NYSE:CIO City Office REIT Q4 2023 Earnings Results & Report City Office REIT missed analyst expectations on both earnings and revenue in its Q4 2023 results, released February 22, 2024. The company reported EPS of -$0.11 versus the $0.31 consensus estimate, while revenue of $44.32 million fell short of the $44.47 million estimate by $150.00 thousand. Research:Profile Earnings Announcement Details QuarterQ4 2023Report DateFebruary 22, 2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call11:00 AM ET City Office REIT EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.11Consensus EPS $0.31Beat/MissMissed by -$0.42One Year Ago EPS$0.38EPS Beat Rate4 of last 8 quartersCity Office REIT Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$44.32 millionExpected Revenue$44.47 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$150.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Company ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by City Office REIT Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 22, 2024ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways City Office REIT delivered a 2023 core FFO per share of $1.39, met its AFFO payout ratio target of 66%, and reported Q4 core FFO of $0.33 and AFFO of $0.23 per share; full-year 2024 core FFO guidance is set at $1.18–$1.22 to reflect higher interest costs and assumed $21 million in dispositions. Leasing momentum accelerated with 599,000 sq ft of new and renewal leases in 2023 (including a Q4 high of 109,000 sq ft at an average 8-year term) and a robust Q1 pipeline exceeding 200,000 sq ft, highlighted by four prospective leases averaging over 40,000 sq ft each. Despite a 57% drop in office sales volumes and frozen debt capital markets, return-to-office mandates from major tech firms, the slowest new construction starts in over 20 years, moderating sublease availability and a “flight-to-quality” trend are viewed as supportive of demand for well-located, amenity-rich assets. The Block 23 Phoenix WeWork lease was rejected effective February 7, triggering a $1 million letter of credit draw and litigation over withheld rent; WeWork has agreed to repay January and February rent by month-end, while City Office negotiates with alternative coworking operators to backfill the space. As of December 31, City Office held $670 million of debt (6.6× net debt/EBITDA), $90 million undrawn on its credit facility and $43 million of cash, and faces $102 million of maturities in 2024—including a likely $21 million handback of the Cascade Station loan—while prioritizing liquidity, debt extensions and value-enhancing projects. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCity Office REIT Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the City Office REIT, Inc Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. If you require operator assistance throughout, please press star, then zero. It is now my pleasure to introduce you to Tony Maretic, the company's Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary. Thank you, Mr. Maretic. You may begin. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:00:44Good morning. Before we begin, I'd like to direct you to our website at cioreit.com, where you can view our fourth quarter earnings press release and supplemental information package. The earnings release and supplemental package both include a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures that will be discussed today to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Certain statements made today that discuss the company's beliefs or expectations, or that are not based on historical fact, may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Although the company believes that these expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, we can give no assurance that these expectations will be achieved. Please see the forward-looking statements disclaimer in our fourth quarter earnings press release and the company's filings with the SEC for factors that could cause material differences between forward-looking statements and actual results. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:01:39The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements that may be made in the course of this call. I'll review our financial results after Jamie Farrar, our Chief Executive Officer, discusses some of the quarter's operational highlights. I'll now turn the call over to Jamie. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:01:55Good morning, and thanks for joining today. On this call, I'd like to touch on several topics. First, a look back at our performance in 2023, then an overview on the state of the office market, and last, updates on our progress and focus areas for 2024. Overall, 2023 was in line with our expectations. Our Core FFO per share ended the year at $1.39, which was within the guidance range we set at the beginning of 2023. Our performance led to dividend coverage for the year with a total AFFO payout ratio of 66%. Operationally, we executed 599,000 sq ft of new and renewal leasing throughout the year. Our pipeline of leasing prospects gained considerable momentum as the year progressed. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:02:51In the fourth quarter, we executed 109,000 sq ft of new leases, which was the highest level of any quarter in 2023. The average term of those leases was a healthy eight years. Our occupancy also ended the year approximately where we expected it to land, and we achieved 3% same-store Cash NOI growth for 2023 as compared to the prior year. Last, during 2023, we renewed two property loans for five years each, which was a success in an otherwise challenging financing market. I'll use this as a transition to provide an update on the state of the office market. There continue to be headwinds in certain areas and promising green shoots in others. On the challenging side, the investment sales market continues to be very slow. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:03:48Across the office market in 2023, sales volumes was down 57% year-over-year. Within the limited transactions that closed, many were aided by seller financing or assumable debt. Debt capital also continues to be effectively frozen for new originations, with lenders seeking to reduce their office sector exposure. We're closely monitoring these trends and remain in active dialogue with our own lending relationships. On the side of positive trends, the corporate pressure on employees to return to the office continues to gather momentum. Major companies, including employers such as Google, Meta, Salesforce, and Amazon, to name a few, have all shifted their policies towards more consistent in-office collaboration. Having employees attending the office a minimum of three days a week, which appears to be a common current policy, should bolster overall space needs and benefit high-quality office assets. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:04:56We believe these trends will further strengthen throughout 2024. Another helpful change is the rapid slowdown in new construction. Q4 2023 had the least amount of ground broken for new office buildings in over 20 years, according to JLL. The projects that are breaking ground are generally build-to-suit or pre-leased, with almost no new spec projects underway. This will help shift the supply-demand balance as obsolete buildings get removed from inventory without being replaced. Subleasing is also moderating, with Q4 starting to indicate an equilibrium or decrease of sublease availability across many office markets. Relating to leasing trends, the flight to quality trend continues, which benefits our portfolio. According to JLL's research, 60% of total vacancy is concentrated in just 10% of buildings. Leasing demand continues to be highest for well-located premier buildings that have amenities and ready-to-lease space.... Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:06:08That leads us to our update on our progress so far in 2024. The leasing momentum that we experienced in the fourth quarter carried over into 2024. Today, we're actively pursuing a leasing pipeline that exceeds 200,000 sq ft. Of note, last year, larger corporate user lease discussions were less frequent, with most of last year's activity in the small to medium-sized suite range. Within our current pipeline, we are in active lease negotiations with four companies that average over 40,000 sq ft per lease. The return of these larger corporate tenants is a positive development, which has the potential to reaccelerate leasing results. Our leasing pipeline is in part driven by our spec suite and renovation programs that we've been focused on for the last two years. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:07:06We currently have 84,000 sq ft of built spec suites in our inventory, with 19,000 sq ft under construction or planned to commence in 2024. Combined with renovations such as our Pima Center property in Phoenix, these investments are allowing us to compete for a larger share of leasing across our markets. As a status update on WeWork, they continue to operate in bankruptcy. As a reminder, at year-end, we had three WeWork leases at our newest and best properties. On our last call, we highlighted that WeWork's Raleigh and Dallas operations in our buildings appear to be performing well from an occupancy standpoint. However, their Phoenix location at Block 23 had lower occupancy as it was still in a lease-up phase, having been opened for just over a year. Block 23 is an incredible, newly constructed building that is one of the top properties in Phoenix. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:08:08We did not come to terms with WeWork on a lease restructuring, and the Block 23 lease was rejected effective February seventh. City Office holds a $1 million letter of credit as additional security for this lease, which is being drawn and applied against our costs and lost income. As discussed on our last call, we've been working with other coworking operators to rebrand this location in the event of a WeWork departure. We continue to keep all of our options open, but are in late stage negotiations with another high-quality coworking operator. We are working to have this location backfilled quickly, and we'll provide further details on our next call. In terms of collection of rent from WeWork, they withheld January and February rent payments at Block 23 and The Terraces as part of their lease negotiation tactics. In response, we immediately initiated litigation. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:09:04Ultimately, WeWork have now agreed to repay these overdue amounts by the end of February in exchange for us dropping our litigation. Bottom line, we remain very confident in our position. Our Block 83, Terraces, and Block 23 properties are three of the most desirable office assets in the entirety of Raleigh, Dallas, and Phoenix. Irrespective of what happens with WeWork, these are incredible new buildings and are exactly what tenants want to lease today. With that, I'll turn to our outlook for the balance of 2024. Tony will provide more detail, but in broad strokes, we have several focus areas. First, we remain focused on executing new leasing and driving occupancy. Related to that, we will further our spec suite and property renovation programs to optimally position our spaces for success. We believe the timing of these enhancements aligns with market demand. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:10:02Second, we continue to prioritize maintaining liquidity, protecting capital, and addressing debt maturities in a prudent manner. And last, our DNA as a company has always been to uncover creative ways to unlock value at our properties, and in 2024, we're looking to advance a few promising projects. While these initiatives remain at an earlier stage, we've been focused on finding ways to advance shareholder value. With that, I'll hand the call over to Tony to discuss our financial results and guidance in more detail. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:10:35Thanks, Jamie. Our Net Operating Income in the fourth quarter was $26.9 million, which is $300,000 higher than the amount we reported in the third quarter. Fourth quarter NOI was impacted by two offsetting accounting transactions. First, we wrote off $1.4 million in straight-line rent receivables and above-market lease amortization related to the WeWork lease at Block 23. Also during the quarter, the company recognized $1.5 million of income due to the reversal of an accrued liability for a tenant improvement reimbursement that was no longer owed as the claim period had expired. The net impact of these two transactions was an increase to NOI of $100,000. We reported core AFFO of $13.5 million, or $0.33 per share for the fourth quarter. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:11:33This was $200,000 lower than in the third quarter, as slightly higher G&A and interest costs offset higher NOI. Our fourth quarter AFFO was $9.3 million, or $0.23 per share, which resulted in a well-covered dividend this quarter. The largest impacts to AFFO were costs related to our ready-to-lease spec suites and vacancy conditioning program, which are key parts of our business plan. The total investment in spec suites and vacancy conditioning in the fourth quarter was $900,000 or $0.02 per share. Moving on to some of our operational metrics. Our fourth quarter same-store cash NOI change was -0.5% or $100,000 lower as compared to the fourth quarter of 2022. Same-store cash NOI grew by 3% for the year ended December 31st, 2023, as compared to the prior year. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:12:34Block 83 in Raleigh and Park Tower in Tampa had the largest year-over-year increases due to slightly higher occupancy and free rent in the prior year comp period as a result of signed leases. Our retention rate in the quarter was 21%, which was significantly impacted by the 70,000 sq ft of lease departures at our Portland properties alone during the quarter. Consistent with JLL's market research that Jamie mentioned, the vacancy we have experienced in our portfolio is concentrated in a smaller subset of our properties. Our portfolio occupancy ended the quarter at 84.5%, including 114,000 sq ft of signed leases that have not yet commenced. Our occupancy was 86.5% as of quarter end. Our total debt as of December 31st was $670 million. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:13:33Our net debt, including restricted cash to EBITDA, was 6.6x. We had over $90 million of undrawn authorized on our credit facility. We also had cash and restricted cash of $43 million as of quarter end. As far as our debt maturities, in 2024, we had four scheduled maturities for a total of $102 million. The first, we have talked about on prior calls. In May, the $21 million non-recourse property loan at our Cascade Station property in Portland will mature. In December 2022, we recorded an impairment in that asset's value that effectively wrote off our equity value. We are in continued discussions with that lender. Portland continues to be a challenging market, and without some form of material loan modifications, it is difficult to justify investing further equity into this asset today. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:14:27At Central Fairwinds, we have a property loan with a $16 million principal balance that matures in June. This is the same lender that we successfully renewed two property loans in mid-2023. At FRP Ingenuity Drive, there is a property loan with a balance of $16 million that matures at the end of the year in December. We are currently working on an early extension there. Last, we have a $50 million corporate term loan with our line of credit banks that matures in September. Similarly, we have initiated discussions and expect to provide an update next quarter. Changing gears to guidance. We have introduced new full year 2024 guidance in our fourth quarter press release. I'll walk through a few of the key points. We have assumed no acquisitions for the year, and we have included $21 million of dispositions. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:15:19This $21 million reflects our Cascade Station property in Portland and our assumption that unless we are able to achieve material loan modifications, that property would likely be a disposition to the lender. Related to our interest rate assumptions for debt that is floating rate, we have assumed flat interest rates and have not baked in any potential reference rate decreases in 2024. Our G&A range is $14.5 million-$15.5 million for 2024. This is the same range we had for the prior year. The result of our assumptions is a core FFO per share range of $1.18-$1.22. Our projected 2024 core FFO is approximately $6 million lower than our 2023 actual core FFO. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:16:10We are expecting interest expense to increase by approximately $3 million year-over-year due to higher rates on property-level debt renewals and a higher average balance on our credit facility. Cascade Station occupancy declines year-over-year and assumed disposition will lower leverage, but also result in a $2 million reduction to Core FFO in 2024 as compared to 2023. Last, approximately $1 million of that reduction relates to the assumption on the former WeWork space at our Block 23 property. We have assumed no income in 2024 with this operation, but forecast to return to a similar monthly revenue stream beginning in 2025 if we complete the pending transaction with a replacement coworking operator. We will revisit these assumptions in the quarters ahead as the results solidify. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:17:02We refer you to the material assumptions and considerations set forth in our earnings release for further details. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we will open up the line for questions. Operator? Operator00:17:16Thank you. We will now start the Q&A portion of today's call. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star, followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. Our first question today comes from Upal Rana from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead with your question. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:39Great. Thank you. Good morning out there. Thanks for taking the question. Thanks for all the detail from the debt maturities and the assets that you have provided. You know, I was just curious on Cascade Station, how's the marketability of the asset? You know, any conversation you had with potential buyers, or is it just really likely that you'll probably give the asset back to the lender? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:18:06... Thanks for the question. So we did launch a marketing process kind of mid last year, and Portland has just been probably the most challenging market we have, and one of the tougher in the entire country. So, you know, we did not have any prospects that were, you know, close to where the debt level is, and that hasn't changed. So I think absent any sort of, you know, material concessions from the lender that make it logical for us to put more money in, that'll be one that transitions back to the lender and we cancel the debt. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:18:44Okay, got it. And how is that gonna be impacting your occupancy this year? You need to just give me the trajectory of, you expect occupancy to be somewhat up, by the end of next year, this year. And, I'm assuming that's gonna have some sort of impact in driving a little bit of the occupancy, guidance. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:19:04It's a fairly small impact because the asset is really small. It's 128,000 sq ft, so in our own forecasting, you know, we think it'll exit our results kind of mid this year. So at the end of the year, there would be a slight uptick from that, but that's not the real driver of the improvement. It really is from getting leasing done. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:28Okay, got it. And then from your same-store Cash NOI, you know, you expect it to be flat this year compared to 3% last year. Could you walk us through some of the moving pieces that's impacting the growth? Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:19:43Yeah. So we're showing effectively flat for 2024. And so, you know, the drivers are, you know, it's our same-store number is a cash number, and so we are, you know, Cascade, we talked about. There are some departures there that will impact results in Q1 and Q2 until if we do transfer it to the lender, so that'll have a negative impact on results. And then offsetting that would be the new leasing. We have a 114,000 sq ft leases that haven't taken occupancy. They will take occupancy in 2024. Some of them have free rent periods, so it'll have no impact, but by later parts of the year, it'll start factoring into the numbers to offset the negatives to kind of end the year effectively flat. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:20:30So Upal, it's Jamie again. So the one thing, and I can't stress enough, is the leasing pipeline really has improved. In our own views, when you look at free rent and, you know, build-out periods, there's not gonna be much impact to our cash flow in 2024 from that, but we see that really establishing and pushing 2025 and beyond. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:55Okay, got it. And then just one last one for me is, you mentioned you're seeing some momentum on the leasing side, and I'm curious, where is that really coming from in terms of size, industry, or, or location? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:21:10So it's a mixture. One market that was quite slow last year was Phoenix. It's a great city, but on the leasing side, it really did slow down, and any discussions we were having in 2023 were really, you know, usually in the small suite size. That's changed in that, as I mentioned, kind of four discussions that we're having right now, above 40,000 ft each. Two of those are in Phoenix. We're in lease negotiations on both, and we're advancing, and so we feel pretty good about that. So it's really diverse, but I'd say your best markets, right, of those four that were in negotiation, two are in Phoenix, one's in Orlando, one's in Raleigh. And so, you know, our top markets continue to perform really well. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:22:01Okay, got it. Thanks for all, all the answers. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:05Our pleasure. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:22:05Yeah. Thanks, Upal. Operator00:22:10Just as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question on today's call, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. Our next question today comes from Barry Oxford from Colliers. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:22:27Great. Thanks, guys. Jamie, on the WeWork space out in Phoenix, does it have to be, you know, another WeWork-like tenant, because of the way the space is built out, but if somebody wanted the space, or would it just cost too much money to rehab it to a normal tenant? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:50So, we've explored both, Barry, and again, we just got the space back a couple weeks ago. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:22:56Right. Right. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:56If you were to- Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:22:56No, no, no, I get it. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:57phenomenally... Yeah, it's phenomenally built out, so there's logic to transitioning that into a coworking operation, because the money's predominantly already been spent. But could you transition to a corporate tenant? Absolutely. We just think the logical thing to do in this particular case is to continue as a coworking. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:23:22Right. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. And then, from a big picture, Jamie, given that you guys are carrying somewhat high debt, does it make sense? Or look, Barry, I can't make the math work selling into this environment to sell some assets and reduce your leverage. But, are you just saying, "Look, I can't get the prices that I need to make that a viable game plan at this particular junction? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:23:52So we've had a lot of success, you know, recycling assets in the past, and I guess what I'd say is there are very few buyers, and one of the toughest parts is it's almost impossible to get new debt financing. So the transactions- Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:24:10Mm-hmm. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:24:10that you are seeing in the market right now are, you know, a percentage of them are lenders who are foreclosing and trying to, you know, get some recovery, and the other is sellers who are able to carry vendor takeback financing at a low rate. And so if one of those two isn't there, there really isn't a lot of buyers. So, it's an option, Barry, and I guess I'd say, you know, in my prepared remarks, I made a comment about, you know, we're trying to explore ways of creating value. We do have a few conversations going on. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:24:43They're very early stage with unique buyers, whether they're strategic buyers, owner users, who are gonna own or occupy or it's early stage, but if we can find something that works for everyone, we're absolutely open to that, but it's got to work for us, too. And so, you know, I think that'll flesh out. We haven't assumed any of those in our guidance this year, but it's not lost on us that that could be a good source of liquidity if values are compelling. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:25:12Right. And, Jamie, I would imagine if somebody's gonna assume the mortgage, there has to be mortgage with term. If you don't have really enough term on it, then, you know, they're gonna recognize pretty quickly, you're transferring your problem to me. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:25:27I think that's fair. Yeah, and in not all cases- Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:25:30Yeah Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:25:30Our mortgage is assumable, so it just becomes very complex, and I think that's why until the debt markets open up a bit more, you're gonna see very muted activity, which means from our standpoint, where do we focus to drive value? We focus on getting leasing done that's gonna drive cash flow, which enhances your ability to borrow against it, and it enhances your ability to drive your cash flow back to the mothership. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:25:56Right. Right, that makes sense. Okay, guys, appreciate the time. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:26:03Thanks, Barry. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:26:05Yep, yep. Operator00:26:09That concludes the Q&A portion of today's call. I'll now hand the call back over to Jamie for, for any final remarks. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:26:18Thanks for joining today. As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any follow-up questions. Goodbye. Operator00:26:26That concludes today's City Office Q4 2023 Earnings Conference Call. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJamie FarrarCEOTony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate SecretaryAnalystsBarry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at ColliersUpal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) City Office REIT Q4 2023 Earnings FAQ Did City Office REIT beat earnings estimates for Q4 2023? City Office REIT (NYSE:CIO) reported earnings of -$0.11 per share for Q4 2023, missing the consensus estimate of $0.31. The report was announced on Thursday, February 22, 2024. What was City Office REIT's revenue for Q4 2023? City Office REIT reported revenue of $44.32 million for Q4 2023, against a consensus estimate of $44.47 million. Where can I read City Office REIT's Q4 2023 earnings call transcript? 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Established in 2017 through a spin-off from Shorenstein Properties, the company targets high-growth secondary markets offering favorable demographic trends, employment growth and constrained new office supply. Its strategy emphasizes well-located assets in metropolitan areas experiencing population inflows and corporate relocations. The trust’s core business activities include property acquisition, leasing, asset management and value-add redevelopment initiatives. Through its externally managed structure, City Office REIT receives advisory and property management services from City Office REIT Advisors LP, a Shorenstein affiliate, leveraging decades of experience in real estate investment, development and portfolio management. This partnership allows City Office REIT to employ a disciplined, research-driven approach to asset selection and operational execution. City Office REIT’s portfolio has historically included Class A office buildings and mixed-use complexes in markets such as Atlanta, Charlotte, Austin, Dallas and Houston. The company maintains a diversified tenant base across multiple industries—ranging from professional services and technology to healthcare—aiming to generate stable rental income and long-term value for shareholders. Management conducts targeted capital improvement projects and strategic repositionings to enhance property quality and tenant experience. Led by President and Chief Executive Officer Oliver Slone, City Office REIT is governed by a board of directors with extensive real estate and financial expertise. The leadership team oversees strategic deployment of capital, portfolio optimization and risk management, positioning the company to navigate market cycles and capitalize on evolving opportunities in the U.S. office sector. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the City Office REIT, Inc Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. If you require operator assistance throughout, please press star, then zero. It is now my pleasure to introduce you to Tony Maretic, the company's Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary. Thank you, Mr. Maretic. You may begin. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:00:44Good morning. Before we begin, I'd like to direct you to our website at cioreit.com, where you can view our fourth quarter earnings press release and supplemental information package. The earnings release and supplemental package both include a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures that will be discussed today to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Certain statements made today that discuss the company's beliefs or expectations, or that are not based on historical fact, may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Although the company believes that these expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, we can give no assurance that these expectations will be achieved. Please see the forward-looking statements disclaimer in our fourth quarter earnings press release and the company's filings with the SEC for factors that could cause material differences between forward-looking statements and actual results. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:01:39The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements that may be made in the course of this call. I'll review our financial results after Jamie Farrar, our Chief Executive Officer, discusses some of the quarter's operational highlights. I'll now turn the call over to Jamie. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:01:55Good morning, and thanks for joining today. On this call, I'd like to touch on several topics. First, a look back at our performance in 2023, then an overview on the state of the office market, and last, updates on our progress and focus areas for 2024. Overall, 2023 was in line with our expectations. Our Core FFO per share ended the year at $1.39, which was within the guidance range we set at the beginning of 2023. Our performance led to dividend coverage for the year with a total AFFO payout ratio of 66%. Operationally, we executed 599,000 sq ft of new and renewal leasing throughout the year. Our pipeline of leasing prospects gained considerable momentum as the year progressed. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:02:51In the fourth quarter, we executed 109,000 sq ft of new leases, which was the highest level of any quarter in 2023. The average term of those leases was a healthy eight years. Our occupancy also ended the year approximately where we expected it to land, and we achieved 3% same-store Cash NOI growth for 2023 as compared to the prior year. Last, during 2023, we renewed two property loans for five years each, which was a success in an otherwise challenging financing market. I'll use this as a transition to provide an update on the state of the office market. There continue to be headwinds in certain areas and promising green shoots in others. On the challenging side, the investment sales market continues to be very slow. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:03:48Across the office market in 2023, sales volumes was down 57% year-over-year. Within the limited transactions that closed, many were aided by seller financing or assumable debt. Debt capital also continues to be effectively frozen for new originations, with lenders seeking to reduce their office sector exposure. We're closely monitoring these trends and remain in active dialogue with our own lending relationships. On the side of positive trends, the corporate pressure on employees to return to the office continues to gather momentum. Major companies, including employers such as Google, Meta, Salesforce, and Amazon, to name a few, have all shifted their policies towards more consistent in-office collaboration. Having employees attending the office a minimum of three days a week, which appears to be a common current policy, should bolster overall space needs and benefit high-quality office assets. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:04:56We believe these trends will further strengthen throughout 2024. Another helpful change is the rapid slowdown in new construction. Q4 2023 had the least amount of ground broken for new office buildings in over 20 years, according to JLL. The projects that are breaking ground are generally build-to-suit or pre-leased, with almost no new spec projects underway. This will help shift the supply-demand balance as obsolete buildings get removed from inventory without being replaced. Subleasing is also moderating, with Q4 starting to indicate an equilibrium or decrease of sublease availability across many office markets. Relating to leasing trends, the flight to quality trend continues, which benefits our portfolio. According to JLL's research, 60% of total vacancy is concentrated in just 10% of buildings. Leasing demand continues to be highest for well-located premier buildings that have amenities and ready-to-lease space.... Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:06:08That leads us to our update on our progress so far in 2024. The leasing momentum that we experienced in the fourth quarter carried over into 2024. Today, we're actively pursuing a leasing pipeline that exceeds 200,000 sq ft. Of note, last year, larger corporate user lease discussions were less frequent, with most of last year's activity in the small to medium-sized suite range. Within our current pipeline, we are in active lease negotiations with four companies that average over 40,000 sq ft per lease. The return of these larger corporate tenants is a positive development, which has the potential to reaccelerate leasing results. Our leasing pipeline is in part driven by our spec suite and renovation programs that we've been focused on for the last two years. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:07:06We currently have 84,000 sq ft of built spec suites in our inventory, with 19,000 sq ft under construction or planned to commence in 2024. Combined with renovations such as our Pima Center property in Phoenix, these investments are allowing us to compete for a larger share of leasing across our markets. As a status update on WeWork, they continue to operate in bankruptcy. As a reminder, at year-end, we had three WeWork leases at our newest and best properties. On our last call, we highlighted that WeWork's Raleigh and Dallas operations in our buildings appear to be performing well from an occupancy standpoint. However, their Phoenix location at Block 23 had lower occupancy as it was still in a lease-up phase, having been opened for just over a year. Block 23 is an incredible, newly constructed building that is one of the top properties in Phoenix. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:08:08We did not come to terms with WeWork on a lease restructuring, and the Block 23 lease was rejected effective February seventh. City Office holds a $1 million letter of credit as additional security for this lease, which is being drawn and applied against our costs and lost income. As discussed on our last call, we've been working with other coworking operators to rebrand this location in the event of a WeWork departure. We continue to keep all of our options open, but are in late stage negotiations with another high-quality coworking operator. We are working to have this location backfilled quickly, and we'll provide further details on our next call. In terms of collection of rent from WeWork, they withheld January and February rent payments at Block 23 and The Terraces as part of their lease negotiation tactics. In response, we immediately initiated litigation. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:09:04Ultimately, WeWork have now agreed to repay these overdue amounts by the end of February in exchange for us dropping our litigation. Bottom line, we remain very confident in our position. Our Block 83, Terraces, and Block 23 properties are three of the most desirable office assets in the entirety of Raleigh, Dallas, and Phoenix. Irrespective of what happens with WeWork, these are incredible new buildings and are exactly what tenants want to lease today. With that, I'll turn to our outlook for the balance of 2024. Tony will provide more detail, but in broad strokes, we have several focus areas. First, we remain focused on executing new leasing and driving occupancy. Related to that, we will further our spec suite and property renovation programs to optimally position our spaces for success. We believe the timing of these enhancements aligns with market demand. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:10:02Second, we continue to prioritize maintaining liquidity, protecting capital, and addressing debt maturities in a prudent manner. And last, our DNA as a company has always been to uncover creative ways to unlock value at our properties, and in 2024, we're looking to advance a few promising projects. While these initiatives remain at an earlier stage, we've been focused on finding ways to advance shareholder value. With that, I'll hand the call over to Tony to discuss our financial results and guidance in more detail. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:10:35Thanks, Jamie. Our Net Operating Income in the fourth quarter was $26.9 million, which is $300,000 higher than the amount we reported in the third quarter. Fourth quarter NOI was impacted by two offsetting accounting transactions. First, we wrote off $1.4 million in straight-line rent receivables and above-market lease amortization related to the WeWork lease at Block 23. Also during the quarter, the company recognized $1.5 million of income due to the reversal of an accrued liability for a tenant improvement reimbursement that was no longer owed as the claim period had expired. The net impact of these two transactions was an increase to NOI of $100,000. We reported core AFFO of $13.5 million, or $0.33 per share for the fourth quarter. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:11:33This was $200,000 lower than in the third quarter, as slightly higher G&A and interest costs offset higher NOI. Our fourth quarter AFFO was $9.3 million, or $0.23 per share, which resulted in a well-covered dividend this quarter. The largest impacts to AFFO were costs related to our ready-to-lease spec suites and vacancy conditioning program, which are key parts of our business plan. The total investment in spec suites and vacancy conditioning in the fourth quarter was $900,000 or $0.02 per share. Moving on to some of our operational metrics. Our fourth quarter same-store cash NOI change was -0.5% or $100,000 lower as compared to the fourth quarter of 2022. Same-store cash NOI grew by 3% for the year ended December 31st, 2023, as compared to the prior year. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:12:34Block 83 in Raleigh and Park Tower in Tampa had the largest year-over-year increases due to slightly higher occupancy and free rent in the prior year comp period as a result of signed leases. Our retention rate in the quarter was 21%, which was significantly impacted by the 70,000 sq ft of lease departures at our Portland properties alone during the quarter. Consistent with JLL's market research that Jamie mentioned, the vacancy we have experienced in our portfolio is concentrated in a smaller subset of our properties. Our portfolio occupancy ended the quarter at 84.5%, including 114,000 sq ft of signed leases that have not yet commenced. Our occupancy was 86.5% as of quarter end. Our total debt as of December 31st was $670 million. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:13:33Our net debt, including restricted cash to EBITDA, was 6.6x. We had over $90 million of undrawn authorized on our credit facility. We also had cash and restricted cash of $43 million as of quarter end. As far as our debt maturities, in 2024, we had four scheduled maturities for a total of $102 million. The first, we have talked about on prior calls. In May, the $21 million non-recourse property loan at our Cascade Station property in Portland will mature. In December 2022, we recorded an impairment in that asset's value that effectively wrote off our equity value. We are in continued discussions with that lender. Portland continues to be a challenging market, and without some form of material loan modifications, it is difficult to justify investing further equity into this asset today. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:14:27At Central Fairwinds, we have a property loan with a $16 million principal balance that matures in June. This is the same lender that we successfully renewed two property loans in mid-2023. At FRP Ingenuity Drive, there is a property loan with a balance of $16 million that matures at the end of the year in December. We are currently working on an early extension there. Last, we have a $50 million corporate term loan with our line of credit banks that matures in September. Similarly, we have initiated discussions and expect to provide an update next quarter. Changing gears to guidance. We have introduced new full year 2024 guidance in our fourth quarter press release. I'll walk through a few of the key points. We have assumed no acquisitions for the year, and we have included $21 million of dispositions. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:15:19This $21 million reflects our Cascade Station property in Portland and our assumption that unless we are able to achieve material loan modifications, that property would likely be a disposition to the lender. Related to our interest rate assumptions for debt that is floating rate, we have assumed flat interest rates and have not baked in any potential reference rate decreases in 2024. Our G&A range is $14.5 million-$15.5 million for 2024. This is the same range we had for the prior year. The result of our assumptions is a core FFO per share range of $1.18-$1.22. Our projected 2024 core FFO is approximately $6 million lower than our 2023 actual core FFO. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:16:10We are expecting interest expense to increase by approximately $3 million year-over-year due to higher rates on property-level debt renewals and a higher average balance on our credit facility. Cascade Station occupancy declines year-over-year and assumed disposition will lower leverage, but also result in a $2 million reduction to Core FFO in 2024 as compared to 2023. Last, approximately $1 million of that reduction relates to the assumption on the former WeWork space at our Block 23 property. We have assumed no income in 2024 with this operation, but forecast to return to a similar monthly revenue stream beginning in 2025 if we complete the pending transaction with a replacement coworking operator. We will revisit these assumptions in the quarters ahead as the results solidify. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:17:02We refer you to the material assumptions and considerations set forth in our earnings release for further details. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we will open up the line for questions. Operator? Operator00:17:16Thank you. We will now start the Q&A portion of today's call. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star, followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. Our first question today comes from Upal Rana from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead with your question. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:17:39Great. Thank you. Good morning out there. Thanks for taking the question. Thanks for all the detail from the debt maturities and the assets that you have provided. You know, I was just curious on Cascade Station, how's the marketability of the asset? You know, any conversation you had with potential buyers, or is it just really likely that you'll probably give the asset back to the lender? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:18:06... Thanks for the question. So we did launch a marketing process kind of mid last year, and Portland has just been probably the most challenging market we have, and one of the tougher in the entire country. So, you know, we did not have any prospects that were, you know, close to where the debt level is, and that hasn't changed. So I think absent any sort of, you know, material concessions from the lender that make it logical for us to put more money in, that'll be one that transitions back to the lender and we cancel the debt. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:18:44Okay, got it. And how is that gonna be impacting your occupancy this year? You need to just give me the trajectory of, you expect occupancy to be somewhat up, by the end of next year, this year. And, I'm assuming that's gonna have some sort of impact in driving a little bit of the occupancy, guidance. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:19:04It's a fairly small impact because the asset is really small. It's 128,000 sq ft, so in our own forecasting, you know, we think it'll exit our results kind of mid this year. So at the end of the year, there would be a slight uptick from that, but that's not the real driver of the improvement. It really is from getting leasing done. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:28Okay, got it. And then from your same-store Cash NOI, you know, you expect it to be flat this year compared to 3% last year. Could you walk us through some of the moving pieces that's impacting the growth? Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:19:43Yeah. So we're showing effectively flat for 2024. And so, you know, the drivers are, you know, it's our same-store number is a cash number, and so we are, you know, Cascade, we talked about. There are some departures there that will impact results in Q1 and Q2 until if we do transfer it to the lender, so that'll have a negative impact on results. And then offsetting that would be the new leasing. We have a 114,000 sq ft leases that haven't taken occupancy. They will take occupancy in 2024. Some of them have free rent periods, so it'll have no impact, but by later parts of the year, it'll start factoring into the numbers to offset the negatives to kind of end the year effectively flat. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:20:30So Upal, it's Jamie again. So the one thing, and I can't stress enough, is the leasing pipeline really has improved. In our own views, when you look at free rent and, you know, build-out periods, there's not gonna be much impact to our cash flow in 2024 from that, but we see that really establishing and pushing 2025 and beyond. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:55Okay, got it. And then just one last one for me is, you mentioned you're seeing some momentum on the leasing side, and I'm curious, where is that really coming from in terms of size, industry, or, or location? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:21:10So it's a mixture. One market that was quite slow last year was Phoenix. It's a great city, but on the leasing side, it really did slow down, and any discussions we were having in 2023 were really, you know, usually in the small suite size. That's changed in that, as I mentioned, kind of four discussions that we're having right now, above 40,000 ft each. Two of those are in Phoenix. We're in lease negotiations on both, and we're advancing, and so we feel pretty good about that. So it's really diverse, but I'd say your best markets, right, of those four that were in negotiation, two are in Phoenix, one's in Orlando, one's in Raleigh. And so, you know, our top markets continue to perform really well. Upal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:22:01Okay, got it. Thanks for all, all the answers. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:05Our pleasure. Tony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate Secretary at City Office REIT Inc00:22:05Yeah. Thanks, Upal. Operator00:22:10Just as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question on today's call, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. Our next question today comes from Barry Oxford from Colliers. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:22:27Great. Thanks, guys. Jamie, on the WeWork space out in Phoenix, does it have to be, you know, another WeWork-like tenant, because of the way the space is built out, but if somebody wanted the space, or would it just cost too much money to rehab it to a normal tenant? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:50So, we've explored both, Barry, and again, we just got the space back a couple weeks ago. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:22:56Right. Right. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:56If you were to- Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:22:56No, no, no, I get it. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:22:57phenomenally... Yeah, it's phenomenally built out, so there's logic to transitioning that into a coworking operation, because the money's predominantly already been spent. But could you transition to a corporate tenant? Absolutely. We just think the logical thing to do in this particular case is to continue as a coworking. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:23:22Right. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. And then, from a big picture, Jamie, given that you guys are carrying somewhat high debt, does it make sense? Or look, Barry, I can't make the math work selling into this environment to sell some assets and reduce your leverage. But, are you just saying, "Look, I can't get the prices that I need to make that a viable game plan at this particular junction? Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:23:52So we've had a lot of success, you know, recycling assets in the past, and I guess what I'd say is there are very few buyers, and one of the toughest parts is it's almost impossible to get new debt financing. So the transactions- Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:24:10Mm-hmm. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:24:10that you are seeing in the market right now are, you know, a percentage of them are lenders who are foreclosing and trying to, you know, get some recovery, and the other is sellers who are able to carry vendor takeback financing at a low rate. And so if one of those two isn't there, there really isn't a lot of buyers. So, it's an option, Barry, and I guess I'd say, you know, in my prepared remarks, I made a comment about, you know, we're trying to explore ways of creating value. We do have a few conversations going on. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:24:43They're very early stage with unique buyers, whether they're strategic buyers, owner users, who are gonna own or occupy or it's early stage, but if we can find something that works for everyone, we're absolutely open to that, but it's got to work for us, too. And so, you know, I think that'll flesh out. We haven't assumed any of those in our guidance this year, but it's not lost on us that that could be a good source of liquidity if values are compelling. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:25:12Right. And, Jamie, I would imagine if somebody's gonna assume the mortgage, there has to be mortgage with term. If you don't have really enough term on it, then, you know, they're gonna recognize pretty quickly, you're transferring your problem to me. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:25:27I think that's fair. Yeah, and in not all cases- Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:25:30Yeah Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:25:30Our mortgage is assumable, so it just becomes very complex, and I think that's why until the debt markets open up a bit more, you're gonna see very muted activity, which means from our standpoint, where do we focus to drive value? We focus on getting leasing done that's gonna drive cash flow, which enhances your ability to borrow against it, and it enhances your ability to drive your cash flow back to the mothership. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:25:56Right. Right, that makes sense. Okay, guys, appreciate the time. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:26:03Thanks, Barry. Barry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at Colliers00:26:05Yep, yep. Operator00:26:09That concludes the Q&A portion of today's call. I'll now hand the call back over to Jamie for, for any final remarks. Jamie FarrarCEO at City Office REIT Inc00:26:18Thanks for joining today. As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any follow-up questions. Goodbye. Operator00:26:26That concludes today's City Office Q4 2023 Earnings Conference Call. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJamie FarrarCEOTony MareticCFO, Treasurer, and Corporate SecretaryAnalystsBarry OxfordSenior Research Analyst at ColliersUpal RanaDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsPowered by