OTCMKTS:MOND Mondee Q4 2023 Earnings Results & Report $0.0001 0.00 (0.00%) As of 09:30 AM Eastern Mondee missed analyst earnings expectations but beat on revenue in its Q4 2023 results, released March 14, 2024. The company reported EPS of -$0.21 versus the -$0.13 consensus estimate, while revenue of $61.05 million topped the $55.53 million estimate by $5.52 million. Research:Profile Earnings Announcement Details QuarterQ4 2023Report DateMarch 14, 2024Conference Call8:30 AM ET Mondee EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.21Consensus EPS -$0.13Beat/MissMissed by -$0.08One Year Ago EPSN/AEPS Beat Rate2 of last 8 quartersMondee Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$61.05 millionExpected Revenue$55.53 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.52 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AUpcoming EarningsMondee's next earnings date is estimated for Monday, November 16, 2026, based on past reporting schedules. Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Company ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Mondee Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 14, 2024ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways In FY2023, Mondi delivered record net revenues of $222.3 million (up 39%) and adjusted EBITDA of $21 million (up 77%), with Q4 take rate rising to nearly 10%. Revenue mix diversified as air-only offerings declined to 57% of net revenues in 2023, while hotels, packages, fintech and ancillaries grew to 43%, boosting overall take rates. Mondi expanded geographically within North America and into South America and grew its marketplace to 65,000 travel experts plus new B2B and influencer distribution partners. The mid-2023 launch of Abi, the first fully integrated AI travel assistant, advanced Mondi’s technological leadership and enabled more efficient, targeted marketing. For 2024, Mondi forecasts net revenues of $250–255 million (+14%) and adjusted EBITDA of $30–35 million (+24%), underpinned by transaction growth, higher take rates, cost controls and refinancing efforts. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallMondee Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day and welcome to the Mondee Fourth Quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Please note this event is being recorded. I'd like to turn the conference call over to Jeff Houston, Senior Vice President. Jeff, please go ahead. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:00:14Thank you, Elliot, and good morning to everyone. Welcome to Mondee's fourth quarter and full year 2023 conference call. With me today is Founder Chairman and CEO Prasad Gundumogula; and Chief Financial Officer Jesus Portillo; Executive Vice Chairman Orestes Fintiklis; and Chief Operating Officer Jim Dullum. We'll present our preliminary unaudited results and be available for questions and answers. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward-looking statements, including statements about revenue growth of our business, our management and governance plans, and other non-historical statements as further described in our press release. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, including those related to Mondee's growth, the evolution of our industry, our product development and success, our management performance, and general economic and business conditions. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:01:12I would also like to point out that the fourth quarter and full year 2023 results are preliminary and subject to final audit. We undertake no obligation to revise any statements to reflect changes that occur after this call. Descriptions of these and other risks that could cause actual results to have a material difference from these forward-looking statements are discussed in our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in our earnings press release that was issued this morning. Forward-looking statements are based on expectations that involve risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. During the call, we also refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of the most comparable GAAP measures are also available in the press release, which is available at investors.mondee.com. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:02:02With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Prasad. Prasad GundumogulaCEO at Mondee00:02:06Thank you, Jeff. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, everyone, and welcome to Mondee's fourth quarter and full year 2023 earnings call to discuss our results and significant developments. We are pleased to report that net revenues and Adjusted EBITDA for 2023 surpassed full year guidance with Q4 and full year 2023, the highest on record in the 13-year history of Mondee for both metrics. 2023 gross bookings of $2.6 billion grew 19%. Net revenues of $222.3 million grew 39%. 2023 Adjusted EBITDA was $21 million, another record and almost double 2022's level. This strong year-over-year growth was fueled by product and geographic expansion of our marketplace, industry-leading technology advancements, and sustained leisure travel demand. This translated into gross bookings growth and take rate expansion, which has doubled since pre-pandemic levels to 8.7% in 2023, up from 7.4% in 2022. In the fourth quarter, take rate was nearly 10%. Prasad GundumogulaCEO at Mondee00:03:30Looking into the future, we are focused on achieving the following near and long-term goals: enhanced profitability and free cash flow. We will achieve this through sustained transaction volume growth, take rate improvements, and implementing cost-control measures. Expand travel marketplace. Our marketplace is growing in terms of geography, products such as packages, hotels, events, and activities, as well as New Era distribution partners. Indicatively, Mondee's entire business pre-pandemic was air-only, whereas for 2023, air-only represented only 57%, while hotel, packages, fintech, and other represented 43%. In terms of origination geography during 2023, Mondee expanded within North America and into South America. Maintain technological leadership in AI. Mondee remains committed to being a leader in travel industry AI. Our significant investments in Abhi, the first AI-powered travel platform launched in mid-2023, have established a strong foundation. We are continuing to innovate and push the boundaries of AI in travel. Prasad GundumogulaCEO at Mondee00:04:49Moreover, as Jesus will detail later, the company is focusing on optimizing its capital structure in the coming months with a new long-term loan facility. As an initial step, we have extended the maturity of our current term loan to March 31st, 2025. I now turn the floor over to Jim Dullum, Mondee's Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss market trends and Mondee's marketplace expansion. Jim, over to you. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:05:20Thanks, Prasad. Good day, everyone. Turning to our market outlook and external drivers to our gross bookings growth. For the industry overall, 2023 was a very mixed bag of robust post-pandemic recovery, but also headwinds from regional armed conflicts and a great deal of economic uncertainty. It is worth emphasizing that Mondee's business model flourishes in such conditions of volatility. On the demand side, travelers seeking cost-effective options align nicely with Mondee's offerings. On the supply side, uncertain economic conditions lead to more potential excess capacity, motivating suppliers to offer better deals through opaque channels like Mondee. This enables us to target our marketing to specific consumer groups while providing travelers with enhanced, customized itineraries, trends that are perfectly suited to Mondee's AI capabilities and leadership. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:06:30Furthermore, the substantial majority of our business caters to international leisure travel, which continues to benefit from recovery and growth in certain markets like Latin America, China, and the Middle East. Looking more to our own business, we continue enhancing our marketplace, where Mondee is steadily increasing its market share within the $1.1 trillion assisted affiliated travel market through focus on adding content and distribution expansion. In terms of content diversification, you may recall pre-pandemic, as Prasad mentioned, Mondee was almost exclusively offering discounted airfares. In 2023, air-only net revenues accounted for 57%, while packages were now up to 21%, hotel-only at 11%, Fintech at 6%, and the other category, including SaaS, insurance, ground transportation, and other ancillaries, was at 5%. These adjacent products and markets not only significantly expand Mondee's total addressable market, or TAM, but also contribute to the impressive rise in our take rate. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:07:58Moving on to distribution expansion, we leveraged our AI technology platform to continue growing our robust marketplace of 65,000 travel experts and New Era distribution partners, such as local community and social media influencers, and to provide their travelers with access to personalized content and localized experiences. As we interact with these cohorts, we continuously gain valuable feedback, allowing us to refine our platform, our monetization, and our content localization strategies. In the area of B2B partnerships, beyond our expert-led distribution, our B2E, or business-to-enterprise, partnerships have witnessed a net revenue surge year-over-year. As a reminder, Mondee targets enterprises and membership organizations by providing its unique technology platform and inventory access to these closed user groups. I now turn it over to Orestes Fintiklis, Mondee's Executive Vice Chairman, to discuss our widening technological leadership and focus on increased profitability and cash flows. Orestes? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:09:20Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. As Jim mentioned, we have been widening our technological product lead and further AI integration. Mondee remains a leader in travel innovation through pioneering AI solutions like Abhi, our unique platform that combines expert-trained generative AI with conversational interfaces and comprehensive booking and itinerary management. Upon its launch in the summer of 2023, Abhi established itself as the first fully integrated AI travel assistant. This groundbreaking technology can explore trip ideas, take real-time traveler input, create itineraries, book travel, manage itinerary changes, and even generate customized travel guides for both travel experts and their clients. By introducing Abhi, Mondee created a new category. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:10:17Going forward, we remain committed to not only enhancing the capabilities of our proprietary large language model, LLM, which continuously learns from our unique travel expert data and millions of daily searches, but also to pushing the boundaries of the entire field. We will unveil more details about these advancements in the coming quarters. Turning to our heightened focus on profitability and cash flow generation, Mondee is not merely disrupting the travel market. It is achieving this while maintaining and enhancing strong profitability. Committed to long-term shareholder value, we are redoubling our efforts to boost Adjusted EBITDA and Free Cash Flow in 2024. Year-over-year, the company has nearly doubled its reported EBITDA from $12 million in 2022 to $21 million in 2023. During the past year, we also completed five acquisitions. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:11:13Going forward, we are focusing on realizing further organic growth and synergies through seamless integration and lucrative cross-selling opportunities. I now yield the floor to Jesus, our CFO, on this day of his birthday for a review of Mondee's financial performance and outlook. Jesus? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:11:32Thank you, Orestes. And hello, everyone. As I go over our Q4 and 2023 results, I would like to point out that all growth rates for 2023 are on a year-over-year basis, unless otherwise indicated, and the results are subject to final review by our auditors. Let me please start with our financial highlights. We continue to generate strong performance throughout this fourth quarter, producing record quarterly and annual net revenue and Adjusted EBITDA, evidence that our efforts for sustained growth and improved profitability are producing results. Our gross bookings were $619 million in this quarter, up 24%. This growth was driven by a 56% increase in the number of transactions. For the full year 2023, gross bookings of $2.6 billion grew 19%. Our net revenue increased 78% to reach $61 million. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:12:30This growth in net revenue is the result of higher gross bookings combined with our continued improvement in take rate. Our take rate of 9.9% was ahead of our expectations and up 44%. As with prior quarters, this improvement in take rate was driven mostly by the growth of higher margin products and the diversification of revenue streams, including Fintech and ancillary services. Full year 2023 net revenues of $222 million grew 39%, while take rate of 8.7% grew 17%. Turning now to expenses, our operating expenses increased 49% compared to our net revenue growth of 78%. Sales and marketing, as a percentage of net revenue, decreased from 75%-62%. The main reasons for this improvement are the AI-driven optimization of marketing credits to our B2B distribution network, as well as reductions in performance marketing spend in our B2C business. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:13:35As a result of our strong net revenue growth and our efficiencies in sales and marketing, Adjusted EBITDA grew 338% from $2 million-$7 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was also up 146% and reached 11.4% in this quarter, as we continue to put more emphasis on operating efficiencies and profitability. For the full year, Adjusted EBITDA was $21 million, up 77%, with an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.5%. On a GAAP basis, our net loss was $13 million, which included $11 million of non-cash and/or non-recurring items, including $3 million of stock-based compensation, $3 million of intangible assets amortization, and $3 million of change in fair value of acquisition earnouts, among others. For the full year, GAAP net loss was $60 million, a year-over-year improvement of $30 million. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:14:34Looking now at our balance sheet, at the end of this quarter, we had $34 million in cash and cash equivalents and $162 million of total debt, compared to $48 million and $155 million, respectively, at the end of September 2023. The reduction in cash reserves was primarily due to debt service and changes in working capital in line with revenue growth. We are advancing on the refinance of our term loan to increase duration and improve terms. We expect these to optimize our capital structure, adding value to our shareholders. In the meantime, we have executed an amendment with our current lenders, extending the existing loan's maturity to March 31st, 2025. During the quarter, the company raised $11.3 million in preferred stock, $10 million of which was used to repurchase Mondee common shares as part of our inaugural share buyback program. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:15:31In terms of cash flow, operating cash flow was negative $10.6 million, compared to a negative $9.9 million in Q4 of 2022. For the full year, operating cash flow was negative $24 million, compared to negative $10.6 million in 2022. This lower cash flow was primarily driven by a higher interest payment of $5.7 million, mainly due to conversion from PIK to cash interest, a change in working capital of $6.3 million, and payments related to the LBF divestiture of $7.7 million. Adjusting for these, operating cash flow would have improved by $6.3 million year-over-year. Turning now to our 2024 guidance, we are forecasting net revenues of $250 million-$255 million, representing growth of 14% versus 2023 expected net revenues, measured at the midpoint, and Adjusted EBITDA of $30 million-$35 million, representing growth of 24% versus 2023 expected Adjusted EBITDA, measured at the midpoint. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:16:38In closing, we're excited about our year-end results and the momentum in the business. Let me now turn it back to Jeff for Q&A. Jeff? Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:16:47Hey. Thanks, Jesus. Elliot, we are ready for questions now. Operator00:16:52Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press "star" followed by "one" on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press "star" followed by "two". When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. First question comes from Darren Aftahi with Roth. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:17:14Hi. This is Dillon on for Darren. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to sort of start with the increase in take rate. It's gone up quite steadily, and it seems like it's going to keep going that way. Could you sort of talk about what percentage of transactions, whether you define that as a transaction or a user, are actually taking advantage of sort of multiple products, whether that be air or hotel with other sort of fintech or ancillary services? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:17:48Yeah. I mean, maybe looking at the percentages that Jim mentioned before in terms of our revenue streams, right, you saw that right now, 20% of those revenues come from packages. Those, obviously, come with a higher take rate. And that might give you maybe an idea of I don't know if that addresses your answer, but usually, those will come with a higher percentage, and that represents around 20% of our revenues. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:18:18Got it. So do you sort of expect the trendline in gross revenue per transaction to continue down, but that's offset by more transactions and a higher take rate? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:18:29Yeah. I mean, in this case, transactions grow faster than gross booking because we saw an increase in short-haul flights. We don't see that materially increasing in 2024. So I think that any improvements in take rate will definitely come from the continued diversification of our revenue stream, but not necessarily seeing a change in terms of growth between transaction and gross bookings. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:19:02Got it. Appreciate it. If I could ask one more, on the social/AI influencer side, is there anything you can quantify on how big of a driver that's been towards the increase in transactions or just maybe even just initial visitors to some of your sites? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:19:22Yes. I mean, we mentioned before that we have added a few thousand of this New Era Distribution, which includes not only social media but also localized influencers of communities, right? We also mentioned that we are in the process of launching and developing a more exciting AI-powered platform. In the meantime, what we're doing, we are taking the feedback of these new cohorts in not only optimizing and refining the monetization model but also incorporating their needs and feedback into the enhanced version of the platform that we're working on. That's an exciting development. We'll be providing more details in the next few quarters. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:20:16Great. Appreciate it. I'll pass it on. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:20:19Thank you. Operator00:20:21We now turn to Nick Jones with JMP Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:20:28Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess as we think about 2024 guidance, at kind of the midpoint of net revenue, if we assume kind of flat take rate, I guess that kind of suggests no growth in gross revenue for 2024. I think there's some expectations that take rate will expand due to mix. Orestes, as you pointed out, does that maybe suggest that gross revenue might actually be down year-over-year in 2024? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:20:58No. I mean, I think to your question in terms of Take Rate, long term, we continue to see evolution of this. As we always mentioned, we expect that to be mid-teens. In the short term, we might see maybe some fluctuations. Some of these, as I said before, there is an increase in short-haul flights. Take Rate on those usually are a little bit smaller. So that's probably why, in terms of the 2024 model, you might be having that question. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:21:31So the short answer is that we're not necessarily seeing or projecting a reduction in the gross, right? I mean, we're being conservative because that's driven not only by our own growth but also by the market. And as you know, there is, in the market, a general expectation of some softening. But to Jesus's point, the take rate in the medium term is very likely to continue growing. But in the very short term, you may see some fluctuations from this dynamic that Jesus mentioned. We have our technology, for example, being used now widely within short-haul flights in Asia, right? So if you have a big growth within those components of our mix, then it doesn't necessarily mean that the take rate will follow a linear growth quarter-over-quarter. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:22:21Something else maybe I need to add to that. Also, when you compare to 2023, remember that we still had six months of our LBF business, B2C, right? Maybe on a year-over-year basis, it would be also relevant to discount that when you think about the growth of the gross bookings in 2024. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:22:41Okay. So I guess just to be clear, I guess for 2024, it sounds like the expectation is gross revenue will grow, which suggests take rate compression next year versus this year. And this is driven by flights? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:22:56Yes. I mean, we see definitely our Q4 take rate, as you saw, was even higher than we anticipated, a 9.9%. On a yearly basis of 8.7%, that's what we see, our take rate going into 2024. As I said before, the guidance that we provide in terms of revenues, when you apply that, still shows a growth on gross booking. But you also need to discount the gross bookings in 2023 coming out of our LBF business. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:23:28Yeah. I would add that compression is kind of a strong word here, right? So what I'm saying is that it will continue to grow in the medium term, but you may have a few quarters that is not 9.9%, right? So as simple as that. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:23:48Got it. Got it. And then I guess just to follow up on gross revenue per transaction, where should we expect that to kind of trough or balance out? Could there still be downward pressure through 2024 and kind of higher I guess, how do we think about the mix of transaction growth versus gross revenue per transaction as kind of the key inputs to gross revenue for 2024? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:24:18Yeah. There are two components to it, right? The first one is the reduction in the airfares in general, right, which is beyond our control. In 2023, even though the market was expecting a reduction in the airfare, for most of the year, you didn't see that dynamic, right? So depending on how the airlines supply and the demand shape, you may see a reduction in the airfares, which, like Jim explained, that would may translate into less gross volume. But from Mondee's perspective, a softened market means enhanced economics, right? So that's the first element of the equation, which is beyond our control and is more of a prediction about future supply and demand in the air industry. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:25:00The second element, which is the one that we have mentioned, is that we are seeing growth of the use of our technology in certain parts of the world, which are more short-haul flights, right? That one is a dynamic that we have identified, and it's the one for which we can give an estimate. And given the strong growth of that business, that is maybe what affects in the next few quarters to show on a per-booking basis, lower dollar amounts, right? It's not that we're making less profit. It's not that the business is fundamentally changing. It's that we have this very strong growth from short-haul flights in geographies like Asia, for example. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:25:45Got it. Thanks, guys. Operator00:25:49We now turn to Brett Knoblauch with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Brett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:25:56Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess maybe could you help break out for 2024 growth from inorganic means from the, I think, 5 acquisitions you did in 2023 and how much that's going to be contributing to your 2024 growth guidance? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:26:16Yeah. I mean, as we've mentioned in prior calls, usually, it's hard for us to look at that on a separate basis because we integrate platforms and bookings and alike. You're going to see, again, on our 10-K, a table that's going to provide you with a pro forma growth of our companies as if we had made the acquisitions as of January 2022. In that case, you're going to see that the growth is consistent. What you could call maybe organic growth is consistent with the prior quarter, so close to 20%. And right now, the way we think about our growth in 2024 is 100% organic. At this point, I think that thinking of growth of companies acquired some of the largest one at the beginning of 2023 does not make a lot of sense. Brett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:27:06Got it. And then on, I guess, just profitability and looking at you guys' cash position, I guess, what should we be expecting from maybe operating cash flow for this year? I know you guys don't guide to it, but that, I guess, cash balance continues to dwindle down. And what are you guys thinking there in terms of maybe reducing the interest burden? I know you guys are talking about refinancing your term loan debt and extend maturities out. But how should we be expecting maybe just the cash position of the company to perform this year? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:27:40Yeah. I think that, first of all, you need to consider in 2023, we had the divestiture of LBF, which incurred close to $8 million of extraordinary cash payments that will not be anymore. We had an increase or change in working capital of more than $6 million. When you look at our growth of close to 40%, right now, the growth is still strong but not to that level. So we don't think we'll need so much cash to support our working capital. And last but not least, you mentioned it before, right? We're working on this refinancing, and we're aiming to actually obtain better terms and better economics that will allow us to have to reduce the payment of our interest. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:28:27Yeah. And to add to that, I mean, if you are going to adjust for the interest debt service, that outcome would have been a positive number, right? And there are two ways to reduce that burden. The first one is to reduce the actual interest rate, right? And then the second one is to convert a portion of the service to PIK, which now almost the entire term loan debt service is in cash, right? So there are two levers in that regard. And then, of course, the second element of the equation is the operating cash flow increase before debt service, which if you take the $21 million EBITDA for 2023 and you project the guidance for 2024, it changes fundamentally the net effect on the positive cash flows. Brett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:29:23Perfect. Thank you. Operator00:29:26You're welcome. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad now. We now turn to Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:29:40Hey. Thanks. Guys, how would you handicap the launch of Abhi? And kind of what was the rough marketing spend on kind of promoting that during the year? And what do you think it'll be in 2024? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:29:58Yes. So we mentioned before in Q3 that when we launched, we launched the Abhi that we earmarked a fairly large amount, that we have spent the bulk of that for 2023. And we also mentioned that we move forward a figure of $4 million-$5 million into the next year, right? So that's how I would quantify it. Also bear in mind what I said before in the first question, that we are working on a new version of the AI, right? So we will be cautious because we believe that is going to be much more suitable and addressing the specific needs and feedback that we got from this New Era distribution. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:30:48So in the first few quarters, we're going to be a bit more cautious on the marketing spend there as it's much more efficient to launch than to incur enhanced marketing expenses when you have a newer and more efficient and more suitable technology launched, right? Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:31:08Got it. So Orestes, I sort of heard $4 million-$5 million probably later in 2024. Did you give a number for 2023? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:31:182023, Mike, spend was around $3 million-$4 million that was spent on the launch. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:31:27Got it. And what would you guys describe as sort of how you're incenting the travel agents today? I know in quarters past and years past, there's been some discounting and I'll call it couponing. What is sort of the strategy to push and motivate agents in 2024? Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:31:56Hey, Mike. It's Jim. I think one of the things that we're benefiting from going into 2024 is with the deployment of our AI and all of the data analytics that come off of that, we've been able to a lot more efficiently target the different segments of our distribution and target them with programs where we can better manage the, if you'll call it discounting, the incentives that are deployed. And we're getting much better results from that. So I think as we go through 2024, what you will see is a continued increase in efficiency in that marketing spend. And it's going to be almost segment by segment. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:32:44So rather than a broader just putting out one big program with a set of incentives or discounts against the market generally or even a particular O&D mix, you'll see us be a lot more clinical or surgical in how that's done. And the nature of the programs that we'll launch, that's not something that we necessarily disclose because clearly, that's part of competitive advantage, right, is how we work with our distribution network and how we make our most effective. But just presume that it will continue to get more efficient. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:33:29Yeah. And just to add to that, I mean, we mentioned—sorry to interrupt you, Mike. We mentioned a few quarters ago that we're working on implementing AI not just only on the front end but on many other aspects of our business, right? This is a perfect example on how AI can improve the marketing spend. And we've seen that already in that for the last quarter, it dropped from 75%-62% of the net revenue. But how with less spend, you can have a more positive outcome. And this is precisely because of customization, right? So in the absence of technology, you give the same incentives to everybody while certain user cohorts may value a different type of incentive or may produce the business without getting the incentive, right? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:34:17So this is a big part of how AI can influence also the elements of the business like marketing. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:34:27Got it. Hey, lastly, do you have a rough date on when you're going to file the 10-K? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:34:34Yeah. Right now, I mean, we're closing the audit as we speak. Deadline for us is tomorrow. We're working towards that day. So far, that's our objective. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:34:47Got it. Okay. Thank you. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:34:51You're welcome. Operator00:34:53This concludes our Q&A. I'll now hand back to Jeff Houston for final remarks. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:34:58Hey. Thanks, Elliot. Thank you to everyone who tuned in for a fourth quarter 2023 earnings call, whether it was live on the call, the replay, or the transcript. If you do have any questions or would like to learn more about Mondee, don't hesitate to schedule a call with us. You can get more information on our IR site, which is investors.mondee.com, or send an email to us at ir@mondee.com. Thank you. Operator00:35:24Ladies and gentlemen, today's call is now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJeff HoustonHead of Investor RelationsJesus PortilloCFOJim DullumCOOOrestes FintiklisExecutive Vice ChairmanPrasad GundumogulaCEOAnalystsBrett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor FitzgeraldDillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTHMike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland SecuritiesNick JonesManaging Director at JMP SecuritiesPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Mondee Q4 2023 Earnings FAQ Did Mondee beat earnings estimates for Q4 2023? Mondee (OTCMKTS:MOND) reported earnings of -$0.21 per share for Q4 2023, missing the consensus estimate of -$0.13. The report was announced on Thursday, March 14, 2024. What was Mondee's revenue for Q4 2023? Mondee reported revenue of $61.05 million for Q4 2023, against a consensus estimate of $55.53 million. Where can I read Mondee's Q4 2023 earnings call transcript? 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day and welcome to the Mondee Fourth Quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Please note this event is being recorded. I'd like to turn the conference call over to Jeff Houston, Senior Vice President. Jeff, please go ahead. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:00:14Thank you, Elliot, and good morning to everyone. Welcome to Mondee's fourth quarter and full year 2023 conference call. With me today is Founder Chairman and CEO Prasad Gundumogula; and Chief Financial Officer Jesus Portillo; Executive Vice Chairman Orestes Fintiklis; and Chief Operating Officer Jim Dullum. We'll present our preliminary unaudited results and be available for questions and answers. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward-looking statements, including statements about revenue growth of our business, our management and governance plans, and other non-historical statements as further described in our press release. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, including those related to Mondee's growth, the evolution of our industry, our product development and success, our management performance, and general economic and business conditions. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:01:12I would also like to point out that the fourth quarter and full year 2023 results are preliminary and subject to final audit. We undertake no obligation to revise any statements to reflect changes that occur after this call. Descriptions of these and other risks that could cause actual results to have a material difference from these forward-looking statements are discussed in our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in our earnings press release that was issued this morning. Forward-looking statements are based on expectations that involve risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. During the call, we also refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of the most comparable GAAP measures are also available in the press release, which is available at investors.mondee.com. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:02:02With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Prasad. Prasad GundumogulaCEO at Mondee00:02:06Thank you, Jeff. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, everyone, and welcome to Mondee's fourth quarter and full year 2023 earnings call to discuss our results and significant developments. We are pleased to report that net revenues and Adjusted EBITDA for 2023 surpassed full year guidance with Q4 and full year 2023, the highest on record in the 13-year history of Mondee for both metrics. 2023 gross bookings of $2.6 billion grew 19%. Net revenues of $222.3 million grew 39%. 2023 Adjusted EBITDA was $21 million, another record and almost double 2022's level. This strong year-over-year growth was fueled by product and geographic expansion of our marketplace, industry-leading technology advancements, and sustained leisure travel demand. This translated into gross bookings growth and take rate expansion, which has doubled since pre-pandemic levels to 8.7% in 2023, up from 7.4% in 2022. In the fourth quarter, take rate was nearly 10%. Prasad GundumogulaCEO at Mondee00:03:30Looking into the future, we are focused on achieving the following near and long-term goals: enhanced profitability and free cash flow. We will achieve this through sustained transaction volume growth, take rate improvements, and implementing cost-control measures. Expand travel marketplace. Our marketplace is growing in terms of geography, products such as packages, hotels, events, and activities, as well as New Era distribution partners. Indicatively, Mondee's entire business pre-pandemic was air-only, whereas for 2023, air-only represented only 57%, while hotel, packages, fintech, and other represented 43%. In terms of origination geography during 2023, Mondee expanded within North America and into South America. Maintain technological leadership in AI. Mondee remains committed to being a leader in travel industry AI. Our significant investments in Abhi, the first AI-powered travel platform launched in mid-2023, have established a strong foundation. We are continuing to innovate and push the boundaries of AI in travel. Prasad GundumogulaCEO at Mondee00:04:49Moreover, as Jesus will detail later, the company is focusing on optimizing its capital structure in the coming months with a new long-term loan facility. As an initial step, we have extended the maturity of our current term loan to March 31st, 2025. I now turn the floor over to Jim Dullum, Mondee's Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss market trends and Mondee's marketplace expansion. Jim, over to you. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:05:20Thanks, Prasad. Good day, everyone. Turning to our market outlook and external drivers to our gross bookings growth. For the industry overall, 2023 was a very mixed bag of robust post-pandemic recovery, but also headwinds from regional armed conflicts and a great deal of economic uncertainty. It is worth emphasizing that Mondee's business model flourishes in such conditions of volatility. On the demand side, travelers seeking cost-effective options align nicely with Mondee's offerings. On the supply side, uncertain economic conditions lead to more potential excess capacity, motivating suppliers to offer better deals through opaque channels like Mondee. This enables us to target our marketing to specific consumer groups while providing travelers with enhanced, customized itineraries, trends that are perfectly suited to Mondee's AI capabilities and leadership. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:06:30Furthermore, the substantial majority of our business caters to international leisure travel, which continues to benefit from recovery and growth in certain markets like Latin America, China, and the Middle East. Looking more to our own business, we continue enhancing our marketplace, where Mondee is steadily increasing its market share within the $1.1 trillion assisted affiliated travel market through focus on adding content and distribution expansion. In terms of content diversification, you may recall pre-pandemic, as Prasad mentioned, Mondee was almost exclusively offering discounted airfares. In 2023, air-only net revenues accounted for 57%, while packages were now up to 21%, hotel-only at 11%, Fintech at 6%, and the other category, including SaaS, insurance, ground transportation, and other ancillaries, was at 5%. These adjacent products and markets not only significantly expand Mondee's total addressable market, or TAM, but also contribute to the impressive rise in our take rate. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:07:58Moving on to distribution expansion, we leveraged our AI technology platform to continue growing our robust marketplace of 65,000 travel experts and New Era distribution partners, such as local community and social media influencers, and to provide their travelers with access to personalized content and localized experiences. As we interact with these cohorts, we continuously gain valuable feedback, allowing us to refine our platform, our monetization, and our content localization strategies. In the area of B2B partnerships, beyond our expert-led distribution, our B2E, or business-to-enterprise, partnerships have witnessed a net revenue surge year-over-year. As a reminder, Mondee targets enterprises and membership organizations by providing its unique technology platform and inventory access to these closed user groups. I now turn it over to Orestes Fintiklis, Mondee's Executive Vice Chairman, to discuss our widening technological leadership and focus on increased profitability and cash flows. Orestes? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:09:20Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. As Jim mentioned, we have been widening our technological product lead and further AI integration. Mondee remains a leader in travel innovation through pioneering AI solutions like Abhi, our unique platform that combines expert-trained generative AI with conversational interfaces and comprehensive booking and itinerary management. Upon its launch in the summer of 2023, Abhi established itself as the first fully integrated AI travel assistant. This groundbreaking technology can explore trip ideas, take real-time traveler input, create itineraries, book travel, manage itinerary changes, and even generate customized travel guides for both travel experts and their clients. By introducing Abhi, Mondee created a new category. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:10:17Going forward, we remain committed to not only enhancing the capabilities of our proprietary large language model, LLM, which continuously learns from our unique travel expert data and millions of daily searches, but also to pushing the boundaries of the entire field. We will unveil more details about these advancements in the coming quarters. Turning to our heightened focus on profitability and cash flow generation, Mondee is not merely disrupting the travel market. It is achieving this while maintaining and enhancing strong profitability. Committed to long-term shareholder value, we are redoubling our efforts to boost Adjusted EBITDA and Free Cash Flow in 2024. Year-over-year, the company has nearly doubled its reported EBITDA from $12 million in 2022 to $21 million in 2023. During the past year, we also completed five acquisitions. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:11:13Going forward, we are focusing on realizing further organic growth and synergies through seamless integration and lucrative cross-selling opportunities. I now yield the floor to Jesus, our CFO, on this day of his birthday for a review of Mondee's financial performance and outlook. Jesus? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:11:32Thank you, Orestes. And hello, everyone. As I go over our Q4 and 2023 results, I would like to point out that all growth rates for 2023 are on a year-over-year basis, unless otherwise indicated, and the results are subject to final review by our auditors. Let me please start with our financial highlights. We continue to generate strong performance throughout this fourth quarter, producing record quarterly and annual net revenue and Adjusted EBITDA, evidence that our efforts for sustained growth and improved profitability are producing results. Our gross bookings were $619 million in this quarter, up 24%. This growth was driven by a 56% increase in the number of transactions. For the full year 2023, gross bookings of $2.6 billion grew 19%. Our net revenue increased 78% to reach $61 million. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:12:30This growth in net revenue is the result of higher gross bookings combined with our continued improvement in take rate. Our take rate of 9.9% was ahead of our expectations and up 44%. As with prior quarters, this improvement in take rate was driven mostly by the growth of higher margin products and the diversification of revenue streams, including Fintech and ancillary services. Full year 2023 net revenues of $222 million grew 39%, while take rate of 8.7% grew 17%. Turning now to expenses, our operating expenses increased 49% compared to our net revenue growth of 78%. Sales and marketing, as a percentage of net revenue, decreased from 75%-62%. The main reasons for this improvement are the AI-driven optimization of marketing credits to our B2B distribution network, as well as reductions in performance marketing spend in our B2C business. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:13:35As a result of our strong net revenue growth and our efficiencies in sales and marketing, Adjusted EBITDA grew 338% from $2 million-$7 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was also up 146% and reached 11.4% in this quarter, as we continue to put more emphasis on operating efficiencies and profitability. For the full year, Adjusted EBITDA was $21 million, up 77%, with an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.5%. On a GAAP basis, our net loss was $13 million, which included $11 million of non-cash and/or non-recurring items, including $3 million of stock-based compensation, $3 million of intangible assets amortization, and $3 million of change in fair value of acquisition earnouts, among others. For the full year, GAAP net loss was $60 million, a year-over-year improvement of $30 million. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:14:34Looking now at our balance sheet, at the end of this quarter, we had $34 million in cash and cash equivalents and $162 million of total debt, compared to $48 million and $155 million, respectively, at the end of September 2023. The reduction in cash reserves was primarily due to debt service and changes in working capital in line with revenue growth. We are advancing on the refinance of our term loan to increase duration and improve terms. We expect these to optimize our capital structure, adding value to our shareholders. In the meantime, we have executed an amendment with our current lenders, extending the existing loan's maturity to March 31st, 2025. During the quarter, the company raised $11.3 million in preferred stock, $10 million of which was used to repurchase Mondee common shares as part of our inaugural share buyback program. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:15:31In terms of cash flow, operating cash flow was negative $10.6 million, compared to a negative $9.9 million in Q4 of 2022. For the full year, operating cash flow was negative $24 million, compared to negative $10.6 million in 2022. This lower cash flow was primarily driven by a higher interest payment of $5.7 million, mainly due to conversion from PIK to cash interest, a change in working capital of $6.3 million, and payments related to the LBF divestiture of $7.7 million. Adjusting for these, operating cash flow would have improved by $6.3 million year-over-year. Turning now to our 2024 guidance, we are forecasting net revenues of $250 million-$255 million, representing growth of 14% versus 2023 expected net revenues, measured at the midpoint, and Adjusted EBITDA of $30 million-$35 million, representing growth of 24% versus 2023 expected Adjusted EBITDA, measured at the midpoint. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:16:38In closing, we're excited about our year-end results and the momentum in the business. Let me now turn it back to Jeff for Q&A. Jeff? Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:16:47Hey. Thanks, Jesus. Elliot, we are ready for questions now. Operator00:16:52Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press "star" followed by "one" on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press "star" followed by "two". When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. First question comes from Darren Aftahi with Roth. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:17:14Hi. This is Dillon on for Darren. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to sort of start with the increase in take rate. It's gone up quite steadily, and it seems like it's going to keep going that way. Could you sort of talk about what percentage of transactions, whether you define that as a transaction or a user, are actually taking advantage of sort of multiple products, whether that be air or hotel with other sort of fintech or ancillary services? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:17:48Yeah. I mean, maybe looking at the percentages that Jim mentioned before in terms of our revenue streams, right, you saw that right now, 20% of those revenues come from packages. Those, obviously, come with a higher take rate. And that might give you maybe an idea of I don't know if that addresses your answer, but usually, those will come with a higher percentage, and that represents around 20% of our revenues. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:18:18Got it. So do you sort of expect the trendline in gross revenue per transaction to continue down, but that's offset by more transactions and a higher take rate? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:18:29Yeah. I mean, in this case, transactions grow faster than gross booking because we saw an increase in short-haul flights. We don't see that materially increasing in 2024. So I think that any improvements in take rate will definitely come from the continued diversification of our revenue stream, but not necessarily seeing a change in terms of growth between transaction and gross bookings. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:19:02Got it. Appreciate it. If I could ask one more, on the social/AI influencer side, is there anything you can quantify on how big of a driver that's been towards the increase in transactions or just maybe even just initial visitors to some of your sites? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:19:22Yes. I mean, we mentioned before that we have added a few thousand of this New Era Distribution, which includes not only social media but also localized influencers of communities, right? We also mentioned that we are in the process of launching and developing a more exciting AI-powered platform. In the meantime, what we're doing, we are taking the feedback of these new cohorts in not only optimizing and refining the monetization model but also incorporating their needs and feedback into the enhanced version of the platform that we're working on. That's an exciting development. We'll be providing more details in the next few quarters. Dillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTH00:20:16Great. Appreciate it. I'll pass it on. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:20:19Thank you. Operator00:20:21We now turn to Nick Jones with JMP Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:20:28Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess as we think about 2024 guidance, at kind of the midpoint of net revenue, if we assume kind of flat take rate, I guess that kind of suggests no growth in gross revenue for 2024. I think there's some expectations that take rate will expand due to mix. Orestes, as you pointed out, does that maybe suggest that gross revenue might actually be down year-over-year in 2024? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:20:58No. I mean, I think to your question in terms of Take Rate, long term, we continue to see evolution of this. As we always mentioned, we expect that to be mid-teens. In the short term, we might see maybe some fluctuations. Some of these, as I said before, there is an increase in short-haul flights. Take Rate on those usually are a little bit smaller. So that's probably why, in terms of the 2024 model, you might be having that question. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:21:31So the short answer is that we're not necessarily seeing or projecting a reduction in the gross, right? I mean, we're being conservative because that's driven not only by our own growth but also by the market. And as you know, there is, in the market, a general expectation of some softening. But to Jesus's point, the take rate in the medium term is very likely to continue growing. But in the very short term, you may see some fluctuations from this dynamic that Jesus mentioned. We have our technology, for example, being used now widely within short-haul flights in Asia, right? So if you have a big growth within those components of our mix, then it doesn't necessarily mean that the take rate will follow a linear growth quarter-over-quarter. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:22:21Something else maybe I need to add to that. Also, when you compare to 2023, remember that we still had six months of our LBF business, B2C, right? Maybe on a year-over-year basis, it would be also relevant to discount that when you think about the growth of the gross bookings in 2024. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:22:41Okay. So I guess just to be clear, I guess for 2024, it sounds like the expectation is gross revenue will grow, which suggests take rate compression next year versus this year. And this is driven by flights? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:22:56Yes. I mean, we see definitely our Q4 take rate, as you saw, was even higher than we anticipated, a 9.9%. On a yearly basis of 8.7%, that's what we see, our take rate going into 2024. As I said before, the guidance that we provide in terms of revenues, when you apply that, still shows a growth on gross booking. But you also need to discount the gross bookings in 2023 coming out of our LBF business. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:23:28Yeah. I would add that compression is kind of a strong word here, right? So what I'm saying is that it will continue to grow in the medium term, but you may have a few quarters that is not 9.9%, right? So as simple as that. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:23:48Got it. Got it. And then I guess just to follow up on gross revenue per transaction, where should we expect that to kind of trough or balance out? Could there still be downward pressure through 2024 and kind of higher I guess, how do we think about the mix of transaction growth versus gross revenue per transaction as kind of the key inputs to gross revenue for 2024? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:24:18Yeah. There are two components to it, right? The first one is the reduction in the airfares in general, right, which is beyond our control. In 2023, even though the market was expecting a reduction in the airfare, for most of the year, you didn't see that dynamic, right? So depending on how the airlines supply and the demand shape, you may see a reduction in the airfares, which, like Jim explained, that would may translate into less gross volume. But from Mondee's perspective, a softened market means enhanced economics, right? So that's the first element of the equation, which is beyond our control and is more of a prediction about future supply and demand in the air industry. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:25:00The second element, which is the one that we have mentioned, is that we are seeing growth of the use of our technology in certain parts of the world, which are more short-haul flights, right? That one is a dynamic that we have identified, and it's the one for which we can give an estimate. And given the strong growth of that business, that is maybe what affects in the next few quarters to show on a per-booking basis, lower dollar amounts, right? It's not that we're making less profit. It's not that the business is fundamentally changing. It's that we have this very strong growth from short-haul flights in geographies like Asia, for example. Nick JonesManaging Director at JMP Securities00:25:45Got it. Thanks, guys. Operator00:25:49We now turn to Brett Knoblauch with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Brett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:25:56Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess maybe could you help break out for 2024 growth from inorganic means from the, I think, 5 acquisitions you did in 2023 and how much that's going to be contributing to your 2024 growth guidance? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:26:16Yeah. I mean, as we've mentioned in prior calls, usually, it's hard for us to look at that on a separate basis because we integrate platforms and bookings and alike. You're going to see, again, on our 10-K, a table that's going to provide you with a pro forma growth of our companies as if we had made the acquisitions as of January 2022. In that case, you're going to see that the growth is consistent. What you could call maybe organic growth is consistent with the prior quarter, so close to 20%. And right now, the way we think about our growth in 2024 is 100% organic. At this point, I think that thinking of growth of companies acquired some of the largest one at the beginning of 2023 does not make a lot of sense. Brett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:27:06Got it. And then on, I guess, just profitability and looking at you guys' cash position, I guess, what should we be expecting from maybe operating cash flow for this year? I know you guys don't guide to it, but that, I guess, cash balance continues to dwindle down. And what are you guys thinking there in terms of maybe reducing the interest burden? I know you guys are talking about refinancing your term loan debt and extend maturities out. But how should we be expecting maybe just the cash position of the company to perform this year? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:27:40Yeah. I think that, first of all, you need to consider in 2023, we had the divestiture of LBF, which incurred close to $8 million of extraordinary cash payments that will not be anymore. We had an increase or change in working capital of more than $6 million. When you look at our growth of close to 40%, right now, the growth is still strong but not to that level. So we don't think we'll need so much cash to support our working capital. And last but not least, you mentioned it before, right? We're working on this refinancing, and we're aiming to actually obtain better terms and better economics that will allow us to have to reduce the payment of our interest. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:28:27Yeah. And to add to that, I mean, if you are going to adjust for the interest debt service, that outcome would have been a positive number, right? And there are two ways to reduce that burden. The first one is to reduce the actual interest rate, right? And then the second one is to convert a portion of the service to PIK, which now almost the entire term loan debt service is in cash, right? So there are two levers in that regard. And then, of course, the second element of the equation is the operating cash flow increase before debt service, which if you take the $21 million EBITDA for 2023 and you project the guidance for 2024, it changes fundamentally the net effect on the positive cash flows. Brett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:29:23Perfect. Thank you. Operator00:29:26You're welcome. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad now. We now turn to Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:29:40Hey. Thanks. Guys, how would you handicap the launch of Abhi? And kind of what was the rough marketing spend on kind of promoting that during the year? And what do you think it'll be in 2024? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:29:58Yes. So we mentioned before in Q3 that when we launched, we launched the Abhi that we earmarked a fairly large amount, that we have spent the bulk of that for 2023. And we also mentioned that we move forward a figure of $4 million-$5 million into the next year, right? So that's how I would quantify it. Also bear in mind what I said before in the first question, that we are working on a new version of the AI, right? So we will be cautious because we believe that is going to be much more suitable and addressing the specific needs and feedback that we got from this New Era distribution. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:30:48So in the first few quarters, we're going to be a bit more cautious on the marketing spend there as it's much more efficient to launch than to incur enhanced marketing expenses when you have a newer and more efficient and more suitable technology launched, right? Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:31:08Got it. So Orestes, I sort of heard $4 million-$5 million probably later in 2024. Did you give a number for 2023? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:31:182023, Mike, spend was around $3 million-$4 million that was spent on the launch. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:31:27Got it. And what would you guys describe as sort of how you're incenting the travel agents today? I know in quarters past and years past, there's been some discounting and I'll call it couponing. What is sort of the strategy to push and motivate agents in 2024? Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:31:56Hey, Mike. It's Jim. I think one of the things that we're benefiting from going into 2024 is with the deployment of our AI and all of the data analytics that come off of that, we've been able to a lot more efficiently target the different segments of our distribution and target them with programs where we can better manage the, if you'll call it discounting, the incentives that are deployed. And we're getting much better results from that. So I think as we go through 2024, what you will see is a continued increase in efficiency in that marketing spend. And it's going to be almost segment by segment. Jim DullumCOO at Mondee00:32:44So rather than a broader just putting out one big program with a set of incentives or discounts against the market generally or even a particular O&D mix, you'll see us be a lot more clinical or surgical in how that's done. And the nature of the programs that we'll launch, that's not something that we necessarily disclose because clearly, that's part of competitive advantage, right, is how we work with our distribution network and how we make our most effective. But just presume that it will continue to get more efficient. Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:33:29Yeah. And just to add to that, I mean, we mentioned—sorry to interrupt you, Mike. We mentioned a few quarters ago that we're working on implementing AI not just only on the front end but on many other aspects of our business, right? This is a perfect example on how AI can improve the marketing spend. And we've seen that already in that for the last quarter, it dropped from 75%-62% of the net revenue. But how with less spend, you can have a more positive outcome. And this is precisely because of customization, right? So in the absence of technology, you give the same incentives to everybody while certain user cohorts may value a different type of incentive or may produce the business without getting the incentive, right? Orestes FintiklisExecutive Vice Chairman at Mondee00:34:17So this is a big part of how AI can influence also the elements of the business like marketing. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:34:27Got it. Hey, lastly, do you have a rough date on when you're going to file the 10-K? Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:34:34Yeah. Right now, I mean, we're closing the audit as we speak. Deadline for us is tomorrow. We're working towards that day. So far, that's our objective. Mike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland Securities00:34:47Got it. Okay. Thank you. Jesus PortilloCFO at Mondee00:34:51You're welcome. Operator00:34:53This concludes our Q&A. I'll now hand back to Jeff Houston for final remarks. Jeff HoustonHead of Investor Relations at Mondee00:34:58Hey. Thanks, Elliot. Thank you to everyone who tuned in for a fourth quarter 2023 earnings call, whether it was live on the call, the replay, or the transcript. If you do have any questions or would like to learn more about Mondee, don't hesitate to schedule a call with us. You can get more information on our IR site, which is investors.mondee.com, or send an email to us at ir@mondee.com. Thank you. Operator00:35:24Ladies and gentlemen, today's call is now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJeff HoustonHead of Investor RelationsJesus PortilloCFOJim DullumCOOOrestes FintiklisExecutive Vice ChairmanPrasad GundumogulaCEOAnalystsBrett KnoblauchManaging Director at Cantor FitzgeraldDillon HeslinResearch Associate at ROTHMike GrondahlHead of Equities/Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst at Northland SecuritiesNick JonesManaging Director at JMP SecuritiesPowered by