Under Armour Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Under Armour Q2 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Lance Allego, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations, Treasury and Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to Under Armour's Q2 fiscal 2025 earnings conference call. Today's event is being recorded for replay. Joining us on today's call are Under Armour President and CEO, Kevin Plank and CFO, Dave Bergman. Our remarks today will include certain forward looking statements that reflect Under Armour Management's current view of our business as of November 7, 2024. These statements may include projections for our business in the present and future quarters and fiscal years.

Speaker 1

Forward looking statements are not guarantees of future business performance and our actual benefits may differ materially from those expressed or implied in the views provided. Statements made are subject to risks and other uncertainties detailed in this morning's press release and documents filed regularly with the SEC, including our annual report on Form 10 ks and our quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Today's discussion may also include non GAAP references. Under Armour believes these measures give investors a helpful perspective on underlying business trends. When applicable, these measures are reconciled to the most comparable U.

Speaker 1

S. GAAP measures. Reconciliations along with other pertinent information can be found in this morning's press release and at about. Underarmour.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kevin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Lance, and to everyone for joining us on this morning's call. At the halfway point of fiscal 2025, we're pleased with another quarter of profitability ahead of our outlook. Thanks to gross margin improvement from actions we've taken to produce promotions and discounting in our DTC businesses and ongoing initiatives that improve product costing. Although we are early in our reset, I believe this demonstrates that our strategies strengthen this brand are beginning to gain traction. Our team is working incredibly hard and diligently to build a better business and I'm so proud of this collective effort.

Speaker 2

Though we still have much work to do, we are on offense and are committed to reconstituting the Under Armour brand deliberately and methodically. With a roughly $50,000,000 2nd quarter adjusted operating income beat compared to the outlook we provided in August, we are splitting the difference in allocating about half of those dollars to our revised adjusted operating income outlook for fiscal 2025. The other half will be invested in marketing and brand building efforts to deepen our connection with consumers. Q2 also marked another quarter of planning our flag as a sports house, meaning one of only a handful of athletic brands globally, can credibly outfit athletes head to toe on field, court or pitch in virtually any sport or athletic endeavor. We will defend and build on this position to exploit our global opportunity.

Speaker 2

And to be clear, Under Armour is more than just a single category or activity of athletic excellence and this breadth is what provides us with the Sports House status to build from. And what differentiates the UA Sports House from the other brands on the podium with us is our position as the brand for the little guy or little girl who has not had the size or resources to truly compete. Therefore, we're not innovating so that our athletes and teams can run up the score, but simply to give them that fighting chance to compete. This try hard persona and grit that defines UA has 4 key attributes, athletes, sports, innovation and passion. This is our constant muse and describes our affinity for the underdog.

Speaker 2

The athlete who puts in the work from pillow to podium, looking for every edge possible from their training, studying and especially from their gear. The ones who have no choice but to apply the rule of 10000 hours to achieve excellence in their sport. And we also are seeking a competitive edge from the best athletic performance apparel, footwear and accessories on the planet. These are our Under Armour athletes. Because of this, we must use every resource in waking hour to help them improve.

Speaker 2

This mindset drives our product storytelling and commercial strategies, ultimately expressed by the perfectly balanced UA logo, where the top is the same as the bottom, the left is the same as the right. And an ambition or at the least the metaphor for the gear that we make. Performance apparel and footwear meant to prevent you from getting too hot or too cold, targeting equilibrium in every wearing occasion. The symbol of our athletes' underdog spirit was something to prove. Being clear about who we are and where we're going front and center in all interactions, including those with retailers, athletes and teammates.

Speaker 2

A direction that is being received well as we've taken this narrative to our partners and we will build on from here. As a podium brand with a foundation of performance products forged at the highest levels of athletic competition, we work tirelessly to deliver head to toe outfitting with style, fit, form and function across the high school, club and professional levels. UA must give athletes an edge to perform, feel and look their best. We will honor our nearly 30 year history with that hard earned place on the podium by elevating our products, amplifying our stories, delivering best in class service and empowering our team to drive consistent execution. As we have said previously, this chapter is not a repeat of the first time building the brand.

Speaker 2

There will certainly be parts that rhyme. We plan to utilize every tactic, relationship, strategy or ethos that serve this brand in the past to our benefit. 1 of those is certainly product, story, service and team. Four powerful dimensions that when working in concert can drive this brand to greater heights. This is what we have brought to life, what we are evangelizing internally and externally and what we are executing against.

Speaker 2

The elevation of our product offering continues to gain momentum. This includes a critical mass of new products designed and developed by our expert product team with an immediate focus on our men's apparel business and footwear as well as a significant evolution in style and innovation offerings as we work toward fallwinter 2025. Based on previews and the initial selling cycle, we've received strong feedback, showcasing products with brand new innovations, refreshed design direction and a holistic approach to outfitting our core revenue categories, training, running, basketball, sportswear and golf. In the meantime, we've refocused and relaunched basics like base layer compression, where we have market leadership, which gives us the ability to change our trajectory. This includes recent success in premium distribution with Heat Gear, franchises like Unstoppable, particularly fleece, as well as our Vantage training collection and an increasing but targeted selection of UA sportswear.

Speaker 2

In addition to what we call Trojan horse products, recently articulated accessories with the self form uncrushable hat, where we showcase what Under Armour's take on a category of seemingly ordinary as a ball cap that traditionally has been only the logo on the front that differentiates it from other brands and apply the performance lens of stretch, recovery and moisture management, which also allow us to charge a premium of $45 to a category that typically sells for less than $25 This is a type of consistent innovation and premiumization you should now expect from UA with the purpose of making a consumer wonder. They put this much performance thinking into a hat, I wonder what their shirts and shoes are like. In footwear, we're making some of the greatest strides with our enhanced product team having an impact. There's much work to do as we're experiencing challenging results in the near term, particularly in our good level products. While it will be a couple of seasons until it hits the market, we've taken a different tact here with good level, refining and eliminating redundant SKUs, assigning our best footwear designers to work on some of our lower ASP products, but that have big volumes like the UA Assert, whose volume is in the millions of payers with updated designs that focus on the price to value perception and winning consumers to the brand with just simply better looking and performing products at great value.

Speaker 2

Just because the shoe costs less than $100 does not mean that it does not deserve to be beautiful. And I'm excited about our strategies for improved assortment across our better and best segmentation over the next few seasons as more elevated products like our Infinite Running collection have been tracking well for us. While our footwear business continues to reset, our objective is to emerge with a more substantial better and best level offering and a streamlined improved good level offering. All in all, more precise, well defined segmentation within our franchises to deliver for all tiers of distribution that will serve us in the ambition of premiumizing the UA brand. It's really about selling so much more of so much less.

Speaker 2

Critical to our evolution is our team sports positioning, the sharp point and epicenter of our connection with young athletes. With school back in session, we saw a solid performance from cleated products in baseball and American football, as well as in basketball with Curry brand footwear. Building on that a few weeks ago, the Curry 12 launched globally following limited releases of select colorways including the red, white and blue version Stephen wore during his iconic performance in the Paris Olympics, which helped secure gold for Team USA. The response to the Curry 12 has been solid. So we're off to a good start ahead of our next launch, which will see the first ever signature shoe for rising NBA star De'Aaron Fox under the Curry brand.

Speaker 2

Next up is story and continuing with Stefan as an excellent example. In September, we conducted our first tour in China with him since 2019. The response to Stefan and market was frankly overwhelming and demonstrated the power of the Under Armour brand when we holistically integrate compelling athlete moments with elevated products and storytelling. Despite our 4 city tour turning into a 3 city tour because the second stop in Xi'an had to be canceled due to a Taylor Swift like reaction with for just one example, from Xi'an, 7,000 people waiting outside of his hotel to greet him. We unfortunately had to cancel that visit, but successfully pulled off our most impactful tour ever.

Speaker 2

With historically high brand exposure, including over 4,000,000,000 media impressions, nearly 34,000,000 live stream views and incredible social buzz and engagement, overall asphalt sales impacted in China that week along with a threefold increase in Curry sales. One thing that is certain is that the opportunity we have with Stefan to build on his celebrity for the benefit of Curry brand, UA Basketball and Under Armour as a whole. We plan to be much more aggressive with Stefan's global presence as we scale our business the upcoming years. Taking this learning and replicating it more frequently at multiple touch points is the goal, holistic and synergistic moments to reach young team sport athletes more effectively. As a sports house with an ability to outfit the world's most incredible athletes at the highest level of competition, including Major League Baseball's World Series and Los Angeles' Freddie Freeman driving in 12 runs and 4 homers to become the MVP as the Dodgers won their 8th title.

Speaker 2

American Football NFL standouts, Justin Jefferson, Zay Flowers and Kyle Hamilton headline the UA roster in the sport our brand was founded in. And with that, we have Notre Dame sitting squarely in the College Football Playoffs Top 10. Also, elite runner Sharon Locady with her top 10 finish at last weekend's New York City marathon wearing the unreleased Velocity Elite 3, most technologically advanced running shoe we've ever made truly. And our mark on the world's most elite football stage with players like Ben White at Arsenal, Pedro Porro at Tottenham and Tony Roediger at Real Madrid. We have an incredibly talented global athlete roster that demonstrates our breadth and why we are SportsHouse, engaging young athletes more effectively while telling their compelling stories.

Speaker 2

As a work in progress, activations will look and feel more aligned over the next several months underscored by our brand identity and ethos. Next, shifting to service and an update on elevating our consumer experience. In these efforts, our initial strategies have primarily focused on DTC and evolving our e commerce channel into a more premium manifestation of the Under Armour brand. The Q2 has continued to give us confidence in what is possible. One of the most visible aspects of our work has been the impact of our significant reduction in promotional activities, particularly on our e commerce business in North America.

Speaker 2

It is still early, but this, along with our work to reduce SKUs, creates a more deliberate and premium product assortment, better curated looks and outfitting presentations for a cleaner, faster consumer experience. So despite expected declines in traffic and revenue, the quality of our business has improved, creating a better foundation from which to grow in the future. With lower promotions and markdowns, our full price sales rose again in the Q2, representing now about 50% of e commerce revenue versus about just 30% just a year ago. Further, our average order value and average unit retail metrics increased by double digits for the Q2 in a row, a promising trend that gives us confidence in our ability to move our e commerce business to a more premium position with a higher quality of revenue and better profitability over the long term as a flagship representation of the brand. In North American DTC, currently our largest business is our factory house outlet stores, where we're shifting from a full store discounting approach to a targeted strategy, which excludes certain programs that will remain full price regardless of broader promotions.

Speaker 2

The goal here is driving higher profitability, store productivity and improved brand affinity. This is one area we see significant upside margin potential over the long run as our brand and therefore our business becomes stronger. With more than 1400 full price brand house locations globally, We're working to create an elevated experience for our athletes with a cleaner, better curated product assortment and presentation. The culmination of this work will show up in our new 24,000 square foot flagship store set to open on November 21st at our new global headquarters at the Baltimore Peninsula. As our most premium full price expression, this store dynamic brand inspiration and an evolved two way conversation with dynamic brand inspiration and an evolved two way conversation with our consumers, we're excited about the opportunities to harvest learnings from this store and roll them out to the rest of our fleet over time.

Speaker 2

Turning to our loyalty program, continues to be a significant unlock for driving repeat business and attracting new consumers. In October, we celebrated the 1st anniversary of our U. S.-based UA Rewards program and are pleased with this performance. Early in the Q2, we initiated an account upgrade that welcomed another 6,000,000 existing ua.com members into the program, taking our total to nearly 13,000,000 members. Fiscal year to date, active members accounts for roughly half of U.

Speaker 2

S. DTC revenue. Members also have nearly doubled the 90 day repurchase rate compared to non members generating approximately 50% higher revenue per consumer. Across all programs in the U. S.

Speaker 2

And APAC, we now have more than 28,000,000 members and growing. I'm confident that loyalty will help us gain valuable insights to inform our business and enhance consumer engagement, driving even more benefits in the long term. Within our wholesale business, we're managing through this reset period while focusing on our relationships with strategic retailers across distribution tiers. This includes working with UA partners, delivering elevated products with compelling storytelling and driving toward a more premium representation of our brand in all doors where athletes shop for our products. Our strategic retail partners are family and we have significantly revamped our frequency, touch points and communication.

Speaker 2

1st and foremost, letting them know that they are strategic partners. As one of the most foundational elements of a sales relationship and we have not been doing this well. This means a two way conversation and openness to incorporating their constructive feedback as we evolve our strategies to unlock UA's full potential as we know that it will take time to build back shelf space. Still, we believe we will gain traction with our cadence of new product launches and improved marketing activations over the next several quarters. Finally, none of our strategies will succeed without the hard work of an energized and inspired team with momentum is absolutely building here.

Speaker 2

Ensuring we have the right people focusing on the right parts of our business is crucial to empowering our efforts and this is a work in process, being clear with every teammate so that they know exactly what we expect of them each and every day. Teams knowing what they're supposed to do when they show up while incorporating continuous improvement And they're knowing exactly what that definition of success is. In this respect, I feel confident about our evolution, team and the opportunity in the market we see for Under Armour's unique underdog brand positioning. One of my focal points of leadership in the 1st 7 months has been empowering our product, marketing and commercial teams, ensuring the coordination and absolute teamwork of these three aspects of our sports house. It's essential to our success and it leads in every management discussion that we have today.

Speaker 2

The entire organization is in support of this aspect of Under Armour leading for the brand. Firing on all cylinders, Yassine Siedy leads an experienced team of experts to elevate our products, innovation, design language. And with only 2 months on the job, the new perspectives Eric Littky brings to our work, especially through marketing, but also evolving our strategy, approach to category management and go to market process. We are driving tangible brand right changes to improve our positioning in the market. With clear alignment of who we are, what we stand for and in preparation to launch the most significant marketing effort in our history in 2025.

Speaker 2

Our team is on the court with a playbook capable of stabilizing and driving this brand to growth over the long term. With the focus of being an incredibly loud brand and quiet company. Our organization is more aligned and focused than in past years and we're ensuring that time and resources are effectively prioritized to strengthen our brand. At the center of this though is trust, which I believe is something that is built in drops and lost in buckets. For us, this means a cultural focus on positive relationships, well informed decision making and consistency.

Speaker 2

I believe our energy, collaboration and unity as a team will take an even more significant step next week as we begin moving into our new headquarters. So this work to reconstitute our brand coincides with reconstituting our culture. And that's at the heart of it. We're not just building a company, we're building a brand. Companies can become famous because they make one thing defining for their business.

Speaker 2

While brands are famous because we've proven that we can do that over and over again. Our job is to relentlessly fulfill our promise to inspire and surprise athletes for performance and design solutions they never knew they needed yet once they try them could not imagine living without. Share this messaging and what this direction means for Under Armour, we're going to host an investor meeting on December 12 in New York City. At this meeting, we'll detail our strategies to strengthen UA's premium marketplace and underdog positioning and our ability to deliver improved long term value creation for shareholders. So now in closing, our reset to drive greater affinity with athletes while delivering sustainable, consistent long term growth is a journey that requires patience.

Speaker 2

We are progressing on critical aspects of our strategies, gaining early traction and confidence in our ability to run a better, more agile and disciplined business. Agility and being responsive to the market are critical as set forth in our new 9 month speed to market capability to complement our historical 18 month go to market. This product pipeline looks truly differentiated and excellent and we are positioning ourselves to more effectively deploy our marketing dollars to connect with consumers even more deeply. We have a leadership and a team that is united and aligned on the critical dimensions of our business to unleash the full potential of the Under Armour brand. Underscoring all of this, our culture, it's re energizing and it's focused with steadfast results as we strengthen this sports house both one day and athlete at a time with both the passion and care that Under Armour deserves.

Speaker 3

And with that, I'll hand it over to Dave for more details on our results and outlook. Thanks, Kevin. Digging right into our Q2 fiscal 2025 results, we outperformed the profitability outlook we provided in August. However, in line with our expectations, revenue was down 11% to $1,400,000,000 with a 13% decline in North America due to softer full price wholesale demand and lower sales to the off price channel. Our North American DTC business was also down during the quarter driven by a continued decline in our e commerce business resulting from proactive strategies to reduce promotional activity and we also experienced lower retail store sales.

Speaker 3

EMEA revenue was down 1% on a reported and currency neutral basis, driven by a decline in our wholesale business, partially offset by strength in DTC. Revenue in APAC was down 11% or down 10% on a currency neutral basis, due to declines in our wholesale and DTC businesses amid a soft macro environment that continues to impact consumer traffic. In Latin America, revenue was down 13% or down 4% on a currency neutral basis. Growth in DTC partially offset the decline in our wholesale and distributor businesses. From a channel perspective, our wholesale revenue was down 12% in the 2nd quarter, driven by softer demand in our full price and distributor businesses and lower sales to the off price channel.

Speaker 3

Direct consumer revenue declined 8% with a 21% decrease in e commerce as we expected given strategies to drive a more premium online presence through reduced promotions and discounts. Sales from our owned and operated retail stores were flat in the quarter. Licensing was down 13%, primarily due to a decline in our North American business. By product type, apparel revenue was down 12% with declines across most categories in the quarter, while we had good performance in outdoor. Footwear was down 11% with declines in most categories.

Speaker 3

However, relative strength in golf and team sports, particularly cleated products, partially offset the decline. And our accessories business was up 2% in the quarter. Our 2nd quarter gross margin increased by 200 basis points to 49.8%. This increase compared to the prior year was driven by 120 basis points of supply chain benefits due mainly to lower product costs, 50 basis points from a favorable channel mix driven principally by a reduction in off price sales and 40 basis points of pricing benefits due to lower discounting and promotions mainly in our direct to consumer business as we work to drive a more premium position for our brand. And lastly, we also had lower markdowns in the wholesale channel.

Speaker 3

These benefits were partially offset by 10 basis points of headwinds from unfavorable foreign currency impacts and regional mix. The significant gross margin outperformance in the quarter relative to the outlook we provided in August was due to 3 main factors. 1st, we saw increased supply chain benefits from additional product cost savings compared to our plan, along with lower than expected freight costs. 2nd, wholesale markdowns and allowances were less than initially anticipated. And 3rd, our channel mix was more favorable due to lower than planned sales to the off price channel.

Speaker 3

Next, SG and A expenses were down 15% to $520,000,000 in the 2nd quarter. As mentioned on our last call, our 2nd quarter benefited from a shift in the timing of marketing expenses, in this case about 15,000,000 dollars which is in our Q3 outlook. Excluding roughly $13,000,000 in benefits from a litigation related insurance recovery and approximately $3,000,000 in net transformation expenses related to our fiscal 2025 restructuring plan, 2nd quarter adjusted SG and A expenses were down 13% to $530,000,000 This decrease was primarily driven by lower marketing expenses as some of our brand investments are concentrated in the second half of the year. As anticipated, we also recognized a $27,000,000 SG and A benefit due to an insurance recovery for legal fees incurred in previous years. Lastly, ongoing cost management actions including headcount reductions also influenced the decrease.

Speaker 3

Moving down the P and L, we recognized $3,000,000 in restructuring charges, which together with the $3,000,000 in transformation expenses booked in SG and A resulted in $6,000,000 in restructuring charges and related expenses for the quarter. Through the first half of the year, we have recognized $40,000,000 in charges and expenses under our fiscal 2025 restructuring plan, of which roughly $36,000,000 were cash related and $4,000,000 were non cash expenses. In September, we announced an expansion of our restructuring plan with additional initiatives to optimize our logistics and transportation network and overall business performance. This expansion included approximately $70,000,000 in new opportunities, primarily related to the exit of 1 of our distribution facilities in Rialto, California. This change will allow us to utilize capacity better and gain efficiencies in our remaining facilities as we invest in automation over the next several years.

Speaker 3

These efforts are expected to be completed by the end of fiscal 2026. Incorporating this decision, we now expect between $140,000,000 $160,000,000 in total restructuring charges and expenses, of which roughly 2 thirds will be realized in fiscal 2025 and the remainder in fiscal 2020 6. Given the time required to wind down and close the Rialto distribution facility, this expansion to the plan is not expected to result in additional restructuring related savings in fiscal 2025, above and beyond the approximate $40,000,000 annual savings previously disclosed. Finally, moving to profitability. Our 2nd quarter operating income was 173,000,000 dollars Excluding the litigation related insurance recovery, transformation expenses and restructuring charges, our adjusted operating income was 166,000,000 Taking this to the bottom line, we realized diluted earnings per share of $0.39 while adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.30 in the quarter.

Speaker 3

The profitability overdrive versus our 2nd quarter outlook was mainly due to our gross margin outperformance with additional benefits from better SG and A expense control and shifting some marketing spending into the back half of the year. From a balance sheet perspective, our inventory was down 3% compared to last year, which aligned with our plan. We continue to expect our fiscal year end inventory to be roughly flat compared to our fiscal 2024 ending balance. Our cash position was $531,000,000 which is after the payment of our legal settlement during the Q2. And we had no borrowings under our $1,100,000,000 revolving credit facility.

Speaker 3

Next, let's turn to our fiscal 2025 outlook. Our expectation that full year revenue will decline at a low double digit rate has not changed. We also reiterate our outlook for a 14% to 16% revenue decline in North America, flat revenue in EMEA and a high single digit decrease in APAC. Given our outperformance in the Q2, we have increased our outlook for gross margin and now expect an improvement of 125 basis points to 150 basis points for the full year, which is better than our prior outlook improvement range of 75 basis points to 100 basis points. This anticipated increase in our gross margin is driven by reduced promotional and discounting activities in our DTC business, which continue to benefit our average selling price, along with the actions to improve product costs.

Speaker 3

This implies that second half gross margin is expected to expand at a lower rate than in the first half, which is driven by tougher comparisons with the prior year as well as the impact of some inventory cleanup actions later in the year as we prepare the market for product introductions in the fallwinter 2025 season. Concerning SG and A, excluding the litigation settlement expense and related insurance recoveries and the midpoint of estimated transformation expenses related to our restructuring plan, adjusted SG and A is expected to decline at a low to mid single digit rate, which is unchanged relative to our prior outlook, despite larger than anticipated declines over the 1st two quarters of the year. This also incorporates our recent decision to reinvest some of our first half gross margin upside into brand building investments ahead of upcoming pivotal seasons and the timing shift of marketing into the second half. As a result, roughly half of our second quarter adjusted operating income outperformance will be invested in incremental marketing later this year, while the remaining half is reflected in the increase in our adjusted operating income outlook, which we have raised by $25,000,000 versus our prior call.

Speaker 3

Therefore, we anticipate that adjusted operating income will reach 165 to $185,000,000 for the year. Incorporating all this into the bottom line, we expect adjusted diluted earnings per share to be $0.24 to $0.27 up about $0.05 at the midpoint from our prior outlook. Next, I'd like to provide context for our Q3 of fiscal 2025, where we expect revenue to be down approximately 10%, which assumes continued pressure in North America and ongoing proactive strategies to reduce promotional activities in our DTC businesses. This points to Q4 revenue being more pressured than Q3, which is primarily related to some timing differences in Q3, Q4 flow this year versus last year within our North America and APAC wholesale businesses, along with a more difficult prior year Q4 comp in our North America factory house business and some developing FX headwinds driven by the recent strengthening of the U. S.

Speaker 3

Dollar. 3rd quarter gross margin is expected to be up 150 basis points to 175 basis points due to supply chain benefits resulting from lower product costs, favorable FX and pricing benefits related to reduced discounting and promotions in our direct to consumer business. As mentioned earlier, a significant shift in the timing of marketing investments will cause our adjusted SG and A expenses to increase in the second half compared to last year, particularly in the Q3 when expenses should be up at a mid single digit percentage rate. This brings us to an expected Q3 adjusted operating income of $20,000,000 to 30,000,000 dollars and $0.02 to $0.04 of adjusted diluted earnings per share. In closing out today's prepared remarks, our work to reconstitute the Under Armour brand continues to gain traction after another quarter of outperformance.

Speaker 3

Our teams are executing our strategies, focusing on the dimensions of our business that will make a difference in our brand strength and premium positioning. But we still have much work to do, we're encouraged by our early progress in this journey. And we're confident that with our strengthened leadership team, improved execution, clear alignment and prioritization and renewed energy as an organization, we will continue to build momentum toward long term sustainable and profitable growth. With that, we'll open it up for questions. Operator?

Operator

Our first question will come from Simeon Siegel with BMO Capital Markets. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Hey, everyone. Good morning. Congrats on the ongoing progress. Really great to see you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Kevin, I know it's only been a few months. Anything further you'd share on what Eric's bringing to the team so far? And then Kevin or Dave, just congrats on the gross margin improvement. I mean, that's been great and obviously a nice validation of your strategy. How are you thinking about future gross margin opportunity?

Speaker 4

And then maybe putting that in context of that back half guide, you gave the 3Q after the healthier profits, it does look like the total outlook. I think the total profit looks to be very light in the back half of the year. So any further context you could give on that, if it's anything beyond timing?

Speaker 3

Thank you. Yes, I'll take the first

Speaker 2

and let Dave pile on gross margin. But yes, it's pleasant to see. And I think one of the indicators when we had so many things going in a couple of different directions, a good way to judge how we're doing with the business and the progress in the reset. But Eric has been terrific. Number 1, he's experienced global executive.

Speaker 2

He's been a great addition to the team and really fit in. He's someone that coming from the industry, he not only speaks our language, he speaks our dialect. So the learning curve has been very small. And also you deal with a good confident executive. It's great to see.

Speaker 2

And so I think that's been really seamless. And coming into mandate for Eric was really in 3 parts. His title was brand strategy. And first of all, within that was the strategy and for us to coordinate the strategic business plan for the organization and just lock us up between brand, financial, commercial objectives because while we've had these things in place, I think refined lens on them has been important. The second thing I asked Eric to help with is really the operating model, which is again, I'll use the word refining our category management structure and enhancing our go to market where we can just be more coordinated and whether that's just here in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Across channels, be it wholesale or retail or what we're doing in our factory house or online, as well as what we're doing in other regions and coordinating. So we feel like 1 large brand versus a lot of small pieces. And so there'll be more to come on that. And then in marketing, it's one thing about this business where really the primary focus was Eric to help us in the marketing component.

Speaker 2

We've got a $500,000,000 plus budget for marketing, but it sure doesn't feel that way. And so that's priority number 1. I mentioned in my prepared remarks, our ambition or our plan is to build a and to bring on a major campaign that we'll have in 2025. And that's just looking and saying, it's not that we don't have enough money, we just don't like how we've been spending it. And so us really getting surgical in the way that we're looking at that is important.

Speaker 2

And all this to contextualize this underdog persona as we head towards with sort of circling fall winter 2025. And this isn't a wait and see and this isn't there's going to be some line that we cross in fall winter 2025. There's several proofs of life that you'll see along the way from product and from brand and story. But it gives us a really good target and we're pleased of where we are right now. So taking the room in our marketing to build a comprehensive campaign.

Speaker 3

Relative to gross margin longer term, there's nothing structurally prohibiting us from driving more towards 50% over time. When you think about some of those longer term tailwinds for next year and beyond, continued lower promotions as we can continue this reset play, higher mix of DTC percentage, including higher ASPs and better segmentation, etcetera. There will be a continued headwind, we believe, with footwork growth outpacing apparel growth longer term, but we're okay with that. And relative to the front half, back half, relative to gross margin and there's really a couple of different things. There's gross margin, there's SG and A.

Speaker 3

But gross margin, Q2 is generally our highest gross margin quarter to start just as our brand. And then when you think about the back half, we normally have more seasonal promotions in Q3. So that's something that's obviously coming into play here. And then also there are some supply chain headwinds in the back half with a little bit more ocean freight pressure and some tougher prior year comps. So all of that is kind of built into our back half gross margin profit.

Speaker 3

And you can understand then why front half versus back half gross margin a little bit different. But maybe taking that a step further and how it translates all the way down to operating income, there's even a bigger differential within SG and A spending. Here, adjusted SG and A, we're thinking that we're going to be up year over year compared to a 10% decline in the first half. And you kind of asked why is that, but the second half obviously does not include a $27,000,000 insurance recovery that we saw in Q2. And then the marketing is a really big piece.

Speaker 3

We're actually planning roughly $40,000,000 more of marketing investments in the back half of this year versus the front half, as we kind of ramp up around key commercial moments and also as Kevin mentioned, reinvesting some of the profitability upside. So when you kind of add that gross margin timing difference and you add the SG and A differences, it kind of points to the front half of our year for this fiscal year anyway. We're earning about 90% of our operating income for the full year. So it is a little bit interesting and there's a lot of pieces there, but I just wanted to try and help make sure everybody got grasp that.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks a lot guys. Best of luck coming to Holiday.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question will come from Jay Sole with UBS. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you so much. A lot of exciting things to talk about. But Kevin, I want to ask you about a comment you made that you're getting strong feedback on new products. Can you just elaborate that on that a little bit?

Speaker 4

Tell us a little bit more about these new products. Tell us more about the feedback you're getting. And if you give us a sense of like how retailers are really responding in terms of their orders, that would be super interesting. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Jay. We've got work to do. And so I think right now we're running a bit of a better business. But what's difficult in our industry with an 18 month go to market typically is we still have time before we'll start seeing a lot of these things hit the market, be it the product especially in the marketing of course.

Speaker 2

And as I mentioned, there's be plenty of proofs of life. We've got I think our pipeline right now, with what you've seen, our product team, John Barbados, Euron, our entire group plus this incredible group of experts that we've had here in place at UA. I think our product pipeline is really as healthy as I've seen it. We've got a lot of things that are exciting. We've got some drops that are coming for Q1 of calendar 2025.

Speaker 2

But then as I said, it's really going to be an anchor around fallwinter 2025. And so we're going to give you a lot more color at our Investor Day coming up December 12 as well. So we want to make sure that people make a point to come see and visit us there. It'll be somewhat qualitative and what we're doing is going through the topics of talking about the business. But we've got an update to our slip speed product that's coming in Q1, which should be really exciting.

Speaker 2

And then again, I think that we're doing a good job in some of the places we're winning. It's the basics. It's UA compression and base layer that's working for us right now. Unstoppable is a franchise that you've heard us talk about consistently. The Vanished Men's, I mentioned in the prepared remarks, as well as outerwear is doing pretty well for us too.

Speaker 2

So what we found is I feel like we've got this organization where the pipes are laid, not only to the product, but making sure that we're getting the shelf space and the relationships that we have with retailers as well, making sure that we're sequencing also is doing a good job with the way that we can tell the stories of those products on e comm and making sure we're spending and making $1 spend like 3 as we say here at UA, and really getting the bang for the buck when it comes to making it a compelling story. And that's why we've just going through product and making sure that product and story have this function. I mentioned product marketing and commercial working together, but something as simplistic as I've said before on the calls is, what it is, what it does and how it makes you better. Going to retail at times, we've become a bit of a brand that's being sold on price. There's just so much more to the incredible products that we make.

Speaker 2

And so, with our story there, you're just selling shirts and shoes and the world doesn't need another capable apparel footwear brand. The world needs hope. And that's what we think Under Armour can be. And so that's really, I'm not sure sort of where this inflects for the business. But one thing I can tell you is that, we don't know exactly when it is, but it's not too distant of when this brand inflects and that'll be the real metric that we're looking to build forward on.

Speaker 4

Yes, I understand. That sounds great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Our next question will come from Bob Drbul with Guggenheim. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning. Just on North America, Kevin, when you look at where North America is and the reset, how is it working? And do you expect North America to grow in FY 2026?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Bob. We're not looking at 2026 just yet. But let me tell you a few things that we're thinking and we do know about North America. We've got work to do in this market, but we also have a brand that has great affinity.

Speaker 2

And I don't believe the consumer is mad at us. We just have to give them a reason to want to engage with us again. Probably one of the things I'm most proud of in the 1st 7 months of being back in the CEO chair is identifying and defining for our own team as well as beginning to for our consumers, of who we are and who we stand for, which is this underdog thematic that you'll begin to see come through. And that's not meant to be a little translation, but more the directionally of what and who we are, because it's just frankly authentic and we think we're the only ones who could hold that position. But we think it's going to mean something here in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Especially. And then we'll see that it gives you both to set the tone for both EMEA and APAC as well. This revenue step down that we've done, it's allowed us to test some things. We've reset our e commerce business.

Speaker 2

And as a part of that, you saw the significant benefit it's had to gross margin. This underscores for us that there was a test. The world wants Under Armour. We're a brand that's earned the right to exist and that we're a premium brand. And so as long as we sort of clear out some of the noise that we've had around some of the lower ASP products and get ourselves to a more full price front foot tenor, I think you'll see the strength from us.

Speaker 2

But that's not going to happen from wishful thinking either or just a fancy ad campaign, it means better products. And so what the team has done, from taking us from competing on price to competing on science and design, but this is going to take some time. As I mentioned, there was probably several proofs of life that you'll be able to see. Some of them may be a lottery ticket, but you never know. It's why I like to say that success and mediocrity are typically next door neighbors.

Speaker 2

So how far away are you, but we have some product we really like coming in. As I mentioned that, slip speed in the Q1 is really powerful. This neo last expression that we have coming is going to be really exciting. And then sportswear for UA is also a huge opportunity where you'll continue to see, our bent there really begin to grow. But the shift to more premium, one thing I want to be clear on is, I don't think that we don't have to stop selling good level in order to premiumize this brand.

Speaker 2

We just need to focus more on some of our better and best level product. And so I think a lot of the things with from the product and the story side and then of course the relationships at the accounts, what we're doing with our own e comm and our own store base as well matters. But some of these bigger structural things, as I mentioned, what Eric is doing and adding to an incredibly talented executive team, I feel that we've assembled. Category management is going to make a difference. The SKU rationalization and eliminating 25% of our SKUs over the next 12 months to 18 months just gives us just clear focus and makes it easier for the consumer, all of that with a healthy tension on cost management, of course.

Speaker 2

And so we want to elevate the brand experience. We want to do that in our factory houses. I think there's some pretty significant margin opportunity for us there, our brand houses, of course, and then just these relationships with wholesalers. I said in my prepared remarks, this idea of ensuring that our strategic partners know their strategic partners, that extends beyond just our customers. It goes to our factories, it goes through our vendors, it goes really across the board for this brand.

Speaker 2

So I think that North America is that as we've stabilizing this ship, we think that there's great upside for Under Armour. But we're incredibly optimistic and we like where we are. We like our team. We like the position we have. We think we've got a pretty good shot.

Speaker 5

Great. And if I could just jump in with one more. I think Dave mentioned additional marketing dollars in the second half, like what will those dollars be spent on?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Bob. Let me take that. We're thrilled with the overdrive of $50,000,000 It's big money, but we're going to split that and give $25,000,000 of it to the bottom line. And then we're also going to be putting that across the different regions with EMEA, APAC and the Americas. I mean, this is going to be a lot of top of funnel brand building in Europe, where I think all three regions are pretty much in different places as well.

Speaker 2

Europe is probably our strongest region right now. We've already got a campaign that's in place and in flight. And so we're going to be bolstering that. We're going to be a little more defensive in APAC, which is an area that we think that we're really going to dig in. And I'm going to spend more time on China and our business there as well beginning in the Q1 as we turn into the new year.

Speaker 2

And then here in the U. S, we're going to put a portion of that towards some of our top of funnel and again with the fiscal year going through March as we roll into fiscal year 2026, this underdog positioning that we have, but there's a lot of great things that happened in the Q1 of 2025, specifically the 2025 NBA All Star Game, which is going to be held in San Francisco, which will should be like a homecoming for Stepan who will be hosting that effectively. Super Bowl March Madness and so there's a lot of places where again we can just start getting this perspective of the brand, which is maybe a bit of a new Under Armour, but something which feels incredibly natural and just who and what we are.

Speaker 5

Thank

Speaker 1

you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thanks, Bob.

Operator

Our next question will come from Paul Lejuez with Citi. You may now go ahead. Hey, thanks guys. Two questions. First, as you guys further embrace the underdog personas, I think, you called it Kevin, what does it mean for how you're going to use professional athletes as brand ambassadors going forward?

Operator

Should we expect any change there? And then second, just curious if you can just give an update on where you think inventory levels and promotional levels are in each of your major markets right now and as you look out to holiday? Yes.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Paul. I think that this persona is something which this isn't lost on that pros don't apply to it. And of course, the changing landscape, what NIL means and what's happening with sports marketing, sports marketing assets. The unique aspect of UA when we talk about being a sports house, it means that we sort of run the spectrum from American football to football in Europe to basketball. And there's probably no better example of what I described as that underdog athlete is those that weren't given all of God's gifts, but somehow have to work a little harder and train a little more and apply that rule of 10,000 and Probably Stephen Curry is the one who's changed the game of basketball by doing exactly that.

Speaker 2

He didn't come out and he wasn't the tallest, the biggest or the fastest, but he just, he took a focus on something that allowed him to compete there. So we think we can do this both high and low, with elite levels like a Stephen, all the way down to the more personal stories that you'll see at the NIL collegiate level as well. And so I'm not sure if you asked me to line up all those that feel like they're going through a hard time right now, had to overcome something pretty difficult and try to get to where they are. That's a pretty consistent feeling is that just about everybody feels that way. And so we think we're going to tap into that and we think it's incredibly true and authentic to who and what this brand is as well.

Speaker 2

So we think there's a bit of an unlock force there.

Speaker 3

And this is Dave. Relative to the inventory question, I think what we're seeing is the industry inventory levels are definitely a little better positioned today. Though I think there's still some retailer conservatism out there that's kind of leaning towards a little softer demand, and it's also still a very intense competitive environment. So we're still seeing a little bit of retailer conservatism remaining and therefore kind of reluctance to kind of go after big increases in orders, etcetera. But as far as where we see ourselves, we think the overall size of our inventory is good right now in the market and what we have in our DHs.

Speaker 3

We expect that level to fall a little bit more as we close out the year. And on the composition of our inventory, the majority is current season with active demand. So the aging of our inventory is in good shape. And there are significant differences by region and product type, but they're not really much to call out as far as where we stand on far as aging or anything like that. So we continue to manage well.

Speaker 3

We think we're in a good spot. We're going to start working further on inventory turns in the future years, but we're pretty comfortable where we are right now.

Operator

Thank you. Good luck. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Paul. Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Our next question will come from Brian Nagel with Oppenheimer. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

So a

Speaker 4

couple of questions. First off, listen, I guess, within the investment community, tariffs are now another hot topic. So any thoughts there from Under Armour from a sourcing perspective? How to what extent you how you would be able to manage any increase in tariffs? And then second, I guess, bigger picture, Kevin, you talked about in your comments just the pushback to wholesale and you're reengaging with your wholesale partners.

Speaker 4

Kind of I know it's early, but where are we in those conversations? And how are some of those initial conversations going? I mean, I guess the question I'm asking is you're talking to these wholesale partners, what is it they're really looking for and what timetable from Under Armour?

Speaker 3

Hey, Brian, this is Dave. I'll jump in on the tariffs. As we're sitting here today, obviously, we've got the election results and we're going to keep an eye on how that kind of unfolds. It'll be interesting to see how things develop with whether we still have a split Congress or not. I think that's really going to impact some things, if it goes one way or if it stays split.

Speaker 3

And we're going to continue to monitor it. Obviously, there could be some higher tariffs. There could be some U. S. Duty implications that could impact our cost of goods sold and gross margin and a little bit with income tax expense.

Speaker 3

But it's something that we were prepared to manage pretty well before. We'll continue to manage it as best we can going forward. So right now, we're not anticipating any real sizable impacts, but it's something we're going to keep monitoring. Kevin, do you want to jump on the wholesale partners?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Brian. I think that I've had a it's interesting when you talk to our accounts is they're generally so happy and looking for partners that can break through. I mean, you got to remember a lot of the people we do business with, they've had the majority of their open to buy like greater than 40%, 50%, 60%. It's typically been dominated by 1 brand.

Speaker 2

So when they say they're rooting for you, they really mean it, but I imagine they say that to lots of partners. So what we have to do is we have to find product that cuts through. And I've got to say in my 1st 7 months, I've had the benefit of being everywhere from across Europe, from Manchester to Amsterdam to London, across Latin America, across Asia, as well as taking in some football games, as well as going to see our key partners and customers that we have here. So there has been no mold has been growing underneath of our feet. We are certainly moving and making sure that we're sitting down and talking to customers.

Speaker 2

We're also with our new headquarters, we're also been inviting a lot of people here to show them to be able to we play a great home game and let people feel what's happening with this brand because it's hard to say is that as I said, the brand will inflect sooner than the business will inflect and you can start to feel that. I think that between Yacine and the product teams and now with Eric coming on board to be able to unlock that product and story aspect as well as what Cara has been doing here in North America with our partners. We just want to let them know that Under Armour is open for business. Again, that we are ready to listen to their feedback and input, but let's be clear, we have a point of view. We bring a point of view as a brand that's incredibly unique.

Speaker 2

Everything performs, everything does something, every product is meant to help you get better. And so whether that's the performance products we put on field or whether it's us entering a category like sportswear, there's a differentiator that makes it UA. And we think that that with the technical components of the product along with the benefits that we're able to story tell, but making sure because I don't think our story has been told either A, who this brand is or B, what the products do. We're going to do a much better job of that. And so these retailers are rooting for us and we feel an obligation to do a good job for them.

Speaker 2

We've got a longstanding history and but we don't have as much shelf space as we once had. And so it's our job to earn that season by season And we feel really good about what the future looks like. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen all at once, but we are certainly in this fight.

Speaker 4

I appreciate all the color. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thanks, Brian.

Operator

Our final question will come from John Kernan with Cowen. You may now go ahead. Pardon me, John, your line may be muted. Pardon me, John, your line may be muted.

Speaker 2

We lost to the Polo call.

Speaker 1

There were 2 on there, operator. Maybe try the second one. There were 2 in the queue under John. Not sure what happened.

Operator

Okay. One moment. John, if you would like to join the queue, please press star then 1.

Speaker 1

Yes, we lost in the queue. Yes, we'll go ahead and conclude our call on that then. And John, if you're listening and can't get in, we'll give you a follow-up call on that. Appreciate it, Puneet. So thank you everyone for joining us today on our Q2 fiscal 2025 call.

Speaker 1

Much appreciated. Terrific.

Speaker 2

Thanks everyone. Thank

Operator

you. The conference has now concluded. Thanks for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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