Alfa Financial Software H1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Subscription revenue grew by 17%, annual recurring revenue reached €42 million (up 16%) with net revenue retention at 112%, underscoring strong customer loyalty in a SaaS model.
  • Positive Sentiment: Total revenue rose to $62.5 million (up 22% at constant currency) and operating profit increased 33%, driving an EBITDA margin of 37%.
  • Positive Sentiment: The late-stage pipeline remains robust with seven prospects (six under engagement letters) and subscription total contract value up 12% to $210.7 million.
  • Positive Sentiment: The Board declared a special dividend of 5 pence per share, reflecting strong cash generation (cash balance increased to $23.9 million).
  • Negative Sentiment: Management forecasts lower second-half operating margins due to higher headcount and salary costs plus no repeat of first-half FX hedge gains, although full-year guidance is unchanged.
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Alfa Financial Software H1 2025
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Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Alfa's twenty twenty five Half Year Results. I'm Andrew Denton, Alfa's CEO, and I'm joined as always by our CFO, Duncan McGrath and our COO, Matthew White. In overview, Alpha has had an outstanding first half. We've continued to focus on growing subscription revenue, and we've seen that grow by 17%. We've also seen strong growth in subscription TCV at 12% versus the first half of last year.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

This year, for the first time and in subsequent years, we will be publishing annual recurring revenue and net revenue retention. Duncan will outline the detail behind this. But in summary, we have seen annual recurring revenue of €42,000,000 which is up 16% on the first half of last year and net revenue retention of 112%. I'm delighted with the growth in annual recurring revenue, and our net revenue retention figure shows that Alpha's industry leading customer retention is just as strong in a SaaS only world as we grow our customer base with new subscription sales. Subscription revenues now make up 34% of total revenues, and we have 23 Alpha Cloud customers, which is up from 20 this time last year.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

More generally, we've seen strong sales and delivery momentum continue through from the full year. The late stage pipeline is strong with seven prospects. We are working under letters of engagement or equivalent with six of those seven customers in the late stage pipeline. And really importantly, we are seeing normal levels of activity in the early stages of the pipeline. From a delivery perspective, we've again seen a strong period, and I'm delighted to say that we now have nine customers live on Alpha System six, which underscores our messaging around this breakthrough new version of our software.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Alpha System six is a frictionless upgrade opportunity for our existing customers. As always, we continue to invest in product, people and planet. Our average headcount is up 7% with continued high staff retention at 97%. We've invested a total of $19,400,000 into our software in the first half, with particular focus on expanding our target addressable market with commercial finance and expanding our serviceable addressable market through developments in the areas of originations and automotive fleet. From a financial perspective, our full year expectations remain unchanged.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We continue to be confident in our future prospects. And as a result, the Board has declared a special dividend of 5p. So on to the financial highlights. Revenue was $62,500,000 which is up 22% at constant currency on twenty twenty four first half revenue of $52,300,000 We've maintained our excellent momentum in subscription revenue growth at 17%, being around the same level we saw last year. And as I've already said, net revenue retention was 112%, which demonstrates outstanding customer retention.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Our excellent performance in contracting new business is demonstrated by a total contract value of $210,700,000 This is up from $193,300,000 this time last year. That's 9% growth in our TCV versus last year, with subscription TCV growth of 12%, as I've mentioned, and software engineering TCV growth of 12%. At $21,600,000 operating profit was up 33% from this time last year. Our operating profit margin was higher than normal at 35% in the half, which was up from 31% in the first half of last year. This was driven by increased chargeability in our software engineering teams.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

EBITDA margin at 37% showed significant growth from last year's 33%. And finally, cash was at $23,900,000 up from $22,000,000 this time last year. And I'll hand over to Duncan.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Thanks, Andy. The figures really speak for themselves, and the 2025 was a very strong financial performance. Revenue was up 20% at actual rates or 22% at constant currency, with growth across all revenue streams. There was particularly strong growth in software engineering, which was up 72% on the back of significantly higher chargeability than the first half last year. The improved chargeability improved the gross margin percentage, up 130 basis points to 64.2%.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Operating profit grew even more strongly than revenue, up up 33% to deliver an operating margin of 34.6%. It is worth noting that I estimate that the FX hedges that we put in place to protect ourselves from movements in sterling versus the U. S. Dollar added two forty basis points to the margin in the first half. The effective tax rate of 26% was in line with last year, and so basic EPS also grew by 33% in the half.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Diluted EPS was up 34% at 5.35p per share. Overall, a really strong performance. And given our confidence in the future prospects for the business, the Board has declared a special dividend of 5.0p per share. Turning now to TCV. 2024 really was a standout year for our revenue and commercial teams, which was demonstrated by the 34% increase in TCV in the calendar year.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We said in March that we expected to work through the TCV during 2025, and we have seen a 5% reduction in total TCV since the year end, but it is still up 9% on this time last year. Next twelve months TCV is up even more strongly versus this time last year, particularly in delivery and software engineering due to the new contracts we won in the second half of last year. We have calculated TCV on a consistent basis for many years now, but a number of people have noted that because we only include three years of subscription revenues, which is a much shorter time period than our average customer life, that it may understate the impact of subscription on our business. There is a benefit in consistent measures that you can view over time, but not if it misrepresents the growing importance of subscription revenues to our business. So to help this and reflecting our transition to a SaaS business model, we've decided to going forward supplement the TCV disclosure with the more traditional SaaS metrics of ARR and NRR, which you can see on the next slide.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

On the left, you can see our annual recurring revenue or ARR figures for the last three reporting periods. We calculate this using the average subscription revenues over the last six months and then annualize them. We exclude any revenues that we do not expect to last twelve months at the start of the contract. This picture shows what you would expect, a very strong growth in ARR, up 16% versus last year, very much in line with the overall growth in subscription revenues. The graph on the right shows our net revenue retention percentage or NRR and gives a financial metric, which represents the net impact of churn and growth in the subscription revenues.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

This is calculated by taking the percentage of recurring revenues from twelve months ago that we have retained, including where we have sold additional services. Whilst we are often asked by those new to the Alpha story about churn, in reality, Closer watches our story know that it is in effect zero. And this is demonstrated by an NRR figure for the last three reporting periods that is considerably in excess of 100%. At 06/30/2025, the 112% NRR was particularly high as we had some new subscription customers at very low levels this time last year. Over the last twelve months, these contracts have started to ramp up through implementation, a typical pattern I explained in some detail at our last results presentation, and hence, the 112% NRR.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We would not necessarily expect to be at such a high level going forwards, with the figures from June and December perhaps being better representative of a more normal level. So looking now at overall subscription revenues. Subscription revenues continue to grow each quarter. For the first six months, they were up 17% versus the same period last year. The growth in our Alpha Cloud customers has been a significant contributor to our recent growth in subscription revenues, and you can see that we've increased Alpha Cloud customers from 20 last year to 23 this year.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We now have 16 customers on v five or Alpha System six who are live but not on Alpha Cloud. We don't expect to convert all 16 to Alpha Cloud, but would expect to convert the majority, and so this can continue to be a source of growth for the next few years. 12% growth in subscription TCV also underpins our confidence that this revenue stream will continue to show strong growth going forwards. Turning to software engineering revenues. Last year, we had a relatively low first half and a much stronger second half.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

The strength from the second half has carried through into H1 twenty twenty five, and comparing this with H1 twenty twenty four gives us 72 percent increase in revenues. This revenue is largely off the same headcount base and is simply due to changing the nature of the work being performed, resulting in much higher chargeability than last year. And this is a significant factor in the very strong operating margin percentage that we generated in H1. The biggest contributor to this increased chargeable work was from new customers we won in the second half of last year, with chargeable development from new customers increasing from 1,200,000 to 4,500,000. At the moment, we are anticipating this to ease off slightly in H2, but it's also potentially an area that we could outperform our expectations if we get client approvals signed off more quickly than we expect.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Perpetual license accounting, both one off and customized license, totaled $1,300,000 this year, slightly down on the $1,600,000 last year, so a relatively small drag in this period from the move to a SaaS model. TCV is up 12% from last year on the back of these new projects with good coverage for the next twelve months. Turning to our final revenue stream, delivery. As expected with the ramp up of new projects, our delivery revenues increased 10% versus last year. We have 11 projects underway where the customer is not yet live, and only when these contracts are live will they drive up our subscription revenues.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Of course, as these projects come to an end, we would expect them to be replaced by new projects. Overall delivery of TCV is showing as flat year on year. Can see that the coverage for the next twelve months has increased significantly, and this is driving our increased recruitment needs. The after twelve months element shows a drop, but this is mainly a function of taking quite a cautious view of our largest implementation project, where we have only counted up to the 2026, which is the first phase of a multiphase project and including nothing thereafter. We fully expect the project to continue beyond that date and generate further delivery revenues.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Turning now to expenses. Cost of sales grew by 15% over last year, largely on the back of increases in costs from headcount and salary increases. Hosting costs increased with the growth in Alpha Cloud. Sales, general and admin expenses were up 11%. There's growth in salary costs, but more significant was the increase in profit share and share based payments.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

FX has been significant in the period. We had net transaction gains of $1,100,000 in the period. Within this, the impact of realized and unrealized gains on the U. S. Dollar FX hedges was $1,700,000 offset by other transactional losses of $600,000 The exchange rate at the 06/30/2025 was 1.37 we could see some reversal of these gains in H2 if sterling weakens against this level.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Other income was flat at $300,000 and this was the income from our R and D expenditure credit that is shown on this line. I will cover it under modeling guidance, but the impact of not expecting FX hedges to repeat and the impact of higher headcount and salary costs and depreciation and amortization in the second half will result in a lower operating margin in H2 compared with H1. Turning now to cash flow. In March, I estimated that cash conversion for the year would be 80% to 90% for 2025 as a result of accelerated receipts in 2024 on two projects. Cash conversion of 88% for H1 was in line with this estimate.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

For 2026 and beyond, we would expect to be in the range of 90% to 100%. Dividends paid increased $1,500,000 on last year to 11,200,000.0 Overall, there was a net cash inflow of $3,400,000 for a cash balance of $23,900,000 at the period end. Now some words on capital allocation. Alpha remains a highly cash generative business. As we have transitioned to a SaaS model, this has reduced the upfront license payments we received under the perpetual license model, but this is making the cash flow smoother.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We have a strong track record of returning excess cash to shareholders through dividends. Cumulative dividends paid in the last five years are now up to $153,000,000 and our overall dividend yield from ordinary and special dividends has been running between 3.5% to 5%. There are no immediate investment requirements for our current excess cash, so we have declared a special dividend of 5.0p per share, up 19% on this time last year. Next, a brief update on modeling guidance. This slide is largely reiterating existing guidance, which remains unchanged as regards full year outturn, investment, cash flow and currency sensitivity.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So I will just touch on two things now. Firstly, to reiterate what I mentioned earlier that we expect to see a lower level of software engineering revenues in H2, and this along with increases in salary costs and assuming no further gain on the FX hedges means we expect lower operating margins in H2 than H1. So whilst we will see similar levels of revenue in H2 to H1, we will see lower operating profit. Secondly, a minor point, but due to starting up some projects in new overseas territories, we expect a small increase in our effective tax rate for the full year to 26%, 1% higher than The UK statutory rate. I will now hand over to Matt for an operational update.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Thanks, Duncan. We've had a great start to the year in every team across the business and the result is fantastic performance now and really good progress with our strategic objectives as we build for the future. We're strengthening our three differentiators, our team, our product and our delivery. We're selling, as Andrew will describe later on. We're scaling our capacity to deliver for the future and we're simplifying so that we can deliver even more alphas even more efficiently.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Now everything starts with our fantastic team. So our people are always the first differentiator that I mentioned. Our team is growing with an average headcount up 7% on h one last year. In fact, we've recruited around 40 people this year so far to enable the delivery of that strong pipeline that Andrew will cover. And this headcount growth will feed into our h two costs as set out by Duncan. And we put a lot of effort into making sure that we recruit very, very talented people. And because we recruit high quality people and because we have a growth mindset culture and because we're always striving to achieve more as a company, developing talent within our team will always be a focus for us. Ensuring world class leadership at all levels is a particular focus at the moment, and that's why our continuous conversations initiative is really important. We're giving our people the tools to make one to one conversations across the business even more impactful for performance in current tasks, but also for development, for career goals, and for well-being. And it's initiatives like this that have resulted in us retaining our gold accreditation from investors and people.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We've seen improvements in our ratings in every area. We avoid complacency, but we're really pleased with our engagement score and with our stellar retention rate. And people sometimes ask whether retention at Alpha is too high. The answer for us is no. Retaining our talented team is hugely important because we're building something special here.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And the higher our retention rate, the faster we can build on the experience within business. Our Lisbon Smart Hub has shown that we can access talent beyond our long standing office locations in The US, London, Sydney, and Auckland. And we've now started recruiting in the Gdansk area in Poland. We're finding some great talent. In Lisbon, we recruited software engineers only and we did find great talent.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

In Gdansk, we're recruiting more engineers, but also for our cloud hosting operations team. Our delivery track record is perhaps our most important differentiator. We delivered 11 upgrades in h one and another five since then. More frequent customer upgrades is really important to simplifying and to ensuring quality deliver for our delivery for our customers. And when we've spoken to you in the past, we've described Alpha System six as a low friction upgrade and we contrasted that, contrasted the move from v five to a s six with the upgrade from v four to v five.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We already have nine customers live on Alpha System six, which clearly demonstrates the success of this strategy. Progress on all of our projects remains excellent. Our software maintenance remains first class, and our cloud hosting operation remains both gold standard quality and super efficient. Maintaining the quality of our product and our delivery is hugely important in ensuring that we maintain our position as the premium provider in our industry. Partner led delivery will enable us to access new markets and enable us to do more in some of our existing markets than we can achieve by growing the Alpha team alone.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

A key next step in making partner led delivery a reality will be to deliver a minimum viable product of a partner led delivery project for a UK equipment start project. Now we're still waiting for the right project to come along here. Our pipeline as a whole is strong, but the right project in the right region and the right industry is required for this particular next step. But we haven't just been waiting. We're working on our US auto start product.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We're making sure that we use our existing US auto projects to build our product for the future and we're learning more about the lower tier U. S. Auto finance market, which we believe will be key for partner led delivery in the future. While we expect partner led delivery to contribute a relatively small proportion of our revenue, we do expect revenue for these customers to be weighted While towards higher margin subscription. Our headline strategy for delivery is simplification.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Our market opportunity is huge, and simplification will allow us to deliver more Alpha Systems implementations more efficiently. So we're investing in our AlphaStar accelerators for larger customers and our AlphaStar products for smaller customers. And we're investing in migration tooling to enable legacy portfolios to be converted to Alpha systems more easily. We're investing in automated testing to simplify the upgrade process for our customers. We're investing in our Alpha Cloud hosting operation to make it even more efficient as it scales.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And we're investing in AskThea, our large language model chatbot for system documentation. All of this means that projects today require considerably less effort from our highly skilled delivery team than in the past, and that allows us to layer on subscription revenue from more and more customers more efficiently. And finally, we are extending our product differentiation. We're delivering new functionalities for our customers now with some really important product enhancements being carried out directly for customers for deliveries now. Our Alpha development model is bedding in and we're seeing the results in some great KPIs.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And we're also investing for the future. Our focus here is on US Auto Originations, fleet and commercial finance, all of which will increase the market that we can access. We're there with demonstrable products in all three areas, and we're making good progress towards our goals of sellable products by the end of the year. And really importantly, we're also working with closely with customers in all three of these areas. And this is always our preferred way of working.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We're confident that this will result in a product that's a great fit for the market as a whole. US auto originations and fleet functionality allow us immediately to service an additional part of our existing target addressable market in asset finance. So they increase our serviceable addressable market. The commercial finance market is something we've been working on for a while and investment in this area will continue into next year and beyond. At the moment, we're working with customers in the asset finance market who have commercial finance offerings.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

The longer term goal, which may be a number of years away, is to open up a brand new addressable market and to sell to standalone commercial finance customers. The potential for the long term prospects here are really exciting. In the short term, the late stage pipeline is also really exciting, and I'll hand over to Andrew for an update on that.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Thanks for that, Matthew. As I said at the top of the presentation, our late stage pipeline is strong. With eight new customer wins in twenty twenty four, our delivery teams have been fully utilized in the first half of this year, and this has kept TCV high. Today, we have seven prospects in our late stage pipeline, and we are preferred supplier with all seven. With six of these prospects, we are doing paid work and a letter of engagement or equivalent.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Returning to the theme of subscription growth, it's worth noting that three of the seven have an annual subscription revenue of over £2,000,000 once they get to full run rate. And that strong late stage pipeline is backed up by an equally strong and dynamic early stage. And I will discuss market demand on the next slide. Our strong pipeline demonstrates that there is strong demand in our end markets, and our exceptional sales performance in 2024 has driven growth across all our revenue categories. This is building our future performance in subscription.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We continue to invest in our product to widen and deepen our competitive moat and to expand our target addressable market and our serviceable addressable market. Subscription will see growth in the mid teens as new customers ramp up. And our expectations for this year, as I said, are unchanged with an expectation of double digit revenue growth. So in summary, we've had an outstanding first half, and we are set fair to deliver in line with our expectations. We continued our focus on growing subscription revenue, and we've seen that grow by 17%.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We've also seen strong sales growth in subscription with TCV growing 12% versus the first half of last year. We've seen annual recurring revenue of GBP 42,000,000, which is up 16% on the first half of last year and net revenue retention of 112. As I said, I'm delighted with the growth in annually recurring revenue, and our net revenue retention figure shows that Alpha's industry leading customer retention is just as strong in today's SaaS only world. Subscription revenues now make up 34% of total revenue revenues, and we have 23 Alpha Cloud customers, up from 20 this time last year. We've seen really strong sales and delivery momentum continue through from the full year.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

The late stage pipeline is strong with seven prospects, and we are working under letters of engagement or equivalent with six of those. From a delivery perspective, we've again seen a strong period. And I'm delighted to say that we have nine customers live on Alpha System six. That reinforces what we've been saying about this breakthrough new version of our software. Alpha System six is a frictionless upgrade.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And we've continued to invest in product, people and planet. Average headcount up 7% with continued high staff retention at 97%, investing a total of £19,400,000 into our software in the first half, with particular focus on expanding target addressable market and expanding our serviceable addressable market. And finally, from a financial perspective, as I've been saying, our full year expectations remain unchanged, and we continue to be confident in our future prospects. So as a result, the Board has declared a special dividend of 5p. Thank you very much for listening.

Thank you to the Alpha team for the presentation. We've had a number of questions that have been presubmitted and submitted live. Now moving on to the first question that has been submitted. How is demand for software from banks and finance companies right now? Maybe that's one for you, Andy. Thanks

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

very much. And first and foremost, from all of us at Alfa, thank you very much for taking the time to attend this afternoon's presentation. We appreciate it, and we appreciate all the excellent questions. I tried to cover this off in my part of the presentation, and we looked at the late stage pipeline where we have seven, good customers at that well developed state. Six of them are doing paid work with us.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

That's something that we try to do, at Alpha to start that level of engagement as early as we possibly can in the sales cycle. I also touched on the early stage pipeline or the earlier stages in the pipeline that are backing up that late stage pipeline. And we're seeing an awful lot of dynamism, a lot of activity in the early stage pipeline. And perhaps the question within the question is what are the things that are driving that? It's, as everybody on the call knows, a very interesting world at the moment.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And in interesting worlds tend to bring a couple of things along with them. One of them is regulatory and governance change. And in general, we deal with large regulated, highly governed entities. That means that as those things change, they need systems to support that change, and heart and lung systems like Alpha are very much fundamental in that. If your existing systems don't support that, you need to change them.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Systems like Alpha are also a platform for for innovation, and particularly with Alpha, with the level of configurability, techniques like business rules and workflow, and so on. If you don't have systems that have those kind of capabilities in an increasingly competitive market, then you need to replace your system in in order to give yourself a platform for new product development and innovation within the market. So those are a of factors that are driving that early stage pipeline. But the summary answer to the question is that we're seeing really strong demand, and we're very, very happy with the sales pipeline at the moment.

Thank you. Next question. What sectors, in brackets, auto finance, equipment leasing, fleet, etcetera, are showing the strongest growth?

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

I suppose the obvious answer to to that is that we are seeing growth across across all of the sectors that we work in. We're we're fortunate in terms of the resiliency of the business that we operate in a lot of countries, a lot of end markets, and that gives the business a a natural resilience as we progress forward. It might be useful in thinking about why is growth coming from all of those markets, perhaps to develop a little bit my answer to the first question. We tend to see the the reason for buying systems. We we categorize them as push factors and pull factors.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Push factors, are things like regulatory changes I discussed, cybersecurity, the fact that somebody might be sunsetting, decommissioning your old system that you're currently running on. Those are things that you've got no choice in. Pull factors are, that kind of innovation stuff that I I talked about. So automation, innovation, being more competitive in general. And if we look at the the push factors, again, developing the answer to the first question, there's just a lot of push factors around at the moment.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

I touched on regulation and the, the governance environment. There is an awful lot of old systems, around which are being sunset or, frankly, are just no longer fit for purpose. Probably about two thirds of the total addressable market, one way or another, could be described as as legacy. So as long as there are those good push factors, and I'm in my thirtieth year, this year, and for that full thirty years, there always seem to be push factors one way or another, then that means that we'll see strong demand across all aspects of our target markets.

Thanks, Andy. Another question for you. How exposed are you to the health of the car finance market given the high interest rates?

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

It's a great question. And I'm going to assume that the the questionnaire is coming a little bit from the the recent headlines around commissions that were that were made in the The UK markets. Certain other markets actually have already been through that through that journey and come out the other side. I guess the first thing to talk about in answering that question is the fact that, cost of borrowing, which I I think is what we're meaning here by high interest rates, is not as much of a factor in asset finance as it is within plain vanilla finance. Asset finance, auto finance, one way or another, will take the future value of the vehicle of the asset into account, which means you're, you're essentially funding the gap.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And secondly, because the asset is very, very much at the center of things, nobody's, nobody's ignoring APR or equivalent, but, most people will go to a dealer thinking, I've got this amount to spend on a car. How much car can I have for my money? So cost of borrowing is less important in terms of influencing the headline rates. The other point to make is a lot of car finance, probably the majority of car finance, is supplied by the the manufacturers. And the manufacture manufacturers really, really need to do finance in order to sell cars.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

People don't tend to walk into dealerships, with enough money in their wallet to just drive out with the car. That funding then is being provided from the balance sheet of the manufacturer itself. So cost of funds is is at best an internal measure for them. And secondly, it's a thing that they just have to do, which is another thing that makes our end market very resilient. No asset finance.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

If you're in what we call vendor finance, then no asset sale is pretty much the mantra. From Alpha's perspective, yes, probably just slightly over half of our total revenue will come from automotive finance, but it's important to, break that down. Knocking on the door of about 40% of that is in The US, just over 15% is in EMEA, and then a fraction of that is in The UK. So we are doing business in The UK. Customers in The UK, along along with our other customers, are continuing to provide high demand for our software and services.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

But auto finance, we actually think as an end market, it is also a very resilient market.

Thank you. Are you able to scale into new markets? And if yes, which ones are you looking at and why?

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Yes. There are there are two kinds of of market that I guess we would we would be looking at. And let let's pick them off in turn. Countries, different countries and different competitive arenas from a geographical perspective. Asia Pac, North America, and Europe, EMEA tend to be the big markets.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Alpha is very applicable to all of those markets, and the vast majority of the work that we do is across EMEA North America. We are moving into other target geographical markets. We're we're we're doing that now. There are a number that we're looking at. Germany, for instance, is a really successful market for us within Europe, and there's a chance that that might become, in due course, what we would call a a target geographical market.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Why am I bothering to explain the fact that a particular country or a particular geography may or may not make the grade as a target alpha market is because we believe that strategic focus is super important. We can't be running off in every single direction at the same time. So it's super important for us to understand the geographies that we're targeting and to make sure that we do the best possible job in doing that rather than trying to, what my father would call boil the ocean, all the time that we're doing business. So that's geography. Great opportunity for Alpha because it's so good at doing international, business.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And then the other one's actually, Matthew touched upon, in the presentation. Functional target markets. We've talked about, expanding our serviceable addressable market through originations and fleets, which is sort of one of them is a different flavor of asset finance, handling large fleets of assets. The other one is moving what we do a little bit further down the value chain of finance so that we're covering the start point of our customers' customer's journey as well as the servicing part of it. So both of those are are great opportunities for us.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And the next one that we talk about is commercial finance, which is a little bit longer range for us. Matt described very eloquently that we're able to sort of shuffle our way into there at minimum risk for the the company because an awful lot of our existing customers do commercial finance. But the flip side of that, as that medium term opportunity is that we believe it is a multiple of the size of Alpha's existing target addressable market, which will give us excellent headroom in our medium to long term future.

Great. Thanks, Andy. So one for you, Matt. How easy is it for a customer to switch from Alpha to another system or vice versa?

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Thank you, Scott. And thank you as well from me to everybody who's joined us today joined us today and for the really good questions as well, of which this is one. So we describe Alpha as heart and lungs software. What we do is we manage the revenue generating products for highly complex, highly regulated organizations. This is line of business software and our customers are banks or finance companies or the finance arms of manufacturing companies, OEMs.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So we shouldn't be looking at this as back end or accounting software. It's not the likes of Sage or SAP or Workday. Although, of course, implementation of those systems is complex in its own right. And the result of that is that any implementation project in this space is necessarily a major business change program. So the simple answer is that it's resource intensive to implement Alpha Systems.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

But it's very, very time consuming, very, very expensive, and even more importantly, very, very risky to implement software that isn't Alpha Systems. I was talking about our delivery track record as one of our differentiators and perhaps our most important differentiator. Our projects succeed. And it would be very, very difficult therefore and very, very risky as well as resulting in less functional software if you were thinking about taking out Alpha Systems and implementing perhaps a competitor product instead or perhaps something internally written. And so the result of that is the is the customer retention that we have today.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And if if you have the slide deck from today available, you can download it from our website. If you don't, you can see an illustration of that on slide 31. Broadly speaking, people don't people don't leave Alpha Systems having implemented unless they're leaving our market.

Thanks, Matt. Very very much related to that is how scalable is Alpha's platform, and can you handle much bigger clients without heavy extra costs?

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

I'll attempt to be a bit briefer. There's loads of engagement. We could run out of time. The very simple answer is it's extremely scalable. And yes, we are able to scale without significant additional costs.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

The largest portfolios live on Alpha Systems have millions of asset finance contracts. The smallest have hundreds of asset finance contracts being administered, although they would tend to be the very, very high value portfolios. But to be to be a really important point on that in which we should be really clear on is there is one version of the software, everyone is running the same and that's important for that simplification agenda. And we can change the size of our single tenant SaaS cloud hosted environments with the push of a button through our automated cloud management platform. The scale it's a good question because the scalability of our systems is one of the key selling points for our customers.

Thanks, Matt. I'm not wanting to leave Duncan out, but so how much revenue is recurring versus one off project work? Duncan?

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Yeah. So Matt referred to the to the appendices of the slides. And again, if if people have got them available, it's slide 33 is how we try and answer this question. So, we in terms of the pure numbers, 72% of our revenue in the first half this year came from existing customers, with 28% from, new customers. I think, what we're trying to do with that is, also talk about that as revenue of a recurring nature.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So even when a customer goes live, you might think that might be the end of our relationship and that for instance delivery revenues may come to a stop. But for most customers, there's an ongoing relationship where we continue to get revenues going forward. So actual, even if you look to the definition of actual one off, which might be just a one off license receipt that we get, very, very, very small in our numbers. If you're talking about the split between, sort of existing and new business, then then as I said, 72% comes from existing came from existing clients and 28% from new clients in the first half.

And Duncan, do you earn extra fees for system upgrades, or is it included in that recurring contract?

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Yes. Matt just just referred now just to actually the fact that we've only got one system, and we have one system with a an upgrade that's released every four weeks without fail. Clients can customers can take that upgrade at at no cost. There is some normally, some support for that. So when they do take an upgrade, generally, we're helping with them.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So we get some delivery revenues for that. And they may just be taking an upgrade to sort of keep up with the latest version, but they may be taking an upgrade to take available some new functionality that we've released. Sometimes that new functionality is bundled into a module, and that new functionality in the module, they would have to pay for the module. So it's a it's sort of a mix. We do get extra fees, extra delivery fees for helping people do upgrades.

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Some of the functionality and upgrades they get for free. If it's a big piece of functionality in a mod sitting in a module, then there'd be an extra subscription cost for that.

Another question around sort of the subscriptions and fees. How much of growth in subscription revenue is from price increases versus new clients? Yeah. We we don't specifically disclose

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

this, but I think if you look at something like the NRR figures that we disclosed for the first time at these results, can see that the NRR is 112%. So that basically means we got 12% growth from the clients that we had twelve months ago. And that's obviously a subset of the business. I think we had 17% growth in subscription revenue in the first half. And broadly, I think you could say that about half just under half of that came from new customers and about half of that came from growth with existing customers.

Thanks, Duncan. Andy, I know recruitment and retention is an important part with Alpha. We've got a question saying, are staff retention and recruitment in tech a challenge, and how are you addressing it?

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

I might perhaps repurpose the question a little bit and and replace challenge with with important. Right now, in both of those areas, we're we're we're going really, really well. But we don't take our success in talent acquisition and retention for granted in in any way. So Matt talked about our 97% retention. Super, super important to us.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We celebrate retention. We certainly don't want retention to go down because it's the best recruitment that we do, keeping the incredible talent that we already have here. In terms of talent acquisition, again, we do really well at it, but noting that, in general, we are picking the best of the best in terms of talent. We want to make sure that we keep that high performance culture and alpha going. So, again, we don't take it for granted.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We bring in experienced hires. We bring in graduates, and we do that from diverse talent sources to make sure that we continue the culture and the sense of innovation that you get from diversity of background heritage and thought. And we're also expanding our talent pools. I can't say Gdansk anywhere near as well as Matt, but having opened up in Gdansk, having already set up an office in Lisbon, those two offices are as much as anything else about increasing our access to technical talent. So in all aspects of things, whether we're talking about innovation and product investment, investing in our talent and our company, we will always try to mend the roof while the sun shines.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Retention is good. Talent acquisition is going really well, and we can get the people in the door that we need to fuel our growth, but we won't take it for granted.

Thanks for that, Andy. I think that the additional question, I think you maybe covered it, but whether you want to add any element to it is how does your approach differ from other tech companies, with regards to the staff retention and, people?

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Yes. It's a it's a great and related question. I mean, both of those questions are driving things that are very much the well, genuinely, actually, the the the beating heart of alpha, our our culture. And and that's something that really does differentiate us. I think a lot of the things that, that we talk about, we're we're very much doing them.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

They're they're very much embedded in an organization. And whenever anybody asks you a question about what you do different, it it sort of opens the door a little bit to, saying mean things about other people. But what I I will say is that none of the stuff you hear or read about our culture is performative. It's very important to us, and it's what we are. To the extent that actually, with institutional investors, with new prospects, the

thing

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

that we're really keen to do is to get them out of a meeting room where they're getting a nice PowerPoint and, access to myself, Matt and Duncan, and our our revenue team and get them to come into the office where you can meet the, the alpha people and and understand how it really works and what's going on and and just the feel to this place. And I'm talking all aspects of our culture. I'm, I touched on inclusion and belonging, but social impact. Innovation isn't just high days and holidays. It it it's continuous communication, early and imperfect open communication and and community.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And in in my mind, you tell I'm passionate about it. It's really hard to separate those things. And then you layer on that high performance culture. I talked about the fact that quality and delivery, those are also culturally embedded. So we're walking the walk in all of these areas, and that makes Alpha, I think, very different.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

I'll use the phrase purpose driven organization, which is very often reserved for the not for profit sector. But but that's us. That's how we feel, and it makes us proud about what we do. And then that has a really great business outcome as well as making it a more pleasurable place to to work because it makes us more committed, more effective. And, yeah, it it just makes it a fun place to be.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So, hopefully, that gives a flavor of of why we're different. The three of us have to come to work as well. So we wanted to make it an enjoyable place, and we want to be proud of what we do.

Thanks, Andy. Well, I can can tell you, I've been to a few of your hackathons, and there's no doubt about it. They're slightly different from the the standard ones that are there. Next question is for Matt. How does AI impact on revenue, staffing levels and r and d development?

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Okay. And there's a few questions on AI as an opportunity and and also a little bit on AI as a threat coming up that I can see as well, Scott. So hopefully, keep keep me honest, but I'll attempt to answer them all in one, partly in the of time. But if you feel I've missed anything, then please feel free to come back to it. So we at Alpha, we love technology.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We love all aspects of technology and new and evolving technology, and we we love AI. Just to define our terms here, I'm talking about AI as a generic term for a number of really exciting technologies of which large language models are are a part, but and perhaps the most exciting part, the most fast moving parts at the moment, but by no means all. And we're really excited here at Alpha about both the reality and the possibilities of AI technology, and we have been for for a long time now. We don't see AI as an end in itself, except in so far, of course, as we need to show customers and perhaps investors and potential investors as well that we are ahead of the game with AI. But what we do see as an end in itself is developing fantastic new functionality to deliver more and more for existing customers and to sell to new customers of Alpha.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So that is an end in itself. We're ahead of that. We've been ahead of that for a while with, automated decisioning, machine learning, prediction. We're ahead of that with Ask Theia, which is our large language chatbot that I was talking about in the presentation there. We're also ahead of that in some more innovative areas.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We've got some really exciting proof of concepts for use of agentic AI with Alpha Systems. I'll perhaps come back to that a little bit later. And we stay ahead of it. Both both Andrew and actually you, Scott, you've talked about our commitment to innovation. And as you might expect, our innovation program is dominated by AI at the moment.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Innovation is really important to all of us. Alfie, you mentioned the hackathons. We have course in innovation days. We've got also, really importantly, a well established process for turning innovation into production reality. And that well established process includes very experienced and senior mentors for each initiative, and we have dedicated AI innovation mentors.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Improving operational efficiency, you talked about I think you talked in the question a little bit about the costs and how we can improve efficiency. So operational efficiency is another end in itself in which AI can help us see as a part of that. Tools for improving coding efficiency is a part of that and and all of that's in the innovation agenda as well. AI is also a sales opportunity because there is a risk presented to our customers, particularly perhaps in cybersecurity. And Alpha's cloud hosting is built for security and monitoring.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And perhaps we'll talk a bit about that later on this session as well if we have time. Just a little bit on AI as a threat. So perhaps people will be able to build software from nowhere using AI and overtake alpha. We don't see that as a as a clear and present danger at this time. AI is very good for writing code from scratch for very simple or well understood use cases, but it's got a long way to go at the moment before it can write or maintain complex code for use cases at the scale at alpha.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And to the extent that it it can help us in the future, we will start very far ahead. Actually, writing code is a relatively small part of the software development life cycle. Understanding what a customer wants to achieve, why making that happen, and then delivering it is a huge part of that as well, of course. Another way in which we see AI as an opportunity for us is that I talked a little bit about GentleKi earlier. To stay ahead of operation efficiency for our customers, there's a need to use the latest tools available in order to do that.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

You need software that provides an open AI for that line of business processing and that's Alpha Systems. So in order to get on that journey, implementation of modern software is extremely important. So, again, it provides an opportunity for us. Perhaps I've covered everything. Yeah.

That's good. Thank thank you, Matt. Very good covering of AI that's there. And and in the interest of time, I will move on. But, Andy, for for you, how do you ensure client data security when more customers are moving to cloud deployments?

Just if you need to, just unmute yourself, Andy, if you don't mind.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Well, somebody had to be that guy, didn't they, Scott? Sorry. It's always me. It's it's a a huge and important question. I'll try to answer it fairly quickly.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Where you see systems making headlines for cyber problems, one thing that that they have in common is they're very often multitenant systems. So there's no logical or physical separation between the compute and data environments across these these organizations. And that means contagion is gonna be a problem if there is a cyber threat. Within Alpha's cloud, from the get go, we figured, actually, you can have all of the advantages, the operational the economies of scale of multitenancy through some of the things actually Matt touched upon, like configurations code, like using automation techniques, and have single tenant environments. So you might ask what happens if there is some kind of hack on a customer environment.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We simply delete it, and we spin up a new one. They're not even properly connected to our environments. They can they can operate on their own even if we have an issue. And that's at the heart of, of our approach there. Single tenant SaaS is something that we think ultimately everybody will will come around to because it's the right answer for heart and lung systems as as Matt described.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

If you've seen our recent publicity, then you also might have seen Data Guardian, which is then talking about how we take that a level further, single tenant with dedicated compute power and resources. And then you've got a primary backup. You've then got a backup in another region. In case AWS goes down in in your region, you've then got a backup in a different cloud provider in case AWS just isn't there at all. We call that a triple shield.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

We're very, very aware of who we're serving and what they're concerned about. And we think we do something different there, and it's very much part of our sales proposition and our differentiation.

Thanks, Andy. Matt, how is adoption of Alpha six progressing amongst existing customers?

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So it's a it's a another really good question. It's very important to us that the move from Alpha Systems v five to Alpha Systems six is a very, very low friction upgrade. The move from v four to v five included re platforming and a brand new user interface. Although, really importantly, we maintained twenty years of function investment in the product that we'd accrued to that point in 2010. And actually, the conversion of our existing coset remains one of the reasons that we're ahead of the competition now.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

But the progression from Alpha Systems b five to b six is incremental. And for our customers, the process of taking an Alpha System six upgrade is the same as taking an upgrade within v five. And that's why we're really pleased that at the half year, we already had nine customers live on Alpha System six. But Alpha System six is really important to us in that it gave us an opportunity for a fantastic marketing event for the system as a whole to launch some really exciting new modules that can help us sell to new customers and also give us a platform for incremental sales to existing customers.

And, Matt, will Alpha System six reduce the implementation time compared to previous versions?

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Yeah. Okay. So simplification is a really key part of our strategy, and I talked about it a little bit in the presentation. We've got an absolutely huge opportunity to grow into, and that's the reason that simplifying the implementation of AlphaSystems, I said earlier that it was necessarily a major business change program, but both simpler and less risky than implementing competitor systems. Simplifying, however, is really important to us so that we can layer on more and more implementations of Alpha Systems software and layer on more subscription revenue.

Matthew White
Matthew White
COO at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And again, that's one of the reasons for the acceleration and wins that you can see on in the appendices to our presentation. Alpha Systems six though isn't specifically a part of that, although all product innovation has simplification of the implementation process as part of the considerations for that product innovation. The key things that simplify the implementation of the product are those that I talked about in the presentation. So our our AlphaStar accelerators and products, that automated testing and the system documentation including through AskThea, as well as migration tooling, really importantly, enabling customers to move new portfolios to AlphaSystems and to move their existing portfolios to AlphaSystems and AlphaCloud itself, which is one of the major advances in simplifying the implementation of Alpha Systems that we've seen since Alpha Systems v five was launched. Again, just to refer to that appendix, Slide 39, I think, a really good overview of the strategic change that we've achieved incrementally since the launch of Alpha Systems V5 in 2010.

Thanks, Matt. Duncan, is the dividend safe? And will it grow?

Duncan Magrath
Duncan Magrath
CFO & Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

In the interest of time and winning the shortest answer prize, yes and yes. On a slightly more expansive note, we have a relatively low ordinary dividend, which will grow. We pay out all the excess cash in special dividends that could go up and down depending on particular cash flows in that year. We'll just make sure that we maintain a minimum level of cash in the business. But yeah, as the business grows, we expect to grow the overall cash returns to shareholders. Thanks, Duncan.

Final question is for Andy. Share price has fallen over 9% in the last six months. Would be interested to know how the management team's thoughts on this. Do you think the business is fairly valued by the market at current levels?

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

It's it's fun timing for that question because the the the ticker I'm looking at, which is not real time, is saying that we nearly got that back today. Look, I live and breathe this business. We love this business. We rate it very highly. We're very confident in the business and its prospects.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

And it's almost impossible for me to think that it's fairly valued. So what's the answer to that? Well, I think we all here think that it's important not to run the business with constant reference to the share price. We need to make sure that the investment community is aware of our equity story and what is different about this business, which we work hard to do, particularly at times like this in the cycle. But ultimately, the thing for us is to understand the fundamentals of the business.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

In our mind, you get great financial fundamentals, good growth, great profitability, great cash conversion, as Duncan's outlined, all of those basics whilst also having an exceptional growth opportunity. So we keep focused on that. We keep focused on strategic execution. And the assumption is that the share price will catch up. But the most important thing I think you should hear from a leadership is that they're focused on the success of the business, not constantly looking at a ticker.

You, Andy. So that's all we've got time for at the moment with to questions. Andy, maybe if I could just hand back to you for any closing remarks.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

Yes. Thanks very much, Scott. Look, this has been great for us. We really appreciate the opportunity to talk to personal investors. It's not something that we get a chance to do all that often.

Andrew Denton
Andrew Denton
CEO & Executive Director at Alfa Financial Software Holdings

So your support is really important. We appreciate the level of engagement that we've had this afternoon. And as I said, you're taking some time out of your afternoon to listen to us. Hopefully, you'll continue to monitor the company maybe by a shower or two, and we'll see you hopefully next time we report.

Thank you to Andy, Duncan and Matthew for joining us today. That concludes the Alpha Financial Software Investor Presentation. Please take a moment to complete the short survey following this event. A record of this presentation will be made available on Engage Investor, and I hope you enjoyed the presentation today. Thank you.

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