NYSE:CCI Crown Castle Q4 2021 Earnings Report $73.74 +0.53 (+0.72%) As of 01:15 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Crown Castle EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.81Consensus EPS $0.77Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPS$2.33Crown Castle Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.65 billionExpected Revenue$1.63 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$24.81 millionYoY Revenue Growth+10.80%Crown Castle Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2021Date1/25/2022TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, January 26, 2022Conference Call Time7:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCrown Castle's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, October 21, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Crown Castle Q4 2021 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 26, 2022ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Crown Castle delivered 14% AFFO per share growth in 2021 with an 11% dividend hike, powered by record tower activity (35% surge in core tower leasing) and 8% site rental revenue growth. Secured commitments for over 50,000 new small cell nodes—70% of all small cells booked pre-2021—and now has more than 60,000 contracted nodes in backlog, setting the stage to double annual deployments to 10,000+ in 2023. Entered a 12-year agreement with T-Mobile adding $250 million of straight-line tower revenues and 35,000 small cell commitments over five years, while triggering about $200 million of tower churn in 2025 and $55 million of small cell and fiber non-renewals in earlier years. For 2022, the company forecasts $235 million–$275 million of organic site rental revenue growth, comprised of ~5.5% from towers, 4.5% from small cells and 3% from fiber solutions, aiming to sustain the industry’s highest U.S. tower revenue growth and support 7–8% annual dividend growth. Maintained a strong balance sheet at ~5× debt/EBITDA with a 9-year weighted average debt maturity and ~3.1% borrowing cost, while advancing toward carbon neutrality for Scope 1 & 2 emissions by 2025 via 60% renewable electricity sourcing. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCrown Castle Q4 202100:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:02:13Good day, and welcome to the Crown Castle Q4 2021 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance, Ben Lowe. Please go ahead, sir. Ben LoweSVP of Corporate Finance at Crown Castle00:02:30Great. Thank you, Paula, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today as we discuss our fourth quarter 2021 results. With me on the call this morning are Jay Brown, Crown Castle's Chief Executive Officer, and Dan Schlanger, Crown Castle's Chief Financial Officer. To aid the discussion, we have posted supplemental materials in the investor section of our website at crowncastle.com that will be referenced throughout the call this morning. This conference call will contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, and the actual results may vary materially from those expected. Information about potential factors which could affect our results is available in the press release and the risk factor sections of the company's SEC filings. Our statements are made as of today, January 27th, 2022, and we assume no obligations to update any forward-looking statements. Ben LoweSVP of Corporate Finance at Crown Castle00:03:20In addition, today's call includes discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Tables reconciling these non-GAAP financial measures are available in the supplemental information package in the Investor section of the company's website at crowncastle.com. With that, let me turn the call over to Jay. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:03:36Thanks, Ben, and thank you everyone for joining us on the call this morning. As you saw from our results last night, 2021 was a tremendous year for Crown Castle. We delivered 14% AFFO per share growth. We grew our common stock dividend by 11%. We benefited from the highest level of tower application volume in our history, resulting in a 35% increase in core tower leasing activity and a 6% organic growth, leading the industry by a wide margin. We saw an inflection in the demand for small cells, securing commitments for more than 50,000 new small cells during the last 12 months, which is equal to 70% of the total small cells booked in our history prior to 2021. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:04:20We entered into a new 12-year agreement with T-Mobile that provides committed long-term tower revenue growth, and we made significant progress toward our goal to achieve carbon neutrality for scope one and two emissions by 2025 as we successfully sourced 60% of the total electricity we expect to consume this year from renewable sources. These results reflect the positive fundamentals underpinning our U.S.-centric business as our customers are busy upgrading and deploying their nationwide 5G networks, resulting in robust activity across our towers and small cells from new installations and amendments. As we start 2022, we expect elevated levels of tower leasing to continue this year and anticipate leading the industry once again with the highest U.S. tower revenue growth, supporting our announced 11% dividend increase, which is well above our 7%-8% target. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:05:18Our customers are also committing to the next phase of their 5G build-out that will require the deployment of small cells at scale to increase the capacity and density of their networks as more spectrum deployed across existing macro towers is not sufficient to keep up with the growth in mobile data demand. With that in mind, I believe 2022 will be an important transition year for our small cells and fiber business as we prepare to accelerate our deployment of small cells from the approximately 5,000 nodes this year to what we expect will be more than 10,000 beginning in 2023. Dan will cover the financial results for 2021 and our updated expectations for 2022 in a bit more detail. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:06:02I'm gonna focus my comments on our strategy to create significant shareholder value by providing profitable solutions to connect communities and people to each other. We are focused on delivering the highest risk-adjusted returns for our shareholders by investing in shared infrastructure assets that lower implementation and operating costs for our customers while generating solid returns for our shareholders. As a result, we continue to solely invest in the U.S. market because we believe it represents the best market for wireless infrastructure ownership with the most attractive growth profile and the lowest risk. Over the last 25 years, the performance of our tower assets has proven the value of this strategy. We began investing at approximately 3% yield, and today, those assets now yield more than 11%. We are building value from this strategy again with our small cell and fiber business. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:06:59Since the beginning of our small cells and fiber strategy, investors have had two primary questions. Would small cells be required at scale, and would customers co-locate on the same assets to drive attractive returns? Today, I believe these questions have been answered. At a time when our customers have been upgrading a record number of our tower sites for 5G, we secured commitments for more than 50,000 new small cell nodes. This is in addition to the 55,000 small cell nodes we have on air today. Importantly, a significant portion of the 50,000 new nodes will be co-located on existing fiber assets at attractive returns. Clearly, we have very positive answers to these key questions. Small cells are required at scale and will be co-located on existing assets. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:07:51As these small cells are deployed, they will contribute to improved network performance, which history has taught us will attract additional small cells as carriers compete on network quality. This dynamic is similar to our tower experience, where a significant driver of the value created has been from carriers deploying more spectrum on existing towers to keep pace with mobile data demand growth. As a result, I believe this is just the starting point for total small cells needed by wireless networks. This view is further supported by recent work completed for us by third-party experts that predict a long-term environment where small cells accelerate. As the clear leader in small cells, we are uniquely positioned to benefit from this growth. The advancement of our small cell strategy continues to remind me of our journey as the U.S. tower industry developed, ultimately creating significant value for shareholders. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:08:47Although it's easy to forget, there was significant investor skepticism during the early years when we were proving out the tower business. During that time, we faced questions about the long-term return potential of the business, the negative free cash flow profile, and when or if ever it would inflect, and whether we would ever see customers co-locate on the same assets since each carrier had different spectrum portfolios and unique network requirements. Those questions were eventually all answered for U.S. Towers. Oftentimes, the turning points in the business that addressed those questions only became widely accepted after the fact. I see a similar pattern with our small cell business. I'm convinced that this period is one of the most important proof points for the small cell business model. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:09:35We have more than $15 billion invested in more than 80,000 route miles of high-capacity fiber connecting 55,000 small cells that are on air and concentrated in the top U.S. market. The weighted average life of this capital is less than five years and already yields nearly 8%. Following the recent commitments for small cells, we have more than 60,000 contracted small cell nodes in our backlog, including a record number of co-location nodes that we expect will increase the overall yield on our invested capital. This sets us on a course to accelerate growth in our small cell business beginning in 2023 as we expect to deploy more than 10,000 small cell nodes next year with the potential to scale from there. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:10:23We also continue to see opportunities to add to the returns we are generating from small cells by leveraging the same shared fiber assets to pursue profitable fiber solutions growth. We remain disciplined as we allocate capital to these opportunities with decisions driven by return targets, consistent with how we've executed our fiber strategy from the start by focusing on small cells as the key driver of long-term value creation. To wrap up, we had a terrific 2021. We expect to once again lead the industry with the highest U.S. tower revenue growth in 2022, and we see the recent large-scale small cell commitments as the beginning of a thematic move in the deployment of future wireless networks, for which we are well positioned as the clear leader. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:11:12I believe our strategy, capabilities, and unmatched portfolio of more than 40,000 towers and more than 80,000 route miles of fiber concentrated in the top U.S. market put Crown Castle in the best position to capitalize on the current environment and to grow our cash flows and our dividends per share, both in the near term and for years to come. Because of our position, Crown Castle provides an excellent opportunity for shareholders to invest in the development of 5G in the U.S., which we believe is the best market for communications infrastructure ownership with its attractive growth and low risk profile. Importantly, we provide this access to such attractive industry dynamics while delivering a compelling total return opportunity comprised of a high-quality dividend that's currently yielding over 3% with expected growth in that dividend of 7%-8% annually. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:12:06With that, I'll turn the call over to Dan. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:12:09Thanks, Jay, and good morning, everyone. As Jay discussed, 2021 was a great year for Crown Castle, and we expect the momentum to continue in 2022 as 5G deployments continue at scale. With our comprehensive comprehensive offering of towers, small cells and fiber solutions, we're able to support our customers expanding infrastructure needs as network architecture evolves. Turning to slide four of the presentation, full year 2021 results exceeded our prior expectations, with site rental revenues increasing 8%, adjusted EBITDA increasing 12%, and AFFO per share increasing 14% when compared to full year 2020 results, excluding non-typical items. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:12:52Some of the outperformance in 2021 was due to approximately $10 million of additional site rental revenues, $10 million of additional expense reductions, and lower than expected sustaining capital expenditures, the majority of which we do not believe will recur in 2022. The 8% year-over-year growth in site rental revenues included approximately 6% growth in organic contribution to site rental revenues, consisting of approximately 6% growth from towers, 10% growth from small cells, and 3.5% growth from fiber solutions. Turning to page five, we have increased our full year 2022 outlook to reflect the additional $250 million of straight line revenues associated with the long-term agreement with T-Mobile that we announced earlier this month. Other than these additional straight line revenues, our 2022 outlook is unchanged. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:13:42These additional straight line revenues reflect the significant additional contracted tower revenue growth that comes with the new agreement, but they do not contribute to 2022 AFFO. In addition to the contracted tower revenue growth, the agreement with T-Mobile includes a contractual commitment for 35,000 new small cell nodes over the next five years. The agreement with T-Mobile also results in several events related to the decommissioning of the Sprint network, including tower non-renewals that are expected to reduce site rental revenues by approximately $200 million in 2025, small cell non-renewals that we expect to reduce site rental revenues by approximately $45 million, with the majority occurring in 2023, and approximately $10 million of additional fiber solutions non-renewals in 2022. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:14:28Importantly, except for these discrete events, we expect consolidated annual tower and small cell non-renewals to remain within our historical range of 1%-2%. Turning to page six, we now expect growth in the organic contribution to site rental revenues in 2022 of $235 million-$275 million. The reduction in the expected growth in organic contribution to site rental revenues compared to our prior 2022 outlook announced in October reflects the impact from the $10 million of non-recurring revenue that contributed to fourth quarter 2021 results, while our 2022 outlook remains unchanged. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:15:08We expect we will generate 4.5% consolidated growth in 2022, consisting of approximately 5.5% from towers, which we believe will be the highest U.S. tower growth rate in the industry again this year, 4.5% from small cells and 3% from fiber solutions. As many of you may be aware, in our third quarter 2021 earnings release, we broke down our organic growth to show total new leasing, growth in prepaid rent amortization, and a new concept we call core new leasing, which excludes the impact of prepaid rent amortization. Based on feedback we've received since adding core leasing activity to our disclosures, starting with our first quarter earnings release, we will speak to organic growth exclusive of the impact of prepaid rent amortization or what we'll call core organic growth. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:15:56This presentation provides information investors can use to analyze our performance that we believe, and we've been told, is more consistent with other companies in our industry. As I have mentioned, and you can see on page seven, the majority of the outperformance in our 2021 AFFO is not expected to recur in 2022, and therefore impacts year-over-year growth despite no changes to our 2022 AFFO expectations. Turning now to our balance sheet, we finished the year with approximately 5x debt to EBITDA on a last quarter annualized basis, in line with our leverage target. During 2021, we improved our balance sheet by extending the weighted average maturity to nine years and reducing the average borrowing cost to approximately 3.1%. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:16:41Part of why we've extended our debt maturities and emphasized fixed as opposed to floating rate debt was to protect our ability to grow our dividends even during periods of increasing interest rates. We believe we have done exactly that, which is another example of our focus on driving the highest risk-adjusted returns for our shareholders. Looking forward, we expect our discretionary capital expenditures to begin to trend higher as we accelerate the pace of small cell deployments. With a record level of co-location nodes in our backlog, which require less capital relative to anchor builds, we expect to be able to fund this higher level of investment with free cash flow and incremental debt capacity while maintaining our investment grade credit profile. To wrap up, 2021 was a great year for us, with record tower activity driving significant financial outperformance. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:17:31After leading the industry in 2021, we expect to again generate the highest U.S. tower growth in the industry in 2022, with core tower leasing activity approximately 50% higher than our trailing five-year average. Over the past 12 months, we have booked over 50,000 small cell nodes, equal to almost 70% of the nodes we had booked in our history prior to 2021. We see this as an inflection in the demand for small cells and expect to accelerate growth in our fiber segment in 2022 and beyond. Longer term, we believe we are strategically positioned to benefit from all phases of the 5G build-out with our comprehensive infrastructure offering that provides us the best opportunity to consistently deliver dividend growth as wireless network architecture evolves and our customers' priorities shift over time. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:18:20With that, Paula, I'd like to open the call to questions. Operator00:18:23Thank you. To signal for a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Also, if you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute button is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, it is star one at this time for questions, and we'll pause for just a moment. Our first question will come from Michael Rollins with Citi. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:18:49Thanks, and good morning. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:18:51Morning, Michael. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:18:53A couple questions if I could. You know, first, on the tower side, I'm curious, given the comments you made about leasing activity, if you could frame the backlog on the tower side that Crown is carrying into 2022, and maybe give us a sense as you look at what the carriers are doing, how much of their footprints are covered by the bookings and the billings, that you've recognized to date and what might be on the come. Then just, separately on small cells, if I could just ask one other question. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:19:26Given the comments about the ramping small cell demand that you've highlighted over the last few months, does it make you wanna take a more expansive strategy to add fiber outside of maybe that top 25-30 markets that you've been historically focused on and be prepared for a more expansive small cell deployment cycle from your customers? Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:19:52You bet. On your first question around the backlog in towers, obviously as we spoke to, we had the highest level of activity in the company's history during 2021, and we're expecting that level of activity to continue into 2022. If you frame it in terms of historical context, what's really unique about this cycle is that we've got four carriers deploying. You've got AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and DISH all deploying network. They've got significant amount of spectrum to be deployed, and they have the capital to be able to deploy that. I can't think of another time in history of our business where we've got four well-capitalized carriers with spectrum and a desire to deploy network. We're certainly riding the wave of that. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:20:38In terms of what they're touching, similar to past upgrade cycles, the focus for the three legacy carriers is to touch the sites where they're already existing on the assets, on the macro assets. We would expect the next phase of 5G build-out will be to densify their network. We expect that some portion of that densification is gonna happen through new installations on towers that they're not located on. A big part of that, we see that happening in terms of small cells and the 50,000 nodes that we booked over the last 12 months. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:21:17The commitments from them, I think, really just speak to that as that second phase of network deployment as they start to try to densify the network, and the need there is gonna be both macro sites as well as significantly needing a lot of small cells in order to do it. In terms of the footprint being touched, they're gonna touch, you know, virtually all of their existing sites as they upgrade through 5G, and that'll take a few years to happen. Feel good about the activity that we're gonna see again in 2022, and then as we get to periods beyond that, we'll update you as we get later into the year and give our guidance in October later this year. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:21:56On your second question around the activity for fiber, you know, we've been focused on building and owning high-capacity fiber in dense urban areas in the top U.S. markets. Our strategy has been based on our view that as data demand grows, it will grow most significantly in the densely populated areas of the U.S., and those are the areas where macro sites, in particular, won't be able to handle all of the network capacity that's gonna be created. I think as a general rule, you're gonna continue to see our investments focused in those top markets. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:22:36There are gonna be some markets outside of the top 25, top 30 markets, where we will go and build nodes for our carrier customer, but we wouldn't do that on a speculative basis. To the extent that one of our customers has a market, we assess that market as having good, attractive economics at an entry point similar to what we've talked about our return thresholds have been, and we see lease up from other carriers who are gonna need those same areas, then we would be open to expanding that. I think you're gonna see the concentration of the capital as well as, frankly, the activity from the carriers be really focused on those top U.S. markets. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:23:16Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:23:17You bet. Operator00:23:19Moving on, we'll go to Simon Flannery with Morgan Stanley. Simon FlanneryManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:23:25Great. Thank you very much. Good morning. I want to talk about M&A, if I could, for a little. You've been fairly quiet in terms of your activity over the last couple of years here. I know you've talked in the past about interest in developed markets. There's a lot of activity in Europe, so perhaps you could just update us on that. Then the other would be on ground leases. It looked like it was a fairly quiet year in terms of extending and purchasing ground leases, so any color there on perhaps being able to continue to own more and push the maturities out. Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:23:57Sure. Good morning, Simon. On your first question around M&A and how we think about this, core to the business around towers and small cells is certainly our focus and really don't see anything outside of our core business of towers and small cells that would be of any interest to us. Around what markets to be in, I mentioned this a couple of times in my comments. We look at the U.S. market as the most attractive market in the world for investment in the kind of infrastructure that we wanna own. We think the growth profile is most attractive here, and we also think the risk is the lowest. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:24:35As we've assessed both developing markets as well as developed countries, we don't see those two characteristics exist in the markets. We've stayed solely focused on the U.S. We continue to watch what's developing in the world and to see if maybe our calculus and our view would change over time with some characteristics. Based on the work that we've seen to date, we just haven't seen anything that's attractive to us. Frankly, we're really excited about the opportunity to put capital to work and continue to invest in the U.S. market because it does have that low risk and high growth. We see that growth continuing unabated for a long period of time. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:25:16Really excited about the opportunity in the U.S., and think we have plenty of places to put capital to work here in the U.S. On the second question around ground leases, now this has been an initiative we've been at for about 15 years. Our average ground leases are well over 30 years remaining on them on average. As we look at the ground underneath our assets, we're focused on both extending the leases to the extent that they start to get inside of the kind of a 10- to 20-year period of time. Where it makes sense to bring those leases on balance sheet in the form of an acquisition, we're certainly open to doing that. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:25:54At different points in time as the markets move around, we get opportunities that arise, and we'll continue to do that. Given the maturity of the portfolio, there's not really any pressure on us to feel like we need to put capital to work to buy ground leases. We'll do it. It's opportunistic when the financial returns make sense. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:26:14Yeah. Just to add to the maturity of the portfolio point there, Simon, over 80% of our leases are either owned or greater than 20 years, and the average life of the leases that are not owned is over 35 years. As Jay mentioned, there's just no pressure for us to do anything unless the financial returns make sense at this point. David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:26:34Great. Thanks a lot. Operator00:26:38Next, we'll go to David Barden with Bank of America. David BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:26:44Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the questions. I guess just two. The first would be, you know, just over the last couple days, you know, we've heard new news, to a degree from Verizon pulling forward, accelerating, their C-band build, with extra capital, you know, getting in the hands of, Crown Castle. Then T-Mobile at the same time, kind of pushing back their build-out with respect to waiting for 110, to do a one tower climb. I just wanted to kind of see how that lined up with what you were expecting for the year and how you set your guidance, et cetera. Then I guess the second question, for the T-Mobile deal in terms of the non-renewals, how do those non-renewals manifest themselves? David BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:27:28Is it a hot cut on January 1? Does it happen ratably over the course of the year? Specifically with respect to the $10 million we're losing in fiber in 2022. Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:27:39You bet. Good morning, Dave. On your first question, I would just without being really specific about individual carriers. I think the activity, as I spoke to a minute ago, that we saw in 2021 and expect to carry into 2022, we haven't seen anything that would cause us to look at our guidance and have to shift our expected growth and revenues. We have pretty good visibility, as you know, pretty good visibility into what their deployment plans are. To the extent that they start to adjust those plans, we're probably six to nine months away from seeing any impact in what we do. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:28:24If there is a movement upward, it would push it pretty late into this year and wouldn't have a real meaningful result impact on our results in calendar year 2022. It probably more portends what's gonna impact as we start to think about site rental revenue growth going into 2023. We'll continue to watch it and be responsive as they work on their 5G networks. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:28:49Yeah. David, to speak to the non-renewal point, as we talked about when we announced the agreement, on the tower side, we think it's gonna be a $200 million impact to 2025, which you can assume happens the first of the year and is $200 million through the course of the year. It's all of that. On the small cell side, it's a similar portion. It's about $45 million, the majority of which is in 2023. Again, you can just assume that happens at the beginning of the year and impacts the entire year. The $10 million is a Fiber Solutions turn in 2022, an impact of again $10 million to the total revenue in 2022. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:29:27I think you can for modeling purposes and how you think about it, just assume that happens on January 1st, and it impacts revenues negatively by $10 million. David BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:36Okay, great. Thanks for the help, guys. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:29:39Yep. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:29:39You bet. Operator00:29:41Next, we'll go to Nick Del Deo with MoffettNathanson. Nick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathanson00:29:46Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. You know, first one for Dan. You know, it looks like your cash tower cost of service is up about 9% year-over-year in the quarter. It was up about 7% last quarter. You know, in the past, it's been pretty muted. You know, looking at unallocated G&A in the quarter, it was kinda higher than it's been before, too. You know, maybe talk a little bit about what's behind that cost growth and how we should think about the trajectory from here. And then I have a follow-up. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:30:12Yeah. If you look at year-over-year, it's relatively stable, so it's just when costs come in and what happens on a quarter-to-quarter basis. I would think that when you think about the cost structure, especially in our tower business, it's pretty stable over a long period of time. I would just ask that when you look into it, Nick, look at the year-over-year growth as opposed to any quarter-over-quarter moves. That probably is more indicative of what's gonna happen through the course of long periods of time, including in our 2022 guidance. Nick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathanson00:30:41Okay. Nothing unusual going on there to call out. Yeah, I guess the second one on small cells, you know, kind of thinking about the T-Mobile and Verizon deals, do they presumably structure those deals to cover their anticipated needs for the foreseeable future? You're kind of thinking about the cadence of signings going forward from customers with long-term deals like those, is it appropriate to think that it might be several years before they come back to do more with you in kind of a feast or famine outlook? Are there reasons to think that they might come back to the well more, you know, on a more regular basis, you know, before those deals conclude? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:31:18Yeah, Nick. I would say, you know, to frame in that, I would think about two things. The first thing I would think about is the 50,000 node commitment that we received is a hard contractual commitment. So there's been a balance whenever the carrier, we're working with the carriers around contracted future leasing activity, whether it's on towers for amendments or new installations, or in the case of small cells, we're not gonna get 100% of what they think they're gonna build contracted and committed that early. So I wouldn't, we don't view this and don't think this is a 100% of everything they're gonna need or contract for 'cause they're just not gonna make that level of commitment. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:32:02The second thing that I think is when I think about your question is the amount of and scale of the commitment relative to historical activity is really, frankly astonishing. We've said this a couple of different times, but we've been at this for 10 years. We've got 50,000 nodes on air, and in the last 12 months we've gotten 50,000 node commitment. It feels to us like this is a very significant turning point. I think that turning point and the commitment from the carriers, while we think about it in terms of, and in my comments, I talked about the return elements, the revenue growth elements, and why it's important there. The other aspect of this is how difficult these are to build, I think is very well understood by our carrier customers. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:32:54There's an element to this of the carriers know they're gonna need the sites, and unlike towers, where we can get them on air in six months, there has to be significant planning that goes into this, and they recognize the difficulty of it, which I think is really the value proposition that we bring to the table of an ability to deliver these nodes and implement. It's really a statement of confidence also in our operating ability, in addition to the macro elements of what's needed in order to make their networks work. I think the combination of those two things is just really compelling. Nick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathanson00:33:29Okay. Great. That's helpful. Thanks, Jay. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:33:31You bet. Operator00:33:35Moving on, we'll go to Jon Atkin with RBC Capital Markets. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:33:41Thanks. I noticed that the cash yield on invested capital showed a nice sequential increase during Q4 for fiber. Can you speak a little bit as to what drove that? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:33:57Yeah, John. A couple of things drove it. One is just performance in the business as we continue to add more revenue to existing fiber, both through fiber solutions and co-locating small cells on the assets we already own. So I think part of that is just the continuation and proof that this business does generate incremental returns that add to the overall yields. I think there was a little bit of it when we called out some expense reductions in the fourth quarter that we didn't expect. Those hit on the fiber side and therefore increased the gross margin and ultimately the yield because that calculation is in last quarter annualized, so we got the benefit of that kinda one-time $10 million reduction in expenses. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:34:50Some of it's from that too, but the majority of the increase in the yield is because the business is just performing well and we're increasing the revenue and returns on the assets that we already own. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:35:01On the tower side, it was in the low 11% range. Do you expect fiber to at what pace does fiber kind of converge towards that 11%? How do we think about that? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:35:16Yeah. First of all, on the tower side, there is substantial growth there, and that's all just in the performance of the towers. We are continuing because this business is a great business to add revenue on existing towers, which increases the yield, which we would anticipate to happen in 2022 as well. The timing of when we're gonna get the fiber business to an 11% yield is, we've always had a hard time answering that question specifically because it really matters not only the amount of small cells we get, but how many are co-located. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:35:46As Jay pointed out, though, we're gonna make significant progress towards that given the 50,000 that we just booked, because not only we get a lot, a significant portion of them are going to be co-located on the existing assets, which will drive that yield up. What's so important to understand about that is, at the same type of maturity timeframe of towers, we were much below the 8% that we're on at the fiber business right now. We think that this, the proving out of the small cell business is happening faster than what happened with towers, and that we will get to those 11%. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:36:19As we've talked about, as we get to three tenants per site for an overall small cell deployment, that drives the returns up to the mid- to high teens. We feel like there's a lot of upside that is going to be realized in our fiber business, and those yields will creep up and approach where we are with towers, and towers will continue to increase also. Hopefully, you'll continue to ask the question of when are you gonna get to the 12% on towers or the 13% on towers, and we'll keep saying we're gonna chase it with small cell. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:36:52On the 50,000 small cells, you talked a lot about colocation. Any kind of rough numbers you can share on the capital intensity of that? And then more broadly for the business, given all the MLAs you now have in place, how do we think about the 2022 growth outlook, and how much of that is now contractually locked in, under MLA terms? Thanks. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:37:17The capital intensity on the co-locations is substantially lower than capital intensity on anchor builds. As we start getting clarity around what the timing is of building those nodes, both anchor builds and co-locations within the 50,000, we'll continue to update you on the capital. Right now, what we believe is that the capital in 2022 will remain relatively consistent with what we saw in 2021. But it's clear that over time, we would anticipate that to go up because we're gonna increase the number of nodes being put on air from what we expect this year to be 5,000 to what we expect next year to be over 10,000. We would expect an increase in capital, but not commensurate with the increased number of nodes because the capital intensity is coming down. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:38:03On the long-term MLAs and the percentage under those, we think of our MLAs as the way we structure the growth. Whether we put it in an MLA or take it à la carte, that growth is going to occur because our assets are so important to the functioning of the network. We've signed a lot of MLAs, but we always think about what is the best present value we can get within them, and whether we go à la carte or more holistic pricing is really dictated by the NPV we get, plus the benefits that both we and our customers get from having holistic pricing, just making it easier to operationalize. We also always leave room for upside through that. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:38:45We're not pricing all of our tower capacity and saying that's what we get paid within our MLAs. We're pricing it with respect to how much activity we think is gonna happen. We believe that the contracts provide all of that, both the underlying contractual obligations plus the upside and the operational ease that comes with having more pre-described pricing, which is really all it is because, like I said, however we wanna monetize the growth, we think there's gonna be growth, and we are monetizing it. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:39:17Jon, one other thing maybe just to think about that I would add to Dan's comments around the MLAs is the more near-term period that you think about, the more certainty we have of that revenue stream. As we get towards outer years, the more optionality we have towards the upside. We would think about it that way, and obviously, our counterparties think about it that way as well, because the nearer the term, the more certainty they have as to what exactly they're gonna need. As we get into outer periods, then we end up with more optionality towards future growth. This is just the nature of the way those contracts end up coming together usually. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:39:54Thanks very much. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:39:55You bet. Operator00:39:58Next, we'll go to Ric Prentiss with Raymond James. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:40:02Nice. Good morning, everybody. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:05Morning, Ric. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:40:05Happy New Year, belated. Couple questions, if I could. One, definitely appreciate the focus on core, we call it cash leasing. Also liked you guys reporting by segment the core leasing activity. Hopefully, we get that by quarters as we go forward. A couple questions on the Sprint T-Mobile items that you discussed earlier this year and touched on this call. Are we right that I think you said maybe 5,000 small cell nodes would get decommissioned by T-Mobile in that, in the 2023 timeframe? Should we assume that the 10,000 is a gross add of nodes, not a net add of nodes? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:46Yes. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:40:47Yes. The net add of nodes. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:50No, no. The 10,000 is a gross add of nodes. The 5,000 will be decommissioned in 2023. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:40:54Right. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:56The 10,000 is the gross or more than 10,000, and then the 5,000 will be decommissioned. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:41:01Makes sense, 'cause then gross would obviously lead to new lease activity and the decom would go to churn. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:41:06Yes, correct. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:41:08Okay. Second question on the T-Mobile small cell. I think you also mentioned there was a five-year specific number commitment, but is the 35,000 node commitment spread over the five years? Is it spread over a longer period of time? I've been getting several questions on that one. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:41:25Yeah. The 35,000 node commitment is spread over five years. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:41:30Great. Looks like you guys simplified the Sprint churn, the $200 million hitting in 2025, and then churn kinda hangs in the 1%-2% range other years. Should we assume that it goes more towards the 2% range than the 1% range, though, as we think about it? Just trying to understand, because I think you previously had acknowledged that you had $679 million ballpark of Sprint leases. Just trying to think of how we should think about the $200 million versus that $679 over what period of time might they be coming off. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:42:05Yeah, Ric, as we get into those outer periods, obviously, there's probably a little bit of movement as you would expect from year to year. We're trying to give you a range that in each of the years we would be within. We would expect it to kinda be 1%-2%. I don't think at this point we're ready to be more precise than that range. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:42:23Okay, can you give us an idea of how much total Sprint churn you expect to occur? If it was 679 the most exposure and 200 is kind of a lump sum, can you give us an idea of how much Sprint churn you expect to occur over a multi-year period then? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:42:40Yeah. I think when we get out into these outer periods of time, and history has been such a great place to go back and look at how these networks get deployed and what ends up happening when there's consolidation churn. You know, today, putting a precise answer on that question, I don't think we have great visibility towards that. We can range bound it. We know kind of the outer limit of it around the 2%, the lower end of kind of 1%. As they deploy the network and upgrade it to 5G, as T-Mobile goes through that process, there were gonna be some sites for sure that they're gonna not need. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:43:17There will probably also be some sites that today they look at and may be on the list of potentially losing that ultimately will have need as data growth occurs. I think as we get into those outer years, we'll be able to give you a better estimation. In terms of modeling, when we look at the total business, we think as we look at the contractual committed revenues on our assets today, we're pretty confident we'll be inside that 1%-2% churn in any years other than the specific years we were calling out. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:43:49Makes sense. One other quickie housekeeping one. In the supplement, I guess the supplement has not been updated for the new straight line adjustment for T-Mobile. Should we assume, again, ballpark zip code, that the straight line adjustment that went up by $250 million in the 2022 guidance, should that straight line adjustment kind of drop by $50 million or change by $50 million a year, just kind of theoretically? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:44:16Yeah, I won't speak specifically to the $50 million a year, but you're right that $250 million will drop over time, and it'll ultimately obviously reverse towards the back half of the 12-year agreement. So yeah, it's gonna be somewhere generally in that range. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:44:35That's good. Yeah. I expect in 1Q, you'll give us kind of the more detailed schedule as you have time to kind of finish it up. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:44:41Yeah. Well, it didn't happen in the period that we were reporting on in the supplement, so we wanted to put it in the period that it actually occurs. We'll have that all laid out really well in our supplement after the first quarter earnings. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:44:53Makes sense. Thanks for all the answers, and everybody stay well. Hopefully, we're moving into a much better 2022. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:44:59Agree. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:45:00Okay. You too, Ric. Operator00:45:03Next, we'll go to Phil Cusick with JPMorgan. Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:45:07Hi, this is Amir for Phil. Two, if I may. You guys have talked over the years about a second and third tenant on small cells being accretive to return. How should we think about these co-locations and pricing that first tenant and later driving up the return? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:45:27Sure. The pricing environment that we've talked about for years is unchanged. We've seen the economics, whether it's the two large deals that we spent a lot of time talking about this morning, or as we do one-off markets with the carriers, we've seen that pricing stay in line. In terms of our underwriting, we typically see a 6%-7% initial yield on invested capital. As we add a second tenant to those same assets or on that same network, we get into the double digits, returns, so above 10% yield. Then as Dan mentioned earlier, by the time we get to the third, we're into the mid to high teens in terms of our yields on invested capital as we add that third tenant. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:46:12We've seen that pricing basically be unchanged for the last five or six years. Those are the economics you should expect as we add additional tenants. Typically, when we're underwriting these investments, we will be. We don't do anything speculatively, so we'll start off with some sort of 6%-7% initial yield on that investment. We're building it for a carrier purpose built. In order for us to sign up for that, we're gonna have a view on future tenancy and what will go there. The things that we underwrite are gonna have at least one additional tenant beyond that anchor tenant. We're underwriting things with yields that are into the double digits. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:46:56Over time, getting and achieving that lease up to drive our returns well above our cost of capital. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:47:03One of the things that we've talked about historically and remains to be true is that when we talk about a second tenant, it doesn't have to be a second specific customer. That the first tenant coming in and densifying on their own network can be their own second tenant. We will see the economics that look almost exactly the same, whether it's the same company or a different company as the second tenant. That's true in these agreements as well as anytime that we're seeing the densification on an existing network, that those will drive returns that are very consistent with everything Jay just talked about. Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:47:39That's helpful. Thank you. My second question, in the material, you guys note that the carriers are planning the next phase of the 5G build that requires small cells at scale. Can you expand on what those conversations are looking like? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:47:55I'm sorry, what was the last part of the question? Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:47:58Can you expand on what those conversations are looking like, talking to the carriers about, like, the next stage of the 5G build that requires the small cell? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:48:08Yeah. Amir, I'll only speak to it at a really high level, and then I would let you inquire of each of the carriers as to how they're thinking about it. The conversations that we have brought to fruition the 50,000 nodes that they committed to. We have an understanding of how they're thinking about their markets, where they're wanting to densify, how they're thinking about putting it in places where we have existing fiber or not. We have a good view of that. Specifically, how they're thinking about spectrum management and densification, that's really a question that I think they should speak to. Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:48:43Great. Thank you. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:48:45You bet. Operator00:48:46Moving on, we'll go to Colby Synesael with Cowen. Greg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:48:52Great. Thanks. It's Greg Williams sitting in for Colby. I have two questions, if I may. One, I just wanted to revisit the idea of AT&T's messaging yesterday of a one tower climb. I don't wanna talk about that customer specifically, but what does a one tower climb or a one-touch program mean in terms of impacts on your leasing expectations? You know, specifically, if the radios aren't ready for late spring, early summer, if it's one piece of equipment or two pieces of equipment, how does that impact your lease ups and the way your contracts are constructed? Do you price on space, equipment? I know some of your peers can price on a frequency-specific level. The second question is just on the Services business. Greg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:49:34How are we gonna see services volume on the tower side, compared to 2022 versus 2021? What are the gross margins looking like for 2022 on service margins? Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:49:44You bet. Thanks, Greg, for the questions. On the first question, you know, I think it's a thoughtful approach to try to limit the number of truck rolls that you have in the network. Obviously AT&T is being thoughtful about how they're thinking about truck rolls and a number of times to touch a site, because it just increases the cost of that activity. It doesn't matter that much to us in terms of our ultimate financial results on site rental revenue, whether it's one or two touches in order to get to the steady state or the final state of the network. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:50:21We're obviously happy to work with our customers as they do things like try to eliminate the number of truck rolls that they have in order to help them accomplish those lower costs of deployments. In terms of the pricing in the second part of your question related to that, we price based on space used up on the top of the tower, space used at the base of the tower, the ground space that the equipment takes up, as well as our agreements are oftentimes spectrum-specific as to what they're deploying or using on those sites. So all three of those elements can impact the ultimate price on the site. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:50:56On the services question, we expect services as we talked about in terms of tower activity, to be similar in 2022 as it is in 2021. We have a similar expectation around the services business in 2022, relatively similar to what we saw in 2021. The timing and the quarters may change a little bit, but as you think about it in the totality of the year, our outlook assumes that services is about the same in 2022 as it was in 2021. Greg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:51:24That's helpful. Thank you. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:51:26You bet. Operator00:51:28Next we'll go to. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:51:29Operator, may we have time for two more questions? Operator00:51:31Thank you. Next we'll go to Sami Badri with Credit Suisse. Sami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit Suisse00:51:36Hi. Thank you very much for fitting me in. You know, there were some references made earlier about the difficulty of the small cell business, and this is kind of the rationale for, you know, the competitive advantage that you guys have built over many, many years and you've entrenched yourselves and have been able to watch where the puck is going. Another dynamic that really kind of entered in 2021 was the increases of costs and decreases of labor firepower for a lot of organizations involved in the telecommunications industry. Is this environment conducive of a dynamic where telcos will begin outsourcing more of their telecom infrastructure builds over time rather than insourcing? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:52:24Yeah. Good morning. Thanks for the question. We believe that to be the case. Certainly the economic proposition that we have to the wireless operators on the tower side has proven out over 25 years that the shared infrastructure model reduces the cost of the network for the operators and it has played out over a long period of time very successfully. That exact same dynamic is at play with small cells, where we're willing to put up the capital and then deploy the capital initially, and then share it across multiple operators such that each operator has a much lower cost of operating than what they would have if they owned their own and each of them built their own network. We absolutely see those dynamics at play. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:53:08What you're highlighting around an environment where labor costs increase, inflationary pressures may drive up interest rates, I think it just underpins our value proposition to our carriers that we're happy to provide the capital at a much lower cost than what the markets can provide them capital because of the opportunity that we have to see returns from multiple operators across that same asset. That's the business model and feel like we're really well positioned for that. In a period of time where everyone is trying to figure out ways to reduce overall costs, we're a very good alternative as they think about network deployment. Sami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit Suisse00:53:52Got it. Thank you. One comment or question actually on just some of the FAA and airline-type things that we've been seeing. Has there been any change in payments or negotiations or under the contract that you have with your major customers regarding some of the noise that non-telco constituents are making? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:54:14There has not been any change in the behavior with our customers, and we don't expect there to be any impact to our 2022 outlook. Sami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit Suisse00:54:23Thank you. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:54:25You bet. Operator, may we have time for one more? Operator00:54:29Thank you. That final question will come from David Guarino with Green Street. David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:54:34Thanks. Two questions. I'll ask them upfront for you. The first one is on valuations for fiber assets have moved significantly higher over the past year. Do you think it might make sense to recycle a portion of your fiber assets that maybe aren't as well suited for small cell co-location? And then the second question is on data centers. You guys have made some small investments in data centers, but what are your thoughts on a larger scale data center acquisition? And do you see enough evidence today that data centers and towers under the same roof make strategic sense? Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:55:05You bet. On your first question around valuations for fiber, I think the world is starting to see the real value of fiber and the necessity of it for small cells, and a desire for folks to try to figure out a way to invest in that space has certainly driven up the valuations. We've talked for years around our strategic focus and what the interest in fiber is for us. We wanted to be in the top U.S. markets, and we wanted to acquire fiber that was dense in those markets and had a lot of capacity. As we said, I think it was coming on now about four years ago, we really didn't see any more meaningful acquisitions in the U.S. or opportunities to acquire fiber that kind of met those criteria, dense urban markets, high-capacity fiber. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:55:52The majority of what we have been investing in since then has been building fiber in markets for carriers to deploy small cells. When I look at our capital base and the assets, there's not a portion of those assets that are extraneous to the strategy of any meaningful amount. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:56:10The assets that we acquired and built were really in the locations that we chose, and we didn't buy large nationwide portfolios of assets that we look at and say, "Okay, these are underperforming or unlikely to perform long term." Like the asset base that we have and think we're gonna be able to drive really nice returns across them over a long period of time, and I think the actions of the last 12 months really, really speak to the opportunity that lies ahead, so feel good about where the assets are. On your second question around data centers, large-scale data centers, we don't see that as core to our strategy. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:56:46Don't see a need to own data centers. Don't see how it relates, frankly, to the edge data centers that will ultimately be needed as wireless networks ultimately expand. I don't see owning or operating large data centers as a part of our business model, and it's frankly not something we're interested in doing. We're focused on investing our capital in the towers and small cells. We think that's the highest growth opportunity in the U.S. and see a lot of opportunities to deploy capital there as well as drive great returns for our shareholders. We're gonna stay focused there. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:57:25If ultimately we get to our upside case for small cells, then certainly I think the edge data centers will come around, and we're well positioned given our fiber footprint to benefit from those edge data centers if we get into the upside case outcomes for small cells. We'll certainly take advantage of where our hub sites are and our assets are located to capture that edge data demand. But don't see large-scale data centers playing out in our strategy. Appreciate the question. Did you have a follow-up? David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:57:59Oh, yeah. Well, just to clarify. When I said large scale, I was referring more to a larger platform, not necessarily a hyperscale data center. It sounds like based on your response, that same would hold true. It's the timing's not there yet from your view, but in the future, you could be more open-minded to a smaller edge data center strategy. Is that a correct way to read what you said? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:58:19Well, I think I'm trying to separate the difference between the large box data centers and the edge data centers. We see potential on the horizon for edge data centers to come to fruition in the wireless networks. In the use cases, in order to get to a place where edge data centers are a meaningful opportunity for us, we're talking about cases that are upside cases as we think about small cells. We'd have to get to that kind of level of data demand in the U.S. If we get to kind of the upside cases on small cells and fiber and edge data centers are an opportunity, we feel like we're really well positioned with the assets that we have to capture that, and we would absolutely be willing to build out sites. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:59:05We've made some investments in Vapor IO. We have a good position there. It's an edge data center company. They've done well. We've built a number of their assets on our sites, and so we've got a good partnership there, and we're watching the development of that space. For it to become meaningful in our operating results is a pretty big run from where we are today in terms of total data traffic that would be needed. That's where I would see our opportunity, but don't see or frankly don't see an opportunity in the big box data centers today or in the future as being really a part of our core strategy. David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:59:44That's helpful. Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:59:46You bet. Well, thank you everyone for joining this morning, and let me just conclude by thanking our employees for a job well done in 2021. The level of activity is remarkable. The way you delivered for our customers was outstanding, and so thank you for all of your work. I know you're already busy working on 2022, but thank you for what you accomplished in 2021, and I look forward to talking to all our investors next quarter. Thanks for joining. Operator01:00:14This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:02:13Good day, and welcome to the Crown Castle Q4 2021 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance, Ben Lowe. Please go ahead, sir. Ben LoweSVP of Corporate Finance at Crown Castle00:02:30Great. Thank you, Paula, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today as we discuss our fourth quarter 2021 results. With me on the call this morning are Jay Brown, Crown Castle's Chief Executive Officer, and Dan Schlanger, Crown Castle's Chief Financial Officer. To aid the discussion, we have posted supplemental materials in the investor section of our website at crowncastle.com that will be referenced throughout the call this morning. This conference call will contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, and the actual results may vary materially from those expected. Information about potential factors which could affect our results is available in the press release and the risk factor sections of the company's SEC filings. Our statements are made as of today, January 27th, 2022, and we assume no obligations to update any forward-looking statements. Ben LoweSVP of Corporate Finance at Crown Castle00:03:20In addition, today's call includes discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Tables reconciling these non-GAAP financial measures are available in the supplemental information package in the Investor section of the company's website at crowncastle.com. With that, let me turn the call over to Jay. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:03:36Thanks, Ben, and thank you everyone for joining us on the call this morning. As you saw from our results last night, 2021 was a tremendous year for Crown Castle. We delivered 14% AFFO per share growth. We grew our common stock dividend by 11%. We benefited from the highest level of tower application volume in our history, resulting in a 35% increase in core tower leasing activity and a 6% organic growth, leading the industry by a wide margin. We saw an inflection in the demand for small cells, securing commitments for more than 50,000 new small cells during the last 12 months, which is equal to 70% of the total small cells booked in our history prior to 2021. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:04:20We entered into a new 12-year agreement with T-Mobile that provides committed long-term tower revenue growth, and we made significant progress toward our goal to achieve carbon neutrality for scope one and two emissions by 2025 as we successfully sourced 60% of the total electricity we expect to consume this year from renewable sources. These results reflect the positive fundamentals underpinning our U.S.-centric business as our customers are busy upgrading and deploying their nationwide 5G networks, resulting in robust activity across our towers and small cells from new installations and amendments. As we start 2022, we expect elevated levels of tower leasing to continue this year and anticipate leading the industry once again with the highest U.S. tower revenue growth, supporting our announced 11% dividend increase, which is well above our 7%-8% target. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:05:18Our customers are also committing to the next phase of their 5G build-out that will require the deployment of small cells at scale to increase the capacity and density of their networks as more spectrum deployed across existing macro towers is not sufficient to keep up with the growth in mobile data demand. With that in mind, I believe 2022 will be an important transition year for our small cells and fiber business as we prepare to accelerate our deployment of small cells from the approximately 5,000 nodes this year to what we expect will be more than 10,000 beginning in 2023. Dan will cover the financial results for 2021 and our updated expectations for 2022 in a bit more detail. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:06:02I'm gonna focus my comments on our strategy to create significant shareholder value by providing profitable solutions to connect communities and people to each other. We are focused on delivering the highest risk-adjusted returns for our shareholders by investing in shared infrastructure assets that lower implementation and operating costs for our customers while generating solid returns for our shareholders. As a result, we continue to solely invest in the U.S. market because we believe it represents the best market for wireless infrastructure ownership with the most attractive growth profile and the lowest risk. Over the last 25 years, the performance of our tower assets has proven the value of this strategy. We began investing at approximately 3% yield, and today, those assets now yield more than 11%. We are building value from this strategy again with our small cell and fiber business. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:06:59Since the beginning of our small cells and fiber strategy, investors have had two primary questions. Would small cells be required at scale, and would customers co-locate on the same assets to drive attractive returns? Today, I believe these questions have been answered. At a time when our customers have been upgrading a record number of our tower sites for 5G, we secured commitments for more than 50,000 new small cell nodes. This is in addition to the 55,000 small cell nodes we have on air today. Importantly, a significant portion of the 50,000 new nodes will be co-located on existing fiber assets at attractive returns. Clearly, we have very positive answers to these key questions. Small cells are required at scale and will be co-located on existing assets. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:07:51As these small cells are deployed, they will contribute to improved network performance, which history has taught us will attract additional small cells as carriers compete on network quality. This dynamic is similar to our tower experience, where a significant driver of the value created has been from carriers deploying more spectrum on existing towers to keep pace with mobile data demand growth. As a result, I believe this is just the starting point for total small cells needed by wireless networks. This view is further supported by recent work completed for us by third-party experts that predict a long-term environment where small cells accelerate. As the clear leader in small cells, we are uniquely positioned to benefit from this growth. The advancement of our small cell strategy continues to remind me of our journey as the U.S. tower industry developed, ultimately creating significant value for shareholders. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:08:47Although it's easy to forget, there was significant investor skepticism during the early years when we were proving out the tower business. During that time, we faced questions about the long-term return potential of the business, the negative free cash flow profile, and when or if ever it would inflect, and whether we would ever see customers co-locate on the same assets since each carrier had different spectrum portfolios and unique network requirements. Those questions were eventually all answered for U.S. Towers. Oftentimes, the turning points in the business that addressed those questions only became widely accepted after the fact. I see a similar pattern with our small cell business. I'm convinced that this period is one of the most important proof points for the small cell business model. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:09:35We have more than $15 billion invested in more than 80,000 route miles of high-capacity fiber connecting 55,000 small cells that are on air and concentrated in the top U.S. market. The weighted average life of this capital is less than five years and already yields nearly 8%. Following the recent commitments for small cells, we have more than 60,000 contracted small cell nodes in our backlog, including a record number of co-location nodes that we expect will increase the overall yield on our invested capital. This sets us on a course to accelerate growth in our small cell business beginning in 2023 as we expect to deploy more than 10,000 small cell nodes next year with the potential to scale from there. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:10:23We also continue to see opportunities to add to the returns we are generating from small cells by leveraging the same shared fiber assets to pursue profitable fiber solutions growth. We remain disciplined as we allocate capital to these opportunities with decisions driven by return targets, consistent with how we've executed our fiber strategy from the start by focusing on small cells as the key driver of long-term value creation. To wrap up, we had a terrific 2021. We expect to once again lead the industry with the highest U.S. tower revenue growth in 2022, and we see the recent large-scale small cell commitments as the beginning of a thematic move in the deployment of future wireless networks, for which we are well positioned as the clear leader. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:11:12I believe our strategy, capabilities, and unmatched portfolio of more than 40,000 towers and more than 80,000 route miles of fiber concentrated in the top U.S. market put Crown Castle in the best position to capitalize on the current environment and to grow our cash flows and our dividends per share, both in the near term and for years to come. Because of our position, Crown Castle provides an excellent opportunity for shareholders to invest in the development of 5G in the U.S., which we believe is the best market for communications infrastructure ownership with its attractive growth and low risk profile. Importantly, we provide this access to such attractive industry dynamics while delivering a compelling total return opportunity comprised of a high-quality dividend that's currently yielding over 3% with expected growth in that dividend of 7%-8% annually. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:12:06With that, I'll turn the call over to Dan. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:12:09Thanks, Jay, and good morning, everyone. As Jay discussed, 2021 was a great year for Crown Castle, and we expect the momentum to continue in 2022 as 5G deployments continue at scale. With our comprehensive comprehensive offering of towers, small cells and fiber solutions, we're able to support our customers expanding infrastructure needs as network architecture evolves. Turning to slide four of the presentation, full year 2021 results exceeded our prior expectations, with site rental revenues increasing 8%, adjusted EBITDA increasing 12%, and AFFO per share increasing 14% when compared to full year 2020 results, excluding non-typical items. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:12:52Some of the outperformance in 2021 was due to approximately $10 million of additional site rental revenues, $10 million of additional expense reductions, and lower than expected sustaining capital expenditures, the majority of which we do not believe will recur in 2022. The 8% year-over-year growth in site rental revenues included approximately 6% growth in organic contribution to site rental revenues, consisting of approximately 6% growth from towers, 10% growth from small cells, and 3.5% growth from fiber solutions. Turning to page five, we have increased our full year 2022 outlook to reflect the additional $250 million of straight line revenues associated with the long-term agreement with T-Mobile that we announced earlier this month. Other than these additional straight line revenues, our 2022 outlook is unchanged. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:13:42These additional straight line revenues reflect the significant additional contracted tower revenue growth that comes with the new agreement, but they do not contribute to 2022 AFFO. In addition to the contracted tower revenue growth, the agreement with T-Mobile includes a contractual commitment for 35,000 new small cell nodes over the next five years. The agreement with T-Mobile also results in several events related to the decommissioning of the Sprint network, including tower non-renewals that are expected to reduce site rental revenues by approximately $200 million in 2025, small cell non-renewals that we expect to reduce site rental revenues by approximately $45 million, with the majority occurring in 2023, and approximately $10 million of additional fiber solutions non-renewals in 2022. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:14:28Importantly, except for these discrete events, we expect consolidated annual tower and small cell non-renewals to remain within our historical range of 1%-2%. Turning to page six, we now expect growth in the organic contribution to site rental revenues in 2022 of $235 million-$275 million. The reduction in the expected growth in organic contribution to site rental revenues compared to our prior 2022 outlook announced in October reflects the impact from the $10 million of non-recurring revenue that contributed to fourth quarter 2021 results, while our 2022 outlook remains unchanged. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:15:08We expect we will generate 4.5% consolidated growth in 2022, consisting of approximately 5.5% from towers, which we believe will be the highest U.S. tower growth rate in the industry again this year, 4.5% from small cells and 3% from fiber solutions. As many of you may be aware, in our third quarter 2021 earnings release, we broke down our organic growth to show total new leasing, growth in prepaid rent amortization, and a new concept we call core new leasing, which excludes the impact of prepaid rent amortization. Based on feedback we've received since adding core leasing activity to our disclosures, starting with our first quarter earnings release, we will speak to organic growth exclusive of the impact of prepaid rent amortization or what we'll call core organic growth. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:15:56This presentation provides information investors can use to analyze our performance that we believe, and we've been told, is more consistent with other companies in our industry. As I have mentioned, and you can see on page seven, the majority of the outperformance in our 2021 AFFO is not expected to recur in 2022, and therefore impacts year-over-year growth despite no changes to our 2022 AFFO expectations. Turning now to our balance sheet, we finished the year with approximately 5x debt to EBITDA on a last quarter annualized basis, in line with our leverage target. During 2021, we improved our balance sheet by extending the weighted average maturity to nine years and reducing the average borrowing cost to approximately 3.1%. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:16:41Part of why we've extended our debt maturities and emphasized fixed as opposed to floating rate debt was to protect our ability to grow our dividends even during periods of increasing interest rates. We believe we have done exactly that, which is another example of our focus on driving the highest risk-adjusted returns for our shareholders. Looking forward, we expect our discretionary capital expenditures to begin to trend higher as we accelerate the pace of small cell deployments. With a record level of co-location nodes in our backlog, which require less capital relative to anchor builds, we expect to be able to fund this higher level of investment with free cash flow and incremental debt capacity while maintaining our investment grade credit profile. To wrap up, 2021 was a great year for us, with record tower activity driving significant financial outperformance. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:17:31After leading the industry in 2021, we expect to again generate the highest U.S. tower growth in the industry in 2022, with core tower leasing activity approximately 50% higher than our trailing five-year average. Over the past 12 months, we have booked over 50,000 small cell nodes, equal to almost 70% of the nodes we had booked in our history prior to 2021. We see this as an inflection in the demand for small cells and expect to accelerate growth in our fiber segment in 2022 and beyond. Longer term, we believe we are strategically positioned to benefit from all phases of the 5G build-out with our comprehensive infrastructure offering that provides us the best opportunity to consistently deliver dividend growth as wireless network architecture evolves and our customers' priorities shift over time. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:18:20With that, Paula, I'd like to open the call to questions. Operator00:18:23Thank you. To signal for a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Also, if you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute button is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, it is star one at this time for questions, and we'll pause for just a moment. Our first question will come from Michael Rollins with Citi. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:18:49Thanks, and good morning. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:18:51Morning, Michael. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:18:53A couple questions if I could. You know, first, on the tower side, I'm curious, given the comments you made about leasing activity, if you could frame the backlog on the tower side that Crown is carrying into 2022, and maybe give us a sense as you look at what the carriers are doing, how much of their footprints are covered by the bookings and the billings, that you've recognized to date and what might be on the come. Then just, separately on small cells, if I could just ask one other question. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:19:26Given the comments about the ramping small cell demand that you've highlighted over the last few months, does it make you wanna take a more expansive strategy to add fiber outside of maybe that top 25-30 markets that you've been historically focused on and be prepared for a more expansive small cell deployment cycle from your customers? Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:19:52You bet. On your first question around the backlog in towers, obviously as we spoke to, we had the highest level of activity in the company's history during 2021, and we're expecting that level of activity to continue into 2022. If you frame it in terms of historical context, what's really unique about this cycle is that we've got four carriers deploying. You've got AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and DISH all deploying network. They've got significant amount of spectrum to be deployed, and they have the capital to be able to deploy that. I can't think of another time in history of our business where we've got four well-capitalized carriers with spectrum and a desire to deploy network. We're certainly riding the wave of that. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:20:38In terms of what they're touching, similar to past upgrade cycles, the focus for the three legacy carriers is to touch the sites where they're already existing on the assets, on the macro assets. We would expect the next phase of 5G build-out will be to densify their network. We expect that some portion of that densification is gonna happen through new installations on towers that they're not located on. A big part of that, we see that happening in terms of small cells and the 50,000 nodes that we booked over the last 12 months. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:21:17The commitments from them, I think, really just speak to that as that second phase of network deployment as they start to try to densify the network, and the need there is gonna be both macro sites as well as significantly needing a lot of small cells in order to do it. In terms of the footprint being touched, they're gonna touch, you know, virtually all of their existing sites as they upgrade through 5G, and that'll take a few years to happen. Feel good about the activity that we're gonna see again in 2022, and then as we get to periods beyond that, we'll update you as we get later into the year and give our guidance in October later this year. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:21:56On your second question around the activity for fiber, you know, we've been focused on building and owning high-capacity fiber in dense urban areas in the top U.S. markets. Our strategy has been based on our view that as data demand grows, it will grow most significantly in the densely populated areas of the U.S., and those are the areas where macro sites, in particular, won't be able to handle all of the network capacity that's gonna be created. I think as a general rule, you're gonna continue to see our investments focused in those top markets. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:22:36There are gonna be some markets outside of the top 25, top 30 markets, where we will go and build nodes for our carrier customer, but we wouldn't do that on a speculative basis. To the extent that one of our customers has a market, we assess that market as having good, attractive economics at an entry point similar to what we've talked about our return thresholds have been, and we see lease up from other carriers who are gonna need those same areas, then we would be open to expanding that. I think you're gonna see the concentration of the capital as well as, frankly, the activity from the carriers be really focused on those top U.S. markets. Michael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Citi00:23:16Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:23:17You bet. Operator00:23:19Moving on, we'll go to Simon Flannery with Morgan Stanley. Simon FlanneryManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:23:25Great. Thank you very much. Good morning. I want to talk about M&A, if I could, for a little. You've been fairly quiet in terms of your activity over the last couple of years here. I know you've talked in the past about interest in developed markets. There's a lot of activity in Europe, so perhaps you could just update us on that. Then the other would be on ground leases. It looked like it was a fairly quiet year in terms of extending and purchasing ground leases, so any color there on perhaps being able to continue to own more and push the maturities out. Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:23:57Sure. Good morning, Simon. On your first question around M&A and how we think about this, core to the business around towers and small cells is certainly our focus and really don't see anything outside of our core business of towers and small cells that would be of any interest to us. Around what markets to be in, I mentioned this a couple of times in my comments. We look at the U.S. market as the most attractive market in the world for investment in the kind of infrastructure that we wanna own. We think the growth profile is most attractive here, and we also think the risk is the lowest. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:24:35As we've assessed both developing markets as well as developed countries, we don't see those two characteristics exist in the markets. We've stayed solely focused on the U.S. We continue to watch what's developing in the world and to see if maybe our calculus and our view would change over time with some characteristics. Based on the work that we've seen to date, we just haven't seen anything that's attractive to us. Frankly, we're really excited about the opportunity to put capital to work and continue to invest in the U.S. market because it does have that low risk and high growth. We see that growth continuing unabated for a long period of time. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:25:16Really excited about the opportunity in the U.S., and think we have plenty of places to put capital to work here in the U.S. On the second question around ground leases, now this has been an initiative we've been at for about 15 years. Our average ground leases are well over 30 years remaining on them on average. As we look at the ground underneath our assets, we're focused on both extending the leases to the extent that they start to get inside of the kind of a 10- to 20-year period of time. Where it makes sense to bring those leases on balance sheet in the form of an acquisition, we're certainly open to doing that. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:25:54At different points in time as the markets move around, we get opportunities that arise, and we'll continue to do that. Given the maturity of the portfolio, there's not really any pressure on us to feel like we need to put capital to work to buy ground leases. We'll do it. It's opportunistic when the financial returns make sense. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:26:14Yeah. Just to add to the maturity of the portfolio point there, Simon, over 80% of our leases are either owned or greater than 20 years, and the average life of the leases that are not owned is over 35 years. As Jay mentioned, there's just no pressure for us to do anything unless the financial returns make sense at this point. David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:26:34Great. Thanks a lot. Operator00:26:38Next, we'll go to David Barden with Bank of America. David BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:26:44Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the questions. I guess just two. The first would be, you know, just over the last couple days, you know, we've heard new news, to a degree from Verizon pulling forward, accelerating, their C-band build, with extra capital, you know, getting in the hands of, Crown Castle. Then T-Mobile at the same time, kind of pushing back their build-out with respect to waiting for 110, to do a one tower climb. I just wanted to kind of see how that lined up with what you were expecting for the year and how you set your guidance, et cetera. Then I guess the second question, for the T-Mobile deal in terms of the non-renewals, how do those non-renewals manifest themselves? David BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:27:28Is it a hot cut on January 1? Does it happen ratably over the course of the year? Specifically with respect to the $10 million we're losing in fiber in 2022. Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:27:39You bet. Good morning, Dave. On your first question, I would just without being really specific about individual carriers. I think the activity, as I spoke to a minute ago, that we saw in 2021 and expect to carry into 2022, we haven't seen anything that would cause us to look at our guidance and have to shift our expected growth and revenues. We have pretty good visibility, as you know, pretty good visibility into what their deployment plans are. To the extent that they start to adjust those plans, we're probably six to nine months away from seeing any impact in what we do. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:28:24If there is a movement upward, it would push it pretty late into this year and wouldn't have a real meaningful result impact on our results in calendar year 2022. It probably more portends what's gonna impact as we start to think about site rental revenue growth going into 2023. We'll continue to watch it and be responsive as they work on their 5G networks. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:28:49Yeah. David, to speak to the non-renewal point, as we talked about when we announced the agreement, on the tower side, we think it's gonna be a $200 million impact to 2025, which you can assume happens the first of the year and is $200 million through the course of the year. It's all of that. On the small cell side, it's a similar portion. It's about $45 million, the majority of which is in 2023. Again, you can just assume that happens at the beginning of the year and impacts the entire year. The $10 million is a Fiber Solutions turn in 2022, an impact of again $10 million to the total revenue in 2022. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:29:27I think you can for modeling purposes and how you think about it, just assume that happens on January 1st, and it impacts revenues negatively by $10 million. David BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:36Okay, great. Thanks for the help, guys. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:29:39Yep. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:29:39You bet. Operator00:29:41Next, we'll go to Nick Del Deo with MoffettNathanson. Nick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathanson00:29:46Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. You know, first one for Dan. You know, it looks like your cash tower cost of service is up about 9% year-over-year in the quarter. It was up about 7% last quarter. You know, in the past, it's been pretty muted. You know, looking at unallocated G&A in the quarter, it was kinda higher than it's been before, too. You know, maybe talk a little bit about what's behind that cost growth and how we should think about the trajectory from here. And then I have a follow-up. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:30:12Yeah. If you look at year-over-year, it's relatively stable, so it's just when costs come in and what happens on a quarter-to-quarter basis. I would think that when you think about the cost structure, especially in our tower business, it's pretty stable over a long period of time. I would just ask that when you look into it, Nick, look at the year-over-year growth as opposed to any quarter-over-quarter moves. That probably is more indicative of what's gonna happen through the course of long periods of time, including in our 2022 guidance. Nick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathanson00:30:41Okay. Nothing unusual going on there to call out. Yeah, I guess the second one on small cells, you know, kind of thinking about the T-Mobile and Verizon deals, do they presumably structure those deals to cover their anticipated needs for the foreseeable future? You're kind of thinking about the cadence of signings going forward from customers with long-term deals like those, is it appropriate to think that it might be several years before they come back to do more with you in kind of a feast or famine outlook? Are there reasons to think that they might come back to the well more, you know, on a more regular basis, you know, before those deals conclude? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:31:18Yeah, Nick. I would say, you know, to frame in that, I would think about two things. The first thing I would think about is the 50,000 node commitment that we received is a hard contractual commitment. So there's been a balance whenever the carrier, we're working with the carriers around contracted future leasing activity, whether it's on towers for amendments or new installations, or in the case of small cells, we're not gonna get 100% of what they think they're gonna build contracted and committed that early. So I wouldn't, we don't view this and don't think this is a 100% of everything they're gonna need or contract for 'cause they're just not gonna make that level of commitment. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:32:02The second thing that I think is when I think about your question is the amount of and scale of the commitment relative to historical activity is really, frankly astonishing. We've said this a couple of different times, but we've been at this for 10 years. We've got 50,000 nodes on air, and in the last 12 months we've gotten 50,000 node commitment. It feels to us like this is a very significant turning point. I think that turning point and the commitment from the carriers, while we think about it in terms of, and in my comments, I talked about the return elements, the revenue growth elements, and why it's important there. The other aspect of this is how difficult these are to build, I think is very well understood by our carrier customers. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:32:54There's an element to this of the carriers know they're gonna need the sites, and unlike towers, where we can get them on air in six months, there has to be significant planning that goes into this, and they recognize the difficulty of it, which I think is really the value proposition that we bring to the table of an ability to deliver these nodes and implement. It's really a statement of confidence also in our operating ability, in addition to the macro elements of what's needed in order to make their networks work. I think the combination of those two things is just really compelling. Nick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathanson00:33:29Okay. Great. That's helpful. Thanks, Jay. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:33:31You bet. Operator00:33:35Moving on, we'll go to Jon Atkin with RBC Capital Markets. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:33:41Thanks. I noticed that the cash yield on invested capital showed a nice sequential increase during Q4 for fiber. Can you speak a little bit as to what drove that? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:33:57Yeah, John. A couple of things drove it. One is just performance in the business as we continue to add more revenue to existing fiber, both through fiber solutions and co-locating small cells on the assets we already own. So I think part of that is just the continuation and proof that this business does generate incremental returns that add to the overall yields. I think there was a little bit of it when we called out some expense reductions in the fourth quarter that we didn't expect. Those hit on the fiber side and therefore increased the gross margin and ultimately the yield because that calculation is in last quarter annualized, so we got the benefit of that kinda one-time $10 million reduction in expenses. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:34:50Some of it's from that too, but the majority of the increase in the yield is because the business is just performing well and we're increasing the revenue and returns on the assets that we already own. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:35:01On the tower side, it was in the low 11% range. Do you expect fiber to at what pace does fiber kind of converge towards that 11%? How do we think about that? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:35:16Yeah. First of all, on the tower side, there is substantial growth there, and that's all just in the performance of the towers. We are continuing because this business is a great business to add revenue on existing towers, which increases the yield, which we would anticipate to happen in 2022 as well. The timing of when we're gonna get the fiber business to an 11% yield is, we've always had a hard time answering that question specifically because it really matters not only the amount of small cells we get, but how many are co-located. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:35:46As Jay pointed out, though, we're gonna make significant progress towards that given the 50,000 that we just booked, because not only we get a lot, a significant portion of them are going to be co-located on the existing assets, which will drive that yield up. What's so important to understand about that is, at the same type of maturity timeframe of towers, we were much below the 8% that we're on at the fiber business right now. We think that this, the proving out of the small cell business is happening faster than what happened with towers, and that we will get to those 11%. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:36:19As we've talked about, as we get to three tenants per site for an overall small cell deployment, that drives the returns up to the mid- to high teens. We feel like there's a lot of upside that is going to be realized in our fiber business, and those yields will creep up and approach where we are with towers, and towers will continue to increase also. Hopefully, you'll continue to ask the question of when are you gonna get to the 12% on towers or the 13% on towers, and we'll keep saying we're gonna chase it with small cell. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:36:52On the 50,000 small cells, you talked a lot about colocation. Any kind of rough numbers you can share on the capital intensity of that? And then more broadly for the business, given all the MLAs you now have in place, how do we think about the 2022 growth outlook, and how much of that is now contractually locked in, under MLA terms? Thanks. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:37:17The capital intensity on the co-locations is substantially lower than capital intensity on anchor builds. As we start getting clarity around what the timing is of building those nodes, both anchor builds and co-locations within the 50,000, we'll continue to update you on the capital. Right now, what we believe is that the capital in 2022 will remain relatively consistent with what we saw in 2021. But it's clear that over time, we would anticipate that to go up because we're gonna increase the number of nodes being put on air from what we expect this year to be 5,000 to what we expect next year to be over 10,000. We would expect an increase in capital, but not commensurate with the increased number of nodes because the capital intensity is coming down. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:38:03On the long-term MLAs and the percentage under those, we think of our MLAs as the way we structure the growth. Whether we put it in an MLA or take it à la carte, that growth is going to occur because our assets are so important to the functioning of the network. We've signed a lot of MLAs, but we always think about what is the best present value we can get within them, and whether we go à la carte or more holistic pricing is really dictated by the NPV we get, plus the benefits that both we and our customers get from having holistic pricing, just making it easier to operationalize. We also always leave room for upside through that. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:38:45We're not pricing all of our tower capacity and saying that's what we get paid within our MLAs. We're pricing it with respect to how much activity we think is gonna happen. We believe that the contracts provide all of that, both the underlying contractual obligations plus the upside and the operational ease that comes with having more pre-described pricing, which is really all it is because, like I said, however we wanna monetize the growth, we think there's gonna be growth, and we are monetizing it. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:39:17Jon, one other thing maybe just to think about that I would add to Dan's comments around the MLAs is the more near-term period that you think about, the more certainty we have of that revenue stream. As we get towards outer years, the more optionality we have towards the upside. We would think about it that way, and obviously, our counterparties think about it that way as well, because the nearer the term, the more certainty they have as to what exactly they're gonna need. As we get into outer periods, then we end up with more optionality towards future growth. This is just the nature of the way those contracts end up coming together usually. Jonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital Markets00:39:54Thanks very much. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:39:55You bet. Operator00:39:58Next, we'll go to Ric Prentiss with Raymond James. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:40:02Nice. Good morning, everybody. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:05Morning, Ric. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:40:05Happy New Year, belated. Couple questions, if I could. One, definitely appreciate the focus on core, we call it cash leasing. Also liked you guys reporting by segment the core leasing activity. Hopefully, we get that by quarters as we go forward. A couple questions on the Sprint T-Mobile items that you discussed earlier this year and touched on this call. Are we right that I think you said maybe 5,000 small cell nodes would get decommissioned by T-Mobile in that, in the 2023 timeframe? Should we assume that the 10,000 is a gross add of nodes, not a net add of nodes? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:46Yes. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:40:47Yes. The net add of nodes. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:50No, no. The 10,000 is a gross add of nodes. The 5,000 will be decommissioned in 2023. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:40:54Right. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:40:56The 10,000 is the gross or more than 10,000, and then the 5,000 will be decommissioned. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:41:01Makes sense, 'cause then gross would obviously lead to new lease activity and the decom would go to churn. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:41:06Yes, correct. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:41:08Okay. Second question on the T-Mobile small cell. I think you also mentioned there was a five-year specific number commitment, but is the 35,000 node commitment spread over the five years? Is it spread over a longer period of time? I've been getting several questions on that one. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:41:25Yeah. The 35,000 node commitment is spread over five years. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:41:30Great. Looks like you guys simplified the Sprint churn, the $200 million hitting in 2025, and then churn kinda hangs in the 1%-2% range other years. Should we assume that it goes more towards the 2% range than the 1% range, though, as we think about it? Just trying to understand, because I think you previously had acknowledged that you had $679 million ballpark of Sprint leases. Just trying to think of how we should think about the $200 million versus that $679 over what period of time might they be coming off. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:42:05Yeah, Ric, as we get into those outer periods, obviously, there's probably a little bit of movement as you would expect from year to year. We're trying to give you a range that in each of the years we would be within. We would expect it to kinda be 1%-2%. I don't think at this point we're ready to be more precise than that range. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:42:23Okay, can you give us an idea of how much total Sprint churn you expect to occur? If it was 679 the most exposure and 200 is kind of a lump sum, can you give us an idea of how much Sprint churn you expect to occur over a multi-year period then? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:42:40Yeah. I think when we get out into these outer periods of time, and history has been such a great place to go back and look at how these networks get deployed and what ends up happening when there's consolidation churn. You know, today, putting a precise answer on that question, I don't think we have great visibility towards that. We can range bound it. We know kind of the outer limit of it around the 2%, the lower end of kind of 1%. As they deploy the network and upgrade it to 5G, as T-Mobile goes through that process, there were gonna be some sites for sure that they're gonna not need. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:43:17There will probably also be some sites that today they look at and may be on the list of potentially losing that ultimately will have need as data growth occurs. I think as we get into those outer years, we'll be able to give you a better estimation. In terms of modeling, when we look at the total business, we think as we look at the contractual committed revenues on our assets today, we're pretty confident we'll be inside that 1%-2% churn in any years other than the specific years we were calling out. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:43:49Makes sense. One other quickie housekeeping one. In the supplement, I guess the supplement has not been updated for the new straight line adjustment for T-Mobile. Should we assume, again, ballpark zip code, that the straight line adjustment that went up by $250 million in the 2022 guidance, should that straight line adjustment kind of drop by $50 million or change by $50 million a year, just kind of theoretically? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:44:16Yeah, I won't speak specifically to the $50 million a year, but you're right that $250 million will drop over time, and it'll ultimately obviously reverse towards the back half of the 12-year agreement. So yeah, it's gonna be somewhere generally in that range. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:44:35That's good. Yeah. I expect in 1Q, you'll give us kind of the more detailed schedule as you have time to kind of finish it up. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:44:41Yeah. Well, it didn't happen in the period that we were reporting on in the supplement, so we wanted to put it in the period that it actually occurs. We'll have that all laid out really well in our supplement after the first quarter earnings. Ric PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond James00:44:53Makes sense. Thanks for all the answers, and everybody stay well. Hopefully, we're moving into a much better 2022. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:44:59Agree. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:45:00Okay. You too, Ric. Operator00:45:03Next, we'll go to Phil Cusick with JPMorgan. Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:45:07Hi, this is Amir for Phil. Two, if I may. You guys have talked over the years about a second and third tenant on small cells being accretive to return. How should we think about these co-locations and pricing that first tenant and later driving up the return? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:45:27Sure. The pricing environment that we've talked about for years is unchanged. We've seen the economics, whether it's the two large deals that we spent a lot of time talking about this morning, or as we do one-off markets with the carriers, we've seen that pricing stay in line. In terms of our underwriting, we typically see a 6%-7% initial yield on invested capital. As we add a second tenant to those same assets or on that same network, we get into the double digits, returns, so above 10% yield. Then as Dan mentioned earlier, by the time we get to the third, we're into the mid to high teens in terms of our yields on invested capital as we add that third tenant. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:46:12We've seen that pricing basically be unchanged for the last five or six years. Those are the economics you should expect as we add additional tenants. Typically, when we're underwriting these investments, we will be. We don't do anything speculatively, so we'll start off with some sort of 6%-7% initial yield on that investment. We're building it for a carrier purpose built. In order for us to sign up for that, we're gonna have a view on future tenancy and what will go there. The things that we underwrite are gonna have at least one additional tenant beyond that anchor tenant. We're underwriting things with yields that are into the double digits. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:46:56Over time, getting and achieving that lease up to drive our returns well above our cost of capital. Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:47:03One of the things that we've talked about historically and remains to be true is that when we talk about a second tenant, it doesn't have to be a second specific customer. That the first tenant coming in and densifying on their own network can be their own second tenant. We will see the economics that look almost exactly the same, whether it's the same company or a different company as the second tenant. That's true in these agreements as well as anytime that we're seeing the densification on an existing network, that those will drive returns that are very consistent with everything Jay just talked about. Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:47:39That's helpful. Thank you. My second question, in the material, you guys note that the carriers are planning the next phase of the 5G build that requires small cells at scale. Can you expand on what those conversations are looking like? Dan SchlangerEVP and CFO at Crown Castle00:47:55I'm sorry, what was the last part of the question? Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:47:58Can you expand on what those conversations are looking like, talking to the carriers about, like, the next stage of the 5G build that requires the small cell? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:48:08Yeah. Amir, I'll only speak to it at a really high level, and then I would let you inquire of each of the carriers as to how they're thinking about it. The conversations that we have brought to fruition the 50,000 nodes that they committed to. We have an understanding of how they're thinking about their markets, where they're wanting to densify, how they're thinking about putting it in places where we have existing fiber or not. We have a good view of that. Specifically, how they're thinking about spectrum management and densification, that's really a question that I think they should speak to. Amir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&T00:48:43Great. Thank you. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:48:45You bet. Operator00:48:46Moving on, we'll go to Colby Synesael with Cowen. Greg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:48:52Great. Thanks. It's Greg Williams sitting in for Colby. I have two questions, if I may. One, I just wanted to revisit the idea of AT&T's messaging yesterday of a one tower climb. I don't wanna talk about that customer specifically, but what does a one tower climb or a one-touch program mean in terms of impacts on your leasing expectations? You know, specifically, if the radios aren't ready for late spring, early summer, if it's one piece of equipment or two pieces of equipment, how does that impact your lease ups and the way your contracts are constructed? Do you price on space, equipment? I know some of your peers can price on a frequency-specific level. The second question is just on the Services business. Greg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:49:34How are we gonna see services volume on the tower side, compared to 2022 versus 2021? What are the gross margins looking like for 2022 on service margins? Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:49:44You bet. Thanks, Greg, for the questions. On the first question, you know, I think it's a thoughtful approach to try to limit the number of truck rolls that you have in the network. Obviously AT&T is being thoughtful about how they're thinking about truck rolls and a number of times to touch a site, because it just increases the cost of that activity. It doesn't matter that much to us in terms of our ultimate financial results on site rental revenue, whether it's one or two touches in order to get to the steady state or the final state of the network. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:50:21We're obviously happy to work with our customers as they do things like try to eliminate the number of truck rolls that they have in order to help them accomplish those lower costs of deployments. In terms of the pricing in the second part of your question related to that, we price based on space used up on the top of the tower, space used at the base of the tower, the ground space that the equipment takes up, as well as our agreements are oftentimes spectrum-specific as to what they're deploying or using on those sites. So all three of those elements can impact the ultimate price on the site. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:50:56On the services question, we expect services as we talked about in terms of tower activity, to be similar in 2022 as it is in 2021. We have a similar expectation around the services business in 2022, relatively similar to what we saw in 2021. The timing and the quarters may change a little bit, but as you think about it in the totality of the year, our outlook assumes that services is about the same in 2022 as it was in 2021. Greg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD Cowen00:51:24That's helpful. Thank you. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:51:26You bet. Operator00:51:28Next we'll go to. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:51:29Operator, may we have time for two more questions? Operator00:51:31Thank you. Next we'll go to Sami Badri with Credit Suisse. Sami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit Suisse00:51:36Hi. Thank you very much for fitting me in. You know, there were some references made earlier about the difficulty of the small cell business, and this is kind of the rationale for, you know, the competitive advantage that you guys have built over many, many years and you've entrenched yourselves and have been able to watch where the puck is going. Another dynamic that really kind of entered in 2021 was the increases of costs and decreases of labor firepower for a lot of organizations involved in the telecommunications industry. Is this environment conducive of a dynamic where telcos will begin outsourcing more of their telecom infrastructure builds over time rather than insourcing? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:52:24Yeah. Good morning. Thanks for the question. We believe that to be the case. Certainly the economic proposition that we have to the wireless operators on the tower side has proven out over 25 years that the shared infrastructure model reduces the cost of the network for the operators and it has played out over a long period of time very successfully. That exact same dynamic is at play with small cells, where we're willing to put up the capital and then deploy the capital initially, and then share it across multiple operators such that each operator has a much lower cost of operating than what they would have if they owned their own and each of them built their own network. We absolutely see those dynamics at play. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:53:08What you're highlighting around an environment where labor costs increase, inflationary pressures may drive up interest rates, I think it just underpins our value proposition to our carriers that we're happy to provide the capital at a much lower cost than what the markets can provide them capital because of the opportunity that we have to see returns from multiple operators across that same asset. That's the business model and feel like we're really well positioned for that. In a period of time where everyone is trying to figure out ways to reduce overall costs, we're a very good alternative as they think about network deployment. Sami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit Suisse00:53:52Got it. Thank you. One comment or question actually on just some of the FAA and airline-type things that we've been seeing. Has there been any change in payments or negotiations or under the contract that you have with your major customers regarding some of the noise that non-telco constituents are making? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:54:14There has not been any change in the behavior with our customers, and we don't expect there to be any impact to our 2022 outlook. Sami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit Suisse00:54:23Thank you. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:54:25You bet. Operator, may we have time for one more? Operator00:54:29Thank you. That final question will come from David Guarino with Green Street. David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:54:34Thanks. Two questions. I'll ask them upfront for you. The first one is on valuations for fiber assets have moved significantly higher over the past year. Do you think it might make sense to recycle a portion of your fiber assets that maybe aren't as well suited for small cell co-location? And then the second question is on data centers. You guys have made some small investments in data centers, but what are your thoughts on a larger scale data center acquisition? And do you see enough evidence today that data centers and towers under the same roof make strategic sense? Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:55:05You bet. On your first question around valuations for fiber, I think the world is starting to see the real value of fiber and the necessity of it for small cells, and a desire for folks to try to figure out a way to invest in that space has certainly driven up the valuations. We've talked for years around our strategic focus and what the interest in fiber is for us. We wanted to be in the top U.S. markets, and we wanted to acquire fiber that was dense in those markets and had a lot of capacity. As we said, I think it was coming on now about four years ago, we really didn't see any more meaningful acquisitions in the U.S. or opportunities to acquire fiber that kind of met those criteria, dense urban markets, high-capacity fiber. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:55:52The majority of what we have been investing in since then has been building fiber in markets for carriers to deploy small cells. When I look at our capital base and the assets, there's not a portion of those assets that are extraneous to the strategy of any meaningful amount. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:56:10The assets that we acquired and built were really in the locations that we chose, and we didn't buy large nationwide portfolios of assets that we look at and say, "Okay, these are underperforming or unlikely to perform long term." Like the asset base that we have and think we're gonna be able to drive really nice returns across them over a long period of time, and I think the actions of the last 12 months really, really speak to the opportunity that lies ahead, so feel good about where the assets are. On your second question around data centers, large-scale data centers, we don't see that as core to our strategy. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:56:46Don't see a need to own data centers. Don't see how it relates, frankly, to the edge data centers that will ultimately be needed as wireless networks ultimately expand. I don't see owning or operating large data centers as a part of our business model, and it's frankly not something we're interested in doing. We're focused on investing our capital in the towers and small cells. We think that's the highest growth opportunity in the U.S. and see a lot of opportunities to deploy capital there as well as drive great returns for our shareholders. We're gonna stay focused there. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:57:25If ultimately we get to our upside case for small cells, then certainly I think the edge data centers will come around, and we're well positioned given our fiber footprint to benefit from those edge data centers if we get into the upside case outcomes for small cells. We'll certainly take advantage of where our hub sites are and our assets are located to capture that edge data demand. But don't see large-scale data centers playing out in our strategy. Appreciate the question. Did you have a follow-up? David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:57:59Oh, yeah. Well, just to clarify. When I said large scale, I was referring more to a larger platform, not necessarily a hyperscale data center. It sounds like based on your response, that same would hold true. It's the timing's not there yet from your view, but in the future, you could be more open-minded to a smaller edge data center strategy. Is that a correct way to read what you said? Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:58:19Well, I think I'm trying to separate the difference between the large box data centers and the edge data centers. We see potential on the horizon for edge data centers to come to fruition in the wireless networks. In the use cases, in order to get to a place where edge data centers are a meaningful opportunity for us, we're talking about cases that are upside cases as we think about small cells. We'd have to get to that kind of level of data demand in the U.S. If we get to kind of the upside cases on small cells and fiber and edge data centers are an opportunity, we feel like we're really well positioned with the assets that we have to capture that, and we would absolutely be willing to build out sites. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:59:05We've made some investments in Vapor IO. We have a good position there. It's an edge data center company. They've done well. We've built a number of their assets on our sites, and so we've got a good partnership there, and we're watching the development of that space. For it to become meaningful in our operating results is a pretty big run from where we are today in terms of total data traffic that would be needed. That's where I would see our opportunity, but don't see or frankly don't see an opportunity in the big box data centers today or in the future as being really a part of our core strategy. David GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green Street00:59:44That's helpful. Thanks. Jay BrownCEO at Crown Castle00:59:46You bet. Well, thank you everyone for joining this morning, and let me just conclude by thanking our employees for a job well done in 2021. The level of activity is remarkable. The way you delivered for our customers was outstanding, and so thank you for all of your work. I know you're already busy working on 2022, but thank you for what you accomplished in 2021, and I look forward to talking to all our investors next quarter. Thanks for joining. Operator01:00:14This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesBen LoweSVP of Corporate FinanceDan SchlangerEVP and CFOJay BrownCEOAnalystsAmir RozwadowskiSVP and CFO at AT&TDavid BardenManaging Director and Senior Telecommunications Equity Research Analyst at Bank of AmericaDavid GuarinoManaging Director and Head of Global Data Center and Tower Research at Green StreetGreg WilliamsDirector and Equity Research Analyst at TD CowenJonathan AtkinManaging Director at RBC Capital MarketsMichael RollinsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at CitiNick Del DeoManaging Director at MoffettNathansonRic PrentissManaging Director and Global Head of Telecommunications Services Research at Raymond JamesSami BadriManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Credit SuisseSimon FlanneryManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Morgan StanleyPowered by