Eric Fisher
SVP, Product Supply, Trading and Wholesale at Valero Energy
Yeah, I think, you know, as I mentioned before, you know, there, there's this, there's this kind of constant talk about oncoming production, increased rates, startups, projects, that, has always said at some point, the D4 is gonna be under pressure, especially since the EPA did not raise the D4 obligation in their, in their last set rule. So, you know, what I think, though, is, you know, and then we combine that with there was this kind of a rush, I think, looked like to me, kind of a rush to sell RINs in the third quarter with that narrative, combined with that Russian announcement that they were gonna ban exports, which kind of quickly evaporated. So, so there was, I think, a kind of a, a more of a temporary, view that, you know, that the D4 RIN was gonna drop even more.