NASDAQ:BRTX Biorestorative Therapies Q3 2024 Earnings Report $0.21 +0.02 (+7.77%) Closing price 05/22/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$0.21 +0.01 (+2.88%) As of 05/22/2026 07:58 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Biorestorative Therapies EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.13Consensus EPS -$0.35Beat/MissBeat by +$0.22One Year Ago EPSN/ABiorestorative Therapies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$0.23 millionExpected Revenue$0.30 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$70.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABiorestorative Therapies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/12/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, November 13, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsBiorestorative Therapies' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, August 11, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Biorestorative Therapies Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 13, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Preliminary Phase 2 results show a 70% responder rate (7 of 10 patients) with >30% improvement in both pain and function at 26 weeks, with four patients maintaining response at one year. No serious adverse events or dose‐limiting toxicities observed at the 40 million cell intradiscal dose, underscoring a favorable safety profile for BRTX100. Enrollment is on track with up to 99 subjects across 16 U.S. sites using a 2:1 randomization; completion is expected by end‐of‐2024, with a potential interim unblinded analysis in early 2025. Strong balance sheet of $13.1 million in cash, equivalents, and marketable securities with zero debt provides sufficient runway to reach key milestones. Management is evaluating regulatory strategies—including accelerated approval pathways, cervical indications expansion, and radiographic endpoints—to potentially enhance the pivotal data package. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBiorestorative Therapies Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Stephen Kilmer, Investor Relations. You may begin. Stephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative Therapies00:00:09Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Let me start by pointing out that this conference call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All forward-looking statements are based on BioRestorative Therapies' current beliefs, assumptions, and expectations, and such statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from those implied by such statements. No forward-looking statement can be guaranteed. For details on factors, among others, that could affect expectations, see Part 1, Item 1A, of our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2023, as amended, and Part 2, Item 1A, of our Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the period ended September 30th, 2024, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Stephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative Therapies00:01:01Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this conference call. BioRestorative undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, other than as required by law. On the call representing the company are Lance Alstodt, BioRestorative's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Francisco Silva, its Vice President of Research and Development, and Robert Kristal, the company's Chief Financial Officer. With that said, I'll now turn the call over to Lance. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:01:37Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the call on behalf of the management team and everyone here at BioRestorative. I'd like to thank you for your interest in our company, and for those of you who are shareholders, we obviously appreciate your support. As you can see from the press release that we issued earlier today, we continue to execute very well across all areas of our business in the third quarter. As excited as we are about our financial and operating performance this quarter and the progress that we're making in our ThermoStem program, it was really the preliminary phase 2 BRTX-100 data that we announced this morning that is most exciting, with very encouraging data for 10 patients at 26 weeks and 4 patients at a year. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:02:26Accordingly, we're going to break with tradition a little here, and rather than review our financial results, I'm going to ask Francisco to jump right into delivering the same BRTX-100 preliminary data slides that he gave today at the ORS PSRS Seventh International Spine Research Symposium. Of course, if you have any questions about the third quarter financial results, our ThermoStem brown fat program, or our commercial BioCosmeceuticals business, we'll be happy to answer them during the call's Q&A session as well. I'll turn it over to Francisco now. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:03:01Great. Thank you, Lance, and good afternoon, everyone. So our lead cell therapy candidate is BRTX-100. It's a novel cell-based therapeutic engineered to target areas of the body that have little blood flow and oxygen content. The product is formulated using autologous or your own cultured mesenchymal stem cells collected from the patient's bone marrow, as well as platelet lysate that's collected from the patient's blood. We intend that the product will be used for the nonsurgical treatment of painful lumbosacral disc disorders or as a complementary therapeutic to a surgical procedure. The safety and efficacy data of BRTX-100 in treating chronic lumbar disc disease, or CLDD, is being evaluated in an ongoing phase 2 prospective randomized double-blinded and sham-controlled study. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:03:53A total of up to 99 eligible subjects will be enrolled at up to 16 clinical sites across the United States, and subjects included in the trial will be randomized two to one to receive either BRTX or placebo with the sham-controlled. As Lance mentioned, I'm pleased to review the same slides that I discussed earlier today at a podium presentation at the ORS spine meeting. To go through the slide deck, I'm just going to quickly jump through some of the slides. Obviously, we have our boilerplate forward-looking statements. On slide three, I just want to quickly review the disc microenvironment, which is really important in understanding the impact of the product the way it's been designed and engineered, because it's really targeting the harsh microenvironment that's found within the disc. It has a very high osmolarity. It's low glucose. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:04:54It has very low oxygen tension of about 2%. Lactate levels are also low, and pH, which is extremely detrimental to cells. So this is important because when you're developing a biologic and you're trying to remodel the disc, especially within the nucleus pulposus, if you put cells in there that are not acclimated to this harsh environment, you're going to have a lot of cell death that could potentially cause the patient to experience worsening symptoms of the treatment, or the treatment might not work at all because the cells need to be alive for them to actually perform their anti-inflammatory activities. So really understanding the microenvironment is critical when developing a product, and that's what we have done over the last couple of years in developing our BRTX-100 product. So in the microenvironment, as a healthy disc degenerates. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:06:06I'm sorry, guys, but this is moving a little bit different. As the healthy disc degenerates. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:06:16Hey, Francisco. Francisco, I'm sorry. It's Lance. I think based on the investor profile on this call, it may be better to go right to kind of slide 17 and get to the punchline of the data. I think a lot of people understand the environment as well as the product candidate. Let's talk about the results. That's really the most exciting part of it. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:06:38Sure. Okay. Yeah. No problem, Lance. Yeah. So let's go to slide number 17. And in slide number 17 is the total of 10 patients that are treated using the product, BRTX-100. And in this particular group of patients that have been treated, you could see a direct correlation that at 26 weeks, 70% of the patients (again, this is blinded, but very, very encouraging) 70% of the patients had an improvement in both pain as well as function measured by the VAS and the ODI. So seven of the 10 improved, and three of the patients did not hit the benchmark of 30% improvement, which is dictated by the FDA as being efficacious. So that's very encouraging from the point of view of seeing that the data is falling in line within the randomization of the patients treated. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:07:46And we expect that this trend will continue to grow as the patients move on from the 26-week endpoint to the 52-week endpoint. And again, this is true as you review some of the other scales that we use for patient-reported outcomes, which is another one is the RMDQ, which is also showing a decrease in time in patients that have been treated with the clinical protocol in terms of either being in the sham or the treatment group, as well as the FRI, which is another scale that is used to determine efficacy. You see very similar trends in terms of the patient profile decreasing once the patients are enrolled in the trial. So to summarize, what we found is that very early, we're seeing very strong safety signals. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:08:46So we have not experienced to date any severe adverse event or dose-limiting toxicity or a current dose of 40 million cells injected intradiscally. So this is very, very encouraging, and this is our primary endpoint in terms of safety. So we feel very strong that this is going to continue throughout the trial. More importantly, is the efficacy, which is we're starting to see very strong trends emerge in both the VAS and the ODI, showing significance compared to baseline. And there's a responder rate that is also beginning to form now with the additional data that we're seeing that 7 of the 10 patients met the preliminary efficacy endpoint of improving by both 30% in pain and function. Another item that we're very encouraged about because we're starting to see a lot of this positive data emerge is that we're contemplating a 26-week preliminary efficacy endpoint interim analysis. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:09:58So that's something that's on the horizon for us. In addition to that, we're looking to expand the product profile and indication of BRTX-100 to include cervical indications. Thank you. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:10:16Thank you, Francisco. So as you can see from what Francisco just reviewed, the blinded preliminary clinical data of safety and efficacy endpoints from the ongoing phase 2 clinical trial for the treatment of chronic lumbar disc disease are very encouraging with patient-reported pain and function outcomes demonstrating a very clear and positive trend. So to summarize, at 26 weeks, like Francisco mentioned, 70% of the first 10 patients in the study reported a greater than 30% increase in function and a more than 30% decrease in pain. Now, I want to highlight that while the 30% increase in function and decrease in pain have been set forth by the FDA as preliminary endpoints for efficacy, we find those to be somewhat low, and we have demonstrated the ability to do far, far greater than those hurdles of 30%. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:11:20So if you look at each of these patients individually, those that responded, they responded far better than the 30%, some going as high as close to 90% improvement in pain and function and others circling around that sort of geography. So we're very pleased. We're very optimistic about these results. It really puts us in a position to continue with our enrollment, which we continue to progress well, and we expect to complete before the end of 2024. We know that if the data continues with this trend, we're confident that we will hit our efficacy endpoints for the phase 2 trial. And we will intend to present more of this data from the trial with an even larger patient population in the coming months. I expect to be somewhere early next year, January and February, with a larger group both out to 52 weeks and 26 weeks. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:12:27Finally, from a financial perspective, I'd be remiss by not mentioning that we ended the third quarter in a very strong position with cash, cash equivalents, and investments held in marketable securities: $13.1 million with no outstanding debt. That combined with our steadily improving financial performance provides us with additional financial flexibility and puts us on a path to profitability. So thank you very much for listening in. Those are our concluding remarks as it pertains to our prepared script, and we're happy to take any questions that you may have. Operator00:13:08Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Once again, please press Star 1 if you have a question or a comment. The first question comes from Jonathan Aschoff with Roth Capital. Please proceed. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:13:42Thanks, guys. Congrats, and thanks for sharing that data. How many patients are enrolled thus far? Are you only comfortable saying some number north of 10? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:13:54Yeah. It's considerably more than 10. We have not talked about that publicly, so we'll continue to take that approach as we continue to navigate the FDA on strategies of Fast Track and RMAT, etc. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:14:13Okay. So when was that data cut, the two weeks? Because when you show two weeks, it kind of makes someone think that there's not that many more than 10 because it's just two-week-old data. So when was that cut? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:14:29This data is several months old in terms of the two-week time point where some of the patients hit the two-week point. So yeah, we have more than 10 patient data. Most of the patient data where it'll be a lot more cumulative will be presented at ORS in February. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:14:56Okay. So now I can see why you're still sticking with 99 by year-end 2024. Thanks for that clarity. When will we see the first unblinded data? Do you intend to come out with additional 26 and 52-week data still on a blinded basis, or will we see it unblinded the next time? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:15:19No. It will still be blinded. Again, this is an academic conference where we're presenting. We have to be very careful how we present the data as well to maintain the blind. So that's something. Even though the results are impressive and very encouraging from the point of view of the emerging responder rate, but this is where we are so encouraged by the positive results is where we're looking at the possibility of an interim analysis at 26 weeks for the patients. And I think that would be an appropriate time to have unblinded data where we have the sham versus the treatment group with BRTX. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:01You can't postulate when that unblinded 26-week interim look might occur, can you? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:16:09I mean, again, I mean, it's all we need to make sure we don't compromise the integrity of the trial. There's a lot of logistics in terms of releasing, but if we were to do an interim analysis, it would be early next year. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:24Okay. I was. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:16:26I would. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:27Yes? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:16:28I would weigh in and commit to some time in the first half of 2025, but that's subject to further updates. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:37That's definitely helpful. So do you think the fourth patient that behaved like the other three, that back in February of this year, it was three versus one, and that was the split you were talking about? Do you think that fourth patient, the saline they got just eventually started to work, and that's why you have four of four, 52 weeks versus the clear line between three and four last February? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:17:01Yeah. And I think that's a great comment. And I mean, that's the beauty of a clinical trial is that if it's well-designed and the product is efficacious, you begin to see trends emerge. And that one subject is part of that group. That was saline-treated, and it's very well known that saline does have therapeutic effects that are not long-term maintained, but they do impact the trial. So we're very happy that we were able to amend our protocol to have now a sham group. And so at the 26 weeks, this is where the sham patients are being recorded. So we expect that presenting 52-week data of these particular patients, you'll have a better delta and a better view in terms of what's happening. But the 26-week data is. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:17:59So we're talking about. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:18:00Go ahead. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:18:02No. Can we be confident that the two placebos to be represented, two of the six extra patients that turned four into 10, did they both get shams, or perhaps did they get salines as well? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:18:16Only one patient received a saline injection. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:18:21Okay. Great. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:18:22Everyone else got the sham. And just to further your answer to that as well, as you look at the 52-week data with the four patients, now, we don't know which one has received the sham injection versus the BRTX-100, but there's considerable separation in the results. While all of them 100% achieved the 30%, it appears that one only achieved 30%, while the others achieved results far more significant than 30%. So we still see a separation there, and it's very possible that the placebo effect did take hold and the disc was further hydrated and lowered its pH and kind of maintained a healthier environment. So we can expect that, I guess, from time to time. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:19:16But to Francisco's point, the 26-week data where we have the sham injection, those are a little bit more bifurcated between those that responded and those that did not, and it kind of matches up with the randomization of two to one. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:19:34That's very helpful. Rob, how long do you think $13 million lasts? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:19:42I'll speak for Rob here. He's in the background. While we don't commit to timing, we don't anticipate having to do a financing anytime soon. We have all the cash that we need to achieve our strategic goals and get to an answer within this trial. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:20:03Thank you very much, guys. Congrats. Stephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative Therapies00:20:06Thanks, Jonathan. Operator00:20:08The next question comes from Michael Okunewitch with Maxim Group. Please proceed. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:20:15Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my questions, and congrats on the really interesting data. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:20:22Thanks, Mike. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:20:22I guess to kick things off and just follow up a little bit on the point you were talking about just before on the 52-week data where you saw all four patients respond, could you just give an idea of the magnitude of response for, I guess, patients one through three versus patient four? Because I believe that's how it broke down at the prior interim blinded look where you had patients one, two, and three responding significantly more than patient four. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:20:56Yeah, and that trend is continuing. Again, we have to be careful in terms of how we present this data. We don't want to unblind, but the trend is continuing with one patient having some effect based on the randomization, but the other three patients are significantly lower, which is, again, the numbers range, but they're greater than 60% improvement compared to baseline. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:21:34All right. Thank you. And then just, I guess, more broadly, right, given what we have seen from the FDA seeming to be a bit more supportive of others in the cell therapy space, like we've seen with Capricor or Mesoblast, would it be possible that if you are able to achieve both pain and function in this study, could that be something that you could file for accelerated approval on? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:22:00We believe so. I mean, it's something that if, again, I mean, this is 10 patients, but the data is very encouraging considering what's been out there with either other clinical trials in the disc space or investigator-initiated studies. So we're very encouraged that this data, if it continues to show these effects, that we could potentially use this data for pivotal, which would really help us and accelerate the commercialization of the product, which is, I think, really needed in terms of the overall market in the U.S. in getting cell-based therapies approved, especially when you're looking at these musculoskeletal disorders, which are tremendous. So there's a huge market for it, and we're very confident with our product. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:22:56All right. Thank you, and then one last one from me, and I'll hop back into the queue. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:22:59Michael, I'll also mention that because of what you just mentioned and the temperature at the FDA in terms of its more pro-cell therapy view, we've changed some of our strategy to consider looking at this data as pivotal data, perhaps, and trying to accelerate that study as appropriate. So we do appreciate that comment, and we do believe that the FDA has taken a much more positive view of the sector in general. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:23:38Yeah. Thank you. And actually, that does lead somewhat into my next question. I just wanted to ask you a little bit about some of the secondaries that you would be looking at in the final unblinded data, and in particular, whether you will be looking at how the percent change from baseline varies between groups. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:23:59Can you repeat the question? I'm sorry. I didn't understand it. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:24:03Oh, just for the actual final unblinded data in terms of secondary endpoints, is something that you'll be looking at the % change from baseline on both the pain and function scales for the different groups in addition to the responder analysis? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:24:22Right. So the FDA has guided that it's a 30% change is their MCID that they've put into our protocol. We feel that we can exceed that based on the trending data points that are coming out. And so we feel very strongly that we're going to not only hit the MCR/MCID in terms of efficacy, but we will be able to exceed that. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:24:56And we're also looking at. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:24:57Thank you. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:24:57Radiographic. We're also looking at radiographic endpoints and a whole host of other measures that we think would be just good general information for people to have to demonstrate that it's not just a subjective issue, but if we can demonstrate that there's radiographic improvement in the disc, that's a very powerful set of data. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:25:21Yeah. And just to add to that, that's really important here is that: keep in mind that we have not disclosed or released any MRI images of any of these patients. So that's something to look forward to in terms of additional evidence of the remodeling that's happening within the disc. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:25:46All right. Well, thank you very much and once again, congratulations on the compelling data here. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:25:52Thanks so much, Michael. Appreciate it. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:25:53Thank you. Operator00:25:55Once again, if there are any remaining questions or comments, please indicate so by pressing star one. The next question comes from Elemer Piros with Rodman & Renshaw. Please proceed. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:26:06Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. What I'd like to ask was if you could remind us whether the pain improvement and the functional improvement are these co-primary endpoints. And if that is so, would you have to demonstrate it at the group level, or would you have to demonstrate it within the same patient that they both would have to improve at least 30% on the VAS and at least 30% on the ODI for them to be called a responder? Thank you for verifying that. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:26:46Yes. They have to both respond in both the VAS as well as the ODI to be labeled a responder. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:26:54So in the current study, you see, Francisco, that the 7 out of 10 is the 7 that responded. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:03Yes. Correct. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:27:04Pain improvement. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:05Function improvement. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:06Functional improvement. Yep. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:07Okay. And Elemer, thank you for your question. I think I know where you're going because there has been a bit of a change in thought within the agency, and people are now looking at just pain as opposed to function as well. It leaves us open strategically as we think about amending protocols as we go through this to really increase our probability of success by limiting it perhaps to just one factor such as pain because we do believe that there's precedent for that out there now. So it's something that we are discussing. But as of now, the protocol is written for both pain and function. And the good news for us is the responder group does clear that what we think is a minimal bar of 30% in both disciplines. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:28:03Yes. I mean, at the end of the day, if you were successful in both, that would make for a stronger argument for the product. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:13While also showing some changes radiographically and improvement in the physics of the disc would be also very interesting and compelling, which we intend to do. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:28:28Yes. That was all. Thank you so much. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:32Thank you. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:32Thanks, Elemer. Appreciate it. Operator00:28:35We have no further questions in queue. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing remarks. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:45I would just say this is Lance on behalf of our team. We really appreciate you following us and spending the time to get further clarity on our quarterly accomplishments and certainly your interest in our clinical data. We will continue to update everyone as appropriate on new developments within our company. And we intend to have more data available in the January/February timeframe. So stay tuned. We're really excited to share with what we're working on. So have a great night, and thanks again for your interest. Operator00:29:25Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLance AlstodtChairman and CEOAnalystsJonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital PartnersElemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & RenshawStephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative TherapiesFrancisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative TherapiesMichael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim GroupPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Biorestorative Therapies Earnings HeadlinesBioRestorative Therapies Presents New Preclinical Data at ISCT 2026 Highlighting Source-Specific Exosome Functionality and Commercial Applications in BioCosmeceuticalsMay 13, 2026 | globenewswire.comBioRestorative Therapies Reports Expanded Phase 2 Blinded Dataset for BRTX-100 Showing Sustained Pain and Functional Improvements in Chronic Lumbar Disc DiseaseMay 7, 2026 | globenewswire.comJune 12: $100 Turns Into $100,000?The SpaceX IPO is scheduled for June 12, and former tech executive Jeff Brown - who identified Bitcoin, Tesla, and Nvidia before major runs - says the window to get in early is closing fast. 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The company leverages a proprietary universal allogeneic cell technology platform to create high-potency cell therapy candidates designed to promote tissue repair, reduce inflammation and accelerate healing in areas damaged by disease or medical treatment. Its lead development program targets radiation-induced oral mucositis (RIOM), a painful and dose-limiting side effect experienced by head and neck cancer patients undergoing radiotherapy. Biorestorative Therapies’ candidate has completed early-stage clinical evaluation and is advancing through planned trials to assess safety and efficacy in reducing the duration and severity of oral mucositis. Preclinical studies have also been conducted to explore additional indications, including inflammatory and degenerative conditions. Headquartered in Malvern, Pennsylvania, Biorestorative Therapies manages its research, manufacturing and clinical development activities in the United States. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Stephen Kilmer, Investor Relations. You may begin. Stephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative Therapies00:00:09Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Let me start by pointing out that this conference call will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All forward-looking statements are based on BioRestorative Therapies' current beliefs, assumptions, and expectations, and such statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from those implied by such statements. No forward-looking statement can be guaranteed. For details on factors, among others, that could affect expectations, see Part 1, Item 1A, of our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2023, as amended, and Part 2, Item 1A, of our Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the period ended September 30th, 2024, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Stephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative Therapies00:01:01Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this conference call. BioRestorative undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, other than as required by law. On the call representing the company are Lance Alstodt, BioRestorative's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Francisco Silva, its Vice President of Research and Development, and Robert Kristal, the company's Chief Financial Officer. With that said, I'll now turn the call over to Lance. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:01:37Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the call on behalf of the management team and everyone here at BioRestorative. I'd like to thank you for your interest in our company, and for those of you who are shareholders, we obviously appreciate your support. As you can see from the press release that we issued earlier today, we continue to execute very well across all areas of our business in the third quarter. As excited as we are about our financial and operating performance this quarter and the progress that we're making in our ThermoStem program, it was really the preliminary phase 2 BRTX-100 data that we announced this morning that is most exciting, with very encouraging data for 10 patients at 26 weeks and 4 patients at a year. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:02:26Accordingly, we're going to break with tradition a little here, and rather than review our financial results, I'm going to ask Francisco to jump right into delivering the same BRTX-100 preliminary data slides that he gave today at the ORS PSRS Seventh International Spine Research Symposium. Of course, if you have any questions about the third quarter financial results, our ThermoStem brown fat program, or our commercial BioCosmeceuticals business, we'll be happy to answer them during the call's Q&A session as well. I'll turn it over to Francisco now. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:03:01Great. Thank you, Lance, and good afternoon, everyone. So our lead cell therapy candidate is BRTX-100. It's a novel cell-based therapeutic engineered to target areas of the body that have little blood flow and oxygen content. The product is formulated using autologous or your own cultured mesenchymal stem cells collected from the patient's bone marrow, as well as platelet lysate that's collected from the patient's blood. We intend that the product will be used for the nonsurgical treatment of painful lumbosacral disc disorders or as a complementary therapeutic to a surgical procedure. The safety and efficacy data of BRTX-100 in treating chronic lumbar disc disease, or CLDD, is being evaluated in an ongoing phase 2 prospective randomized double-blinded and sham-controlled study. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:03:53A total of up to 99 eligible subjects will be enrolled at up to 16 clinical sites across the United States, and subjects included in the trial will be randomized two to one to receive either BRTX or placebo with the sham-controlled. As Lance mentioned, I'm pleased to review the same slides that I discussed earlier today at a podium presentation at the ORS spine meeting. To go through the slide deck, I'm just going to quickly jump through some of the slides. Obviously, we have our boilerplate forward-looking statements. On slide three, I just want to quickly review the disc microenvironment, which is really important in understanding the impact of the product the way it's been designed and engineered, because it's really targeting the harsh microenvironment that's found within the disc. It has a very high osmolarity. It's low glucose. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:04:54It has very low oxygen tension of about 2%. Lactate levels are also low, and pH, which is extremely detrimental to cells. So this is important because when you're developing a biologic and you're trying to remodel the disc, especially within the nucleus pulposus, if you put cells in there that are not acclimated to this harsh environment, you're going to have a lot of cell death that could potentially cause the patient to experience worsening symptoms of the treatment, or the treatment might not work at all because the cells need to be alive for them to actually perform their anti-inflammatory activities. So really understanding the microenvironment is critical when developing a product, and that's what we have done over the last couple of years in developing our BRTX-100 product. So in the microenvironment, as a healthy disc degenerates. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:06:06I'm sorry, guys, but this is moving a little bit different. As the healthy disc degenerates. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:06:16Hey, Francisco. Francisco, I'm sorry. It's Lance. I think based on the investor profile on this call, it may be better to go right to kind of slide 17 and get to the punchline of the data. I think a lot of people understand the environment as well as the product candidate. Let's talk about the results. That's really the most exciting part of it. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:06:38Sure. Okay. Yeah. No problem, Lance. Yeah. So let's go to slide number 17. And in slide number 17 is the total of 10 patients that are treated using the product, BRTX-100. And in this particular group of patients that have been treated, you could see a direct correlation that at 26 weeks, 70% of the patients (again, this is blinded, but very, very encouraging) 70% of the patients had an improvement in both pain as well as function measured by the VAS and the ODI. So seven of the 10 improved, and three of the patients did not hit the benchmark of 30% improvement, which is dictated by the FDA as being efficacious. So that's very encouraging from the point of view of seeing that the data is falling in line within the randomization of the patients treated. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:07:46And we expect that this trend will continue to grow as the patients move on from the 26-week endpoint to the 52-week endpoint. And again, this is true as you review some of the other scales that we use for patient-reported outcomes, which is another one is the RMDQ, which is also showing a decrease in time in patients that have been treated with the clinical protocol in terms of either being in the sham or the treatment group, as well as the FRI, which is another scale that is used to determine efficacy. You see very similar trends in terms of the patient profile decreasing once the patients are enrolled in the trial. So to summarize, what we found is that very early, we're seeing very strong safety signals. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:08:46So we have not experienced to date any severe adverse event or dose-limiting toxicity or a current dose of 40 million cells injected intradiscally. So this is very, very encouraging, and this is our primary endpoint in terms of safety. So we feel very strong that this is going to continue throughout the trial. More importantly, is the efficacy, which is we're starting to see very strong trends emerge in both the VAS and the ODI, showing significance compared to baseline. And there's a responder rate that is also beginning to form now with the additional data that we're seeing that 7 of the 10 patients met the preliminary efficacy endpoint of improving by both 30% in pain and function. Another item that we're very encouraged about because we're starting to see a lot of this positive data emerge is that we're contemplating a 26-week preliminary efficacy endpoint interim analysis. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:09:58So that's something that's on the horizon for us. In addition to that, we're looking to expand the product profile and indication of BRTX-100 to include cervical indications. Thank you. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:10:16Thank you, Francisco. So as you can see from what Francisco just reviewed, the blinded preliminary clinical data of safety and efficacy endpoints from the ongoing phase 2 clinical trial for the treatment of chronic lumbar disc disease are very encouraging with patient-reported pain and function outcomes demonstrating a very clear and positive trend. So to summarize, at 26 weeks, like Francisco mentioned, 70% of the first 10 patients in the study reported a greater than 30% increase in function and a more than 30% decrease in pain. Now, I want to highlight that while the 30% increase in function and decrease in pain have been set forth by the FDA as preliminary endpoints for efficacy, we find those to be somewhat low, and we have demonstrated the ability to do far, far greater than those hurdles of 30%. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:11:20So if you look at each of these patients individually, those that responded, they responded far better than the 30%, some going as high as close to 90% improvement in pain and function and others circling around that sort of geography. So we're very pleased. We're very optimistic about these results. It really puts us in a position to continue with our enrollment, which we continue to progress well, and we expect to complete before the end of 2024. We know that if the data continues with this trend, we're confident that we will hit our efficacy endpoints for the phase 2 trial. And we will intend to present more of this data from the trial with an even larger patient population in the coming months. I expect to be somewhere early next year, January and February, with a larger group both out to 52 weeks and 26 weeks. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:12:27Finally, from a financial perspective, I'd be remiss by not mentioning that we ended the third quarter in a very strong position with cash, cash equivalents, and investments held in marketable securities: $13.1 million with no outstanding debt. That combined with our steadily improving financial performance provides us with additional financial flexibility and puts us on a path to profitability. So thank you very much for listening in. Those are our concluding remarks as it pertains to our prepared script, and we're happy to take any questions that you may have. Operator00:13:08Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Once again, please press Star 1 if you have a question or a comment. The first question comes from Jonathan Aschoff with Roth Capital. Please proceed. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:13:42Thanks, guys. Congrats, and thanks for sharing that data. How many patients are enrolled thus far? Are you only comfortable saying some number north of 10? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:13:54Yeah. It's considerably more than 10. We have not talked about that publicly, so we'll continue to take that approach as we continue to navigate the FDA on strategies of Fast Track and RMAT, etc. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:14:13Okay. So when was that data cut, the two weeks? Because when you show two weeks, it kind of makes someone think that there's not that many more than 10 because it's just two-week-old data. So when was that cut? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:14:29This data is several months old in terms of the two-week time point where some of the patients hit the two-week point. So yeah, we have more than 10 patient data. Most of the patient data where it'll be a lot more cumulative will be presented at ORS in February. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:14:56Okay. So now I can see why you're still sticking with 99 by year-end 2024. Thanks for that clarity. When will we see the first unblinded data? Do you intend to come out with additional 26 and 52-week data still on a blinded basis, or will we see it unblinded the next time? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:15:19No. It will still be blinded. Again, this is an academic conference where we're presenting. We have to be very careful how we present the data as well to maintain the blind. So that's something. Even though the results are impressive and very encouraging from the point of view of the emerging responder rate, but this is where we are so encouraged by the positive results is where we're looking at the possibility of an interim analysis at 26 weeks for the patients. And I think that would be an appropriate time to have unblinded data where we have the sham versus the treatment group with BRTX. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:01You can't postulate when that unblinded 26-week interim look might occur, can you? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:16:09I mean, again, I mean, it's all we need to make sure we don't compromise the integrity of the trial. There's a lot of logistics in terms of releasing, but if we were to do an interim analysis, it would be early next year. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:24Okay. I was. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:16:26I would. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:27Yes? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:16:28I would weigh in and commit to some time in the first half of 2025, but that's subject to further updates. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:16:37That's definitely helpful. So do you think the fourth patient that behaved like the other three, that back in February of this year, it was three versus one, and that was the split you were talking about? Do you think that fourth patient, the saline they got just eventually started to work, and that's why you have four of four, 52 weeks versus the clear line between three and four last February? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:17:01Yeah. And I think that's a great comment. And I mean, that's the beauty of a clinical trial is that if it's well-designed and the product is efficacious, you begin to see trends emerge. And that one subject is part of that group. That was saline-treated, and it's very well known that saline does have therapeutic effects that are not long-term maintained, but they do impact the trial. So we're very happy that we were able to amend our protocol to have now a sham group. And so at the 26 weeks, this is where the sham patients are being recorded. So we expect that presenting 52-week data of these particular patients, you'll have a better delta and a better view in terms of what's happening. But the 26-week data is. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:17:59So we're talking about. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:18:00Go ahead. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:18:02No. Can we be confident that the two placebos to be represented, two of the six extra patients that turned four into 10, did they both get shams, or perhaps did they get salines as well? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:18:16Only one patient received a saline injection. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:18:21Okay. Great. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:18:22Everyone else got the sham. And just to further your answer to that as well, as you look at the 52-week data with the four patients, now, we don't know which one has received the sham injection versus the BRTX-100, but there's considerable separation in the results. While all of them 100% achieved the 30%, it appears that one only achieved 30%, while the others achieved results far more significant than 30%. So we still see a separation there, and it's very possible that the placebo effect did take hold and the disc was further hydrated and lowered its pH and kind of maintained a healthier environment. So we can expect that, I guess, from time to time. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:19:16But to Francisco's point, the 26-week data where we have the sham injection, those are a little bit more bifurcated between those that responded and those that did not, and it kind of matches up with the randomization of two to one. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:19:34That's very helpful. Rob, how long do you think $13 million lasts? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:19:42I'll speak for Rob here. He's in the background. While we don't commit to timing, we don't anticipate having to do a financing anytime soon. We have all the cash that we need to achieve our strategic goals and get to an answer within this trial. Jonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners00:20:03Thank you very much, guys. Congrats. Stephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative Therapies00:20:06Thanks, Jonathan. Operator00:20:08The next question comes from Michael Okunewitch with Maxim Group. Please proceed. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:20:15Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my questions, and congrats on the really interesting data. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:20:22Thanks, Mike. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:20:22I guess to kick things off and just follow up a little bit on the point you were talking about just before on the 52-week data where you saw all four patients respond, could you just give an idea of the magnitude of response for, I guess, patients one through three versus patient four? Because I believe that's how it broke down at the prior interim blinded look where you had patients one, two, and three responding significantly more than patient four. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:20:56Yeah, and that trend is continuing. Again, we have to be careful in terms of how we present this data. We don't want to unblind, but the trend is continuing with one patient having some effect based on the randomization, but the other three patients are significantly lower, which is, again, the numbers range, but they're greater than 60% improvement compared to baseline. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:21:34All right. Thank you. And then just, I guess, more broadly, right, given what we have seen from the FDA seeming to be a bit more supportive of others in the cell therapy space, like we've seen with Capricor or Mesoblast, would it be possible that if you are able to achieve both pain and function in this study, could that be something that you could file for accelerated approval on? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:22:00We believe so. I mean, it's something that if, again, I mean, this is 10 patients, but the data is very encouraging considering what's been out there with either other clinical trials in the disc space or investigator-initiated studies. So we're very encouraged that this data, if it continues to show these effects, that we could potentially use this data for pivotal, which would really help us and accelerate the commercialization of the product, which is, I think, really needed in terms of the overall market in the U.S. in getting cell-based therapies approved, especially when you're looking at these musculoskeletal disorders, which are tremendous. So there's a huge market for it, and we're very confident with our product. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:22:56All right. Thank you, and then one last one from me, and I'll hop back into the queue. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:22:59Michael, I'll also mention that because of what you just mentioned and the temperature at the FDA in terms of its more pro-cell therapy view, we've changed some of our strategy to consider looking at this data as pivotal data, perhaps, and trying to accelerate that study as appropriate. So we do appreciate that comment, and we do believe that the FDA has taken a much more positive view of the sector in general. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:23:38Yeah. Thank you. And actually, that does lead somewhat into my next question. I just wanted to ask you a little bit about some of the secondaries that you would be looking at in the final unblinded data, and in particular, whether you will be looking at how the percent change from baseline varies between groups. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:23:59Can you repeat the question? I'm sorry. I didn't understand it. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:24:03Oh, just for the actual final unblinded data in terms of secondary endpoints, is something that you'll be looking at the % change from baseline on both the pain and function scales for the different groups in addition to the responder analysis? Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:24:22Right. So the FDA has guided that it's a 30% change is their MCID that they've put into our protocol. We feel that we can exceed that based on the trending data points that are coming out. And so we feel very strongly that we're going to not only hit the MCR/MCID in terms of efficacy, but we will be able to exceed that. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:24:56And we're also looking at. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:24:57Thank you. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:24:57Radiographic. We're also looking at radiographic endpoints and a whole host of other measures that we think would be just good general information for people to have to demonstrate that it's not just a subjective issue, but if we can demonstrate that there's radiographic improvement in the disc, that's a very powerful set of data. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:25:21Yeah. And just to add to that, that's really important here is that: keep in mind that we have not disclosed or released any MRI images of any of these patients. So that's something to look forward to in terms of additional evidence of the remodeling that's happening within the disc. Michael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim Group00:25:46All right. Well, thank you very much and once again, congratulations on the compelling data here. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:25:52Thanks so much, Michael. Appreciate it. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:25:53Thank you. Operator00:25:55Once again, if there are any remaining questions or comments, please indicate so by pressing star one. The next question comes from Elemer Piros with Rodman & Renshaw. Please proceed. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:26:06Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. What I'd like to ask was if you could remind us whether the pain improvement and the functional improvement are these co-primary endpoints. And if that is so, would you have to demonstrate it at the group level, or would you have to demonstrate it within the same patient that they both would have to improve at least 30% on the VAS and at least 30% on the ODI for them to be called a responder? Thank you for verifying that. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:26:46Yes. They have to both respond in both the VAS as well as the ODI to be labeled a responder. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:26:54So in the current study, you see, Francisco, that the 7 out of 10 is the 7 that responded. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:03Yes. Correct. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:27:04Pain improvement. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:05Function improvement. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:06Functional improvement. Yep. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:27:07Okay. And Elemer, thank you for your question. I think I know where you're going because there has been a bit of a change in thought within the agency, and people are now looking at just pain as opposed to function as well. It leaves us open strategically as we think about amending protocols as we go through this to really increase our probability of success by limiting it perhaps to just one factor such as pain because we do believe that there's precedent for that out there now. So it's something that we are discussing. But as of now, the protocol is written for both pain and function. And the good news for us is the responder group does clear that what we think is a minimal bar of 30% in both disciplines. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:28:03Yes. I mean, at the end of the day, if you were successful in both, that would make for a stronger argument for the product. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:13While also showing some changes radiographically and improvement in the physics of the disc would be also very interesting and compelling, which we intend to do. Elemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & Renshaw00:28:28Yes. That was all. Thank you so much. Francisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:32Thank you. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:32Thanks, Elemer. Appreciate it. Operator00:28:35We have no further questions in queue. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing remarks. Lance AlstodtChairman and CEO at BioRestorative Therapies00:28:45I would just say this is Lance on behalf of our team. We really appreciate you following us and spending the time to get further clarity on our quarterly accomplishments and certainly your interest in our clinical data. We will continue to update everyone as appropriate on new developments within our company. And we intend to have more data available in the January/February timeframe. So stay tuned. We're really excited to share with what we're working on. So have a great night, and thanks again for your interest. Operator00:29:25Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLance AlstodtChairman and CEOAnalystsJonathan AschoffSenior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital PartnersElemer PirosSenior Biotechnology Analys at Rodman & RenshawStephen KilmerHead of Investor Relations at BioRestorative TherapiesFrancisco SilvaVP of Research and Development at BioRestorative TherapiesMichael OkunewitchSenior Biotechnology Analyst at Maxim GroupPowered by