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Wynn Resorts Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript


Listen to Conference Call

Participants

Corporate Executives

  • Julie Cameron-Doe
    Chief Financial Officer
  • Craig Billings
    Chief Executive Officer
  • Frederic Luvisutto
    Chief Operating Officer
  • Brian Gullbrants
    President, Wynn Las Vegas, LLC

Presentation

Operator

Welcome to the Wynn Resorts Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] This call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time.

I will now turn the line over to Julie Cameron-Doe, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Julie Cameron-Doe
Chief Financial Officer at Wynn Resorts

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. On the call with me today are Craig Billings, Brian Gullbrants and Steve Whiteman in Las Vegas. Also on the line are Ian Coughlan, Linda Chen, Frederic Luvisutto and Jenny Holaday.

I want to remind you that we may make forward-looking segments under safe harbor federal securities laws, and those statements may or may not come true.

I will now turn the call over to Craig Billings.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Thanks, Julie. Afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us. As we prepared for this call, I looked at an old analyst note that was published after our Q4 2019 earnings. The expectation for 2022 EBITDA at Wynn Las Vegas in that note was $482 million. Here we are three years in a global pandemic later, and Wynn Las Vegas just printed $816 million of normalized adjusted property EBITDA, $816 million.

I'm confident that this is an all-time record for the standalone Las Vegas Strip property. And mind you, we did not deliver this result by nickel and diming on service standards and reducing staff to drive operating leverage. The team did it by focusing on what we do best. Great products, great service, great programming, and it showed in our market share and pricing power. The Wynn Las Vegas team absolutely crushed it in 2022. Our business in Vegas is stronger and more relevant than it has ever been. I'll talk more about the fourth quarter in Vegas in our outlook in a moment.

Turning to several other significant events, I'd like to touch on our concession renewal and the reopening of Macau. I was in Macau for nearly three weeks in December. And after going through the then required quarantine, I was fortunate to attend the signing ceremony for our new concession. I'm proud of the plan that we put forward as part of the concession renewal and believe that the capex and programming we proposed will be additive to our business there over the coming years. I would like to thank the government of Macau for their faith in us and, importantly, I would like to thank the Wynn Macau team for their dedication to our business over the past three very difficult years.

Fortunately, recent actions by both Macau and Mainland authorities to reopen the market give us great confidence that the difficulties are behind us in the near-term future there much brighter. Over the past several weeks, we've welcomed back an increasing number of guests as the region has reopened to travel and tourism in a meaningful way. With our premium product and service levels, we are well positioned to lead the post-COVID recovery in Macau, and our strengths were evident during the recent Chinese New Year holiday period.

In the casino, mass table drop reached 95% of 2019 Chinese New Year levels with strong play across the spectrum from premium mass to core mass. In direct VIP, turnover was 40% above pre-COVID Chinese New Year levels. And importantly, we estimate that our hold-normalized GGR market share during the month of January was consistent with 2019 levels, despite all the changes in the junket environment, define the expectations of those who continue to incorrectly believe that we are solely a VIP focused organization.

On the non-gaming side, hotel occupancy was 96%, and our tenant retail sales increased 34% compared to Chinese New Year 2019. Overall, during the Chinese New Year period, we delivered our strongest EBITDAR performance since the onset of the pandemic, approximately $4 million of normalized EBITDAR per day.

Turning back to Las Vegas. The team at Wynn Las Vegas turned in a fourth quarter record with $219 million of EBITDAR. We saw broad-based strength across casino, hotel, F&B, entertainment and retail, all well above Q4 2021 levels, despite the difficult year-over-year comps. Our investment in people, facilities and programming and our team's deep sense of personal ownership of our business continue to drive growth.

We continue to monitor economic trends and forward bookings at Wynn Las Vegas. We're encouraged that the strength we have experienced over the past several quarters has continued into Q1. Similarly, our forward-looking indicators also remain quite strong despite well-known macro concerns as room bookings are pacing at or above pre-COVID-19 levels on substantially higher ADRs.

Turning to Boston. Like Vegas, Encore had a strong quarter, generating $63 million of EBITDAR. We saw strength across the casino with record gross gaming revenue and on the non-gaming side with strong hotel revenue driven by both ADR and occupancy. The strength has continued into the first quarter with EBITDA per day in January, largely consistent with trends we have experienced over the past few quarters.

We were also pleased to launch retail sports betting at Encore Boston Harbor last week, averaging a little over 0.5 million a day in handle over the first 6 days, which is about 80% of the average daily handle at Wynn Las Vegas. During those six days, we also signed up about 30% more Wynn Rewards members than normal. We continue to expect the book to be a significant driver for new customer acquisition over time. We also continue to advance our plans for our upcoming development project across the street from the property that will include incremental parking, food and beverage and entertainment amenities.

At Wynn Interactive, our overall EBITDA burn rate in the quarter ticked up sequentially to $28 million due to a well-publicized World Series bet that went against us. Adjusted for that single bet, burn was roughly flat. Our team continues to stay disciplined on cost while driving improved marketing efficiency. We're looking forward to the potential for a significant catalyst for Wynn bet in Massachusetts with the combination of our recently launched retail book and the expected upcoming launch of online sports betting.

Lastly, we are quickly advancing our planning for Wynn Al Marjan Island, our integrated resort in the UAE. We're in the late stages of programming for the resort, and I expect we will be driving piles for the foundation of the property by the middle of the year. I also expect we will share renderings, programming and plans publicly over the next few months. The more time we spend in that market, the more confident we are in the projects.

With that, I will now turn it over to Julie to run through some additional details on the quarter. Julie?

Julie Cameron-Doe
Chief Financial Officer at Wynn Resorts

Thank you, Craig. At Wynn Las Vegas, we generated a fourth quarter record of $219.3 million in adjusted property EBITDAR on $585.5 million of operating revenue during the quarter. Lower-than-normal hold negatively impacted EBITDAR by around $10.5 million in Q4. Our hotel occupancy was 89.9% in the quarter, up 350 basis points year-over-year and up 50 basis points versus Q4 2019. Importantly, we've stayed true to our luxury brand and continue to compete on quality of product and service experience with our overall ADR reaching a record $492 during Q4 2022, up 11.8% versus Q4 2021 and 53% above Q4 2019 levels.

Our other non-gaming businesses saw broad-based strength across F&B, entertainment and retail, which were up nicely year-over-year and also well above pre-pandemic levels. In the casino, our Q4 2022 slot handle increased 20.9% year-over-year and was 69% of Q4 2019 levels. Similarly, our table drop was up 1.1% year-over-year and was 43% above Q4 2019 levels despite still suppressed international play during the quarter due to COVID-related travel challenges., The team in Vegas has done a great job of controlling costs without negatively impacting the guest experience, delivering adjusted property EBITDAR margin of 37.4% in the quarter.

On a hold-normalized basis, our EBITDAR margin was up approximately 1,300 basis points compared to Q4 2019. Opex, excluding gaming tax per day was $3.8 million in Q4 2022, up 25% compared to Q4 2019 levels but well below the 59% increase in operating revenue. In Boston, before getting into the details, I'd like to point out that following the closing of the sale-leaseback transaction on December 1, we're now reporting adjusted profit to EBITDA for this business.

In Q4 2022, we generated adjusted property EBITDAR of $63.3 million with EBITDAR margin of 29%. We saw broad-based strength across casino and non-gaming during the quarter. In the casino, we generated $190 million of GGR, a property record with strength in both tables and slots. Our non-gaming revenue grew 13% year-over-year to a record $56.8 million with particular strength in the hotels, driven by 93.9% occupancy and a $404 ADR.

We've stayed very disciplined on the cost side with opex, excluding gaming tax per day of approximately $1.17 million in Q4 2022. This was a decrease of over 8% compared to $1.3 million per day in Q4 2019 and up modestly relative to Q3 2022. As we've discussed on prior calls, the year-over-year EBITDAR and opex comps were impacted by a combination of contractual labor agreements, which added around $45,000 per day to our opex base beginning late in Q2 2022, along with a nonrecurring benefit of $2 million in Q4 last year.

We're well-positioned to drive strong operating leverage as we continue to grow the top line over time. Our Macau operations delivered an EBITDA loss of $59.1 million in the quarter on $190.3 million of operating revenues, lower than normal hold negatively impacted EBITDAR by around $25 million in Q4. While the COVID situation in the region was challenging during Q4, as Craig noted, we were encouraged by the meaningful uptick in visitation and demand we experienced during the recent Chinese holiday period.

Our opex, excluding gaming tax, was approximately $2 million per day in Q4, a decrease compared to $2.4 million in Q4 2021. The team has done a great job remaining disciplined on costs in a difficult operating environment. Longer term, we are well-positioned to drive strong operating leverage as the business recovers over time.

In terms of the new concession, we approach the tender process very prudently, carefully balancing our commitments to the government with our responsibilities to our shareholders and, of course, our liquidity position. We're currently advancing through the design and planning stages for these projects require a number of government approvals creating a wide range of potential capex in the varying day terms.

As such, for 2023, we expect capex related to our concession commitments to range between $50 million to $220 million. Our future non-gaming investments, including new site set to be home of a unique spectacle show and innovative food halls and an events and entertainment center. As Craig noted, we believe these investments play into our strength as we have a demonstrated track record of introducing innovative non-gaming investments that drive increased tourism and ultimately, strong shareholder returns.

Turning to Wynn Interactive. Our EBITDA burn rate increased sequentially to $28.3 million in Q4 2022. However, adjusting for the well-publicized World Series that Craig mentioned, it was roughly flat with our Q3 2022 burn rate of $17.7 million. The team continues to control costs while driving improved marketing efficiencies.

Moving on to the balance sheet. Our liquidity position remains very strong with global cash and revolver availability of approximately $4.5 billion as of December 31. This was comprised of $952 million of total cash and available liquidity in Macau and $3.5 billion in the US. These numbers exclude the undrawn $500 million intercompany revolving credit facility when results entered into with Wynn Macau. We were pleased to close the sale-leaseback transaction for the real estate of Encore Boston Harbor on December 1 with gross proceeds of $1.7 billion, further bolstering our already strong liquidity position.

Importantly, the combination of very strong performance in Las Vegas and Boston, with the properties generating $1.04 billion of adjusted property EBITDA during 2022, together with our robust liquidity creates a very healthy leverage profile in the US. With our properties performing well in each of our markets and our robust liquidity, I'd like to note our intention to repay our upcoming May 2023 Wynn Las Vegas bond maturity with cash from the balance sheet, reducing our domestic gross leverage by $500 million.

Finally, our capex in the quarter was $27 million, primarily related to normal course maintenance.

With that, we'll now open up the call to Q&A.

Questions and Answers

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Bank. You may go ahead.

Carlo Santarelli
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Hey, thanks. Thank you very much, Craig and Julie, for the comments. Craig, Julie, whoever wants to kind of take this one. Craig, I know you spoke a little bit about kind of what you guys saw in Macau during Chinese New Year. To the extent you're willing to kind of comment on what you've seen in the aftermath and kind of the weeks following the holiday, that would be great.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure. Thanks, Carlo. It's been pretty good actually. Frederic, do you want to take -- do you want to provide a little more color on that?

Frederic Luvisutto
Chief Operating Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure, Craig. Thank you, Carlo. We have seen typically after post Chinese New Year in the past, the period does see a slowdown. But we have been very encouraged to see the business remaining very, very strong with mass gaming, direct VIP and retail sales better than previously similar period in the past. So, we have seen the resilience of the business post Chinese New Year, I'm very encouraged with that.

Carlo Santarelli
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Great. Thank you. That's helpful. And then, Craig, you talked a little bit about obviously what you saw on the VIP side. I believe you said direct VIP was 40% above or so. That was 2019 Chinese New Year levels. Can you comment at all as to what the experience has been with whatever junket VIP there is in the market today?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Yeah, there was some junket activity over the course of Chinese New Year. Obviously, the situation has changed a lot from the pre-COVID period. I think it's actually a little bit too early to call out what role the gaming promoters and the junkets will play in the market, but there certainly was some activity.

Carlo Santarelli
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Great. Thanks, everybody.

Operator

Thank you. Our next caller is Joe Greff with JPMorgan.

Joe Greff
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hello, everybody. Following on Carlo's question on what you saw in Chinese New Years in the period since then. Can you talk about the migration of the junket VIP business into the direct and into the premium mass component of your mass business? How do you sort of you think -- what otherwise would have been the junket? What percentage of that do you think is migrating versus maybe not coming back quite yet?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

I think it's -- Joe, I think it's way too early to be talking about percentages given the market really just fully reopened on January 8, so really a month now. We certainly are seeing former junket customers migrate into both premium mass and into direct. Remember, direct is tricky because there you're talking about credit extension. And so, you have to be quite prudent in how you manage the direct business. But unfortunately, it's just a little too early. What I would say is, volumes came back, volumes came back strong. The narrative that we're VIP focused, I think, proves to be pretty false. We competed very strongly during the Chinese New Year period, and we're incredibly proud of the results that we had.

Joe Greff
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

And when you look back in 2019, we always thought that the direct VIP component was something around 10% to 20% of the total VIP turnovers. Are we fair in picking that? Can you remind us of that?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

You are. You are. Thanks, Joe.

Operator

Thank you. Our next caller is Shaun Kelley with Bank of America.

Shaun Kelley
Analyst at Bank of America.

Hi. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. Just was hoping to get a little bit more color on maybe the cost and margin picture as things start to rebound in Macau. Julie, I think in the prepared remarks, you mentioned you were down around $2 million a day in the fourth quarter in Macau, if I called it correctly, down from $2.4 million back in 2019.

Just as you're sort of re-ramping, I mean, I think we all really underappreciated the amount of operating leverage that was going to happen in certain markets in the United States and kind of trying to put some of the tea leaves together around how this may play out for Macau. So just any kind of thoughts on expenses and margins as the recovery begins here?

Julie Cameron-Doe
Chief Financial Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure. Yeah, you're correct, Sean. We did talk to our opex per day in Q4 with $2 million, which was down from $2.4 million the year prior. We worked really hard last year to preserve cash and to manage opex down while we were closed. So, obviously that's not representative of how things will be necessarily moving forward. As you know, we're fully open now and staffing full time in different F&B outlets and so on. So, where that shakes out in terms of margin, it's really going to depend on the mix of business that comes back in that market. It's pretty much the same [Indecipherable] that margin in Vegas.

It's very much mix dependent. And we don't manage our business on margin. That's really the outcome. We managed to our brand and we shop accordingly. And we're very tight in terms of staffing. We're very focused on doing that appropriately. We're very focused on -- but we're very, very focused on our service delivery centers as well.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

And I would just add, it's primarily a mass mix now. So you're going to have -- that's inherently higher margin and a portion of the cost savings that we implemented during the COVID period, which, thank God, is long behind us. We will maintain. So, the margin profile should be healthy. So, again, we're really talking about a couple of weeks here. So it's a little bit early to start forecasting specific margins.

Shaun Kelley
Analyst at Bank of America.

Great. Understood. And then, maybe just the follow-up. Another thing that kind of came up in the prepared remarks was the capex outlook in Macau, and I think you gave a pretty wide range. Can you just kind of talk about what would sort of dictate maybe the high versus the low? What are some of the different either projects that could get underway or things that could impact the outcome of the range that you discussed?

Julie Cameron-Doe
Chief Financial Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure. So, I think, just taking a step back, if you think about our total commitment when we put through our concession proposal, we've committed to $2.2 billion over 10 years. And that's -- obviously, that's a mix of capex and opex, but we're very focused on getting the capex done as quickly as possible so that we can start to drive strong returns from it.

The limiting factor is really the approval that we need locally to break ground and build anything. So it's really not in our hands. That's why we've given such a wide range because from our perspective, we're pacing towards getting through our D&D and designing everything, but we have to go through government approvals for anything that's construction related. So the range we gave was $50 million to $220 million.

Shaun Kelley
Analyst at Bank of America.

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next caller is David Katz with Jefferies. You may go ahead.

Cassandra Lee
Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Hi. This is Cassandra on behalf of David. You mentioned that digital was nearly broke even in the fourth quarter, excluding the [Indecipherable] results. Can you discuss the upcoming launches and whether we should expect the business to inflect to profit this year?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure. The upcoming -- the most significant upcoming launch is Massachusetts, where obviously, we have Encore Boston Harbor, and I would hope and expect that we will have a reasonable market share because of the presence of that property as our competitors have in other markets. We are driving the business as hard as we can while being prudent. I would expect some point of inflection in late 2023 depending upon how much money good user acquisition we do in Massachusetts, but we have the burn at this point, really, really well under control.

And again, as we talked about before, the long-term strategy is really focused on Massachusetts and positioning ourselves for iGaming, which would make the business accretive to our land-based resorts.

Cassandra Lee
Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Great. Thank you. If I may follow up. Can you talk about your upcoming maturity? And any thoughts about tapping to the capital market now since we have seen some activity in the last few weeks?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

I think Julie just mentioned in the prepared remarks that we're going to pay down our upcoming maturity with cash on the balance sheet.

Cassandra Lee
Analyst at Jefferies Financial Group

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next caller is Robin Farley with UBS.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Great. Thanks. I wonder just circling back to how things are trending post Chinese New Year, obviously really strong numbers through the holiday. There has been chatter that the drop-off in the market overall. It was a little bit more than seasonal. So I wonder if you could sort of give your take on that. Is it reasonable to think that there'll just be kind of increased volatility, maybe around kind of shoulder periods? Or I guess, how would you kind of frame that more than normal for the seasonal drop-off post the holiday?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Hi, Robin. Yeah, I'm not sure who you've been talking to. Frederic just mentioned that actually we've been performing above what we would normally see during that drop-off period.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

But when you say, performing above, I don't know if that was a combination of you talked about your expenses being down, and so it could be overall EBITDA. But just wondering on the...

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

No, he was talking business volumes.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Okay. So, would you then assume that that's a growth in market share? And in other words, what's your take on sort of the overall market volatility that maybe you're gaining share and it sounds like in that period, but just your thinking.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

It's a week, right. In the grand scheme of things, it's a week. So, it's hard to read any tales [Phonetic] in a week. What I would say is that the market roared back, Macau was a ranger on the mass side on the direct VIP side, on the retail side and on the occupancy side during Chinese New Year, and it outperformed our expectations for the lull period shortly thereafter. Anything beyond that, it's just too early to read.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Okay. And just to clarify, when you say it outperformed your expectations, but you meant specifically that it was a better sequential drop off than what you've seen in '19 or just better than what your expectations were for this year?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Former.

Robin Farley
Analyst at UBS Group

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is Daniel Politzer, you may go ahead, from Wells Fargo.

Daniel Politzer
Analyst at Wells Fargo & Company

Hey. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to circle back on the $4 million EBITDA per day for Chinese New Year that you mentioned. Is there any way you could put that into historical context, I don't know what it was in 2019 or during other Golden Week or Chinese New York periods?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Yeah, it would have been -- I don't remember if we've quoted it previously. So I want to be careful in terms of prior disclosure, but it's substantial relative to prior periods. It's certainly not where we peak. I'll put it to you that way, because the junket contribution wasn't there this year, and that was, call it, $700,000 to $1 million of EBITDA in a normal Chinese New Year. I think the point is, it's a substantial number, given that the market really opened at the beginning of January, and it gives us confidence in the remainder of 2023 and beyond.

Daniel Politzer
Analyst at Wells Fargo & Company

Understood. And then, just pivoting to Las Vegas. I mean, to what extent since China is effectively reopened, have you seen that high-end Asia business kind of resurface your Vegas property?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Too early to say. I mean, our backdrop in the fourth quarter was pretty strong. So we've been doing pretty well on the back of domestic bot [Phonetic] business. And in fact, those folks from the region that chose to sit it out -- sit COVID out over here. So, again, a little bit early to say. You have to go through the process of getting a visa, you have to arrange travel, etc, etc. But certainly, international travel is a tailwind that we hope to see in Vegas in 2023, given that really in 2022, it was only -- the only real inbound visitation was some from Europe and from Latin America.

Daniel Politzer
Analyst at Wells Fargo & Company

Got it. Thanks.

Julie Cameron-Doe
Chief Financial Officer at Wynn Resorts

Operator, the next question will be the last one. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our last question comes from Stephen Grambling with Morgan Stanley. You may go ahead, sir.

Stephen Grambling
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Hey, thanks. I may have missed this. But in Las Vegas, can you just provide any additional color on what you're seeing in terms of forward bookings, not only in -- I guess, the first quarter should be particularly strong, but even as we look out over the course of the year, what you're seeing and any expectations as it relates to kind of convention mix? Thanks.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure. I'll start, and then I'll ask Brian to comment. So, first and foremost, we have been really intentional over the past year in how we've approached our business in Las Vegas. Our business here is more relevant with the best customers than ever before. And so, even with the tailwinds we've outperformed, yet we're keenly aware of the broader economic environment from interest rates to gas prices to layoffs, and we have a 2023 playbook for any number of economic scenarios.

Brian, do you want to talk about your view on 2023 and then perhaps dig a little bit more into convention?

Brian Gullbrants
President, Wynn Las Vegas, LLC at Wynn Resorts

Absolutely. As we look to '23, not only were we pacing strong coming out of '22 going into '23 has just accelerated. I'm so excited about what we've got coming in '23. When you look at it, we've got the best teams in the business. We've got the best assets in the business. In Vegas, we've got strong pace of group, particularly as we look forward into '23 and then even beyond.

Q1 may be a record for us. It's just really done well. We have strong pricing power in every channel. We got a new show. We just launched with awakening. We've got several projects coming in '23 that are really exciting. And then, we kind of kick things at the end up a notch with F1 in November. So, our outlook for the year, pending no other macroeconomic impacts, looks pretty good. We're feeling pretty good about what we can see right now. So, on the group side, very strong.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

We're doing really well on what we can control. We don't control the macroeconomy. That's a fact. So, how that flows? Don't know. But we're feeling good about our business here.

Stephen Grambling
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Fair enough. Then if I can just sneak in a quick follow-up on Macau. As you think about how to grow the direct VIP business, you're thinking about that as an opportunity, is one way to think through maybe some of the customers were used to that, both VIP and in the mass market segment as a target customer? And is there any way to frame how big that business could grow?

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Every customer is unique. And so it's really difficult. If I had a broad strokes playbook, I probably wouldn't share it on a public call, but every customer is unique. And so, the ecosystem now, which is comprised of junkets but different, promoters and us, it gives us the ability to address a subsegment of those junket customers. Some of them, they're going to -- it's going to take years to figure out. But certainly, a portion of those will migrate into our direct business. You saw it over Chinese New Year. And some of them will migrate into premium mass. But I don't think there's a broad swath playbook that we can talk about.

Stephen Grambling
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Fair enough. Thanks so much.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Sure.

Operator

Okay. Well, with that, we'll now close the call. Thank you all for your time today and your support in results. We look forward to updating you very soon.

Craig Billings
Chief Executive Officer at Wynn Resorts

Thanks, everybody.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

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