NYSE:EIG Employers Q3 2024 Earnings Report $47.47 +0.54 (+1.15%) As of 03:58 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Employers EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.81Consensus EPS $0.78Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/AEmployers Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$224.00 millionExpected Revenue$225.19 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.19 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEmployers Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/30/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, October 31, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsEmployers' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Employers Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Employers Holdings, Inc. Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Lori Brown, General Counsel. Operator00:00:33Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, Jonathan. Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the Q3 2024 Earnings Call for Employers. Today's call is being recorded and webcast from the Investors section of our website, where a replay will be available following the call. Statements made during this conference call that are not based on historical facts are considered forward looking statements. These statements are made in reliance on the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:01:07Although we believe the expectations expressed in our forward looking statements are reasonable, risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to be materially different from our expectations, including the risks set forth in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. All remarks made during the call are current only at the time of the call and will not be updated to reflect subsequent developments. The company also uses this website as a means of disclosing material non public information and for complying with disclosure obligations under the securities sorry, under the SEC's Regulation FD. Some disclosures will be included in the Investors section of our website. Accordingly, investors should monitor that portion of our website in addition to following our press releases, SEC filings, public conference calls and webcasts. Speaker 100:02:05In our earnings press release and in our remarks or responses to questions, we may use non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non GAAP measures to our GAAP results are included in our financial supplement as an attachment to our earnings press release, our investor presentation and any other materials available in the Investor section on our website. And now, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Kathy Antonello. Thank you, Lori, and let me echo your words earlier with a warm welcome to everyone participating in today's call. Joining me today is Mike Paquette, our Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:02:48During the call, we will follow our typical agenda where I will deliver my opening comments and then hand it over to Mike to provide the details on our financials. I'll close with a few additional thoughts, and then we'll open it up for questions, comments and discussion. We are very pleased with Employers' 3rd quarter results as we saw year over year net income per share increased by 124% and adjusted net income per share increased by 19%. Higher earned premiums, strong net investment income and continued net investment gains were the main drivers of the increases. Our strong operating results, coupled with the sharp decrease in interest rates experienced during the quarter, listed each of our book value per share metrics to all time highs. Speaker 100:03:43During the quarter, we continued to grow our new and renewal premiums, while experiencing reductions in both premium audit pickup and audit accrual. Our current accident year loss and LAE ratio on voluntary business was 64%, slightly above the 63.3% we maintained throughout 2023 and consistent with that of 2022. As was the case in the Q3 of 2023, we did not recognize any prior year loss reserve development on our voluntary business because the full actuarial study was not performed. We will evaluate our prior year reserves in more detail at year end when we routinely perform a full reserve study. Our ongoing initiative to reduce our underwriting in general and administrative expense ratio continues to be effective. Speaker 100:04:40This quarter's ratio of 23.2% is down from 23.6% a year ago and is the 2nd lowest since 2018. The decrease was primarily the result of the Cerity integration plan we executed in the Q4 of 2023. With that, Mike will now provide a deeper dive into our financials, and then I will return to provide my closing remarks. Mike? Speaker 200:05:07Thank you, Kathy. Gross premiums written were $181,000,000 a decrease of 8%. The decrease was primarily due to higher new and renewal business writings being more than offset by lower final audit premiums and endorsements. Net premiums earned were $187,000,000 an increase of 1%. Our losses and loss adjustment expenses were $118,000,000 versus $115,000,000 a year ago and our loss and loss adjustment expense ratio excluding the LPT was 63.9% versus 63.2%. Speaker 200:05:47The increase in loss adjustment expenses was primarily due to higher earned premiums and a slightly higher current accident year loss and loss adjustment expense estimate. Commission expenses were $26,000,000 versus $27,000,000 a year ago and our commission expense ratio was 14.1% versus 14.5%. The decrease in our commission expense ratio was primarily related to a decrease in anticipated 2024 agency incentives, which are specific to individual contracts and vary with agency targets. Underwriting and general and administrative expenses were $43,000,000 versus $44,000,000 and our underwriting and general expense ratio was 23.2% versus 23.6%. Our net investment income was $27,000,000 for the quarter versus $26,000,000 a year ago, an increase of 3%. Speaker 200:06:50The increase was primarily due to higher yields on our fixed maturity securities. When considering the $1,000,000 of interest expense we incurred in the Q3 of 2023 through our Federal Home Loan Bank leveraged investment strategy, which we unwound in the Q4 of 2023, our net investment income was up 7% year over year. Our fixed maturities currently have a duration of 4.2 and an average credit quality of A plus Our weighted average book yield was 4.4% at quarter end, which is up nicely from 4.1% a year ago. Our net income this quarter was favorably impacted by $10,000,000 of net after tax unrealized gains generated predominantly from equity securities and other investment holdings, both of which are reflected on our income statement and our stockholders' equity was favorably impacted by $52,000,000 of net after tax unrealized gains generated from fixed maturity holdings, which are reflected on our balance sheet. During the Q3, we repurchased $7,000,000 of our common stock at an average price of $45.27 per share. Speaker 200:08:03And thus far, we have repurchased an additional $1,000,000 of our common stock in the 4th quarter at an average price of $47.45 per share. Our remaining share repurchase authority currently stands at $39,000,000 And yesterday, our Board of Directors declared a 4th quarter 2024 regular quarterly dividend of $0.30 per share. This dividend is payable on November 27 to stockholders of record on November 13. And now I'll turn it back to Kathy. Speaker 100:08:35Thank you, Mike. Our appetite expansion effort, which has led to profitable growth, continues to be a large contributor to the 7% increase in premium that we've achieved year to date, excluding adjustments from premium audit. Our loss ratios in these new segments continue to be in line or better than our traditional segments and we expect to further benefit from this strategy well into the future. And finally, we returned $15,100,000 to our stockholders this quarter through a combination of share repurchases at an average price that was highly accretive to our adjusted book value per share and through regular quarterly dividend. And with that, operator, we will now take questions. Operator00:09:23Certainly. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Hughes from Truist Securities. Speaker 300:09:35Yes. Thank you. Good morning. Speaker 100:09:38Good morning, Mark. Speaker 300:09:41Good morning. Your appetite expansion, the 7% year to date, I think that maybe it was a little bit less in the Q3. What do you think the growth prospects are? Just the pace of the appetite expansion, is that sort of run its course? And you need to take another look at the market and look for some new class codes? Speaker 300:10:10Or how should we think about that? Speaker 100:10:14Yes. So I don't think it's run its course. We are we have what we call our appetite working group and they are still working and looking to find new class codes that fit in with who we are and we continue to expand. In fact, we did expand towards the end of the third quarter our appetite. At the same time, we also look to find class codes that are not performing to the extent that we feel like they should. Speaker 100:10:45And so at times, we pull back too. But there's no intention at all to put to the Fed that strategy. And we continue to find places where we can grow profitably and we will continue to do that end of 2025 and beyond until we can't find folks anymore that fit our appetite. Speaker 300:11:11Yes. The audit premium in 3Q sounds like it's decelerated a bit and maybe it's picked back up in October. Is there anything you've been able to put your finger on as to why you saw the low in the period? Speaker 100:11:31We haven't been able to put our finger on anything specific, but we have some high level things going on within the economy that we think may have contributed. I actually was looking at the NCCI came out with a quarterly economic briefing yesterday. And one of the key themes or takeaways from that report was that the labor market slowed meaningfully over the summer and then it picked back up in September. And I found that to be very interesting and sort of synonymous with what we saw over the summer and now we're seeing in October. They also said that they expect more volatility in employment growth and some only modest hiring pace upcoming. Speaker 100:12:25So that was very similar to what we saw. But there is some volatility out there. It's a very, very difficult number to predict. But so as the audit premiums have been coming down, we've been decreasing our audit accrual. And as you know, that has an impact on that written premium, which is why we have started sharing the numbers with and without those adjustments. Speaker 300:12:53Yes. Anything from the your payroll partners around that summer lull of pace of new business, anything to divine there? Speaker 100:13:05Haven't heard anything from the payroll partners on that front. I can say that our growth that we've seen continues to be widespread whether it's coming from our independent agent channel, which is what we call our core channel. But we're also seeing tremendous growth on the digital side. One thing that I do want to point out is our policies in force during the Q3 of 2024 increased by more than they did in the 1st or Q2 of 2024. So the growth that we saw in the Q3 came from the smaller policy size bands. Speaker 100:13:47And that was one of the contributors to the fact that our growth, while we did grow, wasn't quite as strong in the Q3. Speaker 300:13:56Yes. What's your prognostication for what the NCCI will come up with in terms of aggregate loss costs when we think about 2025, how do you think that will trend? Speaker 100:14:17I think from what I've seen so far, the filings that are going to be effective onetwenty 5 and forward, all of the bureaus continue to show downward pressure on loss costs and it's driven by the same things that we've seen in the past, decreases in frequency and very moderate changes in severity. So I really I don't have a crystal ball in terms of what will happen beyond what they have already filed, but I'm not seeing too much of a change there in terms of what they're filing. Now I will point out that in every state except Florida, we can adjust our prices to what we build appropriate for our book of business and we continue to do that. Speaker 300:15:04Yes. Thank you very much. Speaker 100:15:08All right. Thank you, Mark. Operator00:15:10Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the program back to Kathy Antonello for any further remarks. Speaker 100:15:31Okay. Thank you all for joining us this morning. And I look forward to meeting with you again in February to discuss our year end results. Operator00:15:43Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Net income per share surged 124% year-over-year and adjusted EPS rose 19%, driving book value per share to all-time highs. Underwriting efficiency improved as the loss & LAE ratio on voluntary business held at 64% and the combined underwriting & G&A expense ratio fell to 23.2%, the second-lowest since 2018, alongside a lower commission ratio. Net investment income increased 3% year-over-year (7% ex-interest expense) with fixed maturities yielding 4.4%, and the company realized $10 M of after-tax gains on the income statement plus $52 M on the balance sheet. Appetite expansion drove 7% year-to-date premium growth (excluding audit adjustments), with new segments posting loss ratios in line with or better than traditional lines and expected to fuel future growth. 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Email Address About EmployersEmployers (NYSE:EIG), through its subsidiaries, operates in the commercial property and casualty insurance industry primarily in the United States. The company operates in two segments, Employers and Cerity. It offers workers' compensation insurance to small businesses in low to medium hazard industries under the Employers and Cerity brands. The company markets its products through local, regional, and national agents and brokers; alternative distribution channels; and national, regional, and local trade groups and associations, as well as directly to customers. 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There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Employers Holdings, Inc. Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Lori Brown, General Counsel. Operator00:00:33Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, Jonathan. Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the Q3 2024 Earnings Call for Employers. Today's call is being recorded and webcast from the Investors section of our website, where a replay will be available following the call. Statements made during this conference call that are not based on historical facts are considered forward looking statements. These statements are made in reliance on the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:01:07Although we believe the expectations expressed in our forward looking statements are reasonable, risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to be materially different from our expectations, including the risks set forth in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. All remarks made during the call are current only at the time of the call and will not be updated to reflect subsequent developments. The company also uses this website as a means of disclosing material non public information and for complying with disclosure obligations under the securities sorry, under the SEC's Regulation FD. Some disclosures will be included in the Investors section of our website. Accordingly, investors should monitor that portion of our website in addition to following our press releases, SEC filings, public conference calls and webcasts. Speaker 100:02:05In our earnings press release and in our remarks or responses to questions, we may use non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non GAAP measures to our GAAP results are included in our financial supplement as an attachment to our earnings press release, our investor presentation and any other materials available in the Investor section on our website. And now, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Kathy Antonello. Thank you, Lori, and let me echo your words earlier with a warm welcome to everyone participating in today's call. Joining me today is Mike Paquette, our Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:02:48During the call, we will follow our typical agenda where I will deliver my opening comments and then hand it over to Mike to provide the details on our financials. I'll close with a few additional thoughts, and then we'll open it up for questions, comments and discussion. We are very pleased with Employers' 3rd quarter results as we saw year over year net income per share increased by 124% and adjusted net income per share increased by 19%. Higher earned premiums, strong net investment income and continued net investment gains were the main drivers of the increases. Our strong operating results, coupled with the sharp decrease in interest rates experienced during the quarter, listed each of our book value per share metrics to all time highs. Speaker 100:03:43During the quarter, we continued to grow our new and renewal premiums, while experiencing reductions in both premium audit pickup and audit accrual. Our current accident year loss and LAE ratio on voluntary business was 64%, slightly above the 63.3% we maintained throughout 2023 and consistent with that of 2022. As was the case in the Q3 of 2023, we did not recognize any prior year loss reserve development on our voluntary business because the full actuarial study was not performed. We will evaluate our prior year reserves in more detail at year end when we routinely perform a full reserve study. Our ongoing initiative to reduce our underwriting in general and administrative expense ratio continues to be effective. Speaker 100:04:40This quarter's ratio of 23.2% is down from 23.6% a year ago and is the 2nd lowest since 2018. The decrease was primarily the result of the Cerity integration plan we executed in the Q4 of 2023. With that, Mike will now provide a deeper dive into our financials, and then I will return to provide my closing remarks. Mike? Speaker 200:05:07Thank you, Kathy. Gross premiums written were $181,000,000 a decrease of 8%. The decrease was primarily due to higher new and renewal business writings being more than offset by lower final audit premiums and endorsements. Net premiums earned were $187,000,000 an increase of 1%. Our losses and loss adjustment expenses were $118,000,000 versus $115,000,000 a year ago and our loss and loss adjustment expense ratio excluding the LPT was 63.9% versus 63.2%. Speaker 200:05:47The increase in loss adjustment expenses was primarily due to higher earned premiums and a slightly higher current accident year loss and loss adjustment expense estimate. Commission expenses were $26,000,000 versus $27,000,000 a year ago and our commission expense ratio was 14.1% versus 14.5%. The decrease in our commission expense ratio was primarily related to a decrease in anticipated 2024 agency incentives, which are specific to individual contracts and vary with agency targets. Underwriting and general and administrative expenses were $43,000,000 versus $44,000,000 and our underwriting and general expense ratio was 23.2% versus 23.6%. Our net investment income was $27,000,000 for the quarter versus $26,000,000 a year ago, an increase of 3%. Speaker 200:06:50The increase was primarily due to higher yields on our fixed maturity securities. When considering the $1,000,000 of interest expense we incurred in the Q3 of 2023 through our Federal Home Loan Bank leveraged investment strategy, which we unwound in the Q4 of 2023, our net investment income was up 7% year over year. Our fixed maturities currently have a duration of 4.2 and an average credit quality of A plus Our weighted average book yield was 4.4% at quarter end, which is up nicely from 4.1% a year ago. Our net income this quarter was favorably impacted by $10,000,000 of net after tax unrealized gains generated predominantly from equity securities and other investment holdings, both of which are reflected on our income statement and our stockholders' equity was favorably impacted by $52,000,000 of net after tax unrealized gains generated from fixed maturity holdings, which are reflected on our balance sheet. During the Q3, we repurchased $7,000,000 of our common stock at an average price of $45.27 per share. Speaker 200:08:03And thus far, we have repurchased an additional $1,000,000 of our common stock in the 4th quarter at an average price of $47.45 per share. Our remaining share repurchase authority currently stands at $39,000,000 And yesterday, our Board of Directors declared a 4th quarter 2024 regular quarterly dividend of $0.30 per share. This dividend is payable on November 27 to stockholders of record on November 13. And now I'll turn it back to Kathy. Speaker 100:08:35Thank you, Mike. Our appetite expansion effort, which has led to profitable growth, continues to be a large contributor to the 7% increase in premium that we've achieved year to date, excluding adjustments from premium audit. Our loss ratios in these new segments continue to be in line or better than our traditional segments and we expect to further benefit from this strategy well into the future. And finally, we returned $15,100,000 to our stockholders this quarter through a combination of share repurchases at an average price that was highly accretive to our adjusted book value per share and through regular quarterly dividend. And with that, operator, we will now take questions. Operator00:09:23Certainly. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Hughes from Truist Securities. Speaker 300:09:35Yes. Thank you. Good morning. Speaker 100:09:38Good morning, Mark. Speaker 300:09:41Good morning. Your appetite expansion, the 7% year to date, I think that maybe it was a little bit less in the Q3. What do you think the growth prospects are? Just the pace of the appetite expansion, is that sort of run its course? And you need to take another look at the market and look for some new class codes? Speaker 300:10:10Or how should we think about that? Speaker 100:10:14Yes. So I don't think it's run its course. We are we have what we call our appetite working group and they are still working and looking to find new class codes that fit in with who we are and we continue to expand. In fact, we did expand towards the end of the third quarter our appetite. At the same time, we also look to find class codes that are not performing to the extent that we feel like they should. Speaker 100:10:45And so at times, we pull back too. But there's no intention at all to put to the Fed that strategy. And we continue to find places where we can grow profitably and we will continue to do that end of 2025 and beyond until we can't find folks anymore that fit our appetite. Speaker 300:11:11Yes. The audit premium in 3Q sounds like it's decelerated a bit and maybe it's picked back up in October. Is there anything you've been able to put your finger on as to why you saw the low in the period? Speaker 100:11:31We haven't been able to put our finger on anything specific, but we have some high level things going on within the economy that we think may have contributed. I actually was looking at the NCCI came out with a quarterly economic briefing yesterday. And one of the key themes or takeaways from that report was that the labor market slowed meaningfully over the summer and then it picked back up in September. And I found that to be very interesting and sort of synonymous with what we saw over the summer and now we're seeing in October. They also said that they expect more volatility in employment growth and some only modest hiring pace upcoming. Speaker 100:12:25So that was very similar to what we saw. But there is some volatility out there. It's a very, very difficult number to predict. But so as the audit premiums have been coming down, we've been decreasing our audit accrual. And as you know, that has an impact on that written premium, which is why we have started sharing the numbers with and without those adjustments. Speaker 300:12:53Yes. Anything from the your payroll partners around that summer lull of pace of new business, anything to divine there? Speaker 100:13:05Haven't heard anything from the payroll partners on that front. I can say that our growth that we've seen continues to be widespread whether it's coming from our independent agent channel, which is what we call our core channel. But we're also seeing tremendous growth on the digital side. One thing that I do want to point out is our policies in force during the Q3 of 2024 increased by more than they did in the 1st or Q2 of 2024. So the growth that we saw in the Q3 came from the smaller policy size bands. Speaker 100:13:47And that was one of the contributors to the fact that our growth, while we did grow, wasn't quite as strong in the Q3. Speaker 300:13:56Yes. What's your prognostication for what the NCCI will come up with in terms of aggregate loss costs when we think about 2025, how do you think that will trend? Speaker 100:14:17I think from what I've seen so far, the filings that are going to be effective onetwenty 5 and forward, all of the bureaus continue to show downward pressure on loss costs and it's driven by the same things that we've seen in the past, decreases in frequency and very moderate changes in severity. So I really I don't have a crystal ball in terms of what will happen beyond what they have already filed, but I'm not seeing too much of a change there in terms of what they're filing. Now I will point out that in every state except Florida, we can adjust our prices to what we build appropriate for our book of business and we continue to do that. Speaker 300:15:04Yes. Thank you very much. Speaker 100:15:08All right. Thank you, Mark. Operator00:15:10Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the program back to Kathy Antonello for any further remarks. Speaker 100:15:31Okay. Thank you all for joining us this morning. And I look forward to meeting with you again in February to discuss our year end results. Operator00:15:43Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.Read morePowered by