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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Southside Bancshares EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $0.80Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ASouthside Bancshares Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$71.70 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASouthside Bancshares Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date1/29/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, January 29, 2026Conference Call Time2:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Southside Bancshares Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 29, 2026ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Management sold ~$82M of low-yield, long-duration municipals (recording a $7.3M one-time loss) and reinvested proceeds into primarily 5.5% agency MBS (avg yield 5.36%), shortening portfolio duration and targeting a payback under 3.5 years to enhance future net interest income. Positive Sentiment: Net interest income rose $1.5M linked quarter and tax-equivalent NIM expanded to 2.98%; management expects further margin improvement as funding costs decline and following the Feb 15, 2026 redemption of ~$93M subordinated debt (Q1 will include a one-time redemption charge). Neutral Sentiment: Fourth-quarter new loan production was ~$327M (about $215M funded) with payoffs of ~$164M, and the pipeline recovered to just over $2.0B (42% term, 58% construction/lines) with much of it early-stage and funding staggered over the next 6–9 quarters. Positive Sentiment: Credit metrics remain strong: non-performing assets were low at 0.45% of assets, allowance for loan losses was 0.94% of loans, and recent NPA increases were small and concentrated (including a $27.5M multifamily loan management expects will refinance soon). Positive Sentiment: Capital and liquidity are solid with all capital ratios well above “well-capitalized,” $2.78B of available liquidity lines, and continued opportunistic share repurchases (369,804 shares bought in Q4; ~762,000 shares remain authorized). AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallSouthside Bancshares Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Southside Bancshares Inc fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one again. I will now hand the call over to Lindsey Bailes, SVP, Investor Relations. Lindsey BailesSVP of Investor Relations at Southside Bancshares Inc00:00:33Thank you, Alexandria. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and in other disclosures and presentations, I'll remind you, forward-looking statements are subject to risk and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release in our Form 10-K. Joining me today are President and CEO Keith Donahoe and CFO Julie Shamburger. First, Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter, and then Julie will give an overview of our financial results. I will now turn the call over to Keith. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:01:18Thank you, Lindsey, and welcome to today's call. Early in the fourth quarter, market conditions allowed us to continue the partial restructuring of our available-for-sale securities by selling approximately $82 million of lower yielding, long-duration municipal securities with a combined taxable equivalent yield of 2.6% and generating a $7.3 million net loss. All sales were completed at the end of October, with net proceeds, together with additional portfolio cash flows and a $49.7 million sale of a T-bill, reinvested in various low-premium, primarily 5.5% coupon agency MBS, with an average yield of 5.36%. Similar to the third quarter security sales, we believe the fourth quarter sales enhances future net interest income while providing additional balance sheet flexibility as we grow. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:02:17We estimate the payback on the third quarter security sales to be less than 3.5 years. Overall, we experienced a $1.5 million linked quarter increase in net interest income, resulting primarily from lower funding cost and moderate loan growth. Our net interest margin expanded to 2.98%, and we expect additional net interest margin expansion resulting from the redemption of approximately $93 million of subordinated debt on February 15th, 2026. Fourth quarter new loan production totaled approximately $327 million, compared to third quarter production of approximately $500 million. Of the new loan production, $215 million funded during the quarter, with the unfunded portion of this quarter's production expected to fund over the next six to nine quarters. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:03:14Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, fourth quarter payoffs totaled approximately $164 million. While higher than the third quarter payoffs of $117 million, it was the second lowest quarter for payoffs during 2025. Third quarter CRE payoffs included 28 loans secured by industrial, retail, and multifamily, medical office, general office, and commercial land. Most of these were concentrated in five industrial properties and eight retail properties. Outside of CRE payoffs, we did exit a C&I participation during the quarter due to pricing well below our comfort zone. Our loan pipeline dipped to $1.5 billion mid-quarter, but rebounded after the first of the year to just over $2 billion today. The pipeline is well-balanced, with approximately 42% term loans and 58% construction or commercial lines of credit. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:04:17This mix is unchanged from the third quarter. C&I-related opportunities represent approximately 20% of today's total pipeline, and that's down slightly from third quarter's 22%. Credit quality remains strong. During the fourth quarter, non-performing assets increased $2.6 million, primarily related to a $2.4 million loan secured by a small residential condo project, but remain concentrated in the previously disclosed $27.5 million multifamily loan we moved into the non-performing category during the first quarter of 2025. Despite this loan not paying off in the fourth quarter, we remain optimistic that the borrower will finalize their refinance within the next two weeks. As a percentage of total assets, non-performing assets remain low at 0.45%. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:05:15When considering our net income, earnings per share, and other financial results, excluding the one time loss on the sale of securities, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow at a faster pace than the overall projected U.S. growth rate. With that, I'll turn the call over to Julie. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:05:39Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter and year-end call. For the fourth quarter, we were pleased to report net income of $21 million, an increase of $16.1 million at 327.2%. Diluted earnings per share were $0.70 for the fourth quarter, an increase of $0.54 per share linked quarter. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:06:04... We reported net income of $69.2 million for 2025, a decrease of $19.3 million, or 21.8% in diluted earnings per share of $2.29, compared to $2.91 for 2024. The decrease was driven by the restructuring of the AFS securities portfolio. As of December 31st, loans were $4.18 billion, a linked-quarter increase of $52.7 million, or 1.1%. The linked-quarter increase was driven by an increase of $29 million in construction loans, $24.1 million in commercial real estate loans, and $14.8 million in commercial loans, partially offset by decreases of $6.6 million in municipal loans and $5.7 million in one-to-four family residential loans. The average rate of loans funded during the fourth quarter was approximately 6.6%. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:07:10As of December 31st, our loans with oil and gas industry exposure were $71 million, or 1.5% of total loans, compared to $70.6 million, or 1.5% linked-quarter. Non-performing assets remained low at 0.45% of total assets as of year-end. Our allowance for credit losses decreased to $48.3 million for the linked-quarter from $48.5 million on September 30th. Linked-quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans decreased one basis point to 0.94% at December 31st. During the fourth quarter, we continued restructuring a portion of our AFS securities portfolio that included sales of approximately $82 million of lower yielding, longer duration municipal securities. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:08:09Purchases of $373 million, primarily mortgage-backed securities, occurred during the fourth quarter to replace securities sold during the restructuring of the AFS portfolio during the third and fourth quarters. The purchases more than offset sales, maturity and principal payments, resulting in an increase in the securities portfolio of $147.9 million, or 5.8% to $2.7 billion at December 31st, when compared to $2.56 billion on September 30th. The increase for the linked quarter brought the total securities portfolio to a level consistent with the first and second quarters of 2025. As of December 31st, we had a net unrealized loss in the AFS securities portfolio of $767,000, a decrease of $14.7 million compared to $15.4 million last quarter. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:09:14The improvement occurred primarily due to the restructuring of the AFS portfolio and an improvement in the remaining AFS portfolio. There were no transfers of AFS securities during the fourth quarter. On December 31st, the unrealized gain on the fair value hedges on municipal and mortgage-backed securities was approximately $788,000, compared to $905,000 linked quarter. This unrealized gain more than offset the unrealized losses in the AFS securities portfolio. As of December 31st, the duration of the total securities portfolio was 7.6 years, compared with 8.7 years at September 30th, and the duration of the AFS portfolio was 4.8 years, compared to 6.5 years on September 30th. At quarter end, our mix of loans and securities was 64% and 36%, respectively. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:10:18The slight shift compared to 65% and 35%, respectively, last quarter. Deposits decreased $96.4 million, or 1.4% on a linked-quarter basis, due to a decrease in brokered deposits of $233.5 million, partially offset by an increase of $40.8 million in retail deposits and an increase of $86.3 million in public fund deposits. On February 15th, we will redeem our $93 million of subordinated notes due in 2030. The rate on the notes adjusted during the fourth quarter to a floating rate of 7.51%. Our capital ratios remain strong, with all capital ratios well above the threshold for well-capitalized. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:11:10Liquidity resources remain solid, with $2.78 billion in liquidity lines available as of December 31st, and we purchased 369,804 shares of our common stock at an average price of $28.84 during the fourth quarter. There have been no purchases of our common stock since December 31st, and we have approximately 762,000 shares remaining authorized for repurchase. Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 2.98%, an increase of 4 basis points on a linked quarter basis, up from 2.94% at the end of the quarter. Our tax equivalent net interest spread for the same period was 2.31%, an increase of 5 basis points from 2.26%. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:12:03The increase in the net interest margin and net interest spread is primarily due to lower funding costs. For the three months ended December 31st, we had an increase in net interest income of $1.5 million, or 2.7% compared to the linked quarter. Non-interest income, excluding the net loss on the sale of AFS securities, increased $494,000, or 4% for the linked quarter, primarily due to an increase in deposit services, BOLI income, and brokerage services income, partially offset by a decrease in other non-interest income. Other non-interest income decreased primarily due to a decrease in swap fee income. Non-interest expense was $37.5 million for the fourth quarter, consistent with the last quarter, with a slight decrease of $57,000. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:13:00Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratio decreased to 52.28% as of December 31st, from 52.99% as of September 30th, primarily due to an increase in total revenue. We have budgeted a 7% increase in non-interest expense in 2026 over 2025 actual, primarily related to salary and employment benefits, software expense, professional fees, retirement expense, and a one-time charge of approximately $800,000 in connection with the redemption of the subordinated notes on February 15th. During 2025, we budgeted for several software initiatives that did not materialize, and we have allocated those into the 2026 budget. For the first quarter of 2026, we anticipate non-interest expense of approximately $39.5 million. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:14:00We recorded income tax expense of $3.8 million, compared to $189,000 in the prior quarter, an increase of $3.6 million, driven by the loss on sales of AFS securities in the third quarter. Our effective tax rate was 15.3% for the fourth quarter, an increase compared to 3.7% last quarter, and we are currently estimating an annual effective tax rate of 17.4% for 2026. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our comments, and we will open the line for your questions. Operator00:14:40We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. Please pick up your handset when asking a question. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Woody Lay with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:15:22Then, I believe you just called out exactly 7% expense growth is what you're budgeting in 2026. Was just hoping to get a little more detail and exactly how much of the incremental expense build is related to these software projects? And could you also talk about the hiring strategy and how that's built into the budget? Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:15:57Yeah, I'll hit it high level, and Julie can provide some details. So, I don't have the breakdown in front of me on the expense between software and FTEs. But what's really happening is on the software front, we are looking at moving our core to OutLink. And so we're currently hosted it on-premises, and we're gonna take it off-premises. In the long run, we anticipate that to create some efficiencies for us as we move into, you know, expanded growth mode and/or, you know, if we make an acquisition, it's gonna make that a more efficient prospect for us. So that's part of it. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:16:42We're also starting an initiative to build out a data platform, which we do believe will give us, over time, much more insight into the raw data that we have in multiple systems right now. So those are the two biggest components of the software spend. From an FTE standpoint, some of this is, we hope, will make us more efficient in the long run as well, because we are changing some of our processes within the loan origination group. We are kind of wearing everybody thin right now. We're pumping high volume of loan growth through a system that probably wasn't ready for it yet. So we are making some personnel changes and shifting people around, which means also adding some staff in certain situations. So that's a bulk of what we're doing. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:17:40Julie, if you've got any additional detail. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:17:43I was just gonna point out on the FTEs, since December of 2023, our FTEs have been down about 6%, actual number of FTEs. So, that speaks somewhat to Keith's comments, you know, about adding some staff. Also, as far as numbers in the software and data processing, we've got about $2.3 million-$2.4 million additional in the budget over 2025 spend. So I don't know if that answers your question, Woody, on the software and data processing, which is where combined how it's reported in the, in our, all of our filings in the 10-Q and 10-Ks and earnings. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:18:28Got it. That's, that's really helpful color. I appreciate that. Maybe a follow-up, you mentioned- Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:18:35Oh, Woody, one- Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:18:39Sorry, yeah, go ahead. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:18:41I was just gonna say that, you know, the $39.5 million that I've forecasted, if you will, for the first quarter, you know, doesn't reflect a full 7%, as, you know, these are not all day one increases. You know, we expect them to come in, you know, over the course of the year. So just wanted to add that color as well. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:19:05Yeah. Appreciate that. And maybe a follow-up, you mentioned, you know, the core switch might help with M&A down the road, and just wanted to get your thoughts on, you know, just given the deal activity we've seen recently in Texas, how y'all are thinking about M&A for Southside in this current environment? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:19:29Yeah. It's still part of the strategy. We are open to discussions. Again, as I've told a lot of folks, we're not going to acquire just to acquire. We're gonna be strategic, if it's filling out a geography for us, and/or picking up... You know, we've got, as an example, only a loan production office in Dallas. If we can find the right target in Dallas, that would be a good expansion for us, because it would help us fill out The Metroplex. Same thing in Houston, we've got effectively a loan production office. We are opening a new retail location in The Woodlands, which should be opening in the next 60 days. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:20:15But it's those target areas and even in Austin, with only two locations, if the right opportunity comes around, we are discussing those situations and are open to it. I hope that helps. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:20:30Yep, that definitely does. All right, that's all from me. Thanks for taking my question. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:20:35Thank you. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:20:36Thanks, Woody. Operator00:20:41Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:20:53Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe we can just start on the margin. Obviously, the balance sheet restructure or the securities restructuring was smaller this quarter than last, but you are gonna redeem the sub debt, as you mentioned. Just with those puts and takes and loan pricing competition, things like that, can you just give us some expectations on maybe what the first quarter margin could look like? Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:22Yeah, it is—it's gonna be positive, although it'll be muted. I think we'll see a bigger pickup as we move through the rest of the year. We do have a one-time charge coming in the first quarter for the redemption. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:37To that, okay. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:39But directionally, it's gonna be positive, and pick up towards the end of the year. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:47From the standpoint of the sub debt, you know, it repriced in the middle of the fourth quarter, and it's going to go away in the middle of the first quarter. So strictly with respect to the $93 million, it's gonna have about the same impact in the first quarter as it did in the fourth. But when those sources of funding are replaced in the second quarter, we'll certainly see, you know, we expect for sure to see some improvement just with respect to that one piece of funding, if that makes sense. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:22:23Okay. Yep. No, that's, thanks for the clarification, Julie, I appreciate it. And then maybe as we just think about loan growth, you know, appreciate the comments at the beginning of the call, just around, you know, some of the production and paydown activity. I know paydowns are really difficult to forecast, but just given some of the investments that you've made in people and opening up new locations over the past few years, should we think about a higher level of production? It seems like the environment's pretty conducive for loan growth here. Just wanted to get a sense for how we should, you know, kind of think about at least on the production side as we move through the year. Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:23:03Yeah, you know, from a production standpoint, I anticipate us to probably exceed 2025, but we do have a large number of payoffs that are in our forecast, some of which are these construction projects that have stayed on our books longer than what they normally would, as these projects are finished and stabilized, occupancy comes around. And so we've got a high number of those maturities happening this year, so we anticipate some of those moving out into the permanent market and/or sales. So those are some of the headwinds that we're still facing. I'm excited because I was a little concerned that the pipeline dropped to $1.5 billion in the middle of the fourth quarter. But we have rebounded strongly, and we're back up over $2 billion now. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:23:58Over half of that pipeline is in the very early stages, which means it hasn't run through our credit screening process, but they are starting to move through. But we do have a significant number in the closing process right now. So I would love to tell you I'm super optimistic that we may beat our numbers, but right now, it's too early in the year to make that call. But we are very active across all of the markets and I do anticipate it being a good year for us on the loan growth side. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:24:37I appreciate it, Keith. Maybe just one final one for me. You know, obviously the buyback stepped up a little bit this quarter. The restructuring was also a little bit smaller than the third quarter as well, but how should we think about kind of the pace of buybacks from here? You know, you guys will have decent capital accretion as we kind of move through the year. Stock is still, you know, relatively attractive on a tangible basis. Just wanted to get your thoughts, updated thoughts on the buyback. Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:25:08Yeah, I think from a strategic standpoint, we're gonna continue to be opportunistic with it. What may impact that is if there is an acquisition in the future. But at the same time, you know, those are probably when you look at capital strategy, those are. You know, first, we've got the sub-debt retirement is obviously the number one capital strategy. Close behind that is stock buyback and then M&A. So, you know, all of that's gonna work together, but and one of them may impact the other one, but we'll see how that goes this year. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:25:48All right. I'll step back. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:25:56Your next question comes from the line of Brett Rabatin with Hovde. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:26:07Hey, good morning, Keith and Julie. Wanted to start off on just the fee income outlook from here, and it seems like brokerages have some pretty good trends. Was just curious if there were any drivers you were specifically thinking about for 2026 in terms of fee revenues, and then just any thoughts on the outlook for 2026? Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:26:30Hi. Sure, Michael. Brett, sorry. I'll take that one. We are expecting an increase in a pretty nice increase in our fee income. We've put in our budget about $1.5 million for an increase. That's what we're budgeting. And a lot of it does comes most of that does come in the trust income, fees. We've, you know, I think we told you on the last couple of quarters that we have picked up, you know, some additional talent in that area, and we built up a really strong team that we're excited about and are even looking to to increase that team into the Fort Worth, North Texas area. Right now, it's pretty much... Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:27:18Well, it is completely in East Texas and Southeast Texas areas of our market areas, but we are looking to increase it in the North Texas area. So we have budgeted additional fees there, and we're looking for some additional increase in just treasury fees, but and as well in the brokerage services, because we have seen, you know, some nice pickup in those two areas over the last year, and that's where most of the increase is coming from. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:27:55Okay. That's helpful, Julie. And then wanted to just go back to the securities portfolio and just, you know, are all the actions that you guys have anticipated played out from here? Is there anything else that you might wanna do, or is basically anything from here would be more opportunistic relative to rates changing? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:28:19Yeah, for us, we're gonna continue to be opportunistic with it. Sitting here today, rates aren't in the right position for us to continue to make moves. If they do, and we're watching, it's a daily process for us. And so if we're seeing the right signs, we will make those moves, but right now we're in a holding pattern, if you will. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:28:44Okay. And then maybe lastly, just you've talked a little bit about it on, you know, hirings. You know, there's been quite a bit of M&A activity in Texas. Was just curious, Keith, any, you know, any thoughts on that disruption? If that's an opportunity for you, you know, maybe in the Dallas market, Fort Worth market, with either, you know, people or clients, is there anything that you're specifically targeting related to disruption? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:29:13Yeah. We're seeing opportunity both from a people side as well as customer side. We've been working on a couple of C&I opportunities in The Metroplex that, you know, are sort of being, you know, disrupted because of the acquisitions we're seeing. Obviously, the transaction that was announced yesterday in Houston, I think we could see some activity out of that, but it's too early to tell. But we have our antenna up and we are looking, and we'll be looking for both customer displacement as well as employee displacement. So yeah, we're active in that, and we'll continue to be so. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:29:57Okay. Great. Appreciate the color. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:30:02Thank you. Operator00:30:06Your next question comes from the line of Jordan Ghent with Stephens. Your line is now open. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:30:13Good- Operator00:30:13Please go ahead. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:30:16Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to ask a question on M&A, kind of going back to that. How do you guys think about that as far as the target asset size, and especially in relation to crossing $10 billion? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:30:32... Yeah, I mean, it still remains that we aren't gonna buy something in the $2 billion category. We would be below, you know, one, I mean, 1.5, roughly. But if there's an opportunity that can spring us over that in a significant way, we will look at that as well. But as you know, in the state of Texas, when you start getting into the $3 billion-$5 billion range, those are fewer. So there's more opportunities in the, in the lower than $2 billion market that... And we're, we're looking, and if we can get one done that gets us close, then that helps us get to the point that we can spring over 10, with a second transaction. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:31:16So we're, you know, it's a little bit of a, you know, a puzzle to put together, but we are looking at opportunities and continue down the same strategy that we've had in the last couple of years on that topic. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:31:33Okay, thank you. Then, maybe just one follow-up question for Julie on the operating expense for that Q2 2026 number. The 39.5, does that include that one-time charge, or is that excluding that one-time charge of $800,000? Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:31:48Yes, Jordan, it will include it. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:31:53Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you. Operator00:32:02There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Keith Donahoe, President and CEO, for closing remarks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:32:13Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Southside Bancshares and the opportunity to answer your questions. We're optimistic about 2026 and look forward to reporting first quarter results during our next earnings call in April. Thank you. Operator00:32:33This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJulie ShamburgerCFOKeith DonahoePresident and CEOLindsey BailesSVP of Investor RelationsAnalystsBrett RabatinAnalyst at HovdeJordan GhentAnalyst at StephensMichael RoseAnalyst at Raymond JamesWoody LayAnalyst at KBWPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Southside Bancshares Earnings HeadlinesSouthside Bancshares, Inc. (SBSI) Presents at KBW Summer Bank Conference - SlideshowAugust 7, 2026 | seekingalpha.comSouthside Bancshares raises quarterly dividend by $0.37/shareAugust 6, 2026 | msn.comThey didn't warn anyone in 1971. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Southside Bancshares Inc fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one again. I will now hand the call over to Lindsey Bailes, SVP, Investor Relations. Lindsey BailesSVP of Investor Relations at Southside Bancshares Inc00:00:33Thank you, Alexandria. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and in other disclosures and presentations, I'll remind you, forward-looking statements are subject to risk and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release in our Form 10-K. Joining me today are President and CEO Keith Donahoe and CFO Julie Shamburger. First, Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter, and then Julie will give an overview of our financial results. I will now turn the call over to Keith. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:01:18Thank you, Lindsey, and welcome to today's call. Early in the fourth quarter, market conditions allowed us to continue the partial restructuring of our available-for-sale securities by selling approximately $82 million of lower yielding, long-duration municipal securities with a combined taxable equivalent yield of 2.6% and generating a $7.3 million net loss. All sales were completed at the end of October, with net proceeds, together with additional portfolio cash flows and a $49.7 million sale of a T-bill, reinvested in various low-premium, primarily 5.5% coupon agency MBS, with an average yield of 5.36%. Similar to the third quarter security sales, we believe the fourth quarter sales enhances future net interest income while providing additional balance sheet flexibility as we grow. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:02:17We estimate the payback on the third quarter security sales to be less than 3.5 years. Overall, we experienced a $1.5 million linked quarter increase in net interest income, resulting primarily from lower funding cost and moderate loan growth. Our net interest margin expanded to 2.98%, and we expect additional net interest margin expansion resulting from the redemption of approximately $93 million of subordinated debt on February 15th, 2026. Fourth quarter new loan production totaled approximately $327 million, compared to third quarter production of approximately $500 million. Of the new loan production, $215 million funded during the quarter, with the unfunded portion of this quarter's production expected to fund over the next six to nine quarters. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:03:14Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, fourth quarter payoffs totaled approximately $164 million. While higher than the third quarter payoffs of $117 million, it was the second lowest quarter for payoffs during 2025. Third quarter CRE payoffs included 28 loans secured by industrial, retail, and multifamily, medical office, general office, and commercial land. Most of these were concentrated in five industrial properties and eight retail properties. Outside of CRE payoffs, we did exit a C&I participation during the quarter due to pricing well below our comfort zone. Our loan pipeline dipped to $1.5 billion mid-quarter, but rebounded after the first of the year to just over $2 billion today. The pipeline is well-balanced, with approximately 42% term loans and 58% construction or commercial lines of credit. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:04:17This mix is unchanged from the third quarter. C&I-related opportunities represent approximately 20% of today's total pipeline, and that's down slightly from third quarter's 22%. Credit quality remains strong. During the fourth quarter, non-performing assets increased $2.6 million, primarily related to a $2.4 million loan secured by a small residential condo project, but remain concentrated in the previously disclosed $27.5 million multifamily loan we moved into the non-performing category during the first quarter of 2025. Despite this loan not paying off in the fourth quarter, we remain optimistic that the borrower will finalize their refinance within the next two weeks. As a percentage of total assets, non-performing assets remain low at 0.45%. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:05:15When considering our net income, earnings per share, and other financial results, excluding the one time loss on the sale of securities, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow at a faster pace than the overall projected U.S. growth rate. With that, I'll turn the call over to Julie. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:05:39Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter and year-end call. For the fourth quarter, we were pleased to report net income of $21 million, an increase of $16.1 million at 327.2%. Diluted earnings per share were $0.70 for the fourth quarter, an increase of $0.54 per share linked quarter. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:06:04... We reported net income of $69.2 million for 2025, a decrease of $19.3 million, or 21.8% in diluted earnings per share of $2.29, compared to $2.91 for 2024. The decrease was driven by the restructuring of the AFS securities portfolio. As of December 31st, loans were $4.18 billion, a linked-quarter increase of $52.7 million, or 1.1%. The linked-quarter increase was driven by an increase of $29 million in construction loans, $24.1 million in commercial real estate loans, and $14.8 million in commercial loans, partially offset by decreases of $6.6 million in municipal loans and $5.7 million in one-to-four family residential loans. The average rate of loans funded during the fourth quarter was approximately 6.6%. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:07:10As of December 31st, our loans with oil and gas industry exposure were $71 million, or 1.5% of total loans, compared to $70.6 million, or 1.5% linked-quarter. Non-performing assets remained low at 0.45% of total assets as of year-end. Our allowance for credit losses decreased to $48.3 million for the linked-quarter from $48.5 million on September 30th. Linked-quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans decreased one basis point to 0.94% at December 31st. During the fourth quarter, we continued restructuring a portion of our AFS securities portfolio that included sales of approximately $82 million of lower yielding, longer duration municipal securities. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:08:09Purchases of $373 million, primarily mortgage-backed securities, occurred during the fourth quarter to replace securities sold during the restructuring of the AFS portfolio during the third and fourth quarters. The purchases more than offset sales, maturity and principal payments, resulting in an increase in the securities portfolio of $147.9 million, or 5.8% to $2.7 billion at December 31st, when compared to $2.56 billion on September 30th. The increase for the linked quarter brought the total securities portfolio to a level consistent with the first and second quarters of 2025. As of December 31st, we had a net unrealized loss in the AFS securities portfolio of $767,000, a decrease of $14.7 million compared to $15.4 million last quarter. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:09:14The improvement occurred primarily due to the restructuring of the AFS portfolio and an improvement in the remaining AFS portfolio. There were no transfers of AFS securities during the fourth quarter. On December 31st, the unrealized gain on the fair value hedges on municipal and mortgage-backed securities was approximately $788,000, compared to $905,000 linked quarter. This unrealized gain more than offset the unrealized losses in the AFS securities portfolio. As of December 31st, the duration of the total securities portfolio was 7.6 years, compared with 8.7 years at September 30th, and the duration of the AFS portfolio was 4.8 years, compared to 6.5 years on September 30th. At quarter end, our mix of loans and securities was 64% and 36%, respectively. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:10:18The slight shift compared to 65% and 35%, respectively, last quarter. Deposits decreased $96.4 million, or 1.4% on a linked-quarter basis, due to a decrease in brokered deposits of $233.5 million, partially offset by an increase of $40.8 million in retail deposits and an increase of $86.3 million in public fund deposits. On February 15th, we will redeem our $93 million of subordinated notes due in 2030. The rate on the notes adjusted during the fourth quarter to a floating rate of 7.51%. Our capital ratios remain strong, with all capital ratios well above the threshold for well-capitalized. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:11:10Liquidity resources remain solid, with $2.78 billion in liquidity lines available as of December 31st, and we purchased 369,804 shares of our common stock at an average price of $28.84 during the fourth quarter. There have been no purchases of our common stock since December 31st, and we have approximately 762,000 shares remaining authorized for repurchase. Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 2.98%, an increase of 4 basis points on a linked quarter basis, up from 2.94% at the end of the quarter. Our tax equivalent net interest spread for the same period was 2.31%, an increase of 5 basis points from 2.26%. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:12:03The increase in the net interest margin and net interest spread is primarily due to lower funding costs. For the three months ended December 31st, we had an increase in net interest income of $1.5 million, or 2.7% compared to the linked quarter. Non-interest income, excluding the net loss on the sale of AFS securities, increased $494,000, or 4% for the linked quarter, primarily due to an increase in deposit services, BOLI income, and brokerage services income, partially offset by a decrease in other non-interest income. Other non-interest income decreased primarily due to a decrease in swap fee income. Non-interest expense was $37.5 million for the fourth quarter, consistent with the last quarter, with a slight decrease of $57,000. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:13:00Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratio decreased to 52.28% as of December 31st, from 52.99% as of September 30th, primarily due to an increase in total revenue. We have budgeted a 7% increase in non-interest expense in 2026 over 2025 actual, primarily related to salary and employment benefits, software expense, professional fees, retirement expense, and a one-time charge of approximately $800,000 in connection with the redemption of the subordinated notes on February 15th. During 2025, we budgeted for several software initiatives that did not materialize, and we have allocated those into the 2026 budget. For the first quarter of 2026, we anticipate non-interest expense of approximately $39.5 million. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:14:00We recorded income tax expense of $3.8 million, compared to $189,000 in the prior quarter, an increase of $3.6 million, driven by the loss on sales of AFS securities in the third quarter. Our effective tax rate was 15.3% for the fourth quarter, an increase compared to 3.7% last quarter, and we are currently estimating an annual effective tax rate of 17.4% for 2026. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our comments, and we will open the line for your questions. Operator00:14:40We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. Please pick up your handset when asking a question. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Woody Lay with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:15:22Then, I believe you just called out exactly 7% expense growth is what you're budgeting in 2026. Was just hoping to get a little more detail and exactly how much of the incremental expense build is related to these software projects? And could you also talk about the hiring strategy and how that's built into the budget? Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:15:57Yeah, I'll hit it high level, and Julie can provide some details. So, I don't have the breakdown in front of me on the expense between software and FTEs. But what's really happening is on the software front, we are looking at moving our core to OutLink. And so we're currently hosted it on-premises, and we're gonna take it off-premises. In the long run, we anticipate that to create some efficiencies for us as we move into, you know, expanded growth mode and/or, you know, if we make an acquisition, it's gonna make that a more efficient prospect for us. So that's part of it. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:16:42We're also starting an initiative to build out a data platform, which we do believe will give us, over time, much more insight into the raw data that we have in multiple systems right now. So those are the two biggest components of the software spend. From an FTE standpoint, some of this is, we hope, will make us more efficient in the long run as well, because we are changing some of our processes within the loan origination group. We are kind of wearing everybody thin right now. We're pumping high volume of loan growth through a system that probably wasn't ready for it yet. So we are making some personnel changes and shifting people around, which means also adding some staff in certain situations. So that's a bulk of what we're doing. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:17:40Julie, if you've got any additional detail. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:17:43I was just gonna point out on the FTEs, since December of 2023, our FTEs have been down about 6%, actual number of FTEs. So, that speaks somewhat to Keith's comments, you know, about adding some staff. Also, as far as numbers in the software and data processing, we've got about $2.3 million-$2.4 million additional in the budget over 2025 spend. So I don't know if that answers your question, Woody, on the software and data processing, which is where combined how it's reported in the, in our, all of our filings in the 10-Q and 10-Ks and earnings. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:18:28Got it. That's, that's really helpful color. I appreciate that. Maybe a follow-up, you mentioned- Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:18:35Oh, Woody, one- Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:18:39Sorry, yeah, go ahead. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:18:41I was just gonna say that, you know, the $39.5 million that I've forecasted, if you will, for the first quarter, you know, doesn't reflect a full 7%, as, you know, these are not all day one increases. You know, we expect them to come in, you know, over the course of the year. So just wanted to add that color as well. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:19:05Yeah. Appreciate that. And maybe a follow-up, you mentioned, you know, the core switch might help with M&A down the road, and just wanted to get your thoughts on, you know, just given the deal activity we've seen recently in Texas, how y'all are thinking about M&A for Southside in this current environment? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:19:29Yeah. It's still part of the strategy. We are open to discussions. Again, as I've told a lot of folks, we're not going to acquire just to acquire. We're gonna be strategic, if it's filling out a geography for us, and/or picking up... You know, we've got, as an example, only a loan production office in Dallas. If we can find the right target in Dallas, that would be a good expansion for us, because it would help us fill out The Metroplex. Same thing in Houston, we've got effectively a loan production office. We are opening a new retail location in The Woodlands, which should be opening in the next 60 days. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:20:15But it's those target areas and even in Austin, with only two locations, if the right opportunity comes around, we are discussing those situations and are open to it. I hope that helps. Woody LayAnalyst at KBW00:20:30Yep, that definitely does. All right, that's all from me. Thanks for taking my question. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:20:35Thank you. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:20:36Thanks, Woody. Operator00:20:41Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:20:53Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe we can just start on the margin. Obviously, the balance sheet restructure or the securities restructuring was smaller this quarter than last, but you are gonna redeem the sub debt, as you mentioned. Just with those puts and takes and loan pricing competition, things like that, can you just give us some expectations on maybe what the first quarter margin could look like? Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:22Yeah, it is—it's gonna be positive, although it'll be muted. I think we'll see a bigger pickup as we move through the rest of the year. We do have a one-time charge coming in the first quarter for the redemption. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:37To that, okay. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:39But directionally, it's gonna be positive, and pick up towards the end of the year. Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:21:47From the standpoint of the sub debt, you know, it repriced in the middle of the fourth quarter, and it's going to go away in the middle of the first quarter. So strictly with respect to the $93 million, it's gonna have about the same impact in the first quarter as it did in the fourth. But when those sources of funding are replaced in the second quarter, we'll certainly see, you know, we expect for sure to see some improvement just with respect to that one piece of funding, if that makes sense. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:22:23Okay. Yep. No, that's, thanks for the clarification, Julie, I appreciate it. And then maybe as we just think about loan growth, you know, appreciate the comments at the beginning of the call, just around, you know, some of the production and paydown activity. I know paydowns are really difficult to forecast, but just given some of the investments that you've made in people and opening up new locations over the past few years, should we think about a higher level of production? It seems like the environment's pretty conducive for loan growth here. Just wanted to get a sense for how we should, you know, kind of think about at least on the production side as we move through the year. Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:23:03Yeah, you know, from a production standpoint, I anticipate us to probably exceed 2025, but we do have a large number of payoffs that are in our forecast, some of which are these construction projects that have stayed on our books longer than what they normally would, as these projects are finished and stabilized, occupancy comes around. And so we've got a high number of those maturities happening this year, so we anticipate some of those moving out into the permanent market and/or sales. So those are some of the headwinds that we're still facing. I'm excited because I was a little concerned that the pipeline dropped to $1.5 billion in the middle of the fourth quarter. But we have rebounded strongly, and we're back up over $2 billion now. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:23:58Over half of that pipeline is in the very early stages, which means it hasn't run through our credit screening process, but they are starting to move through. But we do have a significant number in the closing process right now. So I would love to tell you I'm super optimistic that we may beat our numbers, but right now, it's too early in the year to make that call. But we are very active across all of the markets and I do anticipate it being a good year for us on the loan growth side. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:24:37I appreciate it, Keith. Maybe just one final one for me. You know, obviously the buyback stepped up a little bit this quarter. The restructuring was also a little bit smaller than the third quarter as well, but how should we think about kind of the pace of buybacks from here? You know, you guys will have decent capital accretion as we kind of move through the year. Stock is still, you know, relatively attractive on a tangible basis. Just wanted to get your thoughts, updated thoughts on the buyback. Thanks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:25:08Yeah, I think from a strategic standpoint, we're gonna continue to be opportunistic with it. What may impact that is if there is an acquisition in the future. But at the same time, you know, those are probably when you look at capital strategy, those are. You know, first, we've got the sub-debt retirement is obviously the number one capital strategy. Close behind that is stock buyback and then M&A. So, you know, all of that's gonna work together, but and one of them may impact the other one, but we'll see how that goes this year. Michael RoseAnalyst at Raymond James00:25:48All right. I'll step back. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:25:56Your next question comes from the line of Brett Rabatin with Hovde. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:26:07Hey, good morning, Keith and Julie. Wanted to start off on just the fee income outlook from here, and it seems like brokerages have some pretty good trends. Was just curious if there were any drivers you were specifically thinking about for 2026 in terms of fee revenues, and then just any thoughts on the outlook for 2026? Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:26:30Hi. Sure, Michael. Brett, sorry. I'll take that one. We are expecting an increase in a pretty nice increase in our fee income. We've put in our budget about $1.5 million for an increase. That's what we're budgeting. And a lot of it does comes most of that does come in the trust income, fees. We've, you know, I think we told you on the last couple of quarters that we have picked up, you know, some additional talent in that area, and we built up a really strong team that we're excited about and are even looking to to increase that team into the Fort Worth, North Texas area. Right now, it's pretty much... Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:27:18Well, it is completely in East Texas and Southeast Texas areas of our market areas, but we are looking to increase it in the North Texas area. So we have budgeted additional fees there, and we're looking for some additional increase in just treasury fees, but and as well in the brokerage services, because we have seen, you know, some nice pickup in those two areas over the last year, and that's where most of the increase is coming from. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:27:55Okay. That's helpful, Julie. And then wanted to just go back to the securities portfolio and just, you know, are all the actions that you guys have anticipated played out from here? Is there anything else that you might wanna do, or is basically anything from here would be more opportunistic relative to rates changing? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:28:19Yeah, for us, we're gonna continue to be opportunistic with it. Sitting here today, rates aren't in the right position for us to continue to make moves. If they do, and we're watching, it's a daily process for us. And so if we're seeing the right signs, we will make those moves, but right now we're in a holding pattern, if you will. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:28:44Okay. And then maybe lastly, just you've talked a little bit about it on, you know, hirings. You know, there's been quite a bit of M&A activity in Texas. Was just curious, Keith, any, you know, any thoughts on that disruption? If that's an opportunity for you, you know, maybe in the Dallas market, Fort Worth market, with either, you know, people or clients, is there anything that you're specifically targeting related to disruption? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:29:13Yeah. We're seeing opportunity both from a people side as well as customer side. We've been working on a couple of C&I opportunities in The Metroplex that, you know, are sort of being, you know, disrupted because of the acquisitions we're seeing. Obviously, the transaction that was announced yesterday in Houston, I think we could see some activity out of that, but it's too early to tell. But we have our antenna up and we are looking, and we'll be looking for both customer displacement as well as employee displacement. So yeah, we're active in that, and we'll continue to be so. Brett RabatinAnalyst at Hovde00:29:57Okay. Great. Appreciate the color. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:30:02Thank you. Operator00:30:06Your next question comes from the line of Jordan Ghent with Stephens. Your line is now open. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:30:13Good- Operator00:30:13Please go ahead. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:30:16Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to ask a question on M&A, kind of going back to that. How do you guys think about that as far as the target asset size, and especially in relation to crossing $10 billion? Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:30:32... Yeah, I mean, it still remains that we aren't gonna buy something in the $2 billion category. We would be below, you know, one, I mean, 1.5, roughly. But if there's an opportunity that can spring us over that in a significant way, we will look at that as well. But as you know, in the state of Texas, when you start getting into the $3 billion-$5 billion range, those are fewer. So there's more opportunities in the, in the lower than $2 billion market that... And we're, we're looking, and if we can get one done that gets us close, then that helps us get to the point that we can spring over 10, with a second transaction. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:31:16So we're, you know, it's a little bit of a, you know, a puzzle to put together, but we are looking at opportunities and continue down the same strategy that we've had in the last couple of years on that topic. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:31:33Okay, thank you. Then, maybe just one follow-up question for Julie on the operating expense for that Q2 2026 number. The 39.5, does that include that one-time charge, or is that excluding that one-time charge of $800,000? Julie ShamburgerCFO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:31:48Yes, Jordan, it will include it. Jordan GhentAnalyst at Stephens00:31:53Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you. Operator00:32:02There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Keith Donahoe, President and CEO, for closing remarks. Keith DonahoePresident and CEO at Southside Bancshares Inc00:32:13Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Southside Bancshares and the opportunity to answer your questions. We're optimistic about 2026 and look forward to reporting first quarter results during our next earnings call in April. Thank you. Operator00:32:33This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJulie ShamburgerCFOKeith DonahoePresident and CEOLindsey BailesSVP of Investor RelationsAnalystsBrett RabatinAnalyst at HovdeJordan GhentAnalyst at StephensMichael RoseAnalyst at Raymond JamesWoody LayAnalyst at KBWPowered by