. As we see this tightening of the ammonia market, part of it is just new upgrade plants going in both here in The US and globally that are consuming that ammonia and tightening that market even more. And then coupled with what Bert said, with European production continuing to be challenged, we expect that to continue as well. So I think it's still going to be a very tight market as we move through the end of this decade.

Matthew De Yoe
Matthew De Yoe
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America

I appreciate that. And and one more, I guess. If if we think about the blue and green ammonia market, how much do you think ultimately could get moved into, say, Asian energy markets for shipping? Right? Like, how much tonnage can that ultimately be?

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah, I would say the base case right now, between now and 02/1930, we're looking at is probably 3,000,000 tons of low carbon ammonia would be moving in there, primarily for power generation. However, with that, I think what we're seeing with our announcement actually moving forward is more interest from other parties who are contacting not only BERT but also bidding through different areas for low carbon production, both in power gen and then you're also seeing a little bit more starting to grow in the marine side. I still think the marine side's a bit farther out than 02/1930, but you are beginning to see ammonia engine vessels being constructed.

Matthew De Yoe
Matthew De Yoe
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America

Thank you for that.

Operator

And the next question comes from Ben Theurer with Barclays. Please proceed.

Benjamin Theurer
Managing Director at Barclays Corporate & Investment Bank

Yeah, good morning and thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to understand a little bit better the sequential dynamics in ammonia. If we take a look at 2Q versus 1Q, it feels like the gas price came down, but at the same time, margin was actually significantly worse on a sequential basis. So just want to understand what's been happening here and how we should think about the back half of the year as it relates to assuming gas prices where they are right now, what that should do to your nutrient adjusted gross margin per ton?

Greg Cameron
Greg Cameron
EVP & CFO at CF Industries

Yes, no, no, I'll start and pass it over to Chris. This is Greg. So as we talked about before and Chris talked about in particular with some of the unplanned outages we saw as well as the distribution costs of moving product around to meet customers' needs, that ran through particularly in the ammonia segment into the second quarter.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah, and we also, as Greg mentioned earlier, we look at it more than just on a quarter by quarter, given some of the timing. And now as we look at the back half of the year, as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, Q3 is generally a little bit heavier of a turnaround period, so we may see a couple 100,000 tons less of gross production of ammonia during that period as well. And on the movement of the product, Q3 is generally an industrial export quarter with Q4 being more ag based. We've built a very solid order book for Q4 for, that's weather dependent, but the weather always cooperates with CF Industries. So we're going see that be a positive time of, and the pricing has been very positive and the demand uptake very positive.

Benjamin Theurer
Managing Director at Barclays Corporate & Investment Bank

Yeah, perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question is from Andrew Wong with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Andrew Wong
Andrew Wong
Equity Research Analyst - Fertilizers & Uranium at RBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe topical question for today to start, what's your view on how a Russia Ukraine truce or some sort of peace settlement could impact on the snack gas prices and and also on the nitrogen market?

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

Yeah. I have several Russian friends and Ukrainian friends, and I am I would take it to peace. I would love to see peace break out and this situation end, and it bothers me that we take it economically. And I understand that's a reflection of our business. The Russian tons that are coming to The United States, it amazes me that we are sending bombs and missiles there, but bringing fertilizers here.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

So I would hope that that is addressed in some form or fashion. But the impact on natural gas, that's not going to come back anytime soon. Nord Stream system is not going to be rebuilt anytime soon. The frustration I believe with European NATO allies and the purchasing of Russian product, whether that be gas or in the form of nitrogen, probably is not going to come back anytime soon. There's tariffs and sanctions coming that will only increase on Russian product.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

And so I think for the world you're gonna see much more North American natural gas moving to Europe and other places and we're gonna see on a BCF type basis probably going from 15 in The United States up to the mid-20s in the next several years. On a nitrogen basis, again, it's a world, it's a globally traded commodity. I think the pricing and the product moves as relation to product needs as well as the values communicated. Russian product is traded at a discount to Brazil and India. I expect that to continue for a while.

Christopher Bohn
Christopher Bohn
EVP, COO & Director at CF Industries

And then we'll see what happens with these peace talks but hopefully that progresses before we have to talk about other issues.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Yeah, would just add just on the energy front. Anything, it would have to be sold relatively quickly to stop some of the pressure that's already in motion, specifically for European producers given the maintenance activity that these plants require, the working capital and the demand timing as you're building production for two points of the year of demand. So I think from our perspective, what we see from a European curtailment and shutdown is expected to continue no matter what happens, just given the timeframe it would take in order to build back Nord Stream or bring in more Russian LNG through that timeframe.

Andrew Wong
Andrew Wong
Equity Research Analyst - Fertilizers & Uranium at RBC Capital Markets

Okay, I appreciate all that. And then maybe just switching over to Europe with the implementation of C band, Can you just talk about how you see that impacting the markets both in Europe and globally? And how does that change the role of Europe as a marginal cost center?

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Yeah, so I'll start and I'll see if anybody else wants to add in. But right now, just to put in context, CBAM's in a transitional phase where right now importers have to report their carbon intensity. So it goes into place in January. And there's quite a few details that are still being worked out that our hope is by the end of the year here, the specifics to that particular program are put in place. But what it will allow us based on today where it's roughly an $80 per metric ton carbon tax on producers, that we should begin to see with our low carbon ammonia coming out of Donaldsonville, something that's probably in the $25 per metric ton benefit that continues to increase through the years that by 2030 would be equivalent to $100 per metric ton advantage that low carbon production out of Donaldsonville would have.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

So from our perspective, it's going to be something that we haven't really worked into all of our models of upsides and that's why we feel confident that we've been probably overly conservative, but will be something that will be an advantage and almost a carbon arbitrage opportunity for CF as we're able to move our product in there. Yeah, I agree with Chris. In terms of how we're looking at CBAM, but also working with our existing operating units in The UK and planning to send low carbon ammonia to produce low carbon ammonium nitrate for that market as well as other customers, industrials as well as fertilizer producers, we see a tremendous opportunity in the near term with the product we're already making due to our CCS and longer term with the Blue Point operation.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

And I would just add, we are seeing a, as Bert commented in his remarks, we're seeing demand and a premium for the carbon intensity product already today. That's even before you get into the CBAM situation. So this has been a great kind of initiative for us, not only because the 45Q makes it a really highly accretive investment on the CO2 capture and dehydration compression injection, but also because on top of the 45Q we're getting paid incrementally a differentiated product margin for the attribute. So this is just another step up as Chris said, which will add to that with the C band that wasn't worked in or expected in any of the initial calculations around BluePoint.

Andrew Wong
Andrew Wong
Equity Research Analyst - Fertilizers & Uranium at RBC Capital Markets

And maybe just the other part of the question, like just on the nitrogen market itself, like what is the impact there and on EU in its marginal cost role?

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

The impact, I assume what you're asking for is what is the impact on low carbon product to the market?

Andrew Wong
Andrew Wong
Equity Research Analyst - Fertilizers & Uranium at RBC Capital Markets

No, just in general, right now, the marginal cost that are kind of, right, with the high cost, that raise the cost profile? Does it change how the market works and maybe they're a different part of the market now? Like how does that?

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Yeah, I think what it's gonna do is it is going to raise the cost of the product going into Europe, obviously, as you're having to pay for that carbon tax that's there. But I don't think it changes anything with European production. So as demand grows here and you're seeing that constraint, that's why we very strongly believe that you're going to have to incent new production globally to be bid in. And what we've seen recently, with the exception of our project, a lot of these other projects that were in FID state have either deferred those FIDs or canceled the projects altogether. So we see the back half of this decade just getting tighter and that's at the same time that we'll be bringing on our production.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

So we think the cost curve from that perspective given demand growth will probably move up along with some of these other carbon initiatives globally.

Andrew Wong
Andrew Wong
Equity Research Analyst - Fertilizers & Uranium at RBC Capital Markets

Thank you.

Operator

And the next question comes from Aaron Ciccarelli with Berenberg. Please proceed.

Aron Ceccarelli
Equity Research Analyst at Berenberg

Hello. Hi. Good morning. What is CF perspective on nitrogen fixation products? Do you see these products as a growing risk to traditional nitrogen producers, or do you expect farmers to adopt them as a complementary solution?

Aron Ceccarelli
Equity Research Analyst at Berenberg

And perhaps additionally, would CF be interested in entering the nitrogen fixation market? Thank you.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

Well this has been a topic, nitrogen fixation, microbials, biologicals, different applied products for years. And I've been following this phase for a couple decades. And there have been many new entrants. And we have a lot of access to farmers. We have paid attention to the studies from the various universities.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

And I would say today it's a questionable segment. They haven't performed as advertised. They've been tried and there are variables. I've talked to two farmers most recently with all the variables controlled being water, the only variable being weather, but water, seed, crop protection, fertilizer being constant. And the variable being products.

Bert Frost
Bert Frost
EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain at CF Industries

And at times they work and at times they don't. Are we interested? Well we follow these things because it has an impact on our business. We want to align with the retailers and farmers that are doing best practices. And so far we haven't seen the performance as advertised.

W. Anthony Will
W. Anthony Will
President, CEO & Director at CF Industries

The other thing I would just add to that is our expectation is that the value associated with any kind of, as Bert said, biological or other approach is really to drive increased yield as opposed to a cost reduction based on nitrogen. If you think about a couple 100 pounds of nitrogen going down per acre, even at relatively strong values for nitrogen, it's worth a lot more to the grower to increase yield by three or 4% than it is to try to take 5% of the nitrogen off the field. There's just more dollars associated with the end grain. And so we don't really see this as a, necessarily as a competing technology, more of a value enhancement to the grower.

Aron Ceccarelli
Equity Research Analyst at Berenberg

Interesting. Thank you very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that is all the time we have for questions today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Martin Jarosik for any closing remarks.

Martin Jarosick
Martin Jarosick
VP - IR & Treasury at CF Industries

Thanks everyone for joining us, and we look forward to seeing you at the upcoming conferences.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect your lines.

Executives
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      Martin Jarosick
      VP - IR & Treasury
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      W. Anthony Will
      President, CEO & Director
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      Christopher Bohn
      EVP, COO & Director
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      Bert Frost
      EVP - Sales, Market Development & Supply Chain
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      Greg Cameron
      EVP & CFO
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      Director Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group
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      Managing Director at Morgan Stanley
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      Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America
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      Managing Director at Barclays Corporate & Investment Bank
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      Equity Research Analyst - Fertilizers & Uranium at RBC Capital Markets
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      Equity Research Analyst at Berenberg