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Earnings HistoryForecast OppFi EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.33Consensus EPS $0.21Beat/MissBeat by +$0.12One Year Ago EPS$0.16OppFi Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$136.59 millionExpected Revenue$128.94 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$7.65 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AOppFi Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/7/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, November 7, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsOppFi's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by OppFi Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to Opdiv's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. After management's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, John Caicos, SVP, Controller. Operator00:00:34You may begin. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to Opdiv's Q3 2024 earnings call. Today, we have Executive Chairman and CEO, Todd Schwartz and CFO, Pam Johnson presenting our financial results before taking questions. You can access the earnings presentation on our website at investors. Opbuy.com. Speaker 100:01:01During this call, opphi may discuss certain forward looking information. Important factors that could cause actual results, developments and business decisions to differ materially from forward looking statements are described in the company's filings with the SEC. Please refer to Slide 2 of the earnings presentation for our disclaimer statements covering forward looking statements and references to information about non GAAP financial measures, which will be discussed throughout today's call. Reconciliation of those measures to GAAP measures can be found in the appendix to our earnings presentation. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Todd. Speaker 200:01:40Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. This quarter, we achieved record quarterly net income and revenue, which has enabled us to raise full year earnings guidance for the 3rd time this year. The record quarterly net income was a result of credit initiatives that continue to drive strong loss payment and recovery performance, marketing cost efficiency and prudent expense discipline across the organization. We're also proud that we have successfully executed on some of the strategic initiatives that we previously outlined during the past several quarters. We've also realized additional operational efficiencies that have continued to strengthen the core business and increased profitability. Speaker 200:02:25Pamela will review our Q3 results in detail and our earnings guidance increase for full year 2024. Before she does, I will cover the highlights. Total revenue increased to $136,600,000 a company record for any quarter. GAAP net income grew 106.4 percent to 32,100,000 dollars another Op Fi record for any quarter. And adjusted net income increased 116.2 percent year over year to $28,800,000 also a company record for any quarter. Speaker 200:03:05Our key highlights for the quarter compared to the prior year are a 5.4 percentage point increase in annualized average yield to 133.9 percent, an 8.1 percentage point improvement in the annualized net charge off rate as a percentage of total revenue to 34.3 percent, a 400 basis point improvement in total expenses as a percentage of total revenue to 41.1 percent and net income margin increased by 11.80 basis points to 23.5%, while adjusted net income margin expanded by 11.10 basis points to 21.1%. Throughout 2024, we have successfully executed on a number of operational initiatives designed to ensure continued future profitability growth. We also see additional opportunities to optimize our product structure with a goal of gaining volume while maximizing portfolio profitability. Operationally, our continued focus on process automation resulted in consistent year over year decreases in OpEx as a percentage of revenue, which led to 400 basis point decrease mentioned above. Going into 2025, we plan to continue these efforts as well as integrate future AI based enhancements in our operating model. Speaker 200:04:32OpFi has made tremendous progress the past two and a half years and we look forward to building upon the foundation that we have set. In closing, we believe OpFund is well positioned to build a leading credit access and financial services platform with a suite of digital financial service products for everyday Americans, serving large addressable markets that exist due to the supply demand imbalance in credit access. Our first step in executing on this vision was taken with our equity investment in Biddy to enter the small business financing market. We are encouraged by the early results and potential opportunity of this platform and the strength of our relationship with Biddie. We continue to explore similar opportunities that would be accretive and aligned with OPPAI's strategic vision. Speaker 200:05:22With that, I'll turn the call over to Pam. Speaker 300:05:26Thanks, Todd, and good morning, everyone. For the Q3, total revenue increased 2.6% to $136,600,000 year over year with a 540 basis point improvement in average yield annualized to 133.9%. Total net originations increased 11.8% to $218,800,000 while total retained net originations increased 4.0 percent to $198,400,000 as a result of our originations growth outpacing the growth in the percentage of loans retained by our bank partners. From a mix perspective, 53.2 percent of originations were to existing customers and 46.8% were to new customers. During the quarter, we and our bank partners continue to emphasize loans to existing customers since those loans have historically performed better than those to new customers. Speaker 300:06:22Credit performance during the Q3 supported this strategy as refinanced loans to existing customers had lower delinquencies than loans to new customers. On an absolute basis, new customer originations for the quarter increased by 18.8% year over year, while existing customer originations increased by 6.3%. The year over year increase in new customer originations was the result of strategic credit and marketing initiatives designed to increase originations in lower risk segments. The annualized net charge off rate as a percentage of average receivables decreased by 8 60 basis points to 45.9% for the 3rd quarter, compared to 54.5% for the prior year quarter. And the annualized net charge off rate as a percentage of total revenue decreased by 8 10 basis points to 34.3%, compared to 42.4% last year. Speaker 300:07:16Turning to expenses, total expenses were $56,100,000 or 41.1 percent of total revenue compared to $60,100,000 or 45.1 percent of total revenue in the Q3 last year. Interest expense totaled $11,300,000 or 8.3 percent of total revenue compared to $12,100,000 or 9.1 percent of total revenue in the same period a year ago, impacted by lower borrowings and a reduction in rates. Adjusted net income was $28,800,000 compared to $13,300,000 for the period last year. Adjusted earnings were $0.33 per share compared to $0.16 in the Q3 last year. For the 3 months ended September 30, 2024, Op Fi had 86,700,000 weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the calculation of adjusted earnings per share. Speaker 300:08:08We believe our balance sheet remains healthy with cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash of $74,200,000 total debt of $325,600,000 and total stockholders' equity of $220,300,000 as of the end of the 3rd quarter. We ended the period with $599,200,000 in funding capacity, including $199,400,000 of unused debt capacity under financing facilities. Now turning to our outlook. For the full year 2024, we are increasing our adjusted net income guidance to $74,000,000 to $76,000,000 which represents a 17% increase from our prior range of $63,000,000 to $65,000,000 This results in anticipated adjusted earnings per share of $0.85 to $0.87 compared to the previous range of $0.73 to $0.75 We are reiterating guidance for total revenue of $510,000,000 to $530,000,000 and are currently pacing towards the midpoint of this range. Looking forward to 2025, we expect our positive momentum to continue with Q1 adjusted net income growth in excess of 15% year over year. Speaker 300:09:17As a reminder, we typically experience significant seasonality in the demand for loans on our platform, which is generally lower in the Q1. Therefore, our potential Q1 earnings growth shouldn't be extrapolated out to the full year. We plan to introduce full year 2025 guidance when we report our 2024 full year results in March. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. Operator? Operator00:10:33And we do have a question. We'll move first to Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 400:10:42Hey guys, this is Luke on for Mike. Congrats on the nice quarter. Just wanted to dive a little deeper into the improvement in yields, improving 5% year over year. Just wondering how much of that was due to pricing versus mix and any other color you guys can provide on that? Speaker 200:11:03Yes. Thanks for the question. I think it's a combination of better credit, people paying us back at a higher rate, but also in last year, we had retired some lower risk based pricing initiatives that is causing the yield to increase year over year. We also are starting to test pricing into some other segments as well, which has added to that, but it's a combination of the three things. Speaker 400:11:35Okay. Got it. And then just looking out ahead into 2025 here, what are the biggest goals for you guys? Or what are you kind of most focused on or maybe top 2 or 3 priorities? Speaker 200:11:46Yes. I mean, we got the business performing really, really well right now. And if you look at our auto approvals continuing to increase that another 5% to 7% for the quarter over quarter. So we're really excited about the business is performing and our funnel is very efficient. I think we're focused on growth. Speaker 200:12:08We have a lot of levers and growth initiatives that we've been testing and we're starting to feel our confidence level in the credit, for our customers and our ability to find new volume in different segments, but also with different marketing and channel partners is growing. And so we're looking for to grow the business and continue to push on operational efficiencies. We've got a call we mentioned some of these AI tools that we're going to be supplementing our ops with to help continue to expand while getting more efficient on the upside. Speaker 400:12:46Got it. And then just looking at the capital allocation going forward, I know you guys paid the special quarterly dividend. Just wondering about if dividends is something that you're thinking about going forward, if share repurchases have continued in the Q4, just any other sort of color around capital allocation? Speaker 200:13:11Yes. Good question. We're always looking for the highest and best use for our cash. Obviously, our balance sheet is in good shape. And it's something that next year we will look that special dividend is definitely something we're going to be looking at. Speaker 200:13:27I think we're also holding capital back for some strategic M and A initiatives. Like in the Q2, we had paid down some corporate debt. So we're using our cash as most efficiently as we possibly can and for the highest and best use where we see a return. Speaker 400:13:46Got it. Makes sense. Well, thank you guys for taking the questions and congrats again on a very nice quarter. Speaker 200:13:52Thank you. Appreciate it. Operator00:13:55We'll take our next question from David Storms with Stonegate. Your line is open. Speaker 500:14:03Good morning. Just wanted to kind of start, you just mentioned some strategic M and A initiatives as a potential use for cash. Would you be willing to kind of lay out what a target profile would look like? Would it be similar to equity stake like a Biddy transaction, maybe any geographic targets, anything of that nature would be very helpful? Yes. Speaker 200:14:28I mean, we're looking at both. I mean, I think whatever it is, it's got to be something that's highly accretive. I mean, Opdiv's vision is to be a platform for digital alternative financial service products where we see large supply demand imbalances, in large addressable markets. There's definitely different profiles of business out there, different situations are pretty it's pretty bespoke. But we're prepared handle either or. Speaker 200:14:57So it has to make sense for us though. And obviously we're going to protect and mitigate risk with anything we do to make sure that it's successful and make sure that we're going to be getting a return on our capital. It's highly accretive to shareholders. Speaker 500:15:15Understood. That's very helpful. And I was a tad late to the call, so apologies if this is redundant. But just any puts and takes on guidance, great to see that revenue was held up and profitability raised the guidance there. Anything that you're seeing that's giving you confidence specifically to raise that guidance? Speaker 200:15:34Yes. We're seeing a really strong credit performance, especially in our existing book, which allows feels confident that we can continue to test different marketing partner channels, expand that a little bit, also testing some pricing in the segments to find some new volume. And I think it also gives us confidence for next year that we have some levers for growth. We've been very disciplined on our approach on cost per acquisition. Also on the new side, we've been pretty cautious coming out of 2022 and it's bode well for us. Speaker 200:16:12We put ourselves in a really good position with optionality here for growth coming out into 2025. And we think that we have some levers and we have some new channels and segments that we can definitely look to next year for some growth. Speaker 500:16:29Understood. And then just one more maybe macro level question for me. In the last 6 months, we've seen Fed break cut. We just finished up an election in the U. S. Speaker 500:16:40As you're looking out to the next maybe quarter or 2, any macro catalysts you're keeping your eyes on? I know there's another maybe couple Fed rate cuts that maybe on the docket. Anything else that you feel is important? Speaker 200:16:53Yes. Well, listen, I mean, it's nice to obviously get a little wind at the back there. I think quarter over quarter, we saw about a 50 basis point drop in interest cost, which is great, great to see. We can't really predict what the Fed is going to do. Any cost savings there would is not something we necessarily plan for, but would just be enhance our returns. Speaker 200:17:20But we're looking forward to an environment where we've kind of had that headwind for the last 2 years. So it would be great to obviously lower that interest cost. Speaker 500:17:32Understood. Thank you for taking my questions and good luck in Q4. Speaker 200:17:36Thank you. Appreciate it. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to Opdiv's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. After management's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, John Caicos, SVP, Controller. Operator00:00:34You may begin. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to Opdiv's Q3 2024 earnings call. Today, we have Executive Chairman and CEO, Todd Schwartz and CFO, Pam Johnson presenting our financial results before taking questions. You can access the earnings presentation on our website at investors. Opbuy.com. Speaker 100:01:01During this call, opphi may discuss certain forward looking information. Important factors that could cause actual results, developments and business decisions to differ materially from forward looking statements are described in the company's filings with the SEC. Please refer to Slide 2 of the earnings presentation for our disclaimer statements covering forward looking statements and references to information about non GAAP financial measures, which will be discussed throughout today's call. Reconciliation of those measures to GAAP measures can be found in the appendix to our earnings presentation. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Todd. Speaker 200:01:40Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. This quarter, we achieved record quarterly net income and revenue, which has enabled us to raise full year earnings guidance for the 3rd time this year. The record quarterly net income was a result of credit initiatives that continue to drive strong loss payment and recovery performance, marketing cost efficiency and prudent expense discipline across the organization. We're also proud that we have successfully executed on some of the strategic initiatives that we previously outlined during the past several quarters. We've also realized additional operational efficiencies that have continued to strengthen the core business and increased profitability. Speaker 200:02:25Pamela will review our Q3 results in detail and our earnings guidance increase for full year 2024. Before she does, I will cover the highlights. Total revenue increased to $136,600,000 a company record for any quarter. GAAP net income grew 106.4 percent to 32,100,000 dollars another Op Fi record for any quarter. And adjusted net income increased 116.2 percent year over year to $28,800,000 also a company record for any quarter. Speaker 200:03:05Our key highlights for the quarter compared to the prior year are a 5.4 percentage point increase in annualized average yield to 133.9 percent, an 8.1 percentage point improvement in the annualized net charge off rate as a percentage of total revenue to 34.3 percent, a 400 basis point improvement in total expenses as a percentage of total revenue to 41.1 percent and net income margin increased by 11.80 basis points to 23.5%, while adjusted net income margin expanded by 11.10 basis points to 21.1%. Throughout 2024, we have successfully executed on a number of operational initiatives designed to ensure continued future profitability growth. We also see additional opportunities to optimize our product structure with a goal of gaining volume while maximizing portfolio profitability. Operationally, our continued focus on process automation resulted in consistent year over year decreases in OpEx as a percentage of revenue, which led to 400 basis point decrease mentioned above. Going into 2025, we plan to continue these efforts as well as integrate future AI based enhancements in our operating model. Speaker 200:04:32OpFi has made tremendous progress the past two and a half years and we look forward to building upon the foundation that we have set. In closing, we believe OpFund is well positioned to build a leading credit access and financial services platform with a suite of digital financial service products for everyday Americans, serving large addressable markets that exist due to the supply demand imbalance in credit access. Our first step in executing on this vision was taken with our equity investment in Biddy to enter the small business financing market. We are encouraged by the early results and potential opportunity of this platform and the strength of our relationship with Biddie. We continue to explore similar opportunities that would be accretive and aligned with OPPAI's strategic vision. Speaker 200:05:22With that, I'll turn the call over to Pam. Speaker 300:05:26Thanks, Todd, and good morning, everyone. For the Q3, total revenue increased 2.6% to $136,600,000 year over year with a 540 basis point improvement in average yield annualized to 133.9%. Total net originations increased 11.8% to $218,800,000 while total retained net originations increased 4.0 percent to $198,400,000 as a result of our originations growth outpacing the growth in the percentage of loans retained by our bank partners. From a mix perspective, 53.2 percent of originations were to existing customers and 46.8% were to new customers. During the quarter, we and our bank partners continue to emphasize loans to existing customers since those loans have historically performed better than those to new customers. Speaker 300:06:22Credit performance during the Q3 supported this strategy as refinanced loans to existing customers had lower delinquencies than loans to new customers. On an absolute basis, new customer originations for the quarter increased by 18.8% year over year, while existing customer originations increased by 6.3%. The year over year increase in new customer originations was the result of strategic credit and marketing initiatives designed to increase originations in lower risk segments. The annualized net charge off rate as a percentage of average receivables decreased by 8 60 basis points to 45.9% for the 3rd quarter, compared to 54.5% for the prior year quarter. And the annualized net charge off rate as a percentage of total revenue decreased by 8 10 basis points to 34.3%, compared to 42.4% last year. Speaker 300:07:16Turning to expenses, total expenses were $56,100,000 or 41.1 percent of total revenue compared to $60,100,000 or 45.1 percent of total revenue in the Q3 last year. Interest expense totaled $11,300,000 or 8.3 percent of total revenue compared to $12,100,000 or 9.1 percent of total revenue in the same period a year ago, impacted by lower borrowings and a reduction in rates. Adjusted net income was $28,800,000 compared to $13,300,000 for the period last year. Adjusted earnings were $0.33 per share compared to $0.16 in the Q3 last year. For the 3 months ended September 30, 2024, Op Fi had 86,700,000 weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the calculation of adjusted earnings per share. Speaker 300:08:08We believe our balance sheet remains healthy with cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash of $74,200,000 total debt of $325,600,000 and total stockholders' equity of $220,300,000 as of the end of the 3rd quarter. We ended the period with $599,200,000 in funding capacity, including $199,400,000 of unused debt capacity under financing facilities. Now turning to our outlook. For the full year 2024, we are increasing our adjusted net income guidance to $74,000,000 to $76,000,000 which represents a 17% increase from our prior range of $63,000,000 to $65,000,000 This results in anticipated adjusted earnings per share of $0.85 to $0.87 compared to the previous range of $0.73 to $0.75 We are reiterating guidance for total revenue of $510,000,000 to $530,000,000 and are currently pacing towards the midpoint of this range. Looking forward to 2025, we expect our positive momentum to continue with Q1 adjusted net income growth in excess of 15% year over year. Speaker 300:09:17As a reminder, we typically experience significant seasonality in the demand for loans on our platform, which is generally lower in the Q1. Therefore, our potential Q1 earnings growth shouldn't be extrapolated out to the full year. We plan to introduce full year 2025 guidance when we report our 2024 full year results in March. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. Operator? Operator00:10:33And we do have a question. We'll move first to Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 400:10:42Hey guys, this is Luke on for Mike. Congrats on the nice quarter. Just wanted to dive a little deeper into the improvement in yields, improving 5% year over year. Just wondering how much of that was due to pricing versus mix and any other color you guys can provide on that? Speaker 200:11:03Yes. Thanks for the question. I think it's a combination of better credit, people paying us back at a higher rate, but also in last year, we had retired some lower risk based pricing initiatives that is causing the yield to increase year over year. We also are starting to test pricing into some other segments as well, which has added to that, but it's a combination of the three things. Speaker 400:11:35Okay. Got it. And then just looking out ahead into 2025 here, what are the biggest goals for you guys? Or what are you kind of most focused on or maybe top 2 or 3 priorities? Speaker 200:11:46Yes. I mean, we got the business performing really, really well right now. And if you look at our auto approvals continuing to increase that another 5% to 7% for the quarter over quarter. So we're really excited about the business is performing and our funnel is very efficient. I think we're focused on growth. Speaker 200:12:08We have a lot of levers and growth initiatives that we've been testing and we're starting to feel our confidence level in the credit, for our customers and our ability to find new volume in different segments, but also with different marketing and channel partners is growing. And so we're looking for to grow the business and continue to push on operational efficiencies. We've got a call we mentioned some of these AI tools that we're going to be supplementing our ops with to help continue to expand while getting more efficient on the upside. Speaker 400:12:46Got it. And then just looking at the capital allocation going forward, I know you guys paid the special quarterly dividend. Just wondering about if dividends is something that you're thinking about going forward, if share repurchases have continued in the Q4, just any other sort of color around capital allocation? Speaker 200:13:11Yes. Good question. We're always looking for the highest and best use for our cash. Obviously, our balance sheet is in good shape. And it's something that next year we will look that special dividend is definitely something we're going to be looking at. Speaker 200:13:27I think we're also holding capital back for some strategic M and A initiatives. Like in the Q2, we had paid down some corporate debt. So we're using our cash as most efficiently as we possibly can and for the highest and best use where we see a return. Speaker 400:13:46Got it. Makes sense. Well, thank you guys for taking the questions and congrats again on a very nice quarter. Speaker 200:13:52Thank you. Appreciate it. Operator00:13:55We'll take our next question from David Storms with Stonegate. Your line is open. Speaker 500:14:03Good morning. Just wanted to kind of start, you just mentioned some strategic M and A initiatives as a potential use for cash. Would you be willing to kind of lay out what a target profile would look like? Would it be similar to equity stake like a Biddy transaction, maybe any geographic targets, anything of that nature would be very helpful? Yes. Speaker 200:14:28I mean, we're looking at both. I mean, I think whatever it is, it's got to be something that's highly accretive. I mean, Opdiv's vision is to be a platform for digital alternative financial service products where we see large supply demand imbalances, in large addressable markets. There's definitely different profiles of business out there, different situations are pretty it's pretty bespoke. But we're prepared handle either or. Speaker 200:14:57So it has to make sense for us though. And obviously we're going to protect and mitigate risk with anything we do to make sure that it's successful and make sure that we're going to be getting a return on our capital. It's highly accretive to shareholders. Speaker 500:15:15Understood. That's very helpful. And I was a tad late to the call, so apologies if this is redundant. But just any puts and takes on guidance, great to see that revenue was held up and profitability raised the guidance there. Anything that you're seeing that's giving you confidence specifically to raise that guidance? Speaker 200:15:34Yes. We're seeing a really strong credit performance, especially in our existing book, which allows feels confident that we can continue to test different marketing partner channels, expand that a little bit, also testing some pricing in the segments to find some new volume. And I think it also gives us confidence for next year that we have some levers for growth. We've been very disciplined on our approach on cost per acquisition. Also on the new side, we've been pretty cautious coming out of 2022 and it's bode well for us. Speaker 200:16:12We put ourselves in a really good position with optionality here for growth coming out into 2025. And we think that we have some levers and we have some new channels and segments that we can definitely look to next year for some growth. Speaker 500:16:29Understood. And then just one more maybe macro level question for me. In the last 6 months, we've seen Fed break cut. We just finished up an election in the U. S. Speaker 500:16:40As you're looking out to the next maybe quarter or 2, any macro catalysts you're keeping your eyes on? I know there's another maybe couple Fed rate cuts that maybe on the docket. Anything else that you feel is important? Speaker 200:16:53Yes. Well, listen, I mean, it's nice to obviously get a little wind at the back there. I think quarter over quarter, we saw about a 50 basis point drop in interest cost, which is great, great to see. We can't really predict what the Fed is going to do. Any cost savings there would is not something we necessarily plan for, but would just be enhance our returns. Speaker 200:17:20But we're looking forward to an environment where we've kind of had that headwind for the last 2 years. So it would be great to obviously lower that interest cost. Speaker 500:17:32Understood. Thank you for taking my questions and good luck in Q4. Speaker 200:17:36Thank you. Appreciate it. Operator00:17:52And it does appear that there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Todd for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 200:18:01Yes. I just want to thank everyone for joining our Q3 earnings call and I really look forward to seeing and hearing everybody on our Q4 earnings call coming up in March next year.Read morePowered by