United Rentals Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • The company delivered a record Q1 performance with total revenue up 30% to $3.3 billion, rental revenue up 26%, adjusted EBITDA up 32% to $1.5 billion and a record EBITDA margin of 45.8%, while ROIC hit a new high of 13.1%.
  • Demand remains robust across all major end markets, led by nonresidential construction, industrial manufacturing and power, supported by double-digit growth in every region and a 24% increase in specialty rentals with 6 new locations opened.
  • Used equipment sales rebounded 84% year-over-year to $388 million with a 59.5% margin, reflecting normalized disposal volumes and strong retail pricing amid healthy customer demand.
  • Capital allocation priorities drove $350 million of shareholder returns in Q1, leverage improved to 1.9×, liquidity exceeded $2.65 billion, and the company reaffirmed full-year 2023 targets for ~20% revenue growth, margin expansion and $2.1–2.35 billion of free cash flow.
  • Long-term growth is underpinned by multiyear tailwinds including federal infrastructure funding, Inflation Reduction Act projects and over $2 trillion of private construction spending expected over the next decade.
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Earnings Conference Call
United Rentals Q1 2023
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There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the United Rentals Investor Conference Call. Please be advised that this call is being recorded. Before we begin, please note that the company's press release, Comments made on today's call and responses to your questions contain forward looking statements. The company's business and operations are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond its control. And consequently, actual results may differ materially from those projected.

Operator

A summary of these uncertainties is included in the Safe Harbor statement contained in the company's press release. For a more complete description of these and other possible risks, please refer to the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022, as well as to subsequent filings with the SEC. You can access these filings on the company's website at www.unitedrentals.com. Please note that United Rentals has no obligation and makes no commitment to update or publicly release any revisions to forward looking statements in order to reflect new information or subsequent events, circumstances or changes in expectations. You should also note that the company's press release and today's call include references to non GAAP terms such as free cash flow, adjusted EPS, EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA.

Operator

Please refer to the back of the company's recent investor presentations to see the reconciliation from each non GAAP financial measure to the most comparable GAAP financial measure. Speaking today for United Rentals is Matt Flannery, President and Chief Executive Officer and Ted Graeff, Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Flannery. Mr.

Operator

Flannery, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our call. 3 months ago, after our record full year financial We told you that we'd continue raising the bar in 2023. And I'm pleased to say that the year is off to a strong start, which you can see in the results that we shared last night. The integration of Ahern is on track and our team is doing a great job executing our plan and delivering for our customers.

Speaker 1

And as always, we're very pleased that we did this safely with another recordable rate below 1. This execution and the continued strength of our end markets give us the confidence to reaffirm our full year 2023 guidance for substantial growth, solid margin expansion and significant free cash generation. Let's start by digging into our Q1 results. Total revenue grew by 30% to a 1st quarter record $3,300,000,000 Within this, Rental revenue increased by 26%. EBITDA increased 32% to 1,500,000,000 While margins expanded to 45.8%, both first quarter records.

Speaker 1

And finally, our return on invested capital Set a new high watermark at 13.1%. During the Q1, we invested $797,000,000 in gross CapEx And year to date, we closed 2 local acquisitions that nicely complement our strategy. Combined with the actions that we took during the Q1 and Q4 of last year, we're well positioned to support the demand our customers see in. Looking more closely at the Q1 demand, key verticals saw growth across the board, led by non res construction, Industrial Manufacturing and Power. Geographically, we saw much of the same, including double digit growth in all of our regions.

Speaker 1

Our specialty business delivered another excellent quarter with rental revenue up 24% year on year and strong growth across all lines Business led by our mobile storage team. Within specialty, we opened 6 new locations and are on track for around 40 cold starts this year. View sales were another positive in the quarter with revenue up 84% year on year largely due to the normalized volumes after holding back Sales in 2022. Not only where we see recovery rates and margins strong, but the level of demand provides another positive indication of how our customers are feeling about their outlook and the need for equipment. Turning to capital allocation, Our focus remains on driving profitable growth and returning excess cash to our shareholders.

Speaker 1

We view this as a hallmark of a good company and a means of maximizing value. During the quarter, we returned over $350,000,000 to our shareholders, supported by the strength of our balance sheet and free cash flow generation. Looking ahead, we see continued reasons for regarding our business in the balance of 23 and beyond. Near term, we're encouraged by the momentum we're carrying And to our busy season combined with a variety of positive industry indicators. First off, both internal and external measurements of customer confidence Continue to point towards growth in 2023.

Speaker 1

This is underpinned by current activity as well as the strength of customer backlogs. Additionally, non res construction starts increased over 30% in March and the Dodge Momentum Index was up 24% year over year. And the ABI points to growth as well where the forward looking inquiries component continues in the right direction. Together, these factors support our reaffirmed full year 2023 guidance. Longer term, We remain confident in our ability to capitalize on several significant multiyear tailwinds for our industry that we view as resilient in any economic environment.

Speaker 1

First is infrastructure. It remains early, but we continue to see a ramp in spending from the federal infrastructure bill across a variety of project types, including Airports, Bridges and Road and Highway. We're also well positioned to support our customers as they undertake projects across clean energy and advanced manufacturing funded by the Inflation Reduction Act. Within Private Construction, we continue to see strong investments across manufacturing led by autos, Semiconductors and Energy and Power. Combined reports indicate that these tailwinds hold the potential for over $2,000,000,000,000 of project spend in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Over the next decade. We're very well positioned to leverage our competitive advantages on these projects, Whether through the size of our network or the breadth and depth of our products and services, our team is prepared to serve our customers and drive value creation for our shareholders. Before I wrap up, I want to highlight The first question comes from the line of the line of John. You've long heard us talk about doing well by doing good.

Speaker 1

Our team continues to be recognized for their efforts in this area, including recent wins from the Wall Street Journal, where we made their management top 250 list, Recognizing companies for doing the right things well and the Just 100, which recognizes companies that are doing right by all their stakeholders while also generating strong performance for shareholders. So to sum it up, We continue to feel good about 2023 and beyond as our long term strategy has us well positioned. Our team is executing And our customers know we're there to support them with unmatched capabilities. And as we've consistently demonstrated, We know how to manage the flexibility of our business model while leveraging the strength of our balance sheet and the durability of our cash This gives us multiple options for creating value. Lastly, before I hand it over to Ted, I want to quickly highlight that we'll be hosting an Investor Day on May 31, during which we'll provide an in-depth review of our strategy, Key initiatives and financial performance with a Q and A session to follow.

Speaker 1

The event will be held both virtually and in person in New York City. We hope that you can join us. With that, I'll hand the call over to Ted to review our financial results and then we'll take your questions. Over to you, Ted. Thanks, Matt, and good morning, everyone.

Speaker 1

As you saw in our Q1 press release, our team again produced excellent results that were consistent with our expectations and importantly position us well for the full year. And I think Matt Frame things well in saying that we continue to feel good about both 2023 and beyond given the market opportunity we see, Our strategy, our team's consistently strong execution and our customers' knowledge that we are here to serve them with unmatched capabilities. One quick note before I jump into the numbers. The figures I'll be discussing are as reported, except in a few instances where I'll call them out as pro form a, which are adjusted to include Ahern's Q1 2022 standalone results in the year ago period. So with that said, 1st quarter rental revenue was a record at $2,740,000,000 That's an increase of 565,000,000 or 26% year over year.

Speaker 1

Within rental revenue, OER increased by $469,000,000 or 26.1%. Our average fleet size increased by 25.6 percent, providing a $460,000,000 benefit and fleet productivity increased by 2% As reported, adding another $36,000,000 This was partially offset by our usual fleet inflation of 1.5% or $27,000,000 Also within rental, ancillary revenues were higher by $93,000,000 or 28.3 percent and re rent provided an additional 3,000,000 I'll note that on a pro form a basis, rental revenue is up a robust 16.6% And fleet productivity increased by a healthy 5.9%. 1st quarter used sales increased by 84% to $388,000,000 As we return to a more normalized volume after holding on to fleet throughout much of 2022. Adjusted used margins increased by 170 points to 59.5 percent supported by continued strong retail pricing. Moving to EBITDA.

Speaker 1

Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter exceeded $1,500,000,000 another first quarter record, reflecting an increase of 3 $64,000,000 or 32%. The dollar change includes a $313,000,000 increase from rental, within which OER contributed $285,000,000 ancillary added $29,000,000 and re rent was down 1,000,000 Outside of rental, used sales added about $109,000,000 to adjusted EBITDA, while other non rental lines of businesses contributed another $5,000,000 SG and A increased by $63,000,000 due primarily to higher commissions and the continued normalization of certain discretionary costs. As a percentage of sales, however, SG and A declined by 120 basis points year on year to 11.6% of total revenue. Looking at 1st quarter profitability, our adjusted EBITDA margin increased 70 basis points on an as reported basis and 160 basis on a pro form a basis to a Q1 record of 45.8%. This translates to 48% flow through on an as reported basis And better than 53% on a pro form a basis.

Speaker 1

And finally, adjusted EPS was $7.95 another first quarter record. That's a year over year increase of $2.22 per share or almost 39%. Turning to CapEx. Gross rental CapEx was $797,000,000 and net rental CapEx was 409,000,000 This represents an increase of $138,000,000 in net CapEx year over year and positions us well for the growth we see in 2023. Looking at return on invested capital and free cash flow, ROIC set a new record at 13.1% on a trailing 12 month basis.

Speaker 1

That's up 40 basis points sequentially and 220 basis points year on year. I'll add that was 310 basis points above our current weighted average cost of capital. Free cash flow was another good story with the quarter coming in at $478,000,000 or an LTM free cash margin of 13.5%, all while continuing to fund significant growth. Turning to the balance sheet. Our leverage ratio at the end of the quarter improved to 1.9 times, representing a 10 basis point reduction both sequentially and year over year.

Speaker 1

And our liquidity at the end of March exceeded 2.65 $353,000,000 to shareholders in the quarter, including $103,000,000 via dividends and $250,000,000 through share repurchases. Looking forward, you saw last night that we reaffirmed our guidance across all metrics. Based on the diverse momentum we see across our markets and what we hear from our customers, we remain confident that 2023 will be a record year for the company. Just to review, Total revenue is expected in the range of $13,700,000,000 to $14,200,000,000 implying full year growth of approximately 20% at midpoint and pro form a growth of 12%. Within total revenue, I'll remind you that our used guidance is implied at $1,300,000,000 Our adjusted EBITDA range remains $6,600,000,000 to $6,850,000,000 On an as reported basis At midpoint, this implies roughly flat full year adjusted EBITDA margins and a flow through of around 48%.

Speaker 1

On a pro form a basis, however, which we think is the appropriate way to think about it, our guidance continues to imply about 80 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion It will flow through in the mid-50s. On the fleet side, our gross CapEx guidance remains $3,300,000,000 to $3,550,000,000 with net CapEx of $2,000,000,000 to $2,250,000,000 And finally, our free cash guidance is $2,100,000,000 to 2 point $35,000,000,000 which is before dividends, repurchases and bolt on M and A. So with that, let me turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. Operator, please open

Operator

the line. Our first question comes from Rob Wertheimer with Melius Research.

Speaker 2

Hi, thanks and good morning everybody.

Speaker 1

Hi, Rob.

Speaker 2

So my first question is basically And you gave a pretty good overview, but if we just leave aside the Dodge and all the surveys and everything and just think about what you're seeing on the ground and hearing from your customers. Are you seeing the mega project funding start to flow through? Are you seeing lots of activity in sort of quoting or proposals on loans? And does it give you any differential, I guess, versus other years look into supply demand as we move through the year? Does it continue to look tight?

Speaker 2

Does pricing continue to look well supported by supply demand dynamic as we go through

Speaker 3

the balance of the year.

Speaker 1

Sure, Rob. So I'll start with the demand portion. Whether it be The broad based demand that I discussed in the opening comments where every one of our business units geographically and now all of our Specialty businesses Show double digit growth in the quarter and that's a continued momentum from what we've been seeing for quite a while now. And all the verticals that we cover Remained positive in the quarter. There's actually one to be technically correct.

Speaker 1

Disaster and recovery was down a little bit, but that was coming off of 132% comp growth In the Q1 last year, and it's 1% of our business. So basically, all the verticals, all the geographies, all the product lines Remaining strong, very strong demand. So we feel good about that. And when I think about the supply demand dynamics, Partly driven by the mega projects, partly driven by the broad based demand I just talked about, we see it to be a very Structive market for continued strength for the industry overall, tacked along with the discipline. I mean, we're not going to get into the components of it, We feel good about rate.

Speaker 1

We feel good about the constructive environment and we feel good about being able to reaffirm our guidance because of that demand.

Speaker 2

Okay, perfect. So that's pretty responsive. And then just on GenRent gross margins, is that any Indication of rate versus cost balance or is that largely explained by Ahern coming in or other factors? And I'll stop there. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes, Rob, this is Ted. I'll take that one. That is the indication of the impact of Ahern. And just to be clear, that was in line with expectations. When you look Those margins, it reflects the fact that we bought a business that we knew had lower margins.

Speaker 1

As we integrate it, that's the effect you see.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Ted.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Rob.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Raso with Evercore ISI.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Yes, I think for most people the drag that Ahern brought to the reported numbers was a bit of a surprise, The magnitude of it and I'm just trying to get a sense of productivity going forward and I know the rate comp gets harder. But the improvement you would think you'd have around in Ahern and the smaller acquisition Abel, but particularly Ahern, can you tell us about Why the drag is that much and the implications for productivity the rest of the year? Can you improve that mix or whatever they're dragging on the reported numbers. And then I know you have the offset though of course the rate comp gets harder.

Speaker 4

I think we're all just trying to figure out In the reported numbers the whole year, is it going to be sub-two? Because the base case had been productivity would slow through the year. But now that we have a reported number of 2, I think we're just trying to figure out is productivity flat to down by the end of the year on

Speaker 1

a reported basis? Yes. So let me help you with this. First off, I will start by urging everybody look at the pro form a, right? That puts the Ahern base in there.

Speaker 1

That's how we manage the business. That's how we're taking that asset base, Putting the base of that into the base year that we're comparing to, so not having in that base year creates that disconnect of, let's call it, about 4 points. That 4 point gap between pro form a as reported, we believe will continue on and I'll just I'll try to explain it simply. If you think about The amount of capital that Ahern had that we're adding to the base year and the amount of revenue rent revenue they generated on it, it was about 40%, about $0.40 on every dollar. When you roll that into our experience, which is more like 60% On the dollar, that's that dilutive effect and we think it's going to be somewhere in that 4% gap between what we report as reported And what we report pro form a for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1

So that's just that baseline of what we add into the baseline is not going to change because it already happened. It's baseline. Now any improvement that we can get on those assets, that will show up in our improvement in our fleet productivity. As you all know, by this time, the egg scrambles, right? That's fleets In our overall business, we consolidate stores.

Speaker 1

We have one single go to market. So all that we consolidate customer statements that we're So that's all going to be in the improvement that we'll continue to report on as reported on pro form a basis. Does that explain that gap for you well enough, David?

Speaker 4

It does maybe for 1 quarter, but the idea that the gap has to be that wide throughout the year, you would think you'd be able to position the fleet, Sell off some inefficient fleet, maybe the rates they were getting now under your umbrella, you'd get better rates?

Speaker 1

But that wouldn't be added back in. But Ahern

Speaker 4

is about 10% of your fleet now, right? So it's not immaterial, but it's It's not a massive acquisition. I think the idea of the Q1 was the challenge of modeling a big acquisition coming in fine, But that the gap won't be able to close throughout the year is a bit interesting when you would think you'd be able to improve that drag, make it less.

Speaker 1

Over time, certainly, the idea is we will narrow the gap. I mean, that was part of the opportunity, right? We talk about being a better owner of assets, and it But it takes time, right? So certainly when we look at that kind of crude calculation of dollar yield, we don't think they'll be at 40% forever. Our intent is to get them Closer to something appropriate over time, but it will take time, and that's true of every acquisition.

Speaker 1

So Yes. So where we'll start to see improvements as we get time use better, as we get cross selling better, that's not all going to show up In that gap, right? It will create a little bit better pro form a, but it's all going to be mixed into your point, only 10% of our overall The real needle mover will be the improvement that we get on our own asset base, right in the other 90%. So we can walk through the math, but It's not going to be exactly 4, but it's going to be in the somewhere between 3.5% and 4% for the balance of the year is our expectation. And just to get Yes, sure.

Speaker 4

I was just going to ask, it's kind of worth trying to think about 2024 a little bit. You hear some of your suppliers having taking orders for 2024. People are curious about projects starting to hit the ground that have By no means am I asking for 2024 guidance, but I'm just trying to get a sense of when you went through your CapEx thoughts for the year, What you're hearing from suppliers business beyond 23. Can you give us a little color on kind of what you're sitting on right now when you think about 24 Projects, willingness to order earlier, working with kind of 3 year kind of conversations, which we haven't historically heard in the industry. I think they were just trying to figure out how to think about beyond 23.

Speaker 1

Yes. We think that the supply chain will get better Next year, so we don't think we'll need to pull forward as much as we did. You remember, we brought in probably 700 extra Q4 and another 400, let's say, extra in Q1. So we still feel that we needed to do that for this year. We're not expecting that Next year, what would change that if we started to see a lot of slippage throughout the peak season this year, then maybe we'd have to revisit with the vendors.

Speaker 1

But we think we'll get back to more normalized Talk about this in the end of the third quarter, 4th quarter type conversation making sure we're securing slots. Now we're talking to them all along, but as far as trying Put hard numbers down. We don't feel the supply chain will be in a position for us to have to do that today.

Speaker 4

On demand side as well though too, anything you can tell us about multiyear projects? How are we speaking about it or Yes, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Yes, I mean, there are projects I was at a couple of electric car plants just last month These are going to be multiyear projects that will require a lot of equipment. So not only do we see it in the reporting and in the starts, We expect, as I said in the opening remarks, a lot of these mega projects are going to be multiyear projects. We think infrastructure There's going to be a multiyear spend and we don't really think the IRA has even started to manifest. So that's all future Tailwinds. Ted, I don't know if you have anything to add.

Speaker 1

Yes, David, I think we talked about this at your conference to some degree, but certainly when we think about infrastructure as an example, right, at run rate that Legislation is intended to produce about $100,000,000,000 a year of infrastructure spend. We're still in that So obviously, we're not going to get anything close to that in 2023, but that provides a tailwind in 2024, right? So just to Dimensionalized numbers. If you thought that you got half of that spend in 2023, that's an incremental $50,000,000,000 of infrastructure. In the context of a $900,000,000,000 total non res construction market in the U.

Speaker 1

S, when you get to 2024, You get the second half of that as you get to an annualized run rate, right? And we thought about this logic across IRA, auto, And LNG is just kind of 5 key tailwinds. So certainly those are at a high level the tailwinds we think about. Coming back to the CapEx question, the visibility and the trajectory those will imply to 2024 will be critical to dictating How we think about CapEx in the back half of this year, because that will determine obviously how we want to have the fleet positioned. Not anything you'd add?

Speaker 1

Okay. No. Well, does that help David?

Speaker 4

Yes. I appreciate the time. I'll circle back with any further questions. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Dave.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Steven Fisher with UBS.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning. Wanted to just come back to the margins for a minute. So the rental gross margin drags from Ahern that we had in the quarter, how one time ish Would you say are those drags? In other words, as we model those gross margins year over year for the rest of the year, Is that still a reported year over year drag?

Speaker 1

Yes, it will be. And just as a reminder, if you look at their business, On an LTM basis, when we bought them, they had a reported EBITDA margin in the mid-30s. So obviously, that's considerably below where we were. Even synergized, they would be below that. So that will be an effect that lasts until we lap them.

Speaker 1

To put it in perspective, if you look at the gross margin reported down 170 year on year, Steve, on a pro form a basis, it was up 10 basis points. And that really dimensionalizes what that impact of Ahern was in the quarter. That will be a lasting effect as we kind of progress through 2023. And where you see that really specifically is in the rental, the GenRent segment gross margin. So does that help kind of answer the question?

Speaker 5

Yes, it does. But does that $170,000,000 kind of get smaller over the course of the year or that's a kind of a Steady 170.

Speaker 1

So certainly, yes, I mean, the big delta aside from the fact that it's lower margin as you get the synergies coming in, that's one thing to consider, We're talking about this in isolation.

Speaker 5

Right. Okay. So I guess then were there and you may have answered this before, but were there any other drags on gross margins outside of Ahern Like lower utilization or anything else?

Speaker 1

No. I mean if you isolate it, it's and there's always ebbs and Close to the cost, but it's really aherd. And where you can see that is if you look at the GenRent gross margin, right, that would go from, Let's say down 3 20 year on year to down 100 pro form a. The pro form a only includes Ahern in the year ago period, But there are other accounting adjustments, fair market value on the fleet as an example, that explain the majority of that 100 basis point pro form a number. Another, call it, shorter term one time expenses as we get the fleet in shape, as we get their facilities integrated, that really explain the difference.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then just one quick follow-up. How should we think about the cadence of used sales? Would you say it's more front end loaded because The prices are still good right now, but typical seasonality would suggest you would more be likely to So used equipment at the back end of the year, so how do we think about that cadence for the rest of the year?

Speaker 1

Yes. Your observation is right. When you think about the cadence, normally Q1 Q4 are larger, right, with 4th usually being the largest historically. We think we'll return to a more normalized cadence as we open up other channels as opposed to the last couple of years where we've been primarily retail. So think about a little bit less in 2 and 3 and then ramping it back up again in 4 as the fleet comes off ramp, right?

Speaker 1

It makes sense. Q1 and Q4, you're lower utilization period, so it's when you have the opportunity to sell the fleet a little easier.

Speaker 5

Perfect. Thank

Speaker 1

you. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jamie Cook with Credit Suisse.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. I guess just two follow-up questions. Just back on the margin again, Ted, when do you expect to get back

Speaker 1

to more normalized incremental margin in the mid-50s? Can we

Speaker 6

expect that sort of by incremental margin in the mid-50s. Can we expect that sort of by 2024 as we integrate Ahern? And then just my follow-up question. I know you're seeing broad based strength sort of everywhere. Is there any difference in the type Customer or the size of customer, maybe the larger customers are stronger just because they might have more visibility into some of these Larger infrastructure projects you're talking about.

Speaker 6

So anything on the customer side as well? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Sure. Matt, I'll take the first one, you'll take the second. Sure. So Jamie, on flow through, we look at things pro form a, as Matt mentioned. In the Q1, pro form a flow through 53%.

Speaker 1

We review that as right in line with the full year guidance in the mid-50s. And We don't give kind of sequential guidance or quarterly guidance, but certainly we remain very confident that the flow through is intact and As expected at the beginning of the year. So we don't view the Q1 as any deviation from that. And as we talk about Flow through and like many things, there's an ebb and flow. But we talk about targeting 50% to 60% flow through across the course of the cycle.

Speaker 1

And at some points, you're going to be at the upper end of that band and some in the lower, but we think this is right in the middle of the fairway of where you want to be in the growth phase of the cycle. So, yes, and it's consistent with the guidance that we just reaffirmed. So Yes. But we view this as very healthy kind of bolster, if you will. And then as far as on the customer side, a little bit more Skewed towards larger customers, which is in our wheelhouse, but overall the demand is coming, probably the preplanning because of the size of some of these projects.

Speaker 1

We're And more conversations throughout the Q1 and continue today and even the Q4 last year about making sure we're ramped up for their needs Because it's one of the reasons why we feel that the larger companies are going to fare well from this megapot project trend because you really have to have the resources and fleet, People and capabilities to be ready for these big jobs. And those are more of the conversations that we're having. So a little bit More skewed towards our larger accounts, which as you all know is a big part of our business. Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question will come from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 7

Yes. Hi, good morning everyone.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Jack. Hey, Jerry.

Speaker 7

Slide 34 in your slide deck is pretty interesting. So your Margins have been above 45% for the past decade through a range of economic environments. And I'm wondering if you could Talk about what's your level of confidence that you can maintain above 45% margins in the next down Obviously, different views on the macro out there, whether it's 2 quarters from now, a year from now, 2 years from now. Can you maintain that level of performance you've had over the past decade in the downturn.

Speaker 1

So I guess what I'd say is we feel very confident about the profitability of the business And that this is a structural gain. In terms of what the business would do in a downturn, it's critical to dimensionalize what kind of downturn you're talking about For multiple reasons, including that will dictate the actions you take. I think if you look at the performance we had during COVID, in the face of a percent decline in rental revenue, we had 50 basis points of margin compression, EBITDA margin. So in that kind of scenario, you've seen what we can do when we lean hard on costs. So I guess what I'd say is we feel very confident that the structural improvement, call it 1500 to 2000 basis points It's absolutely sustainable.

Speaker 1

In terms of giving kind of a threshold of where you would get, that's harder to say simply because it is assumptive. I would also just remind people when you look at the margins, what we've done actually understates what the core business has done. Matt and I talk about this a lot, but If you were to back out the acquisitions we've done since 2014, our EBITDA margin would be in the 51% to 52% range. So we've integrated those businesses. They've benefited us strategically.

Speaker 1

Financially, they've been home runs from a returns perspective and the benefits they've Delivered to the shareholders frankly, but they have been dilutive to margins as we've always talked about when we've done them. So I bring that up only because I think when you look at that chart, Jerry, and it's a great chart, it does even understate how strong the profitability improvement has been in the core business. Matt, anything you'd add there? No, you said it well. That's the only thing I would have added.

Speaker 7

And Ted, can I just pull on that M and A part of the Can you talk about what the specialty pipeline looks like for you folks? Any interesting meaningful opportunities to Structurally increased specialty as a percent of total from here based on the types of businesses you're looking at?

Speaker 1

Yes. I mean after 24% organic Growth, they might not need it, but we are still looking and we'll lean towards anything that is a new product offering as our first filter. But even creating some scale and filling out the coverage model for some of the businesses is an opportunity. We continue to look at a pretty robust pipeline, but as you can see, it takes a lot to get one over the transom That doesn't mean we're not working the pipeline. So we don't really have anything imminent and there's certainly I think that we would discuss on open mic, but we do continue to look.

Speaker 1

We believe it's a strength of ours. We believe M and A and integrating the M and A more importantly And cross selling products is a real opportunity for us. So we'll continue to work that pipeline, Jerry.

Speaker 7

I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jerry.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Seth Weber with Wells Fargo.

Speaker 3

Hey, guys. Good morning. I was hoping maybe just to talk a little bit about how you think about the interplay between Your model is shifting more towards these bigger customers and longer term contracts. How you think about the impact? How we should be thinking about the impact on, I guess both gross margin and EBITDA margin, I assume rate is a little bit more competitive, but maybe there's maybe you pick up some of the Margin on the back end with less dropping off equipment picking up, what have you, less maintenance or whatever.

Speaker 3

How are you guys thinking about longer term margins with this interplay towards more bigger customers, longer term projects? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Sure. As you can see in our guidance, we're not planning on a lot of variability in there at all. And part of it is because of the point you just made. Yes, your largest customers are going to get a little bit better pricing relative to your spot pricing. But if we can put one $100,000,000 on a project and service it with a couple of techs and its long term rentals, so high utilization rates.

Speaker 1

That's going to come in at a lower cost to serve, whether I have to $1,000,000 per smaller job over across 100 different jobs, right? So just the logistics, everything, a little bit lower cost to serve. And that Balances out to we're not expecting any meaningful change in the margin profile, whether it be gross margin or EBITDA margin.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks, Matt. And then maybe Ted or Matt, your leverage is Below the low end of your range, the stock is obviously under pressure here. Is there any updated thoughts as Shushar Abay back, I know you addressed it in the press release that you're going to complete the $1,000,000,000 this year, but is there any Incremental message that you would add on capital allocation towards that?

Speaker 1

I guess the thing I'd say is we have consistently been a very comfortable and consistent buyer of our stock. So we feel very good about that philosophically. From the standpoint of changing our strategy, it's certainly not something that we were contemplating at this point. We've consistently been kind of a believer in dollar cost averaging systematic execution. So you saw us buyback $250,000,000 in the quarter, obviously exactly 1 quarter of the full year in 2010.

Speaker 1

So we have not We've been tactical. Some people call it opportunistic. We think that it served us well. And we think frankly when you Most of these studies on the most effective way to execute buybacks, this is the right strategy.

Speaker 3

That's helpful guys. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ken Newman with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning guys. Good morning, Ken. Good morning. Most of my questions have been asked, but maybe just a couple of quick ones here. Sorry if I missed this, Ted, but did you talk about where the internal customer survey Ended up moving this quarter versus last.

Speaker 1

So we don't get too specific on it, but I will say that it remains very encouraging. Customer confidence is not showing any deviation in the last number of weeks or months. So, yes, we've gotten this question and certainly people have obviously wondered about what's happened since some of the issues with small banks, etcetera. I

Speaker 8

And then I know you've talked a little bit about return on invested capital and that continuing to improve. Maybe this is more of a conversation for when you do your Investor Day, but any kind of broad thoughts on how you think about driving That number up over the longer term and what are the levers you can pull, especially as you kind of work through some of these margin impacts on Ahern?

Speaker 1

Yes. No, it's something we talk about as leadership team often. So really when we think about it and there are a lot of different ways to decompose returns, but you've got margins We think we can continue to drive improving margins for the business. We talked about targeting 50% to 60% flow through. If and as you do that, that is naturally accretive to your margins.

Speaker 1

On the capital velocity side, there are a lot of different ways we try to improve this, but obviously we task ourselves with driving Higher fleet productivity is Matt's thoughts about it, proving dollar yield. That is another way to think about capital turnover. And so, yes, it is Our expectation that we should continue to drive higher margins and higher returns over time. Anything you'd add? No, no.

Speaker 1

Just once again, it's embedded in our guidance. If you look at our guidance, we're not expecting to not be able to overcome that. Yes. I think that answers the question.

Speaker 8

Yes. Maybe one last one if I could just squeeze it in. Relative to the proceeds on OEC for fleet sales that's implied for the full year, Can you just remind us where did proceeds this quarter end up and what kind of embedded the midpoint of the guide for the full year?

Speaker 1

So for the quarter, 71.5 percent, I think we sold $543,000,000 of OEC, proceeds were 388 In terms of the full year guide, we continue to expect to sell about $2,000,000,000 of OEC. We continue to expect to generate about 1,300,000,000 Proceeds. So that would translate to about $0.65 on the dollar. As we talked about in January and those are unchanged since January. As we get into the year and you talk about increasing the volume of used, we will lean on other channels that we didn't lean on in 2022, Wholesale, most specifically.

Speaker 1

Those are not as efficient means of recycling capital, but we'll lean on them. And as we introduce Ahern sales that will also have an effect. So that's what's kind of contemplated in that 55% versus 71%. I guess what I'd say in the Q1, I think very indicative of strength, right? We got $0.715 on the dollar Selling 92 month old equipment, which and frankly a lot more of it, which speaks, as Matt said, to the demand for this equipment, which we think So I don't know if that helps, but those are some of the perspectives we'd share.

Speaker 1

Yes, that's helpful. Appreciate it. Thanks, Ken.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Neil Tyler with Redburn.

Speaker 9

Yes, thank you. Good morning. Couple from me, please. Firstly, back to the end market and customer mix and Understandably, the component of the nonresidential market that tends to be at the eye of the store makes things slow down is So the housing commercial real estate, are you able to frame just even in very broad terms how much Of your current base business, those sorts of projects in lodging offices, physical retail, those might comprise. That's the first question.

Speaker 9

And then I wondered if you could talk a little bit in some more detail or give some examples around Ahern and the integration, I know it's early days, but some insight into how you're how, if at all, you're altering So the commercial practices at that company, you talked about sort of branch consolidation and the like, but if you could fill in some of the gaps there, that would be Very much appreciated. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Sure. I'll take the Ahern part of that and then Ted can backfill in with some of the exposure to commercial and Specifically, office, I think is probably one of the areas people are most thinking about, which I'll foreshadow as much. But when we think about the Ahern integration, As I said in the prepared remarks, on track. And I'll remind everybody, this deal is all about capacity and capacity in fleet, Real Estate and People. We're right on track with the fleet in real estate, working through that.

Speaker 1

We've got the plans on how we're going to Consolidate the go to market into one go to market and in few instances that means repurposing some of the real estate to support Some of the 40 cold starts that we're talking about. So we still have capacity even where we're consolidating in a market because one of our stores had Plenty of capacity to consolidate into, we're utilizing that other real estate to help grow some of the specialty business. So That's from the real estate perspective. The fleet we've talked about already, we'll continue to work towards making that fleet look more like ours, work towards that And probably move some of the older stuff out as we go through the year, and that was Ted's point about opening other channels. The people side has been a real positive surprise.

Speaker 1

We always had the hope that we'd be able to do well with people, that they'd integrate into our organization well and that's exceeded our expectation. And They have quite a bit higher turnover in that business standalone and we're glad to see that we remedied that, made that turnover level look like ours, More like ours, which is really, really the important part of that. And once again, that final piece of capacity that's we're very, very pleased with. Yes, Neil, and I'll take the other piece. So just to try to dimensionalize it, I'm going to use the Census Bureau's Construction put in place data.

Speaker 1

We don't track verticals as granularly as you're asking. So it's a little easier to talk about it in the context of Government data. But on that basis, if you looked at what is defined as total commercial, which is a very broad segment, it would be about 12% of total non res, About $110,000,000,000 out of the $900,000,000,000 market. And office would be a separate vertical, which is about $75,000,000,000 or about 8%. So that would dimensionalize it.

Speaker 1

It's about 20%. Now that runs the entire gamut from office buildings, as I mentioned, the grocery stores, gas stations, etcetera, etcetera. I do think it's important to add other context to that. If you look at manufacturing, manufacturing is also $110,000,000,000 market, about 12% of the total. Power is $100,000,000,000 itself, that's 11%.

Speaker 1

And public is a $355,000,000,000 market, Which is 40%. So when you think about these areas that I think people have some concerns compared to the areas where we've talked about seeing a lot of multiyear Economically insulated relatively insulated opportunity, that's where that's what drives a lot of our optimism is when we look at kind of, As I said, manufacturing, power, public, that is over 60% of total construction and areas that you're asking about are, call it 20.

Speaker 8

That's really helpful. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. At this Time, I'll turn the floor back over to Matt Flannery for any additional or closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thanks, operator. And that wraps it up for today. I want to thank everyone for joining us. And we look forward to our Investor Day in about 6 weeks and speaking with you all again in late July. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Ted at any time.

Speaker 1

Operator, you can now end the call.

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